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Experts have identified the problems of the Estonian Type-X robotic platform during battles in the city

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A few days ago, the Estonian company Milrem Robotics introduced the concept of the promising unmanned universal platform Type-X. We are talking about a heavy crawler robotic platform, which is positioned as the basis not only for infantry fighting vehicles (BMPs), but also for a missile-cannon complex, mobile radar, short-range MANPADS, vehicles for transporting goods, military engineering vehicles, and even for self-propelled mortars.


"Military Review" reported on the presentation of the development of the Estonian company in one of its May 29.

At the moment, a tracked chassis is presented in hardware, apparently, in a single copy. Representatives of Milrem Robotics believe that their development will interest potential customers, and they will begin to conclude contracts for the purchase of various types of military equipment based on Type-X.

At the same time, the network discusses not so much the photos of the chassis created by an Estonian company, but the drawings published on the manufacturer’s official website. The drawings are really interesting. They demonstrate how the Estonian company sees the future use of its unmanned platform.

The picture from the Type-X-based tracked infantry fighting vehicle shows the Middle East landscape - palm trees and ruins, against which the infantry fighting vehicle in the graph shows the sector of target destruction.


Image by Milrem Robotics


In another figure, the approach of a pair of infantry fighting vehicles to an enemy stronghold with its subsequent attack is demonstrated.


Image by Milrem Robotics


Other graphic works show the integrated use of Type-X-based unmanned vehicles, including a self-propelled mortar for use in battle both in open areas (“head-to-head”) and in urban areas. At the same time, the figure shows the adjustment of the actions of such a robotic unit using an unmanned aerial vehicle, as well as infantry support.



Images from Milrem Robotics


Experts note that the use of unmanned armored vehicles for fighting in the city has great prospects. However, there are important problems. If the enemy uses a radio-electronic suppression system against the same UAV or simply drops a drone, then all this Estonian robotic armada will be left without its electronic eyes.

Accordingly, when trying to enter city blocks, unmanned vehicles become excellent targets, for example, for grenade launchers or ATGM calculations. There remains the option not to enter the city, but to provide remote fire support to the infantry units that entered there. But without adjusting for such complex actions, the infantry may well run into friendly fire. Moreover, no one guarantees the mentioned “armada” that it will not turn into a target for anti-tank systems, being on the territory adjacent to the urban development.

In any case, the development is interesting, but so far its main potential remains "in pencil", it is obviously premature to talk about high potential in the arms market.
Photos used:
Facebook / Milrem Robotics
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  1. fa2998
    fa2998 4 June 2020 19: 59
    +2
    For more than a century, different countries have been building tanks. Finally it came to Estonia. laughing
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 03
      -21
      maybe the average salary of 1.5k euros will reach you as in Estonia :)
      1. poquello
        poquello 4 June 2020 20: 14
        +2
        Quote: Voletsky
        maybe the average salary of 1.5k euros will reach you as in Estonia :)

        do not bite the brain, read the archives, their purchasing power is less than ours, hee hee
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 16
          -10
          Yes, I judge by the general atmosphere, they have a salary of 650 euros and pensioners + -250 eureka on average, just in Russia there are salaries of 15k rubles, and in some places less.

          Finns and Estonians may sound funny in Russian, but they are very smart guys, and their girls are beautiful :)
          1. poquello
            poquello 4 June 2020 20: 18
            +6
            Quote: Voletsky
            Yes, I judge by the general atmosphere, they have a salary of 650 euros and pensioners + -250 eureka on average, just in Russia there are salaries of 15k rubles, but in some places less

            it must be judged by the fact that the salary remains
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 18
              -9
              and a lot of salary of 15k rubles will remain? :)

              There are 500+ salaries in the Estonian outback, and the household expenses there are quite small
              1. poquello
                poquello 4 June 2020 20: 22
                -2
                Quote: Voletsky
                and a lot of salary of 15k rubles will remain? :)

                There are 500+ salaries in the Estonian outback, and the household expenses there are quite small

                Quote: poquello
                do not bite the brain, read the archives, their purchasing power is less than ours, hee hee
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 24
                  -9
                  Dear you are normal ?! I am from Latvia with Rodney in Orel ... And I have to go to Estonia, as you are for the Moscow Ring Road; and in the Russian Federation I only go to Chumadan and go off. What are you telling me about ?!
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 4 June 2020 20: 39
                    +5
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    Dear you are normal ?! I am from Latvia with Rodney in Orel ... And I have to go to Estonia, as you are for the Moscow Ring Road; and in the Russian Federation I only go to Chumadan and go off. What are you telling me about ?!

                    it’s you telling me about 15k rubles, I don’t know this, but I heard that dill go to the Baltic extinction, probably it’s better there than in dill))))))),
                    and yes ... purchasing power is not
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    Yes, I judge by the general atmosphere, they have a salary of 650 euros and for pensioners + -250 Eureks on average,

                    and the average balance of the stay, then what can I spend on food, then what else
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                  2. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 4 June 2020 20: 43
                    +9
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    Finns and Estonians may sound funny in Russian, but they are very smart guys, and their girls are beautiful :)

                    Do not interfere with Finns and Estonians. The former are building their happy present, the latter are demanding that someone build it
                    1. Voltsky
                      Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 46
                      -9
                      Quote: Shurik70
                      Do not interfere with Finns and Estonians. The former are building their happy present, the latter are demanding that someone build it

                      here you are right, and in what place is that passenger right where does he tell me about Great Russia, when you yourself are better at a household level only in certain regions, and in most cases many times worse than ours ?!
                      1. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 4 June 2020 20: 50
                        +8
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        in what place is that passenger right where does he tell me about Great Russia, when at your household level it’s better only in certain regions, and in most cases it is much worse than ours ?!

                        I can judge Estonians only by their political statements. So I can’t compare where it’s better to live.
                        But that in Russia the gap between rich and poor deepens, it’s true. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. But, it seems, in the USA and Europe as well ...
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                      3. orionvitt
                        orionvitt 4 June 2020 23: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        about what needs to be dumped in Riga

                        So if begging why not dump. And they beg hard. Already, Estonia has decided to become a "great tank power". But this is already from the section of humor. laughing
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                      5. orionvitt
                        orionvitt 4 June 2020 23: 16
                        -1
                        If a girl is a pervert, it gives her pleasure, and does not understand another language, then she gets hers. The face is sure to be stuffed. The question is different, normal men, it does not excite. And about the fusion. You have a very high opinion of yourself., For the whole tribaltica, a couple of battalions of "polite people" are enough for the eyes. And then, someone very much played in "independence".
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                      8. orionvitt
                        orionvitt 5 June 2020 12: 52
                        0
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        boy, yes yes infantile stupid boy

                        Of course, this "infantile boy" perfectly remembers how, during the union, the Baltic states were literally licked. However, they proved to be ungrateful creatures. Which they have always been. What the Baltic states have always needed and what they have always looked for is the boot of a strong master. The mentality however. All the talk about the "striving of the Baltic peoples for" freedom "is a lie from beginning to end. As they say, not in the horse's forage.
                      9. Ilya Nikitich
                        Ilya Nikitich 5 June 2020 17: 39
                        0
                        The occupation must be earned. Do you deserve?
                      10. Ilya Nikitich
                        Ilya Nikitich 5 June 2020 17: 37
                        0
                        Do we need such an abomination to love us? Your love is fraught sideways.
                        Guys love the EU.
                      11. Hagen
                        Hagen 5 June 2020 06: 13
                        +3
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        here in Latvia many people judge the Russian Federation by the statements of Zhirinovsky

                        But I judge Latvia by parades of SS veterans and run the population across Europe. Whatever you write here, the realities cannot be changed. In 20-30 years, your state will disappear physically ....
                  3. ApJlekuHo
                    ApJlekuHo 5 June 2020 01: 54
                    -1
                    Dear you are normal ?! I am from Latvia with Rodney in Orel ... And I have to go to Estonia, as you are for the Moscow Ring Road; and in the Russian Federation I only go to Chumadan and go off. What are you telling me about ?!

                    I have been living in Tartu for 30 years, half of the young growth from Estonia over the past 20 years has fallen from Estonia, just like from your Latvia. Where do you live in Latvia?
              2. DeKo
                DeKo 4 June 2020 22: 28
                +2
                And about the outback, too, lying. Communal is more expensive there
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 4 June 2020 22: 35
                  -8
                  Lord, do you want to argue about where people live on average worse? :) Are you out of your mind, the situation in the Baltics is not much better, good ?! no
                  Why is this all ?! I can name my salary, and you mine :) I will most likely have better, but is it like that for everyone ?! no, definitely not; and whether people live in the Russian Federation worse than you, definitely yes.
                  The thing is that imbecile, who certainly does not know any language other than Russian Estonians called stupid, no, this is an accent, and a joke for.

                  and I would like for this Nazi freak to be banned
              3. DeKo
                DeKo 4 June 2020 22: 35
                +5
                You are a provocateur, Volozhsky.
              4. ApJlekuHo
                ApJlekuHo 5 June 2020 01: 50
                +1
                There are 500+ salaries in the Estonian outback, and the household expenses there are quite small

                Minimum salary 584 €. € 3,65 per hour. For which half the population is working, are you from Estonia?
          2. DeKo
            DeKo 4 June 2020 20: 29
            +5
            A brother with his family pays 400 euros per month for a three-ruble note in a residential area (property). Utilities and stuff. 50 euros pays for the parking space. Fuel, insurance, food, three children and a cat. 1450 euros is not enough. So don’t lie, citizen. A shopping basket for his family of 5 people, 200 euros per week. So do not lie
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 32
              -7
              Quote: DeKo
              pays 400 euros per month.

              I'm 350 in winter, heating is expensive ... in summer ~ 200
              I have a shopping basket of 100 euros per week, and I'm alone .... Why is this all ?!
              1. DeKo
                DeKo 4 June 2020 22: 31
                +3
                Moreover, it is not necessary to lie about a good life in Estonia and a bad one in Russia. And it is known that in Latvia prices are 40% less than in Estonia. Therefore, ests and dates are wound to you.
          3. DeKo
            DeKo 4 June 2020 20: 30
            +9
            And his mother-in-law, worked all her life in the mercury workshop — 309 euros receives a pension. Of these, 200 per apartment
          4. TAMBU
            TAMBU 4 June 2020 20: 42
            +3
            Estonia: roads are shit, trying to squeeze money wherever possible, some of the poorest in the EU ...
            I haven’t been to Finland, but I think it’s better by an order of magnitude ... except for Romania, it’s much better in the EU than by Estonia ...
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      3. ApJlekuHo
        ApJlekuHo 5 June 2020 01: 48
        -1
        maybe the average salary of 1.5k euros will reach you as in Estonia :)

        In Tallinn, in the region of 1k-1.5k, and in the country on average no more than 800-900 euros, there is no need to scam here.
      4. halpat
        halpat 5 June 2020 02: 08
        +8
        Funny.
        A promising development is being discussed, and Mr. about salary from a place in a quarry, about a free and rich Baltic life, inserting phrases such as "pack", as if he himself was his coy ... under the eagle, but was lucky enough to enjoy Latvian prosperity .. .

        Work thinner, mister / comrade / master.
        :)
        And so amused, no doubt.
      5. wde
        wde 6 June 2020 10: 44
        0
        Management receives 2100 euros; a worker; 900 euros; an average of 1500; and you can not argue, I live here.
    2. iouris
      iouris 4 June 2020 23: 32
      0
      At whose expense the development: EU grants or ...? Or maybe they found some German "wunder-waffe" on the farm?
  2. svp67
    svp67 4 June 2020 20: 01
    +2
    I don’t know, it looks beautifully purely outwardly, but you start looking at it right away and have a lot of questions, cameras on the fenders, where dirt and dust are flying in the first place, especially since the wing flaps are short and so on and so on.
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 09
      -10
      rather, the bucket on the module will be the main review, and these cameras judging by the location have a stereoscopic effect. But this is not certain, Estonians have excellent programmers, and specialists in communication protocols; I'm not sure about the engineers :)
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 4 June 2020 21: 52
      +3
      In any case, when choosing what to send to the city for the cover of infantry - a tank with three guaranteed 200m or a crewless car, intellectually and humanly, you need to send the second.
  3. Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 02
    -8
    Experts have identified the problems of the Estonian Type-X robotic platform during battles in the city

    I am not an expert, but I note that the main problem in financing the project
  4. poquello
    poquello 4 June 2020 20: 07
    -1
    In any case, the development is interesting, but so far its main potential remains "in pencil", it is obviously premature to talk about high potential in the arms market.

    But where is the development then? tractor with diamonds?
  5. A009
    A009 4 June 2020 20: 19
    +2
    Do you plan to apply in the second world war?
  6. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 4 June 2020 20: 32
    +1
    ... If the enemy uses an electronic suppression system against the same UAV or simply knocks down a drone, then this entire Estonian robotic "armada" will be left without its "electronic eyes".
    If the whole "armada" uses one drone to control, then yes. But there can be several redundant communication channels simultaneously in a single complex - a repeater drone, a VHF channel directly from the operator, a satellite channel, an optical-electronic channel. Then control of a group of robotic platforms will not be easy to drown out. Adjustment is also not so simple. When the complex is included in a single ACS by the battlefield, target designation will be duplicated from different sources.
  7. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 4 June 2020 20: 33
    -1
    Images. Let's see what "gooryayayayayayachie esttoooooonskie paaaaarni" can really do. But I am more angry that now everywhere "ours" are blue (drunkard), and enemies are "red" (USSR)
  8. fa2998
    fa2998 4 June 2020 20: 35
    +1
    Quote: Voletsky
    maybe the average salary of 1.5k euros will reach you as in Estonia :)

    Does the European Union still pay for "aid", or are you already "earning" yourself?
  9. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 4 June 2020 20: 41
    -1
    Representatives of Milrem Robotics believe that their development will interest potential customers, and those will take conclude contracts for the purchase of various types of military equipment based on Type-X.

    They ... they will jump! ©
  10. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 June 2020 21: 28
    +1
    I doubt that Estonia will have a demand for its development, even if they translate it into metal.
    Who is it good to buy?
    Germans? French people? Americans? Russians? ...
    No, they will not, they all have their own production that needs to be supported and to produce competitors no one needs. If only in third world countries, but it’s also difficult to get there.
  11. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 June 2020 21: 31
    -1
    In general, I did not understand, in the last drawings they have a drone, what's on the wire? what Even the shadow is drawn. lol
  12. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 June 2020 21: 35
    +1
    In general, there are still manufactures in Estonia where they could mass-assemble these devices?
    Iron, hodovka, engines, electronics?
    Here I have doubts.
    1. wde
      wde 6 June 2020 10: 49
      0
      There is no mass production, on order and by piece. I know that the shaves took one to watch.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 4 June 2020 21: 51
    +3
    Countries with much greater financial resources and a well-developed engineering school cannot create a tank, but bam and Estonia are a tank power? This has its own specifics, countries that produce tanks can be counted on the fingers
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 5 June 2020 12: 28
      0
      They developed not a tank, but an unmanned remotely controlled
      platform for armored vehicles.
      They do not impose weapons on her. Someone knows how to produce,
      he will mount it.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 5 June 2020 12: 43
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        They developed not a tank, but an unmanned remotely controlled
        platform for armored vehicles.

        Just the drawings from the Milrem Robotics website clearly determine the purpose of this platform. And to produce a separate base chassis separately, without calculating the loads of future weapons, is generally meaningless
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 5 June 2020 13: 37
          +1
          Everyone is doing it now. Modular design.
          There are dozens of military vehicles in different countries based on Finnish Patria.
          Estonians repeated this approach.
  14. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 June 2020 22: 10
    +1
    Well, super, Estonia only needs to build its own school of armored vehicles, but this is such a trifle, especially since this country is in no hurry)))
  15. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 4 June 2020 22: 36
    +2
    The limited budget of the hottest Estonian guys was enough for the comic book about the tanchiki. Now they will knock out money to create a cartoon, citing a threat from Russia.
  16. DeKo
    DeKo 4 June 2020 22: 37
    -1
    Yes Yes. In Ukraine, too, every day, new know-how. Shoot down the escort drone and that's it. These boxes just get up
  17. BLADFROST
    BLADFROST 4 June 2020 23: 15
    0
    Why do they need it?
  18. Chess knight
    Chess knight 5 June 2020 00: 22
    0
    The expert said that against UAVs you can use electronic warfare! No comments))
    1. Momotomba
      Momotomba 5 June 2020 06: 55
      0
      And why against UAVs can not use electronic warfare? If not difficult, please explain
  19. u123uuu
    u123uuu 5 June 2020 02: 46
    +1
    The toilet is self-propelled with Chinese ice bulbs.
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 June 2020 06: 25
    0
    Experts have identified the problems of the Estonian Type-X robotic platform during battles in the city
    Finally, the eeeeeessssstorm brakes just starts to dissolve! laughing tongue wassat
  21. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 June 2020 07: 17
    +1
    Classic idiots. They represent the war at the level of the 40s.