On Navalny after his insulting post depicting a veteran, they were reported to the prosecutor's office

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On Navalny after his insulting post depicting a veteran, they were reported to the prosecutor's office

An appeal was sent to the Moscow City Prosecutor’s Office and the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation on behalf of Ilya Remeslo, a member of the OPR (Public Chamber of Russia). The person applying to the control and supervisory and investigative bodies asks to bring to justice (not least administrative) Alexey Navalny and "check whether his actions contain a corpus delicti."

The Craft filed such an appeal after watching a video published in social networks affiliated with Navalny. The video dated June 2 shows the video broadcast on RT, where different people, including a war veteran, are involved in presenting opinions on amendments to the Constitution. All participants in the video express their support for the changes. In Navalny’s commentary on the video, they are all called "lackeys."



From the post of Navalny:

Oh, here they are, darlings. I must admit that while the team of corrupt lackeys looks rather weak. Look at them: this is the shame of the country. People without a conscience.



Each Russian has the right to relate to the introduction of the proposed amendments to the Constitution, to the real goals of these amendments, as he pleases. But when war veterans are ranked among those whom in the generalized version have been called "the shame of the country", then this is at least vile.

Ilya Craft points out in his address:

At 38 seconds of the video, Ignat Sergeyevich Artemenko, a participant in the Great Patriotic War, was captured. Thus, Navalny A.A., naming the veteran of the Second World War Artemenko I.S. "venal lackey", committed an offense, the liability for which is provided for in Article. 5.61 Administrative Code of the Russian Federation.

The same Craft points to Navalny’s activists who attacked the site of the Immortal Regiment, claiming that criminal cases were instituted on these facts. The craft suggests checking Navalny and his supporters "for involvement in the rehabilitation of Nazism."

It is worth noting here that earlier Alexei Navalny, often substituting his own supporters, usually skillfully "came out of the water dry." Most often, if the punishment was, then it is a few days in custody.

It should be noted that the initiative of Ilya Remeslo itself has received a variety of ratings from Internet users.
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  1. -47
    3 June 2020 06: 36
    and amendments in a self-nulling sauce are the same meanness ...
    phew, what muck is this your ... noodles on the ears ...
    1. +54
      3 June 2020 06: 47
      Meanness is to use very elderly people in their interests to maintain their power at all costs. Meanness is a constant election fraud. Meanness is propaganda from every slit (for our money, using corrupt actors) to broadcast about pensions, the Russian language, about anything other than zeroing.
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        1. +66
          3 June 2020 06: 58
          I wonder why the children of Navalny do not go to rallies. Are they for EP? wassat
          1. +49
            3 June 2020 07: 28
            Quote: Black
            I wonder why the children of Navalny do not go to rallies. Are they for EP? wassat

            Navalny’s son is a schoolboy, and his daughter entered the university in the states. What rallies? Maybe it’s true that she is participating in the states? I do not know recourse And in general, they are in Maryino in the usual three-ruble note lol From there, do not get to the rally. Only to the states!
            1. +17
              3 June 2020 08: 18
              they say. K. Semin, a well-known truth-seeker and denouncer of capitalism, lives in a foreign country, and not in North Korea or Cuba laughing
              1. +36
                3 June 2020 08: 35
                If there were Stalin, they would have shot Navalny for a long time already .. And all sorts of people adjoining him .. What would I be happy for indescribably. Although so, I think all this without a trace will not pass for the latter either. wink
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                    1. 0
                      3 June 2020 12: 23
                      Corruption by itself is everywhere and always - the human factor. But under Stalin, at least the special services caught ghouls, and now, oddly enough, almost one FBK is engaged in exposing corrupt officials.
                      1. +9
                        3 June 2020 12: 28
                        Quote: serpent
                        and we have now, oddly enough

                        You are at the forefront of the struggle, you need to understand? Have irrefutable comprehensive comprehensive information?
                        And they didn’t follow the links, of course ...
                      2. -2
                        3 June 2020 12: 49
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        You are at the forefront of the struggle, you need to understand?

                        Judging by the information that comes to me from the Internet and TV - FBK are the leaders in identifying corrupt officials. Maybe the Russian special services are catching more - but for some reason this is not heard. Recently, I recall only Colonel Zakharchenko.
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        And they didn’t follow the links, of course ...

                        On the first went, and the second off. And Picabu as a source is not very, you know.
                      3. -2
                        3 June 2020 13: 01
                        Quote: serpent
                        Judging by the information that comes to me from the Internet and TV

                        It’s clear - on the cutting edge, definitely! wassat
                        Quote: serpent
                        second non-working. And Picabu as a source is not very, you know.

                        Your untruth!

                        Well, weak, not weak - a moot point. You, for example, are also the source of the real state of affairs. You can argue endlessly and to no avail.
                      4. +5
                        3 June 2020 13: 10
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        It’s clear - on the cutting edge, definitely!

                        Well, look: the FSB regularly eliminates terrorists. On zomboyaschiku and, for example here - on VO show / write about it. And about the exposure of corrupt officials "close to the body", I only learn from Navalny. So it goes.
                      5. 0
                        3 June 2020 13: 16
                        Quote: serpent
                        And about exposing the corrupt officials "close to the body", I only learn from Navalny

                        laughing So that's why you learn from Navalny that he receives orders for "exposure" from ...
                        Quote: serpent
                        "close to the body"

                        don’t you understand? wassat
                      6. +9
                        3 June 2020 13: 27
                        Quote: Serg65
                        So that's why you learn from Navalny that he receives orders for "exposure" from ...

                        And why such a multi-path? Wouldn't it be easier to do this without intermediaries? Yes, and the power itself would have added points. Or is there something shameful and indecent to punish corrupt officials?
                      7. +1
                        3 June 2020 14: 07
                        Quote: serpent
                        Wouldn't it be easier to do this without intermediaries?

                        This is an ancient Russian tradition, it is already more than 100 years old ... Tukhachevsky Budyonny, Semyon Mikhalych interferes with Naval’s note .. ugh ... Yezhov, Voroshilov squeezed off the country's air defense, how to get out? Semen Konstantinovich, do you have any kind of dox in mind? Stern fit? Andrei Andreich here Romanov marks my place, but you, Mikhail Sergeyich! Right now we’re here a duck about the royal kitchen set ... we’ll do business!
                        So it was, it is, and it will be so .... and even with you, Sergey, if you are lucky enough to get into power wink
                        Quote: serpent
                        is there something shameful and indecent to punish corrupt officials?

                        No, not shameful, but before you punish, you need to prove ... is not it?
                      8. +1
                        3 June 2020 14: 21
                        Quote: Serg65
                        This is an ancient Russian tradition, it is already more than 100 years old.

                        Well, very ancient ... 100 years is not a joke. Antiquity is simply ancient. The tradition of squealing. Good tradition ...
                        Quote: Serg65
                        So it was, it is and it will be so ...

                        Has it always been? You specify. And you yourself write that about 100 years of tradition. Now it may be, but who can say for sure what will happen? The world is changing.
                        Quote: Serg65
                        but before you punish, you need to prove ...

                        Well, let the anti-corruption department prove and show - what is the problem? Apparently, they and the snout in the gun themselves, or this agency is a fiction. For check.
                      9. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 35
                        Quote: serpent
                        Has it always been? You specify. And you yourself write that about 100 years of tradition.

                        I outlined the next 100 years to you, and Cain began!
                        Quote: serpent
                        The world is changing.

                        The world may change, but the essence of man is unchanging!
                        Quote: serpent
                        Apparently, they and the snout in the gun themselves, or this agency is a fiction

                        laughing Alex farted and everyone ran to prove that if you run about every lascivious bunch, then there will be no time left for true corrupt officials! There are already no Huber zones!
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                      11. +3
                        3 June 2020 14: 12
                        [Quote] from Navalny and you will find out that he receives orders for "exposure" precisely from ... [/ quotе] So Putin does not give the command for exposure! It turns out like this! So Navalny is in the role of an investigative committee! Are Navalny's investigations fake? In the internet there is a map of Russia where the cities are indicated where they were brought to court about fakes. Why isn't Navalny attracted? So Navalny is right! Then why does Putin not issue commands to expose? Although Putin is aware! Or is Putin in a different course?
                      12. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 05
                        It’s not so simple with terrorists either. The terrorists who committed or prepared something were eliminated! Questioned the dead? How did you find out? Why are terrorists preparing all terrorist attacks against citizens? Are these radical authorities? So it turns out that they do not speak out against representatives of the authorities and 146% agree with the authorities ?! True, some youngsters were attracted for the attempt, or a change of power, or the assassination of the president. Type FSB took them on live bait. Nonsense! Change of power is some kind of program. What programs did the terrorists have? Everything is muddy with terrorism in Russia. Why should they blow up ordinary citizens, and not residents of Rublevka? Ordinary citizens do not affect anything. But the inhabitants of Rublevka may have influence! So maybe it's the people of Rublev carry out terrorist attacks? Therefore, they kill terrorists on the spot to cover their tracks? Which of the oligarchs or ministers was killed or died in a terrorist attack? It turns out all the attacks go against ordinary citizens to intimidate them! Is this ISIS? And why then ISIS does not scare money-giants and government officials? What is this smelly case?
                      13. 0
                        3 June 2020 15: 44
                        Quote: serpent
                        By zomboyaschik and, for example, here - in the HE show / write about it.

                        Quote: serpent
                        And about the exposure of corrupt officials "close to the body", I only learn from Navalny.

                        Well, that's what I say - at the cutting edge! wassat
                      14. -2
                        3 June 2020 19: 03
                        And about exposing the corrupt officials "close to the body", I only learn from Navalny


                        And how many of the exposed were imprisoned? Exhaust tends to zero. The point is not how many he "exposed", but how many were punished. FBK never brought a single case to court. And this is more important
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                      16. +1
                        3 June 2020 13: 13
                        Alexey Navalny called “venal lackeys” the Great Patriotic War veteran Ignat Artemenko and actor Vasily Lanovoy ... And who are the judges !! ??? Piglets in bulk. ???
                      17. +3
                        3 June 2020 17: 43
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        You are at the forefront of the struggle, you need to understand? Have irrefutable comprehensive comprehensive information?
                        And they didn’t follow the links, of course ...

                        I highly recommend you see
                      18. +2
                        3 June 2020 17: 57
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        I highly recommend you see

                        Yeah. Thanks. When was it posted I have not reviewed? Only, I heard something about the elections of 18th year. And in the light of the current realities - the "raised poor" sweep away the policemen who have not come over to their side, mainly in the overseas state.
                        And the opinion of the author, of course, has the right to exist, although very controversial ... hi
                        In turn, regarding the "bulk struggle" I want to share:
                        https://pikabu.ru/story/pochemu_stalin_pobedil_korruptsiyu_ne_boryas_s_ney_chast_1_6161762
                      19. -2
                        3 June 2020 13: 28
                        Quote: serpent
                        Corruption by itself is everywhere and always - the human factor. But under Stalin, at least the special services caught ghouls, and now, oddly enough, almost one FBK is engaged in exposing corrupt officials.

                        If you remove "almost" - then everything is correct hi
                        Well, I don’t know anyone else crying
                2. +1
                  3 June 2020 13: 22
                  Current rulers will not shoot at their project
                3. kin
                  +1
                  3 June 2020 16: 27
                  You read and marvel — I do not like Navalny, Zyuganov too, Putin from the same opera. Well, you can’t love yourself so alone.
                  1. +1
                    3 June 2020 23: 46
                    Quote: kin
                    You read and marvel — I do not like Navalny, Zyuganov too, Putin from the same opera. Well, you can’t love yourself so alone.

                    Well, we have a problem with internal politeness: the thieves are in power, the opposition has some muddy types and just clowns. That's how we live...
                4. +3
                  4 June 2020 18: 12
                  krot
                  "If Stalin would have shot Navalny a long time ago .."
                  And you could be shot, who knows. hi
              2. +2
                4 June 2020 15: 40
                they say in Maskwe chickens are milked, but there’s still no chicken milk
                Does OBS happen
              3. 0
                4 June 2020 18: 39
                So he himself from there hi
                Trotskyist laughing
            2. +22
              3 June 2020 09: 08
              Quote: Reptiloid
              And in general, they are in Maryino in the usual three-ruble note

              what Is a treshka with a price of 13 lamas now considered normal? By the way, he lives in a rented apartment for 240 thousand rubles a month, at Avtozavodskaya next to FBK! But this is not the main thing, interestingly something else .. where does the "modest boy" have that kind of money?
              1. +1
                3 June 2020 09: 15
                Below is a video. The veteran says that the country is rich, the people are poor, the power is poor. I can not understand you. How can you protect these hypocrites-ghouls. So you are in the same boat with them? Or sit in a field nearby ....
                1. +4
                  3 June 2020 10: 49
                  Quote: Snark1876
                  I can not understand you

                  Is that a question for me?
                  1. 0
                    3 June 2020 12: 04
                    "Is that a question for me?"
                    To you and others. It feels like you are for your pension, salary, and so on. ready not to see that this "power" is pushing the country into the abyss. We all will fall, ... but no more expensive now ...
                    1. 0
                      3 June 2020 12: 07
                      Quote: Snark1876
                      that "power" is pushing the country into the abyss

                      People like you are pushing you into the abyss, some for money, some out of greed, and some out of dementia .... which one of you?
                      1. -2
                        3 June 2020 12: 42
                        I see, you. kremlebot))).
                        30 pieces of silver do not burn a hand.
                        Do you work on one training manual?
                        ... "Yes, what is there to watch? You, thirsting for the destruction of Russia for other people's money" -This is a quote from your partner))) Is there anything newer? Well, okay, no success in your disgusting field.
                      2. -1
                        3 June 2020 12: 48
                        Quote: Snark1876
                        I see, you. kremlebot)))

                        laughing Who is not with you, is he necessarily a Kremlin boat?
                        Quote: Snark1876
                        30 pieces of silver do not burn a hand.

                        what You stole the same question from me in relation to you .... does the money in the stocking hide? Or are you kidding?
                        Quote: Snark1876
                        "Yes, what is there to watch then? You, thirsty for the destruction of Russia for other people's money" -This is a quote from your partner)))

                        The person is wise and knows what he is saying! wink
                        Quote: Snark1876
                        Is there anything new?

                        There is ... a revolution has occurred on Alpha Tsintavr !!!
                      3. -5
                        3 June 2020 14: 41
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Who is not with you, is he necessarily a Kremlin boat?

                        Salam, land! It’s good that they didn’t call Solovyov. laughing Such can. wink
                      4. -4
                        3 June 2020 14: 48
                        Salaam laughing !
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        It's good that they did not call Solovyov

                        what Yes, even a load, if only they would not put in a basket laughing
                      5. -5
                        3 June 2020 14: 49
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Yes, even a load, if only they would not put in a basket

                        They will become ... laughing
                    2. +9
                      3 June 2020 13: 24
                      Quote: Snark1876
                      It feels like you are for your pension, salary, and so on. ready not to see that this "power" is pushing the country into the abyss All of us will fall

                      Therefore, there is no need to wait for the authorities - do you need to push the country into the abyss yourself? smile

                      You know, I remember the previous democratization of my country. It also went under the slogan that the current authorities are dragging the country into the abyss, keeping it in the past, and in general - managing it inefficiently. And then the effective managers came ... and came holy nineties.
                      1. 0
                        3 June 2020 13: 34
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        effective managers came ... and the holy nineties arrived.

                        You are all fret, this cannot be, because it cannot be !!! ..... crying
                        hi Welcome Alex!
                      2. +9
                        3 June 2020 14: 34
                        Yeah! And for the saints they came stable! What path have Russia and China gone in 30 years? Will we continue to support the collapse of the country? Where and in what place did we overtake China and the USA? What is it to sound about a good life today? Although of course for someone a lot of crap is a synonym for a lot of food! We are crap, and the flies are what we need! Yeast also produce shit from which they themselves die! But for many people, their selection is what you need! Why should Russians be flies? Or do Russians not deserve a better share? Or do the Russians have those rulers whom they deserve? Why are you offering shit to the Russians? What is good today? The condition of roads is an indicator of the state of the country's economy! With a good economy, there will not be boxes for collecting money for an operation for children at every outlet. The minimum wage will not be the equivalent of prison soldering. With a good economy, working hours will be reduced rather than increased. What good is today in the Russian economy? They cannot even put asphalt, but the one that they put is dissolved by water! They can’t find the water level to storm! What is proud of? Pipes from Russia? Offshore? The oligarchs? The Principality of Moscow is not Russia at all! Or should all of Russia gather in Moscow? And what about the territory free from residents? For rent, for sale?
                      3. -5
                        3 June 2020 15: 03
                        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                        Yeah! And for the saints they came stable! What path have Russia and China gone in 30 years?

                        I didn’t understand. Are you advocating the Chinese path? So, according to him, the authorities need to crush all those who disagree, not stopping before using armored vehicles against the protesters. And at the same time - to weed out all the non-systemic opposition and protect the Internet with the Great Firewall.
                        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                        Why are you offering shit to the Russians? What is good today?

                        Do you offer something better? So we already walked along this path. Twice. In the best case, we will return to the beginning of the 90s again. At worst, we get February 1917 with all its charms. And do not think that your nickname and avatar will save you from the commission of residents of the house on the disposal of excess living space or from the team of income equalizers in the nearest gateway. smile
                      4. +5
                        3 June 2020 15: 17
                        Our Chinese way is the other way around. Instead of industrialization, de-industrialization! Instead of quarantined armored vehicles and self-isolation! The Internet is fenced with a bunch of garbage! Opposition? What can she do? What is her administrative resource? No? Well, let him star as much as he wants! But everything is under control! February 1917 and the 90s I did not offer. We do not need foreign agents of those years! Utilization of excess tenants in the Russian Federation is happening now! Therefore, the population of villages and cities of the Russian Federation is declining and settlements are dying. With the development of Russia, villages and cities would grow and develop! And since this is not, it means that the territory of the Russian Federation is being cleared from the population stupidly! And those who came to power in the 90s lead it! And those who came to power in the 90s look neither at the nickname and the avatar, but in your wallet!
                      5. +2
                        3 June 2020 14: 44
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        And then effective managers came ... and the holy nineties arrived.

                        Yes, I remember - I will startle ... feel
                2. +1
                  3 June 2020 19: 07
                  Or maybe it's easier? Maybe the veteran does not see who can change this power. in his opinion, those who are crammed into "replacements" are even worse?
                  1. 0
                    3 June 2020 21: 11
                    No not like this. And everything is much simpler - they explained to the veteran what and how to speak, he voiced it. And if they would have asked ordinary people on the street, they would have heard complete contempt from the people.
                    1. -1
                      4 June 2020 14: 25
                      Here I have for you exactly such contempt for you, because you judge a veteran like that.
              2. +8
                3 June 2020 09: 20
                Quote: Serg65
                But this is not the main thing, interestingly something else .. where does the "modest boy" have that kind of money?

                Everything from there, "for a jar of jam, for a box of cookies ..."
                1. +6
                  3 June 2020 10: 42
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Quote: Serg65
                  But this is not the main thing, interestingly something else .. where does the "modest boy" have that kind of money?

                  Everything from there, "for a jar of jam, for a box of cookies ..."

                  Time goes by and the bad guys do not change .... The main thing for them is to eat jam, but what the country will not care .... Bulk children, pigs ... spiders ...
                  1. -7
                    3 June 2020 11: 45
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    The main thing for them is to eat jam, and what will not matter with the country .... Bulk children, pigs ... spiders ...

                    Add Poo and Ko here. Only they already do not manage with "jam".
                    1. -2
                      3 June 2020 11: 57
                      Quote: serpent
                      Only they already do not manage with "jam".

                      And what are they doing?
                      1. 0
                        3 June 2020 21: 16
                        Than? And, for example, Sobyanin's deputy in one year became rich by 2 billion, he himself announced this amount. This jam is such a jam, with Lyokhin's "jam" and can not be compared. Most importantly, there are a lot of such "rich" officials and they also cannot explain how they got rich.
                  2. -3
                    3 June 2020 12: 01
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    The main thing for them is to eat preserves, and what will not matter with the country .... Bulk children, pigs ... spiders.

                    Great deal, a jar of jam and a packet of cookies.
                    1. +2
                      3 June 2020 12: 04
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      The main thing for them is to eat preserves, and what will not matter with the country .... Bulk children, pigs ... spiders.

                      Great deal, a jar of jam and a packet of cookies.

                      Someone for this little comrades will betray ....
                    2. +3
                      3 June 2020 14: 43
                      Great deal, a jar of jam and a packet of cookies.
                      Big to see the bank was that ruined the whole country? And they continue to fall apart! The remnants of industry are reaching and pipes from the country are being pulled! And all because of some cookies! Why are they so hungry then?
                      1. +3
                        3 June 2020 16: 38
                        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                        Big to see the bank was that ruined the whole country? And they continue to fall apart! The remnants of industry are reaching and pipes from the country are being pulled! And all because of some cookies! Why are they so hungry then?

                        Yes, because the former .part. activists are sick with wolf hunger ... They will eat until they burst ... All of these Poroshenko, Yeltsins, Gorbachevs, Kravchuk and their offspring, sons-in-law and daughter-in-law, as well as henchmen and slime bastards. Communist gobbling ..... breaking into the body of the USSR ..
                      2. 0
                        4 June 2020 19: 00
                        Like Putin, right? A former communist, a former KGB officer - the defender of these "communist party figures", right?
                      3. 0
                        4 June 2020 21: 30
                        Quote: Beringovsky
                        Like Putin, right? A former communist, a former KGB officer - the defender of these "communist party figures", right?

                        Putin that was headed by Kom. party of the USSR!? My father is also a former Communist ... An ordinary naval officer! I was a communist in the USSR ... And what? Ordinary people decided the fate of the country! Or rubbed next to the "elite" com. Party How
                        Yulia Tymoshenko ... daughter-in-law of a prominent Dnepropetrovsk party functionary ..... Poroshenko son-in-law of the deputy Minister of Health of the Ukrainian SSR Perevedentsev ... Well and so on .... http: //360.biz.ua/? P = 27951
                  3. 0
                    3 June 2020 12: 04
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    Time goes by and bad guys don't change

                    Already laid out above:
                    https://pikabu.ru/story/pochemu_stalin_pobedil_korruptsiyu_ne_boryas_s_ney_chast_1_6161762
                  4. +1
                    3 June 2020 14: 40
                    And the patriots of Russia are better? What is the difference between Navalny and Russian patriots? Bulk Agent ?! And who is a patriot? Deripaska? Rottenbergs? Abramovich? Can I announce the list of patriots of Russia and what have they done for Russia? How much did you invest in Russia and what did you create? After all, if there are enemies, then there are defenders of the country? Right? So who is our defender of Russia? Why are they nameless? Can I find out their names?
                    1. 0
                      4 June 2020 10: 07
                      Don't confuse "God's gift with scrambled eggs"! Do not confuse true patriots with "false patriots", "urya-patriots" and others like that!
              3. -4
                3 June 2020 09: 34
                Quote: Serg65
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And in general, they are in Maryino in the usual three-ruble note

                what Is a treshka with a price of 13 lamas now considered normal? ........ I wonder something else ... where does the "modest boy" have that kind of money?
                I then laughed at the usual three-ruble note !!!!!!
                Now sho cry crying ?????? After all, he could have had even more money if his employees hadn’t robbed him, about which on the network .....
              4. +6
                3 June 2020 09: 36
                Quote: Serg65
                where does the "modest boy" get that kind of money from?

                Exclusively donations from caring citizens. Yes wassat
              5. +7
                3 June 2020 10: 20
                Quote: Serg65
                Is a treshka with a price of 13 lamas now considered normal? By the way, he lives in a rented apartment for 240 thousand rubles a month, at Avtozavodskaya next to FBK! But this is not the main thing, interestingly something else .. where does the "modest boy" have that kind of money?

                Oh how. I recall with longing the USSR, where my baht was given over four squares for four. Fuck now all sorts of Vadiki 80 for their workers will build housing.
                1. +4
                  3 June 2020 10: 56
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  my baht was given on four more than 80 squares

                  4-5 room for four ???? Who did your dad work?
                  1. +4
                    3 June 2020 11: 03
                    four-room for four. Over 80 squares. Exchanged in the 98th year. Dad is a locksmith. He was struggling with the heads of the workshop about floors. Produl. The boss on the second floor got it, and the baht on the fourth.
                    1. +1
                      3 June 2020 11: 10
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      With the heads of the shop in seca fought

                      Ahh, well then it is clear !!! To mere mortals ... not knowing how to fight in sec ... for two + 2 same-sex children, a two-year-old was put, and +2 different-sex maximum treshka!
                      1. +7
                        3 June 2020 11: 29
                        Quote: Serg65
                        for two + 2 same-sex children, the couple was put,

                        For two heterosexual four they gave us at the factory. On same-sex - three rubles, 70 with something squares. He built a factory. In the home. We drove in, everything was there. And a gas stove, and a bathtub with tiles, and wallpaper pokleiya ...
                      2. +6
                        3 June 2020 11: 38
                        Heh, I’ll add. My friend’s mother got a double for two in the same house. Crane operator. I don’t know for sure, but by eye it’s 50-60 square meters.
                      3. +4
                        3 June 2020 11: 58
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I don’t know for sure, but by eye it’s 50-60 square meters.

                        The defense plant?
                      4. +6
                        3 June 2020 12: 06
                        Quote: Serg65
                        The defense plant?

                        ZIL branch. Once it was of all-Union significance. Now he left horns and legs.
                      5. 0
                        3 June 2020 12: 10
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        ZIL branch

                        Well, that’s what they would say, the richest plant, why not be sophisticated in the living space! Batina furniture factory could not afford such a thing, but the USSR Ministry of Health, where my mother worked as the senior surgical sister, especially!
                      6. +1
                        3 June 2020 12: 17
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Batina furniture factory couldn’t afford such a thing,

                        Bullshit. Mom worked in the VOS VAP, this is, if Che is the production of the blind, they planned to build in the 90th nine-story building, drilled holes in the ground.
                      7. +3
                        3 June 2020 12: 19
                        Volodya, a nonsense is a bunker with the head of the workshop, and many drilled holes, but only many did not give the funds!
                      8. +3
                        3 June 2020 12: 25
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Volodya, nonsense is a bastard with the head of the workshop,

                        It was. I do not know how to prove it. This was my future head of the workshop where I worked. If you want, I’ll write in a personal name
                        Quote: Serg65
                        but only many did not give funds!

                        I don’t know to whom and what they gave, but around their house there are their houses, with handrails right to the entrance and further.
                      9. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 55
                        but only many did not give funds!
                        Who today does not give funds for the construction of housing for workers? Who does not give funds for trips to sanatoriums and rest homes? Toad? What is being done for people today? If life has become better today, then more has become done for people !? So?
                      10. 0
                        3 June 2020 12: 03
                        Quote: Serg65
                        To mere mortals ... not knowing how to fight in sec ... for two + 2 same-sex children, a two-year-old was put, and +2 different-sex maximum treshka!

                        And what, somewhere else they give out apartments, but do not buy.
                      11. +2
                        3 June 2020 12: 15
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        And what, somewhere else they give out apartments

                        Orphans (upon reaching the age of 18), Chernobyl victims, displaced people from dilapidated emergency homes, as well as people suffering from a severe form of a chronic disease, the poor have the right to receive free budget housing.
                      12. 0
                        3 June 2020 12: 17
                        Quote: Serg65
                        are eligible for free budget housing.

                        Well, at least some kind of social protection exists.
                      13. +2
                        3 June 2020 14: 56
                        It seems like deputies and top managers as the poorest.
                      14. 0
                        3 June 2020 12: 10
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Ahh, well then it is clear !!!

                        No, it’s not clear to you. The cards were played not the fact of receiving an apartment, but the 2nd or 4th floor already received. Locksmith against nachtsech. The triumph of democracy, however. wassat
                      15. +1
                        3 June 2020 12: 17
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        Triumph of democracy however

                        For such a triumph, the chief of the party would have flown a raven ... Volodya jokes, is it not clear? wink
                      16. +2
                        3 June 2020 12: 24
                        Quote: Serg65
                        a raven ... Volodya jokes, isn't that clear?

                        A moot point. I know for sure that in due time on our ITSS we played all shop all. From apartments to newfangled VHS cassettes. Now, then, it’s clear - no practical jokes, no plant ...
                      17. 0
                        3 June 2020 13: 22
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        on our ITSS we played the whole workshop

                        what in sec?
                      18. +2
                        3 June 2020 14: 48
                        Quote: Serg65
                        in sec?

                        In the storm ... laughing
                      19. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 50
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        In the storm.

                        And we are not only in the borax, we can even in trinka ... L.I. Brezhnev "Celina" laughing
                      20. +2
                        3 June 2020 14: 53
                        Quote: Serg65
                        And we are not only in the borax, we can even in trinka ... L.I. Brezhnev "Celina"

                        In our area of ​​Pravda - Bokombaev they were rolling on an apartment, but I was not an amateur. wink
                      21. -1
                        3 June 2020 14: 56
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        In our area of ​​Pravda - Bokombaev

                        In the hostels for Truth?
                      22. +2
                        3 June 2020 15: 00
                        Quote: Serg65
                        In the hostels for Truth?

                        In "Kirgizavtomashevskih"? No, in residential apartments on "Boston", not far from 67 (then) school. Apartments changed around the area, because the police did not welcome this ... feel
                      23. 0
                        3 June 2020 15: 57
                        Quote: Serg65
                        in sec?

                        I was not old enough then, did not go into such details. But I think it’s unlikely to be in the cards. About cards, as I understand it, this is an isolated case, for fun. You cling to the little things, because essentially nothing to say. request
                        My stepfather, by the way, as a result of a rally (I don’t know which one and now you won’t ask already) got the 1st floor. On us, with my sister, they gave a 3-bedroom apartment. Improved layout. And a year later a brother was born. I finished my studies until the end of school and moved to my grandmother (my grandfather wasn’t there by then), where, in fact, I was born and lived before moving to the factory apartment. Here I am still taking a century, with my wife and son. request
                      24. +1
                        3 June 2020 15: 11
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Volodya jokes, isn't that clear?

                        No kidding at all. We then exchanged this apartment for Stalin's three rubles and for odnushka-Khrushchev.
                      25. +4
                        3 June 2020 12: 18
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        Locksmith against nachtsech.

                        The deputy director lived above us, and welded under us.
                      26. -1
                        3 June 2020 12: 44
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        The deputy director lived above us

                        UAMZ factory?
                      27. +1
                        3 June 2020 15: 15
                        Quote: Serg65
                        UAMZ factory?

                        No, NARZ.
                      28. +2
                        3 June 2020 14: 55
                        I didn’t guess, my father also got a 84-locksmith in 4m-4 rooms
                  2. +2
                    3 June 2020 14: 51
                    And who needs to work today to give the apartment? After all, business is highly efficient today !? So?! So how is a business today with apartments for its employees? In the ineffective USSR, millionaire collective farms built roads and housing for their villagers. Why is the bourgeoisie weak? The enterprises had a lot of sponsored things. And pulled. Why don't the bourgeois pull? Why are they (bourgeois) all bankrupt?
                2. +1
                  3 June 2020 13: 59
                  I am not involved in construction - all of mine already have their own houses and apartments.
                  1. +2
                    3 June 2020 15: 21
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    all of mine already have their own houses and apartments.

                    Could you give me some more details?
                    1. -4
                      3 June 2020 18: 09
                      And in more detail - do not meddle in your own affairs.
                      1. +2
                        3 June 2020 19: 05
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        do not get into your own business.

                        And you would go, Vadik ...
              6. +1
                3 June 2020 11: 48
                Quote: Serg65
                at Avtozavodskaya near FBK!

                Well, not in Paris, in New York or in London? What kind of llamas and apartments do the crooks about whom he talked about own, the Navalny apartment is the so-called uncle Tom’s hut.
                1. -3
                  3 June 2020 12: 01
                  Quote: serpent
                  Well, not in Paris, in New York or in London?

                  Owns in London too!
                  Quote: serpent
                  What kind of llamas and apartments do crooks talk about

                  laughing Was this true? For example, you received a grant for $ 152634 yesterday, for this money, what can you say to the people?
                  1. -2
                    3 June 2020 12: 26
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Owns in London too!

                    Chow reference, please.
                    Quote: Serg65
                    For example, you received a grant for $ 152634 yesterday, for this money, what can you say to the people?

                    Bringing to absurdity? Famous cheap demagogic trick ...
                    1. -3
                      3 June 2020 12: 52
                      Quote: serpent
                      Chow reference, please.

                      laughing What reference, Seryozha? There is only to prove to Navalny that he is not artiodactyl !!! But he won’t prove it, then real estate in London hustled!
                      Quote: serpent
                      Bringing to absurdity?

                      Those. for your $ 152634 you do not want to answer?
                      1. +3
                        3 June 2020 13: 15
                        Quote: Serg65
                        It’s only necessary to prove to Navalny

                        To prove to you what? When Navalny talks about overworked villas and other apartments, he gives evidence. And not just driving empty-headed nonsense, like some.
                      2. -2
                        3 June 2020 13: 20
                        Quote: serpent
                        he gives evidence.

                        What evidence ??? Here is a photo of Putin’s villa, here is a photo of Medvedev’s yacht ..... this is the evidence ??? You yourself are not funny?
                      3. +2
                        3 June 2020 13: 28
                        And the data of cadastres and registers for you filkin diploma or what?
                      4. -1
                        3 June 2020 13: 40
                        Quote: serpent
                        inventory data and registers for you filkin diploma or what?

                        Do you want me to write in your name the data of cadastres and registers? Even take not expensive ....
                        Have you personally seen the very cadastral and registry documents in the original ???
                      5. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 33
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Have you personally seen the very cadastral and registry documents in the original ???

                        Have you seen Western grants to Navalny with your own eyes? How do you generally imagine the process of verifying the authenticity of this or that document by Russians? Crowds of people running around the offices and "feeling" the original real estate contracts? We have to be content with what we have. Fortunately, the children of our corrupt bureaucrats very often show themselves and tell where and how they live.
                      6. -1
                        3 June 2020 14: 42
                        Quote: serpent
                        Have you seen Western grants to Navalny with your own eyes?

                        I see where he lives, but at least kill, I don’t understand where the unemployed have so much money to pay for such housing? !!!
                        Quote: serpent
                        I have to be content with what is

                        Those. to believe in a word to a person who himself is not clean at hand? Does Navalny’s attitude towards Udaltsov, Belykh, Mashke Gaidar not cause you any questions?
                      7. +1
                        3 June 2020 15: 13
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Those. to believe in a word to a person who himself is not clean at hand?

                        And I do not take his word for it. Without Navalny, it’s clear that our elite has rotted. Bulk - something like the next or the last drop in the bowl of understanding what mess is going on in the country.
                      8. +3
                        4 June 2020 09: 50
                        Quote: serpent
                        Bulk - something like the next or the last drop in the bowl of understanding what mess is going on in the country.

                        Bulk in power is the last count in the statehood of Russia!
                      9. -3
                        4 June 2020 11: 24
                        And bureaucrats-oligarchs began to be a solid framework of statehood.
                      10. +1
                        4 June 2020 15: 01
                        Quote: serpent
                        And bureaucrats-oligarchs began to be a solid framework of statehood.

                        And in this particular case, "bureaucrats-oligarchs", if the conversation is about Navalny ?! Let's not refer in this case to Putin, EBN, Khrushchev, Stalin, Nicholas II, Alexander I, princes of Rurikovich ...! And why Navalny? Why don't you, "near-naval" ones, tear your anyc for Platoshkin, Grudinin? Why on earth did Navalny become more convincing than the mentioned "cadres"?
                      11. -2
                        4 June 2020 15: 14
                        I don’t tear for Navalny, as you do, "about something there," put it. It's just that Navalny systematically covers the activities of corrupt officials, while Platoshkin and Grudinin are working on a different plane altogether.
                        Quote: Nikolaevich I
                        Nicholas II, Alexander I, the princes of Rurikovich ...!

                        What does this have to do with it? Do you suffer from monarchism?
                      12. +1
                        4 June 2020 16: 42
                        Quote: serpent
                        Just Navalny systematically covers the activities of corrupt officials,

                        And sho ... except for Navalny, there is no one else? "One of a kind ... a beacon that dispels the darkness of corruption ?! The last" bird-talker "on the globe of Russia?" ... Drop a brick on Navalny's head today ... tomorrow we have no one to tell how many milliards have evaporated from the budget overnight on whose foreign accounts were they condensed? And people will not sleep the next night, worried that they will not find out - will the Forbes list be replenished with whose names? And what else are Grudinin and Platoshkin doing in the "planes", if not "digging", like Navalny, "under Putin"? In my opinion, this is their main activity (!), And the rest is so .... a hobby!
                        Quote: serpent
                        Nicholas II, Alexander I, the princes of Rurikovich ...!

                        What does this have to do with it?

                        Here, exactly, that has nothing to do with it, as well as "bureaucrats-oligarchs" when discussing specifically the personality and deeds, specifically Navalny!
                        Quote: serpent
                        Do you suffer from monarchism?

                        And why should I suffer? He doesn’t hurt me! And if he gets sick, then we’ll anoint Finalgon! But sometimes I hang around with a hangover .... that is, that is!
                      13. 0
                        13 June 2020 21: 25
                        [Quote] [/ quote]
                        Good question, what are the cons ....
                      14. 0
                        4 June 2020 09: 56
                        Quote: serpent
                        When Navalny talks about overworked villas and other apartments, he gives evidence. And not just driving empty-headed nonsense, like some.

                        To make money with "back-breaking labor" ,, villas and other apartments ,, ....? belay Bulk? negative That's where the "empty delirium", and not some!
                      15. -1
                        4 June 2020 11: 22
                        "back-breaking labor" acquired villas and apartments of oligarchs, it was meant.
              7. -2
                3 June 2020 13: 31
                Quote: Serg65
                Quote: Reptiloid
                And in general, they are in Maryino in the usual three-ruble note

                what Is a treshka with a price of 13 lamas now considered normal? By the way, he lives in a rented apartment for 240 thousand rubles a month, at Avtozavodskaya next to FBK! But this is not the main thing, interestingly something else .. where does the "modest boy" have that kind of money?

                Are you sure that he has a gold toilet in his Mariinsky treshka ??? bully For 120 thousand rubles. in month you can remove the three rubles on the Arbat wassat
                1. +1
                  3 June 2020 13: 36
                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  Are you sure that he has a gold toilet in his Mariinsky treshka ???

                  There are two of them ..... indicated in the declaration!
                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  For 120 thousand rubles. in month you can remove the three rubles on the Arbat

                  what And for a long time treshka on Atozavodskaya has become twice as expensive as on Arbat ???
                  1. 0
                    3 June 2020 14: 51
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    Are you sure that he has a gold toilet in his Mariinsky treshka ???

                    There are two of them ..... indicated in the declaration!
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    For 120 thousand rubles. in month you can remove the three rubles on the Arbat

                    what And for a long time treshka on Atozavodskaya has become twice as expensive as on Arbat ???

                    This, in fact, I have a question - with what fright and when did the usual three rubles cost twice as much on Avtozavodskaya as on Arbat ??? !!! bully I do not need to hang noodles on my ears !!! I rented housing in Moscow for a quarter of a century, until I accumulated my own
                    1. 0
                      3 June 2020 14: 54
                      Quote: Corona without virus
                      I rented housing in Moscow for a quarter of a century

                      Filmed in the last century?
                      Quote: Corona without virus
                      when the usual treshka began to cost at Avtozavodskaya twice as expensive than on the Arbat ??? !!!

                      Is Avtozavodskaya a treshka? wink
                      1. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 57
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        I rented housing in Moscow for a quarter of a century

                        Filmed in the last century?
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        when the usual treshka began to cost at Avtozavodskaya twice as expensive than on the Arbat ??? !!!

                        Is Avtozavodskaya a treshka? wink

                        Navalny lives exactly in three rubles - the cops themselves announced this, but I believe them wassat
                        I can fit - a friend rents a three-ruble note on Olympiysokom Avenue in Moscow - for only 60 ty tongue
                      2. 0
                        3 June 2020 15: 02
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Navalny lives exactly in three rubles - the cops themselves announced this, but I believe them

                        This conversation was about Maryino, not Atozavodskaya tongue
                      3. 0
                        3 June 2020 15: 06
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Navalny lives exactly in three rubles - the cops themselves announced this, but I believe them

                        This conversation was about Maryino, not Atozavodskaya tongue

                        Yes, at least about the Arbat am
                        here: https://realty.yandex.ru/offer/8444129670730486529/
                        call, negotiate and even move in today - for 130 trice on the Arbat - and there are hundreds of such apartments !!! so at rental prices I don't need to "stick violets over my ears" hi bully
              8. +1
                3 June 2020 13: 55
                In Moscow, 13 lyam is considered normal, in general, apartment prices in Moscow range from 7 lyam to 4 billion rubles.
                1. 0
                  3 June 2020 14: 54
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  In Moscow 13 Lyamas - is considered normal

                  And even for the unemployed?
                  1. +2
                    3 June 2020 18: 12
                    We have hundreds and thousands of these "unemployed" - but they do not deny themselves anything.
              9. +1
                3 June 2020 14: 51
                Where did the money come from in Moscow
                1. -1
                  3 June 2020 18: 17
                  From 600 large enterprises more than 10000 medium and hundreds of thousands of small-scale trade services and so on in Moscow and the region. And what do you think that in Moscow they do not produce anything. All of the above produce 30 trillion rubles a year.
              10. +1
                3 June 2020 19: 18
                interestingly more .. from where the "modest boy" has such money?


                Fighting corruption is a profitable business. wink
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              1. +1
                3 June 2020 13: 18
                Quote: Operator
                Where the angry posts of the lackey of the State Department of Navalny against police lawlessness in the USA or his daughter the local floyds have already pulled on the most I can not? bully

                fashion is there now: white kneel in front of the blacks and kisses his shoes, God himself ordered the lackeys to crawl on his knees ...
            4. +2
              3 June 2020 13: 12
              Quote: Reptiloid
              Son at Navalny schoolboy

              Duc ... the most is to participate in rallies. We can say a typical representative of his CA. smile
          2. -10
            3 June 2020 09: 17
            Quote: Black
            I wonder why the children of Navalny do not go to rallies. Are they for EP?


            Navalny, unlike Putin, at least does not hide his children and does not deny them to the camera.
            1. -2
              3 June 2020 12: 53
              Quote: pereselenec
              Quote: Black
              I wonder why the children of Navalny do not go to rallies. Are they for EP?


              Navalny, unlike Putin, at least does not hide his children and does not deny them to the camera.

              At a press conference, Putin was asked about his daughters, he did not confirm that it was his daughters. The question was that his children are doing business and very successfully
          3. -2
            3 June 2020 09: 40
            I wonder why the children of Navalny do not go to rallies. Are they for EP?


            They walk with his father. He does not hide his family and suits her, in contrast to nullified.
            1. +5
              3 June 2020 10: 46
              Also, Yushchenko and his wife, Madame Chumachenko, Catherine and children posed at rallies and tribunes, and then Valtsman, Poroshenko ...... However, the succession ... The receivers alone ... American curators do not change!
              1. 0
                3 June 2020 12: 07
                Quote: 30 vis
                Continuity however ... Receptions alone ... American curators do not change!

                And most importantly, that everyone would smile.
                1. +3
                  3 June 2020 12: 09
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  Continuity however ... Receptions alone ... American curators do not change!

                  And most importantly, that everyone would smile.

                  False, cynical smiles ... By the way, their smiles are quite annoying ...
                  1. -1
                    3 June 2020 12: 15
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    False, cynical smiles ..

                    It's called American smiles.
                    1. 0
                      3 June 2020 13: 22
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      False, cynical smiles ..

                      It's called American smiles.

                      more precisely hypocrisy
            2. -1
              3 June 2020 15: 25
              and who needs it? his activities absolutely discredit the opposition, he is a court jester.
            3. +1
              4 June 2020 09: 46
              Duc and dad Lukashenka "family" takes pictures! And the pictures: "Hitler surrounded by children" are also enough!
          4. +2
            3 June 2020 17: 11
            I have a negative attitude to Mr. Navalny, to put it mildly (as well as to the entire liberal public). For me he is ANYONE and his name is NO. And for the "lackeys" let this answer .... yak.
        2. +11
          3 June 2020 08: 22
          Quote: syndicalist
          Vileness - these are such articles on VO under the guise of protecting veterans

          I agree with you. Moreover, veterans are different and, thank God, not everyone has fallen into senile senility, and does not allow pro-government propagandists to use themselves in their vile deeds. So wise grandmothers have remained
      2. 0
        3 June 2020 06: 52
        in agreement ...
        for someone, vileness is a sin ...
        for someone it's just a way of life ....
      3. +9
        3 June 2020 06: 56
        That will be burned at two percent when the people vote for the constitution wink
        1. -2
          3 June 2020 11: 51
          Quote: Break through
          That will be burned at two percent when the people vote for the constitution

          The whole people will be on fire, Mikhanchik. The common people have nothing to expect anything good from the next initiatives of the government. "Calm down, Kozlodoev, let's sit down with a mustache!" (C)
        2. +1
          3 June 2020 13: 27
          Quote: Break through
          That will be burned at two percent when the people vote for the constitution wink

          Yes, no ... again complain that people they got the wrong one - and they are Uzbek.
      4. The comment was deleted.
        1. +12
          3 June 2020 09: 11
          Quote: Malyuta
          it is not without reason that the simonyansha says that "give the people freedom and they will hang us on poles"

          Can you cite the fact of these words as a reference?
          1. -2
            3 June 2020 12: 02
            Alfred Koch, in turn, recalled the famous phrase Simonyan uttered to her back in 2011 in an interview with Oleg Kashin: “you understand that in any free elections we will be defeated by the fascists who will gladly hang us.” Adding: - “everything is much worse. Not only fascists will hang you. Any political force that comes to power as a result of the first free elections in Russia will hang you. ”

            (https://rusmonitor.com/alfred-kokh-simonyan-vas-povesit-lyubaya-politicheskaya-sila-kotoraya-pridet-k-vlasti-v-rezultate-pervykh-zhe-svobodnykh-vyborov-v-rossii.html )
            Oleg Kashin ascribes to Margarita Simonyan a catch phrase, which has been repeatedly circulated in the blogosphere: "but you understand that in any free elections, the Nazis will win, who will hang us with pleasure." (C)
            (http://wikireality.ru/wiki/Margarita_Simonyan)
            Also beaver:
            I would understand if there was a call to assimilate in Russians - but Simonyan herself emphasizes that although she was born and raised in Russia, she does not know Armenian and, in fact, was in Armenia once in her life, she’s still an Armenian, she’s still non-Russian, and does not want to be Russian under any circumstances.

            (https://come-wi-freedom.livejournal.com/528811.html)
            1. +2
              3 June 2020 13: 03
              Quote: serpent
              Alfred Koch

              Those. I must believe unconditionally fascist Koch and Navalinsky favorite Kashin purely word ????? However lol
              1. -3
                3 June 2020 13: 30
                Well, do you believe Putin? Or not?
                1. +1
                  3 June 2020 13: 31
                  Quote: serpent
                  Well, do you believe Putin?

                  I believe my eyes and my brain!
                  1. -1
                    3 June 2020 13: 58
                    Quote: Serg65
                    I believe my eyes and my brain!

                    In vain. You’re over there - Vlasovites seem to be everywhere ... Trust, but check how it is basking ...
        2. DVR
          +3
          3 June 2020 13: 13
          No wonder the simonyans says

          The strange position of the site administration.
          My comment was deleted due to the use of the term "grunt" in relation to liberal-minded people, although the President himself publicly used it in relation to US satellites. They also slapped a warning.
          And here a famous person is insulted (they distort the name), and everything is fine.
          I have nothing against the comment below, although this is not entirely correct :)
          1. DVR
            0
            4 June 2020 04: 45
            Well, at least after a day they were deleted.
      5. +15
        3 June 2020 07: 16
        Quote: Deck
        Meanness is to use very elderly people in their interests to maintain their power at all costs.

        And the angel Mr. Anal used the same veteran in his own interests, though without the knowledge of the same veteran, vilely shitting personally in my soul. Can he ??? hi
        1. +10
          3 June 2020 09: 12
          Quote: Evdokim
          Can he ???

          Everything is possible for him, which is what local Vlasovites rejoice !!!
          1. -3
            3 June 2020 12: 56
            Quote: Serg65
            what the local Vlasovites rejoice !!!

            What are you all about Vlasovites? With a tricolor on an avatar. Like, the thief shouts the loudest: hold the thief?
            1. -1
              3 June 2020 13: 08
              Quote: serpent
              What are you all about Vlasovites?

              Yes, because my father did not finish you, I have to finish the unfinished!
              Quote: serpent
              With a tricolor on an avatar

              Ohhhhh, St. Andrew's flag was among the Vlasovites ... do you not know?
              Quote: serpent
              Like, the thief shouts the loudest: hold the thief?

              laughing This is your typical Navalninskaya strategy!
              1. -3
                3 June 2020 13: 38
                Quote: Serg65
                Yes, because my father did not finish you, I have to finish the unfinished!

                Why are you writing down all those objectionable to Vlasovites? No headache? Look under the bed - all of a sudden the Vlasovites settled there.
                1. -3
                  3 June 2020 13: 48
                  Quote: serpent
                  Why are you writing down all those objectionable to Vlasovites?

                  Not all, but only those who lead my homeland to perdition!
                  Quote: serpent
                  Look under the bed - suddenly the Vlasovites settled there

                  Under my bed, two mice from boredom died Vlasov waiting for your friends to bypass my bed!
                  1. 0
                    3 June 2020 14: 41
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Not all, but only those who lead my homeland to perdition!

                    But isn't the government leading somewhere, either? Well, not Navalny, or is Moscow's Echo really? The maximum whom Navalny can lead is several hundred young children. And certainly not VO commentators - what do we decide by and large?
                    So if the homeland is heading for doom, I advise you to take a closer look at the top.
                    1. -1
                      3 June 2020 14: 44
                      Quote: serpent
                      Well, not Navalny, or is Moscow's Echo really?

                      The worst thing is that the Russians love to step on the same rake! 1905, 1917, 1991, 2014 and did not learn what !!!!!
                      1. -1
                        3 June 2020 15: 52
                        Quote: Serg65
                        The worst thing is that the Russians love to step on the same rake!

                        The worst thing is that the Russians were taught that any changes are only for the worse. I wonder how it would have developed with the country if Peter the First was for "stability" and a "special path" ...
                    2. -1
                      3 June 2020 18: 23
                      Quote: serpent
                      Well, not Navalny, or is Moscow's Echo really? The maximum whom Navalny can lead is several hundred young children.

                      Adolf Schicklsgruber also started with hundreds of guys .;
                      1. -2
                        3 June 2020 19: 29
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Adolf Schicklsgruber also started with hundreds of guys.

                        Then there was no such control by the ruling regime. Now no Adolf would have achieved anything.
                      2. +1
                        4 June 2020 08: 31
                        Quote: serpent
                        Now no Adolf would have achieved anything.

                        Well, they were milked in the outskirts, although the time was not in the 30s.
                2. +1
                  3 June 2020 14: 07
                  And all of you who disagree with your opinion are called "Kremlebots", "Guardians", "Hollies" and so on.
                  1. -1
                    3 June 2020 15: 45
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    And you all who with your opinion do not agree call "Kremlebots" "Guardians" "lackeys" and so on.

                    Are you specifically talking about me or have you assigned me to some group of people and at the same time denounce "us" all together?
                    If specifically me, then you are lying.
                    1. -2
                      3 June 2020 18: 27
                      Quote: serpent
                      Are you specifically talking about me or have you assigned me to some group of people and at the same time denounce "us" all together?

                      And what difference does it make, one you or a group of you, but something smacks of it is Russophobia.
                      1. 0
                        3 June 2020 19: 23
                        Quote: tihonmarine
                        Who cares

                        One ... and the other teases ...
                        Would you like it if I indiscriminately put you in some group and ascribe to you what you didn't say?
                3. +1
                  4 June 2020 20: 19
                  Quote: serpent
                  Why are you writing down all those objectionable to Vlasovites? No headache? Look under the bed - all of a sudden the Vlasovites settled there.

                  Apparently, for these same Vlasovites, the field marshal the couch in the ban flew, according to the article an insult laughing
            2. -1
              3 June 2020 18: 31
              Quote: serpent
              What are you all about Vlasovites? With a tricolor on an avatar. Like, the thief shouts the loudest: hold the thief?

              But your avatar corresponds to you like nothing else.
              1. -1
                3 June 2020 19: 27
                Quote: tihonmarine
                But your avatar corresponds to you like nothing else.

                Do you know how to do a lapel / spell in a photo, a homegrown astrologer magician? By the profile picture, he, you know, characterizes people ...
                1. 0
                  4 June 2020 08: 28
                  Quote: serpent
                  By the profile picture, he, you know, characterizes people ...

                  Well, you yourself Serg65 65 on the profile picture characterized. Look at yourself first.
                  1. -1
                    4 June 2020 11: 41
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Well, you yourself Serg65 65 on the profile picture characterized.

                    I did not characterize Serg65. I was surprised (as Putin, for example, is constantly surprised at the price of gasoline) that a man with a tricolor on his avatar is fixated on Vlasovites. Since, usually about the Vlasovites you can hear from the type of "communists" with a hammer and sickle on their avatar. AND suggestedthat Serg65 himself is a Vlasov man. Only suggested.
                    Who are the Vlasovites? Traitors to the Soviet Union. Serg65 served in the Soviet army? Did you give an oath to defend? And Serg65 is now defending the power of the "democrats" who are denigrating the USSR. And is he here to talk about Vlasov?
                    When you read comments, delve into what you read.
                    1. +1
                      4 June 2020 12: 35
                      Quote: serpent
                      Who are the Vlasovites? Traitors to the Soviet Union.

                      More precisely, the traitors of the Soviet people who left this people and went over to the side of the enemy. But do not call them, they have no excuse.
        2. -7
          3 June 2020 09: 18
          used the same veteran in his own interests, though without the knowledge of the same veteran, vilely shitting my soul


          Well, he didn’t use it, but Rush. And the reference not to the veteran who went to the partisan as a boy, but to the other corrupt salesmen in the video, too, has spoiled your soul? There are enough of them in the video.
        3. -8
          3 June 2020 12: 05
          Quote: Evdokim
          And the angel Mr. Anal

          What a simple humor ... How old are you, Yurochka, 5-10?
      6. AUL
        +14
        3 June 2020 07: 29
        Quote: Deck
        Meanness is propaganda from every slit (for our money, using corrupt actors) to broadcast about pensions, the Russian language, about anything other than zeroing.

        Yesterday first I saw an advertisement for the zeroing amendment on the duroscope. It was presented as "for the stability of power." Therefore, it turns out that irremovability is stability!
        1. -6
          3 June 2020 08: 16
          Is not it so? Do you want to select and share again, or to throw off the loot from a helicopter? We already probably don’t have a single company older than 30 years old, we all selected and divided, you look at foreign shares that have been trading there for 100-180 years like General Electric and you understand why we live so poorly. Take a look around people create their own business, attract investments and no one bothers them, if you do not have worthy ideas and you are not given money for their implementation of moneybags, then only kick yourself
          1. -4
            3 June 2020 08: 40
            no, they just want leveling, a salary of 120 rubles average, a buck for 68 kopecks and the only one. the party leader ... she’s so envious - she couldn’t, so let others not
          2. AUL
            +4
            3 June 2020 10: 11
            Quote: Rubi0
            Is not it so? Do you want to select and share again, or to throw off the loot from a helicopter?

            Your assumptions about my desires - let them remain on your conscience (I did not write this). And everything else, you wrote - what does it have to do with the fact that the country is being dragged into the autocracy, and with a very "suboptimal", IMHO, monarch? 24 years, and then +12 more - a total of 36 years - won't it be too much? I'm afraid the country will not stand it!
            1. -3
              3 June 2020 11: 05
              ok, what are your desires?
              and so for the sake of interest, did you try to pay taxes yourself at least once with your payroll, buy Gazprom shares and receive dividends every quarter?
            2. -2
              3 June 2020 14: 26
              You can not worry about Russia, only the United Russia party will remain autocratic, and Putin will leave in 2024. He will be over 70 already. He is already starting to show signs of fatigue. For him, it would be much better to put the siloviki in his place for 50 years and in the subject to operate the remote control through a novice in the presidential chair as a state consultant. And in the end will establish a personal life. Or maybe everything will happen even faster and more unexpectedly after the adoption of the new constitution, he will announce the removal of the powers of the President of Russia, he will announce a new candidate for his post, and then it went off, just as it was with the unexpected resignation of the Medvedev government.
              1. AUL
                +2
                3 June 2020 14: 59
                You know, Vadim, I would completely agree with your post - you wrote everything correctly and logically! Would agree - if not for one small, but nasty BUT. Why then all this fuss with amendments to the Constitution is started? For the protection of animals? After all, all amendments, except zeroing, are purely declarative in nature! There was still an amendment about government officials - and that emasculated under the root without too much advertising. So there is no reason to hope for your forecast. Alas...
                1. 0
                  3 June 2020 18: 24
                  And here I can also ask a question: why the hell did the Medvedev government be put aside, for the sake of what - the protection of which animals? But let’s see what will happen next, exactly what a dodger or a dodger awaits us after the approval of the new constitution.
        2. +2
          3 June 2020 09: 13
          Quote from AUL
          Consequently, irremovability - this, it turns out, is stability!

          Don’t be afraid, Platoshkin will be the next king ... definitely !!!
        3. +10
          3 June 2020 09: 29
          Consequently, irremovability - this, it turns out, is stability!

          Stability is GDP led by Russia

          Everything else: the ruble exchange rate, the price of oil, your income and standard of living ... has nothing to do with stability
          1. +2
            3 June 2020 12: 05
            Quote: Santa Fe
            Stability is GDP led by Russia

            belay what Oleg ... I somehow didn’t notice such moods after you, that something got bogged down?
            1. 0
              3 June 2020 14: 28
              Probably self-isolation with zeroing agreed.
      7. 0
        3 June 2020 09: 18
        Did you want to be president of Kharlamov (bulldog)?
      8. +7
        3 June 2020 09: 33
        Deck
        Today, 06: 47
        Meanness is to use very elderly people in their interests to maintain their power at all costs

        Offended by Navalny? It is strange that you did not even question the fact that he called the veterans lackeys. It is evident that you do not consider meanness. I think in Ukraine the same way it all began. In the same way, the worldview was breaking. Overton's window: today we call lackeys, and tomorrow in the face we beat for the St. George ribbon.
        1. -1
          3 June 2020 09: 49
          Offended by Navalny?


          I was offended by a veteran whom the propaganda RT put in a video with all kinds of faces.
          1. +5
            3 June 2020 10: 04
            I was offended by a veteran whom the propaganda RT put in a video with all kinds of faces.

            Well, that is, it turns out correctly, I realized: the greatest indignation is not your words of Navalny, but a demonstration of a veteran whose position diverges from yours. That is, a sneaky veteran of the Second World War, a sneaky director, a sneaky screenwriter. Bulk is good and he is right.
            Tin .... Or maybe you’ll already throw off the masks and just start hitting the veterans? But you see, they go to parades, wear ribbons ... Come on, drag them here. It’s the norm there.
            1. -2
              3 June 2020 10: 11
              You do not work for Simonyan? Your demagoguery abilities are awesome!

              Or maybe you’ll already throw off the mask and just start hitting the veterans


              Why offend respected veterans when you are?
              1. +3
                3 June 2020 11: 55
                Quote: Deck
                You do not work for Simonyan? Your demagoguery abilities are awesome!

                But can you tell me what the RT propaganda is there?
              2. +3
                3 June 2020 12: 18
                You do not work for Simonyan? Your demagoguery abilities are awesome!

                Well, if I have the ability to demagoguery, then you have the ability to cowardly avoiding direct question. Throw it on the fan and then fly its tail - yes you look master
                Why offend respected veterans when you are?

                You cowardly liberals, the spirit is not enough for me in reality. Veterans to choke, to smear the snot on the Internet and your next gay parade is coming down - these are your achievements laughing
        2. -1
          3 June 2020 21: 49
          called veterans lackeys
          But can’t the cosmonaut Valya be called the same word?
          It will be possible and deserved. If a person is lackey, then why not call him that? Or is this word prohibited in public communication?
      9. -6
        3 June 2020 11: 39
        Quote: Deck
        Meanness is to use very elderly people in their interests to maintain their power at all costs.

        This is yes. I don’t know what lured the veteran into this rotten propaganda, but called himself a cargo - climb into the back. Whether it’s a veteran, the first female astronaut, or artists of large and small theaters — if they powder the people’s brains and serve the authorities — they are all lackeys and deserve all condemnation.
        1. 0
          3 June 2020 12: 23
          Is it a veteran, the first female astronaut, are the artists of the big and small theaters - if they powder the brains of the people and serve the authorities - they are all lackeys and deserve all reprimand.

          Of course, beat the old man, who suddenly dared to express his opinion. Find his address, come and smash on the wall. You look what lackey ....
          Oil painting: the opposition attacked the elderly, insulting them only because their opinion did not coincide with the opinion of this opposition. Allow such an opposition to power, so they will begin to hang up those who disagree. Democratic after all
          1. -4
            3 June 2020 12: 35
            Quote: Designer 68
            Oil painting: the opposition attacked the elderly, insulting them only because their opinion did not coincide with the opinion of this opposition.

            And the authorities do not accuse all who are against its "reforms" of Russophobia? Do not forget about the beam in the eye, monsieur ...
            1. -1
              3 June 2020 12: 45
              Do not nod at the authorities. Or are you ready to pummel the old man tit for tat? By the way, I'm not a philologist, but I still see the difference between the word "Russophobe" and the word "lackey". Well, you have no time for subtleties. The main thing for this old man and woman astronaut is to drag in. So that it was not familiar.
              Veteran Lee, first female astronaut
              1. +1
                3 June 2020 13: 21
                Quote: Designer 68
                Or are you ready stumble old man an eye for an eye? By the way, I'm not a philologist, but I still see the difference between the word "Russophobe" and the word "lackey". Well, you have no time for subtleties. The main thing is drag the old man and the woman into the astronaut.

                Yes, where did you get it, about "drag in"? Maybe these methods are in the order of things for you. I wrote that no one should beat anyone.
                1. 0
                  4 June 2020 14: 22
                  Maybe this is the order of things for you.

                  Poke your liberoid buddies. Or is it all, cultural cultures dried up?
          2. -3
            3 June 2020 12: 59
            Quote: Designer 68
            Of course, beat the old man, who suddenly dared to express his opinion. Find his address, come and smash on the wall.

            Nobody beat the old man, and is not going to. Like buffoons with zeroing astronauts. But a portion of contempt - get it and sign it.
          3. -1
            3 June 2020 20: 36
            Allow such an opposition to power, so they will begin to hang up those who disagree.


            Of course! They will begin with you. laughing Liberasty they are vindictive.
        2. 0
          3 June 2020 14: 59
          I could not stand it any more and I will express myself. Why do you immediately stigmatize everyone who disagrees with your opinion? Or is your opinion the only correct one? What the fuck are you Democrats? I remember Navalny's epic observer with hockey players, there was also a continuous hanging of labels. To Sobchak's question: "Where did you get the money Lesh", he did not answer, but as they say "stupidly moved out."
          1. -2
            3 June 2020 15: 58
            Quote: Parabelum
            all disagree with your opinion

            You did not understand.
            Quote: serpent
            if they powder the people’s brains and curry favor with the authorities

            These constitutional amendments are a veiled usurpation of power by oligarchs and their puppets. And those who call to vote for them are lackeys.
            Although, in fairness, you can understand these "artists" and "heroes-cosmonauts" - they live sweetly under the new power. Why not suck up?
      10. -3
        3 June 2020 13: 58
        and you so whine that by zeroing? Are you afraid your master will not live? I’ll vote for Putin a hundred times, and people like you ...... it’s like a litmus test, the redder you are from anger, the more we understand that we are doing everything right.
        1. -3
          3 June 2020 14: 45
          Quote: mirexes
          the redder you are with anger, the more we understand that we are doing everything right.

          This is erroneously primitive logic, Sasha. Example: Imagine that you are at the helm of a ship. But the helmsman you are so-so, and passengers are angry that the ship is constantly shaking from side to side. But this does not mean that you are doing everything right, understand?
          1. -2
            3 June 2020 18: 35
            and who are the judges? Bulk or what? who determines what they are doing right or not. In order to evaluate whether a pilot is doing well or not, passengers must have all the information, maybe just a hurricane and air holes overboard, and if you change a pilot in flight, nothing will change at best, and at worst you will fall, because how passengers can check the qualifications of an incomprehensible pilot, Yes, and in flight? and do passengers have knowledge of how to operate to evaluate what the pilot is doing right or wrong?
            1. -3
              3 June 2020 19: 40
              If in such a rich country as Russia, the indigenous people are impoverished and dying out; medicine, education, culture are degrading; Those who receive 17tyr are called "middle class", then something is definitely wrong with the managers. You don't have to be a pilot here.
              And in general: for presidents, as pilots they do not study anywhere. I am sure in the Russian Federation there are many competent lawyers, economists, etc. The main conscience and honor to be.
              1. -2
                4 June 2020 05: 55
                Well, yes, who else but you know who and how much gets. You get information from us personally from the government. Your problem is that you are not always happy, such as you were not happy with the Russian Empire, then the USSR, and now Russia. you just don’t see your house. therefore, it is better to go to the owner and live there. and here we will meet you when you come to the demonstration and we will talk with you based on the example of your host.
                1. -2
                  4 June 2020 11: 50
                  Quote: mirexes
                  you just don’t see your house. so better go to to the owner and live there. and here we will meet you when you come to the demonstration and following the example of your the owner We will talk with you.

                  I guess, through the prism of what mentality you look at the world ... And it's sad ...
              2. -2
                4 June 2020 05: 57
                it’s better to make donations to the bulk so that his daughter graduates from the United States, otherwise you will be knocked on the skid and bulk, but better he will set you up, as he does with his friends who are sitting
          2. -3
            3 June 2020 18: 56
            And who gave you the right to speak for all passengers? personally, everything suits me.
      11. +1
        3 June 2020 18: 54
        Amendment Art. 81. 3-1
        Add a provision to nullify the presidential term to article 81:

        3-1. The provision of Part 3 of Article 81 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, limiting the number of terms during which the same person may hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation, applies to a person holding and (or) holding the office of the President of the Russian Federation, without taking into account the number of terms during which he occupied and (or) holds this position at the time the amendment to the Constitution comes into force Of the Russian Federation, introducing the relevant restriction and does not exclude for him the opportunity to hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for the periods allowed by the provision.
        That's all there is to know about the "amendments" to the Constitution. Everything else is garbage to cover this one.
      12. +1
        3 June 2020 20: 26
        Quote: Deck
        Meanness is to use very elderly people in their interests to maintain their power at all costs. Meanness is a constant election fraud. Meanness is propaganda from every slit (for our money, using corrupt actors)

        I don’t dare to judge what you wrote, that is, you wrote frank slander, but how vile is it? It’s probably mean because the elderly and the artists sincerely believe, and propaganda is not good, but it’s clearly not worth the meanness, and the muhlezh has never been proved
      13. 0
        4 June 2020 21: 20
        Meanness is to use very elderly people in their interests to maintain their power at all costs

        This is you about the grandmother "God's dandelion" with the Order of Victory on Channel One, when no one stopped short and asked "who are we showing?"

        No matter how cynical it may sound, but it is the authorities that have been using various veterans and impostors in their tail and mane recently, pulling the strings "victory is our everything."
        There are few of them left, and frankly, in my right mind there are even fewer, I don’t think that they understand what they are twirling.
      14. 0
        5 June 2020 04: 25
        Ie, having desecrated WWII veterans, Navalny did the right thing?
    2. +20
      3 June 2020 06: 52
      Quote: kepmor
      and amendments in a self-nulling sauce are the same meanness

      Something prevents voting against? Or do not like the amendments justify such dirt on the Internet?
      1. -10
        3 June 2020 06: 57
        And the dirt that pours from the state media on opponents of the amendments is justified. And you and others like you, justifying any tricks, just to push through a zeroing sample of purity and justice? It seems to me that these amendments are supported only by traitors to the Motherland
        1. +5
          3 June 2020 07: 33
          It is useless to talk with you ..... Any actions by the authorities by you are not acceptable. So even if the count on the head of the chesha, you will not please. Therefore, I believe that you should not discuss with you, but simply ban on such sites. Sit on the echo ....
          1. +15
            3 June 2020 07: 50
            There are people offended by life! They were born like that!
            Damaging! Whoever comes to power, they will be offended!
            And in this life themselves, they did nothing! Even if such a person is admitted to power, they will ruin everything and find the guilty people somewhere, but they will never admit their guilt! Damaging!
            Let Anal, or someone else there ... come to me and say that I am lousy! Sorry....!
            1. -5
              3 June 2020 12: 40
              Quote: minigor
              Let Anal, or someone else there ... come to me

              How many comedians on the site ...
          2. -1
            3 June 2020 08: 18
            Any actions of the authorities by you are not acceptable. So even if the count on the head of the chesha, you will not please.


            Yes, I do not like modern power. In neighboring branches, everyone is hotly discussing its venality, incompetence, and theft. The decline in the space industry, in shipbuilding, the economic crisis, the collapse of medicine and education. You, apparently, do not care about the country's problems. You like it all. Do you consider yourself a patriot? Seriously?
            1. +10
              3 June 2020 08: 45
              Yes, listen.
              It's not about power, whatever it may be.
              And about insulting those who are dear to us all.
              Whoever you are, a liberal or a communist, even if you hate everything that happens in Russia, you still should not insult the elderly people in general, and especially the few remaining veterans. Not worth it for any reason, and under no circumstances.
              Except, of course, if you hate not only modern power, but also in general our country with all its history.
              Here Navalny she is hated and contemptuous. And I would ask him the question, as an intelligent person: knowing how our people still relate to this topic, why bother burning ourselves like that? Indeed, obviously this will not add to his popular support.
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              1. -2
                3 June 2020 09: 24
                "Who is all this? Or do you think that you, the Vlasovites, are the majority?" Watch the language. Putin is not Stalin. And who's the Vlasovite is still to be seen.
                1. +2
                  3 June 2020 11: 01
                  Quote: Snark1876
                  And who is the Vlasovite, this is still a must see.

                  What is there to watch? You, longing for the destruction of Russia for other people's money, are the Vlasovites !!! As Comrade Matthew said ... By their fruits you recognize them !!!!!
                  Quote: Snark1876
                  Putin is not Stalin

                  laughing Therefore, you are still alive !!!
                  1. 0
                    3 June 2020 12: 19
                    You have a cognitive dissonance - They rob the country, they raise a pension -They
                    education and medicine destroy -They
                    salaries of five million a day with them.
                    Villas, planes, their ship. A million of beggars is our salary of 200-300, the dollars we have and on. graveyard in 65u us ..
                    But we are Vlasovites, mind for reason, after such your thoughts, enters. Darkness...
                    1. -1
                      3 June 2020 12: 21
                      Quote: Snark1876
                      But we are Vlasovites

                      Absolutely right!
                      Quote: Snark1876
                      Darkness...

                      Do you own anything?
                      1. +2
                        3 June 2020 12: 26
                        Thanks for the answer. I have no more questions for you. Everything is clear about you.
                      2. -5
                        3 June 2020 13: 14
                        Quote: Snark1876
                        Everything is clear about you.

                        belay Come on!!!! It’s not clear to myself in myself, but you didn’t know what ... immediately everyone understood ... well, it’s necessary ... well, well done good
                      3. -2
                        3 June 2020 14: 04
                        Quote: Serg65
                        It’s not clear to myself in myself

                        Oh how! But what about:
                        Quote: Serg65
                        I believe my eyes and my brain!

                        This is not faith, it is egocentrism, sir.
                      4. -3
                        3 June 2020 14: 19
                        Egocentrism, sir, it would be if I told you that there are two opinions, one of mine, the other is not correct and did not even enter into polemics!
                        Quote: serpent
                        Oh, how!

                        what Why are you surprised? Life always brings surprises, even in terms of self-understanding of its essence wink
                      5. 0
                        3 June 2020 16: 09
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Life always brings surprises, even in terms of self-understanding of its essence

                        You see, you haven’t really figured it out yet, but already hold the answer for all of humanity:
                        Quote: Serg65
                        but the essence of man is unchanging!
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            4. 0
              3 June 2020 16: 23
              Quote: Deck
              In the neighboring branches, everyone is hotly discussing its venality, incompetence, theft

              And, in neighboring countries they shoot, hang, burn and bomb ... and what should we do?
          3. +10
            3 June 2020 08: 36
            "Any actions of the authorities are not acceptable to you" - by no means. Actions aimed at restricting the rights and freedoms of citizens and maintaining power by any means are unacceptable. Actions aimed at improving the quality and standard of living, developing the independence of both citizens and administrative territorial units are very acceptable and even welcome.
            Unfortunately, such examples of actions by our authorities have not been recalled for the last ten years. But the reverse - a lot.
            Well, as for the amendments directly, some of their number is rational (for example, this: "The president must live in Russia for at least 25 years, hold office for no more than two terms, not have foreign citizenship" or the definition of the Russian language (for the definition of the Russians themselves, it is true did not dare)). Some simply do not make sense - this is the prerogative of the executive authorities and no entries in the constitution will change anything at all (like raising the retirement age, while the constitution prohibits worsening the social situation of citizens). The rest are a blatant violation, if not of the letter, but of the spirit of the same constitution for absolutely personal purposes. With the full support of that part of the "elite" whose welfare is directly related to the current government.
            1. +2
              3 June 2020 08: 56
              Quote: unaha
              Any actions of the authorities are not acceptable to you "- by no means. Actions aimed at restricting the rights and freedoms of citizens and maintaining power by any means are unacceptable.

              Tell me, what do the actions of the current government give you personally a reason to insult a WWII veteran by calling him a traitor?
              1. +3
                3 June 2020 09: 04
                In general, no one called him a "traitor", they called a group engaged in propaganda of amendments and using a veteran for this as lackeys. I do not even exclude that a direct calculation was made for such a reaction of people, i.e. direct provocation. Zugzwang in essence))) I do not know how, but it was necessary to exclude veterans from the generalization, yes, regardless of their position.
        2. -2
          3 June 2020 09: 19
          It seems to me that these amendments are supported only by traitors to the Motherland
          What exactly is betrayal?
          1. -1
            3 June 2020 09: 24
            In calls for a change in the constitutional order! Did I clearly explain?
            1. -3
              3 June 2020 09: 36
              Will we have a constitutional monarchy or just a monarchy?
              As was capitalism, so capitalism will remain.
              The amendments on labor protection are especially ridiculous)))))
              In calls for a change in the constitutional order! Did I clearly explain?
              No, more in detail, please.
            2. -1
              3 June 2020 10: 18
              And the fact that the Constitution of the Russian Federation was written by the Americans in 1993 and looks more like a constitution for its colony does not seem to bother you, right?
              1. 0
                3 June 2020 11: 06
                And the fact that the Constitution of the Russian Federation was written by the Americans in 1993 and looks more like a constitution for its colony does not seem to bother you, right?

                In the yard 2020. Russia is emerging from a colony of Americans, which is why the 1993 Constitution must be changed. Or are you for continuing ....
                1. +5
                  3 June 2020 11: 39
                  Is that exactly what needs to be changed or have I written the opposite? Here are just some who think that they are so good.
                  I won’t go in principle. I won’t provide them with a turnout, but they’ll write any numbers.
                  1. +1
                    3 June 2020 11: 57
                    cats have beguiled me))))
                    1. +4
                      3 June 2020 12: 52
                      The faces of cats are different, as are their views on life.
          2. 0
            3 June 2020 11: 00
            Quote: hhhhhhh
            What exactly is betrayal?

            Only the blind today do not see that Putin brought the country to the threshold of disaster. The catastrophe, much more serious than the one that befell the USSR in '92. And it is very likely that more serious than the one that happened in 1917. I do not believe that there are such blind people among Internet users. So, only those who sold the country for a handful of silver coins to the enemies in power defend the current government.
            1. +1
              3 June 2020 11: 45
              Quote: syndicalist
              Only the blind today do not see that Putin brought the country to the threshold of disaster.
              Are the hedgehogs already over or are the Germans standing near Moscow? Or maybe the Americans and the British landed in Arkhangelsk, or the Japanese in Vladivostok already? How many silver coins did you receive for a lie?
            2. +2
              3 June 2020 11: 58
              Only the blind today do not see that Putin brought the country to the threshold of disaster.
              How "Never before have the Russian people lived so richly as under Putin?" what about apartment cars, trips abroad. I have it all.
              1. -3
                3 June 2020 12: 11
                Quote: hhhhhhh
                What about apartment cars, foreign trips. I have it all.

                I wrote - for a handful of silverfish
                1. +4
                  3 June 2020 12: 16
                  Quote: syndicalist
                  I wrote - for a handful of silverfish

                  I have earned. I didn’t go to officials. I did not ask for a pension. You should apologize.
              2. -3
                3 June 2020 19: 40
                "what about apartments, cars, trips abroad. I have it all"

                I wrote - for a handful of silverfish. The answer is 100 points)))))
                1. +2
                  3 June 2020 19: 44
                  Quote: Snark1876
                  "what about apartments, cars, trips abroad. I have it all"

                  I wrote - for a handful of silverfish. The answer is 100 points)))))

                  You haven’t earned a car or an apartment in 30 years? Capitalism is not for you.
            3. 0
              3 June 2020 14: 40
              "Only the blind today cannot see that Putin has brought the country to the brink of disaster." What a catastrophe is this - in your parallel universe, something worse than 1917 and 1991 combined is happening, very interesting.
        3. -2
          3 June 2020 18: 39
          that is, true patriots for ensuring that foreign legislation is higher than Russian in Russia?
      2. +3
        3 June 2020 06: 59
        I will definitely vote AGAINST ...
        with all due respect to veterans, I consider it a meanness to pull old people into a propaganda show ...
        for this is full of slime with jesters near-neutron ...
        1. +2
          3 June 2020 07: 06
          Quote: kepmor
          I will definitely vote AGAINST ...
          with all due respect to veterans, I consider it a meanness to pull old people into a propaganda show ...
          for this is full of slime with jesters near-neutron ...

          Will definitely vote FOR. Since the arguments of people who rank veterans as corrupt lackeys and stuff ... are unacceptable to me. Voting will show.
          1. -4
            3 June 2020 07: 17
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            Voting will show.

            I am very sorry, but where were you in the "circus" able to see the vote?
            1. +2
              3 June 2020 07: 20
              Quote: Malyuta
              and where are you in the "circus" could see the vote?

              Your right not to participate in the "circus"
            2. +4
              3 June 2020 12: 05
              Only THEM vote?
              After the Bush election, when they made a court decision only once and did not consider it a precedent.
              After the Trump election, when not most Americans voted for him.
              The circus moved to the United States for a long time))))
          2. +2
            3 June 2020 07: 37
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            Voting will show.

            Amendments to the Constitution are already legitimate, as they are approved by all necessary entities, ”said the head of the Central Election Commission Ella Pamfilova. Therefore, according to her, one can only with great respect treat the will of Vladimir Putin to hear people's opinions.
        2. +1
          3 June 2020 09: 42
          I will definitely vote AGAINST ...
          with all due respect to veterans, I consider it a meanness to pull old people into a propaganda show ...
          for this is full of slime with jesters near-neutron ...

          You, a stupid man, have expressed an opinion, but for some reason you want to deprive the veteran of your opinion. Are you offended by his choice? Or presses for you that his choice does not match yours?
      3. +3
        3 June 2020 07: 17
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Something prevents voting against?

        So vote, don't vote, anyway you get a three-letter word. Everything has already been decided.
        1. +6
          3 June 2020 09: 06
          Yes? Are you sure?
          1. -5
            3 June 2020 10: 01
            Quote: Mikhail Tynda
            Yes? Are you sure?

            This vote does not solve anything.
      4. +1
        3 June 2020 07: 33
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Quote: kepmor
        and amendments in a self-nulling sauce are the same meanness

        Something prevents voting against? Or do not like the amendments justify such dirt on the Internet?

        Voting is profanity, all amendments have already been adopted and they are legitimate. Voting is a show for the West and for our people
        1. 0
          3 June 2020 07: 42
          Quote: RUSS
          Voting is profanity, all amendments have already been adopted and they are legitimate. Voting is a show for the West and for our people

          Nightingale says that the network signed by the most cunning, will enter into force under two conditions 1. the consent of the constitutional court (everything is clear here) 2. after approval.
          Here they "approve and prepare"
        2. 0
          3 June 2020 08: 41
          It is generally incomprehensible to anyone window dressing - everyone understands everything perfectly, and even those who are "for")))
        3. -4
          3 June 2020 09: 18
          The procedure for amending the Constitution is defined in chapter 9 in it. According to Art. 6 of the Law on Referendum, the Constitutional Assembly has the right to propose amendments to the constitution for a popular vote. So do not hysteria. Nothing has been accepted yet. And yes, yes. Here she is a real democracy. Could solve a narrow circle. Here the people decide. And about the fraud in the vote ... You remind me of one inspector of Russian Railways: there can be no violations! I didn’t find anything, but you are breaking because I know it!
          1. +5
            3 June 2020 10: 23
            Quote: Mikhail Tynda
            Here the people decide.

            The people decide when it comes out with a pitchfork. Everything else is nonsense.
            1. +5
              3 June 2020 10: 47
              Maidan - popular will? Maidan = democracy. Hmmm ...
              1. -3
                3 June 2020 10: 56
                Quote: Mikhail Tynda
                Maidan - popular will?

                So.
                1. +1
                  3 June 2020 12: 49
                  Why the hell is such a democracy? Better there? Oh yes ... visa-free ...
          2. +2
            3 June 2020 10: 51
            For what minus? laughing For the Constitution? Referendum law? Or for the people? good
      5. +9
        3 June 2020 07: 49
        Do you believe in the honesty of the vote count?
      6. +6
        3 June 2020 08: 19
        Something prevents voting against?
        have already counted as it should, what kind of "vote"
      7. 0
        3 June 2020 12: 01
        Even if the majority vote against, it will not affect anything. The amendments are already legalized.
      8. -5
        3 June 2020 12: 07
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Something prevents voting against?

        The bottom line is that vote, don’t vote ... We have already been counted for everything and accepted what we wanted.
    3. +13
      3 June 2020 07: 00
      Bulk scoundrel! Shows how the people want to vparit amendments, this is what Russia needs most smile
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    5. +3
      3 June 2020 07: 18
      Oh, power and the opposition began to sort things out by veterans))) what kind of society is such a power with the opposition, the eagle and the tails of one foul-smelling coin) the other has nowhere to come from
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      1. -1
        3 June 2020 08: 40
        "It is foolish to say - to make people laugh" "Do you think there are no embezzlers in Putin's entourage?"
      2. -4
        3 June 2020 12: 09
        Quote: vkl.47
        I don’t see anal with a picket at the US Embassy in protest against the dispersal of demonstrators.

        He has his own country, where else to rake and rake the Augean stables of corrupt officials.
        1. +3
          3 June 2020 12: 53
          Well yes. Kirovles alone is worth something. From abroad, when will she be back? Bees against honey.
          1. -2
            3 June 2020 13: 22
            Quote: Mikhail Tynda
            Kirovles alone is worth

            Kirovles is alone, but Putin has many friends.
            1. +2
              3 June 2020 15: 46
              Is one not enough?
              1. -1
                3 June 2020 16: 34
                Everything is relative. Kirovles alone is not enough on the scale of the country. And a bunch of oligarch friends are many.
            2. +2
              3 June 2020 19: 37
              Think, if, God forbid, Navalny crawls into power, he will have fewer friends?
              1. -3
                4 June 2020 11: 54
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                Think, if, God forbid, Navalny crawls into power, he will have fewer friends?

                He will have exactly as many friends as the people allow him to control the president. Like in South Korea, where people drove their president for corruption with a girlfriend.
                1. +1
                  4 June 2020 11: 58
                  What kind of control on the part of the people are you talking about if there is no civil society in the country? If even at the level of HOA, everyone is deep down. Until the people organize themselves and solidify, any government will row for themselves.
                  1. -1
                    4 June 2020 12: 04
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    Until the people organize themselves and solidify, any government will row for themselves.

                    What is it? God save the king, many summers?
                    1. 0
                      4 June 2020 13: 33
                      That is exactly what happens. Whoever comes to power, the effect will be the same.
    7. 0
      3 June 2020 08: 14
      Quote: kepmor
      and amendments in a self-nulling sauce are the same meanness ...

      Quote: Deck
      Meanness is to use very elderly people in their interests to maintain their power at all costs.

      Quote: syndicalist
      Vileness - these are such articles on VO under the guise of protecting veterans

      good Yes
      Dear like-minded people! I hasten to notify you that the amendment law of 14.03.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX will come into force only after:
      Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, provided for by Article 1 of this Law, are considered approved if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation vote for themwho participated in the all-Russian vote.

      Therefore, I suggest not throwing the beads, but on July 1, 2020, go and express your opinion on the amendments. Let them know that their amendments are in fact.
      1. +1
        3 June 2020 12: 09
        Only the results are legally binding. referendum.
      2. -3
        3 June 2020 12: 13
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Therefore, I suggest not throwing the beads, but on July 1, 2020, go and express your opinion on the amendments. Let them knowthat their amendments are in fact.

        They know. Therefore, everything is already considered. It remains, at the very least, to organize the appearance - and the point is in the hat. How much can you say: playing with their crooks in their own games on their own field is hopeless.
        1. -1
          3 June 2020 14: 51
          Quote: serpent
          How much can you say: playing with their crooks in their own games on their own field is hopeless.

          Necessary. Just do not go on about those who insistently advise staying at home. Observers and we have. we won’t have any special hopes, but even without a fight, we will not be able to take positions.
          1. -2
            3 June 2020 16: 19
            Quote: ROSS 42
            without a fight, losing positions is not good.

            Oh my god! The "fight" has already taken place. The winner is determined. It remains only to remove the "storming of the Winter Palace" with the recruited crowd. If you want to waste your time and get a small minus in karma for participating in a performance on usurpation of power, it's your business. Amendments will be accepted in any case - not for this purpose they were invented by the "sovereign minds". And so let the sixes sweat a little, trying to organize a decent turnout.
    8. -3
      3 June 2020 10: 15
      Before criticizing these amendments, you need to at least read them. And along with the constitution. And then there are many who shout about violation of the constitution, etc. But they themselves have never seen these documents.
      As for the amendments, with the exception of the controversial point about the presidential term (zeroing), they are useful, at least they won’t do worse.
      1. -2
        3 June 2020 14: 56
        Quote: Guardian Angel
        they are useful, at least they won’t do worse.

        They are useful to those who usurped power and independently controlled the election rules, the timing and payment of their slave labor. And we need it to be better, in accordance with existing laws. They were not instructed to change the constitution from the people. there was an order to guarantee social rights and freedoms, to ensure a decent life, and they ensured their eternal carefree living in complete irresponsibility for what was happening.
        Hotz capitalism? Let them step into their America.
    9. +1
      3 June 2020 11: 19
      Quote: kepmor
      and amendments in a self-nulling sauce are the same meanness ...
      phew, what muck is this your ... noodles on the ears ...

      winked I don’t know about what kind of “self-zeroing sauce” your Western tantrums are, but on July 2, we will see how the people will remove your liberal noodles from their ears and reset you ...
      1. +3
        3 June 2020 15: 02
        These guys will be completely nullified when they introduce neural networks and AI into all state institutions, all state contracts and everything else in the country through one wallet, with a strict audit: who, when, how much, why, from whom and so on, as well as the income and expenses of citizens will evade it will be impossible to pay taxes, as well as to engage in shadow business and money laundering, as well as Internet fraud with the help of interchangeable IP addresses of stolen phones of left SIM cards and other things, they are already starting to introduce such a system.
        1. +2
          3 June 2020 15: 43
          Quote: Vadim237
          via the Internet using replaceable IP addresses of stolen phones of left sims

          So it is clear to everyone that now all Russian Internet resources (and the media) are under total censorship of the West and the United States. How else do we write something? request
      2. -2
        3 June 2020 16: 32
        Quote: Terenin
        how the people will remove your liberal noodles from their ears and zero you out ...

        You just do not drown with happiness with Botox ... But we all so want to continue the banquet during the pandemic ...
        1. +3
          3 June 2020 16: 42
          Quote: ROSS 42
          You just do not drown with happiness with Botox ...

          Have personal experience !? understand winked

          Quote: ROSS 42
          We all really want to continue the banquet during the pandemic ...

          Well, what a banquet ... Yuri Vasilyevich, end frivolous populism. You have normal posts hi
    10. +1
      3 June 2020 13: 53
      and veterans is a disgrace to the country? if so then the shame of the country is you
    11. 0
      3 June 2020 14: 42
      If this photo was of my father and grandfather, I would not sue, we would definitely meet with him, visit social networks or something else, he would not be able to do after that.
  2. +24
    3 June 2020 06: 38
    He stepped over all the frames, shameful ...
    The same Craft points to Navalny’s activists who attacked the site of the Immortal Regiment, claiming that criminal cases have been opened.

    Crush such. Inhumans. Damn, no words, how is it possible in our country, where every family lost someone in that terrible war ...
  3. +15
    3 June 2020 06: 38
    Good morning, dear forum users!
    So I can not restrain myself.
    This goner already got it. Why is this provocateur not put? How much has this said? Eight years to cut down the forest or sew mittens? Why is free? Or is this ... beneficial to someone?
    1. +1
      3 June 2020 06: 46
      the most paradoxical, but the main beneficiary is here ... the Kremlin ...
      The bulk old project of the "gray cardinal" Voloshin, which smoothly passed into the hands of Vaino and Kindersurprise ...
      1. +2
        3 June 2020 06: 53
        Good morning dear kepmor!
        Judging by the negative ratings of the comments, the last thing wound up here ......! There are no words; one math remath is present.
        Why isn’t sitting up for provocations with people? And what did he do on the radio? Justified Nazism! What is it like?
        Why is such a goodbye to some ......
      2. +2
        3 June 2020 07: 55
        Exactly! But many here do not understand this
    2. -4
      3 June 2020 06: 58
      Nobody will plant him, he is the flesh of the flesh of those who are above.
      1. +1
        3 June 2020 07: 00
        Good morning dear Deniska999!
        I agree with you and with those respected commentators who consider and defend their opinion on this. What a provocateur and a healer.
        Pop hapon of our time.

        And for these "amendments" I liked one here. About animals. Generally, the constitution is for humans. Concerns rights and freedoms, relations between man and state. And according to this amendment, we were equated with animals.
        That is, we are in power for these, belly. Very funny.
        1. +1
          3 June 2020 07: 28
          You are interpreting a little misunderstanding, however, the legislation on the protection of animals is indeed weak, how many cases when nonhumans do terrible things, you can’t count. Perhaps this is the rare case when the amendment is needed. But since they are trying to push strange political initiatives under good wishes, they will have to vote against.
          1. +5
            3 June 2020 08: 47
            "Perhaps this is the rare case when the amendment is necessary" - are you serious? Is it not enough to make the necessary changes to the administrative and criminal codes? And the main thing (and this is actually the only really necessary thing) is the unswerving FULFILLMENT of at least existing legislative norms.
    3. +2
      3 June 2020 07: 33
      Given the previous detention, it’s time for a long time to come.
      Quote: Olegater
      ...... This goner already got it. Why is this provocateur not put? How much has this said? Eight years to cut down the forest or sew mittens? ......
    4. +1
      3 June 2020 09: 03
      Beneficial to someone? Dear, if you start raising the question with such an edge, you risk becoming a weak liberal and Russophobe yourself.
    5. -1
      3 June 2020 09: 30
      This goner already got it.


      It's not very clear, are you talking about This Ilya Craft? Professional snitch?
      1. +1
        3 June 2020 11: 16
        Colleagues, why did you all focus on Navalny and on the Craft! Here is a well-played performance in which the third participant is playing an invisible role. And this is not a veteran.
        Old people are defenseless, but wise. They often only had the instinct of self-preservation. Their wisdom is aimed at survival - they have no other means of protection. Neither physical nor mental strength, nor the impulses of youth - nothing. In many cases, they will say whatever they want to those on whom they depend, while thinking differently. Sometimes these thoughts become beliefs.
        So, the statements of the veteran are really not the subject of conversation. And the subject is, I repeat, the play. There are only two main characters in it - Navalny and Putin.
        Navalny plays the role of a villain slandering veterans, while Putin, dressed in white clothes as "the leader of the nation, the defender of the weak and oppressed," will play the final scene on the curtained Mausoleum during the Victory Parade. There he, with great warmth in his voice, turning into the metal of the Commander-in-Chief, will utter words of eternal gratitude to the veterans for our difficult, but such a "happy" present with the prospect of moving into an even "happier" future. Thus, the negative hero Navalny and those of the spectators who applauded the villain will be thrown into the dust. This is how the performance will end - as it was originally conceived, that is, with applause to Putin.
        What about Craft? And he is a secondary, but necessary character - a performance cannot consist only of the initial and final scenes, the gap between them must be filled, say, with a lawsuit with the villain Navalny. Otherwise, the audience will go to the buffet and, having forgotten about the beginning of the performance, will not appreciate the finale.
        1. -2
          3 June 2020 11: 39
          at the curtained Mausoleum during the Victory Parade-- Are you sure about this?
          1. +3
            3 June 2020 11: 47
            Colleague, I do not really understand your question)) Explain, please.
  4. +7
    3 June 2020 06: 39
    It’s interesting in the USA that the fifth column is also being molded by the administration, or is something more serious?)))
    1. 0
      3 June 2020 06: 53
      The main craft of the author of the denunciation of Ilya Borisovich from the moment he turned from a petty Petersburg lawyer into a member of the ONF and the Public Chamber is writing “revealing” articles about the Russian opposition on the pro-government portals of RIA-Novosti (“Russia Today”) and Ruposters, as well as writing denunciations to the Prosecutor General , police, Roskomnadzor and other investigative and punitive bodies of the Russian Federation. The main object of his attacks is the founder of the politician's Anti-Corruption Fund, Alexei Navalny. Ilya Remeslo is one of the advocates of preserving the notorious 282 article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
      Well, such a business, they knock and feed at the expense of Navalny
  5. -1
    3 June 2020 06: 41
    Navalny is the appointed "gapon", otherwise he would have been jailed long ago. Conditional + Conditional + Conditional = Conditional. Except for him, so - to anyone. laughing
    1. -3
      3 June 2020 08: 26
      Navalny is the power wing of one of Putin's power groups, namely the Sislibs. Counterweight, so-called. security forces in the fight for the feed base and the share of the budget pie. Those have prosecutors, policemen, guards, and these have youth and street. Therefore, there will be nothing to Navalny and the wheel of genotube will continue to rotate until the axis breaks. In general, a plague on both of your homes. Let's just watch their squabbles. For the time being ...
    2. +1
      3 June 2020 22: 18
      "Article 128.1. Defamation is punishable by a fine in the amount of up to five hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of the wage or salary, or any other income of the convicted person for a period of up to six months, or by compulsory works for a term of up to one hundred and sixty hours."
      And if Navalny had lied, this article would have been applied to him long ago and would have been trumpeted in all the media.
  6. +10
    3 June 2020 06: 43
    Well, what is interesting?
    Veterans do not need to touch. Dare to do this, PORTABLE PUBLIC !!!
    But, the upper ones, they must start with themselves ... they created a situation where every ... riffraff, without a doubt, offends people who have proved to the whole world that they are worthy of the proud title of DEFENDERS, WINNERS.
    Impunity, this is an artificial situation created by the top ... because everywhere and always, opinion is one thing, public insult, it's another!
    1. +5
      3 June 2020 07: 30
      I was silent, silent, because they bought me, took me back. I have melted. And betrayed my fellow sufferers. Just think about what happened to me. But did I allow myself such a thing at the front? I was not afraid of a damn thing there. And here, because of the lousy garage ...

      (k / f "Garage")
    2. -1
      3 June 2020 07: 56
      Quote: rocket757
      Veterans do not need to touch. Dare to do this, PORTABLE PUBLIC !!!

      I agree! But it seems that this is pure setup. You can relate to the bulk as you like, but it is not an idiom. And in mind, he most likely had the group that shot this video.
      Then it takes on a completely different meaning. hi
      1. -2
        3 June 2020 08: 02
        Quote: Malyuta
        But it seems that this is pure setup.

        Only punish specific individuals whose guilt has been proven ... i.e. deservedly.
        AN is not interesting to me, this is not a trick, not a trump ace, pf-e .... I am interested in the ONE who created and maintains the situation when any obscurity / Z / OA can mock OUR veterans! So he / they want to "bring" many, many questions, specific and radical.
      2. +6
        3 June 2020 08: 51
        Not even a "setup", just a transfer of the focus of attention to a specific, advantageous in this case detail. If there was no veteran, they would turn their attention to doctors, for example, "who save people, but these ..."
        1. -3
          3 June 2020 09: 23
          Quote: unaha
          Not even a "setup", just

          Prsto \ difficult ... not always what we think. it doesn’t always seem to us, then there is ...
          For anyone, it’s easy to substitute the one ... whom it’s easy to substitute for there is for what and how. It’s not easy to substitute, if there’s nothing at all. In general, this is concrete, to me pf-e. It is itself, ....
          Even a distracting maneuver does not pull, by and large ... only for the most primitive organisms.
          1. +1
            3 June 2020 09: 32
            rocket757 (Victor) good - offset)))

            Nevertheless, it works (and again - vote with your heart, don't turn on your brain): "I will definitely vote FOR. Since the arguments of people who classify veterans as corrupt lackeys and so on ... are unacceptable for me. Voting will show."
            1. -2
              3 June 2020 09: 38
              There is not that PRINCIPAL that really helped this \ our state .... but because I’m not interested anymore ... but I won’t let anyone vote for myself.
      3. +1
        3 June 2020 11: 32
        Quote: Malyuta
        You can relate to the bulk as you like, but it is not an idiom.
        yes, he’s not an idiot, he’s a blood enemy of Russia, negative smart and cunning, offending the memory of my parents. The aspen stake will find him after death.
    3. -1
      3 June 2020 09: 03
      Quote: rocket757
      But, the upper ones, they must start with themselves ... they created a situation where every ... riffraff, without a doubt, offends people who have proved to the whole world that they are worthy of the proud title of DEFENDERS, WINNERS.

      I'll tell a story. Let it be unpleasant, but it was a reality.

      I was frankly shocked. I have not yet encountered such a phenomenon with my own eyes. This is already after, when military pensioners, former front-line soldiers spoke about the war, I realized that it was not in vain that the people said: “To whom is war, to whom is mother dear.”
      It's me that one veteran lives his life in a shack and can’t get the right housing, and the other is campaigning to violate the guarantee obligations, the positions of which after decades of rule have ceased to be arranged by power structures ...
      1. +1
        3 June 2020 09: 16
        Quote: ROSS 42
        and the other agitates to violate

        ANY person should have a head on his shoulders! By the way, and for that, Schaub THINK, for everything else, however, too. We are adults, we must understand that there is a reason, and only then the consequences ... otherwise it does not. There are ALREADY no questions for veterans, but for those who use them for their own benefit, there are many specific questions.
        As for who, where, what and how ... different service was for people. To that was a man, that remained such in any situation, and the substance ... it was such, is and will be. It depends only on the person himself.
        1. 0
          3 June 2020 09: 19
          Quote: rocket757
          There are already no questions to veteransbut for those who use them to their advantage, there are many specific questions.

          good That's it!
          In general, the use of famous people for their own selfish purposes is vile and disgusting.
          1. +2
            3 June 2020 10: 28
            In general, the use of famous people for their own selfish purposes is vile and disgusting.
            Even if these people themselves share these goals and agree to voice them? Or did these famous people themselves insist that their position be known to others?
  7. +2
    3 June 2020 06: 47
    Bulk crossed all the frames. It's time to plant.
    1. +4
      3 June 2020 07: 26
      Quote: Break through
      Bulk crossed all the frames. It's time to plant.

      Correctly. It's time to put on the count.
      1. +2
        3 June 2020 07: 46
        This is HYDRA! and here, unfortunately, Hercules is not observed ....
        By the way, THIS HYDRA was born and .... in general and on the side with which we do not see Hercules.
        Everything is as always, the reason is the consequences! you are going to count on the consequences, but the reason remains so.
      2. -5
        3 June 2020 07: 49
        will not be planted for a long time ...
        it is simply necessary for the Kremlin ...
        he’s like that whistle at the kettle ... a steam ejector ...
        1. +1
          3 June 2020 16: 12
          Quote: kepmor
          will not be planted for a long time ...
          it is simply necessary for the Kremlin ...
          he’s like that whistle at the kettle ... a steam ejector ...

          Yes, okay, you, the pure agent of the influence of the West, ascribe real positive functions to the Kremlin. No.
          The fact that the de.bil gathered around him are controlled by the special services, so it is "twice or two".
          How did he identify potential leaders of the protest movement? Gozman or what?
          And whom did he discredit the political opponents of the authorities with the help of his "investigations"? Maybe Ulyukaeva?
          Well, rightly so, why should he be made a prison banner in the fight against red, like a criminal Savchenko ... giving an extra reason for the Western bark.
          We didn’t try to suggest that he had no political brains, and what kind of power would not use such an “opponent”.
          Where are they, real opposition members with their programs and teams?
          Maybe I’ve been waiting for them too winked
  8. -1
    3 June 2020 06: 47
    this one would turn around if the government wanted it to sew gloves for a long time
  9. -3
    3 June 2020 06: 50
    I wonder how old grandfather is.
  10. +2
    3 June 2020 06: 57
    Bulk weird in full, sees no boundaries.
    However, with the involvement of 100-year-old veterans in political drinking, it is also not very beautiful.
    It is necessary to take care of such people.
    1. +3
      3 June 2020 07: 48
      Quote: Doccor18
      It is necessary to take care of such people.

      So and only so.
      if THIS person WANTS to say something, he can, he deserved it, but ..... did he want to say that?
  11. +1
    3 June 2020 07: 04
    An assessment of this impudent misunderstanding can be given ... but only this is of little use, because, I don't think that there are many supporters of this "stupid" in VO! It is necessary to "go" to the sites where Navalny grazes with his supporters and dump dirt on him there! And the law enforcement agencies should not let this freak out!
    1. +4
      3 June 2020 08: 02
      Do you have any dirt on him? lol Here he has a lot of incriminating evidence against members of the government, oligarchs and their sneaks from the TV.
      1. 0
        3 June 2020 09: 19
        Quote: Greenwood
        Do you have any dirt on him?

        Especially for those who are in a tank with their hatches tucked up ...: But the shown abominable insult to a WWII veteran is no longer compromising? belay I believe that for decent people this is compromising evidence! And for those who have not finally "zombified under Navalny", it will help to get rid of the rose-colored glasses "from Navalny"! Is it worth paying attention to "navalnodela"? At least dress up Navalny from head to toe, for them everything is ambrosia! Or are you, for example, against all amendments to the constitution ?! "I feel such dislike for them that I can't even eat!" ...? Are you against not giving away the "territory"? Against the fact that gomoceku could not "create families (marriage unions"? I have a negative attitude to a number of amendments, but not to these! So put the "lackeys" in a dark, warm place and hold for 2 weeks ... (culinary recipe wink )
        1. +2
          3 June 2020 09: 35
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          And the shown abominable insult to the veteran of the Second World War is no longer compromising?
          Pff. And the use of the image of a veteran to promote their goals is not compromising? It’s very smart to show the veteran’s amendments for advertising. Then the truth is that this veteran will again be useless to anyone, but these are trifles.
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          I think that for decent people is compromising!
          Decent people may in some way disagree with Navalny, but certainly they will not be lackeys of Putin's gang.
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Or are you, for example, against all amendments to the constitution ?!
          Against. I am against the entire Constitution of post-Soviet Russia, and the current amendments will not change its essence.
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Are you against not giving away the "territory"? Against that gomoceku could not "create families (marriage unions"?
          And in order not to surrender the territory, amendments to the Constitution are necessary? But how could we not have distributed half of Russia over the past 30 years without this amendment? Amazing
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Against that gomoceku could not "create families (marriage unions"?
          Are you so interested in sexual minorities and their lives? Do not give to sleep? Crawl to your bed? lol I don’t care about them. And again, they could not marry in Russia before. Why now some corrections are needed for this ?!
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          I have a negative attitude to a number of amendments, but not to these!
          And I see all these populist pseudo-patriotic amendments only as a screen for the main thing - zeroing out the terms of staying in power of Putin, who has bothered everyone, who has long been lying and is not responsible for his words. Didn’t he say that he would not cling to power and would leave after two terms. Didn’t he say that it is impossible to change the Constitution for the sake of the interests of a particular ruler? Did he promise that there would be no increase in the retirement age ?! HE. I didn’t answer for my words.
          1. -1
            3 June 2020 10: 53
            Quote: Greenwood
            And the use of the image of a veteran to promote their goals is not compromising? ,

            Well yes ! "Using the image of a veteran for propaganda" disgusting? So now, in your opinion, it is necessary to insult the veteran even more vilely and verbally ?! I want to wash after reading your "pearls"!
            Quote: Greenwood
            Decent people may in some way disagree with Navalny, but certainly they will not be lackeys of Putin's gang.

            Then whose lackeys will they be? Whose lackey, Bulk? Let me know, do not be shy!


            Quote: Greenwood
            And in order not to surrender the territory, amendments to the Constitution are necessary?

            It is possible that it is necessary! In order, for example, to somehow protect myself from Navalny and the like! From the chief liberals Yavlinsky! From the murky "socialists" Platoshkin and other "someone's" lackeys! That would not squander the country more, as it was already done under the existing constitution, giving the islands to China on the Amur, the northern waters of Norway, South Siberia to Kazakhstan, Novorossiya and Crimea to Ukraine, Narva to Estonia! And now the next in line is the Kuriles!
            ALL ! I'm tired of answering your rest rubbish! Adieu!
            1. -3
              3 June 2020 13: 52
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              ALL ! I'm tired of answering your rest rubbish! Adieu!
              There is nothing surprising in this. You have no arguments. Like all putinoids. Putinoids, in an effort to shield their sun-faced ones, have already completely lied.
              1. +3
                3 June 2020 23: 34
                Quote: Greenwood
                You have no arguments. Like all putinoids

                We have arguments and they are expressed! And I am also ready to speak to "interested" persons ... who know how to listen and understand what they have heard, but it is useless for you to repeat it: it's like talking with porcelain elephants brought from Thailand! I say this, who has never been a "putinoid" ... who never voted for Putin, who has long been speaking on the internet (and on page VO) criticizing Putin and the ruling regime in general! And, calling me "putinoid"; you are like a grandma-character of a Soviet film, who, to the question: "Who is the witness?" - answers: "I am a witness! And what happened?" ... But not accepting Navalny and other bulk-like shushura, I I do not want to change the "awl for soap"! Or, as they say in the dacha SNT, change cow dung for pig dung ... or even worse ...: for human debris!
          2. +2
            3 June 2020 11: 41
            Putin bored with everything ---- Are you these All?
            1. -3
              3 June 2020 13: 53
              I am among them. And there are many of us, believe me. And we are out of the way with lackeys who have successfully attached themselves to the feeder.
              1. +3
                3 June 2020 19: 42
                I saw how many of you. About seven hundred people came to a rally in St. Petersburg, yelled and dispersed. Gamepads collect more.
              2. +2
                3 June 2020 23: 07
                Quote: Greenwood
                And we are out of the way with lackeys who have successfully attached themselves to the feeder

                Well yes ! You want to attach other lackeys to the feeder (!) ....: Navalny, Platoshkin and their shushura!
        2. +1
          3 June 2020 09: 41
          What did liberal Putinists have such refined steels? All of them are half-pokers sneaking up to their fifth point. As for the territories, it’s also interesting, because as recently as six months ago, the authors of these amendments put up for sale the Kuril Islands. Well, although the property and the bureaucrats families did not remember, this amendment was hacked. With these wicks, herots, too unclear. Some kind of Kudrin or Nabiullina will say that I won’t give money and that’s all. What will you do then? In principle, all this is neither cold nor hot, but zeroing is already complete lawlessness. As well as the voting procedure for all this rubbish.
    2. -2
      3 June 2020 21: 19
      Well, I'm a supporter of Navalny. I'm waiting for compromising
      1. +3
        3 June 2020 23: 44
        Assuming that there will be few Navalny's supporters at VO, I was mistaken! I thought too well about the "audience" BO! Yo-my, how were those who claim that the site degraded in recent years turned out to be right! No matter how critical I am of Putin and "his people", but I am still not on the path with the brainless supporters of Navalny!
      2. +1
        4 June 2020 10: 23
        Quote: Prahlad
        Well, I'm a supporter of Navalny. I'm waiting for compromising

        Well, yes .... the same "Paradise" that is waiting for the tram! All the dirt on Navalny is available on the Internet! Tear off the "fifth point" from the sofa and limp to the computer ... knock on the "keyboard"!
  12. +11
    3 June 2020 07: 11
    Those. all the other participants in the video, except the veteran, are really lackeys?
    1. +2
      3 June 2020 08: 03
      Quote: 7,62x54
      really lackeys
      Regarding the veteran, it really didn’t work out very well, but with regard to the rest, it's quite lackeys. In another way, the supporters of the current thieves’s authorities cannot name the language.
  13. +6
    3 June 2020 07: 19
    Lya shit surfaced in the VO news, sometimes it's better to "chew" than write ..
  14. -2
    3 June 2020 07: 22
    The "little boy" completely lost his scent from impunity, as did those who, in their comments, suddenly began to run into the supposedly cynical use of old people in the video without condemning the fact of what had happened. But Navalny walked not only on the WWII veteran, but also on other respectable people participating in this video. I would like to ask some people, what does the amendment to the Constitution have to do with it, or do they give the right to this guy to insult honored people?
    1. -3
      3 June 2020 22: 32
      Until recently, these "honored people" praised the extension of the retirement age and the withdrawal of pensions.
  15. +2
    3 June 2020 07: 22
    Navalny and his supporters are products of the regime that was established in 1991 ..... Scoundrels fight scoundrels ..
    1. +1
      3 June 2020 07: 50
      In fact it is ... they are not enemies, in fact, they are the same, sides of one ... temporary.
  16. +2
    3 June 2020 07: 25
    Excuse me, who is this bulk? A thief and a petty opportunist sitting on a sucker at the State Department. Show me at least one real good deed done by this "fiery fighter"? So far, only empty slogans and jump shoes 5 times a minute are visible. By the way, he used to burn for changes in the Constitution. The only trouble is that if this stupid guy is imprisoned, a smarter and more dangerous bastard will be appointed in his place.
    1. 0
      3 June 2020 16: 27
      Oh how! I already got 10 minuses, but none of the minusers was able to give birth to at least something. Extra evidence that anal didn’t really do anything. laughing
  17. +3
    3 June 2020 07: 36
    Why does the author advertise Navalny. Where is the link to the video? And like a screenshot, you can draw all the talented anything, for example, as Stalin gives Putin a medal.
    1. +2
      3 June 2020 12: 07
      Yes, the article itself is a complete provocation. Looks like they are bombing in the comments. Especially for VO, where most of the articles are on a completely different topic. I would have deleted it completely at the place of administration.
  18. -2
    3 June 2020 07: 38
    What is the veteran talking about? Maybe someone will say, never seen. I sometimes watch some films on chipboard,
    and when advertising I switch to the Internet.
  19. +1
    3 June 2020 07: 41
    . Insult to Art. 5.61 Administrative Code of the Russian Federation
    1. An insult, that is, humiliation of the honor and dignity of another person, expressed in indecent form, shall entail the imposition of an administrative fine .....

    Not quite clear.
    Article 5.61 does not distinguish any categories in any way; it is not clear why the applicant identified the veteran.
    If an insult is an insult for everyone in the video.
    Second, an insult falls into the article in an indecent form.
    I'm not sure that this post can legally be interpreted as an "indecent form".
    Maybe there are lawyers who will clarify?
  20. -3
    3 June 2020 08: 19
    Nothing threatens Navalny. He is a creature of the Kremlin, a provocateur acting as the modern priest of Gapon.
    1. -1
      3 June 2020 09: 38
      Rather, he is modern Yeltsin. He also struggled with privileges.
  21. -3
    3 June 2020 08: 28
    Navalny would have to cleanse his face like a man, Bokkeriya doesn’t save other people's lives all his life, or did you fly into space on Tereshkova’s couch with a 50/50 chance that he’ll come back and hardly anyone went under the bullets. Your liberal-dermocratic squeak will again not be heard by the people. During the period of the crown of the virus, you like cockroaches clogged in the cracks. There you only have a place. You can wet your sofa with anger. With this goodbye.
    1. -3
      3 June 2020 21: 25
      I agree to 50/50. if I will be in deputies with 500k salary and pension. Where to put a signature?
  22. +1
    3 June 2020 08: 35
    Navalny. Secured an "outstanding criminal record" by 2024.)
  23. +2
    3 June 2020 08: 45
    It is not Navalny's post itself that surprises, rather it is his constant opportunity not to go “to cut firewood.” Someone strongly protects Tolik, usually one can sit down for much petty crimes.
    1. +2
      3 June 2020 09: 00
      Someone roofs Tolik

      So is he Valerik? laughing
  24. +3
    3 June 2020 08: 51
    To drag the veterans into disassembly among themselves is disgusting. Fetid and stinking disgust on both sides.
  25. 0
    3 June 2020 09: 11
    The video dated June 2 shows the video broadcast on RT, where different people, including a war veteran, are involved in presenting opinions on amendments to the Constitution. All participants in the video express their support for the changes. In Navalny’s commentary on the video, they are all called "lackeys."


    And what is he wrong about ??
    That Tereshkova, that all those people from the screen who call to "intercede for animals" or "preserve the memory of ancestors" are real lackeys and venal sycophants ..
    Because of such people, then the whole country suffers !!
  26. 0
    3 June 2020 09: 13
    While the EP "rules" in the regions, going to the polls is useless! They will count it right.
    "for violations of electoral legislation in 2018, more than 4000 violations were noted in the presidential elections and on a single voting day, the courts considered 57 criminal and about 2000 administrative cases (a number of criminal cases completed in 2018 related to the elections of previous years). one person did not receive a real term, most got off with suspended sentences or fines, and their amount never exceeded 300 rubles. An absurd situation is created when criminal offenses against electoral rights cost violators less than the protection of these rights by voters on the streets. "
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/articles/2019/09/06/810622-kak-nakazivayut-za-vbrosi-na-viborah
    Winners are not judged !? Boycott the election !!!!
    1. 0
      3 June 2020 15: 13
      Other parties will come to the EP place in the regions - everything will be the same, it’s just that people on the ground for the most part do not want to work, but locals with their way of life have measured for the most part, we all live on the drum in the rubbish dump and shit - we will continue to live in the rubbish dump and shit and take the same responsibility, why not create a haemorrhage for yourself, and you can change signs a hundred times and things will slip on.
  27. +3
    3 June 2020 09: 15
    I am interested in the different attitude of the authorities towards the shaman Gabyshev and Navalny. One was harshly sent to a psychiatric hospital in essence for intentions, there was no action yet, and everything was getting away with Navalny, apparently Putin’s work suits him, but Gabyshev is dangerous.
    1. +2
      3 June 2020 09: 30
      Navalny works for Putin. No one has done so much to break up and discretize the opposition as Navalny.
      1. -2
        3 June 2020 22: 49
        What nonsense they write here about Navalny. Here is a "doc" from Wikipedia:
        On February 23, 2016, the European Court of Human Rights issued a decision in which it recognized that during the consideration of the Kirovles case in 2013, Navalny and Ofitserov’s rights to a fair trial and to punishment exclusively on the basis of the law were violated. At the same time, the ECHR did not recognize the case as politically motivated, as Navalny’s lawyers demanded [4]. The court found that Navalny and Ofitserov were tried for acts that cannot be distinguished from ordinary business activities and ordered Russia to pay them 8 euros each in respect of non-pecuniary damage and about 71 euros for legal costs (for Navalny a little more than 48 euros, and Ofitserov - almost 23 thousand euros)
        1. +1
          4 June 2020 09: 18
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          Here is the "doc" from Wikipedia
          - Wikipedia is TRUE.
          The same Europe gave the Nobel Prize to Alekseevich.
          The same Europe unleashed two World Wars and set Hitler on the USSR.
          Europe will do everything so that the Russians do not interfere with their profits.
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          However, the ECHR did not recognize the case as politically motivated,
          Decisions of the ECHR itself are politically motivated.))))
  28. -4
    3 June 2020 09: 18
    And what such a nashol in changes in the constitution did this liberal scoundrel let him specifically indicate that he didn’t like which particular point than what to carry his propaganda bullshit about? And since all changes are made democratically, you can vote openly, and veterans understand which point they liked. Veterans for forbidding kamuto to give away Russian territories for which by the way they poured their blood, and not this cock fucking other countries. In addition, I propose to equate the liberals with the Nazis for the genocide of the Russian people in the nineties. And in general, this clown is better somewhere in Bandera or in the Baltic
    human rights activities engaged there continuously and a number of human rights are violated.
  29. +3
    3 June 2020 09: 28
    You see ... Even though you make amendments, at least you don’t make them - this is still the same Constitution of 93, which the drunken geek rolled out on tanks and about which Boerbulis said: "Well, yes, we dragged it through the ass." And bulk of all stripes exist only thanks to this constitution, and no amendments can correct this.
    1. -1
      3 June 2020 09: 46
      Well do not tell. This is now talking about alleged amendments. And over time, they will begin to talk about the most democratic Putin’s constitution.
    2. 0
      3 June 2020 10: 29
      And bulk of all stripes exist only thanks to this constitution

      Well, at least something in this constitution is not with a minus sign ..
      For Navalny certainly didn’t harm the country .. and certainly not in such numbers as those against whom he speaks ..
  30. -2
    3 June 2020 09: 28
    hohlyatskaya, rope and the bar your reward
    changes in the constitution support !!!
  31. -5
    3 June 2020 09: 29
    Funny opponents of the Constitution)))) Putin gave you Crimea (After Crimea, you had to write in the Constitution, Putin has a life president)))), he did not give the Kuril Islands. Guardianship will begin to demolish which deprived the family of children. Pension deprived our generation of traitors-destroyers of the USSR, we deserve it.
    Do you do the same in life? First, demolish the house, then you start to think where do you live?
    Your claims to Putin are petty quibbles like: "Why did Pu give 10t.r. to 16 years old, but should have to 18, 35, 40, 60. In short, why gave the children money, but I didn't?"
    I received money for the youngest on the 1st day at 9 am, as Putin promised, contrary to all officials.
    1. 0
      3 June 2020 10: 33
      Putin gave you Crimea


      I traveled to Crimea in 2012 .. and in 2017 ..
      Of the differences - doubled prices ..
      So let’s better Putin will give my Voronezh to anyone .. if at the same time the prices are halved, all citizens will be happy ..

      Pension deprived our generation of traitors-destroyers of the USSR, we deserve it.

      That's about these and it was said-lackeys .. Slave essence in their blood is ineradicable .. just right to think about the sterilization of such creatures ..
      1. -3
        3 June 2020 10: 37
        Quote: Roman123567
        That's about these and it was said-lackeys .. Slave essence in their blood is ineradicable .. just right to think about the sterilization of such creatures ..

        What barricades did you fight against the corruption of the USSR? Living on a USSR passport and not paying for housing and communal services is not a fight.)))
        So let Putin better give my Voronezh to anyone ..
        I will quote one author on VO "It was said about such people - lackeys .. The slave essence in their blood is ineradicable .. just right to think about the sterilization of such creatures .."
        You have a split brain.))))
        1. -1
          3 June 2020 10: 53
          What barricades did you fight against the corruption of the USSR? Living on a USSR passport and not paying for housing and communal services is not a fight.)))
          That is, I also had to fight with you ?? You will go, putting your back under the whip, saying "we deserve it." .. and I have to fight ?? Doctors must fight with this.

          You have a split brain.))))
          Is it really that I took your brain ??

          Because for what other reason then you don’t understand - what is important for people how to live .. and not how to be called .. Living well / better is the right and natural desire of a healthy person !!
          And to live with the words that we deserve the deprivation of pensions .. but Urya - our everything - this is slavery ..
          1. -1
            3 June 2020 11: 04
            And to live with the words that we deserve the deprivation of pensions ..
            What do we deserve?
            Living well / better is the right and natural desire of a healthy person !!
            - work well / who will be better? Fools like Korchagin?
            And to live with the words that we deserve the deprivation of pensions .. but Urya - our everything - this is slavery ..
            - Begging for a ration instead of valiant free work for the good of the motherland is the position of a slave.
            That is, I also had to fight with you ??
            You decide you are for capitalism or a scoop. In capitalism, pensions and social programs are unnecessary expenses with which the whole West fights and removes.
            1. -1
              3 June 2020 11: 22
              What do we deserve?


              This is you ask this comrade .. with a split of what he does not have ..))

              Quote: hhhhhhh
              Funny opponents of the Constitution)))) Putin gave you Crimea (After Crimea, you had to write in the Constitution, Putin has a life president)))), he did not give the Kuril Islands. Guardianship will begin to demolish which deprived the family of children. Pension deprived our generation of traitors-destroyers of the USSR, we deserve it.


              - work well / who will be better? Fools like Korchagin?
              What does this have to do with whose Crimea or Voronezh ??
              I used the Russian language to explain the example of the delusional phrase that Putin gave us Crimea .. And I chewed that it’s important not to be called, but how to live !!

              - Begging for a ration instead of valiant free work for the good of the motherland is the position of a slave.
              Don’t beg for it .. Since you think you deserve to be deprived of your pensions - why do you need rations too .. They don’t let you die of hunger - there’s already a reason to shout - Glory to Putin ..

              You decide you are for capitalism or a scoop. In capitalism, pensions and social programs are unnecessary expenses with which the whole West fights and removes.
              It’s you determined, I haven’t advocated capitalism and Putinism anywhere ..
              1. -2
                3 June 2020 11: 29
                About retirement, I did not deserve it, not in relation to Putin, but a reward to us for the collapse of the USSR. We are partners. Unless, of course, you go into economic details, that there is one worker for three pensioners, and a funded pension cannot be saved.

                Putin gave us the Crimea ..
                This is a series of Russian people contrary to Stalin won.))))

                And he chewed - what is important is not how to be called, but how to live !!
                Living well as Americans? I do not care who they kill around the world and ruin, most importantly my 250kg of live weight.)))
                1. +2
                  3 June 2020 11: 37
                  About retirement, I did not deserve it, not in relation to Putin, but a reward to us for the collapse of the USSR.

                  Therefore I answered you:

                  That's about these and it was said-lackeys .. Slave essence in their blood is ineradicable .. just right to think about the sterilization of such creatures ..
                  You will go, putting your back under the whip, saying "we deserve it." .. This is what doctors must fight ..


                  not tied to Putin
                  It seems to be like Putin didn’t take away pensions from people ..)) You still remember Stalin, and blame him for this .. and Putin was praised ..

                  This is a series of Russian people contrary to Stalin won.))))
                  In the elderberry garden ..
                  You really have what fragments of thoughts flash in your head ..


                  Living well as Americans? I do not care who they kill around the world and ruin, most importantly my 250kg of live weight.)))
                  You can live badly, like the Somalis .. (well, the slave essence is still rushing ..))
                  And you can worry about all those killed or spit on them from anywhere in the world ..
                  Again, this does not depend on whose Crimea or Voronezh ..
                  1. -1
                    3 June 2020 11: 56
                    You are ridiculous.)))))) Putin personally took away pensions? But maternal capital gave.
                    Are you from Ukraine? You are so worried about the "slave entity".
                    Whose lackey are you? Are you right or left? For capitalism or socialism? Orthodox or Catholics?
                    I am a servant of God. Russian from the USSR. For a new economy with elements of socialism. Without capitalist twists, competition, market freedom, and other stuff.)))
                    1. -3
                      3 June 2020 12: 19
                      You are ridiculous.)))))) Putin personally took away pensions?

                      No, of course .. I sent Bulk instead of myself ..
                      Because here Navalny is bad, and Putin is good ..
                      I'm funny, and you're smart ..
                      So it was ..))

                      Are you from Ukraine? You are so worried about the "slave entity".

                      If I were from Ukraine, your slave essence would not bother me ..
                      But, as you yourself have noted, I wrote above that from Voronezh .. and I like scumbags just scare me ..
                      For once they went for a chewing gum and jeans .. As a result, the whole country was ogrebla !!
                      Now, due to several of the same corrupt creatures that glare at us from the screen, everyone will suffer again !!

                      I am a servant of God. Russian from the USSR. For a new economy with elements of socialism. Without capitalist twists, competition, market freedom, and other stuff.)))


                      Yeah .. and because you are campaigning for Putin ..))
                      Here's how not to be upset here that you have to live in one country .. ((
                      1. 0
                        3 June 2020 12: 26
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Yeah .. and because you are campaigning for Putin ..))

                        I am campaigning against the 1993 Constitution that the Americans wrote to us. Putin is simply following my orders as an elected official.
                        It is necessary to fix in the Constitution - we are no longer slaves of the United States.
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        and I like scumbags just scare me ..

                        I am concerned about the slabs of the 1993 American Constitution. Why do you care about the American Constitution of the Russian Federation?

                        Quote: Roman123567
                        For once they went for a chewing gum and jeans .. As a result, the whole country was ogrebla !!

                        - you basically did not eat sneakers? I say you're funny.)))))
                      2. -4
                        3 June 2020 12: 48
                        I am campaigning against the 1993 Constitution that the Americans wrote to us. Putin just fulfills my orders


                        Fulfills orders, securing his right to rule us to the grave, according to the same Constitution, written by the Americans ..))

                        Why do you care about the American Constitution of the Russian Federation?
                        It’s just parallel to me .. For nothing from it is still not executed !!
                        Nothing will continue to be fulfilled .. Acre that a nullified will become a life-long king ..

                        I say you're funny.)))))
                        From the fact that you are saying this, the fact that I already wrote does not change - once they went out for chewing gum and jeans .. As a result, the whole country was ogrebla !!
                        Now, due to such as the corrupt Tereshkova, and the characters from Navalny’s clip, we will rake again ..
                      3. +2
                        3 June 2020 12: 56
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        It’s just parallel to me .. For nothing from it is still not executed !!

                        How is this not done? Wealth is taken out. The people are poor. Everything is written in the 1993 Constitution. We are ordered to repent for Stalin and the Victory.
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Ogrebla as a result, the whole country !!
                        Why is this threatening us? Maybe you instead of what people laugh books to read?
                      4. -4
                        3 June 2020 13: 06
                        Wealth is taken out. The people are poor. Everything is written in the 1993 Constitution.

                        Wealth and will be exported .. Or, in your opinion, does our government transport timber to China because of the Constitution ??))) And Putin’s oligarchs are buying up houses in London because of the Constitution ?? Putin fought this for 20 years ??))

                        We are ordered to repent for Stalin and the Victory.
                        I don’t know what is ordered to you .. But Putin hides the mausoleum under plywood because of the Constitution ?? And after the amendments will it stop ??

                        Why is this threatening us?
                        The final usurpation of power ..
                        (but for slaves, the concept of "threatening" is not scary)

                        Maybe you instead of what people laugh books to read?

                        I won’t read books to you, and they won’t help you already ..
                        For supporting thieves, while speaking loudly against theft .. then you yourself are either a thief and a populist .. Or an unreasonable slave and lackey ..
                      5. 0
                        3 June 2020 13: 11
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        I won’t read books to you, and they won’t help you already ..

                        You read yourself))))
                        The next morning when Putin leaves happiness will come?
                      6. -3
                        3 June 2020 13: 36
                        The next morning when Putin leaves happiness will come?
                        This cannot be .. any patriot will tell you that Putin is irreplaceable - everything is ours .. And without it the country will fall apart .. and we will all die ..
                      7. 0
                        3 June 2020 13: 42
                        Why do you personally need Putin’s departure? What does it bother you with?
                      8. -3
                        3 June 2020 14: 05
                        Stupid question..
                        What prevents a thief and a swindler in power ?? Yes, and to me personally ??
                        Think yourself and answer yourself ..
                      9. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 11
                        In the US and the EU, a thief in power is not disturbing anyone. Learn to live under capitalism.
                        Why think, I know, under capitalism, there are always thieves and swindlers in power, with no options.
                      10. -2
                        3 June 2020 14: 23
                        Why think, I know, under capitalism, there are always thieves and swindlers in power, with no options.

                        Congratulations!!
                        At least you know something ..
                        But I, too, was not mistaken about your slavish nature .. But you are completely happy with this alignment ..
                        He even bent over for the selected pensions, and said that they themselves were to blame .. and not Putin .. How to warm themselves-let them rob .. and we are ready to endure any robbery, and even blame ourselves on this ..
                      11. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 26
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        and we are ready to endure any robbery, and even to blame ourselves for this ..
                        Are you ready to die for Soviet socialism?
                      12. -2
                        3 June 2020 14: 49
                        Kindergarten, pants on the straps ..))
                      13. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 57
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Kindergarten, pants on the straps ..))

                        So get out of your pants and say clearly, without semolina in your mouth. What do you propose to replace today's capitalism? According to the adult.
  32. +6
    3 June 2020 09: 34
    Quote: Igoresha
    they say. K. Semin, a well-known truth-seeker and denouncer of capitalism, lives in a foreign country, and not in North Korea or Cuba laughing
    Famous truth-seeker Semin was married, and was a correspondent while working in the United States. Now divorced, the son stayed there with his mother! Before quoting someone else's stupidity with a smart look .. I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the question more deeply! And by the way, he himself spoke about this more than once! Go voodyu better listen. your level
  33. +6
    3 June 2020 09: 58
    It is better to declare on Shaposhnikov to the prosecutor's office, he earned 2 billion rubles in a year, well done, he probably earned "honest" work, well, how else, hereditary deputy after all
    1. 0
      3 June 2020 15: 26
      To understand where he got 2 billion drawn - you need the property of relatives to see his business, he copied any of them.
  34. DVR
    +1
    3 June 2020 10: 11
    Unfortunately, everything will come out as usual. Hypanet on the subject and get off with small things, the maximum administrative.
  35. +1
    3 June 2020 10: 15
    Judging by many comments, I had a firm conviction that every second is already bulk in matters of constitutional reform on a military review.
    1. 0
      3 June 2020 10: 35
      Well, in VO there are still too many patriotic dazdraputs ..
      In real life, few would agree with the words of Navalny ..
      1. -1
        3 June 2020 10: 47
        Navalny does not fight corruption. He, as an agent of influence, fights with the country to restore external control in full.
        1. 0
          3 June 2020 11: 28
          He also takes our pensions for himself ..
          Filming on them videos about the houses of Medvedev / Shuvalov and lackeys, who sold for 500 rubles in stories about amendments ..
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    2. -2
      3 June 2020 21: 35
      Well, right. He says business.
  36. -1
    3 June 2020 11: 15
    The authorities did not respond to any investigation by Navalny ... there is nothing to cover ...
    1. -2
      3 June 2020 11: 38
      For a long time this government has not responded to its people anything. It only promises ..
      1. +4
        3 June 2020 12: 13
        For a long time this government has not responded to its people anything. It only promises ..

        You are a liar. The authorities said on June 1 children under 10t.r. .. On June 1, at 9.51 I received 10 tr. at the youngest six.
        You should apologize to the authorities, for a lie.
        1. -4
          3 June 2020 13: 18
          Apologize to Brehl ??)

          Putin has promised at least three times “under no circumstances” to change the Constitution ..
          In 2004, Putin spoke about the Constitution at a meeting with proxies. A transcript of this event is on the Kremlin website. "As soon as we begin to rule the Constitution, this is already the path to some kind of unstable situation. It’s only worth starting - then it won’t stop. Therefore, it’s better not to touch the basic law of the state and work within the framework that those people who worked on this law laid down, ”Putin said then.

          In 2005, Vladimir Putin was asked about possible changes to the Constitution during an interview with Fox News. The President of Russia replied that the invariability of the Constitution is the key to the country's stability.
          “I believe that the most important element in strengthening Russian statehood today is stability. Stability in the country, in society, cannot be ensured in any other way, except by the stability of the legislation and the main law of the country - the Constitution. Therefore, under no circumstances do I intend to change the Constitution ”, - he noted.

          In 2007, the United Kingdom came up with a proposal to amend the Russian Constitution to extradite Andrei Lugovoi, who was suspected of the murder of former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko. This topic was raised at a meeting between Putin and representatives of the country's youth movements. The president was outraged by the British proposal. He said that dozens of people are hiding in London who are wanted by the Russian security forces for committing grave and especially grave crimes, but the local authorities "did not even sneeze and did not think to extradite them."

          “They do not extradite people who are hiding in their territory, including people who are suspected and accused of terrorist activity. And to other countries, including us, they make some kind of increased claims, including give insulting, in my opinion, for our country, for our people advice to change the Constitution. Their brains need to be changed, not our Constitution, brains. And I will say why: because what they offer is the obvious vestiges of colonial thinking. To give such advice is to insult ourselves! ”Putin emphasized.


          But they threw you 10 thousand rubles, and you swallowed it all ..
          (And to that grandfather from Navalny’s video, I think they paid less .. For, the poorer and more stupid people are, the cheaper it is to buy)
          1. +1
            3 June 2020 13: 28
            Quote: Roman123567
            Apologize to Brehl ??)

            You are also a boor. You said nothing and never, but you are not. Change the wording to "not always".

            Quote: Roman123567
            But they threw you 10 thousand rubles, and you swallowed it all ..

            This money was given to my child for the fact that he does not go to kindergarten. Compensation for non-pecuniary damage. He will not vote for this Constitution.
            How did you vote for the 1993 Constitution?

            Quote: Roman123567
            Putin has promised at least three times “under no circumstances” to change the Constitution ..
            Times change. Do you always keep your word? Bulk never lies? Navalny promised shkolota 20t. Bucks for the assault on the Kremlin, and even did not send lawyers.)))))
            Do not try to demand holiness from Pu.
            1. -6
              3 June 2020 13: 45
              You are also a boor. You said nothing and never, but you are not. Change the wording to "not always".
              I always call a spade a spade ..
              Even if this handout, for which you are now selling your vote, is pleasant to you ..

              This money was given to my child for the fact that he does not go to kindergarten.
              Yes, yes .. they gave the child straight ..)))

              He will not vote for this Constitution.
              But you will vote ..
              God forbid that he grows smarter, and did not vote for such a scam when his time comes ..

              Times change. Do you always keep your word? Bulk never lies?
              blah blah blah..
              That is, it is possible according to this logic to lash as much as you like, and anything ??
              I always keep my word .. especially if I give this word THREE !!
              Despite the fact that I am far from the president, and my word does not initially carry such significance .. for the fate of MILLIONS of people who trust me in their lives does not depend on my words ..

              And when they BREST three times about the constitution ..
              Repeatedly BRING about retirement age ..
              Insolently BRING that they will not cling to power ..
              And after they say that the second hand has stepped, and times have changed .. it's all a scam of suckers, and the like, which all this organized crime group was doing before it got into power ..
              1. 0
                3 June 2020 13: 49
                Again you are a liar. I am for not after 10 tr The child will receive of course.
                You lie in each of your posts, and Putin must be a saint.
                Why are you lying?
                Where is the answer about your vote for the American constitution of the Russian Federation?
                1. -3
                  3 June 2020 14: 01
                  I already told you about the American constitution .. according to which Putin is going to continue to rule us up to the grave, exporting resources abroad, and hiding the Mausoleum behind plywood, PR at the same time three times a year in parades in honor of past victories ..
                  And about Putin’s nonsense he painted more than in detail ..
                  You can cover his nonsense as much as you like with the words that he is not a saint .. but his words from this all the same will not become less insidious ..
                  1. -1
                    3 June 2020 14: 09
                    I'm talking about your nonsense. You yourself first begin to tell the truth, and not multiply nonsense.

                    Where are your notices for nonsense about me. About corruption for children's money. Start telling the truth small
                    1. -3
                      3 June 2020 14: 26
                      I repeat once again - a man who says that it is not Putin who is to blame for the abolition of the pension, but he himself - the very last slave and lackey .. And no one needs to apologize for this .. because it's true ..))

                      But the truth is small - here it is:

                      Putin has promised at least three times “under no circumstances” to change the Constitution ..
                      In 2004, Putin spoke about the Constitution at a meeting with proxies. A transcript of this event is on the Kremlin website. “As soon as we begin to rule the Constitution, this is the path to some kind of unstable situation. It’s only worth starting - then it won’t stop. Therefore, it’s better not to touch the basic law of the state and work within the framework that those people who worked on this law laid down, ”Putin said then.

                      In 2005, Vladimir Putin was asked about possible changes to the Constitution during an interview with Fox News. The President of Russia replied that the invariability of the Constitution is the key to the country's stability.
                      “I believe that the most important element in strengthening Russian statehood today is stability. Stability in the country, in society, cannot be ensured in any other way, except by the stability of the legislation and the country's main law - the Constitution. Therefore, under no circumstances do I intend to change the Constitution, ”he said.

                      In 2007, the United Kingdom came up with a proposal to amend the Russian Constitution to extradite Andrei Lugovoi, who was suspected of the murder of former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko. This topic was raised at a meeting between Putin and representatives of the country's youth movements. The president was outraged by the British proposal. He said that dozens of people are hiding in London who are wanted by the Russian security forces for committing grave and especially grave crimes, but the local authorities "did not even sneeze and did not think to extradite them."

                      “They do not extradite people who are hiding in their territory, including people who are suspected and accused of terrorist activity. And to other countries, including us, they make some kind of increased claims, including giving offensive, in my opinion, for our country, for our people advice to change the Constitution. They need to change their brains, not our Constitution, brains. And I will say why: because what they offer is the obvious vestiges of colonial thinking. To give such advice is to insult ourselves! ”Putin emphasized.


                      But they threw you 10 thousand rubles, and you swallowed it all ..
                      (And to that grandfather from Navalny’s video, I think they paid less .. For, the poorer and more stupid people are, the cheaper it is to buy)

                      1. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 33
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        “They do not extradite people who are hiding in their territory, including people who are suspected and accused of terrorist activity. And to other countries, including us, they make some kind of increased claims, including giving offensive, in my opinion, for our country, for our people advice to change the Constitution. They need to change their brains, not our Constitution, brains. And I will say why: because what they offer is the obvious vestiges of colonial thinking. To give such advice is to insult ourselves! ”Putin emphasized.

                        Where did Putin swear never to change the Constitution of the Russian Federation? It is said here that they will not change for the sake of Great Britain.
                      2. -3
                        3 June 2020 14: 40
                        For the blind, I will write a third time .. and highlight fatter ..))


                        Putin has promised at least three times “under no circumstances” to change the Constitution ..

                        In 2004, Putin spoke about the Constitution at a meeting with proxies. A transcript of this event is on the Kremlin website. “As soon as we begin to rule the Constitution, this is the path to some kind of unstable situation. It’s only worth starting - then it won’t stop. Therefore, it’s better not to touch the basic law of the state and work within the framework that those people who worked on this law laid down, ”Putin said then.

                        In 2005, Vladimir Putin was asked about possible changes to the Constitution during an interview with Fox News. The President of Russia replied that the invariability of the Constitution is the key to the country's stability.
                        “I believe that the most important element in strengthening Russian statehood today is stability. Stability in the country, in society, cannot be ensured in any other way, except by the stability of the legislation and the main law of the country - the Constitution. Therefore, under no circumstances do I intend to change the Constitution, ” - he noted.

                        In 2007, the United Kingdom came up with a proposal to amend the Russian Constitution to extradite Andrei Lugovoi, who was suspected of the murder of former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko. This topic was raised at a meeting between Putin and representatives of the country's youth movements. The president was outraged by the British proposal. He said that dozens of people are hiding in London who are wanted by the Russian security forces for committing grave and especially grave crimes, but the local authorities "did not even sneeze and did not think to extradite them."

                        “They do not extradite people who are hiding in their territory, including people who are suspected and accused of terrorist activity. And to other countries, including us, they make some kind of increased claims, including give offensive, in my opinion, for our country, for our people advice to change the Constitution. They need to change their brains, not our Constitution, brains. And I will say why: because what they offer is the obvious vestiges of colonial thinking. To give such advice is to insult ourselves! ”Putin emphasized.


                        But they threw you 10 thousand rubles, and you swallowed it all ..
                        (And to that grandfather from Navalny’s video, I think they paid less .. For, the poorer and more stupid people are, the cheaper it is to buy)
                      3. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 55
                        If you said in 2004 that you were stopping drinking, would you be sober until the end of your life?
                        In the Yard 2020, have you noticed any changes? Refuse your words and start to plump.)))))
                        The world is changing. There is a civil war in the USA.
                      4. -2
                        3 June 2020 14: 38
                        Where have you been lately? In 2008 there was a speech in Munich, but there was a lot more. The world has changed.
                      5. -3
                        3 June 2020 14: 51
                        That is, you can first promise and promise one thing .. Then make a speech somewhere .. And then start doing the exact opposite ??
                        "much more" A weighty argument in defense of the fact that Putin is not bullshit ..))
                      6. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 59
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        That is, you can first promise and promise one thing .. Then make a speech somewhere .. And then start doing the exact opposite ??

                        Are you serious?????? This is politics. In different places to say different things.)))) Where do you get such naive?
                      7. -3
                        3 June 2020 15: 03
                        What is the policy - to promise the people not to abolish pensions - then pick them up ..
                        Promise not to change the constitution - then change ..
                        Promise not to cling to power - then cling ..
                        These are exclusively pre-election slogans for domestic consumption .. lousy in different places different things-this is a divorce of suckers .. Naive suckers ..
                        And where you grow these - you know better ..
                      8. 0
                        3 June 2020 15: 08
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        lousy in different places different things-this is a divorce of suckers ..

                        ))) This is politics. Where on Earth do politicians keep their word and do what they promise? 30 years have passed, but naive scoops who believe in the Pravda newspaper remained))))
                      9. -4
                        3 June 2020 15: 25
                        This is politics.

                        Yes, at least religion ..
                        It doesn't stop being bullshit ..

                        Naive scoops are those who are now shouting approval for amendments to the constitution .. although he himself immediately writes that all these are just promises that no one will keep ..
                        K-clinic ..))
                      10. -1
                        3 June 2020 15: 30
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Naive scoops are those

                        It's you. Read books, you may have time to grow wiser before you die.
                      11. -3
                        3 June 2020 15: 37
                        With regards to books .. certainly not to argue with your level of development and logic ..))

                        For
                        shouting approval for amendments to the constitution .. and immediately write that all these are just promises that no one will keep ..

                        It certainly wasn’t about me ..))
                      12. 0
                        3 June 2020 15: 46
                        Have you read the Constitution how many times?
                      13. -2
                        3 June 2020 15: 52
                        Enough time to understand - this is not there ..))
                        Wealth is taken out. The people are poor. Everything is written in the 1993 Constitution. We are ordered to repent for Stalin and the Victory.


                        But Putin perfectly copes with all this ..))
                      14. +3
                        3 June 2020 15: 56
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        But Putin perfectly copes with all this ..))

                        Putin is to blame for everything. ))) Go find work.))))
                    2. -3
                      3 June 2020 14: 30
                      Threat .. and do not forget to apologize for your nonsense about the fact that Stalin’s power does not respect, and is robbing the country from the fact that the Constitution is to blame for this ..))

                      Wealth is taken out. The people are poor. Everything is written in the 1993 Constitution. We are ordered to repent for Stalin and the Victory.
                      1. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 36
                        Р
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Threat .. and do not forget to apologize for your nonsense about the fact that Stalin’s power does not respect, and is robbing the country from the fact that the Constitution is to blame for this ..))
                        The authorities allow with portraits of Stalin to walk the streets?
                      2. -3
                        3 June 2020 14: 42
                        Well permits .. And what's next ??)
                        And even if she didn’t allow it. And what if the Constitution would be ??
                        The power itself decides - whom to respect, who is not .. and the power itself decides - to plunder the country and resources - or not to plunder .. The Constitution does not oblige them to withdraw billions abroad ..))
                      3. 0
                        3 June 2020 14: 56
                        You go for a walk through the streets and find out if Stalin’s authority is allowed or not.
                      4. -2
                        3 June 2020 15: 06
                        Firstly, it permits .. Why should I go for a walk if I go by a poster with Stalin twice a day .. You would at least google it yourself before carrying nonsense ..
                        http://www.rewizor.ru/news/voronej-poklonilsya-stalinu/

                        Secondly - this is irrelevant ..
                        For:
                        And then the Constitution would be ??
                        The power itself decides - whom to respect, who is not .. and the power itself decides - to plunder the country and resources - or not to plunder .. The Constitution does not oblige them to withdraw billions abroad ..))
                      5. 0
                        3 June 2020 15: 12
                        Video from last year’s Immortal Regiment staged lies?
                        Are you for the Constitution of 1937, 1977, 1993 and 2020?
                      6. -4
                        3 June 2020 15: 21
                        Video about flashes is not the sun a lie ?? Are you for Alexander the Great or the Pope ??

                        Don’t talk to me with your tricks ..
                        The question was simple ..

                        And where is the Constitution ??
                        The power itself decides - whom to respect, who is not .. and the power itself decides - to plunder the country and resources - or not to plunder .. The Constitution does not oblige them to withdraw billions abroad ..))
                      7. +2
                        3 June 2020 15: 29
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        And where is the Constitution ??

                        The topic of the article.
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        The power itself decides - whom to respect, who is not .. and the power itself decides - to plunder the country and resources - or not to plunder .. The Constitution does not oblige them to withdraw billions abroad ..))
                        Power in 1991 gave power to the Americans to plunder ... Since then, our power has been subordinated to those there. Putin is trying to bring power back to the country. He returned part of the power.
                      8. -2
                        3 June 2020 15: 43
                        The topic of the article.

                        Wonderful .. even remember the topic .. And now the question !!
                        And where is the Constitution ??

                        Since then, our power has been subordinated there. Putin is trying to bring power back to the country. He returned part of the power.
                        That is, to close the mausoleum with plywood, to ban Stalin’s posters (as you wrote), to take out the loot and resources abroad, to take away the already impoverished pensions from the people — isn’t Putin doing that, but is the American Constitution forcing him ??

                        About how really almighty and sovereign Putin, having seized all spheres of power without exception, is trying to return power even more .. this is only a psychiatrist can call the right word ..

                        PS .. but you are not Julia .. we all the same with you this issue to the end we will solve ..))
                      9. -2
                        3 June 2020 15: 50
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        sovereign Putin, seizing all spheres of power without exception

                        Why is the Central Bank subordinate to the IMF and not to Putin? You said all areas obey Putin

                        You are already weighed and measured. You are not interested.
                      10. -1
                        3 June 2020 15: 56
                        Who took away pensions from people ?? Resources who export from the country ?? Money offshore and home in London - who is this ?? Central Bank or IMF ??
                        And what of this will be changed in the amendments ??)

                        You are not interested.
                        I understand that you are not interested when you are poked with a nose into something that you do not like ..
                        Continue to believe in good Putin, who has been fighting for 20 years with the Central Bank and the IMF ..))
                      11. -1
                        3 June 2020 15: 58
                        Believe me, Navalny will lead you to a brighter future.))))) You are still funny scoops))))
    2. 0
      3 June 2020 12: 20
      What for!!! Who is Navalny, why not answer your investigations?
    3. -1
      3 June 2020 21: 37
      By the way, not one official went to court. Because he tells the truth about them
  37. +1
    3 June 2020 12: 11
    There are so many defenders of the 1993 Constitution dictated by an American that you wonder.))))))
    No need to change the 1993 Constitution, leave us as US slaves forever. We liked it when we were robbed.
    1. +3
      3 June 2020 12: 18
      It seems that the underground core of the fifth column is firmly established.
  38. 0
    3 June 2020 13: 30
    Quote: Serg65
    Would you leave Navalny?

    Navalny is certainly not an ideal fighter for freedom and equality, but one must be objective and assess his specific statement. Voting for amendments to the constitution is a rather dirty manipulation from the "guarantor. Against the background of the fact that really important amendments were" wrapped up "by completely illegitimate" representatives of the people, "and the cherry on the cake turned out to be" zero. " There is, however, one nuance, the Kremlin used a similar move in the last elections, when Sobchak ran for president. The figure of Navalny discredits any sensible thought. Personally, I consider him a Kremlin project. Please note that his investigations into the corruption of officials are absolutely transparent, but with This lacks any reaction in the media and the officials themselves. This is a conditional refrex - if the information from Navalny, then it is not worth attention. It is very logical, opponents of the amendments are simply labeled as a supporter of Navalny, and this is already a bad form.
    The fact that voting on amendments is just a one-man show is openly said even by CEC functionaries represented by Panfilova. https://youtu.be/ztnSNQP_3s4
    1. +2
      3 June 2020 14: 01
      and you .... except that the term will be reset to zero more nifig does not interest. here is your essence w ... in bulk players
    2. -3
      3 June 2020 14: 19
      The figure of Navalny will discredit any sound thought. Personally, I consider it a Kremlin project. It is logical that opponents of the amendments simply bear the label of a supporter of Navalny, and this is already a bad tone.


      Here, as it were, the matter is not in Navalny ..
      So you can label anyone ..))
      And for this, Navalny no longer needs to be a Kremlin project ..
      After all, what difference does it make, whose project is it .. and how is your surname - Navalny or avdkrd ..
      It’s enough for any opponent of amendments to hang up the label of the opponent of dazdraputinism, and pretend that this is a bad tone ..
      But for you and I, the real tone from this all the same doesn’t change ..

      It is even easier to look at what is now being labeled "good taste" ??
      On the slogans of protecting the memory of ancestors, veterans, animals, resources, etc.
      All this has nothing to do with reality .. but the "sediment" in people's heads remains ..
      Say - you have to vote ..

      And if it's quite simple - the government just taught the people to everything .. anyone can say anything .. any truth .. and no one cares .. The government is silent and does not make excuses, the people silently watch and swallow .. If tomorrow the UNNIVAL will make an accusation Putin's murders-the authorities will pretend not to notice .. people will suck at the forum, and .. and that's all .. "Usual affairs"
      1. +1
        4 June 2020 09: 24
        I am very critical of Putin and his regime! But to go after Navalny is to replace cow dung with human shit! Lose the sovereignty of the country and statehood in the full sense of the word! Put Russia under the United States, like a litter!
        1. 0
          12 June 2020 10: 08
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          I am very critical of Putin and his regime! But to go after Navalny is to replace cow dung with human shit! Lose the sovereignty of the country and statehood in the full sense of the word! Put Russia under the United States, like a litter!

          Too emotional) Do we have sovereignty? Our monetary authorities are subordinate to the IMF, that is, the economy, which is the goal of any war, has already been surrendered to the enemy. Bulk is neither better nor worse.
  39. -5
    3 June 2020 13: 33
    Judging by the photo - Veteran lives poorly, and why he fits into this power - I personally do not understand ...
    1. +2
      3 June 2020 14: 00
      and according to your amendments there is only one negative, do you think that the European court should decide for us where we are right and where not? how are you tired of ki !!! Now we are watching how Americans disperse such vehicles and then we will apply this knowledge to you
  40. -1
    3 June 2020 13: 51
    Quote: Igoresha
    they say. K. Semin, a well-known truth-seeker and denouncer of capitalism, lives in a foreign country, and not in North Korea or Cuba laughing

    But he does not hide it. He and his wife (ex?) Are in contra.
  41. -1
    3 June 2020 14: 33
    It’s necessary to watch and understand the video, otherwise deputies can also lie
  42. 0
    3 June 2020 14: 37
    335 comments about nits. Uh. While reading your discussions twice went vomiting ....
  43. +3
    3 June 2020 15: 29
    I summarize the comments read.
    Some comrades were very excited. Not everything should be taken to heart, criticizing power. Democracy is a form of government in which it is easy to intervene in the internal affairs of our country through the so-called civil society.
    Maybe you don’t need to participate in this political Olympiad at all. Anyway, the victory will go to the financial elite. First homegrown top, and then they will sell their prizes overseas to another financial top.
    Summer is coming soon in Moscow. Take care of yourself.
  44. +2
    3 June 2020 16: 45
    Pile on Navalny and send him to cut down his hotly "beloved" Vyatka forest ... until the debts are paid ..
    1. -4
      3 June 2020 18: 09
      Why? Is it a shame for Putin's propaganda? Or, just, moral?
      1. 0
        5 June 2020 13: 34
        Yes, no, just some of his tricks suffered ... It's a shame, however
  45. -1
    3 June 2020 17: 05
    Virus of the Russian Empire

    Generation of robbers
    Razdonbassilo half of Europe,
    To the elusive avengers
    Serfs grew now
    The headed, the wretched,
    With indexes for the belly,
    So that the bar is not angry, strict -
    Deprived of fortitude
    Knee-deep, servile,
    Semi-literate cripples.
    Eh, you are great people ...
    Well you used to be humans!

    Felix Chuykov

    11 March 2020 year


    Hello mother! We are like everyone

    Sold for banknotes
    Cavaliers of the Order of Cloach,
    Memory with a party card separated
    And the children were taught the same thing.

    Felix Chuykov

    07 May 2020 years


    According to conscience

    Why has the heroic people been unhappy lately?
    Because the tricolor is not involved in the Victory.

    Felix Chuykov

    01 June 2020 year
  46. -6
    3 June 2020 17: 37
    They love us to give out eternal indulgence! Since the hero is an astronaut, then he / she is not capable of meanness. Once a veteran, then it can’t be corrupt.
    What nonsense!
    Everyone has their own benefits at a certain moment, regardless of previous merits.
  47. -3
    3 June 2020 18: 04
    Quote: RUSS
    At a press conference, Putin was asked about his daughters, he did not confirm that it was his daughters. The question was that his children are doing business and very successfully


    Well, especially against the background of the fact that both Obama and Trump did not hide their children and did not renounce them, there are two options:

    1. Our special services are weaker than the American ones and cannot provide first-person relatives with protection and security without total conspiracy.
    2. Putin’s daughters are heading such obviously sawn businesses that they need to be hidden.
  48. -3
    3 June 2020 18: 06
    Shit, this craft ...
  49. +3
    3 June 2020 18: 29
    and after all, many people sincerely regard Navalny as a kind of truth-cutter, honest, decent, etc. Oh, m ...
  50. -3
    3 June 2020 21: 16
    I can say that now youth, especially technical specialists, actively support the bulk. It’s funny to hear about the executions, who will do the rifles for you, the arrows.
  51. 0
    4 June 2020 08: 43
    Someday Navalny will die just like Nemtsov. One hundred percent.
  52. 0
    4 June 2020 09: 34
    No, not shameful, but before you punish, you need to prove ... is not it?

    It's easy to prove, but no one wants to. You count the expenses and income of an official and his family for the year. 85% can already sit. And then it’s more complicated, payments go through hangers-on.
  53. +1
    4 June 2020 11: 34
    Navalny is scum and ok.
  54. 0
    4 June 2020 11: 53
    All these amendments are nonsense. Return the Soviet Constitution, everything is spelled out there. As for zeroing, don’t vote for it. Nobody is forcing you.
  55. 0
    4 June 2020 13: 42
    Well, when will this freak be removed somewhere far away and forever?
    1. -1
      4 June 2020 15: 37
      Don't worry, he will become president again.
  56. 0
    4 June 2020 18: 16
    Quote: 30 vis
    Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
    Big to see the bank was that ruined the whole country? And they continue to fall apart! The remnants of industry are reaching and pipes from the country are being pulled! And all because of some cookies! Why are they so hungry then?

    Yes, because the former .part. activists are sick with wolf hunger ... They will eat until they burst ... All of these Poroshenko, Yeltsins, Gorbachevs, Kravchuk and their offspring, sons-in-law and daughter-in-law, as well as henchmen and slime bastards. Communist gobbling ..... breaking into the body of the USSR ..

    Golytba. Keyword. Next is the aristocracy, sitting on the neck of the country.
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    4 June 2020 23: 10
    We need to find Navalny and interrogate him. Perhaps the account is fake or hacked... Otherwise, this is utter stupidity, why would he shoot like that??