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Israel tested LORA tactical missile by deploying on a civilian ship

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The Israeli military completed the testing of a new operational-tactical missile system. It consists of a launcher and single-stage solid fuel ballistic missiles LORA.


This was reported on the official portal of the IAI concern ("Israeli aviation industry ”), which is a manufacturer of these complexes.

The tests in Israel were observed at the highest state level. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu commented on this information, calling it “good news for Israel and bad for the enemies ":

In parallel with the fight against coronavirus, we continue to ensure the security of Israel, both by defense and by attack.

Test firing was carried out in the open sea. In addition to the Israeli military, they were attended by potential buyers weapons. It is not known which countries plan to supply the missile system. There is only information about the contract for the supply of LORA to Azerbaijan.

Shooting was shot on video.


Two shots were fired. The military deployed a mobile launcher placed on a civilian ship. One of the missiles was launched 90 kilometers, and the second - 400.
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  1. Skay
    Skay 3 June 2020 09: 44 New
    +6
    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu commented on this information, calling it “good news for Israel and bad news for enemies”

    In my opinion this is bad news for Israel, for it gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any large civilian watercraft flying the six-pointed flag.
    1. svp67
      svp67 3 June 2020 09: 47 New
      16
      Quote: Skay
      In my opinion, this is bad news for Israel, because it gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any civilian craft under the six-pointed flag.

      In vain you are, any ship that will be destroyed - "casus bella".
      I've been expecting something like this for a long time, especially with the advent of missile systems sheltered in ordinary sea containers
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 June 2020 09: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        In vain you are, any ship that will be destroyed - "casus bella".

        Unless this complex falls into the hands of the "monkey with a grenade."
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 June 2020 10: 01 New
          10
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Unless this complex falls into the hands of the "monkey with a grenade."

          Under the six-pointed star?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 3 June 2020 10: 16 New
            -2
            Israel tested LORA tactical missile by deploying on a civilian ship

            Firstly. It seems that Israel has decided to sell its weapons to third countries that do not even have their own navy!

            Secondly. It seems that Israel has groped and found its niche in the civil shipping market for the demand for its military products.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 3 June 2020 10: 40 New
              +1
              Israel tested LORA tactical missile by deploying on a CIVIL ship

              Simply put, such an undertaking by the Israeli authorities suggests a beginning - gives rise to a start - by sinking all the major civilian ships of the merchant fleet in the world!

              Netanyahu is still a militarist and military provocateur in the world!
              1. Normal ok
                Normal ok 3 June 2020 11: 09 New
                15
                Quote: Tatiana
                Israel tested LORA tactical missile by deploying on a CIVIL ship

                Simply put, such an undertaking by the Israeli authorities suggests a beginning - gives rise to a start - by sinking all the major civilian ships of the merchant fleet in the world!

                Netanyahu is still a militarist and military provocateur in the world!

                Firstly, they began to disguise missiles (and not even OTRK, but strategic ones with a nuclear warhead) as civilian cargo back in the USSR! Second, Russia and China are already doing this. And thirdly, in the video, anyone who "has eyes" can see that the complex is not a marine but an automobile one. They just shoot him from a barge.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 3 June 2020 11: 13 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Normal ok
                  And thirdly, in the video, anyone who "has eyes" can see that the complex is not a marine but an automobile one. They just shoot him from a barge.
                  No difference! The main thing is that this idea was submitted by Israel with open arms.
                  Quote: Normal ok
                  First of all, they began to disguise missiles (and not even OTRKs but strategic ones with a nuclear warhead) under civilian load in the USSR! Secondly, Russia and China are already doing this.
                  Firstly. The USSR has long ceased to exist.
                  And secondly. And that this disguised Soviet cargo ever shot directly from civilian ships? I've never heard of this.
                  1. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 3 June 2020 13: 10 New
                    13
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    No difference! The main thing is that this idea was submitted by Israel with open arms.
                    Tatyana, well, you wouldn’t write about military topics. hi
                    Firstly. The USSR has long ceased to exist.
                    And secondly. And that this disguised Soviet cargo ever shot directly from civilian ships? I've never heard of such a thing.

                    "There are many such things Horatio's friend ..."
                2. avib
                  avib 3 June 2020 11: 16 New
                  12
                  That's right. Where in Israel can you shoot for 400 km? We loaded the launch platform / truck onto the ship and launched it somewhere at sea. So what to do? Although, here is a hint to some people - you can launch it from ships.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 3 June 2020 11: 41 New
                    -6
                    Quote: avib
                    Although, here is a hint to some people - you can launch it from ships.

                    It would be nice to shoot from warships, for in the modern sense, the ship is a large naval ship!
                    But it’s because in this case about shooting precisely from a CIVIL ship !!!

                    This is precisely the whole marketing essence of Israel's "market" innovation!

                    And in order to increase sales of its weapons and in the pursuit of profit, Israel is cynically ready to sacrifice peace on the planet! And the militarist Netanyahu is very happy about this and he approves!

                    This is an occasion for proceedings in the UN Security Council.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 3 June 2020 12: 06 New
                      +7
                      You strongly dislike Israel?
                      There are our compatriots and former and current 1,5 million people. And they treat us very well.
                      And the UN has lost its meaning.
                      Arms are banned in Libya.
                      Try better Turks to hold accountable. bully
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 3 June 2020 12: 15 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Alex777
                        You strongly dislike Israel?
                        You have a strange question. And why should I love him?
                        Quote: Alex777
                        There are our compatriots and former and current 1,5 million people.
                        And what from this?
                        And they treat us very well.
                        Does not look like it!
                      2. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 13: 04 New
                        -6
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Does not look like it!

                        How comes around ......
                      3. Threaded screw
                        Threaded screw 3 June 2020 13: 19 New
                        -6
                        How comes around ......
                        I decided to threaten the girls, do you want to personally communicate with me?
                      4. borberd
                        borberd 3 June 2020 13: 28 New
                        11
                        There most likely far from a girl. How is Galich -

                        "The Israeli, - I say, - the military, Known throughout the world!
                        Like a mother, I say, and like a woman
                        I demand them to answer! "

                        Apparently, your health is excellent, to win all adversaries on the Internet lol .
                      5. Threaded screw
                        Threaded screw 3 June 2020 13: 33 New
                        +1
                        on the internet of all adversaries win lol.
                        Someone else must do this thankless job laughing
                    2. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 13: 52 New
                      0
                      And they treat us very well.
                      Does not look like it!

                      I REPLIED How comes around ......
                      Quote: Threaded screw
                      I decided to threaten the girls, do you want to personally communicate with me?

                      1 I ask you not to poke!
                      2 What have you combed?
                      On the subject, please.
                3. Alex777
                  Alex777 3 June 2020 13: 59 New
                  +1
                  So what about the Turks? Where is your indignation? smile
                  And they treat us very well.
                  Does not look like it!

                  Along the way, have you ever been able to visit Israel? wink
                  Otherwise there would be no such statements.
                4. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 3 June 2020 23: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: svp67
                  Quote: Skay
                  In my opinion, this is bad news for Israel, because it gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any civilian craft under the six-pointed flag.

                  In vain you are, any ship that will be destroyed - "casus bella".

                  What other "casus bella" if Israel is bombing anyone it wants. Without any incidents.
                  And with Syria, in general, he quite officially considers himself at war with some shaggy year.
                5. Alexey Ilyin
                  Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 15: 51 New
                  0
                  Iran openly threatens to destroy Israel and is trying to create its missile bridgehead in Syria. Therefore, Israel cuts off Iranian missile tentacles on Syrian soil. Syria itself also always sponsored anti-Israeli terrorist groups, including Hezbollah and, unlike Egypt, did not go to the world with Israel. In a recent interview with RT, Bashar al-Assad said that they in Syria do not recognize the existence of the Israeli people. So they get what they deserve. Although the vast majority of Israeli attacks are carried out on Iranians, their proxies and their targets on the territory of Syria, and not on the Syrians themselves, but when the Syrians meet, they also fall under the hand. In short, the Assad regime is an accomplice to the Iranian regime, and the accomplice of the offender is responsible for the crime just like the offender himself. In this case, the offender is Iran, and the accomplice is Syria. So much for a damn.
            2. Elephant
              Elephant 3 June 2020 16: 44 New
              -3
              Quote: Alex777
              You strongly dislike Israel?

              Similar toys in the hands of Israel can easily provoke a military conflict and even a big war. To commit meanness and provocation is their calling card. I can recall how the Russian Il-20 in Syria was put under attack by the Israeli Air Force.
            3. Alex777
              Alex777 3 June 2020 16: 56 New
              +1
              The Israelis shot down the IL-20?
              No. Everything else is husk.
              Very sorry for our pilots. I have no words.
              To speculate on a tragedy is an unworthy occupation.
              Similar toys in the hands of Israel can easily provoke a military conflict and even a big war.

              Komsomolets flyer? bully
              Israel has a lot of things in its hands, right up to the TNW.
              If you read - who started the war there - it will be easier to live. Calm down.
              Israel won all wars. Fact. Our immigrants with Afghan experience were involved in a pinch. They were very severe.
              I am not the protector of Israel.
              Just explaining how things are. hi
            4. Alexey Ilyin
              Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 07 New
              0
              Israel has much more serious toys. No one in their right mind, except for terrorists, will use a barge when there are warships. There is no need for this and this is stupid because it exposes the crew of such a vessel to the threat of imminent death. In this case, improvised means were used to demonstrate the capabilities of the rocket and nothing more.
              As for the downing of the IL-20, this is a consequence of the negligence of the Russian military commanders in Syria and the stupidity of their Syrian fosterlings. Israel is completely unacceptable there and even honest and decent Russian military pilots and air defense officers recognized this. The F-16 pilot would not be able to hide behind Ilom-20 on a collision course (which was the case) even if desired - this is said by professionals. Plus, Israel did not have the slightest incentive to spoil good relations with the Russian Federation. But through the mouth of MORF, Konashenkov spread a deliberate lie to preserve the honor of his uniform and showed great meanness, trying to blame his guilt on another. The Kremlin knows this very well and therefore let the whole thing down on the brakes. The coordination between the Russian and Israeli military in Syria was not interrupted for a single day. That says a lot. Actions are more important than words.
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 3 June 2020 16: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Tatiana
          But the point is that in this case we are talking about firing from a CIVIL ship !!!

          Madam, let's dot the I's.
          An armed "civilian ship" ceases to be such and becomes a military one. The Germans had such "raiders" such as the famous "Orion". We have "patrol" ships of the "Sibiryakov" type, which entered the battle with the heavy German cruiser "Admiral Scheer", but did not lower the flag.
          Therefore, any ship, having installed on board a launcher with a missile system, becomes a "combatant" and loses the immunity of a "civil" ship. The sinking of such a "ship" will no longer be considered by the m. Military court as an act of piracy.
          1. Elephant
            Elephant 3 June 2020 16: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Therefore, any ship, having installed on board a launcher with a missile system, becomes a "combatant" and loses the immunity of a "civil" ship.

            Well, who will determine this, is there a missile launcher on a civilian ship?
        3. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 3 June 2020 23: 34 New
          +3
          But the point is that in this case we are talking about firing from a CIVIL ship !!! ... Tanyusha (with respect). you read the fonkland showdown. or as its Argetinians call the Maldives tragedy, and you will understand everything. there the main role was played not by battleships. destroyers. aircraft carriers and stuff and dry cargo ships. tankers and lighters (container carriers). that’s how it is, and so far no one has canceled it, so it’s not worth it to stifle the Jews about this and it’s empty
  2. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 3 June 2020 11: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Simply put, such an undertaking by the Israeli authorities suggests a beginning - gives rise to a start - by sinking all the major civilian ships of the merchant fleet in the world!

    This can be done much easier and much cheaper.
    1. Elephant
      Elephant 3 June 2020 16: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      This can be done much easier and much cheaper.

      Shaw, is it cheaper to hire pirates? ))). But seriously, of course this weapon is not for sinking the entire merchant fleet, as Tatyana claims. But it is clearly suitable for carrying out provocations against geopolitical opponents, Iran and others.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 June 2020 18: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Elephant
        But it is clearly suitable for carrying out provocations against geopolitical opponents, Iran and others.

        This can be said about any type of weapon. And the Israelis can be envied, they have a lot of innovations, the country is small, and practically all weapons have their own production, and not even bad.
  3. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 13: 02 New
    +8
    Quote: Tatiana
    Simply put, such an undertaking by the Israeli authorities suggests a beginning - gives rise to a start - by sinking all the major civilian ships of the merchant fleet in the world!

    Netanyahu is still a militarist and military provocateur in the world!

    Steam released, feel better?
    A NOW AS AN EXISTENCE.
    Azerbaijan demonstrated its recently acquired LORA artillery system during a visit by the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Ilham Aliyev, to the new military unit of the Missile Forces of the Ministry of Defense.

    And suddenly on wheels (look carefully at the clip), or maybe on a ship, or maybe on any platform
    And the launch was carried out from the offshore platform since there is no place for testing in Israel and to reduce the number of people due to the crown.
  4. 210ox
    210ox 3 June 2020 13: 27 New
    +6
    Tatyana, by the way, we can be called pioneers in this matter. Back in the 50s there were proposals to deploy a powerful warhead on a merchant ship. And now, why not place the complexes in the same wagons or ships supposedly civilian. Remember a few years ago we showed our complex in a sea container.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 3 June 2020 14: 10 New
      -7
      Quote: 210kv
      Remember a few years ago we showed our complex in a sea container.

      Firstly, I don’t remember.
      And secondly, it was unlikely that he was there to the container to shoot from there!
      TRANSPORTATION OF WEAPONS AND ITS USE ON A CIVILIAN ship are two DIFFERENT things!

      And now we have an aggravation of the international situation at the initiative of Washington / USA.
      At a time when the US is intensifying in the TRADE WAR with the same China in the Pacific, as well as with Japan’s increased claims to the Russian Federation for the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin with constant contraband fishing by the Japanese in Russian waters, the data show the aspirations of Israel, the US ally in the BV and at the UN, - they should cause and cause SPECIAL suspicions!
      Why not understand something here ?!
      1. AUL
        AUL 3 June 2020 15: 46 New
        +9
        Quote: Tatiana
        Firstly, I don’t remember.
        And secondly, it was unlikely that he was there to the container to shoot from there!
        TRANSPORTATION OF WEAPONS AND ITS USE ON A CIVILIAN ship are two DIFFERENT things!

        Tatyana, you have already been advised that the military theme is not yours. Well, not yours at all. I fully subscribe to this opinion. You should read first about Clabs, and then - DO NOT write!
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 3 June 2020 15: 51 New
          -4
          Quote: AUL
          military topics are not yours

          I will tell you frankly the same.
          What are the fundamental classical issues of political marketing marketing no matter what - namely, how the product is brought to market - this is not yours either!
          1. AUL
            AUL 3 June 2020 15: 54 New
            +5
            Quote: Tatiana
            And the issues of political marketing in trade no matter what - namely, how the product is brought to the market - is also not yours!

            Well, if this is your strong point - write about this topic! And about the "pieces of iron" - no need, do not disgrace yourself!
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 3 June 2020 15: 57 New
            -3
            And I do not disgrace. You simply did not read the essence of my rationale.
            You are considering the missile system itself. And I see in the nonsense of its use from the platform of a merchant ship by Israel as a successful marketing move - trade know-how - to expand its sales and the possibility of getting it into private hands - the so-called. "monkeys with a grenade".
          3. borberd
            borberd 3 June 2020 22: 08 New
            +3
            Exactly what a shame. They explained to you several times that the Israelis in the installation of missile launch containers on bulk carriers are far from pioneers. But you, with tenacity worthy of a better application, broadcast the same thing, and off topic.
          4. Tatyana
            Tatyana 3 June 2020 22: 28 New
            -3
            Quote: borberd
            Exactly what a shame. They explained to you several times that the Israelis in the installation of missile launch containers on bulk carriers are far from pioneers. But you, with tenacity worthy of a better application, broadcast the same thing, and off topic.

            It is you who are not "catching up" with what is being discussed, and you are trying, together with the Israelis, to divert attention away from the problematic essence of the DEMONSTRATION of the Israeli ROK from the platform of a CIVIL ship before the TRADE deal.

            Read carefully my comments and the comments of those participants who understand the essence of the problem and think the same way as I do!
            I read all the comments and I won’t change my point of view, because as a marketer I’m right. And just right.
          5. boss
            boss 4 June 2020 00: 52 New
            -1
            But what's the difference where, for example, hail to shoot?
            They explained to you that there is no problem in using a civilian ship; it simply ceases to be peaceful.
            In the same article, the firing range of 400 km was indicated and that there is simply NO such distance for safe trials in Israel.
            Why did you decide that this is marketing, and not a necessary measure, I won’t think
          6. Tatyana
            Tatyana 4 June 2020 08: 01 New
            0
            Quote: patron
            Why did you decide that this is marketing, and not a necessary measure, I won’t think

            Because this is the real MARKETING, because this "" forced measure "is connected precisely:
            1) with TRADE (!) WEAPONS ()
            2) and with the DEMONSTRATION by the PURCHASE trader (!)
            You will not deny the fact that Israel under the guise of testing in this demonstrated a "purchase" to a buyer - Azerbaijan?
            There would not be an act of sale and purchase, it could still be justified by a necessary measure to test new products.
            But no! And again no! MARKETING is present! Why not understand something here?
            The "Washington Regional Committee" would raise a howl and impose sanctions against Russia or Iran, the DPRK and other countries !!! And again SANCTIONS !!! And Israel is "HOLY"! "FAVORITES" can do anything!
          7. Tatyana
            Tatyana 4 June 2020 09: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: patron
            Why did you decide that this is marketing, and not a necessary measure, I won’t think

            Because this is pure marketing under the flag of "FORCED action!
            The article says
            Test firing was carried out in the open sea. Besides the Israeli military, They were attended by potential buyers of weapons. It is not known which countries plan to supply the missile system. There is only information about the contract for the supply of LORA to Azerbaijan.
            And that's it.

            Moreover, in political marketing, at the same time, the DOUBLE STANDARDS of the "collective West" in relation to the construction in Germany by Russia are outraged. "SP-2", which, unlike weapons, does not shoot at all!
            The marketing situation with coercive measures in Israel and the Russian Federation is after all the same. Namely.

            Russia has gas contracts for gas supplies to Europe, and Russia’s - nosebleeds - must be implemented. However, Bandera Ukraine is stealing the Russian transportation of Russian gas to Europe in commonwealth with the same Poland. And everyone knows this well.
            What is Russia forced to do? FORCED to build "SP-2" bypassing Bandera all Ukraine.
            Recognizes Washington Regional Committee FORCED MEASURES OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION IN CONSTRUCTION OF SP-2 BYPASSING UKRAINE? No, does not recognize! On the contrary, the United States themselves provoke them.
            Why then should we recognize Israel's “FORCED MEASURES” to test their weapons in case of SURPRISE trade transactions for the sale of their weapons to other countries? Should not be in principle! Not to mention the military side of things.
  • Alexey Ilyin
    Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 18 New
    0
    Tatyana, you’re just pulling this case wherever it belongs. Well, don’t need to pull the owl on the globe. It hurts her.
  • Hydrogen
    Hydrogen 3 June 2020 14: 55 New
    +1
    And how to react in this case to our special train of the Strategic Missile Forces. This gives an occasion to our enemies to destroy any civilian personnel.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 3 June 2020 15: 12 New
      -1
      Quote: Hydrogen
      And how to react in this case to our special train of the Strategic Missile Forces. This gives an occasion to our enemies to destroy any civilian personnel.
      During the Second World War, all enemy trains on both sides were destroyed. But this is during the war!

      And now our special train of the Strategic Missile Forces is moving along its own - RUSSIAN - territory!
      And the marketing know-how of Israel in this case is such that the launcher can be used from a civilian vessel to attack foreign merchant ships and warships in international NEUTRAL waters!
      This is an occasion to start the HOT phase of conducting a NEW war between countries!
      1. Hydrogen
        Hydrogen 3 June 2020 15: 26 New
        0
        In cases of World War II, the line between civilian and military transport will be washed away, as it was in WWII. In local conflicts, I don’t think that all civilian vessels will be at risk. The launch of a rocket in the prince can be freely calculated.
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 3 June 2020 17: 39 New
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    Israel tested LORA tactical missile by deploying on a CIVIL ship

    Simply put, such an undertaking by the Israeli authorities suggests a beginning - gives rise to a start - by sinking all the major civilian ships of the merchant fleet in the world!

    Netanyahu is still a militarist and military provocateur in the world!

    I wonder what they say to these tests in the overseas "regional committee"? If Russia conducted tests of its Club missiles at sea, from their TPK similar to ordinary containers, this would, I think, start a universal screeching, but now what will they say?
  • AUL
    AUL 3 June 2020 14: 16 New
    +6
    Quote: Tatiana
    Firstly....
    First, where did you get the idea that these missiles are purely naval weapons? They were only tested from the ship!
    Secondly, where is the civil shipping market, and where is the arms trade? And the demand for their military products is already quite large.
    And finally, are you sure that Azerbaijan does not have its own Navy?
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 3 June 2020 15: 32 New
      -6
      Quote: AUL
      First, where did you get the idea that these missiles are purely naval weapons?

      No difference! The main thing is that Israel has proved that the missile system can also be used in marine conditions!
      Quote: AUL
      Are you sure that Azerbaijan does not have its own navy?
      Yes, Azerbaijan just bothers me the least!
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 22: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Tatiana
        Yes, Azerbaijan just bothers me the least!

        What about marketing?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 3 June 2020 22: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Quote: Tatiana
          Yes, Azerbaijan just bothers me the least!
          What about marketing?

          In the sense of marketing, I already wrote which particular regions, from a political point of view, I now care most about and why. Namely the Mediterranean and the Pacific.
          Quote: Tatiana
          And now we have an aggravation of the international situation at the initiative of Washington / USA. At a time when the US is intensifying in the TRADE WAR with China in the Pacific region, as well as with Japan’s growing claims to the Russian Federation on the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin with constant contraband fishing by the Japanese in Russian waters, the data of the aspirations of Israel - the US ally in the BV and the UN - should arouse and cause SPECIAL suspicions! Why not understand something here ?!
  • Alexey Ilyin
    Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 15: 17 New
    0
    Azerbaijan has a fleet on the Caspian Sea. He is small, but he is. And here is civil shipping? The Israelis simply demonstrated the live use of the rocket, using improvised means for this.
    The missile and its characteristics are important, not the ship from which it is launched. In any fleet, a missile will be installed on warships.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 5 June 2020 15: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey Ilyin
      Azerbaijan has a fleet on the Caspian Sea. He is small, but he is. And here is civil shipping? The Israelis simply demonstrated the live use of the rocket, using improvised means for this.
      The missile and its characteristics are important, not the ship from which it is launched. In any fleet, a missile will be installed on warships.
      The problem is deeper than you think. And I already answered everyone this question.
      It's all about conniving military-political marketing on the part of Israel, as well as the United States and the "collective West" in general, against Russia! Namely.

      Quote: patron
      Why did you decide that this is marketing, and not a necessary measure, I won’t think
      Because this is pure marketing under the flag of "FORCED action!
      The article says
      Test firing was carried out in the open sea. In addition to the Israeli military, they were attended by potential buyers of weapons. It is not known which countries plan to supply the missile system. There is only information about the contract for the supply of LORA to Azerbaijan.
      And that's it.

      Moreover, in political marketing, the DUAL STANDARDS of the "collective West" in relation to the construction of "SP-2" in Germany by Russia, which, unlike weapons, does not shoot at all, is also outraged!
      The marketing situation with coercive measures in Israel and the Russian Federation is after all the same. Namely.

      Russia has gas contracts for gas supplies to Europe, and Russia’s - nosebleeds - must be implemented. However, Bandera Ukraine is stealing the Russian transportation of Russian gas to Europe in commonwealth with the same Poland. And everyone knows this well.
      What is Russia forced to do? FORCED to build "SP-2" bypassing Bandera Ukraine.
      Recognizes Washington Regional Committee FORCED MEASURES OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION IN CONSTRUCTION OF SP-2 BYPASSING UKRAINE? No, does not recognize! On the contrary, the United States themselves provoke them.
      Why, then, should we recognize Israel's “FORCED MEASURES” for testing its weapons with Israel CONCLUDING trade deals to sell its weapons to other countries? Should not be in principle! Not to mention the military side of things.
  • max702
    max702 3 June 2020 11: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Unless this complex falls into the hands of the "monkey with a grenade."

    Under the six-pointed star?

    Here the answer is simple ..
  • Oden280
    Oden280 3 June 2020 14: 08 New
    0
    He is already in their hands.
  • Mitroha
    Mitroha 3 June 2020 09: 52 New
    +9
    Americans planning ammunition on transport sides, OTR Israelis on civilian ships.
    As I understand it, in conflicts any side of the enemy, flying or floating, will soon be destroyed. For they will be equated with military ones, due to the potential presence of strike weapons
    1. really
      really 3 June 2020 11: 56 New
      -1
      It has always been so.
    2. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 3 June 2020 13: 11 New
      -1
      A bit wrong. This is a new round of military technology. Why build warships if weapons can be placed on a simple barge? Progress has come to the point that you do not need to store all the eggs in one basket (boat, ship). On one ship planes. On another EW. On the third air defense system. In fact, the ship was divided into independent compartments with a narrow specification. And this must have greatly reduced the cost and vitality. If each system is two or three? How to drown the whole group? If to drown an aircraft carrier is a problem, then to drown such an assembly spaced into different vessels is probably not realistic at all!
      1. Alexey Ilyin
        Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 26 New
        0
        Missiles on a barge mean the inevitable loss of crew. Only terrorists can do this, but not the Armed Forces of the country.
    3. Professor
      Professor 3 June 2020 20: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Mitroha
      Americans planning ammunition on transport sides, OTR Israelis on civilian ships.
      As I understand it, in conflicts any side of the enemy, flying or floating, will soon be destroyed. For they will be equated with military ones, due to the potential presence of strike weapons

      Are you talking about disguising the PU ICBMs as refrigerators on wheels?
  • Skay
    Skay 3 June 2020 09: 53 New
    +7
    I've been expecting something like this for a long time, especially with the advent of missile systems sheltered in ordinary sea containers

    Yes, such complexes have been around for a long time. Even with us. But, EMNIP, it is prohibited by international laws to arm civilian vessels. Israel took a dangerous step.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 3 June 2020 10: 23 New
      -2
      Skay (Sergey) Today, 09:53 NEW
      +3
      I've been expecting something like this for a long time, especially with the advent of missile systems sheltered in ordinary sea containers

      Yes, such complexes have been around for a long time. Even with us. But, EMNIP, it is prohibited by international laws to arm civilian vessels. Israel took a dangerous step.
      On their allies, mericatos equal.
    2. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 3 June 2020 13: 20 New
      +1
      Prohibited!? Who can object to this? Foreign legions is how? PMC how? Is it progress or struggle? What can be opposed and who will do it? Ukraine against? Balts against? What are the countermeasures? The arrest of Israeli accounts? The ban on the supply of products from Israel? The deportation of the Jews? What does it mean forbidden? We are forbidden to ride without a license. But Baghdasaryan is driving! A lifelong presidency seems to have been banned!
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 13: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Skay
      Yes, such complexes have been around for a long time.

      Yes, a similar Iskander 3, but there is a set of guidance systems, including satellite reconnaissance (spy)
    4. AUL
      AUL 3 June 2020 14: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Skay
      But, EMNIP, it is prohibited by international laws to arm civilian vessels. Israel took a dangerous step.

      And why did you suddenly decide that the barge with which the rocket was launched does not belong to the Israeli Navy?
      1. opus
        opus 3 June 2020 19: 40 New
        +3
        Quote: AUL
        Doesn't belong to the Israeli Navy?

        not belong
        a land mobile launcher was placed on a civilian ship.


        Due to COVID-19 limitations, the test was conducted using the mobile testing area.
        The test was conducted on the high seas to demonstrate LORA features to IAI client.
    5. Alexey Ilyin
      Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 29 New
      0
      This is no dangerous step. This is just the use of improvised tools (barges) to demonstrate the capabilities of this system.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 3 June 2020 09: 58 New
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    You shouldn't have it, any ship that will be destroyed - "case belle".

    did Israel ever get confused by such nonsense? No.
    Quote: svp67
    I've been expecting something like this for a long time, especially with the advent of missile systems sheltered in ordinary sea containers

    yes, the world has become even more fragile: suspicion, uncertainty will grow. fear and unforeseen, spontaneous reactions
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 June 2020 14: 01 New
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    I've been expecting something like this for a long time, especially with the advent of missile systems sheltered in ordinary sea containers

    And here the question comes back to our container complexes with Caliber.
  • Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 3 June 2020 15: 55 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    I've been expecting something like this for a long time, especially with the advent of missile systems sheltered in ordinary sea containers

    But note, this is no different from the privateers / auxiliary cruisers of both WWI and WWII times, right? And at this stage (their application), everyone has long spit on the "casus belli" - mochilovo is in full swing.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 3 June 2020 09: 54 New
    13
    Quote: Skay

    In my opinion this is bad news for Israel, for it gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any large civilian watercraft flying the six-pointed flag.

    And under any other? request request We simply do not have training grounds where we could test OTR of such a range.
    1. Skay
      Skay 3 June 2020 09: 56 New
      -2
      And under any other?

      And under any other who repeats this experience. But you first started.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 3 June 2020 12: 11 New
        +2
        Do you have reliable information?

      2. Alexey Ilyin
        Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 33 New
        0
        First? Surround yourself. Many others began to do this a long time ago, including the USSR / RF. Yes, and this essentially does not mean anything. For the use of such funds, they would never have been shown to the whole world, but would have been tested quietly. In this case, it’s just marketing a rocket, not a barge.
    2. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 10: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      We simply do not have training grounds where we could test OTR of such a range.

      Nishtyak excuse. But will he agree to use the landfill in the USA - no, no? Or from South Africa? experience with testing what you don’t have, but what you will definitely apply. Although I hope such tests will give an impetus to our container Club (Caliber). And then something was made up for him.
      1. borberd
        borberd 3 June 2020 14: 05 New
        +3
        With South Africa, after the blacks came to power, there are no relations at all. It’s expensive to transport to the USA. And then they went to sea, announced the site as a closed military zone, and tested it. Why complicate it?
    3. antivirus
      antivirus 3 June 2020 10: 09 New
      -4
      We simply do not have training grounds where we could test OTR of such a range.

      --- tankers and gas carriers? all under suspicion of Iran!
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 June 2020 11: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      We simply do not have training grounds where we could test OTR of such a range.

      Well, that’s the whole story. Why tantrums escalate is incomprehensible.
    5. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 3 June 2020 13: 25 New
      -2
      Come on, get pissed off, no polygons! And Ukraine ?! Ukraine is not under the external control of Israel? The Russian city of Odessa stably gives out Jewish humor!
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 3 June 2020 13: 51 New
        +1
        Unfortunately, Odessa is still a Ukrainian city, otherwise people would not have been burned and shot there.
        To at least a little understand read:
        https://vz.ru/news/2020/6/3/1042888.html
        The most interesting thing at the end. About the discussion about the use of the word *** in Ukraine.
    6. Olgovich
      Olgovich 3 June 2020 13: 59 New
      -2
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      We simply do not have training grounds where we could test OTR of such a range.

      and nowhere else in the world does it exist?

      Poor Israel, it’s forced to get out, really! lol
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 3 June 2020 14: 06 New
        +4
        Quote: Olgovich

        and nowhere else in the world does it exist?

        Poor Israel, it’s forced to get out, really! lol
        which means "in the world". Why do we need someone to ask when we can conduct the shooting ourselves?
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 3 June 2020 17: 30 New
          -2
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          which means "in the world". Why do we need someone to ask when we can conduct the shooting ourselves?

          You mentioned the landfill.

          And now he is already .... not needed request
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 3 June 2020 17: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: Olgovich
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            which means "in the world". Why do we need someone to ask when we can conduct the shooting ourselves?

            You mentioned the landfill.

            And now he is already .... not needed request

            So why pay for the landfill if you can shoot at sea? request
    7. Maikcg
      Maikcg 3 June 2020 14: 26 New
      +2
      Is it weak from the shore to the sea? laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef 3 June 2020 18: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: MaikCG
        Is it weak from the shore to the sea? laughing

        Indeed, was it weak from the shore?
        I recall here about one test,
        August 8, 2019 in the Russian media there were reports of an explosion at a marine rocket range (No. 45) at the settlement of Nyonoksa. The number of deaths from the explosion varies, according to various media reports, from 1 to 9 people, the number of "injured" - from 9 to 15 people.

        In the city of Severodvinsk, located 30 km away, there was a 3-fold increase in the radiation background. At 95 km from Nenoksa is located the 350th city of Arkhangelsk.

        At the time of the explosion, two unidentified persons were noticed near the 9M730 rocket launcher, one presumably - barge and “transport tanker” of project 1591 “Serebryanka”».

        Well, the fact that the petrel was launched from the barge doesn’t cause any indignation, but in Russia there is such a territory, what was asked over the sea?
        From a barge, a nuclear cruise missile (more precisely, with a nuclear engine)
        Strange. wink
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 3 June 2020 09: 55 New
    +1
    The destroyer hasn't grown yet. And it won't grow. "Don't wait" - Rabinovich. In addition, the strike of nuclear weapons (which Israel still does not have) on all the shrines of Muslims in the case of a large mahach, starting from Mecca, NOBODY has canceled.
    1. 416D
      416D 3 June 2020 16: 22 New
      0
      Hands will not reach Mecca, or rather missiles will not reach. The security there is different, not entirely Arab.
  • Domovenok
    Domovenok 3 June 2020 10: 08 New
    -2
    Quote: Skay
    In my opinion this is bad news for Israel, for it gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any large civilian watercraft flying the six-pointed flag.

    Do you think they will place them under their flag? This is Israel .. laughing
    1. Alexey Ilyin
      Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 42 New
      0
      Rather: This is Russia. She will never admit her guilt and, as always, will blame others.
  • Civil
    Civil 3 June 2020 10: 41 New
    +1
    Our idea was stolen, for a long time there is a caliber in a sea container.
  • Sly
    Sly 3 June 2020 10: 42 New
    +7
    Quote: Skay
    In my opinion this is bad news for Israel, for it gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any large civilian watercraft flying the six-pointed flag.

    Did you watch the video? It shows that the launch is made with MOBILE installation.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 3 June 2020 14: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Skay
    gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any large civilian watercraft flying the six-pointed flag

    Even on suspicion of having ties to Israel. Who will interpret how.
  • cormorant
    cormorant 3 June 2020 14: 36 New
    +3
    the destruction of any large civilian craft under the six-pointed flag
    Do they have them? For all his life at sea he has not seen a ship flying a six-pointed flag. If someone says about ZIM, there is no fleet there. All vessels are chartered with foreign shipowners.
  • opus
    opus 3 June 2020 19: 29 New
    +7
    Quote: Skay
    for the destruction of any large civilian craft flying a six-pointed flag.

    take it easy. The sea and the ship were used only because Israel is so limited in landfills (where the buns fall), and they didn’t want to frighten either their Russian colleagues or Iranian + telemetry with start-up, and didn’t want to give subordinates Shoigu
    Israel Length - about 470 km, and the width in the longest section is only about 135 km.


    There is no where to shoot at 90 km, and at 400 ...
    Quote: Tatiana
    Secondly. It seems that Israel has groped and found in the civil shipping market its trading niche for the demand for its military products

    Quote: svp67
    sea ​​containers of missile systems

    the ship has nothing to do with it. This is a complex ground mobile PU


    Laura does not start from a sea container.
    it starts from TPK

    1. sen
      sen 5 June 2020 04: 00 New
      +1
      Laura does not start from a sea container.
      it starts from TPK

      LORA missiles are placed in a transport and launch container, which can be stored without maintenance for up to 7 years. The complex is also being developed in a marine version. In this case, the missiles can be placed in a standard sea transport container of four ammunition.
      https://nplus1.ru/news/2020/06/03/container
      1. opus
        opus 5 June 2020 12: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: sen
        https://nplus1.ru/news/2020/06/03/container

        such a drop dead reputable source ....
        better to use E. Damantsev's cooler
  • Motorist
    Motorist 3 June 2020 21: 18 New
    0
    iron argument for the destruction of any large civilian craft

    The ships are probably foreign. They also tried to charter this from our shipping company. Many different strange conditions; I remember that the galley was "kosher" (whatever that means ...) and the crew were not Russians (in the broad sense of the word).
  • iouris
    iouris 3 June 2020 21: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Skay
    iron argument for the destruction of any large civilian craft under the six-pointed flag

    Real launches will be made from ships flying the flag of Kampuchea or Liberia.
  • ruivit1988
    ruivit1988 3 June 2020 09: 48 New
    +4
    In the event of war, civilian ships will be indiscriminately drowned
    1. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 3 June 2020 13: 31 New
      -2
      In case of war, they will wet the civilians! Dresden, Nagasaki, weddings, funerals ...! Tactics are known. They have developed the technology.
      1. Oleg Zorin
        Oleg Zorin 3 June 2020 13: 50 New
        +4
        Rotterdam, Warsaw, Kiev, Coventry, London ... As far as it comes, it responds
  • nobody111body
    nobody111body 3 June 2020 09: 48 New
    -2
    Jews strongly support the smoldering conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh; one of the first diversions sponsored by a bunch of American Jews on the territory of the Soviet Union
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 3 June 2020 09: 55 New
      19
      Quote: nobody
      Jews strongly support the smoldering conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh; one of the first diversions sponsored by a bunch of American Jews on the territory of the Soviet Union

      Well yes. And the supply of weapons from the Russian Federation and Armenia and Azerbaijan is only in the name of peace. wink
      1. nobody111body
        nobody111body 3 June 2020 10: 08 New
        -7
        and your Jews from America deliver Israeli ef35 to the world for you; why do you paint your star of David on them for chtoli's beauty or nowhere to put the paint?
      2. Domovenok
        Domovenok 3 June 2020 10: 13 New
        -8
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well yes. And the supply of weapons from the Russian Federation and Armenia and Azerbaijan is only in the name of peace

        Well, there seems to be peace there for a long time .. Azerbaijan tanks, Armenia anti-tank weapons, etc. If Israel, the USA, didn’t stick their nose with the Turks, we would have reconciled them for a long time! hi
        1. wmn5500
          wmn5500 3 June 2020 11: 24 New
          +7
          There is no peace in Karabakh! And how would you reconcile? Not long ago, Lavrov voiced a phased settlement plan, so in response the Armenian side had real hysteria. The Armenian side does not want any reconciliation except the direct surrender of Azerbaijan. And as if reconciliation would be organized here, for nearly 30 years this reconciliation has not progressed. You would first study the issue and then write.
        2. really
          really 3 June 2020 12: 00 New
          -3
          System Hurricane or Typhoon? How is Chechnya?
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 3 June 2020 13: 53 New
            +1
            Michelle! Where are you so smart from?
            1. really
              really 3 June 2020 13: 58 New
              -2
              From where you come from.
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 3 June 2020 14: 00 New
                +1
                You are mistaken. Where I come from aren’t so smart.
                1. really
                  really 3 June 2020 14: 04 New
                  +2
                  Well, call me, I think about everything well, first drinks
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 3 June 2020 15: 13 New
                    +1
                    What do you have to do with Chechnya that you think so?
                    1. really
                      really 3 June 2020 15: 28 New
                      +1
                      I have been living for a long time and have the right to my opinion, and you have the right to disagree with him.
                      Second, this was an answer not to you, but to another commentator regarding peacekeeping. As you understand, the use of these systems is possible only in the event of military operations to liberate or seize territories, and completely neglect the life and property of the local population.
                      1. Alex777
                        Alex777 3 June 2020 16: 03 New
                        +1
                        I also live a long time.
                        Not to mention something you don’t understand is the main sign of a mature man. IMHO.
                        The Typhoon system does not exist in Russia.
                        But in Ukraine there is such a system, but in Chechnya it was not used. bully
                        The use of APU of such systems in the Donbass, against civilians, do you want to discuss?
                        https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2019/10/21/12768926.shtml
                      2. really
                        really 3 June 2020 16: 57 New
                        +2
                        Really confused Typhoon and Tornado.
                      3. Alex777
                        Alex777 3 June 2020 17: 02 New
                        +1
                        Typhoon mixed up. And Chechnya too.
                        I am from those places. So do not argue.
  • Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 3 June 2020 11: 49 New
    +6
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    And the supply of weapons from the Russian Federation and Armenia and Azerbaijan is only in the name of peace.

    Are you Aron? How dare you think so about holy armor? It is the most humane in the world and TOS-1A, which burns everything in areas, first to Azerbaijan and when it was used in 2016 and sold it to Armenia. And you "shameless" Jews sold OTRK with KVO 10 meters.
    They are against the war, for peace, friendship and chewing gum. You see one tank for another ATGM)) And sworn Americans are so bloodthirsty who don’t sell anything to Armenia and Azerbaijan, so the animals want to make a conflict for anyone at the borders of Russia)) Oh, the mysterious Russian soul))
  • borberd
    borberd 3 June 2020 14: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: nobody
    Jews strongly support smoldering conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh

    So, do you think the Jews helped the Armenians capture Karabakh, and now they are helping the Azerbaijanis return it? Nda .., your broken logic is not available to me. belay
  • knn54
    knn54 3 June 2020 09: 50 New
    0
    Jewish "Iskander-E". but.
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 3 June 2020 10: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: knn54
      Jewish "Iskander-E". but.

      The warhead is weaker - if I’m not mistaken about 400 kg, and at a range of up to 400 km - two hundred with something. Yes, and overall weight characteristics vary significantly. Although the weapon is certainly very dangerous and very accurate
      1. Peter is not the first
        Peter is not the first 3 June 2020 16: 16 New
        +1
        wink How accurate it is, it is far from accurate. laughing In the view, it was clearly seen that the missile missed ten centimeters to the left relative to the center of the target.
        And to be honest, then a worthy weapon for their own purposes.
    2. Domovenok
      Domovenok 3 June 2020 10: 11 New
      -10
      Quote: knn54
      Jewish "Iskander-E". but.

      Taki yes ..! During the riots in the United States, in this way Israel is trying to scare the countries around it .. Typically, without a hesitation! They are scared in Israel, without the United States hi
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 June 2020 11: 21 New
      +5
      This is not Iskander, but anti-Iskander.
      The missile is designed to destroy short-range ballistic positions. Which Iran passes to the radical Shiite organization of Hezbollah. And which are installed at positions deep in Lebanon.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 3 June 2020 13: 57 New
        +2
        And here you are very excited about the "anti-Iskander".
        I am sure you understand that there are no Iskanders there and will not be there.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 June 2020 14: 24 New
          +4
          Well, I tentatively called it that. We are worried about BR missiles with a range of 150-300 km. Aviation will not have time to dunk them if it is noticed that they are preparing to launch. This requires its own BR for "counter-battery combat". LAURA is already in service. A new version of it was tested.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 3 June 2020 15: 46 New
            +2
            Judging by the demonstration of accuracy, it is not only about counter-battery struggle. soldier
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 3 June 2020 16: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        This is not Iskander, but anti-Iskander.
        Warrior, at least you got a little excited! laughing
        Add one more step to the Israeli "LORE" so that the anti-Iskander turns out bully Iskander has a range of 500+, although ours beat themselves in the chest with the heel, proving that - "up to 500 and not a single KM more!"
        But the Yankees know how to count (at-two!) ... There, too, engineers are not done with a finger, they understand what's what!
        AHA.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 June 2020 16: 58 New
          +2
          Why are you sure that Laura also has no "reserve"? wink
          This is achieved, as on Iskander, by reducing the weight of warheads.
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 3 June 2020 17: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            This is achieved, as on Iskander, by reducing the weight of warheads.

            This is counterproductive - to reduce the power of the BZO! It is better to fill the checker with a more high-calorie TT or, reducing the weight of the warhead, fill it with a more powerful explosive. Because It’s not rockets that hit (they deliver), namely the BZO! Therefore - the more accurate and powerful - the very thing! yes
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 3 June 2020 17: 38 New
              +4
              "Therefore - the more accurate and powerful - the more" ////
              ----
              If a high accuracy of hit is achieved, but a large warhead power is not needed.
              A tiny rocket from a drone quietly destroys a tank with an accurate blow to the roof of the tower.
              This formula - accuracy / power - applies to BR.
              LORA - lightweight, plastic housing.
              It takes off for the same 40-50 km, in a matter of minutes it reaches the goal. In order to hit and damage the enemy’s PU, a lot of explosives are not needed.
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 June 2020 10: 11 New
    10
    Everyone did not seem to understand. smile
    This is not a marine complex. It will be deployed only on land.
    But the test was carried out from a barge. Because we have no place on land. The country is small. laughing
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 3 June 2020 10: 39 New
      -8
      Quote: voyaka uh
      This is not a marine complex. It will be deployed only on land.
      But the test was carried out from a barge. Because we have no place on land. The country is small.

      as Stanislavsky said, I don’t believe enough distance from Eilat to the Knesset for testing, and the Jews themselves would not mind.
    2. Skay
      Skay 3 June 2020 10: 40 New
      -2
      This is not a marine complex. ... But the test was carried out from a barge.

      Jewish logic, it is so logical ... fellow
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 3 June 2020 14: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: Skay
        This is not a marine complex. ... But the test was carried out from a barge.

        Jewish logic, it is so logical ... fellow

        That's right. Why shoot across the country when it can be done at sea?
    3. vvvjak
      vvvjak 3 June 2020 11: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Because we have no place on land

      So what is the problem of shooting from the coast into a target at sea.
      1. really
        really 3 June 2020 13: 59 New
        +2
        Safety precautions, it suddenly goes wrong
        1. vvvjak
          vvvjak 3 June 2020 14: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: really
          Safety precautions, it suddenly goes wrong

          Interesting idea. It means that in the event of an unsuccessful launch, the safety equipment allows to drown the vessel, but there is no shooting.
          1. really
            really 3 June 2020 14: 28 New
            +2
            And you didn’t think about residential areas, a small country, a different look.
            1. vvvjak
              vvvjak 3 June 2020 14: 36 New
              0
              Quote: really
              And you didn’t think about residential areas, a small country, a different look.

              What are the residential areas in the sea? We (in the Republic of Belarus) faced this problem when testing the Polonez MLRS, and as a result, they were carried out in China. But who's stopping to shoot with shores в sea.
              1. really
                really 3 June 2020 14: 59 New
                +4
                Almost the entire coast is populated, if something happens with the rocket, it doesn’t fly there, it’s a loss, but victims are possible, and if abroad, then a scandal with an unknown ending. And so they came up and showed at the same time both sea and land capabilities. wink
          2. borberd
            borberd 3 June 2020 14: 31 New
            +3
            The entire coastline is built up with housing and public beaches. Therefore, the test at sea, far from the inhabitants, is the most logical and safe.
    4. MMX
      MMX 3 June 2020 11: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Everyone did not seem to understand. smile
      This is not a marine complex. It will be deployed only on land.
      But the test was carried out from a barge. Because we have no place on land. The country is small. laughing


      I also don’t understand that it’s breaking my head there. The video clearly shows that the launch from a mobile installation installed on a truck (which is on a civilian ship). The first thought was even - cheated!
    5. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 3 June 2020 13: 37 New
      -2
      The country is small !? Less barge or what?
      But the test was carried out from a barge. Because we have no place on land. The country is small.
      wassat
  • Dva parovoza
    Dva parovoza 3 June 2020 10: 13 New
    -1
    I draw your attention to the fact that the tractor of the launcher is not something other than the MAZ, and therefore: there are vague doubts that the shown action is not a fake, or the test is not at all Israeli ...
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 June 2020 10: 13 New
    +1
    The tests in Israel were observed at the highest state level. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu
    Under the comrade Kim canals! laughing
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 3 June 2020 10: 20 New
    0
    Quote: Tatiana
    Israel tested LORA tactical missile by deploying on a civilian ship

    It seems that Israel has decided to sell its weapons to third countries that do not even have a navy!

    Do you think that a rocket can only be launched from a craft? Analogue of Iskander.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 3 June 2020 10: 22 New
    -5
    first shaving with their BAE systems came up with blocks that allow mimics to mimic civilian vehicles; now Jews with strike weapons on a civilian ship.
    My question is, are they preparing for a total-bad war ?! When everything is destroyed, peaceful not peaceful ...
    1. Alexey Ilyin
      Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 56 New
      0
      Just some kind of idiocy. Sheer paranoia. And most likely just nitpicking for Israel. If Russia did (and she did), then everyone would approve.
  • Operator
    Operator 3 June 2020 10: 41 New
    -13
    After the United States merges, it is necessary to organize a total air, sea and land blockade of Israel to curb the spread of illegal missile technology bully

    Well, at the same time for violating a bunch of decisions of the UN Security Council on ending the Israeli occupation of the state of Palestine and the international zone of Jerusalem.
    1. really
      really 3 June 2020 12: 04 New
      +4
      You are going to live a long time, commendable.
    2. Alexey Ilyin
      Alexey Ilyin 5 June 2020 16: 58 New
      0
      Well, you will not wait. Empty dreams. By the way, Israel did not support the sanctions against the Russian Federation, although the United States was very dissatisfied with this.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 3 June 2020 10: 49 New
    +1
    the line between the concepts of military and civilian objects is erased ... the trend is not new ... the consequences in any conflict lead to escalation and mutual accusations of the parties ...
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 3 June 2020 11: 18 New
    +3
    Such complexes were in the Soviet Union, which were disguised as harmless containers on a cargo ship))
  • Elephant
    Elephant 3 June 2020 11: 19 New
    -2
    Placing missiles on civilian vessels is extremely dangerous and can lead to unauthorized uncontrolled launch of such a missile. Given the massive civilian courts, it will be difficult to track the launch of a rocket.
  • Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 3 June 2020 11: 26 New
    +8
    OTRK LORA is already in service with the army of Azerbaijan!

    They arrived on the Mazov chassis along with the RZSO Polonaise!


    Technical characteristics of OTRK LORA:
    Mass: 1,7 t
    Length: 5 m
    Warhead mass: 400 (high-explosive fragmentation), 600 kg (penetrating)
    Diameter: 610 mm
    Range: 250-300 km
    Trajectory height: 45 km
    Control system: ANN integrated with GPS
    Accuracy (CVO): 10 m
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 3 June 2020 12: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: Lek3338
      OTRK LORA is already in service with the army of Azerbaijan!

      That's good, the main thing is not to forget that the best "wunderwaffe" in this case is the negotiating table, which is much more useful for both Azerbaijanis and Armenians.
  • Ilya_Nsk
    Ilya_Nsk 3 June 2020 11: 26 New
    +2
    Boyan .. Did you hear about Club-K? In my opinion, "Caliber" grew out of there ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 3 June 2020 11: 46 New
    0
    Offer \ route for everyone else pave.
    However, we have "Club - K", so sho there is nothing new in that.
  • 013Azer
    013Azer 3 June 2020 13: 09 New
    +5
    On the chassis of MAZ, and the only strategic client will go these complexes.
    Recently, Ilham Aliyev visited the city of Agstaf, was in a new military unit, where he was shown a lot of equipment with posters of their technical characteristics, among them the OTRK Lora. Judging by the performance characteristics they are version 430km / 240kg bch. Maybe other versions exist with us, but these were shown to him.


    The first line with the inscription "Maksimal atış məsafəsi:" - i.e. Maximum firing range - ..
    Here is a polonaise, the range is designated as 300 km, which proves once again that we do not have A200 missiles, and not BR M20, but A300 missiles


    And then EXTRA, the image quality let us down, but there is an inscription of 150 km, in the fifth line from above

    Missiles of all 3 systems managed
  • Shahno
    Shahno 3 June 2020 13: 24 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Skay
    In my opinion, this is bad news for Israel, because it gives its enemies an iron argument for the destruction of any civilian craft under the six-pointed flag.

    In vain you are, any ship that will be destroyed - "casus bella".
    I've been expecting something like this for a long time, especially with the advent of missile systems sheltered in ordinary sea containers

    That's right. Given that we don’t know what charge there is in Laura, what is there?
    And it may be a submarine, do not find ..
    Even without applying the triad, who is here in BV wants to be opposed?
  • Maikcg
    Maikcg 3 June 2020 14: 23 New
    +2
    Released gin.
    Chase! Attack! Drown everyone! © Grand Admiral Doenitz
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 June 2020 14: 26 New
    +1
    North Korea also shoots at sea .... there are no polygons. The only thing is, if the Jews were going to sell a rocket, the agreement implies up to 299 km. And then, after all, other exporters will begin to sell their BR with a range of over 300 km. And this is unlikely to please Israel and the United States.
    1. Professor
      Professor 3 June 2020 20: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      The only thing is, if the Jews were going to sell a rocket, the agreement implies up to 299 km.

      Which contract? Israel assumed no obligations.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 3 June 2020 21: 27 New
        0
        Well, others will say the same. Pakistan, CHINA, DPRK, IRAN
        1. Professor
          Professor 4 June 2020 06: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Well, others will say the same. Pakistan, CHINA, DPRK, IRAN

          Signed an agreement, comply. do not comply, to the answer.
          Did not sign the contract, send all the forest.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 4 June 2020 11: 10 New
            0
            I agree. Sanctions ended, supply weapons.
  • Samara
    Samara 3 June 2020 14: 27 New
    -1
    I used to remember such topics on the VO website for 1000 comments typed .. wink
    Now modestly so laughing Mostly Jews and goyim write and praise ... wassat
    Well, that’s life .. We’ll read and crying
    1. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 3 June 2020 17: 17 New
      -1
      Quote: Samara
      Mostly Jews and goyim write

      there are other options?
    2. atalef
      atalef 3 June 2020 21: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Samara
      Mostly Jews and goyim write and praise

      Vitalik . actually the whole world is made up of Jews and gentiles. goy (Hebrew) is not a Jew.
      No others . laughing
  • Alex2
    Alex2 3 June 2020 14: 38 New
    -3
    There is a strong indignation on the face of what happened. Should Israel kneel and raise its hands to the top?
    1. Samara
      Samara 3 June 2020 17: 07 New
      -2
      Quote: Alex2
      There is a strong indignation on the face of what happened. Should Israel kneel and raise its hands to the top?

      This is not necessary already .. And then again they will demand a counter-demand))))
      Let the tankers sail away with missiles ..))))
      PS We have a Jewish Autonomous Region in Russia since the time of Stalin (even more on the territory of Israel and there are no Arabs! "Here we are waiting ..)))
  • yfast
    yfast 3 June 2020 14: 47 New
    -1
    You can simulate GPS, jam GPS, as a last resort to bring down all visible GPS satellites and apologize. Will the rocket fly somewhere?
    1. really
      really 3 June 2020 15: 33 New
      0
      Everything is possible, a question of money, and whether you have it in the right amount.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 3 June 2020 17: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: yfast
      Will the rocket fly somewhere?

      Take a closer look at the moment of BR splashing into the red circle!
      Only OPTICS can provide such accuracy !!!
      Our 3M729 with optics on moving pounding for a healthy life!
      Interesting: our Jews managed to transfer our know-how to relatives in Israel
      or is still ahead? lol
      1. Professor
        Professor 3 June 2020 20: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Interesting: our Jews managed to transfer our know-how to relatives in Israel
        or is still ahead?

        Ahead, ahead. Do not strain.
    3. andreykolesov123
      andreykolesov123 3 June 2020 17: 18 New
      -2
      Quote: yfast
      You can simulate GPS, jam GPS

      only civilian.
    4. Professor
      Professor 3 June 2020 20: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: yfast
      You can simulate GPS, jam GPS, as a last resort to bring down all visible GPS satellites and apologize. Will the rocket fly somewhere?

      Of course fly. It is known that it is aimed at a target not by satellite signals and actively maneuvers in the final section of the trajectory making it not knocked down for enemy air defense.
  • Yellow bubble
    Yellow bubble 3 June 2020 15: 17 New
    +2
    The world has become even more dangerous, sorry.
    1. Samara
      Samara 3 June 2020 15: 22 New
      -3
      Quote: Yellow Bubble
      The world has become even more dangerous, sorry.

      Read the title of the article Dmitry !!!! ..Another country in the world didn’t set up the world so much as Israel announced the deployment of missiles on civilian ships ..
      And no one decree? Afraid ..USA is now not up to them! But so threaten, substituting civil courts .. It's Jewish ..
      1. Yellow bubble
        Yellow bubble 3 June 2020 15: 43 New
        +1
        We also place rockets in containers, that's a fact! Where I want, I’ll put it there, ship, train, wagon.
        1. Samara
          Samara 3 June 2020 16: 15 New
          -3
          Quote: Yellow Bubble
          We also place rockets in containers, that's a fact! Where I want, I’ll put it there, ship, train, wagon.

          Well, we don’t feel so openly as the Jews .. They are trying to intimidate
          1. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 3 June 2020 17: 21 New
            0
            Quote: Samara
            Well, we don’t feel so openly as the Jews .. They are trying to intimidate

            You should be scared, all these systems are designed against Iran and its proxies. Because of him, by the way, you have graters in Syria
            https://topwar.ru/171761-tancy-na-blizhnevostochnyh-grabljah.html
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 3 June 2020 17: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: Samara
        Quote: Yellow Bubble
        The world has become even more dangerous, sorry.

        Read the title of the article Dmitry !!!! ..Another country in the world didn’t set up the world so much as Israel announced the deployment of missiles on civilian ships ..
        And no one decree? Afraid ..USA is now not up to them! But so threaten, substituting civil courts .. It's Jewish ..

        The headline is ridiculous. The barge was used as a base for the landfill, and not as a demonstrator of the ability to place a rocket there.
        1. atalef
          atalef 3 June 2020 17: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          The headline is ridiculous. The barge was used as a base for the landfill, and not as a demonstrator of the ability to place a rocket there.

          Aron, hello, I read both the article and the comments. I'm just in shock, people do not suck?
          Stubbornness is the first sign of dullness.
          Well, they cannot understand that there is simply nowhere to test a rocket with a range of 400 km in Israel.
          That the barge is just a stupid platform and nothing more, and that it has nothing to do with accommodation on civilian vessels.
          Damn, even though the count on the head is not understood
          I would like to recall the late Zadoniy with his aphorism, for some reason said exclusively about amers.
          1. muham
            muham 3 June 2020 19: 41 New
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            I would like to recall the late Zadoniy with his aphorism, for some reason said exclusively about amers.
            What is your evidence? what did he mean by Americans?
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 22: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Damn, even the count on the head teshi do not understand

            Yes they all understand, not their fault
          3. stone
            stone 4 June 2020 08: 49 New
            +1
            There is inadequate, of course, but many understand quite well. And you look at bmpd comments. Here there is a complete dump wink
        2. Samara
          Samara 4 June 2020 09: 09 New
          -4
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          The barge was used as a base for the landfill, and not as a demonstrator of the ability to place a rocket there.

          Otmazalas and we supposedly believed Aron .. laughing wink
  • Yellow bubble
    Yellow bubble 3 June 2020 15: 31 New
    +1
    Russia was surrounded nowhere else, the flight of a rocket from the Baltic to St. Petersburg was no more than a couple of minutes, and we didn’t have a chance to snap, we all had a ride, our youth did not see anything except a keyboard and mouse, where is the initial military training? Where are shooting ranges in schools? Who knows where the bomb shelter is next to the house? The war is not far off, again we will pay with blood.
  • Old26
    Old26 3 June 2020 15: 42 New
    +4
    Quote: Tatiana
    Firstly. The USSR has long ceased to exist.
    And secondly. And that this disguised Soviet cargo ever shot directly from civilian ships? I've never heard of this.

    There were such projects. On ice-class ships of the "Amguema" type and on oceanographic ones. I don't remember exactly the number of the project, it seems 902 or 906 and 1111, but the name of the project is "Scorpio". Depending on the type of vessel, it was planned to install from 3 to 8 (EMNIP) SLBMs. There was also a project of a submersible launcher for 8 UR-100M missiles. However, the SALT-2 treaty stipulated a ban on this kind of weapon if its range exceeds 600 km. That is, you can place ballistic missiles on de in your territorial waters, on barges and ships, but on condition that the range of such a system is no more than 600 km. Anything more in range - ONLY on submarines.

    Quote: Tatiana
    But the point is that in this case we are talking about firing from a CIVIL ship !!!

    This is most likely EXPERIENCE vessel. So it will not be an occasion to discuss this at the UN

    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Nishtyak excuse. But will he agree to use the landfill in the USA - no, no?

    The Bolorians wanted to agree with us to test their "Polonaise" at our test sites. The result of this desire to recall? A seemingly fraternal country. In addition, if this is an experimental vessel, which is for sure so, then they can test at least intercontinental missiles from it. To deploy - this will already be a violation (although they did not sign this agreement)

    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Although I hope such tests will give an impetus to our container Club (Caliber).

    But our "Caliber" on a civilian vessel in a container, if it is not an experimental vessel, but a civilian one, and with a civilian flag, is an act of piracy. If you want to place a container installation "Caliber" on such a vessel - raise the flag of the Auxiliary Fleet Forces - and go ahead. But then on this ship it is impossible to get close to the enemy. Can drown as a preventive measure ...

    Quote: Civil
    Our idea was stolen, for a long time there is a caliber in a sea container.

    Yeah! In the exhibition version.
  • 416D
    416D 3 June 2020 16: 20 New
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    Yes, Azerbaijan just bothers me the least!


    Sadly sad
  • KURT330
    KURT330 4 June 2020 07: 03 New
    -1
    [/ quote] There is only information about the contract for the supply of LORA to Azerbaijan. [quote]

    LORA has been in Azerbaijan for several years.
    Perhaps we are talking about a more advanced version.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 4 June 2020 09: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Samara
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    The barge was used as a base for the landfill, and not as a demonstrator of the ability to place a rocket there.

    Otmazalas and we supposedly believed Aron .. laughing wink

    Type it someone cares. Did you believe sir or not.
  • Old26
    Old26 4 June 2020 16: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
    A bit wrong. This is a new round of military technology. Why build warships if weapons can be placed on a simple barge? Progress has come to the point that you do not need to store all the eggs in one basket (boat, ship). On one ship planes. On another EW. On the third air defense system. In fact, the ship was divided into independent compartments with a narrow specification. And this must have greatly reduced the cost and vitality. If each system is two or three? How to drown the whole group? If to drown an aircraft carrier is a problem, then to drown such an assembly spaced into different vessels is probably not realistic at all!

    You can bring this idea to absolute insanity. On air defense ships separately carry missiles, separately - BG. Such a system would become extremely vulnerable. It’s enough to sink or damage an individual ship and the whole system will crumble like a house of cards

    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    This is counterproductive - to reduce the power of the BZO! It is better to fill the checker with a more high-calorie TT or, reducing the weight of the warhead, fill it with a more powerful explosive. Because It’s not rockets that hit (they deliver), namely the BZO! Therefore - the more accurate and powerful - the very thing

    Why, Alexander. Replace a high-explosive warhead of 500 kg and a contact detonation with a cassette of 300 kg warheads with SPBE, which opens at a height of 0.5-2 km and the effect will be much significant
  • Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 5 June 2020 08: 35 New
    0
    And they said that it was impossible, they said, it is necessary to build a frigate for God knows how many billions, 2 things a year, to accommodate 16 Calibers. And a dry cargo ship for 100 thousand tons bought in Korea for the same money is "not true."