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Minsk decides on the further location of military facilities of the Russian Federation in the republic

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Minsk decides on the further location of military facilities of the Russian Federation in the republic

Belarus is in the process of approving the conditions for the further stay of Russian military facilities on its territory. This was reported by the press service of the Belarusian Ministry of Defense.


The military department of Belarus said that at present the issue of the conditions for the location of two Russian military facilities on the territory of the republic is being decided, Minsk will inform Moscow of the decision in a working order. At the same time, they noted that the previous agreement would be valid until June 7, 2021. However, if one of the parties wants to break the agreement, it is obliged to do this 12 months before the end of the previous one, i.e. no later than June 6, 2020.

Currently, the question of the conditions for the further stay of Russian military facilities on the territory of the Republic of Belarus is undergoing a procedure of internal state coordination (...) In essence, the decision will be made by the Russian side in the working order

- said in a statement.

Recall that on the territory of Belarus there are the 43rd communications center of the Russian Navy in Vileyka (Minsk region) and a missile warning system at the Baranovichi radio engineering center (decimeter-wave Volga radar). An intergovernmental agreement on this was concluded on January 6, 1995 for a period of 25 years and entered into force on June 7, 1996.
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  1. A.K.
    A.K. 5 June 2020 15: 23 New
    36
    Yeah Old Man walks along the path of Ukraine.
    1. letinant
      letinant 5 June 2020 15: 36 New
      18
      It didn’t work out as he wanted, he took the path of blackmail. Yeah. I wonder how it all ends.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 5 June 2020 16: 02 New
        45
        Quote: A.K.
        Yeah Old Man walks along the path of Ukraine.

        Quote: letinant
        It didn’t work out as he wanted, he took the path of blackmail. Yeah. I wonder how it all ends.

        No need to run ahead of time and defame Lukashenko and the alliance of R. Belarus with Russia against Russia.

        The previous 25-year agreement between R. Belarus and the Russian Federation ends on June 7, 2021.
        Therefore, in this case, even just a formal bureaucratic procedure for evaluating the agreement and prolonging it for the future should, in principle, be present in the government of R. Belarus. This is normal.
        And at the same time, it’s too early to talk about exactly what the government of Belarus will decide, and even more so, to create gossip and panic around him.

        Let us hope for a constructive decision by R. Belarus in relation to mutual interests with the Russian Federation - a decision to which R. Belarus has full sovereign-territorial right.
        1. letinant
          letinant 5 June 2020 17: 39 New
          22
          Therefore, in this case, even just a formal bureaucratic procedure for evaluating the agreement and prolonging it for the future should, in principle, be present in the government of R. Belarus. This is NORMAL. Let us hope for a constructive decision on the part of R. Belarus in relation to mutual interests with the Russian Federation - a decision on which R. Belarus has full sovereign-territorial right.

          I would agree with you, but. Having listened to Lukashenka’s full and extreme speech in front of the collective (I don’t remember what the company is called). His speech is not ambiguous. We are with them wholeheartedly (RF) and they don’t lower the price of gas for us, they don’t forgive debts, they don’t give loans, they don’t transfer missile technologies. Why do we need such allies? And why should their military be on the territory of Belarus?
          1. Zoomlion
            Zoomlion 5 June 2020 18: 05 New
            -12
            Is it clear or literal? You decide. Otherwise, you are trying to remove the hostility between the peoples of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus with your statements. Sofa you are our political scientist and expert on interstate relations
            1. letinant
              letinant 6 June 2020 08: 28 New
              +3
              Quote: ZoomLion
              Is it clear or literal? You decide. Otherwise, you are trying to remove the hostility between the peoples of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus with your statements. Sofa you are our political scientist and expert on interstate relations

              LITERALLY.
            2. Cer59
              Cer59 7 June 2020 14: 27 New
              -1
              matt you sofa. expect thanks from Lukashenko. and give everything to him, he will distribute it.
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 5 June 2020 18: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: letinant
            I would agree with you, but. Having listened to Lukashenka’s full and extreme speech in front of the collective (I don’t remember what the company is called). His speech is not ambiguous. We are with them wholeheartedly (RF) and they don’t lower the price of gas for us, they don’t forgive debts, they don’t give loans, they don’t transfer missile technologies. Why do we need such allies? And why should their military be on the territory of Belarus?

            Not so long ago, I also drew attention to the fact that Lukashenko was surrounded by an economist, like Alexander Yakovlev under Gorbachev, with just such ideas.
            However, I still appreciate Lukashenko on holding the Victory Parade on May 9, 2020 in R. Belarus.
            And I still hope that Lukashenko himself will not fall under American influence himself, who must understand that there is no other Russia in the world, and, according to Lukashenko, he is not going to leave the Russian market.
            But the United States and the "collective West" need Belarus only in the form of Bandera's "Ukraine-2" and nothing more.
            Therefore, R. Belarussia and the Russian Federation need to come to an agreement with each other at the negotiating table.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 5 June 2020 19: 22 New
              13
              Quote: Tatiana
              Not so long ago, I also drew attention to the fact that Lukashenko was surrounded by an economist, like Alexander Yakovlev under Gorbachev, with just such ideas.
              However, I still appreciate Lukashenko on holding the Victory Parade on May 9, 2020 in R. Belarus.

              Everything is very interesting here. When the economies of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus were simply not comparable. Everything was fine. And when, last year, the indicators were almost equal, then everyone thought that we were moving to a single ruble. And then it started. Oil is bad, gas is expensive. That is, Luka is accustomed to living fatly at the expense of the Russian taxpayer, while the Russian taxpayer has a reasonable question: "Wouldn't you go with your Wishlist to a place in Peru." We have been under sanctions for six years, we have raised the VAT, the pension will be paid right before the coffin. It is necessary for us to give this last shirt, even to a brother, but no longer poor and with the same salary?
              1. Alexga
                Alexga 5 June 2020 20: 24 New
                +3
                ... we are six years under sanctions,

                And Belarus since 2007, after the dispersal of the semblance of the Orange Revolution on Oktyabrskaya Square. And in Moscow, the American ambassador sat and sits. And you say "sanctions".
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 5 June 2020 20: 35 New
                  +9
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  And in Moscow, the American ambassador sat and sits.

                  Uh brother. Have you seen this American embassy? A little smaller than the Kremlin. It is guarded by ours with machine guns. An egg can be launched into it only from the side of Konyushevskaya, across the road. 100 meters. Or when Our cops will allow, when the Yankees especially greyhound
                  1. Alexga
                    Alexga 5 June 2020 20: 43 New
                    +5
                    It’s easier in Minsk, their embassy is through a fence from the residence of the Russian ambassador, a tiny building. And now, when they appointed an aunt-ambassador to Belarus after 12 years of void-free relations (the Embassy seems to be there, and it doesn’t exist) They are a new embassy, ​​and they are given territory for construction in the country. They were offended.
                    1. Tusv
                      Tusv 5 June 2020 20: 48 New
                      +7
                      That is, you can come to you and throw the US embassy with selected rotten eggs without problems? It's fraternal. Then we go to you drinks
                      1. Alexga
                        Alexga 5 June 2020 20: 58 New
                        +6
                        Vladimir, while there is nobody to throw, there are about 5 of them, they are watching the building that the ba has not collapsed. They tried to run the consular department, but the coronovirus interferes. But, I think, by August 9, the rest will catch up. How riots without a master's eye in the election. And now just come, this land is always glad to guests! drinks
                      2. Tusv
                        Tusv 5 June 2020 21: 08 New
                        +4
                        And now just come, this land is always glad to guests!

                        Yes, I was with you. I confirm. Was in Croatia and in Montenegro. Sometimes a question arises, perception is better than at home, what should I do there in my place? But I am a tourist, and the house is sacred and everything becomes simpler. So I will smash the American embassy according to your laws. Main Resolution drinks
                2. for
                  for 5 June 2020 23: 26 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Tusv
                  A little smaller than the Kremlin.

                  It was enough in Kuibyshev during the war (Sov. Photo).
                  Or when Our cops are allowed, when the Yankees especially greyhound

                  So you can always.
            2. KCA
              KCA 6 June 2020 07: 47 New
              +3
              When the VAT was reduced from 20 to 18%, no one paid any attention except the accountants, well, I corrected the excel plate, but how did I raise it again to 20% and howled it went up to heaven, and what, maybe the prices went up 5 times? I somehow didn’t notice
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 6 June 2020 10: 06 New
                +2
                Quote: KCA
                When the VAT was reduced from 20 to 18%, no one paid any attention except accountants

                Then, in addition to VAT, the sales tax was canceled and a bunch of left contributions and insurance were reduced and made regressive. Black bookkeeping began to whitewash gradually, therefore it turned out bash on bash
            3. letinant
              letinant 6 June 2020 08: 35 New
              +2
              Everything is very interesting here. When the economies of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus were simply not comparable. Everything was fine. And when, last year, the indicators were almost equal, then everyone thought that we were moving to a single ruble. And then it started. Oil is bad, gas is expensive. That is, Luka is accustomed to living fatly at the expense of the Russian taxpayer, while the Russian taxpayer has a reasonable question: "Wouldn't you go with your Wishlist to a place in Peru." We have been under sanctions for six years, we have raised the VAT, the pension will be paid right before the coffin. It is necessary for us to give this last shirt, even to a brother, but no longer poor and with the same salary?
              Let me add. In foreign policy, support from Belarus is 0%, it is driving sanctions (more precisely, golimnaya smuggling, on a state scale) to Russia, but we all remember Belarusian prawns or Polish-Belarusian apples and much more.
            4. 1500014781401
              1500014781401 7 June 2020 04: 15 New
              -4
              Do you call bad oil chlorinated, which still stands as a cork in the German section of the pipeline? That is, Lukashenko is to blame for the fact that Russia tried to arrange oil sabotage against Belarus in order to disable its oil refinery? Do you have any idea about chemistry? I am a chemical engineer. and I have a solid work experience at the enterprise of large chemistry. Do you even have any idea what kind of sabotage Russia has carried out against Belarus?
          3. Alexga
            Alexga 5 June 2020 20: 21 New
            +3
            together at the negotiating table, it’s necessary, in principle, to agree with each other.

            Golden words, Tatyana! Unfortunately, not everyone wants to hear them now.
          4. boris epstein
            boris epstein 6 June 2020 07: 57 New
            +1
            The first name and surname of this economist is Natalya Mikhaylovna Vitrenko, the former chairman of the Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine, mother of the second person in Naftogaz of Ukraine Yuriy Vitrenko. According to her model, the economy of Belarus has been developing for about 15 years now. Now this model is failing. That's who drives the wedge between Russia and Belarus.
        2. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 6 June 2020 00: 13 New
          +5
          Yes, short and clear - Give Pennies
          And just like that - we are with the soul, and you are pennies for content.
          Moreover, “with the soul” does not mean at all the fulfillment of allied obligations. It's about talking about “under NATO tanks”, “together in the trenches”, “about fraternal Russia” ...
          But only that.
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        4. Hagen
          Hagen 7 June 2020 15: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: letinant
          Having listened completely to the extreme speech of Lukashenko in front of the collective

          Lukashenko, a comrade is extremely emotional and suffers from populism. Therefore, in his speeches he is afraid to take responsibility for the state of the economy and will not tell the truth about economic realities. He does not take money from Russia for leasing land under 70M6 Volga, but he does not finance the work of modernizing the maintenance of forces that cover him more reliably than his entire Ministry of Defense.
          Quote: letinant
          And why should their military be on the territory of Belarus?

          Such is the agreement on the CIS air defense system. He can, of course, declare that he does not want to see our air forces on his territory, but then he will have to acquire, develop and maintain the entire air defense system on his own. And this money is much larger than the underpayment for the rental of some unfortunate 200-250 ha. And of course, he does not talk about those 9 billion dollars a year of subsidies and other assistance from the Russian Federation, which in this case he may lose.
      2. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 21: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: Tatiana
        a decision for which R. Belarus has full sovereign-territorial right.
        Tatyana, are you sure about your thesis ?!?! The fact is that it was all built by the Soviet Union, not the Republic of Belarus !!! The same as the shipyard "named after 61 Kommunar" (in Nikolaev), but you are easily ready to give everything and refuse mutual inheritance right /USSR property/, according to the territorial principle ?! . The fate of the plant in Nikolaev, according to this territorial principle, fell into the jurisdiction of Ukraine, but the latter, as a result of a coup, was under full external control (!), and the plant is not only "practically died"but ceased to be a city-forming enterprise for the local population living there, that is, the main source of income of citizens !!!. Is this not absurd ?! How do you think ?! winked No.
        And when I see phrases like, -
        Quote: Tatiana
        Do not run ahead of time ahead and defame Lukashenko and Union of Belarus with Russia against Russia.
        belay I'm starting to be afraid that MPs broke through to the VO website ?! ....
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 5 June 2020 23: 43 New
          0
          Tatyana, are you sure of your thesis?!?! The fact is that the Soviet Union was building it all, not the Republic of Belarus !!!

          It seems to me that you are too strict with Tatyana. After all, oil and gas fields in Western Siberia were also mastered not only by the inhabitants of the RSFSR. It is important to whom they now belong and to whom they work. A lot of enterprises from the number of All-Union Cooperation were closed in Belarus, not everyone was able to survive in the new conditions, but the main production, or rather, the important sectors of the economy for the state, belong to the state. The exception is Mikhail Gutseriev, this is Slavneft at the Mozyr oil refinery and new developments of potassium salt in the south of the Minsk region. There is some participation of foreign capital, these are banks and some milk. The laws of the country of residence are respected and there are no problems.
          1. Nemchinov Vl
            Nemchinov Vl 6 June 2020 00: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: AlexGa
            After all, oil and gas fields in Western Siberia were also mastered not only by the inhabitants of the RSFSR.
            I agree - the inhabitants of the USSR (!). There below, I already wrote that it’s time for the grandchildren of the glorious grandfathers to make peace. Discord in the family (read kindred), do not lead to good. It's like in Chinese wisdom about twigs made of broom, which, alone, break easier ... (!). For koment to you (+), and offset, - Alexander. hi
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 6 June 2020 12: 53 New
              -3
              Discord in the family (read Rod), do not lead to good. It's like in Chinese wisdom about twigs made of broom, which, alone, break easier ...

              Vladimir, without a doubt, we are one people (we and Belarusians) and we will live in the same state as we lived before. But now the internal policies of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus are very, very different. So, so far it turns out. Speaking where is better? It's not the same for everybody. As the joke says: Belarusians at their place in Belovezhskaya Pushcha destroyed the Soviet Union, but left a piece for themselves. Well, of course, the USSR is not here, but there have not been any special shocks over the past 29 years, at least for me.
          2. Cer59
            Cer59 7 June 2020 14: 23 New
            +1
            sorry, I don’t want to call who you are. but all international debts for the USSR were paid by Russia and it shouldn’t owe anything to anyone in the post-Soviet space. Friendship with Belarus on its Pimp terms is not really needed. The approval of the new Nuclear Strategy gives a clear answer. In the beginning, a nuclear attack on the aggressor, and then maybe tanks with armored personnel carriers, if that remains.
            1. Nemchinov Vl
              Nemchinov Vl 8 June 2020 22: 14 New
              0
              Quote: Cer59
              sorry, I don’t want to call who you are.
              correctly (!), do not. This does not color the dialogue.
              Quote: Cer59
              but all international debts for the USSR were paid by Russia
              at what cost ?! and how to pay ?! whether (!) ... just analyze and think (!). Is there anything particularly proud of ?!.... - https://youtu.be/uKO6iyfMOSQ ....
              If we carefully and impartially consider this "hypothesis" (an assumption that, surprisingly little contradicts the facts / incl. and travel director CIA at 39:25 movie/ for the first time in the history of the confrontation between the USSR (RF) and the USA), and the sudden forgiveness (exactly - FORGIVENESS (!!!) huge external debt) ... ?! Assumes / hints that it was exactly - Beli's incident (!!), through the fault of the Americans, and they paid as guilty (!)... And not Russia paid ?!... Putin, conscious "the collapse of the country he inherited", was forced to lie, - call it true (!)... He understood that he would not return the life of 118 excellent sailors, recently (a year ago) in the Mediterranean service at the Balkans, (during the Yugoslav tragedy), which had made nerves to many US admirals and caused their dismissal (!)... There was a second way (!)... Call a spade a spade (to tell the TRUTH), and under Belly’s incident, start the third world (!)... Yes, probably, in this situation, European NATO would prefer to disown the United States ?! (not a fact but very likely) (!). BUT in any case, the exchange of nuclear strikes to the maximum would destroy up to 3/4 of the population in the territory of the former USSR and the USA !!!... The outcome of such a war, as someone always took advantage of a third (!)... Therefore, I do not know if he did the right thing ?! This is very controversial .... But he once allowed me to call the truth a lie, and I think it’s not sweet to live with it (!).....
              But to talk about the fact that -
              Quote: Cer59
              All international debts for the USSR were paid by Russia and it shouldn’t owe anything to anyone in the post-Soviet space.
              , this is a clear exaggeration .... (!).. Compare the time by looking "hypothesis" (put forward in the film by reference), and .... well, do not get excited (!) ... pliz. Simply, - Russia couldn’t pay in that state ....(!).
        2. for
          for 5 June 2020 23: 47 New
          -3
          Quote: Vl Nemchinov
          that it was all built by the Soviet Union, not the Republic of Belarus

          Then they have the right to objects in our territory.
          1. Cer59
            Cer59 7 June 2020 14: 24 New
            0
            Yes, ahh, are we on their territory? how much Russian money has been invested in post-Soviet republics is ten times more than in Russia itself.
          2. Bat039
            Bat039 7 June 2020 17: 06 New
            +2
            The RSFSR was never a subsidized republic of the USSR, and it itself earned more than it ate; it was all kinds of Ukraine that barely provided for themselves by 90%, being subsidized regions of the USSR, lived off other union republics, including Russia ... So RB never fed Russia and at her own expense in Russia did not build anything ...
      3. orionvitt
        orionvitt 6 June 2020 05: 44 New
        +5
        Quote: Tatiana
        R. Belarus has full sovereign-territorial law.

        The dissolution of the USSR was illegal. So all these "newly appeared democracies" are, by and large, illegal.
      4. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 6 June 2020 08: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Tatiana
        Let's hope for a constructive solution from R. Belarus in relation to

        Old Man is very angry at Rosneft and Gazprom, will try to compensate for the lease
      5. Cer59
        Cer59 7 June 2020 14: 17 New
        -2
        Tanya understand the most common, Russia’s third leg is not needed.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 5 June 2020 17: 14 New
      -28
      Quote: letinant
      I wonder how it all ends.

      Clearly, with a referendum. "Polite people" will seize the facilities and personnel with 105% of the votes will vote "for" joining the Russian Federation.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 5 June 2020 19: 59 New
        +6
        Quote: revnagan
        Clearly by referendum.
        have every right.

        Quote: revnagan
        "Polite people" will take over facilities and personnel
        if necessary, this will be done on
        Quote: revnagan
        105%


        Quote: revnagan
        will speak in favor of joining the Russian Federation.
        be the first to raise a stack of vodka for it! drinks
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 5 June 2020 20: 26 New
          +3
          Can you tell me what your friend meant? Whose people, what objects and what is the referendum about? You probably understood him.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 5 June 2020 20: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: AlexGa
            Can you tell me what your friend meant? Whose people, what objects and what is the referendum about? You probably understood him.

            hi
            In my opinion, Alex (jealous) He was always consistent and worried about his country-Ukraine, which the Natsik brought to such a state (judging by his posts, he hated and despised them) ... And now, he accepts Ukraine as it is and tries to support ... But, early or posture will have to decide ...
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 5 June 2020 21: 07 New
              0
              Yes, they did business there. The last time was in Kiev in late September 2013. Already in my Russian squinted. So the three grandchildren live without grandparents.
              1. Nemchinov Vl
                Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 21: 59 New
                +3
                Quote: AlexGa
                So the three grandchildren live without grandparents.

                yeah, men ... grandchildren would have gathered (!), time to ...
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 5 June 2020 23: 31 New
                  +1
                  Given that a huge number of Russian-Belarusian-Ukrainian families live in OUR lands, this interstate mess is quite difficult. For many. Well, I generally am silent about the uninformed Bandera people who raised their heads. Urody, damn it!
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 5 June 2020 17: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: letinant
      I wonder how it all ends.

      It cannot end in anything good. In order for all this to end by mutual agreement, Moscow must, simply must (!) Be smarter than Minsk.
      Enough mistakes with Kiev!
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 5 June 2020 20: 31 New
        +5
        Moscow should, simply must (!) Be smarter than Minsk.

        Without a doubt, she should be smarter, she should talk with Belarusian residents, pursue her ideas. And what happened, they sent Babich an ambassador, he directly said that there are some parasites, they live for free and so on. Then he was recalled from Minsk, but his statements remained. Something like that.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 5 June 2020 21: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: AlexGa
          And what happened, they sent Babich an ambassador, he directly said that there are some parasites, they live for free and so on. Then he was recalled from Minsk, but his statements remained.

          Yes, if all this is true, then with such "diplomats" we do not need enemies either.
          Remembering Chernomyrdin and Zurabov, ambassadors to Ukraine, for some reason it seems that a certain proportion of the blame for what happened there is on their conscience.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 5 June 2020 23: 26 New
            0
            This infuriates! Everyone rushed to earn money by any means. Instead of the Russian theater coming to Minsk with tours and the Russian word, he goes to Paris, where his earnings are higher. So it turned out that no one needed the Russians in Belarus. It is good that through a referendum we managed to make the Russian language the state language, and to restore the state symbols to practically, as was the case in the BSSR. Honestly, this is the merit of Lukashenko. Now such a number would not have passed.
          2. boris epstein
            boris epstein 6 June 2020 08: 18 New
            -3
            Yes, the diplomat from Chernomyrdin is still one. But he redeemed for his money in Ukraine Idle eight mechanical plants, three out of five refineries (Severodonetsk, Kremenchug, Odessa) and provided all this with work. Without Russian oil, the Severodonetsk refinery died. Odessa breathes in the air, Kremenchug receives oil from Tatneft. But this is not enough for Ukraine and it purchases petroleum products in Belarus. This is the problem. Belarus bought and buys oil in Russia at low prices and, accordingly, sells its oil products at low prices. No one has yet canceled the competition. Assembly kits from GAZ began to flow to the factories, Russian oil went to the refineries. Yes, he took advantage of this (KapitKlizma, sir), but it was beneficial for Russia and Ukraine as well, unemployment decreased, taxes went to the treasury of both Russia and Ukraine.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 6 June 2020 09: 25 New
              0
              Quote: Boris Epstein
              . But he is ON YOUR money

              And he earned money, of course, by overwork?
              Quote: Boris Epstein
              three out of five refineries (Severodonetsk, Kremenchug, Odessa) and provided all this with work. Without Russian oil, the Severodonetsk refinery died. Odessa breathes frankly, Kremenchug receives oil from

              I don't understand what is the point in "bought out", if the Severodonetsk oil refinery is dead, the Odessa oil refinery is "on its way"?
    4. orionvitt
      orionvitt 6 June 2020 05: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: letinant
      I wonder how it all ends.

      Another Crimea. Old Man, or completely freaked out from power, or falls into senile senility.
    5. Recon
      Recon 6 June 2020 10: 34 New
      0
      Retire, that's how.
  2. An64
    An64 5 June 2020 15: 36 New
    -23
    On the way of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, which leased such objects to us. We did not rent anything from Ukraine.
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    2. boss
      boss 5 June 2020 16: 17 New
      30
      Seriously, "We didn't rent anything from Ukraine ?!"
      Where are you from?
      Not from the moon?
      And how much did you pay for the Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol?
      And for other objects in the Crimea ?!
      True, not with real money, but they paid off with gas, but nonetheless.
      And so yes, we have not rented the last 5 years, more Crimea sailed to its native harbor
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 5 June 2020 16: 47 New
        12
        In Ukraine, we also rented SPRN radars in Sevastopol and Mukachevo. But the panic is premature, the usual paper work is underway to extend the contract. However, I won’t be surprised if the rental price rises ...
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 5 June 2020 17: 19 New
          0
          [quote ... if the rental price rises ... [/ quote]
          There was no price. It was free.
          1. vargo
            vargo 5 June 2020 17: 33 New
            13
            No one does anything for free. If not money, then mutual interests, or concessions.
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 5 June 2020 17: 51 New
              +2
              There is an agreement on the network. Read.
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 5 June 2020 17: 42 New
            +6
            Quote: AlexGa
            [quote ... if the rental price goes up ...

            There was no price. It was free. [/ Quote]
            Is free? The Russian Federation for these objects of RB "lard of Baku" wrote off for the supply of gas and provided free of charge on account of this also its military ranges of the air defense forces, to which units of the air defense missile system of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus annually travel ...
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 5 June 2020 17: 53 New
              -1
              Didn’t you post agreements on objects and on grouping of troops here?
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 5 June 2020 18: 02 New
                +4
                Quote: AlexGa
                Didn’t you post agreements on objects and on grouping of troops here?

                May be. I’m not going to do this again in every news thread about our radars and US in RB ... if you aren’t banned from Google, you will find everything yourself ....
                Finally, I will say that the prolongation of the Agreements on these two objects for the Russian Federation is profitable only in one case, if a netting is made between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus (the debt of the Republic of Belarus to the Russian Federation on account of the lease of these objects), and if our our Russian Foreign Ministry must be fired ... and Kazakhstan and Armenia, and other countries "close" (but greedy) for us, will also want this ...
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 5 June 2020 18: 04 New
                  -2
                  Are we already at YOU?
          3. musketon64
            musketon64 5 June 2020 17: 44 New
            +3
            Not for free, but for gas debts.
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 5 June 2020 17: 53 New
              -1
              Where is it written?
              1. musketon64
                musketon64 5 June 2020 18: 54 New
                +3
                Is this news for you? Tady - Oh!

                The radio engineering center operates in accordance with a special intergovernmental agreement between Belarus and Russia [3] signed in Minsk on January 6, 1995. All immovable property [4] and the land plot occupied by Volga were transferred to the Russian side for use for a period of 25 years without charging all types of taxes, except for taxes related to economic activities. Belarus also does not require payment for the use of communication channels. In exchange for signing the agreement, an agreement was reached on a partial write-off of the debt of the Republic of Belarus for energy resources. The Belarusian side also receives information on the rocket and space situation for renting the node and the opportunity to use Russian ranges for combat firing of its air defense systems. "Eurasia - expert"

                RIA News
                Radar station (radar) "Baranavichy node" type "Volga" is deployed in the village of Gantsevichi, 48 km from Baranavichy.

                It is leased by Russia under a bilateral agreement of 1995 for a period of 25 years, while not a single tax is levied to the local budget. The object is part of the Missile Attack Warning System (SPRN) and closes to the so-called. "Nuclear suitcase" of the president of Russia. With the help of the Volga, ballistic missiles, space objects are detected and control over the areas of patrol of submarines of NATO countries in the North Atlantic and the Norwegian Sea is carried out. The area is over 200 hectares. The number of specialists is 2 thousand Russian military personnel and local civilian personnel (not more than 15%). Expert rental value 7-9 million

                43rd communication center Vileyka

                The zone of communication point of the Navy of Russia “Vileika” (or the radio station “Antei”) is located 10 km from the district center of the same name in the Minsk region. Opened at the beginning of 1964. The 43rd communications center in Vileyka is a super-long-range radio station providing communications with strategic nuclear submarines in submerged position.

                On January 6, 1995, an agreement was signed between the Government of the Republic of Belarus and the Government of the Russian Federation on the procedure for using and maintaining the Vileyka radio station located on the territory of the Republic of Belarus. It entered into force on May 31, 1996. Rental conditions are the same as for the Volga. Through Antey, coded signals from the Central Navy communications center are relayed mainly to submarines located in almost all oceans (feedback is also provided). The order can be given also from the “nuclear suitcase”. The area of ​​650 hectares. The facility is serviced by 350 officers and midshipmen of the Russian Navy, as well as civilian citizens of Belarus, providing paramilitary security. According to official figures, Vileyka costs Russia $ 7-10 million annually.
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 5 June 2020 19: 00 New
                  -2
                  About debts where. What is this I do not need to tell. At one time, we carried out inspection there while they had difficulties.
                  1. musketon64
                    musketon64 5 June 2020 19: 47 New
                    +4
                    About debts where. )))))

                    And what's that? --- "In exchange for signing the agreement, an agreement was reached on partial cancellation of the debt of the Republic of Belarus for energy resources." This is news for you, Belarusians.
                    About "free." Node in Baranovichi - expert lease cost 7-9 million; Vileika - according to official data, Vileika costs Russia 7-10 million dollars annually. The debt was stupidly scattered for 25 years of LEASE.
                    Plus Belarus receives information from the "Volga" and the use of Russian air defense training grounds.
                    And for that matter, Belarus is in debt to Russia, like in silk. And not just for gas. Or is it the same news for you?
                    1. Alexga
                      Alexga 5 June 2020 19: 50 New
                      0
                      I will tell you a secret. The entire personnel of these facilities on the territory of Belarus on a business trip. And the per diem is calculated in 30 American rubles. Count the expenses.
                      "Plus Belarus receives information from the Volga and the use of Russian air defense training grounds"
                      Plus, consider that the TsKP VKS of the Russian Federation receives information from the air defense forces of the Republic of Belarus in real time. This is so, for not very knowledgeable.
                      "In exchange for signing the agreement, an agreement was reached on partial cancellation of the debt of the Republic of Belarus for energy resources." - this is where it is written ???
                    2. musketon64
                      musketon64 5 June 2020 21: 20 New
                      +4
                      The entire personnel of these facilities on the territory of Belarus on a business trip. And the per diem is calculated in 30 American rubles. Consider the costs.)))))
                      Read here - Expert RENT value 7-9 million. Once again --- Debt stupidly scattered for 25 years RENT!
                      -------------------------------------------------- ----------------
                      Plus, consider that the TsKP VKS of the Russian Federation receives information from the air defense forces of Belarus in real time. This is so, for not very knowledgeable.))))))

                      Issuing such information from the air defense forces of the Republic of Belarus is very important first of all for the Republic of Belarus itself, so that the Russian Armed Forces have time to make decisions on protecting the airspace of Belarus, because your army alone is not able to do this. This is you, I hope, as a very knowledgeable person understand?
                      ------------------------------
                      this is where it is written ???)))))

                      I don’t ask you where the debts of Belarus were “written off” for those years. To be honest, I myself was in "blissful ignorance" about the terms of the lease until experts on TV, YouTube and on Internet sites explained what was what. I have no desire to search for contracts (and on what terms) especially for you. Now bargaining will start again, and most likely, on the same terms, because Lukashenka has no money to pay off debts. For me, it’s like this - they would have removed these objects and that's it. There are no problems at all with the placement of the radar. But with "Antaeus" will have to look for a special zone. Although this issue, in principle, can be solved the same. The territory of Russia is huge, and Belarus is not the navel of the Earth
                    3. Alexga
                      Alexga 5 June 2020 21: 23 New
                      -1
                      until the experts on TV, Yu-Tube, and Internet sites explained what was happening.

                      Good luck! wink
                    4. musketon64
                      musketon64 8 June 2020 15: 19 New
                      -1
                      Thank you!
                      But I think that your source about the "free" military facilities for Russia is none other than the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus. And this is not khukhry for you - muhry! laughing
                      Here (at approximately 39:45) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cE1iZxB3PY he also pompously tells the Belarusians how they built an atomic power station in Belarus (!!!!). It’s amazing! Rosatom with its technologies and its investments seems to be like nothing at all. Well, business-a-ah! belay Listen, Belarusians, this Star Ball further!
                      At 34:15 in the same video, Colonel of the Central Office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (retired), native of Belarus Vladimir Trukhan on the extension of the agreement on the lease by Russia of military facilities on the territory of the Republic of Belarus.
                      And better watch this video content in full. Good luck to you!
                  2. Cheldon
                    Cheldon 5 June 2020 23: 27 New
                    +1
                    Quote: musketone64
                    And the per diem is calculated in 30 American rubles. Consider the costs.)))))

                    regular salary, with the exception of 13% of income tax, which all foreign parts do not list.
                2. ccsr
                  ccsr 6 June 2020 11: 20 New
                  +1
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  Plus, consider that the TsKP VKS of the Russian Federation receives information from the air defense forces of the Republic of Belarus in real time. This is so, for not very knowledgeable.

                  If you are so knowledgeable, then calculate how much intelligence we drain Belarus from our satellites and embassy residences, how much they pay us for this, and why they can send Americans, knowing in advance that Putin will always protect them in the international arena.
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  "In exchange for signing the agreement, an agreement was reached on partial cancellation of the debt of the Republic of Belarus for energy resources." - this is where it is written ???

                  And this is already stipulated in government agreements, and not in the Treaty itself - such is the order.
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  And the per diem is calculated in 30 American rubles. Count the expenses.

                  It’s a penny and, moreover, our people go to their pocket, so there’s nothing wrong with that. All military sailors, leaving territorial waters, also receive currency, and no one steals it.
                3. Alexga
                  Alexga 6 June 2020 12: 40 New
                  -1
                  If you are so knowledgeable, then calculate how much intelligence we drain Belarus from our satellites and embassy residences, how much they pay us for this, and why they can send Americans, knowing in advance that Putin will always protect them in the international arena.

                  You are an adult, why should you write such a thing? I will try to answer in order. Neither you nor I know how much information you are leaking from your satellites and embassies, but I report to you as the central committee on satellites. Let's just say that some main department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus receives information from one of its satellites launched from Plesetsk and uses the channels of Chinese military satellites for FREE. The Russian side demanded payment for these services. Think of us as traitors, your right. And remind me what help your Supreme has provided since 2007, after the termination of diplomatic relations between Belarus and the USA! So, just moved away. True, 3-4 gas wars, Old Man 1,2,3,4, and then questions about Ossetia and Abkhazia. In 2014, Lukashenko responded to Ukrainian journalists about Crimea. You should not worry about your objects, at the end of last year, the Belarusian side made a statement that they both existed and will exist on the same conditions. Yes, in order to not switch to another branch, I used to live as a kid in Grimm, at 20 gv.m.sd. And he himself had the opportunity to explore the vastness of ZabVO. Therefore, all issues can be discussed calmly here and not make enemies of each other. You can easily read the opinion of a Russian from Belarus. I have the honor.
                4. ccsr
                  ccsr 6 June 2020 13: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  but on satellites I report to you as a central committee. Let's just say that some main department of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus receives information from one of its satellites launched from Plesetsk and uses the channels of Chinese military satellites for FREE.

                  Do not fool people - in the BVO since the eighties there was a "Bridge" which filmed information from intelligence satellites of the GRU General Staff, and the fact that you now have one satellite, then our VKS serve it, and it is as Belarusian as any Mongolian.
                  The Chinese, if they gave you some kind of satellite communication channel, then as a gift and pay for the Great Stone park, we don’t need to tell us tales that they are altruists and just made Lukashenko such a beautiful eye.
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  Therefore, all issues can be discussed calmly here and not make enemies from each other. You can easily read the opinion of a Russian from Belarus. I have the honor.

                  Yes, we don’t make enemies from Belarusians — our roads simply diverged, because you really want to live in a separate state, and don’t want to be part of Russia like Crimea. And why then should we part before you, when after Lukashenko you may have your own Poroshenko, and declare us enemies.
                5. Alexga
                  Alexga 6 June 2020 13: 22 New
                  -3
                  Well then. I wish you good luck on your journey.
  • An64
    An64 8 June 2020 12: 39 New
    0
    The radar stations in Mukachevo and Sevastopol were the property of Ukraine and we never rented them. Yes, they provided information to us, and we compensated (paid) for operating expenses. But our staff was never there, unlike Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.
  • Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 5 June 2020 18: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: patron
    And how much did you pay for the Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol?
    And for other objects in the Crimea ?!

    Thanks to the weak-willed bastard EBNu. He made such a gift to Ukraine for a great life in the form of Crimea (here I must say that Kravchuk initially did not really hope for this weak-willed and gratuitous transfer of the primordially - as he perfectly understood - Russian territory. But in that story, "friend Bill" played an important role, of course).
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 6 June 2020 08: 32 New
    +1
    About payment for the rent of Sevastopol. Ukraine FOUR TIMES has been caught stealing gas from transit. And this was even admitted by the then President of Ukraine Kuchma in an interview with the German magazine Stern. He said: "Russia is pumping 110 billion cubic meters of gas through us, well, we are taking 10 unauthorized ones ..." In compensation, Ukraine returned to Russia strategic bombers (six, if I'm not mistaken) Tu-160 (which have not yet had time to plunder or cut), strategic missiles from silos and set off a debt in payment for the lease of Sevastopol. I didn't pay for the fourth theft at all.
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 5 June 2020 16: 21 New
    +3
    Sevastopol - Naval Fleet Black Sea Fleet + BSF Air Base and more. But father remembers everything ...
  • Cheldon
    Cheldon 5 June 2020 16: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: An64
    On the way of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, which leased such objects to us. We did not rent anything from Ukraine.

    In Kazakhstan, our objects remained (Balkhash and Priozersk).
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 5 June 2020 17: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: An64
    On the way of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, which leased such objects to us. We did not rent anything from Ukraine.

    Not at all. in addition to military facilities of the RF CCF on the territory of Ukraine, the Russian Federation for some time rented a radar station (similar to the Republic of Belarus) Mukachevo and Sevastopol ... (two radar stations as two twin sisters ...)
    In late January, the State Duma of the Russian Federation, and after it the Federation Council, denounced the Russian-Ukrainian intergovernmental agreement "On means of missile attack warning systems (EWS) and space control." It has been operating since February 28, 1997. Doubts, or maybe wait a while, neither the deputies nor the senators have arisen. So soon two strategic objects of early warning systems in Ukraine - radar stations "Dnepr" near Mukachevo (Transcarpathia) and near Sevastopol - will stop working to ensure the sovereignty of the Russian Federation westbound. Moscow found an adequate replacement for them.

    2008 article
    https://www.vpk-news.ru/articles/3831
    The Dnepr radar of the missile attack warning system in Sevastopol until the beginning of 2009 was located together with a similar stanitsa in Mukachevo (Transcarpathia, Ukraine) where it was on alert in the interests of the Russian Federation in accordance with the Russian-Ukrainian agreement of 1997.
    Radar early warning system "Dnepr", located near Sevastopol, will be restored.
    The object will be able to record the launches of hypersonic, cruise and ballistic missiles from the waters of the Mediterranean and Black Seas.

    https://pikabu.ru/story/pod_sevastopolem_vosstanovyat_rls_dnepr_4204582
    It’s scary to imagine that now on the Mukachevo radar going on ...
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 5 June 2020 17: 29 New
      +3
      Radar early warning system "Dnepr", located near Sevastopol, will be restored.

      The condition there is such that they decided not to restore anything.
      Everything needs to be rebuilt. hi
      https://www.interfax.ru/russia/679110
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 5 June 2020 17: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: Alex777
        The condition there is such that they decided not to restore anything.
        Everything needs to be rebuilt. hi
        https://www.interfax.ru/russia/679110

        And right ...
        The construction of the Voronezh radar station in Crimea will begin shortly. According to Boev, the location of the new Voronezh-M radar has already been determined, design work is underway, after which the construction of the station itself will begin. The decision on the construction site and the start of work has already been made: the station will begin to be built on the site of the old Dnepr radar station near Sevastopol. A specific feature of the Voronezh-type stations is their high factory readiness. The turnkey construction of the station takes no more than 18-24 months, unlike stations of the old type, under construction from five to nine years.

        https://topwar.ru/164533-stroitelstvo-rls-voronezh-v-krymu-nachnetsja-v-blizhajshee-vremja.html
        So while here forum users from the Republic of Belarus are "pouring" about the "free" rent of radar and US in the Republic of Belarus, perhaps somewhere in the Russian Federation they are building a replacement for them .... according to the idea, the Russian Federation should send the Old Man Notice of not renewing and terminating ... .Agreements ...
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 7 June 2020 10: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Alex777
        Radar early warning system "Dnepr", located near Sevastopol, will be restored.

        The condition there is such that they decided not to restore anything.
        Everything needs to be rebuilt. hi
        https://www.interfax.ru/russia/679110

        Speaking of the radar itself in Baranavichy, it was originally built not at full power, because It was completed after the collapse of the Union and the Russian Federation had difficulties with its technical armament with equipment manufactured in Ukraine ....
        Due to the fact that its canvas lacks a large number of antenna modules, the station does not see at maximum range. And it is impossible to get new ones or even replace failed ones - production in Russia was never established, and we can’t even talk about deliveries from Ukraine not for well-known political reasons, but simply because the manufacturers of antenna modules for Volga stopped profile activity, or even existence, long before the Maidan 2013-2014.

        https://eurasia.expert/voennye-obekty-rossii-v-belarusi-byt-ili-ne-byt/?fbclid=IwAR3yLuA9E-uZK92KA5H5T8ecQb6JE1V_MrffShLzj5prZwyGfBc5-Wh1OA0
        Radar family "Voronezh" in general in the village of Lekhtusi, Leningrad region.
        и
        Radar SPRN "Voronezh-DM", built in the westernmost Russian region - the Kaliningrad region - at the airport Dunaevka

        see there ...
        block the space controlling the "Belarusian" radar ...
  • ccsr
    ccsr 5 June 2020 18: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: An64
    On the way of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, which leased such objects to us.

    This is a sad experience, which is why I think that our side will not strongly demand the continuation of the contract, if only because we can now create such facilities in Russia on a new elemental base and not depend on anyone.
    Quote: An64
    We did not rent anything from Ukraine.

    There was no direct lease, but as far as I remember, their systems worked together with ours at one time and we received data from them, in particular by satellite constellation.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 5 June 2020 20: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: ccsr
      Quote: An64
      On the way of Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, which leased such objects to us.

      This is a sad experience, which is why I think that our side will not strongly demand the continuation of the contract, if only because we can now create such facilities in Russia on a new elemental base and not depend on anyone.
      Quote: An64
      We did not rent anything from Ukraine.

      There was no direct lease, but as far as I remember, their systems worked together with ours at one time and we received data from them, in particular by satellite constellation.

      It is logical yes , which means true.
  • Bat039
    Bat039 7 June 2020 17: 16 New
    +4
    Even if the Russian Federation begins to rent, it is not for long. It is easier and cheaper to build new facilities on the territory of the Russian Federation than to invest a lot of money in the repair and modernization of facilities of the Soviet era, and even pay rent for them and depend on the vagaries of the Evil ...
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 June 2020 15: 39 New
    -2
    So soon the brothers will be declared brothers by all channels ...
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 5 June 2020 16: 43 New
      -5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      So soon the brothers will be declared brothers by all channels ...

      I agree. The task of Russian campradors is to embroil fraternal peoples.
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 5 June 2020 17: 25 New
        +4
        It is enough for the Belarusian leadership to simply finally begin to behave respectfully and then no one will have to quarrel.
    2. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 5 June 2020 18: 18 New
      +2
      For what? Because the contracts expire and decide how to extend them?
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 5 June 2020 15: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: A.K.
    Yeah Old Man walks along the path of Ukraine.

    Or maybe along the way of Poland, or maybe with Poland together. ...... mysterious ways.
  • Far B
    Far B 5 June 2020 15: 55 New
    +9
    Where is he walking?
    The agreement was concluded in 1995 for a period of 25 years.
    The deadlines are out, that's what they decide. Everything is in working order. And we’ll still look at the result.
    1. Raven 95
      Raven 95 5 June 2020 16: 04 New
      12
      And what is there to "decide".
      Either you are with Russia, or with the West. Well, there is no third way in Europe. Does not exist.
      But on the Western Way there is no place for Old Man himself. That's what a catch.
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 5 June 2020 16: 24 New
      +4
      With the lease of an airfield to accommodate the Su-27SM squadron, the father has already thrown us, if that. And the Volga in Baranavichy already has understudies ....
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 5 June 2020 17: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        With the lease of an airfield to accommodate the Su-27SM squadron, the father has already thrown us,

        What saved
        Squadron Su-27SM
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 5 June 2020 17: 35 New
        -1
        43rd communications center of the Russian Navy in Vileyka (Minsk region)

        This is our main facility in Belarus. And duplicating it is very difficult.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 5 June 2020 18: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Alex777
          43rd communications center of the Russian Navy in Vileyka (Minsk region)

          This is our main facility in Belarus. And duplicating it is very difficult.

          You're right. But once everything has to be started from "0" to build, the question arises: why was it not built before?
          Nevertheless, there were wise people who made separate Agreements for each of our facilities in the Republic of Belarus, one by one we can scatter, and roll over the CSS ...
          So it is more profitable for Old Man ... he will tell everyone later that when the Agreement on the radar station was extended, the Russians got nasty at him and he kicked them out of this facility, and according to the US, the Russians already had nagans, and therefore he would write off the gas debt to the RB by leasing the RF CA, but not 900 "Baku" ones, like last time, but more ... thus, Batka will become a patriot and business executive recognized by all Belarusians at the same time ...
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 5 June 2020 21: 15 New
            0
            Something I, about Lukashenko, the further the less I want to talk ... hi
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 5 June 2020 21: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              Something I, about Lukashenko, the further the less I want to talk ... hi

              Useful d ... k, as the empirialists say ...
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 7 June 2020 10: 49 New
          0
          Quote: Alex777
          43rd communications center of the Russian Navy in Vileyka (Minsk region)

          This is our main facility in Belarus. And duplicating it is very difficult.

          I agree. However, not everything is so critical for the Russian Federation on this basis of the Navy of the Russian Federation ...
          in the USSR, other ADD stations were also built for communication with submarines: Atlant in the Arkhangelsk Region (1970), Prometheus in Kyrgyzstan (1974), Zeus on the Kola Peninsula (1985), and Hercules in the Krasnodar Territory (1987). Besides The Russian Navy recently received radio-transmitting devices of the SDV range R-643 Pentecost. Each of them is placed in two ordinary sea containers, which can be easily transferred by cargo trailers, ships or aircraft to the desired areas.
          For obvious reasons, the distribution of functions and areas of responsibility between domestic ADD submarine communication stations is classified information. Nevertheless, it can be assumed that the functions of the Antei transmitter, which is not one of a kind, may well be taken over by other ADD stations, if necessary (back in 2007, it was written in the open press that “if Belarus“ asking "this object from its territory, Russia will lose an important (but not key!) link in the command of the Navy", which can be replaced by similar stations).

          https://eurasia.expert/voennye-obekty-rossii-v-belarusi-byt-ili-ne-byt/?fbclid=IwAR3yLuA9E-uZK92KA5H5T8ecQb6JE1V_MrffShLzj5prZwyGfBc5-Wh1OA0
          Radio communication device with submarines Р-643 Pentecostal


          https://topwar.ru/114997-radioperedayuschee-ustroystvo-svyazi-s-podvodnymi-lodkami-r-643-pyatidesyatnik.html
  • iouris
    iouris 5 June 2020 16: 11 New
    -6
    Quote: A.K.
    Old Man walks along the path of Ukraine.

    "Isn't it better for yourself, godfather, to turn around?" (grandfather Krylov, if anyone does not know)
    (There is an abyss ahead.) Forward ... !!
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 June 2020 16: 20 New
    0
    Quote: A.K.
    Old Man

    What kind of dad is he? Old Man does not rob his children and does not sell them.
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 5 June 2020 18: 17 New
    0
    How? Is this written in the article? Please, verbatim. For the time being, I see there only that the contracts are expiring and that a new one needs to be signed. So, where is it written about the Old Man and the path of Ukraine?
  • Sibguest
    Sibguest 5 June 2020 19: 28 New
    +2
    I agree with you (and disagree with respected Tatyana and some other comrades).
    There are only two questions:
    1. How fast will it go?
    2. And near which pit (line, trench, abyss) will stop, realizing - where he led the country?
  • demo
    demo 6 June 2020 20: 16 New
    -2
    No. This is not a "dad" walking.
    It is we - Russia, trampling on the same rake.
    This is the failure of the entire Kremlin policy.
    This is an assessment of what we wanted to call it - HPP.
  • sanya
    sanya 5 June 2020 15: 24 New
    +5
    It's time to solve the issue with Minsk
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 5 June 2020 15: 31 New
      -3
      Quote: sanya
      It's time to solve the issue with Minsk

      Drastically.
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 5 June 2020 15: 48 New
        -1
        Through the diopter ???
        1. Gennady Fomkin
          Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 16: 10 New
          -6
          Dichlorvos laughing
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 5 June 2020 15: 49 New
        -3
        Quote: Sergey39
        Quote: sanya
        It's time to solve the issue with Minsk

        Drastically.

        Like, like with Crimea?
        Oh, hardly ...
        1. Raven 95
          Raven 95 5 June 2020 16: 05 New
          +7
          Why, as with the Crimea. Just hint Old Man that you can put a party card on the table.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 June 2020 15: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: sanya
      It's time to solve the issue with Minsk

      Minsk probably will stop supplying shrimp to Russia.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 5 June 2020 15: 55 New
        +3
        Well numb. Are you Belarusian shrimp, kiwi, etc. - this is a sacred thing.
    3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 June 2020 16: 24 New
      -1
      Quote: sanya
      It's time to solve the issue with Minsk

      Our solvers with Kiev have already decided. We gave our "partners" 9/10 of our lands and our people.
      1. Say Tooth
        Say Tooth 5 June 2020 17: 00 New
        +4
        In my opinion, 9/10 or so of people gave themselves to the "partners" themselves with enthusiasm and jumping, and somehow there is no reverse movement.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 5 June 2020 23: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: Ogelui Tooth
          9/10 or so people gave themselves up to "partners" themselves with enthusiasm and jumping

          Out of 40 million people, about a hundred thousand jumped. And this is after intensive brainwashing for a quarter century.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 June 2020 15: 25 New
    +2
    Here is a new portion of blackmail from Lukashenko. And, it is clear that he is supported in this by the West, which needs to create conditions in Belarus when the Russian military presence is outlawed. Then, Maidan 2 a la ukro-in can be easily muddied, because local elites see only one thing, for which they were paid by Western intelligence agencies-the presence of Russian military facilities on the territory of Belarus.
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 5 June 2020 15: 37 New
      14
      Quote: Thrifty
      Here is a new portion of blackmail from Lukashenko

      And what is the blackmail?
      Currently, the question of the conditions for the further stay of Russian military facilities on the territory of the Republic of Belarus is undergoing a procedure of internal state coordination (...) In essence, the decision will be made by the Russian side in the working order
      So far I see not blackmail, but injection in the media
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 5 June 2020 15: 44 New
        0
        And in everything! All to him, thank God! Deliver oil and gas at cost price, credits only interest-free, non-repayable, buy finished products from him for euros and bucks, and at world prices! We watched and listened to his eternal grumbling against Russia!
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 5 June 2020 16: 17 New
          -1
          Quote: Thrifty
          And in everything!

          Wow, this is a serious argument .. And in a particular case, what do you see as blackmail?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 June 2020 15: 44 New
      -2
      Quote: Thrifty
      Then, Maidan 2 a la ukro-in can easily be muddied

      Maidan probably already muddied, waiting only for directions from the owners.
    3. GUSAR
      GUSAR 5 June 2020 16: 03 New
      +7
      Our wise leadership, without any West, copes well by itself.
    4. Second major
      Second major 5 June 2020 17: 00 New
      +2
      Our Foreign Ministry and especially the "leader of the nation" with every step shows what can be done with him, what he likes ... What does the West and Lukashenka have to do with it?
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    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 5 June 2020 15: 33 New
      +6
      Taptish 2nd headaches
      they echo with a negative echo in Russia, for all his attempts are reduced to one — to be the eternal dictator in the republic, and to continuously milk and blackmail Russia.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 June 2020 15: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Taptyzhka 2
      My dad's head hurts, it will pass with bad weather

      No, the weather seems to have nothing to do with it. When you sit in one place for a long time, something starts to hurt (each has different parts of the body).
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 5 June 2020 15: 39 New
    -7
    The question rests on money ... everything will be fine ... Russia has a lot of them ..
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  • Suslin
    Suslin 5 June 2020 15: 40 New
    +6
    In truth, Russia has only two allies — the Russian army and navy. The rest of the fellow travelers.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 5 June 2020 15: 50 New
      -4
      You are mistaken ...- oil and gas ...
      1. Gennady Fomkin
        Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 16: 12 New
        -3
        Which you cannot see as your ears laughing
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 5 June 2020 17: 33 New
          -2
          Maybe ... but I won’t eat okroshka !!!
          1. Suslin
            Suslin 5 June 2020 19: 33 New
            +2
            What is okroshka on? On kefir, mineral water or kvass? Seem everything without gas and oil.
    2. Pvi1206
      Pvi1206 5 June 2020 15: 54 New
      +1
      in order to receive something, you must give something ... otherwise, nothing ...
      1. Raven 95
        Raven 95 5 June 2020 16: 09 New
        +8
        And so as not to give anything to anyone, what should be done?
  • stalki
    stalki 5 June 2020 15: 41 New
    13
    Before writing this, you need to provide a source, I found only one and there it’s immediately clear where the legs grow from here is a piece
    According to the chairman of the Belarusian Popular Front, Grigory Kostusev, the party “will continue to put on the political agenda the issue of the inexpediency of deploying military facilities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Belarus”.
    “The BPF party considers the presence of Russian military facilities in Belarus unacceptable,” Kostusev said. “These facilities make our country a target in the event of a conflict between Russia and the West, which is especially dangerous in a situation of escalation of international tension in the region as a result of Russian aggression against a number of neighboring countries. The arguments that were used to justify the placement of these objects in Belarus in the mid-90s (they say, Russia gives a discount on energy resources for this) no longer have any weight: no military partnership stops oil and gas blackmail from Russia, does not stop many trade wars. The objects "Vileika" and "Baranovichi" are a pistol that the Russian Federation has put to the temple of Belarus. The continuation of this situation is unacceptable - the presence of Russian troops in Belarus is the biggest threat to the national security of Belarus. In the near future, the Belarusian Popular Front plans to further discuss this problem in order to attract public attention to it ”.
    “It is very important that the Belarusian people do not support the deployment of Russian troops in Belarus - this was obvious during an unsuccessful adventure with attempts to force Belarus to agree to deploy a full-fledged Russian air base on Belarusian soil. I’m sure that during the next presidential election, which will take place just at the end of the lease term for Russian military facilities, the issue of the inadmissibility of continuing their further stay in Belarus will be one of the most important, ”said the Chairman of the Belarusian Popular Front, Grigory Kostusev.

    So stuffing about anything is now in trend.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 5 June 2020 15: 51 New
      -8
      Here they are Russian media ...
      1. stalki
        stalki 5 June 2020 15: 54 New
        +3
        And what does the Russian have to do with it, it was already "picked up" by our "grandmothers," laughing
      2. codetalker
        codetalker 5 June 2020 15: 58 New
        +2
        And what about the Russian media?
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 5 June 2020 15: 59 New
          -1
          But VO is not a Russian portal ???
          1. codetalker
            codetalker 5 June 2020 16: 00 New
            0
            So it’s difficult to attribute this to the media.
            Although it seems even some kind of registration certificate is.
            1. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 5 June 2020 16: 06 New
              +1
              And where and to whom ???
              They wrote disgusting things in two days immeasurably ...
              You know, I’m not an old man of Luke, and I’ll even say more, he’s tired of everyone already ..
              But it turns out that choosing a new president is easier than sending the old president out of office.
              Although what should I tell you, you have the same situevina ...
              Sincerely.
              1. Gennady Fomkin
                Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 16: 14 New
                -5
                You know, I'm not an old man belay work well laughing
              2. codetalker
                codetalker 5 June 2020 16: 22 New
                +5
                More than about nastiness about Russia, they don’t write about anything / anyone :) Every day.
            2. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 5 June 2020 17: 13 New
              -1
              Quote: codetalker
              So it’s difficult to attribute it to the media.
              Although it seems even some kind of registration certificate is.

              This electronic media is called a "literacy" ... read the Federal Law "On the Media" before "broadcasting" here ...
              1. codetalker
                codetalker 5 June 2020 18: 12 New
                +4
                There is a formal side to the issue, but there is an objective reality. VO - an interesting resource, but more like an interest circle.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 5 June 2020 18: 15 New
                  +2
                  Quote: codetalker
                  but more looks like a hobby group.

                  "+" I will put it, but I will keep silent from sin ...sharing Your opinion...
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 June 2020 16: 13 New
      +7
      Quote: stalki
      Before writing this, you must provide a source

      These are all media perversions. Quite often there are headlines like "They spoke in Russia ...", "They said in Moscow ...", and as a result, it turns out that yes, indeed in Russia, yes, in Moscow, it was almost a bum from the Kazan station that spoke out.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 5 June 2020 16: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Piramidon
        These are all media distortions.

        Yes, in fact - ordinary news, only crookedly obliquely filed. yes Result: a host of bourgeois-whooper bombs, both Belarusian and local, is hosting another virtual coven in drooling spills. fellow
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      2. Terenin
        Terenin 5 June 2020 20: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        in Moscow, but he spoke almost homeless from the Kazan station.

        Stepan, have you been to Moscow for a long time? Kazan station is now handsome, no homeless people No.



        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 5 June 2020 21: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Terenin
          Kazan station is now handsome, no homeless people

          Yes, I haven't been to the capital for a long time. Once the area of ​​"three stations" was almost native, I traveled and flew through Moscow, and now I try to bypass this "anthill". It seems that before in the station itself the cops chased homeless people, but around the station they were like fleas on a barbosque.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 6 June 2020 18: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: Piramidon
            It seems that earlier the cops drove homeless people at the station itself, but around the station they were like fleas on a garbage.

            It was a business ... yes
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 5 June 2020 15: 45 New
    -9
    You’ll listen to some .. so Old Man must fall directly at Putin’s feet ..
    Well, everything has been clear to Putin for a long time .. but why is the local patriots so self-esteem rolls over, as if everything around Russia should only pray ..
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 5 June 2020 15: 52 New
      -2
      ... and kiss your feet ...
    2. Gennady Fomkin
      Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 16: 17 New
      +5
      And you do not kiss, try to make up your budget without Russia laughing
      1. Zoomlion
        Zoomlion 5 June 2020 18: 56 New
        -1
        My friend, do you know that Belarus, the only country in the world where the entire population, except for a negligible percentage, speaks, writes and lives in Russian
        1. Gennady Fomkin
          Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 19: 48 New
          +1
          So what ? Half of India speaks English laughing Did they become English? A.I. Suvorov generalissimo used to say. It doesn’t matter Russian or not, it is important that he thinks like Russian. laughing
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 17: 13 New
      +6
      Quote: Roman123567
      as if all around should only pray to Russia ..

      Yes, do not pray, the only question is, who needs your tractors, and the CX (not very high quality) ?!
    4. ccsr
      ccsr 5 June 2020 18: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: Roman123567
      Well, everything has been clear to Putin for a long time .. but why is the local patriots so self-esteem rolls over, as if everything around Russia should only pray ..

      No one is forcing Russia to pray, but I think that Lukashenko knows better than you that without Russian support he will fly from the presidency to the hooting of the local Maidan if the Americans and Europeans take it seriously. So he knows that it is very beneficial for him personally to keep our bases - this is a guarantee that we will be on his side in a crisis situation.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 June 2020 15: 46 New
    +1
    So they are not there for free ... but under the radar there, it seems, the power station is.
    1. Pvi1206
      Pvi1206 5 June 2020 15: 56 New
      0
      exactly ... each radar requires a lot of electricity ...
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      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 5 June 2020 18: 39 New
        0
        ... and Belarus itself uses excess electricity
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 5 June 2020 15: 47 New
    +2
    Belarus is in the process of approving the conditions for the further stay of Russian military facilities on its territory.

    A kind of subtle hint of thick circumstances. Blackmail, in short. Nude nude ...
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  • Grits
    Grits 5 June 2020 15: 51 New
    0
    Looks like Luke decided that he is immortal
    1. codetalker
      codetalker 5 June 2020 15: 59 New
      0
      Under Rostov, it may not be a free house ...
      1. Raven 95
        Raven 95 5 June 2020 16: 11 New
        +9
        Divide to one.
        Interest club.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 June 2020 15: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: Gritsa
      Looks like Luke decided that he is immortal

      It is intended.
      For there is not a single pro-Russian opposition politician in Belarus
      For some reason laughing
      1. Operator
        Operator 5 June 2020 16: 01 New
        -1
        There was no team, of course.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 5 June 2020 16: 06 New
          +2
          Remember the criminal prosecution of Sannikov.
          Of all the opposition, the one who was the best in Russia was the hardest hit. Pro-Western but without Russophobia.
          Strange, right?

          And these .. teams will wait a long time ...
          1. Operator
            Operator 5 June 2020 16: 16 New
            0
            It's not evening yet - American Spring has just begun.

            "Pro-Western without Russophobia" - what kind of animal is this? bully
          2. Alexga
            Alexga 5 June 2020 16: 20 New
            -2
            Hello, go to church! Sannikov without Russophobia ??? It’s ridiculous.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 5 June 2020 18: 03 New
              +1
              When he went to the polls, he was without Russophobia.
              Now he is in London, without hatred of Russia, they can even kick him out.
              1. Alexga
                Alexga 5 June 2020 18: 08 New
                -1
                Blessed is he who believes! Read what the Charter writes, this is his organ on the Internet.
      2. Alexga
        Alexga 5 June 2020 16: 09 New
        +2
        With similar stuffing like here, pro-Russian citizens may not remain.
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        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 5 June 2020 18: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: AlexGa
          Pro-Russian citizens may not remain.

          And were they?
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 5 June 2020 18: 06 New
            -4
            There were, were. And I'm one of them, but with your current leadership, I’m somehow out of the way.
      3. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 5 June 2020 16: 28 New
        +6
        So to be a pro-Russian political figure now in the Republic of Belarus is dangerous to say the least .... But father, like Yanyk, before him all pro-Russian movements qualitatively cleaned up ....
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  • Moxolov
    Moxolov 5 June 2020 15: 59 New
    +3
    The article is provocative, like many others in the last 3 years ..!

    They like to display such headlines in the Western media, and then it seems that nothing happened!
    The next headline of such magazines will be .. "Lukashenka wants to provide his military airfields" for the US B-52! Etc. .. While there it is refuted, but here is a bunch of explosive comments ..)))
    Think guys why such articles are coming and who benefits .. And then write angry responses .. Good luck and sober thoughts !!!! hi
    I would write such an article ..
    "Lukashenko is going to run for the Head of RUSSIA!"
    That would be interesting to read and argue !!!!!
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  • Alexga
    Alexga 5 June 2020 16: 05 New
    +1
    People, why so stupid? Read the TASS message https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/8654881?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
    ... Intergovernmental agreements on the procedure for the use and maintenance of the 43rd communications center of the Russian Navy in Vileika (Minsk region) and the missile attack warning system at the Baranovichi radio engineering center (Brest region), concluded on January 6, 1995, entered into force 7 June 1996. Given that these agreements are concluded for 25 years, their term ends on June 7, 2021. If one of the parties does not want to extend their validity period, it notifies the other party in writing about the decision taken 12 months before the end of the agreements, that is, no later than June 6, 2020 ....
    . It seems that the coronovirus was not in vain! crying
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      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 5 June 2020 16: 32 New
        -4
        The main thing is to write, but why read?
        The classic has wise words:
        - ... they are in three boxes
        and do what they want with them ..
        Yes, I forgot that one is not honored. Let them then look at Buratina ...
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  • Operator
    Operator 5 June 2020 16: 09 New
    +5
    ZGRLS "Volga" is still an old Soviet model by its design, it is high time to change it to "Voronezh" in the Kaliningrad region.

    The same is with the super-long-meter Antey radio station in Vileyki for communication with the submarine in a submerged position at a distance of up to 10 thousand km - due to the shift in the border with NATO from the Oder to the Bug, it is high time to move the radio station to the central part of Russia.

    And let Kolya's dad continue to build Litvinians at his own expense - American Spring to help him bully
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      1. Operator
        Operator 5 June 2020 16: 25 New
        -1
        Is denyushka from Omerigi still dripping or have they beat you there - isn’t he enough for his blacks? laughing
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          1. Operator
            Operator 5 June 2020 16: 30 New
            +4
            Bravo to the selfless foreign agent Bravo, refusing to honestly earned 30 pieces of silver in favor of riots from the American blacks laughing
    2. cniza
      cniza 5 June 2020 16: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Operator


      And let Kolya's dad continue to build Litvinians at his own expense - American Spring to help him bully


      And to us, NATO is almost near Moscow, there is no way to resolve this issue before it is too late
      1. Operator
        Operator 5 June 2020 16: 50 New
        +2
        I’m saying that it’s not yet evening (the American Spring was only 10 days old).

        But it’s time for Ukrainians, Litvinians and local foreign agents to prepare for the journey-destination of Canada bully
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 June 2020 16: 54 New
          -3
          Something like this is becoming very ugly, haven't we learned the lesson of Ukraine ...
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 5 June 2020 17: 59 New
        +1
        And what can this NATO do with the second nuclear power in the world - the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons by Russia has recently been published where it is noted that we can use tactical strategic weapons at our discretion to attack using conventional weapons.
        1. cniza
          cniza 5 June 2020 18: 01 New
          0
          Nothing in the global war, the ball will collapse and that’s all, but they can turn Belarus into a hostile state and set us against us.
  • Swed
    Swed 5 June 2020 16: 16 New
    +5
    A little clarification is needed here. Social services were carried out. poll on the 5 most popular Internet resources of the Republic of Belarus. This survey does not claim to be 100% accurate, since there are people who do not use the Internet, etc. But the AHL took only 4th place, and in August you need to draw at least 70 percent and believe me - it will. There will be outraged, but the "irreplaceable" made it clear to everyone that the authorities will not give up and, if necessary, will give the order to shoot to kill. All I need is an extreme one. And Russia is now on local TV channels, which represent the present day to its fullest, (to tell the truth, almost no one watches them) is represented as the main "troublemaker." That is, thanks to Russia, the main competitors of the AHL are sponsored, thereby threatening to destroy all the efforts that were spent on building a modern developed Belarus.
    I’ll say from myself that there are the same people for Lukashenko, even among young people. Since they do business, they know what to expect from the state and simply adapted.
    “The Nazis caught a Russian, a Ukrainian and a Belarusian in the war. They sentenced him to death, hanged him. Then the army arrived in time, they shot the enemy, they took the Russian out of the noose, they looked - dead. They took out the Ukrainian, also dead. how did you manage to survive?
    - At the beginning cisnula, and sweaty nichog - a breakthrough "
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 16: 27 New
    -2
    This boho-vector must be recorded in anal ...

    And on occasion, poke Lukashenko’s there,

    in these very anal ... laughing
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 16: 32 New
    -1
    Quote: AlexGa
    With similar stuffing like here, pro-Russian citizens may not remain.

    Do they live there anymore? by the efforts of the God-vector, which greatly limited the population laughing
  • cniza
    cniza 5 June 2020 16: 37 New
    0
    Belarus is in the process of approving the conditions for the further stay of Russian military facilities on its territory.


    I understand that Russia is not honey and sometimes oppresses, but it’s all solved, but the USA and the West will simply strangle and the dad will not have time to utter a peep, unless of course he takes this path, but he looks there.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 5 June 2020 16: 38 New
    -7
    The old man is doing everything right, but we ourselves push him away from us as Ukraine pushed him away. and then we shout “how can we be brothers !!”
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 5 June 2020 16: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: vavilon
      The old man is doing everything right, but we ourselves push him away from us as Ukraine pushed him away. and then we shout “how can we be brothers !!”

      Than? The lowest gas and oil prices in the world? With your own market, which accounts for 94% of Belarusian exports? Who else needs Belarusian MTZ, Belaz, sour cream and sausage?
      Who else can Lukashenko sell all this to? The French? To mexicans? Russia was and remains practically the only importer of Belarusian goods and the only donor of the Belarusian economy in the world.
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 5 June 2020 17: 45 New
        -4
        What kind of people are you! we! you! they are! , sold, bought!))))
        What kind of nonsense are you, you need to cut into your head that WE are THEY, and THEY are WE and everything that happens between Belarus and Russia is all from the filing of the Russian oligarchs who protect you, not us, but your own pocket in the first place the same thing happened Ukraine and how it ended in Ukraine, everyone knows
        All the pipes around us are all bad and we are alone good, or maybe you need to look at yourself first !? maybe this is something we are doing wrong with respect to our former union republics, and therefore it treats us like that later.
        If Belarus is bad for Russia !!? Well then, I don’t know what kind of friend our oligarchic elite needs
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 5 June 2020 17: 54 New
          +1
          If Belarus is bad for Russia !!? Well then, I don’t know what kind of friend our oligarchic elite needs

          I don’t know how the oligarchs are ..
          For me, Belarusians and Ukrainians as brothers were, so they will remain!
          But Lukashenko used to lead the country in a completely reasonable way, drawing closer to Russia everywhere. And now some muddy decisions are coming, one by one.
          But Belarusians never associated with Lukashenko and the top authorities.
          1. vavilon
            vavilon 5 June 2020 18: 00 New
            -6
            The problem is that our oligarchs protect their market from Belarusian higher-quality and cheaper goods, and this is why such persecution
            Old Man is quite an adequate person. He was completely for integration with Russia with a single economy and currency. Well, for some reason we rejected this and began the rule of Belarus
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 5 June 2020 20: 40 New
              +1
              Belarusian better and cheaper goods

              Qualitative - yes. Condensed milk and Belarusian sausage out of competition. Cheap - well, let me .. On our shelves these products are 30% more expensive than Russian ones. I even bought it from car stalls from Belarusians, tasty, high-quality, but expensive.
              1. vavilon
                vavilon 5 June 2020 23: 40 New
                +1
                And you are not from Belarus asking for a price, but from those who make a payroll 3-4 times.
                I know in Ukraine, products are cheaper than in Belarus; well, the quality is disgusting. Belarus is far ahead of even Polish products, Ukrainians who live in border zones are overstocked only in Belarus.
                So draw conclusions and do not need to push Belarus
                "Healthy food healthy society"
      2. Lieutenant Ivolgin
        Lieutenant Ivolgin 5 June 2020 19: 42 New
        -2
        The lowest gas and oil prices in the world?

        What are you talking about? We buy oil from our country at world prices, moreover, not from our country, but from British Petroleum. And do BelAZs and Russia really need them, or do we carry rocks in Zhiguli and KamAZ trucks?
        1. Bat039
          Bat039 7 June 2020 17: 46 New
          +4
          It can do any Russian trucks itself, especially since the factories in the Russian Federation are far from fully loaded and there are enough unemployed in the Russian Federation ... And let Belarus look for someone to sell its trucks to, in the west there are manufacturers, including mining dump trucks. ..A breed was transported in the USSR and on the Tatra 111, with a trailer ...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 17: 10 New
      0
      Quote: vavilon
      we push it away from ourselves as Ukraine pushed away

      and let me know HOW we pushed Ukraine away? !!!!
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 5 June 2020 17: 32 New
        -4
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and let me know HOW we pushed Ukraine away? !!!!

        Stupid, or what? Who constantly reproached with "cheap" gas, which was more expensive than in Germany? Who constantly reproached here with the theft of gas (oil, something else there), if ordinary citizens, even hypothetically, did not have such an opportunity? diagrams - "remakes", from which it followed that Russia! fed Ukraine ?! ALWAYS ?! Who called the Ukrainians traitors, as if the people swore allegiance to the Russian Federation after the collapse of the USSR? Who flirted with the Ukrainian oligarch-politicians in power, and blamed the people of Ukraine for all their sins? Who pirated the Ukrainian oil rigs in the Black Sea? Who in exchange Did he promise that the territory of Ukraine would remain intact and broke his word? And yes, indeed, and why did the Russian Federation alienate Ukraine (and all the former republics of the USSR)?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 19: 09 New
          -1
          Quote: revnagan
          Stupid, or what? Who constantly reproached "cheap" gas, which was more expensive than in Germany?

          who reproached and who ?!
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 19: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: revnagan
          Who posted fake diagrams, "remakes", from which it followed that Russia! Was feeding Ukraine ?! IS ALWAYS?!

          Who are you?
          give charts
          Quote: revnagan
          Who called Ukrainians traitors

          are they not traitors?

          Quote: revnagan
          Who in exchange for I / O promised that the territory of Ukraine would remain intact and had broken its word?

          you at least re-read not ratified memorandum or something
          Quote: revnagan
          And yes, indeed, and by what means did the Russian Federation push Ukraine away from itself (and all the former Soviet republics)?

          Are you ready to cuddle with fans of Hauptmann SD? !!!
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 7 June 2020 15: 28 New
            -3
            Who are you?
            give charts

            This is a clear remake, designed for victims of the EGE, who did not study in the Soviet school, do not know the economic geography of the USSR, but !!! Very, very patiotic (we all! Fed, yeah good ) .Not, I understand, it is so necessary in Russia, but is it necessary for everyone else, EXCEPT the Russian Federation? And on the site they like to trump this diagram as proof laughing .
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            are they not traitors?

            But did they swear eternal love to you, and you had reason to believe them? And whom did they betray? Russia? They are traitors, but of their people. Nazis and collaborators. Moreover, here on the site all the people of Ukraine are accused of betrayal .And what, after 1991, we swore allegiance to Russia, recognized ourselves as vassals and pledged to serve faithfully?
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            you at least re-read not ratified memorandum or something

            And what will it change? Will you return the stolen oil rigs and territory? Or, if they were not mentioned in the memorandum, can they be pirated seized?
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Are you ready to cuddle with fans of Hauptmann SD? !!!

            I am ready to destroy them right now. But I must see the prospects for the development of my country, its independence, and guarantees that everything will be in order with my family. In the meantime, the position of the Russian Federation on Ukraine is seen as follows: "the smoother, the smoother."
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 June 2020 16: 56 New
              -1
              your verbiage and not knowledge of the topic is tired, that's all, the discussion is over
              1. revnagan
                revnagan 8 June 2020 21: 03 New
                -2
                As I understood, you have nothing to "cover", so you hurried to "merge" in frustrated feelings good
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                discussions over
                laughing .
      2. vavilon
        vavilon 5 June 2020 17: 52 New
        -4
        Yes, they simply threw her people in the same 14th year,
        for some reason, we climbed into Syria to support the legitimate president, and in Ukraine, we waved a hand.
        But what about the brothers as we shout on all channels in this case!?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 19: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: vavilon
          and in Ukraine, we waved

          if at home in Ukraine
          Quote: vavilon
          we climbed into Syria to support the legitimate president

          we climbed into Syria not because of Assad, but out of our own interests
          about Ukraine for 14 years, I think that it was necessary to go all the way, but again I think this, based on the amount of information that I have
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  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 5 June 2020 16: 51 New
    -4
    Old Man, choose faster - either our radar is worth it, or you will buy lard in Poland. Only Russia will survive the absence of a radar station, and Belarus will not survive without imported food.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 5 June 2020 16: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: Junior Private
      and Belarus will not survive without imported food.

      Who told you that?
      1. Junior Private
        Junior Private 5 June 2020 17: 18 New
        +2
        So the birthplace of fat - Ukraine, after the break with Russia began to buy fat in Poland. It is a fact.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 5 June 2020 17: 44 New
          -3
          Quote: Junior Private
          So the birthplace of fat - Ukraine, after the break with Russia began to buy fat in Poland. It is a fact.

          I am very sorry, but you write nonsense hi
          1. Junior Private
            Junior Private 5 June 2020 17: 47 New
            +2
            As you wish. hi
          2. Suslin
            Suslin 5 June 2020 19: 58 New
            0
            Malyuta Skuratov did not write nonsense, but he guided the oprichniks well. So in vain did you come up with such a nickname.
        2. vavilon
          vavilon 5 June 2020 17: 53 New
          0
          I will survive. Are you very happy about this?!))
          1. Junior Private
            Junior Private 5 June 2020 18: 05 New
            +1
            I am incredibly happy for you, and would be even more pleased to have a constructive conversation. I will not answer the flood.
            1. vavilon
              vavilon 5 June 2020 18: 36 New
              -2
              Honestly, I did not mean to offend you with anything.
              As for Belarus and Ukraine, I have a point of view such that we ourselves are to blame for everything that happened in Ukraine and what is happening now, the persecution of Belarus
              Unfortunately, in Russia, it’s not the mind that rules but money, but our oligarchs run the money.
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 5 June 2020 16: 53 New
    -10
    They wanted to quarrel with Belarus, watered them with shit, well done fellows ...
    If there are NATO missile defense systems and cruise missiles in Belarus, then you should know this merit of every registered cheer of the "patriot" on the VO
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 17: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: strelokmira
      If there are NATO missile defense systems and cruise missiles in Belarus, then you should know this merit of every registered cheer of the "patriot" on the VO

      that is, it is necessary to endure any Lukashenko freaks ?!
      By the way, if NATO bases are in Belarus, where will Lukashenko be?
      1. strelokmira
        strelokmira 5 June 2020 17: 22 New
        -6
        that is, it is necessary to endure any Lukashenko freaks ?!

        Freaks of your oligarchs in the form of endless inflation, bear the increase in retirement and all taxes, but there is no strength ... Bad Lukashenko requires a discount on oil, we won’t give !!! Better oil and gas give $ 2,9 billion))
        By the way, if NATO bases are in Belarus, where will Lukashenko be?

        Well, who knows, this is your goal in cooperation with NATO to remove him from the presidency, but only further will not be the Russian Federation in Belarus
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 19: 18 New
          +4
          Quote: strelokmira
          Freaks of their oligarchs in the form of endless inflation, bear the increase in pension and all taxes,

          let's deal with our own ones and this is not a reason to endure the freaks of Lukas
          Quote: strelokmira
          this is your goal in cooperation with NATO to remove him from the post of president

          what smoke do you mean ?!
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 5 June 2020 20: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        By the way, if NATO bases are in Belarus, where will Lukashenko be?

        and if I can add and how will the Belarusian economy feel? Does anyone really think that if there are NATO bases there, then trade with Russia will remain in the same volume or NATO countries will open their markets for this? 50% of the foreign trade of the Republic of Belarus is Russia, and for Russia - "The share of Belarus in the foreign trade turnover of Russia in the first three months of 2020 decreased to 4,3% from 4,9% compared to the same period last year" - 1 quarter is not an indicator, but ... but when it was more - "If in 2000 we occupied 11 percent of Russian imports, then in 2019 the share fell by half - to 5,5 percent." It's all sad ...
      3. vavilon
        vavilon 5 June 2020 23: 59 New
        -4
        Why is Russian closer to Tatar than Belarus? Because there is oil, why are we closer to the Chukchi than a Ukrainian? because there is gas
        that’s the whole ideology for you of our oligarchy
        I believed that Putin would be able to unite all the former Soviet peoples around him, and everyone hoped for it.
        And he turned out to be a servant of the oligarchs, although he began beautifully
        I know for sure one thing: if the choice was for president between Lukashenko and Putin, then Lukashenko would surely win without hesitation everywhere in Belarus, that in Russia, in Ukraine, and therefore the Russian oligarchs are most afraid of unification with Belarus
        So dad could not stand for president of the union state
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 06: 59 New
          0
          Quote: vavilon
          I know for sure one thing: if the choice was for president between Lukashenko and Putin, then Lukashenko would surely win without hesitation everywhere in Belarus, that in Russia, in Ukraine, and therefore the Russian oligarchs are most afraid of unification with Belarus

          this is probably why Lukas slows down with the union state, although this was not observed with the drunk, by the way Belarusians vote with their feet while working on earnings in the Russian Federation
          1. vavilon
            vavilon 6 June 2020 08: 32 New
            -2
            My dear interlocutor, you first carefully understand what Lukashenko offers and what Putin wants and then you will understand who impedes the unification of these countries into a single state with a single currency
            Just don’t need to listen to any clippings from Lukashenko’s interview on the first channel with subsequent comments
            And at least find his full comments about the union state on YouTube
            At least for example this interview
            # Lukashenko Svetlogorsk
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 08: 43 New
              +3
              Lukashenko wants everything and free then, and it doesn’t happen what you need to give up
              1. vavilon
                vavilon 6 June 2020 09: 31 New
                -1
                A freebie in your opinion is that?
                It can be more specific.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 10: 40 New
                  +1
                  do not turn on the fool, you understand perfectly
                  the one is the one, but you want domestic prices and at the same time complete independence. it doesn’t happen
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 08: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: vavilon
              At least for example this interview
              # Lukashenko Svetlogorsk

              Sorry about NOTHING, like it or not, but the integration of Belarus and the Russian Federation is possible only with the dominant of the Russian Federation, this is due to the economy and population
              1. vavilon
                vavilon 6 June 2020 09: 29 New
                -1
                What Russian economy are you talking about? take away energy resources from natural resources and you will see our economy in what condition it is and then compare the Belarusian and Russian economies
                And in this case, I think that the Belarusian economy will outweigh the Russian
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 10: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: vavilon
                  take away energy resources natural resources and see our

                  and it’s even better to move everyone to the moon and say that you’re lying and what’s not there, do not write nonsense
                  Now imagine Russia has disappeared and what happened to the economy of Belarus?
                  Quote: vavilon
                  And in this case, I think that the Belarusian economy will outweigh the Russian

                  kindergarten, for a start, you won't be able to sell anything to anyone other than the Russian Federation, or do you think that MTZ will be able to compete with CLAAS or John Deere in Europe, or you really think that someone in Europe needs your milk, or maybe nasty quality chicken eggs

                  ps finally explain why Belarusians go to work in Russia and not we to you, because your economy is cooler
                  1. vavilon
                    vavilon 6 June 2020 11: 43 New
                    -1
                    What is the difference between Belarusians and us please tell? then why do not we buy oil in Tatarstan at world prices? Why did they fight for Chechnya to be part of the Russian Federation? Because there is oil.
                    We are fighting for Syria and no one is for Ukraine,
                    And our boss oligarchs are fattening and they’re hanging noodles for us
                    We rejected our own people, Belarus and Ukraine, in order to earn money on them.
                    here it is necessary to understand!
                    And the whole elite in Russia only manipulate our consciousness,
                    you need to look a little deeper and wider at the problem and you will understand that Lukashenko is 100% right
                    Here is not ours yours here are WE
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 11: 48 New
                      -2
                      Quote: vavilon
                      What is the difference between Belarusians and us please tell? then why do not we buy oil in Tatarstan at world prices?

                      the difference is very big and it is called the ONE state
                      Quote: vavilon
                      We fight for Syria and no one for Ukraine

                      you have such a mess in your head that it makes no sense to argue
                      Quote: vavilon
                      Here is not ours yours here are WE

                      I don’t remember when it was the Belarusian "we" recognized for example Crimea
                      1. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 June 2020 11: 59 New
                        -2
                        Well, firstly, I don’t have porridge, but you, because you don’t have any arguments to answer
                        As for the united state, it’s funny, in your opinion, the Tatar people are Russians and strangers of Belarus))
                        had oil in Belarus they would also be our single state
                        As for the Crimea, this is generally a provocative question, because we took control of only a piece that we need, and threw the rest of Ukraine. And Donbas is an example, since you need to invest money in Ukraine and get control of it, and who benefits from ours Beau monde
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 13: 01 New
                        -1
                        Quote: vavilon
                        As for the single state, it’s funny, in your opinion, the Tatar people are Russians and foreign Belarusians

                        you do not appeal to emotions, but to the law, the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation are two DIFFERENT states, Tatarstan is the subject of the Russian Federation in which the laws of the Russian Federation apply in the territory of the Republic of Belarus. The laws of the Russian Federation DO NOT APPLY
                        Quote: vavilon
                        As for the Crimea, this is generally a provocative question.

                        What is it provocative? !!
                        the fact that the Republic of Belarus did not recognize the Crimea? !!!!!
                        Quote: vavilon
                        as you need to take control of the whole Ukraine then you need to invest money in it, and who benefits from our “beau monde”

                        and in Crimea there was no need to invest money? !!!!
                        Quote: vavilon
                        Well, firstly, I don’t have porridge, but you, because you don’t have any arguments to answer

                        and after all this you say the lack of porridge in your head?
                      3. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 June 2020 13: 31 New
                        -2
                        You turn everything from a sore head to a healthy one What kind of laws do you speak of with us ??)) we are not talking about laws but common sense, but our law is one-sided as they say “this law draws where you went in and out”
                        And here Belarus which recognized Crimea, did not recognize, do not turn everything upside down our discussion
                        I’m trying to bring to you that Russia, Belarus and Ukraine are one people, and you can’t understand that this is artificial division and persecution of each other, with such success Russia can be further divided.
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 13: 38 New
                        0
                        Quote: vavilon
                        we are not talking about laws but about common sense

                        ohh how it’s all started, well, so go to common sense in Belarus without a passport is the same as the Russian Federation
                        Quote: vavilon
                        I am trying to bring to you that Russia Belarus and Ukraine are one people

                        and?!!!
                        Why didn’t they shout about it in 91?
                        or then blissed that they say we feed them all and now we will live
                        and you know, for example, that in the Republic of Kazakhstan in 91 Russians lived more than in the BSSR, why do not you tear their throats?

                        then you bliss that we do not want to unite, then yell that do not care about the laws and the union implies general laws
                        demagogue, damn it
                      5. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 June 2020 14: 22 New
                        0
                        as always from a bad mind to a healthy one))))
                        firstly: it was you who spoke about domestic laws and not about union ones,.
                        And secondly: if the Soviet Union adheres to the legal field, it must exist today.
                        Now explain to me who drew these borders of modern Russia, because we never had such borders.
                        And the republics in Soviet times were created as a territorial division but not a state entity.
                      6. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 June 2020 14: 23 New
                        0
                        Quote: vavilon
                        And the republics in Soviet times were created as a territorial division but not a state entity.

                        read the laws, to be honest, you're tired of your idea
          2. lelik613
            lelik613 6 June 2020 20: 07 New
            0
            Urgently sign up for a Papecoli loan for a gold loaf.
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 5 June 2020 18: 15 New
    +2
    Soryan, of course, but where in this article is there even a word about the quarrel between Belarus and Russia? Or about NATO missile defense and cruise missiles? Literally, please. Otherwise, you are ordinary ... a flatterer and provocateur.
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 6 June 2020 11: 49 New
    -1
    They wanted to quarrel with Belarus, watered them with shit, well done fellows ...
    If NATO missile defense systems stand in Belarus


    Hello bots!
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 5 June 2020 16: 54 New
    0
    Currently, the question of the conditions for the further stay of Russian military facilities on the territory of the Republic of Belarus is undergoing a procedure of internal state coordination ...

    Old Man is not clear what he is thinking. It is a pity that 10 million Belarusians live in captivity of his ghostly ambitions.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 5 June 2020 17: 07 New
    +1
    another blackmail?
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    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 5 June 2020 17: 28 New
      0
      Oh, how they will be. drinks
  • captain
    captain 5 June 2020 17: 31 New
    +4
    Yes, our Tsar Alexander !!! was right; In the whole world we have only 2 faithful allies - our army and navy. Everyone else, at the earliest opportunity, will gang themselves up against us
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 5 June 2020 18: 11 New
    -2
    What kind of tantrum? The term for contracts on Russian military facilities in Belarus is coming out. So they are preparing for a further extension of the contract or not renewal, price, and so on. In any case, the leadership of the countries will agree. Without you, alarmists.
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 5 June 2020 18: 14 New
    +5
    Quote: A.K.
    Yeah Old Man walks along the path of Ukraine.

    In Russia, he won’t find a place, I think.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 6 June 2020 11: 56 New
      +1
      He can’t find a place in Russia, I think


      Let him go to Qatar. Well, or to Shanghai. There he has friends - a chamber is full.
  • Medved privet
    Medved privet 5 June 2020 18: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote: A.K.
    Yeah Old Man walks along the path of Ukraine.

    Quote: letinant
    It didn’t work out as he wanted, he took the path of blackmail. Yeah. I wonder how it all ends.

    No need to run ahead of time and defame Lukashenko and the alliance of R. Belarus with Russia against Russia.

    The previous 25-year agreement between R. Belarus and the Russian Federation ends on June 7, 2021.
    Therefore, in this case, even just a formal bureaucratic procedure for evaluating the agreement and prolonging it for the future should, in principle, be present in the government of R. Belarus. This is normal.
    And at the same time, it’s too early to talk about exactly what the government of Belarus will decide, and even more so, to create gossip and panic around him.

    Let us hope for a constructive decision by R. Belarus in relation to mutual interests with the Russian Federation - a decision to which R. Belarus has full sovereign-territorial right.

    after his words "this is not our war," you really need to defame him, but father is obviously carrying him to the wrong steppe
  • Lieutenant Ivolgin
    Lieutenant Ivolgin 5 June 2020 18: 52 New
    -4
    During the Soviet era, Radio Svoboda had such a program or heading "The Fates of Siberia", where overseas and European partners clearly and methodically played off the peoples of Russia, they say, the indigenous peoples of Siberia have a different culture and look different. The partners achieved their goal, the USSR collapsed, tore apart, divided. So on this site it gives off with the same smell, the same methods are used to graze the now Slavs. The domain is Russian, but zapashooook. Or does it seem so to me alone? Notice the topic goes 97 percent about Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. Not a word about Armenia, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, etc.
    1. north 2
      north 2 5 June 2020 20: 11 New
      +1
      so who, are not the Slavs Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk, without the demand of Armenians, Azerbaijanis and Uzbeks
      signed a verdict in the Slavic Bialowieza Forest, on the destruction of the USSR. And this article is a warning that just such leaders as Poroshenko and Lukoshenko betray Russia, which is trying to revive the spirit of the Russian World in order to unite the Slavs of the former USSR, so that neither the Slavs nor the Russian world fall under the Anglo-Saxons and become their slaves. The Slavs in Ukraine were incited against Russia precisely because there was little information in the news portals about the danger to Russia and the Slavic peoples that the weak-willed but cunning egoist Slavs Yanukovych poses and how dangerous the Slavs traitor Slavs Poroshenko is. It’s good that now it’s beginning to reach, that the Slav Lukashenko is gradually becoming like those two. So if the site writes a warning truth, is it really a bleeding of the Slavs, if the Slavs try to open their eyes in time ...
      1. Lieutenant Ivolgin
        Lieutenant Ivolgin 5 June 2020 20: 16 New
        -2
        Stormy and prolonged applause turning into a standing ovation
    2. businessv
      businessv 5 June 2020 20: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Lieutenant Ivolgin
      Not a word about Armenia, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, etc.
      Why talk about them? Do they have common land borders with us? Are these Slavic countries? You, lieutenant, turned a little in the wrong direction, because you didn’t understand what was happening and who was talking about! hi
      1. Lieutenant Ivolgin
        Lieutenant Ivolgin 5 June 2020 21: 00 New
        -5
        Did you even hear what the USSR is? If there is no history to learn, what are the land boundaries? Do you even read what you are talking about? Please read the syllables and be sure to keep in front of you a card - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. I wish you success
        1. businessv
          businessv 5 June 2020 21: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Lieutenant Ivolgin
          I wish you success
          Thank you, lieutenant, and the same to you! I read fluently and understand the meaning clearly better than you, reading "by syllables"! Your post was about playing off on VO following the example of Radio Liberty - I will not cite its text, you yourself remember the "smell" that you yourself mentioned. I answered you in essence - after all, I did not write a word about the Union - the site of the VO is Russian, therefore we are writing about the Slavs - neighbors. And with your charter you shouldn't meddle in a strange monastery, you don't like the smell - goodbye!
          1. Lieutenant Ivolgin
            Lieutenant Ivolgin 5 June 2020 21: 42 New
            -5
            Are you sure that he is Russian? The domain is registered in Russia, that's all. Pyaterochka also looks like Russian stores, not like that. I do not read syllables, I have a good Soviet education. And you did not write about the Union, not a word. Right. You formatted the media in a different file system, we have different languages, different concepts. You do not know this Soyuz system, write only as they are programmed by the box. That's all.
            1. businessv
              businessv 5 June 2020 21: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: Lieutenant Ivolgin
              You do not know this Union system, write only as programmed by the box. That's all.
              It’s not up to you to judge the level of my knowledge and my education, let alone programming on a television, even from the field of senility. Do not bother to answer me anymore, please, you are not interesting to me! hi
          2. Lieutenant Ivolgin
            Lieutenant Ivolgin 5 June 2020 21: 51 New
            -5
            The site is called MILITARY REVIEW, but has nothing to do with the Ministry of Defense? There is no censorship, no secrets. For you, it was created, only by whom? If there is something in the head, it should think. People about art can write about ballet, poets about poems, artists about paintings, about the army about the military, about health about the doctors. And for army themes, there are degrees of secrecy. And not Vasya stoker writes a review about the Army
  • IGOR GORDEEV
    IGOR GORDEEV 5 June 2020 19: 11 New
    +2
    Well, if BeloRussia is also set up against Russia, then this is very bad. The competent authorities hope to keep the situation under control.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 6 June 2020 11: 48 New
      -1
      Well, if BeloRussia is also set up against Russia


      As if already. Litvin they.
  • north 2
    north 2 5 June 2020 19: 14 New
    +4
    I do not want to be a prophet or instigator, but I have already written a hundred times that if Russia does not restore its
    state borders within the borders of the European part of the USSR in 1985, then Russia will face difficult times.
    Even before Russia returned Crimea to its territory, it was clear that Lukashenko had the same
    symptoms of duplicity, as were Yanukovych. And gradually, Lukashenko revealed Poroshenko’s symptoms. Yanukovych also made Russia stay awake at night and think about what will happen to Russia and her
    Black Sea Fleet, if the USA gives Ukraine a lot of money, so that Ukraine denounces the treaties
    with Russia over the Black Sea Fleet in the Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet would have to leave the Crimea. And the US fleet would come there. So now with Lukoshenko. US and NATO will gradually and methodically begin to offer billions to Lukashenka
    gingerbread men, so that he refused to Russia in the deployment of its bases in Belarus. From the beginning it will be as if
    innocent consultations, then joint exercises with NATO, and then Belarus will fall under the United States, as the United States has put Ukraine under itself. And then it will no longer matter who will be the President after Lukashenko. It does not matter in Ukraine who the President is after Poroshenko. USA, if the victim is seized, then he will hold on to his teeth firmly until the victim has a spirit of independence. Only Russia does not need to deceive itself about the fraternal Russian peoples. These fraternal peoples are fraternal only as long as they are in place in a single Empire. No matter what. Be it the Roman Empire, be it the Red Empire.
    Now look at the situation Kaliningrad will face when Lukashenko puts Belarus under the US and NATO. Do you even imagine this corridor through NATO Ukraine, Poland, Belarus and Lithuania in the direction of Kaliningrad. This is much worse for mainland Russia, as if the United States Sixth Fleet would be in Sevastopol. So it was necessary to start rebuilding the Russian Empire the day before yesterday, it’s good that the first steps of restoration were made in Crimea yesterday, it’s alarming that these steps aren’t in Donbas today and even more worrying if these steps will be to revive the Empire tomorrow ...
    1. Lieutenant Ivolgin
      Lieutenant Ivolgin 5 June 2020 21: 27 New
      -6
      if Russia does not restore its state borders within the borders of the European part of the USSR in 1985

      What is it like? Do you think Belarusians are only sleeping and dreaming about it? Or how would there be war in Syria?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 19: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Skalendarka
    Maybe ... but I won’t eat okroshka !!!

    I'm afraid even potato is not enough.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 19: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: vavilon
    The old man is doing everything right, but we ourselves push him away from us as Ukraine pushed him away. and then we shout “how can we be brothers !!”

    Who is screaming? Me not.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 19: 57 New
    -2
    Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
    Well, if BeloRussia is also set up against Russia, then this is very bad. The competent authorities hope to keep the situation under control.

    It will be bad Belarus laughing We are a self-sufficient country, we all have only the mind to give. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 20: 00 New
    -1
    Quote: shed
    I love Russia! But there was a lot of American shit divorced in Russia. 5 a column of ki of all stripes crawled and stink like worms after the rain. one century lick at Belarus.

    What for did she give up? Especially oligarchs, the Yamal-Nenets okrug brings more income laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 20: 14 New
    +1
    There is KNOWLEDGE, but there is UNDERSTANDING. KNOWLEDGE is information that a goat is a domestic animal, a species of artiodactyls from the genus Mountain (Capra) of the bovine family. And UNDERSTANDING is the ability to conclude that, since this cattle is herbivorous, then it can not be allowed into the garden. This is how the human psyche works - we constantly confuse our knowledge with our understanding. Today I will show with relevant examples that this is a common misfortune of people, and that this is not abstract reasoning divorced from reality, but that which we encounter personally and repeatedly. What we need here and now. A student comes for an exam and neither be nor me. The professor listened, listened, then said, everything is clear with you, look here. What is it? And shows a fist. Eeee, fist, ”the student says. Fist, ”the professor sighs, puts a thumb between the middle and the ring finger, grips the fist. - And this? Eeeee, non-standard cookie, - the student answers. Kukish, ”the professor sighs. - Here it is (shows a fist) asthenic: the head is large, the shoulders and chest are narrow - heart disease and tuberculosis. But this (cookie) shows a hypersthenic: the head is small, the shoulders and chest are large - a problem with the joints, because the mass is large, obesity, myocardial infarction. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 20: 25 New
    +4
    My bad conclusion turned out to be that all these years the Belarusian detachment has kept itself at the expense of parasitism in Russia. It’s cheap to get raw materials, process them at home, sell the finished product to us, and for the cordon. Belarus is not self-sufficient, it is a transit country. Otherwise, a small partisan detachment cannot have it, not that number of people, and most importantly - not that task. The detachment must hold out until the arrival of reinforcements; it always lives on the pasture. Unfortunately, the conclusions from this conclusion are even worse. The time of the partisan detachment has passed. To survive, the Old Man spun "both ours and yours." Read his explanation of why he did not officially recognize Crimea as Russian. Everything is right there, the old man thinks about the benefits for his country. Because the West will punish with sanctions, trade in Belarus may be bent, the detachment will scatter. But we can ask from Russia - are you a brotherly people or are you not with them? Pay then the full price for resources. We support the ruble, and when we need political support, you are back to us. The first time tourists came to Minsk for three days. The hotel asked the reception how it was with the prices, the hotel was without food, and we had to eat out of the way. A girl with a pronounced mockery said:

    - You do not think that Belarus is cheap.

    No, dear, I think, how would I have enough money for you at all. By the way, a good Minsk company for tailoring quality bras has a boutique in my city, my wife only buys there. We stopped at a store at a factory in Minsk, my wife just spat, the prices are the same.

    My personal UNDERSTANDING - Belarus EVERYTHING. Time is over. A squad cannot partisan forever. The born children do not want war, but peace, the youth do not understand why this is all, if you can live under capitalism, like all the neighbors. Old Man is also a man, he wants to live, but time is running out, you need to think about a safe corner. The objective situation is also not in their favor, trade is scattered both from the West and from the East, it will be rebuilt almost from scratch, already on new routes, under new agreements. Belarus lives on a salary, it has few reserves, it will not be able to withstand downtime. Neither objectively nor subjectively, Belarus can not stand it. Her last hope for the revival of the motherland. If in Russia industrialists break the liberals and begin industrialization, Belarus itself will come to us. If in Russia the victory of the industrialists does not fail, but at least is delayed, Belarus will not have enough resources, and it runs the risk of crossing the path of Ukraine. Here is such sadness. Sorry for the many letters.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 5 June 2020 20: 54 New
      -3
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      My bad conclusion turned out to be that all these years the Belarusian detachment has kept itself at the expense of parasitism in Russia. It’s cheap to get raw materials, process them at home, sell the finished product to us, and for the cordon. Belarus is not self-sufficient, it is a transit country. Otherwise, a small partisan detachment cannot have it, not that number of people, and most importantly - not that task. The detachment must hold out until the arrival of reinforcements; it always lives on the pasture. Unfortunately, the conclusions from this conclusion are even worse. The time of the partisan detachment has passed. To survive, the Old Man spun "both ours and yours." Read his explanation of why he did not officially recognize Crimea as Russian. Everything is right there, the old man thinks about the benefits for his country. Because the West will punish with sanctions, trade in Belarus may be bent, the detachment will scatter. But we can ask from Russia - are you a brotherly people or are you not with them? Pay then the full price for resources. We support the ruble, and when we need political support, you are back to us. The first time tourists came to Minsk for three days. The hotel asked the reception how it was with the prices, the hotel was without food, and we had to eat out of the way. A girl with a pronounced mockery said:

      - You do not think that Belarus is cheap.

      No, dear, I think, how would I have enough money for you at all. By the way, a good Minsk company for tailoring quality bras has a boutique in my city, my wife only buys there. We stopped at a store at a factory in Minsk, my wife just spat, the prices are the same.

      My personal UNDERSTANDING - Belarus EVERYTHING. Time is over. A squad cannot partisan forever. The born children do not want war, but peace, the youth do not understand why this is all, if you can live under capitalism, like all the neighbors. Old Man is also a man, he wants to live, but time is running out, you need to think about a safe corner. The objective situation is also not in their favor, trade is scattered both from the West and from the East, it will be rebuilt almost from scratch, already on new routes, under new agreements. Belarus lives on a salary, it has few reserves, it will not be able to withstand downtime. Neither objectively nor subjectively, Belarus can not stand it. Her last hope for the revival of the motherland. If in Russia industrialists break the liberals and begin industrialization, Belarus itself will come to us. If in Russia the victory of the industrialists does not fail, but at least is delayed, Belarus will not have enough resources, and it runs the risk of crossing the path of Ukraine. Here is such sadness. Sorry for the many letters.

      Belarusian folk pagavorka - dumkami bagat
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 5 June 2020 21: 00 New
        -2
        Dear moderators, there are literary references, there are classical expressions, so to speak, a world heritage, and you shred the act of basurman. This is how the Slavic heritage disappears.
        An example, yes, easily, the fable of R. Borodulin: there are not a lot of rational sheep, but it’s not (but) a lot of geta, but geta (this) is so foolish fool ....
      2. businessv
        businessv 5 June 2020 21: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Skalendarka
        Belarusian folk pagavorka - dumkami bagat
        I wanted to ask everything - why do you completely copy other people's kilometer posts, and put your three words below? A copy of a couple of lines is enough to understand who you are talking to. And the saying is not only Belarusian - Slavic.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 5 June 2020 21: 42 New
          -1
          Three words are pulled out by journalists and without knowing the whole text it is hard to understand what the person wanted to convey. And Genadz Frolikov, when he breaks through, then `` hang out at the bulb ''
      3. Gennady Fomkin
        Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 21: 52 New
        0
        How did a gypsy mare sell remind? laughing
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 5 June 2020 22: 36 New
          -1
          According to Sholokhov or is there a version ???
    2. north 2
      north 2 5 June 2020 21: 48 New
      -2
      I agree with you that if the Russian economy would be both the economy of China, and Belarus completely
      it treated Russia differently now and the main thing is that Russia now could behave differently both in relation to Belarus and in relation to Ukraine. And then Russia now needs to shake with thoughts of what will happen if Belarus and Ukraine stop buying Russian gas and oil. Because the Russian economy cannot get off this gas and oil needle. But when Russia and China started in capitalism, so the conditions for Russia were much better than the conditions for China. The RFSSR left such a legacy of Russia that China could only dream of then. And it is not only
      gas pipelines or oil pipelines, and not only the entire periodic table in the bowels of Russia, which China did not have. This includes nuclear power plants, powerful hydroelectric power stations, a fishing and merchant fleet, a powerful VPM complex and thousands
      factories, from textile to machine-building and machine-building, which had to be converted to modern high technologies, as they did in China, and not plundered and destroyed, as they did with many, many in Russia. Only now Russia grabbed its head and quickly and powerfully remade its agriculture in a modern way. As a result, the products are immediately competitively exported and the population themselves are enough to feed. And if this would have been done since the first days of the start in capitalism and not only with agriculture but with the entire economy and industry, today neither Ukraine nor Belarus would have set the conditions for Russia with regard to gas or oil, because Russia would not have shaken then It would be from phantom pain, if someone scares Russia, that if Russia does not fulfill their conditions, then they will not buy Russian gas and oil. Well, do not buy, and to hell with you. And when oil and gas are read by half of the economy’s income, then you can’t say so and the conditions will be set for the tube.
  • businessv
    businessv 5 June 2020 20: 36 New
    +1
    Radar "Volga" decimeter range
    An important object not only for Russia, but also for Belarus itself. I think that they will simply extend the contract.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 5 June 2020 21: 09 New
      -2
      Yes, Luka said six months ago that these objects were and will be in Belarus. The whole skirmish here is absolutely about nothing, the people are having fun in eloquence.
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 6 June 2020 11: 43 New
        +1
        Yes, Luka said six months ago that these objects were and will be in Belarus. The whole skirmish here is absolutely about nothing, the people are having fun in eloquence.


        He generally talks a lot.
        In the case and not in the case.
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 6 June 2020 11: 51 New
      -1
      An important object not only for Russia, but also for Belarus itself.


      Just in Belarus, the leadership completely lost the coast.
      Strategically, they do not know how to think in principle.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 5 June 2020 20: 54 New
    -2
    I think they will not dare. Traded. And if they dare, they will sign a death sentence for the country.
    And there it will be clear who the Old Man is, the Old Man, or Gorbachev in the 90s.
  • Farhad
    Farhad 5 June 2020 21: 00 New
    +1
    Well, of course it’s better to lick the ass to the Chinese or the West, but to be a dominant male in the herd ....
  • mark_rod
    mark_rod 5 June 2020 21: 23 New
    -4
    And here dad! You look at our egoist - a nullifier! I would also run away from him, and any of us!
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 21: 36 New
    -2
    There is KNOWLEDGE, but there is UNDERSTANDING. KNOWLEDGE is information that a goat is a domestic animal, a species of artiodactyls from the genus Mountain (Capra) of the bovine family. And UNDERSTANDING is the ability to conclude that, since this cattle is herbivorous, then it can not be allowed into the garden. This is how the human psyche works - we constantly confuse our knowledge with our understanding. Today I will show with relevant examples that this is a common misfortune of people, and that this is not abstract reasoning divorced from reality, but that which we encounter personally and repeatedly. What we need here and now.
    Quote: vavilon
    What kind of people are you! we! you! they are! , sold, bought!))))
    What kind of nonsense are you, you need to cut into your head that WE are THEY, and THEY are WE and everything that happens between Belarus and Russia is all from the filing of the Russian oligarchs who protect you, not us, but your own pocket in the first place the same thing happened Ukraine and how it ended in Ukraine, everyone knows
    All the pipes around us are all bad and we are alone good, or maybe you need to look at yourself first !? maybe this is something we are doing wrong with respect to our former union republics, and therefore it treats us like that later.
    If Belarus is bad for Russia !!? Well then, I don’t know what kind of friend our oligarchic elite needs
    Oligar ...... what laughing Yes, because the current Russian Federation does not need some kind of Ukraine, Bialorussia laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 21: 40 New
    0
    Quote: Skalendarka
    Here they are Russian media ...

    To be honest, you’re not only media. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 21: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: vavilon
    The problem is that our oligarchs protect their market from Belarusian higher-quality and cheaper goods, and this is why such persecution
    Old Man is quite an adequate person. He was completely for integration with Russia with a single economy and currency. Well, for some reason we rejected this and began the rule of Belarus

    addict your dad laughing They will take away from the Russian market for its language and do it right,
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 5 June 2020 21: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Skalendarka
    Dear moderators, there are literary references, there are classical expressions, so to speak, a world heritage, and you shred the act of basurman. This is how the Slavic heritage disappears.
    An example, yes, easily, the fable of R. Borodulin: there are not a lot of rational sheep, but it’s not (but) a lot of geta, but geta (this) is so foolish fool ....

    Are you Slavs? laughing
  • Muddy Seeing ORACLE
    Muddy Seeing ORACLE 5 June 2020 22: 59 New
    +2
    And then there will be a way out of the EAZS ...
  • Radikal
    Radikal 5 June 2020 23: 21 New
    -4
    Quote: Terenin
    Quote: revnagan
    Clearly by referendum.
    have every right.

    Quote: revnagan
    "Polite people" will take over facilities and personnel
    if necessary, this will be done on
    Quote: revnagan
    105%


    Quote: revnagan
    will speak in favor of joining the Russian Federation.
    be the first to raise a stack of vodka for it! drinks

    And then - sawing, privatizing, sawing, and once again privatizing everything, MAZ for demolition, in order to build elite housing on this territory for construction magnates from the Russian Federation who cannot get drunk! So in your opinion, in honor of this you will "ferment" ?! sad
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 6 June 2020 11: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: A.K.
    Yeah Old Man walks along the path of Ukraine.


    And what remains for him? Age makes itself felt, more often. Grip weakened. The possibilities for maneuver have been exhausted.
    Well, he doesn’t want to sit behind other high Rublev’s fences and shake from every rustle like others.
    And if he can sell Belarus to the West, he will become the new Gorbachev-rich lecturer, holder of the Order of Judah. And in the end he will get an appointment with the monkey in Buckingham Palace))