CEN Dome: Russia has created a satellite constellation to warn of missile attacks

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The Russian military deployed the basic space segment of a missile attack warning system in Earth’s orbit. It includes four satellites "Tundra".

About this news agency TASS said a source related to the military-industrial complex.



Russian spacecraft "Tundra" are united into a single space system (ESS) "Kupol". Their task is to monitor US territory in case ballistic missiles are launched from it at Russia or its allies. Satellites rotate in orbit along a highly elliptical trajectory, moving as far as possible from the surface of the planet by more than 35 thousand kilometers.

The launch of the Tundra satellite into low Earth orbit, which took place on May 22 from the Plesetsk cosmodrome, brought the CEN to a minimum of four personnel, allowing the system to perform its functions. Now Russia is able to track any ballistic launch or launch of space rockets from American territory.

This happens with the help of the latest infrared sensors installed on satellites. They can accurately determine the moment of launch of a rocket against the background of the earth's surface. These instruments also track the flight path and automatically calculate the estimated place of impact of missile warheads.
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    1. +42
      4 June 2020 12: 10
      News plus! good
      1. +35
        4 June 2020 12: 37
        I'm shocked! That is, it will not "create", it is not "planned to be created", it has not "allocated funds for", it has not been "discussed at a briefing" and not "Russia can create", but has Russia created ?! Are you there, that the henbane ate such headlines to print, having never been like that, rocking the boat?
        1. +8
          4 June 2020 12: 42
          This is the thing! Launched and created, safety first. good
          1. +1
            4 June 2020 23: 06
            And they did not squeal about the "Great Breakthrough", but the regular rocket was launched. Normal work space routine .... soldier
        2. DVR
          +41
          4 June 2020 12: 51
          and Russia created ?!

          In a series of articles about the trampoline over the past few days, they have almost convinced me that Russia can no longer do anything but promise and fantasize. That only six-time lunanauts are capable of such feats under the leadership of the great and ingenious Mask.
          And here, on you, that.
          1. -14
            4 June 2020 14: 47
            Quote: DVR
            led by the great and brilliant Mask
            Musk launched Starlink-7 early this morning - another 60 StarLink satellites were launched into orbit.
            1. DVR
              +8
              4 June 2020 15: 47
              Well done, without any sarcasm. Everyone does his work because of opportunities and necessity, healthy competition. Well, there’s no reason to sprinkle ash on your head, and to make an event of universal scale from the launch of the spacecraft (even the spacecraft on the ISS, even the satellites).
            2. +7
              4 June 2020 17: 19
              While someone puts debris into orbit, others, at this time, strengthen the defense.
              1. 0
                4 June 2020 18: 18
                Quote: mark2
                While someone puts debris into orbit, others, at this time, strengthen the defense.

                So the damned adversaries do both, sparing no money on it. And they do not take out garbage, but small satellites for cheap, and maybe free, like OneWeb (where Russia is also a share), Internet. So if the latter comes true and free internet really appears on my smart phone, then I will be very pleased that such "garbage" will open up new opportunities and save me money.
                1. KAV
                  +3
                  4 June 2020 20: 27
                  Quote: Elephant
                  if the latter comes true and free internet really appears on my smart, then I will be very pleased

                  Do not forget, dear, that free cheese is only in a mousetrap. Nobody will give you anything for free just like that.
                  1. -1
                    5 June 2020 12: 55
                    Quote: KAV
                    Do not forget, dear, that free cheese is only in a mousetrap. Nobody will give you anything for free just like that.

                    Partly agree. But the OneWeb project mentioned above is being created as free satellite internet all over the world. the ball. But our Internet providers are sure to try to cut us all such a ball. To do this, they will connect the KGB, the military, Rospotrebnadzor, charge the deputies. Providers will suffer serious losses if they do not stop progress ...
                2. +2
                  4 June 2020 22: 11
                  I thought that someone would push for a freebie from the Mask!
                  The adversaries just regret the money.
                  Internet will not be free to anyone. Maybe a little cheaper, but no more. Serious people have invested in this project. Buy satellites, rockets. put it all in orbit. They will not want to do something for free. All this with the goal of making money
                  And what did Musk do radically cheaper than others? Could the cities be filled with cheap Teslas? Or are hyperloops just being built everywhere? The starship to Mars explodes and explodes. And each such explosion is an overhead cost for the first successful launch and subsequent ones, if any. By the time his starship can even enter Earth's orbit, its value will be equal to the weight of gold equal in mass to a fully fueled ship. For each unsuccessful start, resources were spent that need to be replenished in monetary terms.
                  1. +1
                    5 June 2020 05: 43
                    Quote: mark2
                    I thought that someone would push for a freebie from the Mask!
                    The adversaries just regret the money.
                    Internet will not be free to anyone. Maybe a little cheaper, but no more.
                    About 50 bucks it will cost if my memory serves me right. But given the global reach, this is a reasonable price.
                    Quote: mark2
                    And what did Musk do radically cheaper than others? Could the cities be filled with cheap Teslas? Or are hyperloops just being built everywhere? The starship to Mars explodes and explodes. And each such explosion is an overhead cost for the first successful launch and subsequent ones, if any. By the time his starship can even enter Earth's orbit, its value will be equal to the weight of gold equal in mass to a fully fueled ship. For each unsuccessful start, resources were spent that need to be replenished in monetary terms.
                    I do not agitate for the Mask, but I do not understand the aggression against him. He does business, attracts engineers (including Russian), invests in his sometimes crazy ideas. The one who does nothing is not mistaken. Even on his wretched appearance, Hypertrack has thousands of preorders.
                    Nevertheless, I did not hear that in his structures criminal cases were massively opened, a multi-billion-dollar theft was fixed, workers complained about salary non-payment. And here in Roscosmos this is what happens all the way.
                3. -1
                  5 June 2020 11: 52
                  The Internet is free, and how much advertising you see in 5 minutes is another question. Recently, I’m already furious with YouTube with my advertising on TV, and to refuse opa pay the loot =)
              2. -1
                5 June 2020 05: 35
                Quote: mark2
                While someone is putting debris into orbit
                Global Internet Garbage?
                Quote: mark2
                fasten the defense
                I have a question right off the bat: can't you use space not only for militarization purposes? I would prefer that we put more money into deep space projects or something like Starlink, rather than "reinforce the defenses" again.
          2. -20
            4 June 2020 15: 14
            Well, as it were, the Russian Federation lags far behind in space from the same Chinese
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            2. +2
              4 June 2020 16: 10
              strong or weak it’s all from the evil one, China can launch 100 missiles but we’re one
              1. -4
                4 June 2020 16: 20
                Quote: Voletsky
                RF yes lags far behind in space

                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                itay can launch 100 missiles but we have one but what

                I wrote somewhere about rocket science? :) In Roskosmos rocket science, everything is in order so far, but in the study of outer space of the Russian Federation on the same level as Japan
                1. +2
                  4 June 2020 16: 22
                  we alone cannot pull the study. almost all Japan and nasa devices have our developments
                  1. -22
                    4 June 2020 16: 29
                    Well, firstly, not all, and secondly, a very small percentage; so there is no right to call yourself a space power of the Russian Federation, there are only 2 of them now, and if you take the EU, then 3
                    SpaceX, Blue Origin => private cantors, with partial funding from the state => a competitor of Roskomos, and they are not NASA or ECA :)
                    1. +11
                      4 June 2020 17: 24
                      so there is no right to call yourself a space power of the Russian Federation, there are only 2 of them now, and if you take the EU, then 3


                      Is this some kind of joke or nonsense?
                    2. 0
                      5 June 2020 07: 57
                      why say nonsense about a space power ????
              2. Aag
                -2
                4 June 2020 18: 35
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                strong or weak it’s all from the evil one, China can launch 100 missiles but we’re one

                Which one? ... And most importantly, when? I'm talking about oncoming, oncoming and oncoming, retaliatory strikes.
                ..
                1. 0
                  5 June 2020 07: 59
                  I'm not talking about nuclear strikes but about space
        3. +3
          4 June 2020 13: 38
          Quote: Vol4ara
          I'm shocked!

          In a blackout, unconscious, how are those scientists who discovered something (discovered)? Also, they are always dead-dead who are. How did you stop by this word - shock. Everywhere it is wedged.laughing
        4. -5
          4 June 2020 14: 36
          Quote: Vol4ara
          I'm shocked! That is, it will not "create", it is not "planned to be created", it has not "allocated funds for", it has not been "discussed at a briefing" and not "Russia can create", but has Russia created ?! Are you there, that the henbane ate such headlines to print, having never been like that, rocking the boat?

          CEN Dome: Russia has created a satellite constellation to warn of missile attacks

          The Russian military deployed the basic space segment of a missile attack warning system in Earth’s orbit.

          Not everything is fine. Everything is in the spirit of the times. Find the two differences in the headline and in the news itself.
          1. +2
            4 June 2020 19: 15
            Quote: lis-ik
            Not everything is fine. Everything is in the spirit of the times. Find the two differences in the headline and in the news itself.

            We read further:
            Conclusion into the near-Earth orbit of the Tundra satellite, which took place on May 22 from the Plesetsk cosmodrome, brought the CEN up to the minimum staff of four units, allowing the system to perform its functions.

            That is, the system works, albeit in a minimal form.
            1. +3
              4 June 2020 19: 32
              Quote: Alexey RA
              albeit in a minimal form.

              If my memory serves me right, then initially the grouping consisted of three devices, and they controlled 90% of the globe. So four satellites are quite acceptable for fulfilling the assigned tasks, especially since I think there is a reserve of them and, if necessary, they will quickly launch such an apparatus with Strategic Missile Forces.
        5. +2
          4 June 2020 15: 56
          Their task is to monitor the territory of the United States in case of launching ballistic missiles from it across Russia or its allies.

          Quote: Vol4ara
          Russia created ?!

          Like this ? And what did the State Department say to this? Perhaps this creates another and considerable threat to the national security of the States! Will sanctions be included again?
      2. +3
        4 June 2020 15: 58
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        News plus! good

        For a long time, men have been working in Roskosmos, while some Mask lick and idolize .. wink
        1. -1
          5 June 2020 05: 43
          Quote: Borodai
          For a long time, men have been working in Roskosmos.
          So how is it? When will we fly to the moon and Mars?
          1. +1
            5 June 2020 05: 52
            Quote: Greenwood
            When will we fly to the moon and Mars?

            Like a crayfish whistling on a mountain, then we’ll fly. laughing
      3. 0
        4 June 2020 18: 31
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        News plus!

        What's good - there are no markets! But the question is - are there any "arguments" on them from American vulgar jokes in the form of anti-satellite weapons and all sorts of "inspectors" in the form of an X-37 spaceplane from Uncle Sam's stable! There was a precedent when one of the satellites fell apart after an American "scientific researcher" fluttered nearby.
    2. +21
      4 June 2020 12: 11
      It's very strange to see such news. Indeed, judging by the latest events, as well as comments to them, "especially gifted", private trader Musk tore up "Roscosmos" in all positions. laughing But no, everything goes on as usual. We’ll also see who will be the last to laugh.
      1. -21
        4 June 2020 12: 34
        Quote: orionvitt
        It's very strange to see such news. Indeed, judging by the latest events, as well as comments to them, "especially gifted", private trader Musk tore up "Roscosmos" in all positions. laughing But no, everything goes on as usual. We’ll also see who will be the last to laugh.

        Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend
        1. +29
          4 June 2020 12: 40
          Quote: Vol4ara

          Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend


          Mask's weird tendencies ...


          Officially, the docking unit was manufactured by Boeing, however, it is clearly seen on the NASA photograph that the main unit was manufactured at the RSC Energia Experimental Mechanical Engineering Plant. The Boeing docking unit is actually a development of the androgynous-peripheral docking unit APAS-75, developed by OKB-1 (RSC Energia) for the Soyuz-Apollon project, implemented in July 1975. In this regard, Andrei Lysenko, a well-known specialist in the history of space exploration, suggested: is the SpaceX Dragon-V2 docking unit also of Russian origin.

          Who knows what else is in the same performance ...
          1. +11
            4 June 2020 12: 46
            And these docking units were produced 4 pieces, including one unit was additional, because was lost in an accident.
          2. -44
            4 June 2020 12: 49
            Quote: Nasr
            Quote: Vol4ara

            Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend


            Mask's weird tendencies ...

            AND? The telephone that you use is made in China, the webs from which your pants are made are made in China, the machines that print rubles are made in Germany, try to find in the store not Chinese or Egyptian garlic, not Israeli radish, half apples and those imports, the list goes on and on . Musk’s tendencies are such that we haven’t done anything in 30 years, nothing new at all, the WORLD drowned it, developed heavy missiles that they didn’t build, and as it turned out, nobody needs them, but they trial and error, but they built a rocket that brings into orbit kg of cargo at a price 2 times lower than ours.
            1. +25
              4 June 2020 12: 55
              Lord, what a delusional stream of subconscious mind fool
              1. -38
                4 June 2020 12: 57
                Quote: Lord of the Sith
                Lord, what a delusional stream of subconscious mind fool

                Lord, what a miserable sophistry and an attempt to fart in a puddle for lack of arguments lol
                1. +17
                  4 June 2020 13: 01
                  Arguments? I have them. Only this takes precious time, debunking your delirium.
                  No offense. You are simply wrong. hi
                  1. -31
                    4 June 2020 13: 02
                    Quote: Lord of the Sith
                    Arguments? I have them. Only this takes precious time, debunking your delirium.
                    No offense. You are simply wrong. hi

                    No offense, I do not agree hi
                  2. -20
                    4 June 2020 15: 48
                    Quote: Lord of the Sith
                    Arguments? I have them.

                    you don’t have them :)
                    The scope of space exploration in the Russian Federation is not just in poor condition, it is dead :)
                    And here I have arguments :)
                  3. Aag
                    -2
                    4 June 2020 18: 41
                    "..You are just wrong .."
                    About garlic, or about PEACE? Or about what else of the above?
                2. +20
                  4 June 2020 13: 03
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  developed heavy rockets that they didn’t build and as it turned out, nobody needs them either


                  https://yandex.ru/news/story/Minoborony_zakazalo_chetyre_rakety-nositelya_Angara--6e931bbb9d97123f82955b0c916a6d4c?fan=1&from=newswizard&persistent_id=99324387&wizard=story
                  Of course, you don’t need them, but MO Russia is the other way around.
                  1. -21
                    4 June 2020 14: 12
                    Quote: Carte
                    https://yandex.ru/news/story/Minoborony_zakazalo_chetyre_rakety-nositelya_Angara--6e931bbb9d97123f82955b0c916a6d4c?fan=1&from=newswizard&persistent_id=99324387&wizard=story

                    https://topwar.ru/167320-angara-chto-nas-zhdet-v-blizhajshie-gody.html уже писали и про мо и про ангару
            2. +35
              4 June 2020 12: 58
              The answer to pessimists: Americans rejoice as children that they can again send a person into space ... we have not stopped doing this all these 30 years ... of which 9 years have been rolling Americans and still will be rolling !!! ... and to the USA there wasn’t such a screech as you are publishing now ... And those who make telephones still have an interest in our technologies in the same rocket science, aviation, missile warning system, etc. ... And the export of food from Russia to China only increasing ...
              1. -44
                4 June 2020 13: 01
                Quote: Nasr
                The answer to the pessimists: Americans rejoice as children that they can again send a person into space ... we have not stopped doing this for all these 30 years ... of which 9 years have been rolling Americans and still will be rolling !!! ... and to the USA there wasn’t such a screech as you are publishing now ...

                Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon. The problem is that apart from rolling someone into space, which is a direct inheritance of the USSR, we can’t do anything else, and we won’t be able to do that. And they just have far-reaching plans
                1. +25
                  4 June 2020 13: 09
                  Quote: Vol4ara

                  Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                  It is unlikely that I will be able to write, at the time of their colonization of the moon ... wassat


                  Quote: Vol4ara

                  The problem is that apart from rolling someone into space, which is a direct inheritance of the USSR, we can’t do anything else, and we won’t be able to do that.

                  You definitely can’t do anything else but shout the guard ... especially since you have such tendencies tongue
                  1. -26
                    4 June 2020 14: 14
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Quote: Vol4ara

                    Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                    It is unlikely that I will be able to write, at the time of their colonization of the moon ... wassat


                    Quote: Vol4ara

                    The problem is that apart from rolling someone into space, which is a direct inheritance of the USSR, we can’t do anything else, and we won’t be able to do that.

                    You definitely can’t do anything else but shout the guard ... especially since you have such tendencies tongue

                    Unfortunately, the guard had to be shouted 30 years ago. Yes, my tendencies are like calling red red and soft soft
                2. +20
                  4 June 2020 13: 11
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                  Why when? They colonized her for a long time. And not only the moon. Are you not watching Hollywood movies?
                  1. -29
                    4 June 2020 14: 15
                    Quote: Sergey39
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.

                    Why when? They colonized her for a long time. And not only the moon. Are you not watching Hollywood movies?

                    I am a patriot, I watch only cartoons from MO. (I have no doubt that they are not depicted on them, otherwise it will start here ...)
                  2. +1
                    4 June 2020 19: 17
                    Quote: Sergey39
                    Why when? They colonized her for a long time. And not only the moon. Are you not watching Hollywood movies?

                    Ahem ... and according to other sources, the Nazis have long been sitting on the moon. smile
                3. +19
                  4 June 2020 13: 16
                  The Yankees are colonizing the moon ... There must be a good reason for this. They, like no other, know how to count money. Why do they need the moon now?
                  They already have enough problems, they are not up to colonization in the coming decades.

                  And about far-reaching plans, so you can say anything you want, draw these plans on paper, then declare victory
                  These are just words hi
                  1. -21
                    4 June 2020 14: 17
                    Quote: Lord of the Sith
                    The Yankees are colonizing the moon ... There must be a good reason for this. They, like no other, know how to count money. Why do they need the moon now?
                    They already have enough problems, they are not up to colonization in the coming decades.

                    And about far-reaching plans, so you can say anything you want, draw these plans on paper, then declare victory
                    These are just words hi

                    But the devil knows them. Ask them. About helium3 it seems unlikely, what for it is needed when there is no thermonuclear reactor, although who knows ... Or maybe the weapons will be placed there ...
                    1. +6
                      4 June 2020 16: 52
                      Or maybe they’ll put a weapon there ...

                      What weapon? They cannot make a new ICBM. Just an ICBM mine-based. Are they minutemans or something to take to the moon?
                      1. -5
                        4 June 2020 20: 03
                        Quote: bk316
                        Or maybe they’ll put a weapon there ...

                        What weapon? They cannot make a new ICBM. Just an ICBM mine-based. Are they minutemans or something to take to the moon?

                        Proofs
                4. -9
                  4 June 2020 13: 33
                  Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.


                  If all the children of patriots take power from the VO site, you will turn large stones into small stones, somewhere in Siberia .. laughing
                  1. -22
                    4 June 2020 14: 19
                    Quote: Keyser Soze
                    Better think of what you will write when they colonize the moon.


                    If all the children of patriots take power from the VO site, you will turn large stones into small stones, somewhere in Siberia .. laughing

                    If these patriots take power, then Siberia will be either a separate country or China. So, God forbid, Putin’s vertical of power is better than people without a head
                    1. -4
                      5 June 2020 05: 45
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      Putin’s vertical is better
                      The servile mentality and faith in the tsar-priest among many Russians, unfortunately, even the Soviet government could not completely exhaust.
                      1. -3
                        5 June 2020 06: 46
                        Quote: Greenwood
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        Putin’s vertical is better
                        The servile mentality and faith in the tsar-priest among many Russians, unfortunately, even the Soviet government could not completely exhaust.

                        Of 2 evils
                  2. +3
                    4 June 2020 19: 20
                    Quote: Keyser Soze
                    If all the children of patriots take power from the VO site, you will turn large stones into small stones, somewhere in Siberia ..

                    The funny thing is that in this case, among the first to go to Siberia, patriots from the VO site. smile
                    The revolution is how the god Saturn devours his children.
                    © Pierre Vikturnien Verno
                5. +16
                  4 June 2020 14: 16
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  when they colonize the moon

                  and why? laughing By the way, what did you mean - Лunu?
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  we can’t do anything else, and with such tendencies we won’t be able to

                  you speak for yourself - if you can not - sympathize ... feel

                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  And they just have far-reaching plans

                  yes, 9 years to a low orbit ...
                  1. -17
                    4 June 2020 14: 30
                    Quote: ser56
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    when they colonize the moon

                    and why? laughing By the way, what did you mean - Лunu?
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    we can’t do anything else, and with such tendencies we won’t be able to

                    you speak for yourself - if you can not - sympathize ... feel

                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    And they just have far-reaching plans

                    yes, 9 years to a low orbit ...

                    And what kind of orbit have we reached since 91? Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?
                    1. +13
                      4 June 2020 15: 48
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      And what kind of orbit have we reached since 91?


                      So far to the Lagrange point L2.

                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?


                      A lot of what. New leaky satellite platforms this time. New manned systems are two. New highly sensitive space devices are three. There are four new bio and technological materials. New information systems are five. laughing

                      You can continue further, but is it necessary? ....
                      1. -5
                        4 June 2020 20: 04
                        Quote: slipped
                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        And what kind of orbit have we reached since 91?


                        So far to the Lagrange point L2.

                        Quote: Vol4ara
                        Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?


                        A lot of what. New leaky satellite platforms this time. New manned systems are two. New highly sensitive space devices are three. There are four new bio and technological materials. New information systems are five. laughing

                        You can continue further, but is it necessary? ....

                        No further is not necessary, abstraction is enough, go through the indicated points and indicate which platforms, which manned systems
                        1. DVR
                          +5
                          4 June 2020 20: 15
                          Bye to Lagrange point L2

                          This is not an abstraction. Here, obviously, the X-ray telescope Spectrum-RG was meant. A very serious and unique project at the moment, read.
                        2. -6
                          4 June 2020 20: 18
                          Quote: DVR
                          Bye to Lagrange point L2

                          This is not an abstraction. Here, obviously, the X-ray telescope Spectrum-RG was meant. A very serious and unique project at the moment, read.

                          Ok, but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative
                        3. 0
                          4 June 2020 20: 40
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative

                          Do not voice your achievements? hi
                        4. -1
                          4 June 2020 21: 32
                          Quote: ser56
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative

                          Do not voice your achievements? hi

                          No problem. An average of 2 operations per day. Spinalniks about once a week. The rest of the time receptions. 5 through 2. I perform the functions assigned to me 100%
                        5. 0
                          4 June 2020 21: 41
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          I carry out the functions assigned to me 100%

                          those. didn’t come up with anything yourself? bully
                        6. -2
                          4 June 2020 21: 59
                          Quote: ser56
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          I carry out the functions assigned to me 100%

                          those. didn’t come up with anything yourself? bully

                          I came up with something myself
                        7. +1
                          4 June 2020 22: 01
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          I came up with something myself

                          so modest ... why so little? why not 10 pieces? laughing
                          is an analogy available? wink
                        8. +2
                          4 June 2020 22: 03
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          I came up with something myself

                          1) I have 26 patents of the Russian Federation ... feel
                          2) to answer the question with a question is not polite, but you are one of these wrestlers from the Russian Federation, therefore you did not expect another request
                        9. -2
                          4 June 2020 23: 44
                          Quote: ser56
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          I came up with something myself

                          1) I have 26 patents of the Russian Federation ... feel
                          2) to answer the question with a question is not polite, but you are one of these wrestlers from the Russian Federation, therefore you did not expect another request

                          I hope you do not need to explain that quantity is not synonymous with quality? He tried to defend the first dissertation by some kind of immunomodulator, he was small and stupid and sincerely believed in him, only then I realized what shit it was and in what ass Russian science was. however, if you are not a doctor, you will understand little. So you can read some patents out of boredom, you can become disabled from laughter.
                          Yes, I’m a fighter with the Russian Federation, I would love to see a socialist union on the site of this misfortune
                        10. +1
                          5 June 2020 13: 27
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          I hope you do not need to explain that quantity is not synonymous with quality?

                          and quantity goes into quality ... bully
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          consciousness what shit and in what ass is Russian science

                          ordinary song of losers ... request
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          you are not a doctor; you will understand little.

                          Well, why - I have patents for the delivery of drugs and radio-controlled substances ... feel
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          How to read some patents can be bored, you can become disabled from laughter.

                          write yours - super duper ... show class ... hi
                          Quote: Vol4ara
                          Yes, I’m a fighter with the Russian Federation, I would love to see a socialist union on the site of this misfortune

                          you are sorry, you just do not understand what the USSR is ... request this is when from banana gonorrhea 21 injections ... and now 1 tablet ... request This is when you have a salary of 120 and nutrition at the expense of the sick hi And the pharmacy simply DOESN’t need it at any price ... and the tomograph is only in the hospital at the authorities ...
                        11. DVR
                          0
                          4 June 2020 20: 51
                          Regarding 30 years, see my answer to your comment below. Although it is lower, it’s the previous one, and you could not help but see it. This is ignorance ... for a literate person.
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                        13. DVR
                          +1
                          4 June 2020 21: 12
                          Ok, but for 30 years it’s still not enough, everything is relative

                          In my comment at 17:04 I answered this if memory fails.
                          It is necessary to correlate "not enough" and real opportunities and needs in a particular period of historical development. When I was a child, I also read Belyaev and A. Tolstoy, and dreamed ... But it’s completely different when I grew up.
                    2. +2
                      4 June 2020 20: 39
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      Well, what have they done besides exploiting the inheritance of the USSR?

                      yes a lot of things - for example, they created GLONASS, restored the constellation of military satellites (see article), we are making a new type of spacecraft - with a nuclear power station and an ion engine ...
                      read ... hi
                6. 5-9
                  +2
                  4 June 2020 14: 35
                  If there is no breakthrough in the life expectancy of an ordinary person up to 150-200 years, at least, then no one will see this ...
                7. +3
                  4 June 2020 18: 25
                  About "colonizing the moon" ... it's something ... laughing
                  1. -5
                    4 June 2020 20: 07
                    Quote: Alex Nevs
                    About "colonizing the moon" ... it's something ... laughing

                    Aha

                    Unfortunately the picture is not correct, go down 2 points
                    1. DVR
                      0
                      4 June 2020 20: 41
                      Aha
                      Unfortunately the picture is not correct, go down 2 points

                      Here, the last 4 points are of fundamental importance, everything else has already been in the history of astronautics (only it was not Rad Dragon, Falcon Heavy, etc. were pioneers). Well, except for "landing without parachutes." This Soviet project was never implemented (for obvious reasons). Like now they want to reanimate, God forbid. Now it may not be the best moment to do such global super-expensive things. At one time, colossal resources were spent on the N-1. And in the 80s, too, they were led to the race, although this speaks more about the quality of the Soviet elite, which for a long time kept its nose to the (west) wind. This is not needed now, there are more pressing matters, we will do them - there will be time for such large-scale projects. Can't you, such a literate, understand such elementary things?
                      1. DVR
                        0
                        4 June 2020 21: 26
                        parachute free

                        To clarify. Of course, I meant "to land without parachutes" in the atmosphere, knowing what it was about. Not the Moon, of course, where they "sat" for a long time without parachutes.
                    2. 0
                      5 June 2020 08: 23
                      Why is the ISS international? Not? Cost not?
              2. Aag
                +1
                4 June 2020 19: 01
                ".. And the export of food from Russia to China is only increasing ..."
                At the same time, the number of agricultural products from China, and not only, does not decrease on our shelves. And domestic, only increases in price equivalent (to a greater extent than import).
                Why so fiercely minded the person who told the truth?
                There is no point in arguing about "high technologies", - we do not have reliable information (who has it, is silent, if not). It is possible and necessary to discuss. Without rabidness .. hi
            3. +8
              4 June 2020 13: 19
              Yesterday, in my opinion, there was news on VO that the Ministry of Defense ordered 4 Angara rockets from NPO Energia to launch satellites into geostationary orbit.
            4. DVR
              +11
              4 June 2020 13: 40
              AND? The telephone that you use is made in China, the weaving of your pants is made in China, the machines that print rubles are made in Germany, try to find in the store not Chinese or Egyptian garlic, not Israeli radish, half apples and those imports, the list goes on and on .

              It is not worth comparing radishes and cell phones with unique space technologies. This is a bad manners for such a competent person. Even if we are deprived of everything that you have listed, no tragedy will happen. Well, the quality and capabilities of gadgets will be worse.
              1. -14
                4 June 2020 14: 24
                Quote: DVR
                AND? The telephone that you use is made in China, the weaving of your pants is made in China, the machines that print rubles are made in Germany, try to find in the store not Chinese or Egyptian garlic, not Israeli radish, half apples and those imports, the list goes on and on .

                It is not worth comparing radishes and cell phones with unique space technologies. This is a bad manners for such a competent person. Even if we are deprived of everything that you have listed, no tragedy will happen. Well, the quality and capabilities of gadgets will be worse.

                These technologies are the legacy of a country that does not exist. Show me the technology of the Russian Federation. which we have developed from scratch? Have you heard anything about machine tools in the Russian Federation? Why is such a global dependence on cnc machines, without Simenovsky and Khokhlyatsky turbines, all plans for the fleet have risen. Why does China have its own station, but we don’t, why did they drown PEACE? Are we the first in space or is it just a candy wrapper? What have we done in space for 30 years, just name what we have been doing for 30 years except to exploit the legacy of the USSR, what developments? and all my disputes will immediately fall away.
                1. +10
                  4 June 2020 15: 18
                  Imagine about machine tool building, we heard, saw, and even bought from the same STAN - 200 different offices work in Russia to create and produce machine tools for various industries - but the client is always up to the client that suits him and he will buy our products on the machine tool market .
                2. DVR
                  +11
                  4 June 2020 17: 04
                  These technologies are the legacy of a country that does not exist.

                  I answered a similar question the other day. I will even give here that comment with small additions:
                  It would be interesting to hear from you what achievements have been noted by Russian cosmonautics since the beginning of the nineties, and comparisons with the achievements of the previous period.

                  What are you talking about, dear? Since the beginning of the nineties? In one of my previous comments, I already wrote that it was under such howls in the 90s that we lost the USSR, got criminal capitalism in the worst case scenario. Countries after this do not live. Fortunately, you do not need to go far for examples. Ukraine began its independence with huge potential in the field of aviation, space, and much more. And now there is nothing from the word at all. What space are crazy? The fate of peripheral criminal capitalism is not only the absence of outer space, but the absence of science and production as such, decay and degradation in all respects.
                  In a series of articles about the trampoline published here in recent days, there are comments that well describe Russia's achievements in the field of space technology. The network is also full of information, do not be lazy, read. Once again I say that those achievements that are are contrary to what happened in the beginning of the 90s. The necessary tasks are being solved in spite of corruption, nepotism, the degradation of science, etc., which, unfortunately, exist (they could not have been in the built system). They are being solved, because, thank God, there are still people who still do something, and do not whine on sites, like some who themselves are not capable of anything.

                  What we have done in space in 30 years, just name what we have been doing for 30 years

                  It is unclear why you and your like-minded people take the count from the 90th year. In the 91st we survived a grave disaster, suffered losses comparable to participation in a major military conflict. The West, on the contrary, raped a gesheft of comparable size in this disaster. Enterprises, design bureaus, institutes were closed and plundered by thousands. It is incorrect, in my opinion, to make such comparisons, especially for such a competent person. And, nevertheless, much has been done.

                  Show me the technology of the Russian Federation. which we have developed from scratch?

                  Why should the Russian Federation generally refuse to create and develop in the USSR? A frequently used trick, but explain why Russia, which is the legal successor, should abandon these developments? Many of the developments unfortunately are poached, but not using what they managed to save would be the height of idiocy and crime.

                  Have you heard anything about machine tools in the Russian Federation?

                  I heard. Not as much as we would like, but still I heard, even the other day I came across an article. https://maxpark.com/community/88/content/7139493
                  There is a lot of information on the net, I will not look for it all for you now. You just need to learn to see not only shitty.
                  https://maxpark.com/community/88/content/7139493

                  Why is such a global dependence on cnc machines, without Simenovsky and Khokhlyatsky turbines, all plans for the fleet have risen. Why does China have its own station, but we don’t, why did they drown PEACE? Are we the first in space or is it just a candy wrapper?

                  You want everything at once, but it doesn’t. Even in the mighty USSR it was not like that. For example, the USSR traditionally lagged behind in electronics, inferior in engines to military fighter aircraft. Now, by the way, Russia can outperform its competitors in this matter (Vol. 30 is being tested). But the USSR had much greater opportunities and resources. And the Soviet society was formed to achieve great goals, implement large and complex projects.
                  What can we say about the Russian Federation. Everything will not work right away, you need to do what is critically necessary, and then take on the rest. I don’t know about the WORLD account, but I’m thinking it’s not the right time to build my station at the moment. Not enough for all resources, there are more priority tasks. And yet we are in the ISS program, so far this is enough to maintain competencies. Regarding gas turbines, as far as I know, the issue has long been resolved.
                  Even here they wrote about this for a long time:
                  https://topwar.ru/114597-analiz-chem-gazoturbinnye-dvigateli-saturna-luchshe-gtd-zorya-mashproekt.html
                  or here
                  https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2018/09/14/11967469.shtml
                  And Ukrainian helicopter engines were replaced by our improved ones. And the development and production of such products are very difficult things. Few in the world can repeat in a relatively short time. Read more, a lot is being done, but more needs to be done.
              2. Aag
                0
                4 June 2020 19: 26
                "It's not good to compare radishes and cell phones to unique space technologies."
                I agree.
                "Even if we are deprived of everything you have listed, no tragedy will happen."
                Now this is a question.
                Because not all citizens are interested in "space technologies", but the absence of "radishes", or the availability of bread at 120 rubles / kg (with a "record wheat export"), will be noticed, noticed, felt by many.
                I do not dispute your arguments in terms of the achievements listed in the commentary (17.04). hi
                1. DVR
                  +4
                  4 June 2020 19: 46
                  Because not all citizens are interested in "space technologies", but the absence of "radishes", or the availability of bread at 120 rubles / kg (with a "record wheat export"), will be noticed, noticed, felt by many.

                  I don't see any special problems in terms of food security in the Russian Federation. And in case of interruption of supplies (which in itself is very unlikely) of one or another necessary (I do not mean ham) products, I am sure that local producers will compensate quite quickly. The retaliatory sanctions against Europe showed this. For example, the other day I took the cheese "Mont Blanc" of a domestic manufacturer (or Belarus, I don't remember, it does not change the essence of the matter) - I was delighted. And they don't just do it, but with all the subtleties of the recipe. As for bread at 120 r / kg, it is difficult to estimate now (I have never estimated bread in kg :) and, forgive me, I don’t want to go into it - I "relaxed a little after work, understand correctly)". Moreover, I try to respond to the comments of my opponents, and I sometimes get some long ones (answers). Slowly, life is waking up as the quarantine is weakening, although it was extended (but softened). Work paused, a little tired. Here are a couple of links opened for interest:
                  http://tsenomer.ru/produkti/hleb/
                  https://krsdstat.gks.ru/storage/mediabank/Ned03_pitanie_22.htm
                  Honestly, I did not see anything critical for most of the population. I myself have an average income. Of course, not enough for everything)
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            5. +5
              4 June 2020 15: 01
              Musk’s trends are such that for 30 years we haven’t done anything, nothing new at all, the WORLD drowned it, developed heavy missiles that they didn’t build, and as it turned out, nobody needs them, but they are trial and error,


              AAAAAAAAAAAA we all die !!! lol
              And this is all bad.
            6. +5
              4 June 2020 15: 11
              You generally saw what condition the world was at the time of its flooding - I advise you to look so that you would not write any dregs.
          3. +14
            4 June 2020 13: 12
            Quote: Nasr
            Who knows what else is in the same performance ...

            This is a big secret !!!! laughing Such a howl and scream stands as if the United States launched the first man into space 10 years later ...))) And our Russians from the ISS applaud with delight in the illuminator laughing
            PS The funniest thing is that these astronaut heroes were immediately harnessed to unload the cargo, etc. .. tongue
            1. 0
              4 June 2020 20: 09
              Well, the slave arrived on her ship - that’s unloaded.
        2. +14
          4 June 2020 13: 04
          Quote: Vol4ara
          Musk broke Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend

          Not a fact, especially in the first parameter. The funding structure is classified, a reasonable assumption is that the bulk of this is public funds and in reality this project is NOT commercially successful. But, knowing the arrogant Saxons, they will blow all the pipes, that this is purely commerce and they have overtaken all !!! Lies and marketing are the whole West. But about the trend did not understand?
      2. +3
        4 June 2020 12: 43
        Quote: orionvitt
        It is very strange to see such news.

        In my opinion, even in an article about Ilon, theirs, it was written that the military segment of the space program works for us, is being implemented.
        1. +2
          4 June 2020 12: 51
          Quote: rocket757
          that the military segment of the space program is working for us, is being implemented.


          It has always been like this ... Korolev launched his rockets in the hope of launching a man into space ...
          everything has its time...
          1. +4
            4 June 2020 13: 15
            Quote: Nasr
            It has always been like this ... Korolev launched his rockets in the hope of launching a man into space ...
            everything has its time...

            And nuclear weapons were created, in parallel, for peaceful purposes (nuclear power plants, icebreakers, etc.)
      3. -9
        4 June 2020 13: 34
        And where does Roskosmos to the VKS? It launches the VKS, only missiles from the RCC Progress are ordered.
        1. +8
          4 June 2020 14: 31
          Quote: Nemo
          And where does Roskosmos to the VKS? It launches the VKS, only missiles from the RCC Progress are ordered.


          RCC "Progress" is Roscosmos laughing
          1. -7
            4 June 2020 14: 48
            I separate the projectors like Rogozin from Roscosmos from the manufacturers that were pushed there.
            1. +5
              4 June 2020 15: 30
              Quote: Nemo
              I separate the projectors like Rogozin from Roscosmos from the manufacturers that were pushed there.


              Ah, well, its own virtual reality - well, cool, what. laughing
      4. -10
        4 June 2020 14: 03
        The joy is somewhat strange, considering that it is not Roskosmos but the military, and most likely from Plesetsk. And these are basic devices (albeit new) - performing the function of determining the fact of launch / ballistics, which has already been well developed over decades. And nothing else.
        Yes (probably) infrared cameras, optics have become more powerful, it is possible that they have improved the autonomy and the computing part, added noise immunity, etc. - but there is no breakthrough anywhere. Since 1979 "Oko" and further down the list, we have been doing this for 41 years already, some devices are replacing others.
        Zs from 2001-2008, the previous 4 SPRN satellites were hanging with us, so the time has come to change to the next 4. So this is the minimum by the way ..
        1. +7
          4 June 2020 14: 33
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          The joy is somewhat strange, considering that it is not Roskosmos but the military, and most likely from Plesetsk.


          one more.... lol At startups, representatives of the manufacturer are always present.

          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          For 41 years we have been doing this, some devices replace others.


          Four vehicles in orbit allow you to determine launches more reliably.

          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Zs from 2001-2008, the previous 4 SPRN satellites were hanging with us, so the time has come to change to the next 4. So this is the minimum by the way ..


          And there will be even more. laughing
      5. -3
        4 June 2020 15: 30
        Yes, but for some reason, he launched 60 pieces today, there the person writes above
      6. -4
        4 June 2020 16: 00
        Quote: orionvitt
        Musk tore up Roscosmos in all respects. laughing But no, everything goes on as usual. We'll also see who will laugh last.

        Well, it happens, let the farts sew up back ..)))) These are flowers so far ..
      7. +1
        4 June 2020 17: 28
        But because it is not proper to compare private traders and state corporations. Roscosmos fulfills, for the most part, government orders. As the state says to fly to Mars, Roscosmos will begin to work in this direction. In the meantime, the tasks are different.
    3. +7
      4 June 2020 12: 20
      This happens with the help of the latest infrared sensors installed on satellites. They can accurately determine the moment of launch of a rocket against the background of the earth's surface. These instruments also track the flight path and automatically calculate the estimated place of impact of missile warheads.

      Those. the satellite provides a processed start signal. Are primary data available on earth for re-testing or are they completely relying on satellite equipment?
      1. +4
        4 June 2020 12: 40
        At least, when the start signal arrives, all the "ears" immediately tense at the top of the head! Then the "fly" will not slip by unnoticed!
      2. +11
        4 June 2020 12: 53
        Quote: dzvero
        Are primary data available on earth for re-testing or are they completely relying on satellite equipment?

        This has never happened even in Soviet times, because this warning system works when we all overslept in the world. In fact, it is duplicated by over-the-horizon radar stations at the time of launch, which also works around the clock. But preparations for the launch itself are being monitored by other reconnaissance equipment, including strategic deployment systems and some intelligence systems of the armed forces.
    4. +4
      4 June 2020 12: 21
      More and more weapons appear in space. And these are not only warning satellites. I will not be surprised if in the near future, our designers return to the Buran project, or rather, they will develop the Soviet idea further.
      1. 0
        4 June 2020 12: 48
        Quote: NEXUS
        More and more weapons appear in space.

        Well, strictly speaking, the Dome is not a weapon.
        Although the news is certainly good. These are the successes of “Plesetsk”, but if the successes of “Vostochny” and “Baikonur” were just as pleasing, it would be great.
        1. +8
          4 June 2020 14: 42
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          These are the successes of “Plesetsk”, but if the successes of “Vostochny” and “Baikonur” were just as pleasing, it would be great.


          There were four launches from Baikonur, the next pair of launches from there in July - Progress MS-15 and a pair of Express communication satellites are flying. "Vostochny" is waiting for a payload from foreign customers, in June there was supposed to be a launch, but they are delayed indefinitely due to their circumstances. The launch of the new Glonass-K from Plesetsk also moved to July.
          1. -8
            4 June 2020 15: 20
            Quote: slipped
            - "Vostochny" is waiting for a payload from foreign customers

            Was "Eastern" built for this? Don't be fooled, Rosskosmos is in deep crisis.
            1. +10
              4 June 2020 15: 36
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Was "Eastern" built for this? Don't be fooled, Rosskosmos is in deep crisis.


              Especially for you a photo from the MIC of the Vostochny cosmodrome with assembled packages of missiles awaiting launch laughing :



              1. -8
                4 June 2020 15: 48
                Quote: slipped

                Especially for you, a photo from the MIC of the Vostochny cosmodrome with assembled packages of rockets awaiting launch laughing:

                Thanks for the photo.
                And for how many years will these "missile packages" be kept in the MIC?
                And why are they lying and not flying? No money for fuel? After all, the products, as I understand it, are ready.
                1. +11
                  4 June 2020 15: 54
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Thanks for the photo.


                  Pzhlsta.

                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  And for how many years will these "missile packages" be kept in the MIC?


                  Launches of these missiles have already been paid by the customer - these are commercial missiles. As a foreign customer determines its payload, they will fly. While they are in storage - this allows a guarantee.

                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  No money for fuel?


                  Smiled. laughing There was no money for fuel in the 90s. Now this is in full order.

                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  products, as I understand it, are ready.


                  Rockets for domestic spacecraft have also been delivered, but not assembled (in the photo, their steps are in covers), since domestic manufacturers launching their spacecraft from Vostochny are only assembling these devices.
                  1. -7
                    4 June 2020 16: 13
                    Quote: slipped

                    Launches of these missiles have already been paid by the customer - these are commercial missiles. As a foreign customer determines its payload, they will fly.

                    Was Vostochny built for them? How many years ago was the launch pad ready? How many missiles did Russia launch from it? request
                    Quote: slipped

                    Smiled. laughing Money for fuel was not in the 90s. Now this is in full order.

                    Though here pleased. laughing
                    Quote: slipped

                    Rockets for domestic spacecraft have also been delivered, but not assembled (in the photo, their steps are in covers), since domestic manufacturers launching their spacecraft from Vostochny are only assembling these devices.

                    Why? Am I so wrong that it is a crisis. That Roscosmos is in deep opera?
                    1. +7
                      4 June 2020 16: 58
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      Was Vostochny built for them? How many years ago was the launch pad ready? How many missiles did Russia launch from it? request


                      No, not only. laughing At the end of 2016. Five Soyuz-2 missiles.

                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      Why?


                      Because from the Vostochny cosmodrome, from the C1 launch pad, only VNIIEM corporation products can be launched today. This is due to the fact that at the cosmodrome there are still no or only technical places are being created for servicing the products of other domestic satellite builders, the NPO named after Lavochkin or the ISS named after Reshetnev. The first has only equipped places for working with the "Frigates", the second is only going to launch its own spacecraft from the "Vostochny." But the company "Gazprom: Space Systems" has only recently begun construction of its plant, the plant will be ready in mid-2022, and it immediately directs its products to "Vostochny".
                      1. 0
                        4 June 2020 18: 03
                        Quote: slipped
                        slipped

                        Thanks for the encouraging information.
          2. -5
            4 June 2020 15: 29
            Quote: slipped
            but they are delayed indefinitely due to their circumstances

            You didn’t answer me so, who do you work in Roskosmos?
            1. +6
              4 June 2020 15: 37
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              You didn’t answer me so, who do you work in Roskosmos?


              I answered you, look earlier. laughing
              1. -2
                4 June 2020 20: 24
                Quote: slipped
                look earlier.

                Ah, purogon! laughing
                1. +1
                  4 June 2020 22: 17
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Ah, purogon! laughing


                  do you throw poop? lol Oh well
      2. +2
        4 June 2020 13: 18
        Quote: NEXUS
        I will not be surprised if in the near future, our designers return to the Buran project, or rather, they will develop the Soviet idea further.

        Already started, but this is not an arms race will be .. And just in case!
        Developments are available, just to raise the level of it.d.
        Infa such slips, but very quietly and carefully .. And then the howl will rise the universe. hi
        Quote: rocket757
        . All who are supposed to understand this perfectly

        Ivse is a shame, for such harassment of everything and everyone ..
        1. -4
          4 June 2020 15: 48
          Quote: Samara
          Ivse is a shame, for such harassment of everything and everyone

          Ah Samara town .. laughing negative
    5. DVR
      +11
      4 June 2020 12: 24
      He spoke about this the other day. The necessary tasks are being solved ... which cannot but rejoice.
      In response, as a rule - cons and no counterarguments)
      1. +4
        4 June 2020 12: 38
        Quote: DVR
        In response, as a rule -

        This is how to say ... then, the most "active, energized" sho give that bright, victorious! And our work was quiet, imperceptible ... if you don't come close to the antennas !!! ... and much needed. Everyone who is supposed to understand this perfectly well soldier
    6. +4
      4 June 2020 12: 32
      The good news
    7. +6
      4 June 2020 12: 34
      The more lines of intelligence - control, the better, of course!
      This is pleasing, also because all this is very, very close and familiar ... was soldier
    8. +2
      4 June 2020 12: 53
      Similar systems even under the Soviet Union were, slowly updating the constellation of orbiting satellites from obsolete to new ones, which cannot but rejoice)) good
    9. +5
      4 June 2020 12: 54
      -Alexander: Musk broke the Roskosmos only in 2 positions, this is the cost of launch and the trend.
      NASA has signed a $ 2 billion contract for 15 missions with the SpaceX campaign. Given the availability of 4 seats, the cost of the flight of one astronaut
      costs 33 million dollars against 80. which Rogozin "tore".
      ATTENTION-Russian triple ship "Soyuz". Its cost is about $ 30 million, plus another $ 50 million (no more) is the cost of the Soyuz 2.1 carrier and the Frigate upper stage. In total, about 80 million dollars for three. And this, taking into account the profits of manufacturers,
      As a result, 26 ...- 27 million dollars per person.
      1. 5-9
        +3
        4 June 2020 14: 39
        It’s still if you plant 4 times in the Dragon every time ... which may just not be necessary.
        And it seems like about 500 lyam for the launch was ...
        1. -2
          4 June 2020 15: 25
          Dragon 2 ship is reusable - and the Union is not reusable in the first, this is already a significant savings. And Mask advertising is several orders of magnitude better than Roskosmos - this is also a significant contribution to success in attracting customers.
          1. 5-9
            +4
            4 June 2020 15: 51
            It was about the launch price and the place ... what's the difference a lot or one? Dragon has this in view of its reusability.
            And firing people with the help of the first beush step and on the beush ship is somehow not Christian .... the only practice will show the absence of the effect of reusability on safety.
            1. -1
              4 June 2020 20: 13
              Already in Khrestian, or rather, more profitable, than to build a new ship and a new first step.
      2. +7
        4 June 2020 15: 28
        Quote: knn54
        NASA has signed a $ 2 billion contract for 15 missions with the SpaceX campaign. Given the availability of 4 seats, the cost of the flight of one astronaut
        costs 33 million dollars against 80. which Rogozin "tore".


        the cost of a seat for a commercial flight on the Dragon, according to SpaceX, is $ 55 million (no one has flown yet)
        the cost of a chair for a commercial flight on the Soyuz MS according to Forbes ~ $ 40 million (Arab cosmonaut al-Mansuri, 2019)
        The cost of the Soyuz MS commercial spacecraft for autonomous flight with one Russian cosmonaut and two passengers by Space Adventures has not been made public, but previously such a route was estimated at $ 30-40 million per seat.

        Quote: knn54
        ATTENTION-Russian triple ship "Soyuz". Its cost is about $ 30 million, plus another $ 50 million (no more) is the cost of the Soyuz 2.1 carrier and the Frigate upper stage.


        According to the Spaceflightnow website, the cost of the Soyuz MS-16 TPK is 2,373,245,900 rubles. the cost of the Soyuz-2.1a rocket is 1,218,126,370 rubles, the cost of the head fairing is 80,758,790 rubles.

        The total cost of iron is 3,672,131,060 rubles.

        "Fregat" is not included in the cost of manned launches because it is not used in them at all.

        Quote: knn54
        In total, about 80 million dollars for three. And this, taking into account the profits of manufacturers,


        The dollar at the rate of ~ 70 rubles. laughing

        The cost of launching a manned ship adds the cost of work to ensure a manned launch.
        1. 0
          4 June 2020 20: 16
          For Americans, Roscosmos has lifted the price tag up to 90 million for one place in the Union - so now they will fly exclusively on Dragons 2 and there Starliner will catch up. But for every NASA firefighter, places in the Union until the age of 22 were reserved.
          1. +1
            4 June 2020 22: 23
            Quote: Vadim237
            For Americans, Roscosmos has lifted the price tag to 90 million for one place in the Union - so now they will fly exclusively on Dragons 2


            And why should they fly in the Unions if their ship is available? laughing Let them fly on it - we are not against it, we are even for it - the second transport system has long been needed, we will soon need to return the third member of the ISS Russian crew to the station.

            Quote: Vadim237
            and then Starliner will catch up. But for every NASA firefighter, places in the Union until the age of 22 were reserved.


            For money and delivery of our goods.
    10. +3
      4 June 2020 12: 57
      Great news. The thing is not superfluous, but the developed competencies are my respect.
    11. -2
      4 June 2020 13: 21
      Why is monitoring only the territory of the United States? They have a lot of bases all over the world
      1. Aag
        0
        4 June 2020 19: 43
        Quote: Hydrogen
        Why is monitoring only the territory of the United States? They have a lot of bases all over the world

        It’s interesting, why did you get minuses? For an uncomfortable question? Well, if you just wrote: do not rush, everything will be a bit later ...
    12. -9
      4 June 2020 13: 40
      in Russia or its allies

      Are there still those, have we not yet dispersed everyone? Who else is there? Aw!
      We still have one strong ally - Kadyrov (without a republic). So it seems to be part of Russia.
      1. +2
        4 June 2020 13: 54
        Of course, the CSTO remained
        1. -10
          4 June 2020 14: 15
          Yes yes yes of course. I completely forgot about such allies. So we are fraternally, alliedly, before each new year, we close the valve on the pipe, so to speak, to strengthen friendship.
        2. 0
          4 June 2020 15: 26
          The CSTO is one for all and each for itself on the same principle, and all of NATO is built in the case of a military star.
    13. -5
      4 June 2020 13: 47
      the main danger of a missile attack comes from submarines .... controlling them is problematic ...
      1. Aag
        0
        4 June 2020 19: 46
        Quote: Pvi1206
        the main danger of a missile attack comes from submarines .... controlling them is problematic ...

        You do not see from the experience of previous commentators that such questions are punishable by minuses?
        Quote: AAG
        Quote: Hydrogen
        Why is monitoring only the territory of the United States? They have a lot of bases all over the world

        It’s interesting, why did you get minuses? For an uncomfortable question? Well, if you just wrote: do not rush, everything will be a bit later ...
        1. 0
          4 June 2020 20: 00
          the opinion of others is not important for me ... I do not pursue the pluses ... I once participated in the creation of the SPRN ...
          1. Aag
            0
            4 June 2020 20: 17
            Quote: Pvi1206
            the opinion of others is not important for me ... I do not pursue the pluses ... I once participated in the creation of the SPRN ...

            I appreciate. But I'm interested in the motivation of people minus the quite adequate questions, on the topic, without provocation and ernichenie. hi
    14. +8
      4 June 2020 13: 55
      And what, the touring troupe of the Theater of Song and Dance "everything is lost" did not appear in the commentary? And we just got used to their mournful romances "again leaked everything" and "it is not clear what we are doing" ...
      lol lol lol
    15. +3
      4 June 2020 14: 05
      Finally! It is high time.
    16. +3
      4 June 2020 14: 10
      Orbit "Tundra".
      The Tundra orbit is one of the types of a high elliptical orbit with an inclination of 63,4 ° and a period of revolution on a starry day (4 minutes less than a sunny day). The spacecraft located in this orbit are in geosynchronous orbit. The orbit of such a spacecraft will resemble an eight.
      The Tundra orbit is based on the same principles as the other highly elliptical orbit - the Lightning orbit. Due to the high angle of inclination, the Tundra orbit is advantageous to use in latitudes above 50 °. Depending on the pericenter argument (ω), the orbit can serve both the northern (ω = 270 °) and southern (ω = 90 °) hemispheres.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Орбита_«Тундра»
      1. +1
        4 June 2020 14: 27
        http://lib.tssonline.ru/articles2/sputnik/modifikatsiya-orbity-tundra-dlya-obsluzhivaniya-territorii-rossii-i-analiz-ee-ustoychivosti
    17. +9
      4 June 2020 14: 12
      Statistics for 2019
      In 2019, EKA completed 9 starts, including 1 emergency.
      Roscosmos -25 (all trouble-free).
      USA - 21.
      China - 34 (2 emergency).
      Such is the efficiency in comparison.
      The period without emergency launches of Roscosmos is 1 year and 8 months. In total - 35. This is a record for the entire post-Soviet period.
    18. -9
      4 June 2020 14: 44
      This is of course a very revealing example, especially for the patriots, who here organized bacchanalia on the Mask. Everything is wonderful in Russia with space technology. It is important to ensure quality management of the field. Compare: Rogozin / MO.
      At the same time, Rogozin has been spoiling the space program for many years, before he had already harmed the military-technical development, but from this direction he managed to be removed, thank God.
      1. +4
        4 June 2020 16: 29
        Quote: codetalker
        Everything is wonderful in Russia with space technology.


        There are problems who do not have them? laughing This year, the Chinese dropped two vehicles, the United States dropped one, but it’s like that .... there the first launch of the carrier was even a private trader. ESA closed its cosmodrome for half a year, stopping all its programs and evacuating personnel.

        Quote: codetalker
        It is important to ensure quality management of the field. Compare: Rogozin / MO.


        Are you proposing to Rogozin again to wear uniforms throughout the industry? laughing

        Quote: codetalker
        At the same time, Rogozin has been spoiling the space program for many years,


        But from now on pzhlst in more detail, when and where? Or is this an allegation?

        Quote: codetalker
        previously even harmed military-technical development, but from this direction it was possible to remove it, thank God.


        Grandmother prevented sawing? Can I go now? laughing
        1. -4
          4 June 2020 18: 26
          You then study his activities a little, especially when he was deputy prime minister. There are nowhere to put stigmas on.
          1. +4
            4 June 2020 18: 37
            Quote: codetalker
            You then study his activities a little, especially when he was deputy prime minister. There are nowhere to put stigmas on.


            Give the link - I’ll study. winked I have something to compare. laughing
    19. +3
      4 June 2020 15: 22
      The Russian Taiga spacecraft are combined into a single space system (CEN) called the Dome.

      Conclusion into the Earth orbit of the Tundra satellite

      Good news, of course!
      But, damn it, "Tundra" or "Taiga"? Or are they different devices, but in one bundle?
    20. -11
      4 June 2020 15: 25
      It is strange to read comments where Mask, Roscosmos and the Cosmos Study itself are intertwined :)
      The guys in the SGA space are ahead of the rest of the planet and this is a fact, then comes China, Europe, and then the Russian Federation either goes near or behind Japan
      1. +7
        4 June 2020 16: 41
        Quote: Voletsky
        The guys in the SGA space are ahead of the rest and this is a fact


        For AMC and investing in space projects, I agree laughing

        Quote: Voletsky
        then comes China, Europe, and only then, next to or next to Japan, is the Russian Federation


        China has not yet learned how to make modern rocket and space technology and is doing it as it can, collecting or simply stealing technology from the world. Europe buys space products from Russia because in some areas they are cheaper and more technologically advanced than European ones. Russia is also gaining a payload from Europe for modern platforms. China and America, by the way, also buy from Europe and Russia. Japan focuses on the United States - their domestic cosmonautics is entirely dependent on the wishes of the older brother.
        1. -7
          4 June 2020 16: 45
          Quote: slipped
          For AMC and investing in space projects, I agree

          Perhaps, in Russia, there is something other than rocket science left? :) We take Wikipedia and compare the number of research projects completed ... What will we see there?! :)
          We can take the main players, SGA, China, EU, Japan

          rocket science is part of the development of the military-industrial complex, with the military-industrial complex in the Russian Federation, everything is openwork ... But it is only indirectly related to the study and development of space.
          1. +8
            4 June 2020 17: 03
            Quote: Voletsky
            Perhaps, in Russia, is there anything left besides rocket science? :)


            Not only "remained", but new systems appear. For example, the news - recently began the modernization of the tower of the optical solar telescope IZMIRAN in Troitsk. New modern equipment will be installed to work with spacecraft of the Intergeliozond space project.

            Quote: Voletsky
            We take Wikipedia and compare the number of research projects completed ... What will we see there?! :)


            What will you see there? belay List the pozhlsta "the number of research projects completed from Wikipedia" in Russia. I'm even interested myself. laughing
            1. -5
              4 June 2020 17: 11
              Consider them not there :) having done research and going to the links, I basically came across a good old shift to the right :) I certainly got excited about the Wikipedia account, but the English version seems to be more saturated


              here you can familiarize yourself, maybe raise your mood, or lower yourself :) Depending on your requirements
              https://www.roscosmos.ru/22888/
              1. +3
                4 June 2020 17: 13
                Quote: Voletsky
                Consider them not there :)


                Those. you merge lol getting off with common phrases and can’t list? Or do not want to? laughing
                1. -6
                  4 June 2020 17: 18
                  Venus-D - shift to the right
                  Interhelioprobe - shift to the right
                  Return-MCA - shift to the right
                  Millimetron - shift to the right
                  astrometry - shift to the right
                  Or should you list everything? :)
                  Roscosmos is a competitor Mask, yes ... The mask to Roscosmos 30 swim by shit, but it’s neither a Chinese space program, nor an American national


                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:NASA_programs
                  1. +4
                    4 June 2020 17: 20
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    Venus-D ....
                    Or should you list everything? :)


                    Why are you issuing a list of planned projects? You yourself said - completed projects. What is the list of completed projects since 1991? And you give me a list of future ones. Ugly even somehow. laughing
                    1. -6
                      4 June 2020 17: 21
                      All done - this is Earth exploration, of course it’s good for business, but this is not space exploration
                      1. +4
                        4 June 2020 17: 23
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        All done is Earth exploration


                        Merging again? laughing So your statement is false? Or Wikipedia says that "this is a reconnaissance of the Earth" - give a link to pzhlsta.

                        Or are you just stupidly doing crap? lol
                        1. -8
                          4 June 2020 17: 25
                          Are you a troll?! :) Or a fool ?!
                          And they are not planned, they had to be launched for a long time, and long been operated

                          this generalization was, TUS-M, for example, for studying the atmosphere, there are instruments for geological exploration, there are communication satellites .... all this is local.

                          Where is the observatory for example ?! Any analogue to the Web or old Habl ?!

                          I gave you a direct link to Roskosmos, and not the wiki there, all of their projects are indicated.
                        2. +5
                          4 June 2020 17: 38
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          Are you a troll?! :) Or a fool ?!


                          Wai, I asked a simple question, you’ll talk too much .... and he will call names laughing

                          Quote: Voletsky
                          And they are not planned, they had to be launched for a long time, and long been operated


                          These are future projects, work on them goes as far as possible.

                          Quote: Voletsky
                          this generalization was, TUS-M, for example, for studying the atmosphere, there are instruments for geological exploration, there are communication satellites .... all this is local.


                          You should have listed me completed projects from wikipedia and more. Why are you telling me about remote sensing systems?

                          Quote: Voletsky
                          Where is the observatory for example ?! Any analogue to the Web or old Habl ?!


                          And why are there analogues if there is a Hubl or is it planned to be Webb? Do they stupidly repeat? Why, the point? The Hubble’s work has long been the property of the entire world community, as well as the work of our space telescope interferometer with an extra-long base - the Radiastron.

                          Quote: Voletsky
                          I gave you a direct link to Roskosmos, and not the wiki there, all of their projects are indicated.


                          You since 1991 give that. Right by the list. laughing And I’ll look and maybe I’ll add if Wikipedia lied with you.
                        3. -6
                          4 June 2020 17: 40
                          Quote: slipped
                          You since 1991 give that. Right by the list. And I’ll look and maybe I’ll add if Wikipedia lied with you.

                          There is not a damn thing on Wikipedia, I issued a link to Roskosmos there all the projects there, forgot how to read ?!

                          James Webb - Webb ?! :))))
                          W - Yeah, but could he have a smart ride?
                        4. +4
                          4 June 2020 17: 44
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          We take Wikipedia and compare the number of research projects completed ...


                          Quote: Voletsky
                          There isn't a damn thing on Wikipedia


                          Oops Oh well. Here it is - this Wikipedia. If necessary, then no. But to be honest, that is, in secret - I spied laughing
                        5. -4
                          4 June 2020 17: 46
                          Quote: slipped
                          Oops Oh well. Here it is - this Wikipedia. If necessary, then no. But to be honest, that is, in secret - I spied

                          there is about amers on the wiki, but there is not a damn thing about the Chinese, something about EU projects .... I probably should have written, google; here yes I agree.

                          Wiki is a very strange resource for selecting information (often there are newspaper ducks transferred to the wiki) ... but we are not talking about it. And about the fact that the Russian Federation is no longer a space power, so a 3-4 star player
                        6. +5
                          4 June 2020 17: 51
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          there is about amers on the wiki, but there is not a damn thing about the Chinese, something about EU projects .... I probably should have written, google; here yes I agree.


                          And it’s better not to look in there, but to scientists that are directly involved in research projects, read what and how, it is true there until 2015 http://iki.cosmos.ru/books/2015booklet_iki50.pdf But I think about the work in the last five years, you can ask me, I’ll tell you not a problem.
                        7. -4
                          4 June 2020 17: 56
                          Yes, I look at them as much as possible :) It’s not related to work, it’s more personal interest .... I’m more angry about something that slipped from the first to the 3-4th place, and Rogozin the goat Khrushche reminds me very much :)
                        8. +4
                          4 June 2020 18: 04
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          I’m more angry about the fact that they slipped from the first to 3-4 places


                          We were the first in the USSR, for even more money was invested than the United States. The USSR has long been gone. We are doing what we can do now for the money that we have.
                        9. -4
                          4 June 2020 18: 10
                          And there will be no more such a country; well, since you are so tied up there, convince me already, that Rogozin is not a copy of the bald chmyr, that he killed with a boot of cockroaches on the UN rostrum, and that everything improved dramatically over the 2 years of his reign
                        10. +3
                          4 June 2020 18: 31
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          convince me already that Rogozin is not a copy .... and that over the 2 years of his reign, everything has dramatically improved


                          Frankly tired of persuading. laughing It’s easy to raise the RESULTS of the 2018-2019 year on the Roskosmos website and read what and how.
                        11. -3
                          4 June 2020 18: 32
                          he only managed to come, and these are old developments; Aral Sea goat also didn’t immediately multiply by 0
                        12. +3
                          4 June 2020 17: 54
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          James Webb - Webb ?! :))))
                          W - Yeah, but could he have a smart ride?


                          And what is more correct Watson or Watson? lol Just like in / in Ukraine, by golly laughing Neighing. Non-Russian chtol?
                        13. -3
                          4 June 2020 18: 01
                          Quote: slipped
                          And how is more correct

                          more correctly the texas ranger walker
                        14. +3
                          4 June 2020 18: 34
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          more correctly the texas ranger walker


                          Englishism enters the Russian language brown laughing, and on the other hand, the Russian word "fuck" after the video salons of the 80s with American cinema has radically changed its meaning for Russians laughing But this is offtopic nonsense.
                        15. -6
                          4 June 2020 17: 37
                          I then my own words about the fact that the Russian Federation at the level of Japan to study and promote space technology can; and you’re an ordinary hat-thrower, and the maximum you can tell me that Mask has rockets that are less technologically advanced, but there Mask is an ordinary PR manager, and not the country that first launched man into space, and the first to launch space exploration :)
                        16. +6
                          4 June 2020 18: 00
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          I then my own words about the fact that the Russian Federation at the level of Japan to study and promote space technology can;


                          Is Japan able to launch its astronauts into space? No.

                          Quote: Voletsky
                          and you’re an ordinary hat-thrower, and the maximum you can tell me that Mask has rockets that are less technologically advanced, but there Mask is an ordinary PR manager, and not the country that first launched man into space, and the first to launch space exploration :)


                          belay He decided everything for me. Abaldet. Yes, I don’t want to tell you anything, read the booklet, he will tell you everything himself. laughing
                        17. -5
                          4 June 2020 18: 03
                          Quote: slipped
                          Is Japan able to launch its astronauts into space? No.

                          pimple mask provides this function as needed
                        18. +4
                          4 June 2020 18: 10
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          pimple mask provides this function as needed


                          Musk lives in Japan ???? belay Konichi-va Maska-san. laughing

                          But seriously, the last four Japanese astronauts made it to the ISS exclusively on Soyuz MS.
                        19. -2
                          4 June 2020 20: 14
                          Quote: slipped
                          But seriously, the last four Japanese astronauts made it to the ISS exclusively on Soyuz MS.

                          and what should they have been ?!
                        20. +2
                          4 June 2020 22: 30
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          and what should they have been ?!


                          On a trampoline laughing But seriously - then the next Japanese astronaut that was supposed to fly, they flew, they have such cooperation with the Allies according to their rules and quota.
                        21. -1
                          4 June 2020 22: 46
                          Quote: slipped
                          On a state trampoline But seriously - then the next Japanese astronaut that was supposed to fly, they flew, they have such cooperation with the Allies according to their rules and quota.

                          person to person a wolf, or did I miss something? :)
                        22. +3
                          4 June 2020 22: 53
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          person to person a wolf, or did I miss something? :)


                          Yes, I duplicated, duplicated .... Yes, I duplicated .... request

                        23. Aag
                          0
                          4 June 2020 20: 12
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          Quote: slipped
                          Is Japan able to launch its astronauts into space? No.

                          pimple mask provides this function as needed

                          I got the impression that you are both educated people, but you’ll sing, how to say ... Who is cooler: an academic without a driver’s license, or a driver who carries him. Can the academic adjust carburetor?
                          Now we have reached the citizenship of the "taxi driver"! ... drinks
                        24. -2
                          4 June 2020 20: 22
                          I hate Rogozin, for his epic vidos, and 1v1 friends as he is :)
                        25. +3
                          4 June 2020 22: 46
                          Quote: Voletsky
                          I hate Rogozin, for his epic vidos, and 1v1 friends as he is :)


                          "Well, and your neighbor, they are taking away the villain, because he looks like Beria ..." lol
                        26. -1
                          4 June 2020 22: 49
                          no because of him, they piss me off - because I'm not Rogozin, I can’t afford to change the terms :)
                        27. -1
                          4 June 2020 23: 16
                          why did you write this nonsense!?

                          I have this deer, one question, what the hell are you promising, what can’t guarantee, he really thinks that he will promise and everything will be done, but in the service of which he will fall in love with everyone?! :) No, he won’t fall in love only as a speaker his head will shout in the background, and Pavlensky will be hired for a performance to suit him under the doors

                          or stop, am I also mistaken here?! :)
                        28. -3
                          4 June 2020 21: 44
                          I know who this Rogozin chekushka is, the bosses are nearby, running around like crazy running around, showing activity all laurels to himself, jambs on colleagues and problems on the team; but like that I'm not me and not a bunch of mine.
                          Let the artist Pavlensky shit under the door, make a performance.
                          ps
                          if I adjust the carburetor, what will happen?! :)))))
                        29. +1
                          4 June 2020 22: 26
                          Quote: AAG
                          Now we have reached the citizenship of the "taxi driver"! ... drinks


                          Do you also think that he is Japanese ?! belay
                        30. 0
                          4 June 2020 20: 20
                          Achievement of Japan in the space sector is a spacecraft landing and taking off from an asteroid and a truck sent to the ISS.
                        31. -2
                          4 June 2020 20: 23
                          Quote: Vadim237
                          Achievement of Japan in the space sector is a spacecraft landing and taking off from an asteroid and a truck sent to the ISS.

                          Well, we don’t have that either.
                        32. +2
                          4 June 2020 22: 50
                          Quote: mordvin xnumx
                          Quote: Vadim237
                          Achievement of Japan in the space sector is a spacecraft landing and taking off from an asteroid and a truck sent to the ISS.

                          Well, we don’t have that either.


                          We have 76 trucks flying to the ISS in July. laughing
    21. +1
      4 June 2020 16: 50
      Why was it necessary to destroy the "Volna" type over-the-horizon detection radar? There were such developments, Plisetsk is resting.
      1. +1
        4 June 2020 19: 32
        Quote: st2st
        Why was it necessary to destroy the "Volna" type over-the-horizon detection radar? There were such developments, Plisetsk is resting.

        And when was it destroyed?
        In addition, Volna has a design bureau Dneprovskoe among its developers, and the manufacturer is Dneprovsky Machine-Building Plant.
        1. 0
          5 June 2020 01: 32
          Alexey, they destroyed the antenna in 2001, and in 1992 it worked properly. We had two such stations. One in Ukraine, the second in Primorye. Find -5. And I still remember the command on the speakerphone: "readiness for a foreigner". 170 officers, 60 sailors and foremen. , a military town (five-story building, two two-story buildings, six barracks), and a bunch of buildings for everyday life. And, it lived in itself. zone, about those zones, generally keep quiet. But, our Western partners told the guarantor that the radar threatens our friendship with the mattress mats, and the guarantor, having done it, closed the station.
      2. +1
        4 June 2020 20: 22
        Now Containers and Voronezh set.
        1. 0
          5 June 2020 01: 50
          Vadim, "Voronezh" and did not stand next to "Volna". "Waves" coverage field up to 2000 km. Voronezh has much less.
    22. +3
      4 June 2020 18: 01
      Good news. It is a pity that so far only the 4th (the first product 14F142 was put into orbit in 2015), for the full functioning of the system it was originally required 10, and they should have all been launched by ... 2020.
      1. +3
        4 June 2020 18: 39
        Quote: Blue Fox
        Good news. It is a pity that so far only the 4th (the first product 14F142 was put into orbit in 2015), for the full functioning of the system it was originally required 10, and they should have all been launched by ... 2020.


        So sanctions on the purchase of advanced imported komplektuhi. I have to create my own. And it is not clear whether it is good or bad and I want even more sanctions. laughing
      2. -1
        5 June 2020 00: 16
        Duc, as elsewhere, sawed off 60%, so instead of 10 satellites - 4.
    23. 0
      4 June 2020 22: 38
      Finally, the word sounded done, but will not be launched! I look forward to continuing.
    24. -1
      5 June 2020 00: 52
      Quote: slipped
      Yes, I duplicated, duplicated .... Yes, I duplicated ....

      stop, I am critical of ours :) I'm not from the sect of witnesses Ilona Mask
      for work, brothers :) I want to see something else ... but yes, the requirements are too high; but Natsik, that tells me tales I don’t want to see
    25. 0
      5 June 2020 12: 14
      So devices "Taiga" or "Tundra" ??? And so in everything .....................................

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