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CEN Dome: Russia has created a satellite constellation to warn of missile attacks

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The Russian military deployed the basic space segment of a missile attack warning system in Earth’s orbit. It includes four satellites "Tundra".


About this news agency TASS said a source related to the military-industrial complex.

The Russian Taiga spacecraft are combined into a single space system (CEN) called the Dome. Their task is to monitor the territory of the United States in the event of the launch of ballistic missiles from it across Russia or its allies. Satellites rotate in orbit along a highly elliptical trajectory, moving as far as possible from the planet’s surface by more than 35 thousand kilometers.

The launch of the Tundra satellite into low Earth orbit, which took place on May 22 from the Plesetsk cosmodrome, brought the CEN to a minimum of four personnel, allowing the system to perform its functions. Now Russia is able to track any ballistic launch or launch of space rockets from American territory.

This happens with the help of the latest infrared sensors installed on satellites. They can accurately determine the moment of launch of a rocket against the background of the earth's surface. These instruments also track the flight path and automatically calculate the estimated place of impact of missile warheads.
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  1. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 4 June 2020 12: 10 New
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    News plus! good
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 4 June 2020 12: 37 New
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      I'm in shock! That is, it will not “create”, it is not “planned to be created”, it has not “allocated funds for”, it has not been “discussed at a briefing” and it is not “Russia can create”, but Russia has created ?! Are you there, that you’ve gotten too full of such headlines to print, you haven’t gotten such a heading, are you rocking the boat?
      1. Civil
        Civil 4 June 2020 12: 42 New
        +8
        This is the thing! Launched and created, safety first. good
        1. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 4 June 2020 23: 06 New
          +1
          And they did not scream about the "Great Breakthrough", but the regular one launched another rocket. Normal work space routine .... soldier
      2. DVR
        DVR 4 June 2020 12: 51 New
        41
        and Russia created ?!

        In a series of articles about the trampoline over the past few days, they have almost convinced me that Russia can no longer do anything but promise and fantasize. That only six-time lunanauts are capable of such feats under the leadership of the great and ingenious Mask.
        And here, on you, that.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 4 June 2020 14: 47 New
          -14
          Quote: DVR
          led by the great and brilliant Mask
          Musk launched Starlink-7 early this morning - another 60 StarLink satellites were launched into orbit.
          1. DVR
            DVR 4 June 2020 15: 47 New
            +8
            Well done, without any sarcasm. Everyone does his work because of opportunities and necessity, healthy competition. Well, there’s no reason to sprinkle ash on your head, and to make an event of universal scale from the launch of the spacecraft (even the spacecraft on the ISS, even the satellites).
          2. mark2
            mark2 4 June 2020 17: 19 New
            +7
            While someone puts debris into orbit, others, at this time, strengthen the defense.
            1. Elephant
              Elephant 4 June 2020 18: 18 New
              0
              Quote: mark2
              While someone puts debris into orbit, others, at this time, strengthen the defense.

              So damned adversaries do both, not sparing money for it. And they do not deduce garbage, but small satellites for cheap, and maybe free, as OneWeb (where Russia is also a share) Internet. So, if the latter is realized and free smart Internet really appears on my smart, then I will be very pleased that such “garbage” will open up new opportunities and save me money.
              1. KAV
                KAV 4 June 2020 20: 27 New
                +3
                Quote: Elephant
                if the latter comes true and free internet really appears on my smart, then I will be very pleased

                Do not forget, dear, that free cheese is only in a mousetrap. Nobody will give you anything for free just like that.
                1. Elephant
                  Elephant 5 June 2020 12: 55 New
                  -1
                  Quote: KAV
                  Do not forget, dear, that free cheese is only in a mousetrap. Nobody will give you anything for free just like that.

                  Partly agree. But the OneWeb project mentioned above is being created as free satellite internet all over the world. the ball. But our Internet providers are sure to try to cut us all such a ball. To do this, they will connect the KGB, the military, Rospotrebnadzor, charge the deputies. Providers will suffer serious losses if they do not stop progress ...
              2. mark2
                mark2 4 June 2020 22: 11 New
                +2
                I thought that someone would push for a freebie from the Mask!
                The adversaries just regret the money.
                Internet will not be free to anyone. Maybe a little cheaper, but no more. Serious people have invested in this project. Buy satellites, rockets. put it all in orbit. They will not want to do something for free. All this with the goal of making money
                And what about the Mask in general turned out to be radically cheaper than the others? Could cities be filled with cheap Tesla? Or are hyperloops directly built everywhere? Starship to Mars everything explodes and explodes. And each such explosion - lies overhead for the first successful launch and subsequent if they will. By the time his spaceship can even enter the Earth’s orbit, its value will be equal to the weight of gold equal in weight to the fully filled ship. For each unsuccessful start, resources were spent that needed to be replenished in monetary terms.
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 5 June 2020 05: 43 New
                  +1
                  Quote: mark2
                  I thought that someone would push for a freebie from the Mask!
                  The adversaries just regret the money.
                  Internet will not be free to anyone. Maybe a little cheaper, but no more.
                  About 50 bucks it will cost if my memory serves me right. But given the global reach, this is a reasonable price.
                  Quote: mark2
                  And what about the Mask in general turned out to be radically cheaper than the others? Could cities be filled with cheap Tesla? Or are hyperloops directly built everywhere? Starship to Mars everything explodes and explodes. And each such explosion - lies overhead for the first successful launch and subsequent if they will. By the time his spaceship can even enter the Earth’s orbit, its value will be equal to the weight of gold equal in weight to the fully filled ship. For each unsuccessful start, resources were spent that needed to be replenished in monetary terms.
                  I do not agitate for the Mask, but I do not understand the aggression against him. He does business, attracts engineers (including Russian), invests in his sometimes crazy ideas. The one who does nothing is not mistaken. Even on his wretched appearance, Hypertrack has thousands of preorders.
                  Nevertheless, I did not hear that in his structures criminal cases were massively opened, a multi-billion-dollar theft was fixed, workers complained about salary non-payment. And here in Roscosmos this is what happens all the way.
              3. Rubi0
                Rubi0 5 June 2020 11: 52 New
                -1
                The Internet is free, and how much advertising you see in 5 minutes is another question. Recently, I’m already furious with YouTube with my advertising on TV, and to refuse opa pay the loot =)
            2. Greenwood
              Greenwood 5 June 2020 05: 35 New
              -1
              Quote: mark2
              While someone is putting debris into orbit
              Global Internet Garbage?
              Quote: mark2
              fasten the defense
              I immediately have a question: is it impossible to use space not only for militarization purposes? I would prefer that we invest more money in deep space projects or something like Starlink, and not once again "strengthen the defense."
        2. Voltsky
          Voltsky 4 June 2020 15: 14 New
          -20
          Well, as it were, the Russian Federation lags far behind in space from the same Chinese
          1. The comment was deleted.
          2. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 4 June 2020 16: 10 New
            +2
            strong or weak it’s all from the evil one, China can launch 100 missiles but we’re one
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 4 June 2020 16: 20 New
              -4
              Quote: Voletsky
              RF yes lags far behind in space

              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              itay can launch 100 missiles but we have one but what

              I wrote somewhere about rocket science? :) In Roskosmos rocket science, everything is in order so far, but in the study of outer space of the Russian Federation on the same level as Japan
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 4 June 2020 16: 22 New
                +2
                we alone cannot pull the study. almost all Japan and nasa devices have our developments
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 4 June 2020 16: 29 New
                  -22
                  Well, firstly, not all, and secondly, a very small percentage; so there is no right to call yourself a space power of the Russian Federation, there are only 2 of them now, and if you take the EU, then 3
                  SpaceX, Blue Origin => private cantors, with partial funding from the state => competitor of Roskomos, and they are not NASA or ECA :)
                  1. mark2
                    mark2 4 June 2020 17: 24 New
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                    so there is no right to call yourself a space power of the Russian Federation, there are only 2 of them now, and if you take the EU, then 3


                    Is this some kind of joke or nonsense?
                  2. Nastia makarova
                    Nastia makarova 5 June 2020 07: 57 New
                    0
                    why say nonsense about a space power ????
            2. Aag
              Aag 4 June 2020 18: 35 New
              -2
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              strong or weak it’s all from the evil one, China can launch 100 missiles but we’re one

              Which one? ... And most importantly, when? I'm talking about oncoming, oncoming and oncoming, retaliatory strikes.
              ..
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 5 June 2020 07: 59 New
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                I'm not talking about nuclear strikes but about space
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 4 June 2020 13: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Vol4ara
        I'm shocked!

        In a blackout, unconscious, how are those scientists who discovered something (discovered)? Also, they are always dead-dead who are. How did you stop by this word - shock. Everywhere it is wedged.laughing
      4. lis-ik
        lis-ik 4 June 2020 14: 36 New
        -5
        Quote: Vol4ara
        I'm in shock! That is, it will not “create”, it is not “planned to be created”, it has not “allocated funds for”, it has not been “discussed at a briefing” and it is not “Russia can create”, but Russia has created ?! Are you there, that you’ve gotten too full of such headlines to print, you haven’t gotten such a heading, are you rocking the boat?

        CEN Dome: Russia has created a satellite constellation to warn of missile attacks

        The Russian military deployed the basic space segment of a missile attack warning system in Earth’s orbit.

        Not everything is fine. Everything is in the spirit of the times. Find the two differences in the headline and in the news itself.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 4 June 2020 19: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: lis-ik
          Not everything is fine. Everything is in the spirit of the times. Find the two differences in the headline and in the news itself.

          We read further:
          Conclusion into the near-Earth orbit of the Tundra satellite, which took place on May 22 from the Plesetsk cosmodrome, brought the CEN up to the minimum staff of four units, allowing the system to perform its functions.

          That is, the system works, albeit in a minimal form.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 4 June 2020 19: 32 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexey RA
            albeit in a minimal form.

            If my memory serves me right, then initially the grouping consisted of three devices, and they controlled 90% of the globe. So four satellites are quite acceptable for fulfilling the assigned tasks, especially since I think there is a reserve of them and, if necessary, they will quickly launch such an apparatus with Strategic Missile Forces.
      5. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 4 June 2020 15: 56 New
        +2
        Their task is to monitor the territory of the United States in case of launching ballistic missiles from it across Russia or its allies.

        Quote: Vol4ara
        Russia created ?!

        Like this ? And what did the State Department say to this? Perhaps this creates another and considerable threat to the national security of the States! Will sanctions be included again?
    2. Borodai
      Borodai 4 June 2020 15: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      News plus! good

      For a long time, men have been working in Roskosmos, while some Mask lick and idolize .. wink
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 5 June 2020 05: 43 New
        -1
        Quote: Borodai
        For a long time, men have been working in Roskosmos.
        So how is it? When will we fly to the moon and Mars?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 5 June 2020 05: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          When will we fly to the moon and Mars?

          Like a crayfish whistling on a mountain, then we’ll fly. laughing
    3. Vicontas
      Vicontas 4 June 2020 18: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      News plus!

      What is good - there are no bazaars! But the question is - are there any “arguments” for them from American vulgar jokes in the form of anti-satellite weapons and all kinds of “inspectors” in the form of an X-37 spaceship from Uncle Sam’s stable! There was a precedent when one of the satellites fell apart after an American "scientific researcher" fluttered nearby.
  2. orionvitt
    orionvitt 4 June 2020 12: 11 New
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    It is very strange to see such news. Indeed, judging by the latest events, as well as the comments on them, "especially gifted", Musk private owner tore "Roskosmos" in all respects. laughing But no, everything goes on as usual. We’ll also see who will be the last to laugh.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 4 June 2020 12: 34 New
      -21
      Quote: orionvitt
      It is very strange to see such news. Indeed, judging by the latest events, as well as the comments on them, "especially gifted", Musk private owner tore "Roskosmos" in all respects. laughing But no, everything goes on as usual. We’ll also see who will be the last to laugh.

      Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 4 June 2020 12: 40 New
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        Quote: Vol4ara

        Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend


        Mask's weird tendencies ...


        Officially, the docking unit was manufactured by Boeing, however, it is clearly seen on the NASA photograph that the main unit was manufactured at the RSC Energia Experimental Mechanical Engineering Plant. The Boeing docking unit is actually a development of the androgynous-peripheral docking unit APAS-75, developed by OKB-1 (RSC Energia) for the Soyuz-Apollon project, implemented in July 1975. In this regard, Andrei Lysenko, a well-known specialist in the history of space exploration, suggested: is the SpaceX Dragon-V2 docking unit also of Russian origin.

        Who knows what else is in the same performance ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 4 June 2020 12: 46 New
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          And these docking units were produced 4 pieces, including one unit was additional, because was lost in an accident.
        2. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 4 June 2020 12: 49 New
          -44
          Quote: Nasr
          Quote: Vol4ara

          Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend


          Mask's weird tendencies ...

          AND? The telephone that you use is made in China, the webs from which your pants are made are made in China, the machines that print rubles are made in Germany, try to find in the store not Chinese or Egyptian garlic, not Israeli radish, half apples and those imports, the list goes on and on . Musk’s tendencies are such that we haven’t done anything in 30 years, nothing new at all, the WORLD drowned it, developed heavy missiles that they didn’t build, and as it turned out, nobody needs them, but they trial and error, but they built a rocket that brings into orbit kg of cargo at a price 2 times lower than ours.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 4 June 2020 12: 55 New
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            Lord, what a delusional stream of subconscious mind fool
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 4 June 2020 12: 57 New
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              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Lord, what a delusional stream of subconscious mind fool

              Lord, what a miserable sophistry and an attempt to fart in a puddle for lack of arguments lol
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 4 June 2020 13: 01 New
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                Arguments? I have them. Only this takes precious time, debunking your delirium.
                No offense. You are simply wrong. hi
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 4 June 2020 13: 02 New
                  -31
                  Quote: Lord of the Sith
                  Arguments? I have them. Only this takes precious time, debunking your delirium.
                  No offense. You are simply wrong. hi

                  No offense, I do not agree hi
                2. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 4 June 2020 15: 48 New
                  -20
                  Quote: Lord of the Sith
                  Arguments? I have them.

                  you don’t have them :)
                  The scope of space exploration in the Russian Federation is not just in poor condition, it is dead :)
                  And here I have arguments :)
                3. Aag
                  Aag 4 June 2020 18: 41 New
                  -2
                  "..You are just wrong .."
                  About garlic, or about PEACE? Or about what else of the above?
              2. Kart
                Kart 4 June 2020 13: 03 New
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                Quote: Vol4ara
                developed heavy rockets that they didn’t build and as it turned out, nobody needs them either


                https://yandex.ru/news/story/Minoborony_zakazalo_chetyre_rakety-nositelya_Angara--6e931bbb9d97123f82955b0c916a6d4c?fan=1&from=newswizard&persistent_id=99324387&wizard=story
                Of course, you don’t need them, but MO Russia is the other way around.
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 4 June 2020 14: 12 New
                  -21
                  Quote: Carte
                  https://yandex.ru/news/story/Minoborony_zakazalo_chetyre_rakety-nositelya_Angara--6e931bbb9d97123f82955b0c916a6d4c?fan=1&from=newswizard&persistent_id=99324387&wizard=story

                  https://topwar.ru/167320-angara-chto-nas-zhdet-v-blizhajshie-gody.html уже писали и про мо и про ангару
          2. Nasrat
            Nasrat 4 June 2020 12: 58 New
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            The answer to pessimists: Americans rejoice as children that they can again send a person into space ... we have not stopped doing this all these 30 years ... of which 9 years have been rolling Americans and still will be rolling !!! ... and to the USA there wasn’t such a screech as you are publishing now ... And those who make telephones still have an interest in our technologies in the same rocket science, aviation, missile warning system, etc. ... And the export of food from Russia to China only increasing ...
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 4 June 2020 13: 01 New
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              Quote: Nasr
              The answer to the pessimists: Americans rejoice as children that they can again send a person into space ... we have not stopped doing this for all these 30 years ... of which 9 years have been rolling Americans and still will be rolling !!! ... and to the USA there wasn’t such a screech as you are publishing now ...

              Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon. The problem is that apart from rolling someone into space, which is a direct inheritance of the USSR, we can’t do anything else, and we won’t be able to do that. And they just have far-reaching plans
              1. Nasrat
                Nasrat 4 June 2020 13: 09 New
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                Quote: Vol4ara

                Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                It is unlikely that I will be able to write, at the time of their colonization of the moon ... wassat


                Quote: Vol4ara

                The problem is that apart from rolling someone into space, which is a direct inheritance of the USSR, we can’t do anything else, and we won’t be able to do that.

                You definitely can’t do anything else but shout the guard ... especially since you have such tendencies tongue
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 4 June 2020 14: 14 New
                  -26
                  Quote: Nasr
                  Quote: Vol4ara

                  Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                  It is unlikely that I will be able to write, at the time of their colonization of the moon ... wassat


                  Quote: Vol4ara

                  The problem is that apart from rolling someone into space, which is a direct inheritance of the USSR, we can’t do anything else, and we won’t be able to do that.

                  You definitely can’t do anything else but shout the guard ... especially since you have such tendencies tongue

                  Unfortunately, the guard had to be shouted 30 years ago. Yes, my tendencies are like calling red red and soft soft
              2. Sergey39
                Sergey39 4 June 2020 13: 11 New
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                Quote: Vol4ara
                Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                Why when? They colonized her for a long time. And not only the moon. Are you not watching Hollywood movies?
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 4 June 2020 14: 15 New
                  -29
                  Quote: Sergey39
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                  Why when? They colonized her for a long time. And not only the moon. Are you not watching Hollywood movies?

                  I am a patriot, I watch only cartoons from MO. (I have no doubt that they are not depicted on them, otherwise it will start here ...)
                2. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 4 June 2020 19: 17 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Sergey39
                  Why when? They colonized her for a long time. And not only the moon. Are you not watching Hollywood movies?

                  Ahem ... and according to other sources, the Nazis have long been sitting on the moon. smile
              3. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 4 June 2020 13: 16 New
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                The Yankees are colonizing the moon ... There must be a good reason for this. They, like no other, know how to count money. Why do they need the moon now?
                They already have enough problems, they are not up to colonization in the coming decades.

                And about far-reaching plans, so you can say anything you want, draw these plans on paper, then declare victory
                These are just words hi
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 4 June 2020 14: 17 New
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                  Quote: Lord of the Sith
                  The Yankees are colonizing the moon ... There must be a good reason for this. They, like no other, know how to count money. Why do they need the moon now?
                  They already have enough problems, they are not up to colonization in the coming decades.

                  And about far-reaching plans, so you can say anything you want, draw these plans on paper, then declare victory
                  These are just words hi

                  But the devil knows them. Ask them. About helium3 it seems unlikely, what for it is needed when there is no thermonuclear reactor, although who knows ... Or maybe the weapons will be placed there ...
                  1. bk316
                    bk316 4 June 2020 16: 52 New
                    +6
                    Or maybe they’ll put a weapon there ...

                    What weapon? They cannot make a new ICBM. Just an ICBM mine-based. Are they minutemans or something to take to the moon?
                    1. Vol4ara
                      Vol4ara 4 June 2020 20: 03 New
                      -5
                      Quote: bk316
                      Or maybe they’ll put a weapon there ...

                      What weapon? They cannot make a new ICBM. Just an ICBM mine-based. Are they minutemans or something to take to the moon?

                      Proofs
              4. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 4 June 2020 13: 33 New
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                Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.


                If all the children of patriots take power from the VO site, you will turn large stones into small stones, somewhere in Siberia .. laughing
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 4 June 2020 14: 19 New
                  -22
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.


                  If all the children of patriots take power from the VO site, you will turn large stones into small stones, somewhere in Siberia .. laughing

                  If these patriots take power, then Siberia will be either a separate country or China. So, God forbid, Putin’s vertical of power is better than people without a head
                  1. Greenwood
                    Greenwood 5 June 2020 05: 45 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    Putin’s vertical is better
                    The servile mentality and faith in the tsar-priest among many Russians, unfortunately, even the Soviet government could not completely exhaust.
                    1. Vol4ara
                      Vol4ara 5 June 2020 06: 46 New
                      -3
                      Quote: Greenwood
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      Putin’s vertical is better
                      The servile mentality and faith in the tsar-priest among many Russians, unfortunately, even the Soviet government could not completely exhaust.

                      Of 2 evils
                2. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 4 June 2020 19: 20 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  If all the children of patriots take power from the VO site, you will turn large stones into small stones, somewhere in Siberia ..

                  The funny thing is that in this case, among the first to go to Siberia, patriots from the VO site. smile
                  The revolution is how the god Saturn devours his children.
                  © Pierre Vikturnien Verno
              5. ser56
                ser56 4 June 2020 14: 16 New
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                Quote: Vol4ara
                when they colonize the moon

                and why? laughing By the way, what did you mean - Лunu?
                Quote: Vol4ara
                we can’t do anything else, and with such tendencies we won’t be able to

                you speak for yourself - if you can not - sympathize ... repeat

                Quote: Vol4ara
                And they just have far-reaching plans

                yes, 9 years to a low orbit ...
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 4 June 2020 14: 30 New
                  -17
                  Quote: ser56
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  when they colonize the moon

                  and why? laughing By the way, what did you mean - Лunu?
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  we can’t do anything else, and with such tendencies we won’t be able to

                  you speak for yourself - if you can not - sympathize ... repeat

                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  And they just have far-reaching plans

                  yes, 9 years to a low orbit ...

                  And what kind of orbit have we reached since 91? Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 4 June 2020 15: 48 New
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                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    And what kind of orbit have we reached since 91?


                    So far to the Lagrange point L2.

                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?


                    A lot of what. New leaky satellite platforms this time. New manned systems are two. New highly sensitive space devices are three. There are four new bio and technological materials. New information systems are five. laughing

                    You can continue further, but is it necessary? ....
                    1. Vol4ara
                      Vol4ara 4 June 2020 20: 04 New
                      -5
                      Quote: slipped
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      And what kind of orbit have we reached since 91?


                      So far to the Lagrange point L2.

                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?


                      A lot of what. New leaky satellite platforms this time. New manned systems are two. New highly sensitive space devices are three. There are four new bio and technological materials. New information systems are five. laughing

                      You can continue further, but is it necessary? ....

                      No further is not necessary, abstraction is enough, go through the indicated points and indicate which platforms, which manned systems
                      1. DVR
                        DVR 4 June 2020 20: 15 New
                        +5
                        Bye to Lagrange point L2

                        This is not an abstraction. Here, obviously, the X-ray telescope Spectrum-RG was meant. A very serious and unique project at the moment, read.
                      2. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 4 June 2020 20: 18 New
                        -6
                        Quote: DVR
                        Bye to Lagrange point L2

                        This is not an abstraction. Here, obviously, the X-ray telescope Spectrum-RG was meant. A very serious and unique project at the moment, read.

                        Ok, but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative
                      3. ser56
                        ser56 4 June 2020 20: 40 New
                        0
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative

                        Do not voice your achievements? hi
                      4. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 4 June 2020 21: 32 New
                        -1
                        Quote: ser56
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative

                        Do not voice your achievements? hi

                        No problem. An average of 2 operations per day. Spinalniks about once a week. The rest of the time receptions. 5 through 2. I perform the functions assigned to me 100%
                      5. ser56
                        ser56 4 June 2020 21: 41 New
                        0
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        I carry out the functions assigned to me 100%

                        those. didn’t come up with anything yourself? bully
                      6. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 4 June 2020 21: 59 New
                        -2
                        Quote: ser56
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        I carry out the functions assigned to me 100%

                        those. didn’t come up with anything yourself? bully

                        I came up with something myself
                      7. ser56
                        ser56 4 June 2020 22: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        I came up with something myself

                        so modest ... why so little? why not 10 pieces? laughing
                        is an analogy available? wink
                      8. ser56
                        ser56 4 June 2020 22: 03 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        I came up with something myself

                        1) I have 26 patents of the Russian Federation ... repeat
                        2) to answer the question with a question is not polite, but you are one of these wrestlers from the Russian Federation, therefore you did not expect another request
                      9. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 4 June 2020 23: 44 New
                        -2
                        Quote: ser56
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        I came up with something myself

                        1) I have 26 patents of the Russian Federation ... repeat
                        2) to answer the question with a question is not polite, but you are one of these wrestlers from the Russian Federation, therefore you did not expect another request

                        I hope you do not need to explain that quantity is not synonymous with quality? He tried to defend the first dissertation by some kind of immunomodulator, he was small and stupid and sincerely believed in him, only then I realized what shit it was and in what ass Russian science was. however, if you are not a doctor, you will understand little. So you can read some patents out of boredom, you can become disabled from laughter.
                        Yes, I’m a fighter with the Russian Federation, I would love to see a socialist union on the site of this misfortune
                      10. ser56
                        ser56 5 June 2020 13: 27 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        I hope you do not need to explain that quantity is not synonymous with quality?

                        and quantity goes into quality ... bully
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        consciousness what shit and in what ass is Russian science

                        ordinary song of losers ... request
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        you are not a doctor; you will understand little.

                        Well, why - I have patents for the delivery of drugs and radio-controlled substances ... repeat
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        How to read some patents can be bored, you can become disabled from laughter.

                        write yours - super duper ... show class ... hi
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        Yes, I’m a fighter with the Russian Federation, I would love to see a socialist union on the site of this misfortune

                        you are sorry, you just do not understand what the USSR is ... request this is when from banana gonorrhea 21 injections ... and now 1 tablet ... request This is when you have a salary of 120 and nutrition at the expense of the sick hi And the pharmacy simply DOESN’t need it at any price ... and the tomograph is only in the hospital at the authorities ...
          3. DVR
            DVR 4 June 2020 20: 51 New
            0
            Regarding 30 years, see my answer to your comment below. Although it is lower, it’s the previous one, and you could not help but see it. This is ignorance ... for a literate person.
          4. The comment was deleted.
        3. DVR
          DVR 4 June 2020 21: 12 New
          +1
          Ok, but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative

          In my comment at 17:04 I answered this if memory fails.
          It is necessary to correlate "not enough" and real possibilities and needs in a given period of historical development. I also read Belyaev and A. Tolstoy as a child, and dreamed ... But it was completely different when I grew up.
  • ser56
    ser56 4 June 2020 20: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Vol4ara
    Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?

    yes a lot of things - for example, they created GLONASS, restored the constellation of military satellites (see article), we are making a new type of spacecraft - with a nuclear power station and an ion engine ...
    read ... hi
  • +5
    +5 4 June 2020 14: 35 New
    +2
    If there is no breakthrough in the life expectancy of an ordinary person up to 150-200 years, at least, then no one will see this ...
  • Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 4 June 2020 18: 25 New
    +3
    About "colonize the moon" ... it's something ... laughing
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 4 June 2020 20: 07 New
      -5
      Quote: Alex Nevs
      About "colonize the moon" ... it's something ... laughing

      Aha

      Unfortunately the picture is not correct, go down 2 points
      1. DVR
        DVR 4 June 2020 20: 41 New
        0
        Aha
        Unfortunately the picture is not correct, go down 2 points

        Here the last 4 points are of fundamental importance, all the rest has already been in the history of astronautics (only this was not Rad Dragon, Falcon Heavy, etc. were pioneers). Well, except for "land without parachutes." This Soviet project was never implemented (for well-known reasons). It seems like they want to reanimate now, God forbid. Now, it may not be the best moment to do such global extra-expensive things. At one time, tremendous resources were spent on N-1. Yes, and in the 80s they were too led to the race, although this speaks more about the quality of the Soviet elite, which has long held its nose in the wind (west). You don’t need it now, there are more urgent matters, we’ll do them - there will be time for such large-scale projects. Do you, so competent, not understand such an elementary?
        1. DVR
          DVR 4 June 2020 21: 26 New
          0
          parachute free

          To be sure. Of course, I meant "plant without parachutes" in the atmosphere, understanding what was being discussed. Not the Moon, of course, where without parachutes they "sat down" for a long time.
      2. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 5 June 2020 08: 23 New
        0
        Why is the ISS international? Not? Cost not?
  • Aag
    Aag 4 June 2020 19: 01 New
    +1
    ".. And the export of food from Russia to China is only increasing ..."
    At the same time, the number of agricultural products from China, and not only, does not decrease on our shelves. And domestic, only increases in price equivalent (to a greater extent than import).
    Why so fiercely minded the person who told the truth?
    There is no point in arguing about the “high technologies”, we don’t have reliable information (who has it, it’s silent, if not). You can discuss it and you need it. Without frenzy .. hi
  • asv363
    asv363 4 June 2020 13: 19 New
    +8
    Yesterday, in my opinion, there was news at VO that the Moscow Region ordered 4 Angara rockets from NPO Energia to launch satellites into geostationary orbit.
  • DVR
    DVR 4 June 2020 13: 40 New
    11
    AND? The telephone that you use is made in China, the weaving of your pants is made in China, the machines that print rubles are made in Germany, try to find in the store not Chinese or Egyptian garlic, not Israeli radish, half apples and those imports, the list goes on and on .

    It is not worth comparing radishes and cell phones with unique space technologies. This is a bad manners for such a competent person. Even if we are deprived of everything that you have listed, no tragedy will happen. Well, the quality and capabilities of gadgets will be worse.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 4 June 2020 14: 24 New
      -14
      Quote: DVR
      AND? The telephone that you use is made in China, the weaving of your pants is made in China, the machines that print rubles are made in Germany, try to find in the store not Chinese or Egyptian garlic, not Israeli radish, half apples and those imports, the list goes on and on .

      It is not worth comparing radishes and cell phones with unique space technologies. This is a bad manners for such a competent person. Even if we are deprived of everything that you have listed, no tragedy will happen. Well, the quality and capabilities of gadgets will be worse.

      These technologies are the legacy of a country that does not exist. Show me the technology of the Russian Federation. which we have developed from scratch? Have you heard anything about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Why is such a global dependence on cnc machines, without Simenovsky and Khokhlyatsky turbines, all plans for the fleet have risen. Why does China have its own station, but we don’t, why did they drown PEACE? Are we the first in space or is it just a candy wrapper? What have we done in space for 30 years, just name what we have been doing for 30 years except to exploit the legacy of the USSR, what developments? and all my disputes will immediately fall away.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 June 2020 15: 18 New
        10
        Imagine about machine tool building, we heard, saw, and even bought from the same STAN - 200 different offices work in Russia to create and produce machine tools for various industries - but the client is always up to the client that suits him and he will buy our products on the machine tool market .
      2. DVR
        DVR 4 June 2020 17: 04 New
        11
        These technologies are the legacy of a country that does not exist.

        I answered a similar question the other day. I will even give here that comment with small additions:
        It would be interesting to hear from you what achievements have been noted by Russian cosmonautics since the beginning of the nineties, and comparisons with the achievements of the previous period.

        What are you talking about, dear? Since the beginning of the nineties? In one of my previous comments, I already wrote that it was under such howls in the 90s that we lost the USSR, got criminal capitalism in the worst case scenario. Countries after this do not live. Fortunately, you do not need to go far for examples. Ukraine began its independence with huge potential in the field of aviation, space, and much more. And now there is nothing from the word at all. What space are crazy? The fate of peripheral criminal capitalism is not only the absence of outer space, but the absence of science and production as such, decay and degradation in all respects.
        In a series of articles about the trampoline published here in recent days, there are comments that well describe Russia's achievements in the field of space technology. The network is also full of information, do not be lazy, read. Once again I say that those achievements that are are contrary to what happened in the beginning of the 90s. The necessary tasks are being solved in spite of corruption, nepotism, the degradation of science, etc., which, unfortunately, exist (they could not have been in the built system). They are being solved, because, thank God, there are still people who still do something, and do not whine on sites, like some who themselves are not capable of anything.

        What we have done in space in 30 years, just name what we have been doing for 30 years

        It is unclear why you and your like-minded people take the count from the 90th year. In the 91st we survived a grave disaster, suffered losses comparable to participation in a major military conflict. The West, on the contrary, raped a gesheft of comparable size in this disaster. Enterprises, design bureaus, institutes were closed and plundered by thousands. It is incorrect, in my opinion, to make such comparisons, especially for such a competent person. And, nevertheless, much has been done.

        Show me the technology of the Russian Federation. which we have developed from scratch?

        Why should the Russian Federation generally refuse to create and develop in the USSR? A frequently used trick, but explain why Russia, which is the legal successor, should abandon these developments? Many of the developments unfortunately are poached, but not using what they managed to save would be the height of idiocy and crime.

        Have you heard anything about machine tools in the Russian Federation?

        I heard. Not as much as we would like, but still I heard, even the other day I came across an article. https://maxpark.com/community/88/content/7139493
        There is a lot of information on the net, I will not look for it all for you now. You just need to learn to see not only shitty.
        https://maxpark.com/community/88/content/7139493

        Why is such a global dependence on cnc machines, without Simenovsky and Khokhlyatsky turbines, all plans for the fleet have risen. Why does China have its own station, but we don’t, why did they drown PEACE? Are we the first in space or is it just a candy wrapper?

        You want everything at once, but it doesn’t. Even in the mighty USSR it was not like that. For example, the USSR traditionally lagged behind in electronics, inferior in engines to military fighter aircraft. Now, by the way, Russia can outperform its competitors in this matter (Vol. 30 is being tested). But the USSR had much greater opportunities and resources. And the Soviet society was formed to achieve great goals, implement large and complex projects.
        What can we say about the Russian Federation. Everything will not work right away, you need to do what is critically necessary, and then take on the rest. I don’t know about the WORLD account, but I’m thinking it’s not the right time to build my station at the moment. Not enough for all resources, there are more priority tasks. And yet we are in the ISS program, so far this is enough to maintain competencies. Regarding gas turbines, as far as I know, the issue has long been resolved.
        Even here they wrote about this for a long time:
        https://topwar.ru/114597-analiz-chem-gazoturbinnye-dvigateli-saturna-luchshe-gtd-zorya-mashproekt.html
        or here
        https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2018/09/14/11967469.shtml
        And Ukrainian helicopter engines were replaced by our improved ones. And the development and production of such products are very difficult things. Few in the world can repeat in a relatively short time. Read more, a lot is being done, but more needs to be done.
    2. Aag
      Aag 4 June 2020 19: 26 New
      0
      “It’s not worth comparing radishes and cell phones with unique space technology.”
      I agree.
      "Even if we are stripped of everything you have listed, no tragedy will happen."
      Now this is a question.
      For not all citizens are interested in “space technologies”, but the absence of a “radish”, or the availability of bread at 120 r / kg (with a “record export of wheat”), many have noticed, noticed, felt.
      I do not dispute your arguments in terms of the achievements listed in the commentary (17.04). hi
      1. DVR
        DVR 4 June 2020 19: 46 New
        +4
        For not all citizens are interested in “space technologies”, but the absence of a “radish”, or the availability of bread at 120 r / kg (with a “record export of wheat”), many have noticed, noticed, felt.

        I do not see any particular problems in terms of food security of the Russian Federation. And in the event of a cessation of supply (which is very unlikely in itself) of one or another necessary (I do not mean ham) products, I am sure that local manufacturers will reimburse pretty quickly. Europe’s retaliatory sanctions have shown this. For example, the other day I took Mont Blanc cheese from a domestic producer (or Belarus, I don’t remember, it doesn’t change the essence) - I was delighted. And it’s not just done, but with all the subtleties of the recipe. As for bread at 120 r / kg, it’s hard to evaluate now (I never measured bread in kg :) and, sorry, I don’t want to go into it - slightly "relaxed after work, understand correctly)". Yes, and I try to respond to the comments of opponents, but I have them (the answers) sometimes are long. Slowly life wakes up as the quarantine weakens, although it has been extended (but softened). Work fell over, a little tired. Here are a couple of links opened for interest:
        http://tsenomer.ru/produkti/hleb/
        https://krsdstat.gks.ru/storage/mediabank/Ned03_pitanie_22.htm
        Honestly, I did not see anything critical for most of the population. I myself have an average income. Of course, not enough for everything)
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  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 4 June 2020 15: 01 New
    +5
    Musk’s trends are such that for 30 years we haven’t done anything, nothing new at all, the WORLD drowned it, developed heavy missiles that they didn’t build, and as it turned out, nobody needs them, but they are trial and error,


    AAAAAAAAAAAA we all die !!! lol
    And this is all bad.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 4 June 2020 15: 11 New
    +5
    You generally saw what condition the world was at the time of its flooding - I advise you to look so that you would not write any dregs.
  • Samara
    Samara 4 June 2020 13: 12 New
    14
    Quote: Nasr
    Who knows what else is in the same performance ...

    This is a big secret !!!! laughing Such a howl and scream stands as if the United States launched the first man into space 10 years later ...))) And our Russians from the ISS applaud with delight in the illuminator laughing
    PS The funniest thing is that these astronaut heroes were immediately harnessed to unload the cargo, etc. .. tongue
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 June 2020 20: 09 New
      0
      Well, the slave arrived on her ship - that’s unloaded.
  • neri73-r
    neri73-r 4 June 2020 13: 04 New
    14
    Quote: Vol4ara
    Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend

    Not a fact, especially in the first parameter. The funding structure is classified, a reasonable assumption is that the bulk of this is public funds and in reality this project is NOT commercially successful. But, knowing the arrogant Saxons, they will blow all the pipes, that this is purely commerce and they have overtaken all !!! Lies and marketing are the whole West. But about the trend did not understand?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 June 2020 12: 43 New
    +3
    Quote: orionvitt
    It is very strange to see such news.

    In my opinion, even in an article about Ilon, theirs, it was written that the military segment of the space program works for us, is being implemented.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 4 June 2020 12: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      that the military segment of the space program is working for us, is being implemented.


      It has always been like this ... Korolev launched his rockets in the hope of launching a man into space ...
      everything has its time...
      1. Samara
        Samara 4 June 2020 13: 15 New
        +4
        Quote: Nasr
        It has always been like this ... Korolev launched his rockets in the hope of launching a man into space ...
        everything has its time...

        And nuclear weapons were created, in parallel, for peaceful purposes (nuclear power plants, icebreakers, etc.)
  • Nemo
    Nemo 4 June 2020 13: 34 New
    -9
    And where does Roskosmos to the VKS? It launches the VKS, only missiles from the RCC Progress are ordered.
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 June 2020 14: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: Nemo
      And where does Roskosmos to the VKS? It launches the VKS, only missiles from the RCC Progress are ordered.


      RCC "Progress" is Roscosmos laughing
      1. Nemo
        Nemo 4 June 2020 14: 48 New
        -7
        I separate the projectors like Rogozin from Roscosmos from the manufacturers that were pushed there.
        1. slipped
          slipped 4 June 2020 15: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Nemo
          I separate the projectors like Rogozin from Roscosmos from the manufacturers that were pushed there.


          Ah, well, its own virtual reality - well, cool, what. laughing
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 4 June 2020 14: 03 New
    -10
    The joy is somewhat strange, given that it’s not Roskosmos but the military, and most likely from Plesetsk. And these are the basic devices (albeit new ones) - performing the function of determining the fact of launch / ballistics, already well-established over the decades. And nothing but this.
    Yes (probably) IR cameras and optics became more powerful, it is possible that they improved the autonomy and computing time, added noise immunity, etc. - but there is no breakthrough anywhere. Since 1979, “Eye” and further down the list, for 41 years we have been doing this, some devices replace others.
    Zs from 2001-2008, the previous 4 SPRN satellites were hanging with us, so the time has come to change to the next 4. So this is the minimum by the way ..
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 June 2020 14: 33 New
      +7
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      The joy is somewhat strange, given that it’s not Roskosmos but the military, and most likely from Plesetsk.


      one more.... lol At startups, representatives of the manufacturer are always present.

      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      For 41 years we have been doing this, some devices replace others.


      Four vehicles in orbit allow you to determine launches more reliably.

      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Zs from 2001-2008, the previous 4 SPRN satellites were hanging with us, so the time has come to change to the next 4. So this is the minimum by the way ..


      And there will be even more. laughing
  • Charik
    Charik 4 June 2020 15: 30 New
    -3
    Yes, but for some reason, he launched 60 pieces today, there the person writes above
  • Borodai
    Borodai 4 June 2020 16: 00 New
    -4
    Quote: orionvitt
    Musk tore "Roskosmos" in all positions. laughing But no, everything goes as it should. We’ll also see who will be the last to laugh.

    Well, it happens, let the farts sew up back ..)))) These are flowers so far ..
  • mark2
    mark2 4 June 2020 17: 28 New
    +1
    But because it is not proper to compare private traders and state corporations. Roscosmos fulfills, for the most part, government orders. As the state says to fly to Mars, Roscosmos will begin to work in this direction. In the meantime, the tasks are different.
  • dzvero
    dzvero 4 June 2020 12: 20 New
    +7
    This happens with the help of the latest infrared sensors installed on satellites. They can accurately determine the moment of launch of a rocket against the background of the earth's surface. These instruments also track the flight path and automatically calculate the estimated place of impact of missile warheads.

    Those. the satellite provides a processed start signal. Are primary data available on earth for re-testing or are they completely relying on satellite equipment?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 June 2020 12: 40 New
      +4
      At least, when a start signal is received, all the “ears” immediately strain on the crown! Then the "fly" will not slip unnoticed!
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 4 June 2020 12: 53 New
      11
      Quote: dzvero
      Are primary data available on earth for re-testing or are they completely relying on satellite equipment?

      This has never happened even in Soviet times, because this warning system works when we all overslept in the world. In fact, it is duplicated by over-the-horizon radar stations at the time of launch, which also works around the clock. But preparations for the launch itself are being monitored by other reconnaissance equipment, including strategic deployment systems and some intelligence systems of the armed forces.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 4 June 2020 12: 21 New
    +4
    More and more weapons appear in space. And these are not only warning satellites. I will not be surprised if in the near future, our designers return to the Buran project, or rather, they will develop the Soviet idea further.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 4 June 2020 12: 48 New
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      More and more weapons appear in space.

      Well, strictly speaking, the Dome is not a weapon.
      Although the news is certainly good. These are the successes of Plesetsk, so if the successes of Vostochny and Baikonur had also pleased, then it would have been wonderful.
      1. slipped
        slipped 4 June 2020 14: 42 New
        +8
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        These are the successes of Plesetsk, so if the successes of Vostochny and Baikonur had also pleased, then it would have been wonderful.


        There were four launches from Baikonur, the next pair of launches from there in July - the Progress MS-15 and the pair of Express communications satellites. Vostochny is waiting for a payload from foreign customers, there was supposed to be a launch in June, but they were delayed indefinitely due to their circumstances. The launch of the new Glonass-K from Plesetsk also moved to July.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 4 June 2020 15: 20 New
          -8
          Quote: slipped
          - Vostochny expects payload from foreign customers

          "East" was built for this? Do not be fooled, Rosskosmos is in a deep crisis.
          1. slipped
            slipped 4 June 2020 15: 36 New
            10
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            "East" was built for this? Do not be fooled, Rosskosmos is in a deep crisis.


            Especially for you, a photo from the MIC of the Vostochny spaceport with assembled rocket packages awaiting launch laughing :



            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 4 June 2020 15: 48 New
              -8
              Quote: slipped

              Especially for you, a photo from the MIC of the Vostochny spaceport with the assembled laughing rocket packs awaiting launch:

              Thanks for the photo.
              And how many years will these “missile packages” be in the MIC?
              And why are they lying and not flying? No money for fuel? After all, the products, as I understand it, are ready.
              1. slipped
                slipped 4 June 2020 15: 54 New
                11
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Thanks for the photo.


                Pzhlsta.

                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                And how many years will these “missile packages” be in the MIC?


                Launches of these missiles have already been paid by the customer - these are commercial missiles. As a foreign customer determines its payload, they will fly. While they are in storage - this allows a guarantee.

                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                No money for fuel?


                Smiled. laughing There was no money for fuel in the 90s. Now this is in full order.

                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                products, as I understand it, are ready.


                Missiles for domestic spacecraft are also delivered, but not assembled (in the photo, their steps are in covers) since domestic manufacturers only assemble these spacecraft launching their spacecraft from Vostochny.
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 4 June 2020 16: 13 New
                  -7
                  Quote: slipped

                  Launches of these missiles have already been paid by the customer - these are commercial missiles. As a foreign customer determines its payload, they will fly.

                  Did they build the "East" for them? How many years ago was the launch pad ready? How many missiles did Russia launch from it? request
                  Quote: slipped

                  Smiled. laughing Money for fuel was not in the 90s. Now this is in full order.

                  Though here pleased. laughing
                  Quote: slipped

                  Missiles for domestic spacecraft are also delivered, but not assembled (in the photo, their steps are in covers) since domestic manufacturers only assemble these spacecraft launching their spacecraft from Vostochny.

                  Why? Am I really wrong to say that this is a crisis. What is Roscosmos in deep opera?
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 4 June 2020 16: 58 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Did they build the "East" for them? How many years ago was the launch pad ready? How many missiles did Russia launch from it? request


                    No, not only. laughing At the end of 2016. Five rockets "Soyuz-2".

                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Why?


                    Because from the Vostochny cosmodrome, from the launch pad C1, only launches of VNIIEM corporation are currently possible. This is due to the fact that at the cosmodrome there are still no technical facilities for servicing the products of other domestic satellite builders, NPO Lavochkin or ISS named after Reshetnev. The first has only equipped spaces for working with the Frigates, the second is only going to launch its spacecraft from Vostochny. But at Gazprom: Space Systems, the construction of its plant has only recently begun, the plant will be ready in the middle of 2022 and it will immediately orient its products to Vostochny.
                    1. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk 4 June 2020 18: 03 New
                      0
                      Quote: slipped
                      slipped

                      Thanks for the encouraging information.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 4 June 2020 15: 29 New
          -5
          Quote: slipped
          but they are delayed indefinitely due to their circumstances

          You didn’t answer me so, who do you work in Roskosmos?
          1. slipped
            slipped 4 June 2020 15: 37 New
            +6
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            You didn’t answer me so, who do you work in Roskosmos?


            I answered you, look earlier. laughing
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 4 June 2020 20: 24 New
              -2
              Quote: slipped
              look earlier.

              Ah, purogon! laughing
              1. slipped
                slipped 4 June 2020 22: 17 New
                +1
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Ah, purogon! laughing


                do you throw poop? lol Oh well
    2. Samara
      Samara 4 June 2020 13: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      I will not be surprised if in the near future, our designers return to the Buran project, or rather, they will develop the Soviet idea further.

      Already started, but this is not an arms race will be .. And just in case!
      Developments are available, just to raise the level of it.d.
      Infa such slips, but very quietly and carefully .. And then the howl will rise the universe. hi
      Quote: rocket757
      . All who are supposed to understand this perfectly

      Ivse is a shame, for such harassment of everything and everyone ..
      1. Borodai
        Borodai 4 June 2020 15: 48 New
        -4
        Quote: Samara
        Ivse is a shame, for such harassment of everything and everyone

        Ah Samara town .. laughing negative
  • DVR
    DVR 4 June 2020 12: 24 New
    11
    He spoke about this the other day. The necessary tasks are being solved ... which cannot but rejoice.
    In response, as a rule - cons and no counterarguments)
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 4 June 2020 12: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: DVR
      In response, as a rule -

      This is how to say ... then, the most "active, invigorated" sho that bright, victorious serve !!! And our work was quiet, inconspicuous ... if you didn’t come close to the antennas !!! ... and very necessary. All who are supposed to understand this perfectly soldier
  • Break through
    Break through 4 June 2020 12: 32 New
    +4
    The good news
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 June 2020 12: 34 New
    +6
    The more lines of intelligence - control, the better, of course!
    This is pleasing, also because all this is very, very close and familiar ... was soldier
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 June 2020 12: 53 New
    +2
    Similar systems even under the Soviet Union were, slowly updating the constellation of orbiting satellites from obsolete to new ones, which cannot but rejoice)) good
  • knn54
    knn54 4 June 2020 12: 54 New
    +5
    -Alexander: Musk broke the Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend.
    NASA has signed a $ 2 billion contract for 15 missions with the SpaceX campaign. Given the availability of 4 seats, the cost of the flight of one astronaut
    costs 33 million. Bucks against 80. which Rogozin "fought".
    ATTENTION-Russian triple ship "Soyuz". Its cost is about $ 30 million, plus another $ 50 million (no more) is the cost of the Soyuz 2.1 carrier and the Frigate upper stage. In total, about 80 million dollars for three. And this, taking into account the profits of manufacturers,
    As a result, 26 ...- 27 million dollars per person.
    1. +5
      +5 4 June 2020 14: 39 New
      +3
      It’s still if you plant 4 times in the Dragon every time ... which may just not be necessary.
      And it seems like about 500 lyam for the launch was ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 June 2020 15: 25 New
        -2
        Dragon 2 ship is reusable - and the Union is not reusable in the first, this is already a significant savings. And Mask advertising is several orders of magnitude better than Roskosmos - this is also a significant contribution to success in attracting customers.
        1. +5
          +5 4 June 2020 15: 51 New
          +4
          It was about the launch price and the place ... what's the difference a lot or one? Dragon has this in view of its reusability.
          And firing people with the help of the first beush step and on the beush ship is somehow not Christian .... the only practice will show the absence of the effect of reusability on safety.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 June 2020 20: 13 New
            -1
            Already in Khrestian, or rather, more profitable, than to build a new ship and a new first step.
    2. slipped
      slipped 4 June 2020 15: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: knn54
      NASA has signed a $ 2 billion contract for 15 missions with the SpaceX campaign. Given the availability of 4 seats, the cost of the flight of one astronaut
      costs 33 million. Bucks against 80. which Rogozin "fought".


      the cost of a seat for a commercial flight on the Dragon, according to SpaceX, is $ 55 million (no one has flown yet)
      the cost of a seat for a commercial flight on Soyuz MS according to Forbes data is ~ $ 40 million (the Arab cosmonaut al-Mansouri 2019 year)
      the cost of the Soyuz MS commercial spacecraft for an autonomous flight with one Russian astronaut and two passengers by Space Adventures was not made public, but a similar route had previously been estimated at $ 30-40 million per seat.

      Quote: knn54
      ATTENTION-Russian triple ship "Soyuz". Its cost is about $ 30 million, plus another $ 50 million (no more) is the cost of the Soyuz 2.1 carrier and the Frigate upper stage.


      According to the site Spaceflightnow, the cost of the Soyuz MS-16 TPK is 2,373,245,900 rubles. the cost of the Soyuz-2.1a rocket is 1,218,126,370 rubles, the cost of the head fairing is 80,758,790 rubles.

      The total cost of iron is 3,672,131,060 rubles.

      "Frigate" is not included in the cost of manned launches because it is not used in them at all.

      Quote: knn54
      In total, about 80 million dollars for three. And this, taking into account the profits of manufacturers,


      The dollar at the rate of ~ 70 rubles. laughing

      The cost of launching a manned ship adds the cost of work to ensure a manned launch.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 June 2020 20: 16 New
        0
        For Americans, Roscosmos has lifted the price tag up to 90 million for one place in the Union - so now they will fly exclusively on Dragons 2 and there Starliner will catch up. But for every NASA firefighter, places in the Union until the age of 22 were reserved.
        1. slipped
          slipped 4 June 2020 22: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          For Americans, Roscosmos has lifted the price tag to 90 million for one place in the Union - so now they will fly exclusively on Dragons 2


          And why should they fly in the Unions if their ship is available? laughing Let them fly on it - we are not against it, we are even for it - the second transport system has long been needed, we will soon need to return the third member of the ISS Russian crew to the station.

          Quote: Vadim237
          and then Starliner will catch up. But for every NASA firefighter, places in the Union until the age of 22 were reserved.


          For money and delivery of our goods.
  • Carnifexx
    Carnifexx 4 June 2020 12: 57 New
    +3
    Great news. The thing is not superfluous, but the developed competencies are my respect.
  • Hydrogen
    Hydrogen 4 June 2020 13: 21 New
    -2
    Why is monitoring only the territory of the USA ?, they have complete bases around the world, we need everyone under the "dome"
    1. Aag
      Aag 4 June 2020 19: 43 New
      0
      Quote: Hydrogen
      Why is monitoring only the territory of the USA ?, they have complete bases around the world, we need everyone under the "dome"

      It’s interesting, why did you get minuses? For an uncomfortable question? Well, if you just wrote: do not rush, everything will be a bit later ...
  • Lieutenant Ivolgin
    Lieutenant Ivolgin 4 June 2020 13: 40 New
    -9
    in Russia or its allies

    Are there still those, have we not yet dispersed everyone? Who else is there? Aw!
    We still have one strong ally - Kadyrov (without a republic). So it seems to be part of Russia.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 4 June 2020 13: 54 New
      +2
      Of course, the CSTO remained
      1. Lieutenant Ivolgin
        Lieutenant Ivolgin 4 June 2020 14: 15 New
        -10
        Yes yes yes of course. I completely forgot about such allies. So we are fraternally, alliedly, before each new year, we close the valve on the pipe, so to speak, to strengthen friendship.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 June 2020 15: 26 New
        0
        The CSTO is one for all and each for itself on the same principle, and all of NATO is built in the case of a military star.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 4 June 2020 13: 47 New
    -5
    the main danger of a missile attack comes from submarines .... controlling them is problematic ...
    1. Aag
      Aag 4 June 2020 19: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Pvi1206
      the main danger of a missile attack comes from submarines .... controlling them is problematic ...

      You do not see from the experience of previous commentators that such questions are punishable by minuses?
      Quote: AAG
      Quote: Hydrogen
      Why is monitoring only the territory of the USA ?, they have complete bases around the world, we need everyone under the "dome"

      It’s interesting, why did you get minuses? For an uncomfortable question? Well, if you just wrote: do not rush, everything will be a bit later ...
      1. Pvi1206
        Pvi1206 4 June 2020 20: 00 New
        0
        the opinion of others is not important for me ... I do not pursue the pluses ... I once participated in the creation of the SPRN ...
        1. Aag
          Aag 4 June 2020 20: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Pvi1206
          the opinion of others is not important for me ... I do not pursue the pluses ... I once participated in the creation of the SPRN ...

          I appreciate. But I'm interested in the motivation of people minus the quite adequate questions, on the topic, without provocation and ernichenie. hi
  • Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 4 June 2020 13: 55 New
    +8
    And what, the touring troupe of the theater of song and dance "all disappeared" did not appear in the commentary? And we just got used to their mournful romances "they merged everything again" and "it is not clear what we are doing" ...
    lol lol lol
  • I AM BELARUSIAN
    I AM BELARUSIAN 4 June 2020 14: 05 New
    +3
    Finally! It is high time.
  • Errr
    Errr 4 June 2020 14: 10 New
    +3
    Orbit "Tundra".
    The Tundra orbit is one of the types of a high elliptical orbit with an inclination of 63,4 ° and a period of revolution on a starry day (4 minutes less than a sunny day). The spacecraft located in this orbit are in geosynchronous orbit. The orbit of such a spacecraft will resemble an eight.
    The Tundra orbit is based on the same principles as the other highly elliptical orbit - the Lightning orbit. Due to the high angle of inclination, the Tundra orbit is advantageous to use in latitudes above 50 °. Depending on the pericenter argument (ω), the orbit can serve both the northern (ω = 270 °) and southern (ω = 90 °) hemispheres.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орбита_«Тундра»
    1. Errr
      Errr 4 June 2020 14: 27 New
      +1
      http://lib.tssonline.ru/articles2/sputnik/modifikatsiya-orbity-tundra-dlya-obsluzhivaniya-territorii-rossii-i-analiz-ee-ustoychivosti
  • Brancodd
    Brancodd 4 June 2020 14: 12 New
    +9
    Statistics for 2019
    In 2019, EKA completed 9 starts, including 1 emergency.
    Roscosmos -25 (all trouble-free).
    USA - 21.
    China - 34 (2 emergency).
    Such is the efficiency in comparison.
    The period without emergency launches of Roscosmos is 1 year and 8 months. In total - 35. This is a record for the entire post-Soviet period.
  • codetalker
    codetalker 4 June 2020 14: 44 New
    -9
    This is of course a very revealing example, especially for the patriots, who here organized bacchanalia on the Mask. Everything is wonderful in Russia with space technology. It is important to ensure quality management of the field. Compare: Rogozin / MO.
    At the same time, Rogozin has been spoiling the space program for many years, before he had already harmed the military-technical development, but from this direction he managed to be removed, thank God.
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 June 2020 16: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: codetalker
      Everything is wonderful in Russia with space technology.


      There are problems who do not have them? laughing This year, the Chinese dropped two vehicles, the United States dropped one, but it’s like that .... there the first launch of the carrier was even a private trader. ESA closed its cosmodrome for half a year, stopping all its programs and evacuating personnel.

      Quote: codetalker
      It is important to ensure quality management of the field. Compare: Rogozin / MO.


      Are you proposing to Rogozin again to wear uniforms throughout the industry? laughing

      Quote: codetalker
      At the same time, Rogozin has been spoiling the space program for many years,


      But from now on pzhlst in more detail, when and where? Or is this an allegation?

      Quote: codetalker
      previously even harmed military-technical development, but from this direction it was possible to remove it, thank God.


      Grandmother prevented sawing? Can I go now? laughing
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 4 June 2020 18: 26 New
        -4
        You then study his activities a little, especially when he was deputy prime minister. There are nowhere to put stigmas on.
        1. slipped
          slipped 4 June 2020 18: 37 New
          +4
          Quote: codetalker
          You then study his activities a little, especially when he was deputy prime minister. There are nowhere to put stigmas on.


          Give the link - I’ll study. winked I have something to compare. laughing
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 4 June 2020 15: 22 New
    +3
    The Russian Taiga spacecraft are combined into a single space system (CEN) called the Dome.

    Conclusion into the Earth orbit of the Tundra satellite

    Good news, of course!
    But, damn it, "Tundra" or "Taiga"? Or are they different devices, but in one bundle?
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 15: 25 New
    -11
    It is strange to read comments where Mask, Roscosmos and the Cosmos Study itself are intertwined :)
    The guys in the SGA space are ahead of the rest of the planet and this is a fact, then comes China, Europe, and then the Russian Federation either goes near or behind Japan
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 June 2020 16: 41 New
      +7
      Quote: Voletsky
      The guys in the SGA space are ahead of the rest and this is a fact


      For AMC and investing in space projects, I agree laughing

      Quote: Voletsky
      then comes China, Europe, and only then, next to or next to Japan, is the Russian Federation


      China has not yet learned how to make modern rocket and space technology and is doing it as it can, collecting or simply stealing technology from the world. Europe buys space products from Russia because in some areas they are cheaper and more technologically advanced than European ones. Russia is also gaining a payload from Europe for modern platforms. China and America, by the way, also buy from Europe and Russia. Japan focuses on the United States - their domestic cosmonautics is entirely dependent on the wishes of the older brother.
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 4 June 2020 16: 45 New
        -7
        Quote: slipped
        For AMC and investing in space projects, I agree

        Perhaps, in Russia, there is something other than rocket science left? :) We take Wikipedia and compare the number of research projects completed ... What will we see there?! :)
        We can take the main players, SGA, China, EU, Japan

        rocket science is part of the development of the military-industrial complex, with the military-industrial complex in the Russian Federation, everything is openwork ... But it is only indirectly related to the study and development of space.
        1. slipped
          slipped 4 June 2020 17: 03 New
          +8
          Quote: Voletsky
          Perhaps, in Russia, is there anything left besides rocket science? :)


          Not only "left", but new systems appear. Here's the news, for example - the other day, the modernization of the tower of the IZMIRAN optical solar telescope in Troitsk began. New modern equipment will be installed to work with the spacecraft of the Intergeliozond space project.

          Quote: Voletsky
          We take Wikipedia and compare the number of research projects completed ... What will we see there?! :)


          What will you see there? belay List pozhsta "the number of research projects completed from Wikipedia" in Russia. I’m even interested myself. laughing
          1. Voltsky
            Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 11 New
            -5
            Consider them not there :) having done research and going to the links, I basically came across a good old shift to the right :) I certainly got excited about the Wikipedia account, but the English version seems to be more saturated


            here you can familiarize yourself, maybe raise your mood, or lower yourself :) Depending on your requirements
            https://www.roscosmos.ru/22888/
            1. slipped
              slipped 4 June 2020 17: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: Voletsky
              Consider them not there :)


              Those. you merge lol getting off with common phrases and can’t list? Or do not want to? laughing
              1. Voltsky
                Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 18 New
                -6
                Venus-D - shift to the right
                Interhelioprobe - shift to the right
                Return-MCA - shift to the right
                Millimetron - shift to the right
                astrometry - shift to the right
                Or should you list everything? :)
                Roscosmos is a competitor Mask, yes ... The mask to Roscosmos 30 swim by shit, but it’s neither a Chinese space program, nor an American national


                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:NASA_programs
                1. slipped
                  slipped 4 June 2020 17: 20 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Voletsky
                  Venus-D ....
                  Or should you list everything? :)


                  Why are you issuing a list of planned projects? You yourself said - completed projects. What is the list of completed projects since 1991? And you give me a list of future ones. Ugly even somehow. laughing
                  1. Voltsky
                    Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 21 New
                    -6
                    All done - this is Earth exploration, of course it’s good for business, but this is not space exploration
                    1. slipped
                      slipped 4 June 2020 17: 23 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Voletsky
                      All done is Earth exploration


                      Merging again? laughing So your statement is false? Or Wikipedia says that "this is Earth reconnaissance" - give a link please.

                      Or are you just stupidly doing crap? lol
                      1. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 25 New
                        -8
                        Are you a troll?! :) Or a fool ?!
                        And they are not planned, they had to be launched for a long time, and long been operated

                        this generalization was, TUS-M, for example, for studying the atmosphere, there are instruments for geological exploration, there are communication satellites .... all this is local.

                        Where is the observatory for example ?! Any analogue to the Web or old Habl ?!

                        I gave you a direct link to Roskosmos, and not the wiki there, all of their projects are indicated.
                      2. slipped
                        slipped 4 June 2020 17: 38 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        Are you a troll?! :) Or a fool ?!


                        Wai, I asked a simple question, you’ll talk too much .... and he will call names laughing

                        Quote: Voletsky
                        And they are not planned, they had to be launched for a long time, and long been operated


                        These are future projects, work on them goes as far as possible.

                        Quote: Voletsky
                        this generalization was, TUS-M, for example, for studying the atmosphere, there are instruments for geological exploration, there are communication satellites .... all this is local.


                        You should have listed me completed projects from wikipedia and more. Why are you telling me about remote sensing systems?

                        Quote: Voletsky
                        Where is the observatory for example ?! Any analogue to the Web or old Habl ?!


                        And why are there analogues if there is a Hubl or is it planned to be Webb? Do they stupidly repeat? Why, the point? The Hubble’s work has long been the property of the entire world community, as well as the work of our space telescope interferometer with an extra-long base - the Radiastron.

                        Quote: Voletsky
                        I gave you a direct link to Roskosmos, and not the wiki there, all of their projects are indicated.


                        You since 1991 give that. Right by the list. laughing And I’ll look and maybe I’ll add if Wikipedia lied with you.
                      3. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 40 New
                        -6
                        Quote: slipped
                        You since 1991 give that. Right by the list. And I’ll look and maybe I’ll add if Wikipedia lied with you.

                        There is not a damn thing on Wikipedia, I issued a link to Roskosmos there all the projects there, forgot how to read ?!

                        James Webb - Webb ?! :))))
                        W - Yeah, but could he have a smart ride?
                      4. slipped
                        slipped 4 June 2020 17: 44 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        We take Wikipedia and compare the number of research projects completed ...


                        Quote: Voletsky
                        There isn't a damn thing on Wikipedia


                        Oops Oh well. Here it is - this Wikipedia. If necessary, then no. But to be honest, that is, in secret - I spied laughing
                      5. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 46 New
                        -4
                        Quote: slipped
                        Oops Oh well. Here it is - this Wikipedia. If necessary, then no. But to be honest, that is, in secret - I spied

                        there is about amers on the wiki, but there is not a damn thing about the Chinese, something about EU projects .... I probably should have written, google; here yes I agree.

                        Wiki is a very strange resource for selecting information (often there are newspaper ducks transferred to the wiki) ... but we are not talking about it. And about the fact that the Russian Federation is no longer a space power, so a 3-4 star player
                      6. slipped
                        slipped 4 June 2020 17: 51 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        there is about amers on the wiki, but there is not a damn thing about the Chinese, something about EU projects .... I probably should have written, google; here yes I agree.


                        And it’s better not to look in there, but to scientists that are directly involved in research projects, read what and how, it is true there until 2015 http://iki.cosmos.ru/books/2015booklet_iki50.pdf But I think about the work in the last five years, you can ask me, I’ll tell you not a problem.
                      7. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 56 New
                        -4
                        Yes, I look at them as much as possible :) It’s not related to work, it’s more personal interest .... I’m more angry about something that slipped from the first to the 3-4th place, and Rogozin the goat Khrushche reminds me very much :)
                      8. slipped
                        slipped 4 June 2020 18: 04 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        I’m more angry about the fact that they slipped from the first to 3-4 places


                        We were the first in the USSR, for even more money was invested than the United States. The USSR has long been gone. We are doing what we can do now for the money that we have.
                      9. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 4 June 2020 18: 10 New
                        -4
                        And there will be no more such a country; well, since you are so tied up there, convince me already, that Rogozin is not a copy of the bald chmyr, that he killed with a boot of cockroaches on the UN rostrum, and that everything improved dramatically over the 2 years of his reign
                      10. slipped
                        slipped 4 June 2020 18: 31 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        convince me already that Rogozin is not a copy .... and that over the 2 years of his reign, everything has dramatically improved


                        Frankly tired of persuading. laughing It’s easy to raise the RESULTS of the 2018-2019 year on the Roskosmos website and read what and how.
                      11. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 4 June 2020 18: 32 New
                        -3
                        he only managed to come, and these are old developments; Aral Sea goat also didn’t immediately multiply by 0
        2. slipped
          slipped 4 June 2020 17: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: Voletsky
          James Webb - Webb ?! :))))
          W - Yeah, but could he have a smart ride?


          And what is more correct Watson or Watson? lol Just like in / in Ukraine, by golly laughing Neighing. Non-Russian chtol?
        3. Voltsky
          Voltsky 4 June 2020 18: 01 New
          -3
          Quote: slipped
          And how is more correct

          more correctly the texas ranger walker
        4. slipped
          slipped 4 June 2020 18: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: Voletsky
          more correctly the texas ranger walker


          Englishism enters the Russian language brown laughing, and on the other hand, the Russian word "fuck" after the video shows of the 80s with American cinema dramatically changed its meaning for Russians laughing But this is offtopic nonsense.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 17: 37 New
    -6
    I then my own words about the fact that the Russian Federation at the level of Japan to study and promote space technology can; and you’re an ordinary hat-thrower, and the maximum you can tell me that Mask has rockets that are less technologically advanced, but there Mask is an ordinary PR manager, and not the country that first launched man into space, and the first to launch space exploration :)
  • slipped
    slipped 4 June 2020 18: 00 New
    +6
    Quote: Voletsky
    I then my own words about the fact that the Russian Federation at the level of Japan to study and promote space technology can;


    Is Japan able to launch its astronauts into space? No.

    Quote: Voletsky
    and you’re an ordinary hat-thrower, and the maximum you can tell me that Mask has rockets that are less technologically advanced, but there Mask is an ordinary PR manager, and not the country that first launched man into space, and the first to launch space exploration :)


    belay He decided everything for me. Abaldet. Yes, I don’t want to tell you anything, read the booklet, he will tell you everything himself. laughing
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 18: 03 New
    -5
    Quote: slipped
    Is Japan able to launch its astronauts into space? No.

    pimple mask provides this function as needed
  • slipped
    slipped 4 June 2020 18: 10 New
    +4
    Quote: Voletsky
    pimple mask provides this function as needed


    Musk lives in Japan ???? belay Konichi-va Maska-san. laughing

    But seriously, the last four Japanese astronauts reached the ISS exclusively on the Soyuz MS.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 14 New
    -2
    Quote: slipped
    But seriously, the last four Japanese astronauts reached the ISS exclusively on the Soyuz MS.

    and what should they have been ?!
  • slipped
    slipped 4 June 2020 22: 30 New
    +2
    Quote: Voletsky
    and what should they have been ?!


    On a trampoline laughing But seriously - then the next Japanese astronaut that was supposed to fly, they flew, they have such cooperation with the Allies according to their rules and quota.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 22: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: slipped
    On a state trampoline But seriously - then the next Japanese astronaut that was supposed to fly, they flew, they have such cooperation with the Allies according to their rules and quota.

    person to person a wolf, or did I miss something? :)
  • slipped
    slipped 4 June 2020 22: 53 New
    +3
    Quote: Voletsky
    person to person a wolf, or did I miss something? :)


    Yes, I duplicated, duplicated .... Yes, I duplicated .... request

  • Aag
    Aag 4 June 2020 20: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Voletsky
    Quote: slipped
    Is Japan able to launch its astronauts into space? No.

    pimple mask provides this function as needed

    I got the impression that you are both educated people, but you’ll sing, how to say ... Who is cooler: an academic without a driver’s license, or a driver who carries him. Can the academic adjust carburetor?
    Now we got to the citizenship of the "taxi driver"! ... drinks
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 20: 22 New
    -2
    I hate Rogozin, for his epic vidos, and 1v1 friends as he is :)
  • slipped
    slipped 4 June 2020 22: 46 New
    +3
    Quote: Voletsky
    I hate Rogozin, for his epic vidos, and 1v1 friends as he is :)


    "Well, your neighbor, they take the villain, because he looks like Beria ..." lol
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 22: 49 New
    -1
    no because of him, they piss me off - because I'm not Rogozin, I can’t afford to change the terms :)
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 23: 16 New
    -1
    why did you write this nonsense!?

    I have this deer, one question, what the hell are you promising, what can’t guarantee, he really thinks that he will promise and everything will be done, but in the service of which he will fall in love with everyone?! :) No, he won’t fall in love only as a speaker his head will shout in the background, and Pavlensky will be hired for a performance to suit him under the doors

    or stop, am I also mistaken here?! :)
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 4 June 2020 21: 44 New
    -3
    I know who this Rogozin chekushka is, the bosses are nearby, running around like crazy running around, showing activity all laurels to himself, jambs on colleagues and problems on the team; but like that I'm not me and not a bunch of mine.
    Let the artist Pavlensky shit under the door, make a performance.
    ps
    if I adjust the carburetor, what will happen?! :)))))
  • slipped
    slipped 4 June 2020 22: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: AAG
    Now we got to the citizenship of the "taxi driver"! ... drinks


    Do you also think that he is Japanese ?! belay
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 4 June 2020 20: 20 New
    0
    Achievement of Japan in the space sector is a spacecraft landing and taking off from an asteroid and a truck sent to the ISS.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 4 June 2020 20: 23 New
    -2
    Quote: Vadim237
    Achievement of Japan in the space sector is a spacecraft landing and taking off from an asteroid and a truck sent to the ISS.

    Well, we don’t have that either.
  • slipped
    slipped 4 June 2020 22: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Vadim237
    Achievement of Japan in the space sector is a spacecraft landing and taking off from an asteroid and a truck sent to the ISS.

    Well, we don’t have that either.


    We have 76 trucks flying to the ISS in July. laughing
  • st2st
    st2st 4 June 2020 16: 50 New
    +1
    And why was it necessary to destroy the radar of overseas detection of the "Wave" type? There were such developments, Plisetsk is resting.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 4 June 2020 19: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: st2st
      And why was it necessary to destroy the radar of overseas detection of the "Wave" type? There were such developments, Plisetsk is resting.

      And when was it destroyed?
      In addition, among the developers, Volna has the Dneprovskoye Design Bureau, and the manufacturer - Dneprovsky Machine-Building Plant.
      1. st2st
        st2st 5 June 2020 01: 32 New
        0
        Alexei, they destroyed the antenna in 2001, and, in 1992, it worked properly. Two of these stations were with us. One in Ukraine, the second in Primorye. Find -5. And the hands-free command: “readiness for a foreigner”, I still remember. 170 officers, 60 sailors and foremen. , a military town (five-story building, two two-story buildings, six huts), and a bunch of buildings for everyday life. And, it lived in itself. I’m silent about the zone, but I’m silent about it. But our western partners told the guarantor that the radar threatens our friendship with mattresses, and the guarantor, having done it, closed the station.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 June 2020 20: 22 New
      +1
      Now Containers and Voronezh set.
      1. st2st
        st2st 5 June 2020 01: 50 New
        0
        Vadim, “Voronezh” and did not stand next to the “Wave”. Coverage area "Waves" up to 2000 km. Voronezh has a lot less.
  • Blue fox
    Blue fox 4 June 2020 18: 01 New
    +3
    Good news. It is a pity that so far only the 4th (the first product 14F142 was put into orbit in 2015), for the full functioning of the system it was originally required 10, and they should have all been launched by ... 2020.
    1. slipped
      slipped 4 June 2020 18: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: Blue Fox
      Good news. It is a pity that so far only the 4th (the first product 14F142 was put into orbit in 2015), for the full functioning of the system it was originally required 10, and they should have all been launched by ... 2020.


      So sanctions on the purchase of advanced imported komplektuhi. I have to create my own. And it is not clear whether it is good or bad and I want even more sanctions. laughing
    2. reader65
      reader65 5 June 2020 00: 16 New
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      Duc, as elsewhere, sawed off 60%, so instead of 10 satellites - 4.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 4 June 2020 22: 38 New
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    Finally, the word sounded done, but will not be launched! I look forward to continuing.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 5 June 2020 00: 52 New
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    Quote: slipped
    Yes, I duplicated, duplicated .... Yes, I duplicated ....

    stop, I am critical of ours :) I'm not from the sect of witnesses Ilona Mask
    for work, brothers :) I want to see something else ... but yes, the requirements are too high; but Natsik, that tells me tales I don’t want to see
  • rjpthju
    rjpthju 5 June 2020 12: 14 New
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    So devices "Taiga" or "Tundra" ??? And so in everything .....................................