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Accompaniment by the Ukrainian Air Force planes of the American B-1B over the Black Sea reminded the plot of "Mowgli"

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US strategic bombers B-1B Lancer continue to participate in the updated Pentagon program "to maintain strategic stability in different regions of the world." The American military department itself gave such a loud assessment to its program, trying to cover up the actual provocations with beautiful words about stability.


Recall that a few days ago, American strategic bombers flew in mid-air between the two islands that make up the Kuril chain. After that, they entered the airspace over the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. Also, the B-1B Lancer flew over the Black Sea, moreover, having completed training on the use of anti-ship weapons. We are talking about the AGM-158C LRASM, which were adopted by the United States only about 2 years ago.

What does the development of anti-ship application say? weapons aircraft-based, made by the B-1B Lancer in the Black Sea?

Given that several NATO countries (Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey) and those countries that position themselves as “hot allies” of the USA (Ukraine and Georgia) have access to the Black Sea, it can hardly be assumed that the AGM-158C LRASM "conditionally used" on allied ships. It remains Russia. Well, it was not the Abkhaz fishing boats that were going to “conditionally drown” the American strategic bombers ...

The fact that the maneuvers were precisely anti-Russian in nature is also confirmed in the American press. Thus, the publication of The Drive indicates that the United States has demonstrated capabilities that pose a big problem for the Russian Navy. The very appearance of the B-1B Lancer over the Black Sea in the United States was called the "obvious signal of Russia."

It is worth noting that the B-1B Lancer, flying from an air base in South Dakota, was joined at one of the flight stages by Ukrainian Air Force fighters.



I recalled the plot from "Mowgli", where one famous character curiously turns around a tiger - "And we will go north."

Accompaniment by the Ukrainian Air Force planes of the American B-1B over the Black Sea reminded the plot of "Mowgli"


In Kiev, they declared "solidarity" and "readiness to continue moving towards strengthening cooperation between Ukraine and NATO."

Recall that as the US "strategists" approached the air borders of the Russian Federation, Russian fighters, including the Su-27 and Su-30, were sent to intercept.

Photos used:
frame from the film "Mowgli" ("Soyuzmultfilm", artists A. Vinokurov, P. Repkin)
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 3 June 2020 07: 39 New
    +1
    I recalled the plot from "Mowgli", where one famous character curiously turns around a tiger - "And we will go north."


    JACKAL yes

    - "And we will go to north Russia "

    - "And we will go to north Russia "

    "America is with us" (C) 2014
    1. Smolin
      Smolin 3 June 2020 07: 45 New
      -43
      yeah, news for fans of cartoons. And what about those who do not watch cartoons? Imagine there are ones too! Can you explain for non-initiates what this means?
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 3 June 2020 07: 53 New
        37
        Quote: Smolin
        And what about those who do not watch cartoons? Can you explain for non-initiates what this means?

        Cartoons do not watch books do not read.
        For some reason I feel sorry for such people.
        1. novel66
          novel66 3 June 2020 10: 11 New
          +8
          but do not feel sorry for them! such a choice!
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 3 June 2020 10: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: novel xnumx
            but do not feel sorry for them! such a choice!

            He is, apparently. loves:
            03,06,2020 US President Donald Trump instructed to organize span of military equipment over Washington on Monday night as a "show of strength" amid protests that began after the death of African American George Floyd in Minneapolis, the Associated Press reports.


            and they fly over the Black Sea .....

            They would have to figure HOME ...

            Let them demonstrate and ... train over WASHINGTON
            1. novel66
              novel66 3 June 2020 10: 28 New
              +3
              and the demonstrative launch of "axes" on the protruding ???
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 3 June 2020 10: 38 New
                +1
                Quote: novel xnumx
                and the demonstrative launch of "axes" on the protruding ???

                And -Stinger -in response ....

                It would be a good workout.

                And most importantly, at home, and not on the borders of others ...
                1. novel66
                  novel66 3 June 2020 10: 46 New
                  +3
                  And most importantly, at home, and not on the borders of others.
                  exactly!! let at least all "burkes" devastate
          2. boni592807
            boni592807 5 June 2020 13: 42 New
            0
            You are right, Tobacco, I sacrifice first. They are priceless, but useful to Sher Khan. hi
      2. Mitroha
        Mitroha 3 June 2020 07: 55 New
        14
        The United States has demonstrated capabilities that present a major challenge to the Russian Navy.

        That is, the approach to the Black Sea B-1B, in case of conflict, they consider it feasible? E-mine, well, we are not doctors, to convince all patients. Let them think
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 3 June 2020 08: 01 New
          +4
          Quote: Mitroha
          That is, the approach to the Black Sea B-1B, in case of conflict, they consider it feasible?


          Infographics from the dill resource, on which they evaluate the airspace overlap zone with S-400 complexes located on the Crimean peninsula, over the Black Sea.
          And if we add "Syrian" air defense systems to this, the picture for the United States and NATO looks even more sad.

          1. Avior
            Avior 3 June 2020 08: 11 New
            -17
            This picture makes sense if the Americans fly above 10 km
            And B1B was specially created for the breakthrough of air defense at extremely low altitudes with automatic enveloping of the terrain
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 3 June 2020 08: 19 New
              14
              Quote: Avior
              This picture makes sense if the Americans fly above 10 km
              And B1B was specially created for the breakthrough of air defense at extremely low altitudes with automatic enveloping of the terrain

              Against the background of the developer's declared characteristics of the range of "overlap" by the S-400 complex in height:
              The boundaries of the cover zone in height from aerodynamic targets (km):
              maximum - up to 30 (40Н6Е rocket) / up to 27 (48Н6ДМ missiles) / up to 35 (9М96М missiles)
              minimum - 0,005

              - I am in difficulty - to believe you or them request what
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              2. Avior
                Avior 3 June 2020 08: 52 New
                12
                So, let's get you out of difficulty.
                At least 5 m - this means that the rocket can hit the target minimally at this height.
                But first you need to find it.
                But this is hindered by concepts such as the horizon and the range of radio visibility.
                No matter how wonderful the radar station is, the Earth remains spherical, or, as some say, round.
                And because of this roundness, the detection range of low-flying targets, especially over uneven terrain, is incomparably shorter than the instrumental capabilities of the radar.
                To calculate simply, you need to take the square root of the height of the radar antenna, add the square root of the target height in meters to it, and multiply by 4,1 - you get the range of radio visibility in kilometers.
                For example, an antenna standing at a height of 50 m (the square root is 7) will see the plane at the same height
                4,1 * (7 + 7) = 57,4 km
                if it does not interfere with the relief, as from the coast to the sea, for example.
                If above the ground, it makes sense to divide by one and a half or two due to the influence of the terrain.
                at a target height of 5 m with the same antenna on a hill of 50 m
                4,1 * (7 + 2) = 37 km at best
                and nothing can be done about it
                So you can believe both - and me and "them" safely smile
                hi
                1. Charik
                  Charik 3 June 2020 09: 58 New
                  +2
                  So around Crimea there is no terrain, except from Ukraine
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 3 June 2020 10: 13 New
                    +1
                    and there is.
                    Over the sea, radio visibility and detection range are greater.
                    But even a flat surface can fly.
                  2. ancient
                    ancient 3 June 2020 14: 58 New
                    0
                    Quote: Charik
                    So around Crimea there is no terrain, except from Ukraine

                    Exactly there there is no relief at all ... almost a plain.
                    And the hills and the massif begins with Kachi in the west and further through the south along the entire coast of Crimea, right up to Feodosia wink
                    1. KVIRTU
                      KVIRTU 5 June 2020 21: 52 New
                      0
                      Almost none :) 1200 m altitude is nonsense for the air defense radar :)
                      But in fact, for 48 families of missiles: "... The boundaries of the affected area, km: - long range for aerodynamic targets, 150. - long range for ballistic targets (by target designation) 40. - long range for low-flying targets (h = 50-100m) 28-38 - close 5 Height of target destruction, km: - minimum 0.010 - maximum 27
                      Source: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/s-300pm/ VTS "BASTION" AVKarpenko "
                2. Doctor
                  Doctor 3 June 2020 10: 19 New
                  13
                  But first you need to find it.

                  You made a cruise missile from this crocodile.

                  As a person who regularly sat on the CP of the RTV brigade for 3 years, I can say that not one modern strategist has a chance to go unnoticed to our borders.
                  No matter at what height. Including super stealths
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 3 June 2020 10: 49 New
                    0
                    he has cruise missiles too.
                    24 AGM-158.
                    1. Doctor
                      Doctor 3 June 2020 10: 51 New
                      +2
                      he has cruise missiles too.
                      24 AGM-158.

                      That is yes. This is a real and fundamental threat. They have plans to do so (at least 20 years ago) - first, the Kyrgyz Republic on air defense facilities. Then everything else.
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 3 June 2020 13: 05 New
                        0
                        It’s just impossible to put rockets in Ukraine - the distance is more than 500 km, the Americans have no such land-based
                        Even if they are, their installation will be known
                        Aviation is another matter, it is real to launch a sudden launch
                      2. ancient
                        ancient 3 June 2020 15: 11 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Avior
                        Americans do not have such land-based

                        And where did it go ... RGM / UGM-109E Tactical Tomahawk .. belay request
                        .
                        Quote: Avior
                        Aviation is another matter, it is real to launch a sudden launch

                        I agree here good
                      3. Avior
                        Avior 3 June 2020 15: 29 New
                        -4
                        There are no land-based Tomahawks now.
                        They were called Griffin, they were removed from service in the 80s.
                        Now they are developing ground Tomahawks.
                        Agm158 is a much more advanced and expensive stealth rocket than Tomahawk.
                      4. ancient
                        ancient 3 June 2020 16: 08 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Avior
                        There are no land-based Tomahawks now.

                        But how long will it be returned ?, After all, this modification is fresh (adopted for service in 2004), and the AGM-158 JASSM in 2003 ..... wink
                      5. Avior
                        Avior 3 June 2020 18: 19 New
                        -1
                        there are no launchers, so no one has returned.
                      6. ancient
                        ancient 3 June 2020 18: 46 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Avior
                        there are no launchers, so no one has returned.

                        I see .... already read drinks
            2. ancient
              ancient 3 June 2020 15: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: Arzt
              They have plans to do so (at least 20 years ago) - first, the Kyrgyz Republic on air defense facilities. Then everything else.

              Be surprised, but with us too bully
              This is the standard tactics for maintaining a database (reconnaissance, autopsy, destruction and creation of a passage corridor or breakthrough, etc.) But this is for an overland theater, and here the targets are ships and navies wink
        2. ancient
          ancient 3 June 2020 15: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Arzt
          no modern strategist has a chance to go unnoticed to our borders.

          So they tell you that the "strategist" of a potential adversary no longer has any need to approach to strike directly at the borders of the state ... by the way, ours is the same wink It is time.
          Well, since you, as you say - As a person who regularly sat on the CP of the RTV brigade for 3 years, should be familiar with such .. "pictures" wink
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 4 June 2020 09: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: ancient
            Well, since you, as you say - As a person who regularly sat at the command post of the RTV brigade for 3 years, you should be familiar with such .. "pictures"

            I have never been an air defense officer, and I see such "pictures" for the first time, but I dare to assume that they display "flares" from interference from electronic warfare equipment ...

            For some reason, it seems that they look +/- something like this.
            1. ancient
              ancient 4 June 2020 10: 21 New
              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              , but I dare to assume that they display "flare" from the interference of electronic warfare equipment ...

              Absolutely true (but approximately the same "pictures" on the screens of airborne radar wink ).
              This I answered the opponent’s thesis - "no modern strategist has a chance to approach our borders unnoticed."... well, did he find a lot of "flare" from targets? wink
    2. kpd
      kpd 3 June 2020 08: 54 New
      +3
      When flying below the radio horizon - target detection by a regular radar of the complex will be impossible. So when flying at low altitude, the detection radius decreases.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 3 June 2020 10: 33 New
        +7
        When flying below the radio horizon - target detection by a regular radar of the complex will be impossible.

        Complex S-400? Maybe. But there are already 3 regiments of RTV. Stations are located, as it should be on a roller coaster.
        "Sky-M" sees up to Turkey.
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 3 June 2020 11: 47 New
          0
          Well, during combat use, the B1B will have security and cover with electronic warfare systems, in addition, the LRASM has a range of almost 1000 kilometers (there is also no problem with guidance if we had the Legend satellite constellation in the 80s, then the Americans probably now have a modern analog), in addition, the JASSM-XR is now being developed with a range of 1600 kilometers. The Americans plan to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and coastal infrastructure with a large number of such missiles. 4th B1B can launch 96 anti-ship missiles, it will be almost impossible to repel them with the number of anti-aircraft missiles that are on the ships. The only option is electronic warfare and fighter aircraft that will cover the ship's composition by intercepting missiles on the approach, the S-400 can also help if the A-50U illuminates targets, and the ships are not far from the coast.
          1. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 3 June 2020 14: 28 New
            0
            The Americans plan to destroy the Black Sea Fleet and coastal infrastructure with a large number of such missiles. 4th B1B can launch 96 anti-ship missiles, it will be almost impossible to repel them with the number of anti-aircraft missiles that are on ships.


            Yes, my friend you arranged a direct war. Take it easy. We all see who is fighting. What a weapon.
          2. Avior
            Avior 3 June 2020 14: 47 New
            -3
            A -50 can really highlight the goal?
            It’s for detection
          3. ancient
            ancient 3 June 2020 15: 24 New
            0
            Quote: Lt. air force reserve
            The only option is electronic warfare and fighter aircraft that will cover the ship’s crew intercepting missiles on approach,

            Everything is so, only the IA will not be enough and "the zones of responsibility of the ZRV and the IA will completely overlap ... there will be ..." problems. "
            In addition, do not forget that the B-1B will come not only with shock, but also with "support" and ... will release (ty) a "heap" of Miniature Air Launched Decoy - Navy (MALD-N) missiles ... then what shall we do? recourse
        2. ancient
          ancient 3 June 2020 15: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Arzt
          "Sky-M" sees up to Turkey.

          So to .. "Turkish coast" only 550 km .. in a straight line (across the sea), and the CD and anti-ship missiles fly at what range? wink
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist 3 June 2020 16: 43 New
        0
        Periscope is an excellent radar. When A. Zuev (July 17, 1961 (1961-07-17) - June 10, 2001) - the captain of the USSR Air Force, in 1989 he hijacked a MiG-29 fighter from the Mikha-Tskhakaya airfield (Georgia) to Turkey, he was accompanied by the Periscope radar "(without failure), stationed in the mountains in the N. Athos region to the Turkish Trabzon, the flight was carried out over the sea at an extremely low altitude, below the horizon. And now the possibilities are even greater.
        1. ancient
          ancient 3 June 2020 19: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: 4ekist
          MiG-29 from the Mikha-Tskhakaya airfield (Georgia) to Turkey was accompanied by the Periscope radar

          Yes, "accompanied", but up to a distance of 100 km (and then at the expense of exceeding +300 meters above sea level). and that's it ... further ... nothing.
          And for "reference" wink (if we take this particular "Periscope", centimeter range wink
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist 3 June 2020 23: 19 New
            -1
            Accompanied to Trabzon (see range), where he successfully sat down. And the excess above sea level was about 800m.
            1. ancient
              ancient 4 June 2020 10: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: 4ekist
              Accompanied to Trabzon (see range), where he successfully sat down.

              How do you write there ...... "learn materiel"? wassat
              Trabzon is 247 km in a straight line, and the maximum excess of the terrain in the region of New Athos is + 300 m. wassat
    3. ancient
      ancient 3 June 2020 14: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Insurgent
      Against the background of the developer's declared characteristics of the range of "overlap" by the S-400 complex in height:

      Dear Avior explains to you that B-1B does not need to "climb" to such heights ... from the word .. ALL !!!
      And you give data on the "altitude" of the S-400.
      And Lancer will enter the launch line in the Aegean or Sea of ​​Marmara and ...... what will you get? wink
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 3 June 2020 16: 51 New
        +1
        In this case, we will not get it. It remains to hope for vigilance and learning the duty shifts of air defense calculations.
        1. ancient
          ancient 3 June 2020 18: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: 4ekist
          In this case, we will not get it. It remains to hope for vigilance and learning the duty shifts of air defense calculations.

          That's right ... well, and on .. ". Reconnaissance" bully
      2. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 3 June 2020 19: 22 New
        0
        Quote: ancient
        And Lancer will enter the launch line in the Aegean or Sea of ​​Marmara and ...... what will you get?

        Deep concern recourse And the best thing is to unscrew the landing gear at the airport and let them fly .....
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 3 June 2020 21: 04 New
        0
        Do not complicate it: we will get it by the fact that it is based on the a / b Khmeimim, so I do not think that Lancer will appear closer to Italy there.
        Moreover, if the Kovylkino Container will detect it immediately after take-off ...
        1. ancient
          ancient 4 June 2020 10: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: hydrox
          Do not complicate it: we will get it by the fact that it is based on a / b Khmeimim,

          And what about AB Hmeimim, in the case of maintaining a database, would the US 6th fleet consider the operational unification of the American naval forces in Europe? wassat
          2-3 "Axes" for each AB plate? wink
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 4 June 2020 19: 13 New
            -1
            You would be chosen from the concepts of the 20th century ... and life has gone ahead, and the geopolitical picture of the world has changed, and the 6th fleet from a pair of three launched axes will appear at the bottom in 2-3 days - the alignment of forces has changed, you see ... laughing
      4. Dmitriy Vyazmenskiy
        Dmitriy Vyazmenskiy 4 June 2020 06: 16 New
        +1
        Who needs this? In the event of such an attack, when the existence of a whole region, fleet, tens of thousands of people is called into question, a limited nuclear strike will be carried out! And if it doesn’t, then the entire top command should be completely replaced, I think (s)
  2. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 3 June 2020 10: 07 New
    +3
    A defense breakthrough and supersonic greatly reduce the radius of action, so it is used when entering the air defense radar coverage area, and with 400 it is not very small. If you leave in advance at a low altitude for supersonic, then you can not fly back at and ... In addition, there are also over-the-horizon stations, which can look beyond the curvature ... and all sorts of instant 31, which can also rise above 50 meters and calmly meet v1v ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 3 June 2020 10: 25 New
      +2
      The range of radio visibility is related to altitude, you don’t need to go to the ultra-small and supersonic in advance, it’s enough just to go lower.
      Again, no one canceled refueling.
      Over-the-horizon is a separate issue, the reliability of detection and recognition of a single target is much lower than that of over-the-horizon ones.
      Air means like the A-50 and Mig-31 are another matter, they will provide detection, but they cannot hang constantly, and the main danger, as I wrote, is that with such a route there is a danger of a surprise attack.
      1. Looking for
        Looking for 3 June 2020 16: 49 New
        0
        and instant-31 from Kamchatka to the Crimea will have time to fly
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 4 June 2020 08: 07 New
        0
        Our funds can be safely raised even from 2 readiness, as soon as the Container gives a notch for a massive departure of "large" machines, especially if NATO prepares a "surprise attack" for a week and a half, and at this time all the rear will be on their ears , so much so that it will be seen from the Urals! yes
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 June 2020 08: 16 New
          +1
          I’m just describing a situation in which the Americans do not need a mass departure — a situation of a sudden attack on key facilities in Moscow.
          2-4 sides from a distance of 600 km can potentially make a big difference, which means that such a threat needs to be addressed by increased air defense.
          Under the USSR, there was no such problem, the Americans could not fly near Kiev, or secretly go there.
          And now there is, through Europe, and tracking where they fly to Germany for a planned training session or near Kiev for a strike is now difficult.
          hi
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 4 June 2020 08: 34 New
            0
            Not quite like that: our Air Force will be alerted once immediately after the Yankees' aircraft lands in Ukraine.
            But I think that they will not do this if the entire U-on is covered by an air defense missile defense umbrella, from Crimea, from Belarus.
            Therefore, the launch line will be (conditionally) on the line Bulgaria - Austria - Czech Republic - Netherlands - Baltic. sea
            1. Avior
              Avior 4 June 2020 09: 34 New
              -1
              Why would they land in Ukraine? They don’t need it.
              And about the umbrellas above have already been discussed
    2. Slon379
      Slon379 3 June 2020 12: 31 New
      -4
      Supersound? At low altitude? What kind of fantasies? Do you know that an instrument plane, if you take a passenger one, always flies at the same speed of about 450 km / h? In dense near-Earth layers of air, acceleration to supersonic sound is impossible. Your whole strategy is on the road.
      1. Avior
        Avior 3 June 2020 14: 48 New
        -1
        Do not take passenger
        Take the 1B.
        It was specifically created for such a flight.
      2. ancient
        ancient 3 June 2020 15: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Slon379
        Supersound? At low altitude? What kind of fantasies? Do you know that an instrument plane, if you take a passenger one, always flies at the same speed of about 450 km / h?

        Yes ... to a height of 450 meters, then the true speed increases.
        The Su-24M has a limited Vpr. 1420 km /, Tu-22M3 - 1070 km / h, Tu-22K-1020 km / h,
        1. Slon379
          Slon379 3 June 2020 20: 29 New
          -1
          I’m saying that at low altitude you can’t fly at supersonic sound, from 600 meters please, but what is this low altitude? Some fools have minded me
          1. ancient
            ancient 3 June 2020 20: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: Slon379
            I’m saying that at low altitude you can’t fly in supersonic sound,

            Почему нет? belay Above the plain or "sea" at 100 meters or less ... please Su-24M allows you freely, and "long" cars go at speeds "near sound" (though the same "on the hands", only the B-1B can "automatic" at 50 meters, and at 90 meters it can also over hilly terrain, with a rounding of the relief in height, with an obstacle height of up to 600 meters in height (above the relief), and from 600 to 1500 meters with a rounding in the direction wink
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 3 June 2020 21: 34 New
          -2
          And the MiG-31BM has a speed of 3400 km / h - and what follows from this: where will this MiG meet this freshly taken off Lancer? And does the MiG have a weapon with which it can "give a light" to Lancer?
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 4 June 2020 07: 31 New
            -1
            Well, and what kind of liber is this - the Unified Sofa is minus me when the speed of Foxhound is 3 (three!) Times higher than that of Lancer! And it can take Lancer Foxhound 1,5-2 times longer than escort fighters armed with AIM-120D with their miserable 180 km range!
            How disgraceful are these ignorant Liberdian sofas in the moral and ethical sense!
            1. ancient
              ancient 4 June 2020 11: 24 New
              +2
              Quote: hydrox
              Well, and what kind of liber is this - the Unified Sofa is minus me when the speed of Foxhound is 3 (three!) Times higher than that of Lancer!

              Maybe because of you "urya- fellow "so and .." rushing over the edge "... some kind of speculation and ....
              Yes, the speed is higher ... only at this speed your Foxhound can fly only for 30 minutes, and then ... like a glider, quickly plan to land on the emergency remaining fuel.
              A B-B has records in range and duration on V - 1056, N-2000, time 6 hours.
              Quote: hydrox
              than escort fighters armed with AIM-120D with their miserable 180 km range!

              What .. "on figs" escort fighters? ..... Lancer "will come" from another continent or from the Indian Ocean .... free !!!
              And he will not be armed with "cast iron" ... in order to climb into the zones of opposition and to the lines of interception of our air defense IA.
              Quote: hydrox
              How disgraceful are these ignorant Liberdian sofas in the moral and ethical sense!

              Therefore, you, with your .. "pearls" look now well .... to put it mildly ... "far from very", as you show your FULL UNEducation and Lack of competence in this "question" wassat
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 4 June 2020 20: 10 New
              0
              Quote: ancient
              Lancer will "come" from another continent or from the Indian Ocean .... free !!!

              And what, did our early warning stations and zagorozontnik all suddenly become blind or drunk? What bold fantasies do you have !.
        3. ancient
          ancient 4 June 2020 11: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: hydrox
          And the MiG-31BM has a speed of 3400 km / h

          This is what you "urya-media" read? wassat
          Quote: hydrox
          and what follows from this

          From this it follows that at the correct fuel consumption for the operation of engines in the MFR mode, the intercept line is ... something about 750 km ... if my memory serves me right wink
          And what is the launch line for V-1V for AKP and RCC? wink
          Quote: hydrox
          Where will this MiG meet this freshly flown Lancer?

          Yes, nowhere ........ here in Kamchatka (not met at all) ... on the Black Sea the same is not (since they are actually not there).
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 4 June 2020 19: 49 New
            -1
            Thank you, they made me laugh: as if in my youth they had dipped me with their funny "oboyuski". laughing
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 4 June 2020 20: 20 New
            -1
            [quote = ancient] [quote = hydrox] And the MiG-31BM has a speed of 3400 km / h [/ quote]
            This is what you "urya-media" read? wassat
            Read here
            https://military.pravda.ru/news/1473517-mig_31/
            this question has already been raised many times - this is either flipping through more lively, or reducing sleep time - there is no third way: the times are different and the kaleidoscope spins faster request
          3. ancient
            ancient 4 June 2020 20: 54 New
            0
            Quote: hydrox
            military.pravda.ru/news/1473517-mig_31/

            And what have I read? wassat First, as always fellow , then ... oh, but there really is a problem what ... but we have nothing and the S-400 and IAPVO, and if they come to us, then we will crave wassat ... avoiding the answer ... but they will not come, but their AKP and RCC will "come".
            And all of you according to pioneer and Komsomol manuals .... "this question has already been raised here many times."
            Even already .. not funny hi
          4. hydrox
            hydrox 4 June 2020 20: 58 New
            -1
            Grandfather, you would transfer from Po-2 to something more modern instead of raising a swara here ...
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 4 June 2020 20: 29 New
        -1
        But why meet him if he goes beyond the limits of the earth?
        And what will you do with him when you meet him?
        Play cat and mouse) lol
        So you will be tortured to chase him across the oceans on your I-15 on the Pioneer device - and where is your point?
  • ancient
    ancient 3 June 2020 15: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: Cottodraton
    Defense breakthrough and supersonic greatly reduce the radius of action, so it is used when entering the air defense radar coverage area

    Only not into the radar coverage area, namely, the zone of action of the inherently active air defense systems (SAM, MZA and MANPADS), but this is the tactics of maintaining a database in a land theater and .. "last century" soldier
    Quote: Cottodraton
    .and all sorts of instant 31, which can also rise above 50 meters and calmly meet in 1st century ...

    The task of the "strategist" is precisely to avoid all possible "encounters" with the enemy's air defense aircraft ... for this he has missiles ... "long-range launch" wink
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 4 June 2020 19: 52 New
      -1
      Quote: ancient
      for this he has missiles ... "long-range launch"

      Be so kind as to refer to such anti-IA missiles (mind you, don't offer the R-37M!). laughing
      1. ancient
        ancient 4 June 2020 21: 02 New
        0
        Quote: hydrox
        "against IA"

        I see ... complex sentences and terms in general ... not an ale? wassat
        Against which IA? belay
        1. The task of the "strategist" is precisely to avoid all possible "encounters" with the enemy's air defense aircraft.
        2 .. For this, he has missiles ... "long-range launch".
        I chew for ... "pioneer schoolchildren":
        -We have it at B-1B.
        - there are long-range missiles, which .. all 158s (both AKR and anti-ship missiles), 24 pieces per ... "snout" wassat
        And the TASK for V-1B is not to enter the zones of counteraction of active air defense systems and to the intercepts of intercepting air defense systems.
        All ... I will not be engaged in an educational program any more hi
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 4 June 2020 21: 05 New
          -1
          That's right, go to bed - you have a cache jam - do not remember what you wrote in the previous comment 15 minutes ago.
          1. ancient
            ancient 4 June 2020 21: 11 New
            0
            Quote: hydrox
            your cache is jammed - do not remember what you wrote in the previous comment 15 minutes ago.

            What I wrote 15 minutes ago - The task of the "strategist" is precisely to avoid all possible "encounters" with the enemy's air defense aircraft ... for this he has missiles ... "long-range launch"
            And what you wrote 7 minutes ago .. you can read a little higher again ... or where there are a lot of "bukFF" not at all ... huh? ... Poor ... wassat
            We sat in a puddle ... so at least keep a good mine ... with a bad game hi
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 4 June 2020 21: 15 New
            -1
            Congratulations on your 100th birthday - do not forget to note ...
  • major147
    major147 3 June 2020 10: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    This picture makes sense if the Americans fly above 10 km
    And B1B was specially created for the breakthrough of air defense at extremely low altitudes with automatic enveloping of the terrain

    Those. you have not heard about "layered air defense"?
    1. Avior
      Avior 3 June 2020 15: 32 New
      -4
      I heard.
      What I’m talking about will have to significantly strengthen it at low altitudes.
      And not only object
  • ancient
    ancient 3 June 2020 14: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Avior
    This picture makes sense if the Americans fly above 10 km
    And B1B was specially created for the breakthrough of air defense at extremely low altitudes with automatic enveloping of the terrain

    Absolutely right good And for launch he needs only 1500 meters of true height drinks
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 4 June 2020 08: 50 New
      -1
      But as soon as it rises by 1500, it will be immediately visible beyond 600-900 km, respectively, and the chances of returning to the base will be scanty if the MiG-31BM guards him and the launched AGMku
      1. ancient
        ancient 4 June 2020 10: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        But as soon as it rises by 1500, it will be immediately visible for 600-900 km,

        Oh well .... this is how you will find it "suddenly" wink
        Quote: hydrox
        and the chances of returning to his base are scanty if both the MiG-31BM and his launched AGMku are on guard

        He needs to launch missiles ... well ... a few minutes, but how long will it take for the MiG-31 DS to reach the launch line to destroy the carrier from the "watch on the ground" position?
        And a lot of your MiG-31 is based on airfields along the Black Sea coast? wink
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 4 June 2020 19: 30 New
          -1
          Such a carcass and with such an EPR, not only the Container, but also the Sky will be able to see. yes
          1. ancient
            ancient 4 June 2020 21: 04 New
            0
            Quote: hydrox
            Such a carcass and with such an EPR not only the Container, but also the Sky can see

            Surprise, but the EPR of the V-1V ... is much less than that of the Su-27 wassat
  • 4ekist
    4ekist 3 June 2020 16: 31 New
    0
    The image above the sea will be perfect, there are enough radar and means of destruction (VKS, air defense of the ground forces and air defense of the Navy)
    1. ancient
      ancient 3 June 2020 19: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: 4ekist
      Over the sea the picture will be perfect

      Yeah ... like .. "on parade" wassat
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 3 June 2020 23: 25 New
        0
        Photo of the PPI with non-synchronous and active interference in the see wavelength range. You can retune Repeat mat.chast ..
        1. ancient
          ancient 4 June 2020 10: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: 4ekist
          Photo of the PPI with non-synchronous and active interference in the see wavelength range. You can retune Repeat mat.chast ..

          The fact of the matter is that it is POSSIBLE ..... and for what period of time? And the anti-ship missiles will patrol in the waiting area at this time ... wait ... until you ... "line up" wassat
          Quote: 4ekist
          Repeat mat.chast ..

          Just thought ... what did they write? wassat
  • ancient
    ancient 3 June 2020 14: 43 New
    +3
    Quote: Insurgent
    And if we add "Syrian" air defense systems to this, the picture for the United States and NATO looks even more sad.

    Write complete nonsense. There are no comments at all about the "Syrian S -....." fool
    And who or what countermeasures will prevent the Lancers, through the territory of Turkey, from reaching the launch lines of their AGM-158C LRASM on our ships and bases? belay
    Well, you have "drawn" the radii of detection and destruction of air targets reaching at high altitudes, so what?
    Lancer does not need to "climb" so high .... the launch range of his anti-ship missiles does not depend on this wink
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 4 June 2020 07: 39 New
      0
      Those. Do you believe that the Sultan refused the Patriots in favor of the S-400 in order to let the Lancers through their territory?
      And then what does the sultan look like in the light of this bold statement of yours? laughing
      1. ancient
        ancient 4 June 2020 10: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        And then what does the sultan look like in the light of this bold statement of yours?

        Minimum as a partner in the NATO coalition ... didn’t you know? wink
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 4 June 2020 19: 57 New
          -1
          I write in Russian in white: "the Sultan abandoned the Patriots in favor of the S-400 in order to let the Lancers pass through his territory?"
          Is this the fig of the sultan in his pocket towards the USA?
          Well, you give, Mr. Dreamer!
          And what does the joint patrol of Turks and Russians across Syria look like then? Kebab for two or a deadly duel? yes
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 30 June 2020 22: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: ancient
          Minimum as a partner in the NATO coalition ..
  • Mytholog
    Mytholog 3 June 2020 07: 56 New
    15
    Quote: Smolin
    And what about those who do not watch cartoons?

    Pretend to be stealth and not shine. If in childhood I did not see this cartoon, then I grew up "somewhere there." You are burning.
  • U-58
    U-58 3 June 2020 08: 18 New
    +1
    This means that you need to revise the cartoons about Mowgli.
    There are only 3)))))
    1. novel66
      novel66 3 June 2020 10: 13 New
      +3
      5!!! five episodes !!!
      1. U-58
        U-58 3 June 2020 11: 49 New
        +1
        Let 5. When in the future you will have children - and show them
        1. novel66
          novel66 3 June 2020 13: 55 New
          -1
          freak out! mine has already grown out of this!
          A wonderful animated film from five separate episodes
  • svp67
    svp67 3 June 2020 09: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Smolin
    Imagine these too!

    Judging by your comment, you are not one of those who do not look ... so what is the question then? Those about whom you speak and do not read local comments ...
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 3 June 2020 22: 41 New
    0
    "Elementary Watson!"

    winked You need to know the classics of the enemy, since they have fallen upon trolling here. We know yours. bully
  • Dmitriy Vyazmenskiy
    Dmitriy Vyazmenskiy 4 June 2020 05: 59 New
    0
    Whatever you want, you can walk, but you can work, you can go live in any country, and then you can return! Now you can do what your heart desires! So go to the USA, maybe you’ll break your neck and apologize later, maybe! ☹️☹️☹️☹️
  • vkl.47
    vkl.47 3 June 2020 08: 07 New
    +5
    It is strange that the maidown mothballers do not support the USA
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 June 2020 08: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: vkl.47
      It is strange that the maidown mothballers do not support the USA

      They are at a loss - "Shaw to be?" request what .
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 June 2020 09: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: vkl.47
      It is strange that the maidown mothballers do not support the USA

      Maidans are different here, if in Ukraine there was an American Maidan, then in the states it is certainly not Ukrainian.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 3 June 2020 09: 09 New
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Maidans are different here, if in Ukraine there was an American Maidan, then in the states it is certainly not Ukrainian.

        Do not care for definitions, classification and names, the main thing is that - The Show Must Go On yes

        1. novel66
          novel66 3 June 2020 10: 14 New
          +2
          but sorry for him ..
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 3 June 2020 10: 19 New
            +4
            Quote: novel xnumx
            but sorry for him ..

            Freddie Mercury (Freddie Mercury, nee. Farrukh Bulsara)?

            As an outstanding person, a creative person yes
            In other matters, his "unconventionality", which he did not stick out as a norm (as is usual with today's "stars"), against the background of undoubted talent - fades ...
            1. novel66
              novel66 3 June 2020 10: 27 New
              +2
              one of his favorite groups .. solniki he has so-so .. popsushechka
  • Civil
    Civil 3 June 2020 08: 17 New
    +2
    Of course, Kipling was also a Russophobe:
    for Russia, Kipling has neither sympathy nor warmth. In the beautiful "Kim" there are completely caricatured Russian spies - perhaps the only villains in the entire novel. There are similar examples in other works of Kipling. But perhaps the most evil libel is The Man Who Was, published by the twenty-five-year-old writer in Life's Handicap in 1891.

    The story of how the Russians made a slave to an English officer captured in the Crimean War.

    Kipling's accusations can be reduced to one, directly stated at the beginning of the story. Russia is trying to pretend to be white, civilized, without giving up things that are forgivable only to uncivilized peoples. She wants to get the rights of whites without taking on the corresponding obligations. That, in Kipling's eyes, puts her much lower than "proper Asians" who know their place - like Hira Singh.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 3 June 2020 08: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: Insurgent
    JACKAL

    Something a lot of jackal divorced, it's time to clean the nature.
  • Slon379
    Slon379 3 June 2020 09: 13 New
    0
    "... and when we return there will be no one, neither the super hegemon, nor his wives !!!!!"
  • venik
    venik 3 June 2020 10: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    - "And we will go to the north of Russia"

    =======
    good When Mowgli stuck in the face of Sherkhan burning branchsinging a mustache, jackal Tabaki with a yell rushed away!
    Conclusion: "You need to stick a burning branch in your nose" so that the "jackals" scatter ?? About what THERE think ??? request
  • major147
    major147 3 June 2020 10: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    I recalled the plot from "Mowgli", where one famous character curiously turns around a tiger - "And we will go north."


    JACKAL yes

    - "And we will go to north Russia "

    - "And we will go to north Russia "

    "America is with us" (C) 2014

    Such a craving to lick the owner fool
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 3 June 2020 12: 16 New
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    I recalled the plot from "Mowgli", where one famous character curiously turns around a tiger - "And we will go north."


    JACKAL yes

    - "And we will go to north Russia "

    - "And we will go to north Russia "

    "America is with us" (C) 2014

    Sounds right - "Omerika z namy!" And gYmn ukraYny .....
  • Civil
    Civil 3 June 2020 07: 40 New
    -6
    Let me remind you that Rudyard Kipling (the author of Mowgli) was a complete racist, which only his works "The White Man's Burden" and "If"
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 June 2020 07: 44 New
      +9
      Quote: Civil
      Let me remind you that Rudyard Kipling (the author of Mowgli) was a complete racist, which only his works "The White Man's Burden" and "If"

      And collaborated with Secret intelligence service yes that does not detract from his literary talent ...
      1. novel66
        novel66 3 June 2020 10: 15 New
        +1
        not cooperated, but was a full-time agent
    2. Volodin
      Volodin 3 June 2020 07: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: Civil
      Let me remind you that Rudyard Kipling (the author of Mowgli) was a complete racist, which only his works "The White Man's Burden" and "If"

      Yeah, and Mowgli himself also brutally treated animals ... You need to immediately write to Greta Tunberg and Greenpeace and forbid everything, ban, ban ...
    3. Smolin
      Smolin 3 June 2020 07: 55 New
      -4
      Now I understand. It's about Kipling's works. An interesting writer with an interesting story.
      Interestingly, with the rise to power in Germany Hitler Kipling removed from the covers of his books his logo, designed by his father and representing elephant head swastikaholding a lotus flower in the trunk
    4. Mytholog
      Mytholog 3 June 2020 08: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: Civil
      was a complete racist

      I watched negros "celebrate freedom" on the other end of the ball ... I think there will be a surge of interest in the work of racists)
      1. novel66
        novel66 3 June 2020 10: 16 New
        0
        there are racism from the side of the whites..ura blacks !!
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. hydrox
      hydrox 3 June 2020 21: 44 New
      0
      Well, there was, and how does this relate to you when looking at DOMESTIC relations in the USA? Do you need Russia to once again be accused of meddling in US internal affairs?
      Well, Russia does not need this!
  • Hto tama
    Hto tama 3 June 2020 07: 43 New
    +6
    I don’t understand at all why the bonfireheads are so happy and express their commitment to NATO and the mattress. belay their skies are going to be turned into a theater of operations, and cannon fodder is delighted with this, as Lavrov’s words are not remembered here what
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 June 2020 09: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Hto tama
      I don’t understand at all why the bonfireheads are so happy and express their commitment to NATO and the mattress.

      Well, it's all like in the joke "In spite of my grandmother's ears frostbite."
    2. beeper
      beeper 3 June 2020 13: 56 New
      +2
      Well, those of them, such as Senya Yaytsenyukha, rejoice, who "in ttsiy kraini zhyty do not get out" - their main place of residence and property in the US!
      And still moronic rejoice at completely maydanut marginal - "pots and colanders (it doesn't matter that some of them even have diplomas of" embroidery (universities) "- after all, even" with a diploma ", the small-town marginal does not cease to be a swaggering" Svidomo "dodger, peremptorily imposing those around their wretched cave "values" request ) ", such as Babtsi Farion, who are absolutely incapable of predicting the suicidal consequences of their own racist-Nazi Russophobic" leaps "(in an effort to" please "the Fashington" Panamas "! fool )!
      To such "heroes and heroes", in their empty "makitra", the question "And we for sho ?!", alas, comes post factum and, often, post-mortem! wink

      With "saucepans" Kipling's "The Jungle Book" is true not only in the image of the petty cowardly jackal-sticky Tabaki, who was mercilessly wiping off at Sherkhan's paws, but also in the image of the herd bandarlog monkeys living in the jungle-overgrown ruins of ancient human Civilization and trying to imitate the behavior images of people ...
      But the fabulous bandarlog (as well as the current "Ukrainian" Nazi "bandarlog"!) Did it badly - they lacked human brains, as well as human culture!
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 3 June 2020 07: 44 New
    -1
    This suggests that in the western direction, to Russia, a whole flock of such a team is waiting.
    1. really
      really 3 June 2020 09: 08 New
      -2
      Refine flock looking west or east
      1. BIABIA
        BIABIA 3 June 2020 10: 13 New
        -2
        They look at each other. Only some on their land, and others on a foreign continent (I do not mean vassals).
        1. really
          really 3 June 2020 11: 37 New
          -1
          Then look back, the enemy is also behind.
  • avia12005
    avia12005 3 June 2020 07: 46 New
    0
    Calm, only calm ... But how it ends is not important.
  • Carnifexx
    Carnifexx 3 June 2020 07: 47 New
    +3
    The next exercises, to which ours will answer with the next exercises, the Tu-160 will fly over the English Channel and, I hope, there will be no escalation.
  • Break through
    Break through 3 June 2020 07: 51 New
    -2
    The hosts were escorted ...
  • Mouse
    Mouse 3 June 2020 08: 13 New
    +1
    Shakalya divorced ....
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 3 June 2020 09: 13 New
      -2
      Quote: Mouse
      Shakalya divorced ...

      It's time to collect wolfhounds.
    2. novel66
      novel66 3 June 2020 10: 16 New
      +1
      and Akela missed ....
      1. Masha
        Masha 3 June 2020 10: 27 New
        +1
        Sherkhan flies past the Council Rock with horrified eyes and a terrible rumble created by a hundred cans tied to his tail.
        “Well,” Akela sighed sadly, “Mowgli remembered again that he was a human cub ...”
        Roman, hi! love
        1. novel66
          novel66 3 June 2020 10: 30 New
          +1
          Masha! love that's really nice to see .. !! and Akela seriously missed the pension reform lol
          1. Masha
            Masha 3 June 2020 10: 39 New
            0
            Here's what now ...
            Work, work and work, as the great Lenin bequeathed and taught by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union .... wink
            1. novel66
              novel66 3 June 2020 10: 45 New
              0
              and not ashamed !?

              But, come on, I was a pioneer ..
              1. Masha
                Masha 3 June 2020 11: 00 New
                0
                Not at all .... also a Komsomol member! Just changed in the light of the latest realities .... yes
                You know, I'm so .... repeat
                1. novel66
                  novel66 3 June 2020 11: 03 New
                  +1
                  which I appreciate ... and I love ... platonically ... love
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 3 June 2020 10: 51 New
              -1
              Quote: Masha
              Here's what now ...
              Work, work and work, as the great Lenin bequeathed

              You have some special personal Lenin with fictional quotes?

              1. Masha
                Masha 3 June 2020 11: 02 New
                +1
                I see ... the works of Lenin are not forgotten .... laughing
                Do not strangle, do not kill!
                1. novel66
                  novel66 3 June 2020 11: 05 New
                  +1
                  forward, dawn to meet, comrades in the struggle ..
                  with bayonets and buckshot let's make our way
              2. really
                really 3 June 2020 11: 39 New
                -1
                There, half of the assembly is reassigned, at best
              3. Normal ok
                Normal ok 3 June 2020 11: 46 New
                -2
                Quote: Insurgent
                Quote: Masha
                Here's what now ...
                Work, work and work, as the great Lenin bequeathed

                You have some special personal Lenin with fictional quotes?


                Lenin's original phrase does not speak of learning "in general," but: "learn, learn, learn the military in a real way."
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 3 June 2020 11: 52 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Normal ok
                  Lenin's original phrase does not speak of learning "in general," but: "learn, learn, learn the military in a real way."


                  What do you say to that?

                  The famous words of Lenin “to study, study and study” were written by him in his work “The Backward Direction of Russian Social Democracy”, written in late 1899 and published in 1924 in the journal Proletarian Revolution No. 8-9:

                  While an educated society is losing interest in honest, illegal literature, a passionate desire for knowledge and socialism is growing among workers, real heroes stand out among workers, who - despite the ugly atmosphere of their lives, despite the stupid hard labor in the factory - find in themselves so much character and willpower, to study, study and study and make oneself conscious of the Social Democrats, the “working intelligentsia”.


                  "Our slogan should be one - to study military affairs in this way, to establish order on the railways. “- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin Political report of the Central Committee to the VII Congress of the RCP (B.), March 7, 1918 - PSS, 36th ed., p. 26 vol. 36, p. 26.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 June 2020 08: 19 New
    +1
    American strategists along the Russian border are an attempt to once again introduce the irritating factor of Russia, to show their satellites that "everything is under control", and of course to declare how "tough" they are. For the Ukrainian Air Force, happiness, and enormous, was given to fly a little next to the American B-1B Lancer and feel like a "team". Tremble Russia! Meanwhile, America is on the ears of its own internal problems.
  • Avior
    Avior 3 June 2020 08: 21 New
    +4
    The author came up with an analogy with a cartoon, it would be better to seriously write that the appearance of B1B, specially created for breaking through air defense at extremely low altitudes with enveloping the terrain in the north of Ukraine, for the first time, by the way, requires significant additional investments in air defense from the south to organize a radar extremely low altitudes, below 100 meters, which is very expensive and very expensive.

    A pair of B1Bs is fifty hundred precision missiles agm158 or thermonuclear bombs B61 600 km from Moscow.
    And if the Lord does not bring what will begin, then a sudden attack on the decision centers is just the easiest to organize precisely from this direction, with a flight through Poland.
    And catching over the Black Sea is for high-profile newspaper articles and reports
  • Armored beast
    Armored beast 3 June 2020 08: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Smolin
    yeah, news for fans of cartoons. And what about those who do not watch cartoons? Imagine there are ones too! Can you explain for non-initiates what this means?

    Really so close, al pretend?
  • svp67
    svp67 3 June 2020 09: 05 New
    +4
    And the fact that these B-1Bs passed over the territory of Ukraine and flew almost to Kiev, is it discounted? That is, this territory is already open for them as a platform for delivering strikes against our country.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 June 2020 09: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      And the fact that these B-1Bs passed over the territory of Ukraine and flew almost to Kiev, is it discounted? That is, this territory is already open for them as a platform for delivering strikes against our country.


      It is more logical to address this question directly to the political leadership of the Russian Federation, which has been chewing (excuse me) snot since 2014, "playing vanka" and ignoring threats ...
    2. Domovenok
      Domovenok 3 June 2020 09: 40 New
      -2
      Quote: svp67
      That is, this territory is already open for them as a platform for delivering strikes against our country.

      It turns out like this Sergey! And Russia will have to retarget missiles to our "former" in the event of a major world conflict .. Even in a nightmare I could not have imagined it before during the Soviet era ..
      "Thank you brothers" for everything ..
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 3 June 2020 11: 40 New
        -3
        Quote: Domovenok
        Quote: svp67
        That is, this territory is already open for them as a platform for delivering strikes against our country.

        It turns out like this Sergey! And Russia will have to re-target missiles at our "former" in the event of a major world conflict ..

        Yeah, so that the fallout contaminated the entire European part of Russia, Belarus, the Black Sea in addition.
        PS. When you write comments generally turn on your head?
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 3 June 2020 09: 08 New
    -2
    Quote: Volodin
    Quote: Smolin
    And what about those who do not watch cartoons? Can you explain for non-initiates what this means?

    Cartoons do not watch books do not read.
    For some reason I feel sorry for such people.

    Let more Solovyov and Co. look. In modern Russia, more is not necessary for happiness.
    1. svp67
      svp67 3 June 2020 09: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Sentry73
      In modern Russia, more is not necessary for happiness.

      If this is enough for you, then why are you talking about ALL?
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 3 June 2020 09: 20 New
    0
    3 "sixes"
    1. ancient
      ancient 3 June 2020 19: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      3 "sixes"

      I beg your pardon, what is it .... 3 "sixes"? belay
  • Domovenok
    Domovenok 3 June 2020 09: 30 New
    -5
    Remember, we later Sumerians .. Already completely descended in their shame ..!
  • Kamikadze19
    Kamikadze19 3 June 2020 09: 43 New
    -1
    I don’t understand the author. Passed between the 2 islands of the Kuril ridge, that is, in the airspace of Russia and the Sea of ​​Okhotsk also in the airspace of the Russian Federation? If so why not shoot down? It seems to me that the author is misleading us here!
    1. Avior
      Avior 3 June 2020 10: 54 New
      +3
      between the islands there is a passage outside the airspace of the Russian Federation - the Bussol Strait.
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 3 June 2020 10: 30 New
    -3
    Quote: Avior
    So, let's get you out of difficulty.
    At least 5 m - this means that the rocket can hit the target minimally at this height.
    But first you need to find it.
    But this is hindered by concepts such as the horizon and the range of radio visibility.
    No matter how wonderful the radar station is, the Earth remains spherical, or, as some say, round.
    And because of this roundness, the detection range of low-flying targets, especially over uneven terrain, is incomparably shorter than the instrumental capabilities of the radar.
    To calculate simply, you need to take the square root of the height of the radar antenna, add the square root of the target height in meters to it, and multiply by 4,1 - you get the range of radio visibility in kilometers.
    For example, an antenna standing at a height of 50 m (the square root is 7) will see the plane at the same height
    4,1 * (7 + 7) = 57,4 km
    if it does not interfere with the relief, as from the coast to the sea, for example.
    If above the ground, it makes sense to divide by one and a half or two due to the influence of the terrain.
    at a target height of 5 m with the same antenna on a hill of 50 m
    4,1 * (7 + 2) = 37 km at best
    and nothing can be done about it
    So you can believe both - and me and "them" safely smile
    hi

    How many stubborn minusers are ready to reject common sense, so long as this information does not damage and make you think. Although most likely these are either bots, or people who spoil everything and everyone around. It is necessary to maintain the image of a "great" country under external control)
    He will not see the S-400 V-1 for 400km and will not see for 100km in the event of a conflict, these aircraft will not be used as liners, but will go with a complex relief of 30-50m for which they are intended.
    And this is the end for everyone, including the minusers .......
    1. Disant
      Disant 3 June 2020 12: 07 New
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      well, so you modulate the situation and they will answer what will happen, and then sing about the end, external control, minusers and complex terrain
    2. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 3 June 2020 12: 19 New
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      "Chief, the mustache is gone, the plaster is being removed." Yes, there were quite a few of them even in 41. You might think that another direction of a possible strike is a fundamentally military-strategic position. Yes, it creates an additional air defense problem, complicates, but all the same it does not prevent the possibility of a retaliatory strike against the foe, because the infliction of nuclear or conventional means by the US Air Force on our territory will inevitably be accompanied by preparatory measures that will not go unnoticed, so that you can to speak only of relative, and not absolute, surprise on the part of Ukraine.
    3. Slon379
      Slon379 3 June 2020 20: 49 New
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      We pull the cables for 200 km and the thing is in the hat!
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 3 June 2020 11: 34 New
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    I recalled the plot from "Mowgli", where one famous character curiously turns around a tiger - "And we will go north."
    What is shown is the development of interaction between the American and Ukrainian air forces. And the yapping of the jackal is more reminiscent of the attempts of some VO authors to imitate the "senior tovarischas" a la Soloviev & Co.
  • Svidetel 45
    Svidetel 45 3 June 2020 11: 50 New
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    And the flights of our Tu-160 off the coast of Alaska and the east coast of the United States is not a problem for them, they just need to fly more often and remind them of this problem, and it will be much closer to get to Washington or New York from a submarine than to Moscow, as they say. what a hello, that should be the answer. In general, it's a pity that in 14 instead of. in order to support the pro-Russian forces in Kharkov, Odessa and other regions of Little Russia, the Russian leadership pursued a "flexible" policy towards the West and their henchmen in Kiev, probably in the interests of our oligarchs, financially tied to the West, and now the B1 flights over Ukraine are the result of these diplomatic tricks.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 3 June 2020 12: 03 New
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    a joke from the Soviet era ..
    flew L.I. Brezhnev in Baku. where the first secretary was G.A. Aliyev. decided the first secretary to show hospitality in front of the Secretary General)
    and now they rest on the seashore. Brezhnev lies, bathes in the sun, near him a table covered with fruits and vegetables. cognac and black caviar. and the first secretary is pleased that he pleased his dear guest. and brandy will pour him, and the flies will drive away from the guest. and at some point one fly climbed into the pants of an expensive guest.
    and he scratched there .. dear guest there began to scratch and condemn it is already superfluous .. dear Heydar Alievich, this is already superfluous). the dear guest did not know that it was a fly "there" itching. not what he thought.

    so the Khokhlyatsky political leadership seeks to please the new owners ..
  • askort154
    askort154 3 June 2020 12: 07 New
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    It is worth noting that the B-1B Lancer, flying from an air base in South Dakota, at one of the stages of the flight joined the Ukrainian Air Force fighters.

    This is all we can, said the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Air Force .. We have only 5 Su-27s left, and only 2 capable of "accompanying".
    1. askort154
      askort154 3 June 2020 16: 09 New
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      askort154 ... We have only 5 Su-27s left, and only 2 capable of "escorting".

      For those who did not understand my true "sarcasm". Aviation of Ukraine for 2018 (on the wing)

      - 7 MiG-29 + 4 MiG-29 MU1 +1 MiG-29 UB,
      - 5 Su-27 + 1 Su-27 UB,
      - 3 attack aircraft Su-25 M 1,
      - 1 reconnaissance aircraft Su-24 MR,
      - 4 training L-39 / M1
      - 2 An-26,
      - 1 - IL-76 MD.
      (Millitari Aviation 2018).
      In addition, big problems with fuel.
      In 1990, Ukraine was in 3rd place in the World, in terms of the total number of fleets, even bypassing China!
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 3 June 2020 12: 20 New
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    What is the article about?
    Ukraine can do whatever it wants,
    with its airspace, and
    we are not a decree to her.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 3 June 2020 12: 25 New
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    The first missile launched in the fleet will be the last for the Lancers. Not the fact that they hit, but that's not the point. This is all window dressing, no more. For banana republics, the Lancers are a threat, Europe should be strewn, but not Russia. It is noteworthy that the media and cardboard generals are raising tantrum who do not fuss about the topic. Ruin-s yes
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 3 June 2020 19: 19 New
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      I disagree. Let us recall the US Air Force Attack on the Sukhaya Rechka airfield. On October 8, 1950 at 16:17 local time (then the Korean War was going on) near Vladivostok, then there was an Il-12 (a Soviet transport Il-12 flew from Port Arthur to Vladivostok, which belonged to the 593rd separate transport aviation regiment of the Pacific There were six crew members and 15 passengers on board. It was shot down by the US Air Force. The Kursk submarine is still not clear either. As usual, the management will wipe the snot and show "restraint, composure, progmatism" or keep everything secret. We have it in the order of things.
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 4 June 2020 01: 41 New
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        With Kursk, it’s all clear and long ago, the Yankees are completely out of cash. And for that matter, we shot down their planes no less. Distort the facts dear. Not good.
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 3 June 2020 13: 12 New
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    Quote: Svidetel 45
    "Chief, the mustache is gone, the plaster is being removed." Yes, there were quite a few of them even in 41. You might think that another direction of a possible strike is a fundamentally military-strategic position. Yes, it creates an additional air defense problem, complicates, but all the same it does not prevent the possibility of a retaliatory strike against the foe, because the infliction of nuclear or conventional means by the US Air Force on our territory will inevitably be accompanied by preparatory measures that will not go unnoticed, so that you can to speak only of relative, and not absolute, surprise on the part of Ukraine.

    No need to exaggerate.
    The point is that if the mess begins, then everything will be really those with missiles, navy, airplanes, and not the flight of two units at the level of echelons for passenger liners) And that is my comment about this. And there will be these directions from all sides. As well as our return. But to put it mildly, too bravura comments of some inadequate personalities about which super-duper S-400, or which ... but V-1B, or we have everything covered except for a couple of directions. There are no fools sitting there. As an example, the F-22 of the 5th generation 30 years ago. Their technology is better than ours in that there is a future perspective. And we have it due to the fact that the banking system and, as a consequence, the industry are under external control, and so we cannot even print rubles without the consent of the Fed) What is this if not external management? And here comes the question: who will let you develop? The fate of the future of Russia is Ukraine in its current form. Alas.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 4 June 2020 01: 45 New
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      How terrible you are to live! Shoot yourself at home. Well or there.
      PS: Russia has been buried since its inception, for more than 300 years already, with the same result.
  • Old26
    Old26 3 June 2020 15: 09 New
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    Quote: Kamikadze19
    I don’t understand the author. Passed between the 2 islands of the Kuril ridge, that is, in the airspace of Russia and the Sea of ​​Okhotsk also in the airspace of the Russian Federation? If so why not shoot down? It seems to me that the author is misleading us here!

    Between the islands of the Kuril ridge, they passed without entering the airspace of Russia. In the same way with the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. They entered the Sea of ​​Okhotsk without violating the state border of Russia. And since there was no violation, who will shoot down? Based on what?

    Quote: lopuhan2006
    and they will go on a difficult terrain at 30-50m for which they are intended.

    The minimum at which the Lancer was tested is 60 meters. But this is not a gift either.
    1. ancient
      ancient 3 June 2020 19: 43 New
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      Quote: Old26
      The minimum at which the Lancer was tested is 60 meters.

      Yes Volodya ..60 meters, but this is in the "automatic" and their "system" ensures the flight of the bomber in terrain envelope mode и obstacle flight, no time limit .... we have this with our MVK Relief-24 and ... did not dream soldier
      And on your hands .. please fly and lower ..... the late PS Deinekin descended and flew on it at an altitude of 50 meters "on hands" wink
  • kris_67
    kris_67 3 June 2020 17: 46 New
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    "Russian fighters were sent to intercept, including Su-27 and Su-30" - probably the Russian ones looked no better.
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 3 June 2020 21: 13 New
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    open secret ... but I didn’t understand where does Mowgli ..
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 4 June 2020 02: 47 New
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    Quote: shinobi
    How terrible you are to live! Shoot yourself at home. Well or there.
    PS: Russia has been buried since its inception, for more than 300 years already, with the same result.

    There is a song about such fools in Pinocchio ..... I’m not afraid, but sad and especially from such hopeless dumbasses.
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 4 June 2020 14: 57 New
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    One thing I don’t understand is why the interceptors fly out to intercept the bombers of the likely enemy at their borders with only two melee missiles, and precisely in all ONE (!!!) on each of the two planes? On the video during landing it is clearly visible.
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 4 June 2020 20: 14 New
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      Save fuel
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 4 June 2020 22: 54 New
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        fuel tanks hanging to help them
  • zwlad
    zwlad 4 June 2020 20: 13 New
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    It’s time, let our strategists fly to the shores of California. Then they will be happy there.
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 4 June 2020 23: 56 New
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    Quote: Smolin
    yeah, news for fans of cartoons. And what about those who do not watch cartoons? Imagine there are ones too! Can you explain for non-initiates what this means?

    But is there any sense in this? This requires at least a three-year education.
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 5 June 2020 00: 04 New
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    Quote: Smolin
    Now I understand. It's about Kipling's works. An interesting writer with an interesting story.
    Interestingly, with the rise to power in Germany Hitler Kipling removed from the covers of his books his logo, designed by his father and representing elephant head swastikaholding a lotus flower in the trunk

    And you did not know that the swastika is a Hindu symbol of the sun? Plagiarists from the pale-faced Germany stole not only this symbol, but also tried to break into the faith in Shambhala, sending their scouts to the mountains. When Aloizych showed his grin to the whole world,
    the use of this symbol has become defiled.
    To study, study and study ..... It is not given, apparently, to some this occupation.

    Take a closer look .... Sri Lanka. 1981 year.