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The volume of the order of the Angara missiles was announced by the Ministry of Defense

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The Khrunichev Center, which is part of the state corporation Roscosmos, and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation signed a contract for the supply of a batch of Angara-A5 missiles. It is about mass production of such missiles.


About this news agency RIA News A source related to the space rocket industry said.

The military will need four launch vehicles.

The common name "Angara" are space rockets of various classes. Among them are light, medium and heavy. Four Angara-A5 missiles ordered by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation belong to the heavy class.

Shortly before this, the source informed the agency that the signing of the first contract between the defense department and Roskosmos will take place after the test launch of the rocket, which is scheduled for this year. In April, the same was officially announced by the head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin.

This will be the second launch of the rocket, and the first took place back in 2014. This time, the Angara-A5, equipped with the Briz-M booster block, will have to launch a model of the spacecraft into a geostationary orbit to an altitude of more than 35 thousand kilometers.

At the beginning of this year, the presidential decree marked 25 years ago and launched the development of the Angara missile system. Since then, it has not yet reached the serial production of these space launch vehicles.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 3 June 2020 10: 51 New
    +5
    The hangar is the future of our military space strategy.
    1. Domovenok
      Domovenok 3 June 2020 10: 57 New
      17
      Quote: Doccor18
      The hangar is the future of our military space strategy.

      It’s better to keep silent about it for now .. And then fans of the mask and the whole western stumble. hi
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 11: 05 New
        +7
        winked
        Quote: Domovenok
        And then fans of the mask stumble and the whole western.

        They are not so scary, they just have a sabbath and aggravation now. But this is transitory. smile
        1. letinant
          letinant 3 June 2020 11: 09 New
          +7
          They are not so scary, they just have a sabbath and aggravation now. But this is transitory.

          I agree, these sectarians have agreed almost to that. That Musk first sent people into space !?
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 3 June 2020 12: 13 New
            +9
            Rather, someone is intimidating himself with sectarians who "almost agreed that Musk sent people into space for the first time."
            1. letinant
              letinant 3 June 2020 13: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: military_cat
              Rather, someone is intimidating himself with sectarians who "almost agreed that Musk sent people into space for the first time."

              Well, I somehow do not care about the Mask, and its sectarians. For me, cosmonautics day is April 12th. And the era of manned flights began on April 12, 1961, and the first person in space was the Air Force Senior Lieutenant, Yuri Alekseevich Gagarin, a citizen of the Soviet Union. And as for the Americans, it would be strange that a country that previously flew into space could not repeat this.
          2. Civil
            Civil 3 June 2020 12: 17 New
            +3
            Quote: letinant
            They are not so scary, they just have a sabbath and aggravation now. But this is transitory.

            I agree, these sectarians have agreed almost to that. That Musk first sent people into space !?

            Exactly, there is no Mask. Roscosmos is the leader in world cosmonautics. Rogozin is an effective manager and no balabol.
            1. mirexes
              mirexes 3 June 2020 12: 24 New
              +5
              Yes, and nowhere is it written and there is no real evidence that the mask of a rocket is reliable and impeccable. The sectarians then shout that one launch is a victory, decades of launches are a loss
            2. letinant
              letinant 3 June 2020 13: 32 New
              +1
              Exactly, there is no Mask. Roscosmos is the leader in world cosmonautics. Rogozin is an effective manager and no balabol.
              Yes, calm down already, Mask exists, exists. What makes you so rogue from the name Rogozin? You can’t do this with yourself, beware.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 3 June 2020 18: 57 New
                +2
                Quote: letinant
                What makes you so rogue from the name Rogozin? You can’t do this with yourself, beware.

                Do not worry you for Civil (Vadim) let him think about himself ... He wants to jump out of his pants for Omerika reedna! Let it jump out!
            3. Klingon
              Klingon 3 June 2020 16: 01 New
              +2
              it’s true that he didn’t say anything like this about Trampolines, it was all the media that wassat
              The eagle, not today tomorrow will fly around the moon, while in an unmanned version. Like layout wassat
              1. Pathos
                Pathos 3 June 2020 16: 26 New
                +3
                Our arel will never fly No. , erysipelas do not crawl into the porthole laughing
          3. Normal ok
            Normal ok 3 June 2020 14: 03 New
            -2
            Quote: letinant
            They are not so scary, they just have a sabbath and aggravation now. But this is transitory.

            I agree, these sectarians have agreed almost to that. That Musk first sent people into space !?

            A curious statement. Give a reference?
        2. Samara
          Samara 3 June 2020 12: 37 New
          -9
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          winked
          Quote: Domovenok
          And then fans of the mask stumble and the whole western.

          They are not so scary, they just have a sabbath and aggravation now. But this is transitory. smile

          No wonder there is so actively banned everyone ..)))
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 12: 41 New
            +3
            Why banyat? For opinion or insults and obscenities?
            1. Samara
              Samara 3 June 2020 13: 00 New
              -10
              Quote: KVU-NSVD
              Why banyat? For opinion or insults and obscenities?

              For the opinion that the mask is not praised .. And Roscosmos not spread rot! there is no mate and insults, more often I read to myself ..
              And so everything is going well .. hi
              1. KVU-NSVD
                KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 13: 45 New
                +2
                Quote: Samara
                Quote: KVU-NSVD
                Why banyat? For opinion or insults and obscenities?

                For the opinion that the mask is not praised .. And Roscosmos not spread rot! there is no mate and insults, more often I read to myself ..
                And so everything is going well .. hi

                But since you are writing here, it means nobody has banned you. So what are the complaints? request
                1. Samara
                  Samara 3 June 2020 13: 49 New
                  -5
                  Quote: KVU-NSVD
                  Quote: Samara
                  Quote: KVU-NSVD
                  Why banyat? For opinion or insults and obscenities?

                  For the opinion that the mask is not praised .. And Roscosmos not spread rot! there is no mate and insults, more often I read to myself ..
                  And so everything is going well .. hi

                  But since you are writing here, it means nobody has banned you. So what are the complaints? request

                  There are no complaints to anyone ... wink
                  Everything is regular ..
            2. Normal ok
              Normal ok 3 June 2020 14: 10 New
              +3
              Quote: KVU-NSVD
              Why banyat? For opinion or insults and obscenities?

              To be honest, then for anything happens. And it happens justly and unfairly.
            3. Borz
              Borz 3 June 2020 14: 12 New
              +1
              Why banyat? For opinion or insults and obscenities?

              Answer:
              For the opinion. The most that is personal and subjective opinion. Do not dare to argue with adherents whose words are unquestioned. I tried to explain, to reach out, including to the moderators .... but where is it! You can still discuss the news, but the articles of some respected authors cannot be, it is a dogma, an axiom. Right away, whip! And cons, cons .....
              1. KVU-NSVD
                KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 14: 36 New
                +5
                Quote: Borz
                .Do not dare to argue with adherents whose words are unquestioned.

                Come on. I contradicted and nicho, the main thing is to do it within the limits of politeness. I was banned and the comments were deleted, in principle, on the case .. and only "I contradicted the adherents without hesitation. Comments were deleted for some unknown reason - it happened a couple of times.
                And cons, cons ....
                And what ? nahai amuse
                1. Borz
                  Borz 3 June 2020 14: 42 New
                  +1
                  And what ? nahai amuse


                  Yes, let them, I do not mind)) And I "contradicted" within the bounds of decency and did not violate the rules of commenting. It's just that one very respected author did not like the criticism
                  1. KVU-NSVD
                    KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 14: 43 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Borz
                    Just one very very respected author did not like the critic

                    Skomorokhov, or what? It happens .. laughing
                    1. Borz
                      Borz 3 June 2020 17: 11 New
                      0
                      And you are insightful ....
                      1. KVU-NSVD
                        KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 17: 34 New
                        +1
                        And you are insightful ....
                        "I've been sitting here for a long time ..." (c) laughing
                  2. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 3 June 2020 19: 01 New
                    0
                    Quote: Borz
                    Just one very very respected author did not like the critic

                    I agree there is one such hardened bird like an overseas bird ....
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 3 June 2020 11: 07 New
        -1
        Quote: Domovenok
        It’s better to keep silent about it for now .. And then fans of the mask and the whole western stumble.

        There is still, to be afraid of all kinds of mankurts ... Let them be afraid themselves.
        1. Samara
          Samara 3 June 2020 12: 38 New
          -4
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Quote: Domovenok
          It’s better to keep silent about it for now .. And then fans of the mask and the whole western stumble.

          There is still, to be afraid of all kinds of mankurts ... Let them be afraid themselves.

          Stripping is active ..
      3. Vend
        Vend 3 June 2020 11: 18 New
        +7
        Quote: Domovenok
        Quote: Doccor18
        The hangar is the future of our military space strategy.

        It’s better to keep silent about it for now .. And then fans of the mask and the whole western stumble. hi

        And what about Musk, well, he launched a rocket, Russia is only at hand. Now there will be competition, you have to move in order to keep the contracts. Patriotism is patriotism, but if it is cheaper to fly on our missiles, then they will continue to fly on Russian missiles. Although there is an option to force the decision to force the Americans, and along the way of all satellites, to fly only on their rockets)
        1. Samara
          Samara 3 June 2020 12: 42 New
          -3
          Quote: Wend
          And what about Musk, well, he launched a rocket, Russia is only at hand. Now there will be competition, you have to move in order to keep the contracts. Patriotism is patriotism, but if it is cheaper to fly on our missiles, then they will continue to fly on Russian missiles. Although there is an option to force the decision to force the Americans, and along the way of all satellites, to fly only on their rockets)

          Thinking sensibly .. I agree with you! Sanctions and healthy competition are always useful for Russia (especially for our officials) .. And I remember Chubais and Gaidar said .. “Why should we produce ourselves if we can buy cheaper and better quality in the West? It was horror in the 90s
          Damn bought up ..
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 3 June 2020 17: 31 New
            -3
            Sanctions and healthy competition, Russia ..... well, if you paraphrase from a famous movie like "our people don't take a taxi to the buloshnaya", then this phrase will sound the same for space. or to get to point B in a six or in a limousine, I did not fit rubber women to the mask stat
      4. knn54
        knn54 3 June 2020 11: 27 New
        0
        Musk is "made" for the civil-commercial program.
        NASA, I think, is working closely with the Pentagon.
        So Roscosos will have to work hard - the country's defense should be a priority.
        Well, there are enough people who want to fly without the Yankees.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 3 June 2020 12: 27 New
          0
          Quote: knn54
          Well, there are enough people who want to fly without the Yankees.

          That's right, that's why there is already talk about developing our domestic station, to which there will be a huge number of people who want to fly, especially for tourist purposes. As they say it is not yet evening to bury our space program, especially since we have the opportunity to build an orbital station from scratch and on our components.
          1. Letun
            Letun 3 June 2020 15: 37 New
            -2
            Quote: ccsr
            that's why there is already talk about developing our domestic station

            Well, that is a given. In conversations Rogozhkin is strong. You can’t argue with that. The journalist is professional.
            1. slipped
              slipped 3 June 2020 22: 43 New
              -1
              Quote: Letun
              Quote: ccsr
              that's why there is already talk about developing our domestic station


              Well, that is a given. In conversations Rogozhkin is strong. You can’t argue with that. The journalist is professional.


              Well .... not conversations, but the main modules of our station:







              Photos are certainly not new, but what are laughing
          2. Pathos
            Pathos 3 June 2020 16: 45 New
            -1
            So I ask myself what lada to drag 6 parasites in a lushpike at a time to the station, is there enough room for everyone there? The question is about lushpike, have the technology of the engines advanced so much that they have become reusable? How are they going to land / parachute? Again, our docking system starting from Soyuz-Apollo. I don’t know all this nonsense. The Americans already had a reusable child prodigy. How it ended, everyone knows 2 accidents and the number of victims is greater than ours. For tourists, you need to build a hotel in orbit and not a station, and all sorts of things hang around, and then holes in the toilets appear (And why are there safety belts on the submarine? Why wouldn’t you like to go around the toilets, otherwise press the button and there !! !!! And what is there? And there can be anything laughing )
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 3 June 2020 17: 07 New
              +4
              "For tourists, you need to build a hotel in orbit and not a station" ///
              ---
              Already started to build. A separate module docked to the station, comfortable.
              1. Samara
                Samara 4 June 2020 09: 26 New
                -4
                Quote: voyaka uh
                "For tourists, you need to build a hotel in orbit and not a station" ///
                ---
                Already started to build. A separate module docked to the station, comfortable.

                This is scary what the ISS wants to turn and space exploration .. Rich to entertain?
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 4 June 2020 09: 30 New
                  +2
                  What's so scary? There are scientific modules, there are sleeping modules for astronauts. And there will be a tourist. Pay cash. The station will pay for itself.
                  1. Samara
                    Samara 4 June 2020 09: 41 New
                    -4
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    What's so scary? There are scientific modules, there are sleeping modules for astronauts. And there will be a tourist. Pay cash. The station will pay for itself.

                    Somehow it warps! Space has not yet been studied, scientists would have to go there, and not all major events. I won’t be surprised if there’s any night in the whole sky, some kind of advertisement will unfold .. Or, like a mask, I’ve launched my car into space .. And then yoghurts and hot dogs fly there start .. Ugh damn ..
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 4 June 2020 09: 43 New
                      +2
                      So it was with aviation. First, test engineers, then military, then regular civilian traffic. Cosmos repeats this process.
                      1. Samara
                        Samara 4 June 2020 13: 07 New
                        0
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        So it was with aviation. First, test engineers, then military, then regular civilian traffic. Cosmos repeats this process.

                        How do I answer any Jew, so immediately abruptly go to the negative .. Why?
                      2. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 4 June 2020 13: 23 New
                        +1
                        I never put cons, in principle. Or a plus, or nothing.
            2. Pathos
              Pathos 10 June 2020 08: 57 New
              0
              And everyone will hang around with a drill toilets laughing
      5. Samara
        Samara 3 June 2020 12: 43 New
        -11
        Quote: knn54
        Well, there are enough people who want to fly without the Yankees.

        If we unite with China, then there is a terrible dream for Amers ..
        1. Klingon
          Klingon 3 June 2020 16: 06 New
          +3
          China is not particularly keen on this; China wants to develop its space program alone. And believe me, they will succeed. For wagging with them is not a priority. We don’t learn about Chinese launches in advance, but already postscript
          1. slipped
            slipped 3 June 2020 22: 54 New
            -3
            Quote: Klingon
            China is not particularly keen on this; China wants to develop its space program alone. And believe me, they will succeed.


            Roscosmos and the Chinese Institute are planning an interesting moon program, a joint group has been created and is working.

            Quote: Klingon
            For wagging with them is not a priority. We don’t learn about Chinese launches in advance, but already postscript


            And the Chinese also announce their launches in advance like everyone else. laughing
    2. svp67
      svp67 3 June 2020 13: 29 New
      0
      Quote: Domovenok
      It’s better to keep quiet about it for now ..

      And don't be silent. I understand that they are buying it for Plesetsk ... one thing is bad, this rocket has never flown before ... but I think that our VKS will teach it to fly and give it a "ticket to life" ...
      1. Samara
        Samara 3 June 2020 13: 54 New
        -8
        Quote: svp67
        But do not be silent.

        It’s better to keep quiet .. So they’ll rumble that it will not seem enough! Let them work silently better.
        Quote: svp67
        but I think that our VKS will teach her to fly and give her a "ticket to life" ...

        And there is NO other way out in Russia! Without Cosmos, Russia will not be .. This is for sure, it is not in vain that such a run-in is on us in Russia (on Cosmos and Faith) hi
      2. slipped
        slipped 3 June 2020 23: 02 New
        -2
        Quote: svp67
        But do not be silent. I understand that they are buying it for Plesetsk ...


        The creation of this rocket was funded by the MO. The start for her was built in Plesetsk. Production is deployed in Omsk.

        Quote: svp67
        one bad thing this rocket has never flown before ...


        There were 9 launches of URM-1 and 2 launches of URM-2 as part of the Naro, A1.2PP and A5 missiles. All are successful.

        Quote: svp67
        but I think that our VKS will teach her to fly and give her a "ticket to life" ...


        Our military stopped using the Proton-M launch vehicle last year, having launched the last spacecraft of the Blagovest group on the geostationary.
    3. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 4 June 2020 04: 39 New
      0
      Yes, and buoy with them. Let the dogs bark. The main thing is that our caravan goes in the right direction.
  2. ultra
    ultra 3 June 2020 11: 07 New
    +9
    Of course, the future, as many as TWO test launches from the beginning of the program. Over twenty-odd years, this is somehow not enough. 13 years after the war the USSR flew into space, and in modern Russia they did not build a new launch vehicle in 30 years.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 3 June 2020 11: 30 New
      -1
      In the comment above
      . It’s better to keep silent about it for now .. And then fans of the mask and the whole western

      Well. Started wassat
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 3 June 2020 11: 35 New
      +1
      The project is coming! There is an order! Yes, slowly, not without difficulties. The space industry, like no other, is the quintessence of advanced scientific thought and ultimate industrial capabilities.
      1. Oleg Zorin
        Oleg Zorin 3 June 2020 13: 13 New
        +7
        Unfortunately, the project does not "go", but creeps. And sometimes it just stands
  3. 210ox
    210ox 3 June 2020 11: 21 New
    +2
    Are you aware of the military space strategy of our state? I am not making jokes, but I really would like to know what our strategists are "planning"?
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 3 June 2020 11: 54 New
      +1
      I am not the commander-in-chief of the Aerospace Forces, of course, but I can assume that the strategy for the coming decades is to maintain in orbit a significant satellite constellation, reconnaissance and navigation and strike. "Angara", as a multi-purpose (from light to heavy) system, will become the main one.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 June 2020 12: 17 New
        0
        It is just a necessity, not a strategy. Even stomping on the spot, even in the case of updating the satellite constellation. A clear plan for the development of the Russian cosmonautics is needed. With appropriate funding and responsibility.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 3 June 2020 12: 46 New
          0
          Well. Responsibility and planning do not like .. No. By the way, Asian countries are successfully accelerating their development, including through clear planning.
    2. Samara
      Samara 3 June 2020 13: 08 New
      -6
      Quote: 210ox
      Are you aware of the military space strategy of our state? I am not making jokes, but I really would like to know what our strategists are "planning"?

      Here, many would like to know))) But thank God, the bouncers decreased here ..
      Work is going on unambiguously and Mask is not a competitor to us, that's for sure .. PR knows how to clearly! He and Rogozin there are podkolomi correspondence))))
      Space is not commerce and marketing, etc. .. It's all adult and money is big and the country's resources must all work in order to achieve something! hi Or rather, not even money, but faith in the Soviet Cosmos! After all, we were the first and will remain them forever in the history of mankind and I hope it will be so in the future (despite the enormous losses))) ..
    3. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 3 June 2020 13: 14 New
      +2
      like what? Apple trees on the moon. Ragozin told
  4. Bar1
    Bar1 3 June 2020 11: 48 New
    -10
    under Putin, Russia has no future.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 3 June 2020 12: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Bar1
      under Putin, Russia has no future.

      And under Yeltsin, whom the people re-elected in 1996, was the future?
      Name the one with whom you see the future of Russia - not by general reasoning, but specifically the names of the candidates for guide.
      1. Bar1
        Bar1 3 June 2020 12: 34 New
        -7
        Quote: ccsr
        Quote: Bar1
        under Putin, Russia has no future.

        And under Yeltsin, whom the people re-elected in 1996, was the future?
        Name the one with whom you see the future of Russia - not by general reasoning, but specifically the names of the candidates for guide.

        Yu.I. Mukhin-writer
        P.N. Grudinin is an entrepreneur whose workers live well.
        to start...
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 3 June 2020 12: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: Bar1
          P.N. Grudinin is an entrepreneur whose workers live well.

          His people did not support him, even when the Communist Party threw all his strength into his support. Not a checkpoint.

          Quote: Bar1
          Yu.I. Mukhin-writer

          We still lacked writers in the leadership of the country - it may be enough that creative personalities in the Duma wipe their pants. The candidate is not serious, it’s not even the late Limonov, so come up with something better.
          1. Bar1
            Bar1 3 June 2020 13: 16 New
            -2
            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Bar1
            P.N. Grudinin is an entrepreneur whose workers live well.

            His people did not support him, even when the Communist Party threw all his strength into his support. Not a checkpoint.

            Quote: Bar1
            Yu.I. Mukhin-writer

            We still lacked writers in the leadership of the country - it may be enough that creative personalities in the Duma wipe their pants. The candidate is not serious, it’s not even the late Limonov, so come up with something better.

            do you think that the people support Putin, who created 200 billionaires and a bunch of all kinds of millionaires who rob people and live abroad? No, of course, the electoral system cannot be false, because it was created by liars, crooks and thieves. Putin says one thing, does another. Faith to this government is gone.
            about Mukhin, many people like him.
            1. Pathos
              Pathos 3 June 2020 17: 02 New
              -1
              People need to thump less and lie near the zomboyaschik and do business, who wants to earn it. And tryndet not to roll bags. People in Donetsk live on a salary of 5 thousand rubles. Pension 5 thousand rubles. , the war is going on for the 6th year, devastation, but does not kneel. As Professor Preobrazhensky said, "When they stop singing in chorus and start cleaning the sheds, the devastation will disappear by itself." It's just that no one wants to put things in order in his yard himself, everyone is waiting for someone who will come and put things in order, it does not happen.
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 3 June 2020 18: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Bar1
              and you think that people support Putin,

              I don’t think, but the elections showed that the majority of the country supports Putin. You do not want to admit it?
              Quote: Bar1
              Putin says one thing, does another. Faith to this government is gone.

              Nevertheless, he has a rating that Grudinin never dreamed of.
              Quote: Bar1
              about Mukhin, many people like him.

              We need the head of the country, and not the one who writes books well.
              1. Bar1
                Bar1 3 June 2020 22: 03 New
                -3
                Quote: ccsr
                We need the head of the country, and not the one who writes books well.

                Yuri Ignatievich personally know from AVN is a person.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 4 June 2020 11: 56 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Bar1
                  Yuri Ignatievich personally know from AVN is a person.

                  We have enough personalities in the country, that's just not everyone can manage a team that still needs to be created from personalities. I also like Y. Mukhin, but it is unlikely that he has the organizational ability to lead such a country as Russia - he has no experience in managing state structures.
                  Well, besides Mukhin and Grudinin, can you still oppose someone to Putin?
          2. Pathos
            Pathos 3 June 2020 16: 53 New
            -2
            To a point, it was not enough how to choose a clown in Ukraine. The king is not real to them. laughing He may also be tired. Yesterday the king, today the king, tomorrow the king laughing
        2. Victorio
          Victorio 3 June 2020 14: 18 New
          0
          Quote: Bar1
          P.N. Grudinin is an entrepreneur whose workers live well.
          to start...

          ====
          not about this, is the sternum written here https://www.rbc.ru/society/29/10/2019/5db822bc9a7947dac59a9a21
        3. NordUral
          NordUral 3 June 2020 17: 42 New
          +1
          Well, they don't like Grudinin, at least kill yourself talking about his village and ZAO "State Farm named after Lenin", Timur. I can suggest - Nikolay Bondarenko, to begin with.
  5. NF68
    NF68 3 June 2020 16: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: Doccor18
    The hangar is the future of our military space strategy.


    I wanted it to be that way. Even with some delay.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 3 June 2020 10: 55 New
    +9
    The Angara project can be treated differently ... BUT the money invested ... the design experience has been obtained ... and it’s very good that there is an order (even if it is even the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation) ... in my opinion (I do not pretend to be true in the latter instances) it’s somehow wasteful to display the model on such an expensive product (even taking into account the risks of the test) and try something (you can get the weight of the model part) ...
    1. ultra
      ultra 3 June 2020 11: 04 New
      -8
      Quote: silberwolf88
      The Angara project can be treated differently

      You can relate in different ways, but this does not change the essence, the project is completely failed Khrunichev.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 3 June 2020 11: 23 New
        +7
        Quote: ultra
        You can relate in different ways, but this does not change the essence, the project is completely failed Khrunichev

        Does MO conclude a contract for a failed project? Recently, Moscow Region has not shown attacks of cretinism ...
      2. 210ox
        210ox 3 June 2020 11: 27 New
        0
        By the way, this project seems to be thirty years old. There already it seems necessary to re-shred everything under the equipment of today
        1. Domovenok
          Domovenok 3 June 2020 11: 32 New
          -9
          Quote: 210ox
          By the way, this project seems to be thirty years old. There already it seems necessary to re-shred everything under the equipment of today

          All cosmonautics of Russia, while based on the foundation of the USSR, and everything else ..! New are monitors and touch screens, etc. And the principles are all the same fundamental .. That is the problem of Roskosmos and other military-industrial complex!
          The dinosaurs of the developer, etc., are leaving. And there is no substitute for them!
          1. Kart
            Kart 3 June 2020 12: 51 New
            +3
            Fundamental principles have not changed since Comrade Newton.
            But with new materials and electronics there are really problems.
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 3 June 2020 17: 43 New
        +1
        The hangar was ruined not so much by Khrunichev as by leaders like Rogozin.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 June 2020 11: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: silberwolf88
      The hangar project can be treated differently ... BUT the money invested ... design experience

      It's like that. However, Musk lifted a one and a half ton little car on his "heavy" rocket. Instead of 60 tons. Convinced no one, however. Angara has to CONVINCE MO. His companions are expensive. You shouldn't risk them.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 3 June 2020 11: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Musk lifted a one and a half ton little car on his "heavy" rocket. Instead of 60 tons.

        And who didn’t weighed it before launch there? Now it’s impossible to check whether it was a car or a copy of it made of polystyrene. The place of the landing of the Americans on the moon, at least theoretically can be found and verified. Ilon acted more cunningly. wassat
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 3 June 2020 11: 34 New
        +4
        In general, Khevik completely repulsed the sheikhs from Ariane (they worked with Arian Space). The last Arabsat threw 6,5t farther than Arian, from which the customer was pleased and said that fuel economy would extend the satellite’s work relative to Arian5 for several years.

        As Arabsat CEO explained Khalid Balheiur (Khalid Balkheyour) in an interview with SpaceNews, the company chose the Falcon Heavy rocket to launch its latest satellite to extend its lifespan.

        He also said that according to preliminary calculations, the satellite received a greater impulse from Falcon Heavy and this will extend its life up to 18-20 years old.

        The expected life of satellites on the A2100 platform is 15 years, it is limited primarily by the fuel reserves necessary for corrections. The Arabsat-6A has 3 kg of fuel on board.
      3. slipped
        slipped 3 June 2020 11: 51 New
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        It's like that. However, Musk lifted a one and a half ton little car on his "heavy" rocket.


        Well, you can bring the BTR-82A, for 1000 km, or the Tiger to the intermediate GPO, though in order to deliver it to the GSO from there, you will have to install plasma engines on it, additionally. laughing Let them shoot from Cornet.
      4. Carnifexx
        Carnifexx 3 June 2020 12: 30 New
        +2
        Yes, and "shot" them to Mars, the momentum is noticeably less than 60 tons on LEO, but still. Plus FH (core stage with modification) consists of three F9 blocks, the possibilities of which are beyond doubt. The main goal of FH is to put into geostationary orbit, which allows the satellites to save fuel, which are needed for additional orbit from the GPO and maintain the position, no additional launch is needed immediately.
  • Break through
    Break through 3 June 2020 10: 58 New
    -1
    That's good
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 11: 09 New
    +2
    So MO suggests a series of launches into geostationary orbit? This makes me happy .
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 3 June 2020 12: 18 New
      -1
      Plans.
      Roscosmos General Director Dmitry Rogozin said that the first launch of the Angara-A5 rocket from Vostochny is planned for August-September 2023.

      According to his presentation, presented in May at a lecture at Moscow State University, when using the DM-03 block, the Angara-A5M rocket (the modernized Angara-A5) will be able to launch a useful load weighing 35-786 tons.

      https://www.aex.ru/m/news/2019/12/20/206263/
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 3 June 2020 11: 13 New
    -4
    so far only PR ... and no new missiles ...
    1. Kart
      Kart 3 June 2020 13: 03 New
      0
      This is not a PR, but a contract with the Moscow Region. Such contracts are usually concluded either on the finished product after testing, or 90% + finished, when the result is no longer in doubt.
      Although, with ours you can expect anything.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 3 June 2020 11: 15 New
    +1
    And in the photo old Union))
    The difficult and long fate of the Angara. But already let, I hope will soon bring to mind. This year launches from Plesetsk are planned.
  • Doctor
    Doctor 3 June 2020 11: 26 New
    +2
    Nowhere to go. Zenith - everything, Rokot, R-7 - lungs, Proton - on heptyl.
    All hope for the Angara.
  • Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 3 June 2020 11: 27 New
    -3
    geostationary orbit is good, what needs to be down, what is not, sorry, to the open spaces
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 3 June 2020 11: 27 New
    0
    And why in the article a photo of "Union"?
    1. slipped
      slipped 3 June 2020 11: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: Narak-zempo
      And why in the article a photo of "Union"?


      Most likely the photo of the Angara-A5 launch vehicle, which are many on the network, hurts someone's eyes. laughing

  • rocket757
    rocket757 3 June 2020 11: 43 New
    +1
    It’s normal, as much as possible with us, in general, specifics.
    The boom is to see who and how will cope with their work.
  • Gust
    Gust 3 June 2020 11: 59 New
    +2
    For a long time they have been sawing rocketry not only in our country - look at the "successes" of the West. NASA has been sawing the new SLS rocket for 17 years, while it is dull. Musk is a talented manager, no questions asked. But the technical level of Sokol engines is the level of the 60s. It’s bad that we don’t have our own Mask - on the ground that we have, he would have sent tourists to Mars.
    1. Kart
      Kart 3 June 2020 13: 05 New
      -1
      With our funding?
      I think I would not have reached even before speeches before the press.
      In this case, the main amount of money.
    2. Super
      Super 3 June 2020 13: 17 New
      -9
      Are you kidding me? We would have Musk for the term would have wound for a long time. In Russia, the conversation with corrupt officials and fraudsters is short.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 June 2020 12: 08 New
    -1
    Pvi1206 (Vladimir)
    so far only PR ... and no new missiles ...
    PR and the madness of incomprehensible joy and hysterical enthusiasm (all right, the Americans, who hadn't flown their own for 9 years), we saw a couple of days ago. And you probably work in the rocket industry if you are "in the know" of everything, or so does Google say?
    If the RF Ministry of Defense makes an order for launch vehicles, it means that it sees not only the need for this, but also the prospect for the future.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 3 June 2020 12: 11 New
    +1
    I wonder what the military hid behind the word "model" and how many such models are there already?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 June 2020 12: 37 New
      +3
      Technology demonstrator. Or just MGM with a telemetry unit.

      Demo1 / certification flights usually do not carry a targeted load. Just because the rocket itself and the launch can cost 100-200 million dollars, and the output load is 1 billion +. And I really do not want to lose this in an accident.
      1. Kart
        Kart 3 June 2020 13: 06 New
        +1
        That's right, it is.
      2. Raven 95
        Raven 95 3 June 2020 14: 44 New
        +6
        But aren't KA insured?
        1. Antokha
          Antokha 3 June 2020 15: 37 New
          0
          But aren't KA insured?

          I also thought about this, but then I realized that even if the money was returned, they would not return the time spent. And if such a satellite do a year or two? Better not take the risk.
  • Carnifexx
    Carnifexx 3 June 2020 12: 39 New
    -1
    The project needs to be dispersed in volumes, otherwise the launch will be too expensive. Here we are talking about 4 A5, this is great, but what about the small ones? Orders for small versions of 1.2PP could well disperse the conveyor, and this despite the fact that the overclocking unit is unified with Union 2.1v. A5 program slows down KVTK
    1. slipped
      slipped 3 June 2020 23: 29 New
      -3
      Quote: Carnifexx
      Orders for small versions 1.2PP could well disperse the conveyor


      A1.2PP is an experimental prototype for the first launch. The serial rocket is called A1.2. She has another second stage, an overclocking unit, called the Aggregate Module.



      Quote: Carnifexx
      and this despite the fact that the overclocking unit is unified with Union 2.1v.


      There is no upper stage on Soyuz-2.1v, there is a second stage - the third from Soyuz-2.1b and the Volga launching unit.

      Quote: Carnifexx
      A5 program slows down KVTK


      The A5, which is launched this year, has a Breeze-M upper stage, the same as the Proton-M and the first A5. The upper stage of the DM-14S48 family has also been created and is being tested at the cosmodrome. It will be installed on a third car.

      The upper stage of KBTK is planned after the creation of the appropriate infrastructure for working with hydrogen at Vostochny.
  • Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 3 June 2020 13: 10 New
    0
    At the beginning of this year, the presidential decree marked 25 years ago and launched the development of the Angara missile system.
    And why there were no large-scale celebrations?
  • Super
    Super 3 June 2020 13: 15 New
    -8
    That’s the difference: real Angara rockets in Russia without any fuss and empty talk and PR for the swindler Ilon Mask.
    1. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 3 June 2020 13: 56 New
      +6
      What reality are you from?
      1. Super
        Super 3 June 2020 14: 01 New
        -6
        From the same as this site. Someone apparently jars when people engage in patriotism ...
        1. Antokha
          Antokha 3 June 2020 15: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: Super
          Someone apparently jars when people engage in patriotism ...

          Something indecent is being asked for.
          Need to do business. In this case, Musk showed the result of the work. Our patriotism should consist in work and better results than Musk’s, rather than throwing it at him when you can’t argue with the result.
  • senima56
    senima56 3 June 2020 15: 04 New
    +1
    "At the beginning of this year, the presidential decree marked the 25th anniversary of the development of the Angara missile system. Since then, the serial production of these space launch vehicles has not yet reached the point ..." 25 years of the budget "master" ?! negative
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 June 2020 15: 44 New
      0
      This rocket is already morally obsolete for this and it will be released for military needs - for a citizen, at the cost of launch, it does not pull.
      1. Oleg Zorin
        Oleg Zorin 3 June 2020 15: 47 New
        -1
        Most likely this is an option to throw some money to the center of Khrunichev through the budget of the Moscow Region
    2. Antokha
      Antokha 3 June 2020 15: 46 New
      0
      Quote: senima56
      25 years of "mastering" the budget ?!

      Personally, I am developing a budget of 25 years. The salary is called. And if I’m pinned to the wall now and asked: what’s so great that you created in these 25 years? I won’t remember. Probably nothing. But I know that I lived, tried to work honestly, ate the salary I received. There were various difficulties on the way. Do you have something different? Do you know what difficulties an entire industry has faced and every person in it over these 25 years? And what is her real state on this rocket now? The beginning was under Yeltsin, they did not lose the country well. Surely in the 10s, only work became possible. And here we are sitting demanding from everyone and everything, we judge.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 3 June 2020 18: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: Anton
        And here we are sitting demanding from everyone and everything, we judge.

        I agree with your conclusion.
        What can you do, many want to feel like a "genius", and when you ask what you were a nice person in your life, led and what you achieved, it turns out that all the "accusers" did not even reach the head of the workshop of a medium-sized enterprise of the USSR, but about the entire industry come to judge.
  • Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 3 June 2020 15: 48 New
    -1
    In my opinion, this is just a masterpiece: "The Roscosmos enterprise will produce elevators with the voice of Gagarin

    Ust-Katavsky Car-Building Plant (UKVZ, part of the United Rocket and Space Corporation) has completed the certification of elevators of its own production, reports TASS with reference to the press service of the corporation.

    Elevators in front of the movement will welcome passengers with the phrase of the world's first cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin. “Let's go!”, - sounds in the speakers of the elevator before it starts to go down or up.

    Music plays during the lift. It is equipped with a mirror, handrail, multicolor display with the ability to broadcast text and slide information, and a voice informant. "
  • Old26
    Old26 3 June 2020 15: 56 New
    +3
    Quote: ultra
    You can relate in different ways, but this does not change the essence, the project is completely failed Khrunichev.

    What TK "Khrunichev" was given - and got such a rocket ...
    1. slipped
      slipped 3 June 2020 23: 44 New
      -2
      Quote: Old26
      What TK "Khrunichev" was given - and got such a rocket ...


      The task was simple - to replace the first stage heptyl rockets Cyclone and Proton-M. For some time, the first dead Cyclone was replaced by the conversion Rokot, now "it is almost replaced" by the Soyuz-2.1v launch vehicle. Over a long period of time, the A5 rocket was created, the Proton-M launch vehicle went through four phases of modernization and became more carrying capacity than the TZ on the A5. Now the A5 will have to catch up and overtake - hence the new version of the A5M from the Vostochny with a forced engine.

      But the most interesting rocket will be - A5B - it will be able to launch two six and a half ton satellites at the same time from Vostochny, or a module weighing 10 tons to the Moon.
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 3 June 2020 17: 48 New
    -6
    Quote: letinant
    They are not so scary, they just have a sabbath and aggravation now. But this is transitory.

    I agree, these sectarians have agreed almost to that. That Musk first sent people into space !?

    Musk crawled until 1961 and ..... aligned with Soviet achievements.
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 3 June 2020 17: 53 New
    -4
    Quote: Vadim237
    This rocket is already morally obsolete for this and it will be released for military needs - for a citizen, at the cost of launch, it does not pull.

    You argue so famously, as if you are familiar with the economics of manufacturing these glands.
    Start with a study of production, technological features, and, after five years, you may understand what production costs are. How can it be reduced, and where do the markups from the acquisition of components come from.