Russian Embassy Confirms Delivery of Another MiG-29 Lot to Syria

The Syrian military received a second batch of upgraded MiG-29 fighters. The exact number of aircraft received is not known.

This was announced yesterday by the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Damascus on its Twitter page.

The aircraft were received as part of military-technical cooperation between Russia and the Syrian Arab Republic. The diplomatic mission notes that the Syrian pilots have already begun to master the received equipment:

The Syrians are already starting to carry out missions on these aircraft.

Actually, for them it was not difficult, because by the beginning of the civil war, government troops already had dozens of such military vehicles. They were supplied to the Syrians by the Soviet Union since the mid-80s of the last century.

The supply of Russian fighters to Syria on May 30 was reported by the local news agency SANA. The solemn ceremony of transferring the aircraft to the Syrian pilots took place at the Khmeimim airbase, after which the MiG-29 was transferred to the air forces of the SAR. And already on June 1, local pilots were supposed to begin combat missions in the sky over Syria on new fighters.

To date, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have two military bases in Syria: aviation in Hmeimim and the naval in Tartus.

Recall that earlier in the African military command the United States accused Russia of putting its MiG-29s at the air base in Syria, it “repainted” them and allegedly sent to Al-Dzhufra (Libya).

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[yfast]

"Recall that earlier in the African military command, the US accused Russia of putting its MiG-29s at an airbase in Syria," repainted "them and allegedly sent them to Al-Jufra (Libya)."
And Russia cut off the pilots at the same time, so that if they were to disguise themselves, they were to be masked.

[Civil]

The main thing is to pay with money, and not with a warm Middle Eastern handshake.

[Wolverine]

Quote: Civil

The main thing is to pay with money, and not with a warm Middle Eastern handshake.

In fact, money has nothing to do with it, here is a strategic move - at first strengthening and expanding the base, now the delivery of airplanes is a link in one chain, preparation for the mess which is being prepared by the countrymen in the Middle East.

[Civil]

Quote: Wolverine

strategic move - at first strengthening and expanding the base, now the delivery of aircraft is a link in one chain, preparation for the collapse

What is this for Russia? What for the sake of spending? Who will receive money from this.

[Wolverine]

Quote: Civil

Quote: Wolverine

strategic move - at first strengthening and expanding the base, now the delivery of aircraft is a link in one chain, preparation for the collapse

What is this for Russia? What for the sake of spending? Who will receive money from this.

In order for some hotheads to have to reckon with us before doing any hasty actions in the Middle East, which is expensive.

[Civil]

Quote: Wolverine

In order for some hotheads to have to reckon with us before doing any hasty actions in the Middle East, which is expensive.

Well, it was calculated, then what, where is the benefit? Do not bother - speak directly.

[Wolverine]

Quote: Civil

Quote: Wolverine

In order for some hotheads to have to reckon with us before doing any hasty actions in the Middle East, which is expensive.

Well, it was calculated, then what, where is the benefit? Do not bother - speak directly.

Well, it’s much more direct - geopolitics, there is a redivision of the world as in 47 under Stalin, who will rule and command a parade in the Middle East will be engaged in redivision of the world, therefore Russia is there and is strengthening its influence.

[Civil]

Quote: Wolverine

Well, much more direct - geopolitics, there is a redivision of the world as in 47 under Stalin,

Stalin defended the rights of workers and peasants, the socialist system. Against the capitalists. Capitalism as a system. It was a confrontation of ideologies.
And here you have capitalists everywhere. What are you fighting for?

[Wolverine]

Quote: Civil

Quote: Wolverine

Well, much more direct - geopolitics, there is a redivision of the world as in 47 under Stalin,

Stalin defended the rights of workers and peasants, the socialist system. Against the capitalists. Capitalism as a system. It was a confrontation of ideologies.
And here you have capitalists everywhere. What are you fighting for?

Not all at once, the reversal of Russia to socialist models is inevitable and it is happening right now, the inertia of the system does not allow it to be seen instantly, but everything will be fine.

[Victor67]

Kapets, how do you like your brain ... l Solovyov with Kleimenov ... And when everything is fine, will you manage to survive? They promise us this from the congresses of the CPSU))) Probably, now since 2030, when Sechin has gasified the whole country?

[Wolverine]

Quote: Victor67

Kapets, how do you like your brain ... l Solovyov with Kleimenov ... And when everything is fine, will you manage to survive? They promise us this from the congresses of the CPSU))) Probably, now since 2030, when Sechin has gasified the whole country?

Solovyov is one of the 12 apostles who does great harm to the country and certainly does not work for Russia, which will be cleared at the end, be patient until the end of the year ...

[CSKA]

Quote: Wolverine

Solovyov is one of the 12 apostles who does great harm to the country and certainly does not work for Russia, which will be cleared at the end, be patient until the end of the year ...

And what is his harm?

[Victor67]

Its harm is that when he receives a salary of about $ 1 million a month from our taxes on a state channel, he sucks ... he gives us brains about how everything is fine in our country, conducts wild propaganda about the usefulness of all military conflicts of the latter years in which we participate with our own money, while he himself has a residence permit in Italy and real estate on Lake Como, where only billionaires and world-class Hollywood stars can afford it. And the worst thing is that he does not hesitate at all, explaining that it is cheaper for him to relax with his family)))

[boss]

These phrases remind me of the slogans of the early Brezhny or Late Khrushchev that the current generation will already live under communism, but for now there is a shortage.
Or as a presidential candidate, about each family in a separate apartment by 2010)
A turn is inevitable and it is spinning all over, you just don’t see it (apparently by your meagerness), right?

[atalef]

Quote: Wolverine

the reversal of Russia to socialist models is inevitable and it is happening right now,

Right now?
Well, if only by the fact that Putin will surpass the length of tenure of all former general secretaries.

[mvg]

Because Russia is already "head over heels" in this mess. Delivery of 5-10 aircraft is a drop in the ocean. After the flight of the strategists, 200-220 thousand $ an hour of flight, the use of the Kh-101 / 3M14 / P-700, the maintenance of the Mediterranean squadron, the Khmeimim base, combat and non-combat losses, and most importantly, 5 years of war, thousands of kilometers from the Motherland .. So that the modernization of MiGs is true, not even a cherry.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Civil

What is this for Russia? What for the sake of spending? Who will receive money from this.

for the lack of an alternative gas pipeline to Europe.
for the sake of wmb, which counteracts the north of the Mediterranean
for the sake of chemists who allow to carry goods to Venezuela and to Cuba and other southern America.
for the sake of basing avik (in the future)
for the sake of control of the western border of Iran (otherwise we will after Iran)
for the sake of participation in Derbank of oil and gas SAR
for the salvation of the genocide of Christians in the SAR
The bottom line:
improving the welfare of citizens of the Russian Federation, the growing influence of the Russian Federation in the world and on BV in particular !!!!!!
ps
these points can be applied to Libya.

[Victor67]

Point by point:
- There is already a southern gas pipeline to Europe (from Russia);
- what the hell is the Navy, how much will it cost for our taxpayers, and why should she counter something ?;
- Why do we need to carry goods to Venezuela and Cuba past Syria, and, in general, why do we need to carry them there (maybe it would be better to take them to Siberia?);
- what the fuck, avik, are you crazy ??? There is no avik, no avik project, no avik planes, no avik planes, no shipyards for the construction of avik, and there is no money for all this;
- Why do we need control of the western border of Iran, have you seen who Iran borders on in the west, are we there?
- Oil and gas in Syria has already been torn apart: we, as usual, get fucked, and the Americans went to the fields, there is a plan how to get them out of there?
- Do you personally care about the Christians in Syria, are you Jesus ???
And most importantly: where is the increase in the welfare of citizens of the Russian Federation, some expenses past their wallets ...

[good]

If there is no Russia, there will be no wealth from the word at all.
Grouping in the Mediterranean is needed stupidly even for the safety of our own shipping and in order to keep in mind that we can bang if anything at the European and Arab bases of NATO in this region or even for whom, if necessary. They go into the Black Sea to constantly bother us, why not bother them on an ongoing basis. Especially with the new Turkish channels, free access to the Black Sea may also open.
Oil and gas in Syria has not disappeared, it is still in its place and it is possible to drive the Americans away from there not so tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. The main thing is to be there at the right time.
The fact that our southern gas pipeline has already been built does not mean that nobody still wants to smuggle their pipes into Europe through Syria.
And Christianity is a big part of our history too.
Respect your story, otherwise you will have to teach someone else, if at all they will let them survive.
We will sit on the priest exactly, there will be no chance of even even somehow responding if necessary.

[Victor67]

That is where you got this desire to be present somewhere all the time, to provide something and to bang on some bases in Europe and among the Arabs ??? Do you understand that with such thoughts they will soon cease even letting us rest across the border to the Arabs? How are you personally not comfortable with the current level of shipping safety?
Oil and gas in Syria have not disappeared, right, but will you personally try to drive the Americans away from there? If you don’t go, explain how to do it. Is someone ready to fight with them east of the river, given that they have a base there and F22 drives F15 and vice versa, and this apart from NATO and Israel with their F35? Do you understand that if Turkey, as a member of NATO, closes the supply routes, then all our fighters from there will be selected by civilian flights through other countries and they will drop everything there? You understand that Khmeimim will not last 10 minutes if he flies from all sides, they simply do not have so many missiles in the notorious S-400 and other complexes.
And it is unfortunate that in the 21st century your brain is overloaded with religion, it attracts you in the Middle Ages, with their excessive spending of taxpayers' money and irrepressible sodomy and pedophilia, which is constantly celebrated by current priests.

[Local from the Volga]

so plan for the next week, where to take the Vodyars !!! strategist!

[Victor67]

You wrote it to yourself, just accidentally threw it to another person for comment?

[atalef]

Quote: NEOZ

for the lack of an alternative gas pipeline to Europe.

And who needs it?
LNG has been driving for a long time

Quote: NEOZ

for the sake of chemists who allow to carry goods to Venezuela and to Cuba and other southern America.

Loads to Venezuela and Cuba ???
MMMMMMM --- and who pays for them?

Quote: NEOZ

for the sake of basing avik (in the future)

for the sake of what is not and is not supposed to be - dreams - dreams, what is your sweetness?

Quote: NEOZ

for the sake of control of the western border of Iran (otherwise we will after Iran)

Nothing between Iraq and Syria?
Or do you have problems with geography?

Quote: NEOZ

for the sake of participation in Derbank of oil and gas SAR

there is no oil or gas in Syria.
Tears, not deposits.

Quote: NEOZ

for the salvation of the genocide of Christians in the SAR

Strange, but save the Alawites.

Quote: NEOZ

improving the welfare of citizens of the Russian Federation

how ?
Nonsense written.

[Nastia makarova]

they found application for old planes

[svp67]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

they found application for old planes

And we have, is there something newer of light fighters, in commodity quantities?
You can, of course, put the Yak-130, but they are smaller and "weaker", and they themselves are not enough

[seti]

Quote: svp67

And we have, is there something newer of light fighters, in commodity quantities?
You can, of course, put the Yak-130, but they are smaller and "weaker", and they themselves are not enough

Our VKS relied on Sukhoi aircraft. The MiG-29 in combat units is extremely small; basically it is already massively in reserve. Part disposed part sold / distributed to friendly countries. Of course, I would like them to be replaced by the Mig-35. While there is a small order, if it shows itself well and the price is acceptable, I think that a large order will not work. The main thing is not the equipment but the pilots. And they overwhelmingly passed the run-in in Syria.

[svp67]

Quote: seti

Our VKS relied on Sukhoi aircraft.

Forgive me, I disagree ... Our Aerospace Forces use what the UAC gives them, and for a long time there were people from Sukhoi in leading positions ... Now the need to have a light, massive strike aircraft, preferably single-engine, is becoming increasingly evident, but it simply does not exist and there is no proper number of designers who could design it quickly and efficiently, and there is almost no factory where it could be produced ...

[mvg]

And we have something newer of light fighters

How long have the Yak-130 become fighters? They don’t even have a radar ... a school desk, with a rather big price.

[ancient]

Quote: mvg

They don’t even have a radar ... a school desk, with a rather big price.

And what ... you cannot "become" or "be able" without radar combat aircraft?

[mvg]

"become" or "be able"

Ancient, you are too ancient .. I was a specialist who drew a “fighter” and not a “combat aircraft”, without a radar, nowhere ...
And watch less Star TV, in the morning. If you hang everything on the Yak-130 that is in the picture, it will not become a combat aircraft. Find the performance characteristics of the load-carrying capacity, take away the weight of the radar, the slightest reservation, avionics, sighting containers and cry ... Compare with the Chinese L-7, supersonic and with the radar or the Korean T-50.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: mvg

And watch less Star TV, in the morning. If you hang everything on the Yak-130 that is in the picture, it will not become a combat aircraft.

The ancient one does not watch the channels, he is just a real combat honored pilot and I don't see any point in questioning his arguments. And I can tell you that in skillful hands "and" bolt "balalaika, and in inept, and balalaika" bolt "" (folklore if that)

[ancient]

Quote: mvg

Ancient, you are too ancient.

Well .. what it is .... as Comrade Vakhtang Kikabidze "used to say" - "..and if suddenly, someday, you want to .." ... surrender " ... you won't be allowed anywhere your years ... your wealth "

Quote: mvg

I drew a special "fighter"

And who of him, of the Yak-130, tried to ... "make" ... a fighter?
A light attack aircraft - yes, an aircraft of aviation support .. yes ... and a fighter?

Quote: mvg

And watch less Star TV, in the morning

So they took it and .. "spat in the soul" ... and the question is ... why?

Quote: mvg

Compare with the Chinese L-7, supersonic and with the radar or Korean T-50.

Well ... the question was in comparison of characteristics or all the same the ability to "make" of the Yak-130 ... a combat aircraft?

[mvg]

So they took it and .. "spat in the soul" ... and the question is ... why?

Ancient one, I'm sorry. Sincerely. I didn't want to spit. Wrote it as it is. Yes, there was a program to modernize the Yak-130 into an attack aircraft. Radar, armor, URO, etc., but the price tag climbed out at 25 million green rubles, and the timing ... as usual, so no one seriously considered it. Taking into account the fact that Grach'i came out at 7-8 million apiece, and the Su-39 is two more expensive.
PS: I wanted to say that the plane was unsuccessful. Promoted by force ... Neither M-346, nor Yak nor the tenant in the market. Such glory as the L-39 will not be.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: svp67

You can of course put the Yak-130

How can a plane that has no afterburner be considered a modern military aircraft? Yak-130 is an excellent aircraft, but training. Use it as a combat, it’s the same as a tractor instead of a tank.

[seti]

The Yak-130 can be used as a ground attack aircraft or auxiliary aircraft against underdeveloped countries. Let me remind him of 9 suspension points 3 tons of payload. Are you few?
I advise you to get acquainted
http://roe.ru/catalog/vozdushno-kosmicheskie-sily/uchebno-trenirovochnye-samolety/yak-130/

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: seti

The Yak-130 can be used as a ground attack aircraft or auxiliary aircraft against underdeveloped countries. Let me remind him of 9 suspension points 3 tons of payload. Are you few?
I advise you to get acquainted
http://roe.ru/catalog/vozdushno-kosmicheskie-sily/uchebno-trenirovochnye-samolety/yak-130/

Using it as a stormtrooper is a palliative in the absence of specialized stormtroopers. As an auxiliary plane, except as a taxi plane, it is not possible to use it and then again this is a palliative. Well, it is not possible to use a chemistry teacher as an OM specialist, and a physics teacher as a nuclear physicist, even if they are hung from head to toe with devices. The same is with the Yak-130. This is a training flight, of course you can fly on it, bomb someone and try to engage in battle against enemy aircraft, but all this will end sadly, how many baubles you do not hang on it. And I know this plane quite well, or rather its Israeli version. No one in Israel, in a sober mind and a firm memory, would think of sending him against "underdeveloped" opponents. This is to send the pilot to certain death. Today, the most underdeveloped opponents have MANPADS and other means.

[seti]

Quote: andreykolesov123

This is a training plane, of course you can fly on it to bomb someone and try to engage in battle against enemy aircraft, but all this will end sadly, how many baubles do not hang on it. And I know this plane well, or rather its Israeli version.

For starters, this modern combat training aircraft. The Yak-130 has the latest complex of flight-navigation, radio communication, information-control and other equipment, including a four-time redundant electrical remote control system with the function of an active flight safety system. It can have both air-to-air missiles and adjustable bombs. The combat load of 3 tons! Means of electronic warfare. Nobody is going to send him to a combat mission without air cover. It may well operate from a height of 4-5 thousand meters. So pzrk him not dangerous. With complete dominance in the air and the absence of a serious enemy air defense, this is a suitable aircraft. Just until his time has come. So do not hang noodles.

[ancient]

Quote: andreykolesov123

Use it as a combat, it’s the same as a tractor instead of a tank.

We present to your attention a "movie" - "VVS Mnyama ... our days" The Yak-130 is attacking the positions of the Arakan Army with the help of unguided aircraft missiles.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: ancient

We present to your attention a "movie" - "Mnamy Air Force ... our days" Yak-130 is attacking the positions of the Arakan Army with the help of unguided air missiles.

The flag is in their hands, of course, but I see that a fighter is shooting a machine gun at a pretty penny at an airplane at a height of at least 1000 m and only Allah can help him get into it. From a plane from the same height they fire at the NURSs and again, only Allah can help them at least not get on their own, I’m silent about any accuracy.

[ancient]

Quote: andreykolesov123

but I see that a fighter is shooting a machine gun at a pretty penny on an airplane at a height of at least 1000 m

And this is already a problem .. "Papuans" ... don't you think?

Quote: andreykolesov123

From an airplane from the same height they fire at NURSami

Yes..certainly, the range for the S-13 .. is small, but ... the combat characteristics .... deserve respect (so far .. there are still no analogs to the NARS S-13DF foreign analogues).
Circular VO in a salvo of only 10 meters

[Piramidon]

Quote: andreykolesov123

How can a plane that has no afterburner be considered a modern military aircraft?

Su-25 has fast and the furious? Or is it not a military plane?

[Local from the Volga]

Bravo!))) Thank you!

[Victor67]

Yak-130 - this is an excessive impact power, it is better to put the Yak-52)))

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Well, yes, we instantly bought-35 / for the Air Force. Why do we need Mig-29.

[Cyril G ...]

We have all the old MiG-29s in reserve for a long time, the most killed are being disassembled, the most serviceable are transferred to the Syrian and Serbian air forces, perhaps something was transferred to the LNA and the Iranian air force. Transmitted, meaning free. And this is the right decision, for we will repair and upgrade them at their expense.
As far as I remember, at the moment in the Russian Air Force there are no old MiG-29s in combat regiments. They remained only in a separate IAE in Eribuni, our group of forces in Armenia.
A certain number of old MiG-29s, mainly UB, and by old I mean aircraft released before 1993, we have remained in training units.

Ask about the new ones?

Those:
- 28 MiG-29SMT and 6 MiG-29UB manufactured in the 2000s, mainly 14 IAPs in Kursk flew them. Then they were put into reserve, and now they seem to be transferring them to 116 pulp and paper plants in Astrakhan. The keyword seems to be.
- 22 MiG-29KR / KUBR issued in 2013-2016, they fly decks 100 KIAP, MA Navy. It was 24, 1 lost, 1 decommissioned.
-16 MiG-29SMT (R), 3 MiG-29UBM released in 2015-2017, it seems, they basically went to the pulp and paper industry, to Astrakhan.

[Interlocutor]

Ask about the new ones?

Do not ask.

- 28 MiG-29SMT and 6 MiG-29UB manufactured in the 2000s, mainly 14 IAPs in Kursk flew them. Then they were put into reserve, and now they seem to be transferring them to 116 pulp and paper plants in Astrakhan. The keyword seems to be.
- 22 MiG-29KR / KUBR issued in 2013-2016, they fly decks 100 KIAP, MA Navy. It was 24, 1 lost, 1 decommissioned.
-16 MiG-29SMT (R), 3 MiG-29UBM released in 2015-2017, it seems, they basically went to the pulp and paper industry, to Astrakhan.

You are some kind of concentrated talker. You don’t have to ask you directly, tell us everything yourself.

[Cyril G ...]

You’re carrying some kind of game. All that I reminded the public, is no terrible military secret .....

[ancient]

Quote: Cyril G ...

A certain number of old MiG-29s, mainly UB, and by old I mean aircraft released before 1993, we have remained in training units.

A bit wrong
Millerovo Air Base

A satellite image of the Russian Millerovo airfield in the Rostov region, dated March 9, 2016, where the 31st Fighter Aviation Regiment of the 1st Mixed Aviation Division of the 4th Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Southern Military District (c) CNES / Airbus Defense and Space (via Jane's) (clickable)

According to this picture, it can be seen that, on March 9, 2016 at the Millerovo airfield there were 20 Su-30SM fighters, three Su-27/30 type aircraft (these are aircraft from the 3rd mixed aviation regiment of the same 1st mixed aviation division from the Krymsk airfield) and 34 MiG-29 fighters, the latter continued to be operated.
Almost the same composition of the aviation group in Millerovo was also observed there on a satellite image taken on April 5, 2016. , only the number of MiG-29 was reduced to 32 - and the MiG-29 fighters also continued to fly (in the picture dated October 17, 2015 the number of MiG-29 in Millerovo was 36).

[Cyril G ...]

In the photo of April 19, 16 Su-30SM and 25 MiG-29 are visible, judging by the fact that the MiGs are driven into one place and they are not in the fuel and energy sector, it is unlikely that they are flying, most likely a reserve.
Although everything is possible.

At least about the IAP in Millerovo they said that he was completely rearmament on the Su-30SM and now flies to them

[ancient]

Quote: Cyril G ...

judging by the fact that MiGs are driven into one place and in the TEC they are not likely

Yes, they seem to be "dear" opposite each other in the same way .. on the "wide" in storage
They are now being "modernized", "capitalized" whenever possible and necessary, and ... "distributed" to ... whoever needs it ..... (Serbians are all from there)

[Local from the Volga]

Here Sevostyanov would be surprised at one time!))))

[Nastia makarova]

they are no longer used anyway

[knn54]

"Only old men go to battle."

[Nastia makarova]

the main thing is that experienced old people sit at the helm

[silberwolf88]

A strategic partner in such a difficult region and in such a convenient strategic point of view needs to be maintained and strengthened ... it is necessary to raise the Syrian forces to a level where they can solve their security problems in the region ... if there are very problematic neighbors and accumulated territorial disputes. .. The deliveries of the Migs are very timely ...

[Herman 4223]

There are not enough twinkles with such neighbors, they would have a couple of AWACS, EW aircraft and a couple of dozen modern fighters.

[igorspb]

this must be able to use, not to mention integration into the control system, and the Syrians do not know how and do not have ....

[Herman 4223]

Learning any business need someone to argue with this. Do you think that there is a problem to train the crew?

[da Vinci]

It would be nice, but if you do not shoot down planes that attack the ATS from outside Syria (for example, from Lebanon), these AWACS aircraft can be lost in 1-2 days.

[Herman 4223]

Well, that would be very stupid, especially since such an aircraft is needed so that nothing arrives from Lebanon, but to lose aircraft at an air base is very real there should be serious round-the-clock air defense.

[seti]

Quote: Herman 4223

There are not enough twinkles with such neighbors, they would have a couple of AWACS, EW aircraft and a couple of dozen modern fighters.

Just not at our expense this banquet. We gave them the Su-24, now the Su-29. But this is the aircraft of the 80s. God be with them - they are already almost without need for us, and they will still serve Syria. But AWACS is very expensive and complicated. EW is the same. They just don’t sell it like that, much less give it away.

[Herman 4223]

At our expense, I did not offer, although it can pay for itself indirectly. An alien oil pipeline will not be built there.

[KVU-NSVD]

already starting to carry out missions on these aircraft.

Well, the embassy could simply say in an official message - "they are already flying." What for these Americanisms?

[rotmistr60]

Delivered and officially reported. But the Americans will obviously find reason to be concerned about something, and I can even imagine the headlines in their media: "Russia supplied Assad with planes to kill civilians." When itching to even cure American hemorrhoids does not help.

[sav]

But Americans will obviously find something to worry about.

We are waiting for the introduction of the next sanctions

[aszzz888]

A good rear should be well-equipped, preferably not entirely old weapons.

[Nik Kulinich]

An excellent stronghold of the RF Armed Forces. Influence in the Middle East and the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, containment of "friendly" Turkey from the south (in the north, bases in Armenia and the Black Sea Fleet). Allied relations must be cherished.

[akunin]

Quote: Nik Kulinich

An excellent stronghold of the RF Armed Forces. Influence in the Middle East and the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea, containment of "friendly" Turkey from the south (in the north, bases in Armenia and the Black Sea Fleet). Allied relations must be cherished.

question: how will you supply

Excellent stronghold of the Russian Armed Forces

if nearby countries close airspace + bosporus? How to carry out logistics? with fights? + statement of not the last Syrian diplomat that Russia is an aggressor?

[Nik Kulinich]

To close the Bosphorus and not urinate, it will not work. And in order to close the airspace over Syria, the neighboring countries must first declare war on Syria. And who will do it?

[akunin]

Quote: Nik Kulinich

To close the Bosphorus and not urinate

optimist? the bosphorus can be closed to the passage of warships (The Montreux Convention retains the freedom of passage through the straits for merchant ships of all countries in both peacetime and wartime. However, the convention establishes a different mode of passage for warships for the fleets of the Black Sea and non-Black Sea states. Subject to prior notification by the Turkish authorities, the Black Sea states may navigate their warships of any class through the straits in peacetime., the Turkish fleet is not the worst in the world (the Black Sea squadron). The airspace does not need to be closed over Syria, it is enough to close your airspace (do you plan to overcome about NATO?). Turkey, in case of discrepancies with Russia, can rely on NATO, and we on the Warsaw Treaty "? Syria? Iran? China is smart, it will not climb.

[013Azer]

Turkish pilot: Who said MiG29 ?? Where??

[Cyril G ...]

Interestingly, where did you see the AiM-120D at a price of 340 thousand bucks?
Last year, they were bought by the Air Force and the US Navy at a price of 1 million 100 thousand bucks - 1 million 250 thousand bucks. AiM-9 Sidewiner was purchased at a price of about at least 490 thousand bucks.
- And by the fall of last year, the Turkish Air Force F-16s were provided with pilots by 30-40 percent. The cleansing however.

[Interlocutor]

Interestingly, where did you see the AiM-120D at a price of 340 thousand bucks?

What uncomfortable questions are you asking?
The main thing is the picture))). Musk won a rocket at a cost of 56 lyamas and blinded it and sends satellites in batches for this, but here about the price of some kind of rocket))).
Written in the picture 340 means 340. Believe everyone and be afraid.

[Nastia makarova]

it’s not clear what are you talking about? then what did the Turkish pilot urinate?

[kit88]

Quote: 013Azer

Turkish pilot: Who said MiG29 ?? Where??

Come here, show.

[mvg]

Had a lot of these 40HE6 and a hedgehog with them? Do not share the list? Maybe there is a positive combat experience?

[kit88]

You see, not only everything depends on 40HE6 here.
We also need people willing to be included in your "list".
And strangely enough, they are not.

[mvg]

And strangely enough, they are not.

Can you tell me what the two S-300PMU2 divisions are doing in Syria? At the same time, this is an uncut version. Probably they are watching Israel peacefully bombing an international airport, the capital of Syria, an air base .. In the sense of "out of business", they were just bought to scare away enemies with their very appearance. In the former Soviet Union, you can easily find specialists for denyuzhku. I even know a couple of

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: mvg

Had a lot of these 40HE6 and a hedgehog with them? Do not share the list? Maybe there is a positive combat experience?

Not many, but how many needed to be shot down, so many S-400s were shot down. And you asked about the American Patriot in Saudi Arabia and Iraq.
There is positive experience. We’ll share the list. Or do you think there is a demand for the S-400?

In December, the People’s Liberation Army of China conducted the first successful test firing of the Russian S-400 air defense system, hitting a ballistic target at a distance of about 250 km.
“Test firing took place in the first decade of December at a Chinese training ground with one of the two S-400 divisions acquired from Russia. The 48N6E missile launched by the system’s firing system hit a ballistic target flying at a speed of 3 km / s, ”a military diplomatic source said then.

“The second test shooting of the S-400 took place in December last year at a Chinese training ground. One 48N6E missile fired by the system’s fire set hit an aerodynamic target (simulating an aircraft) flying at a speed of more than 600 m / s, ”the source noted, adding that the target was hit at a maximum range of almost 250 km.

https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2019/01/10/v-kitae-zaversheny-uspeshnye-ispytaniya-priobretennoy-u-rossii-zrs-s-400

[Local from the Volga]

want to try?

[Bongo]

Quote: kit88

Quote: 013Azer

Turkish pilot: Who said MiG29 ?? Where??

Come here, show.

Sorry, I may not know what. But instead of drawing you will not be difficult to demonstrate SPU drill missiles with missiles 9M96 / 9M96E2 and 40N6E? And also please specify the firing range of SAM 40N6E?

[kit88]

Sergey, a beautiful drawing was chosen on purpose in response to a beautiful drawing of a Turkish pilot.
If you are interested in real information on the S-400, then I’ll say right away - the question is not at the address. I have a different VUS. And I think it makes no sense to quote you a wiki.
Refer to specialists on ground defense.

[zyablik.olga]

Quote: kit88

If you are interested in real information on the S-400, then I’ll say right away - the question is not at the address. I have a different VUS. And I think it makes no sense to quote you a wiki.
Refer to specialists on ground defense.

My husband did not just ask you a question, there is frankly false information in your pictures.
As for the S-400, Seryozha recently had an article on this topic.

[kit88]

Olga, I understand your indignation.
But you somehow separate truly “scientific” posts from caricatures.
I think it would never occur to any scientist to make corrections to pictures and feuilleton in Crocodile magazine.
There was specifically a response to the provocative post of Comrade 013Azer (Azer), an answer in the style of a propaganda poster. Here, not only inaccuracies are permissible, but also outright propaganda disinformation. For example, you could draw this:

This is not a reason to conduct a scientific debate, it is a reason to smile.

[Sky strike fighter]

The Turkish Air Force is not armed with the AIM-120D. There is only the AIM-120C-7 with a range of up to 120 km, just like the R-77-1, which is in the arsenal of the Russian Air Force, so there is no need to fantasize.

Quote: 013Azer

Turkish pilot: Who said MiG29 ?? Where??

[brr1]

Is he wearing a protective helmet so that sparks from the barbecue do not get into his eyes?

[rocket757]

Let them learn to defend their own state.

[Break through]

Fine. Syria needs them.

[Gardamir]

About the framework is understandable. And who paid for this banquet?

[Fungus]

You will personally pay

[Nastia makarova]

gave away for free !!!

[iouris]

But without pilots and technicians.

[Nastia makarova]

like the Syrians had pilots trained on these aircraft

[iouris]

I'm talking about the same (if you do not understand).
By the way, once in a while Israel destroyed the old MiG-29s (it's on TV).

[Nastia makarova]

destroyed? or sold?

[013Azer]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Interestingly, where did you see the AiM-120D at a price of 340 thousand bucks?
Last year, they were bought by the Air Force and the US Navy at a price of 1 million 100 thousand bucks - 1 million 250 thousand bucks. AiM-9 Sidewiner was purchased at a price of about at least 490 thousand bucks.
- And by the fall of last year, the Turkish Air Force F-16s were provided with pilots by 30-40 percent. The cleansing however.

They are quite supplied to Turkey not just at such low prices, sometimes they are presented in batches to Turkey, under the NATO support program for the main ally in the region, because it is they who, by their power, the Air Force, can stop the aggression of vandals, in which case. This is very good, dear SAM. In fact, one of the components of NATO air defense on the border with potential enemies.
And so, I'm sorry if the pictures offended you, dear Syrian ..

[Cyril G ...]

AiM-120D will not be delivered to Turkey at such prices. How will they be delivered at such prices if the US Air Force buys them at a price that is 4 times more expensive? Do not explain by the hour? They can give. missiles of models A and B, or C of the first series with an exhausted flight resource and an ending service life.
And the price was 340 thousand bucks, only 23 years ago, now it costs several times higher.
And please do not tell the people about the vandals and NATO’s main ally. And I'm not a Syrian at all.

[Local from the Volga]

and it’s your turn, in the Karabakh region!

[Yeraz]

So is it the Syrian Mig-29s that have undergone modernization in Russia and returned back or from Russian stocks?

[Cyril G ...]

From our reserve

[013Azer]

Quote: kit88

Quote: 013Azer

Turkish pilot: Who said MiG29 ?? Where??

Come here, show.

And when did we manage to switch to You? ..

Soon there was also their second carrier (from day to day ..)

Still in secret, they have some surprises of Israeli production, for "jamming" the air defense systems, which have hardly ever shone anywhere .. at the right moment there will be a surprise from the sky.

[Cyril G ...]

A conventional tactical aircraft will never be able to "muffle" the air defense system radar. The capacities are not comparable.

[brr1]

Is it hard when you have nothing to brag about? Have to talk about what kind of boss you have cool.

[iouris]

Quote: Hydrogen

Who are we betting on?

To Nabiullina.

[Hydrogen]

Well, this is another front of work, and for her successful.

[iouris]

One front - on which the loot is forged. So the option is a win-win. Moreover, her husband Yaroslav Ivanovich Kuzminov (born May 26, 1957, Moscow), a Russian economist, public figure, founder and rector of the Higher School of Economics National Research University, forges staff for the future. Family in a row.

[Local from the Volga]

and another open fagot! will forge!

[igorspb]

Quote: Herman 4223

Learning any business need someone to argue with this. Do you think that there is a problem to train the crew?

fly or be operators DRLiO? I don’t know how to fly, but operators - for a long time, I’ve been taught for 5 years in a very good school ...

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

That's right, we sell Syria, and Syria can sell these planes to anyone they want. The state of Syria is independent and itself disposes of its equipment and weapons. Once again we showed the world that we are not interfering in the internal affairs of this country ...

[yfast]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

That's right, we sell Syria, and Syria can sell these planes to anyone they want.

There is no certainty that Syria has money, and weapons are not exactly what can be sold further.

[Cyril G ...]

Transferring a MiG-29 batch at a nominal price of 1 ruble per squadron is the right decision. They are put in reserve with us, but after repair they will be able to fly, and then they will restore technical readiness with us for money. Profit And even the cutting and maintenance in the reserve of money is worth it.

[Lord of the Sith]

Yankees and company will be furious, will fart with notes))