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Russian Buk air defense systems will protect Haftar airbase from Turkish F-16s

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Russian Buk air defense systems will protect Haftar airbase from Turkish F-16s

Al-Jufrah's Libyan National Army (LNA) airbase is currently being strengthened by Russian-made Buk systems, which were previously brought into a war-torn country.


The Buk medium-range anti-aircraft missile systems (M1-2 or M2) are being transferred to the Al-Jufra air base to protect it from air strikes by Turkish F-16 fighters! There are still based several systems "Shell-C1E" of the UAE army

- said military expert Babak Tagway on Tuesday.

According to the publication Defenseworld.net, it is not yet clear who sent the Buk systems to the Libyan air base. According to him, last week the Pentagon accused Russia of sending at least 14 fighters (MiG-29, Su-35) to Libya to help PMCs.

Against this background, Turkey, supporting opponents of the LNA, sent a C-16 Hercules transport aircraft, accompanied by F-130 fighters, transporting mercenaries to fight the forces of Khalifa Haftar.

Apparently, the experience of the combat use of the short-range shell "Shell" in Libya demonstrated the need to operate the complex together with more long-range products. Without them, the chance of hitting the system increases significantly. The “shell” of the “Shell” will become the “Buk”, at least within the framework of the objective air defense.
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  1. Hto tama
    Hto tama 3 June 2020 05: 48 New
    20
    It is a pity that under the guise of protests in mattresses, the Clintons will not bang am how did this louse larva writhe in ecstasy when they killed Gaddafi angry
    1. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP 3 June 2020 05: 52 New
      +1
      lice larva

      Very well marked .......
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 3 June 2020 06: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Hto tama
      It is a pity that under the guise of protests in the mattress, the Clinton am will not crash, how did this louse larva writh in ecstasy when they killed Gaddafi angry

      I am very sorry, but Gaddafi would be alive if, to put it mildly, MIGs, SU, BUKs and Pantsiri were supplied by the Russian side in time. hi
      1. Hto tama
        Hto tama 3 June 2020 06: 08 New
        +7
        You can’t roll back life, and the presence of iron fobers does not play an important role in decision making hi In my comment, I only regret that not everyone deserves their due No.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 3 June 2020 06: 22 New
          -3
          Quote: Hto tama
          You can’t roll back life, and the presence of iron fobers does not play an important role in decision making

          I agree, only I never cease to "admire" such a "far-sighted" geopolitics, but everything could have been done with someone else's hands and saved allies, besides, Gaddafi warned him and lived in a tent in the Kremlin ...
          1. mitrich
            mitrich 3 June 2020 08: 06 New
            +5
            At the crossing of horses do not change. But he changed the orientation vector. I thought, since I rolled away billions for a downed plane, he is already a friend of Western ghouls. And then they grumbled him. And they were not set up under the slaughter.
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      2. loki565
        loki565 3 June 2020 06: 31 New
        12
        So he was more pro-Western, stopped buying our weapons, began to invest in the European economy, even sponsored an election campaign in France. And how the fried smell immediately Russia help.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 3 June 2020 06: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: loki565
          So he was more pro-Western, stopped buying our weapons,

          I would recommend you to watch Gaddafi’s speeches.
          And the question to you is, what did Gaddafi do in Moscow and who did not deliver the S-300 system to him?
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 3 June 2020 06: 50 New
          +7
          Apparently, the experience of the combat use of the short-range shell "Shell" in Libya demonstrated the need to operate the complex together with more long-range products. Without them, the chance of hitting the system increases significantly. The “shell” of the “Shell” will become the “Buk”, at least within the framework of the objective air defense.


          Finally, after some years there, and irreparable losses, we realized that the air defense should be layered system.

          After all, it is obvious, and for a long time, that the Pantsir air defense system, no matter how good it is,by oneself, effectively fighting fighters equipped with long-range air-to-ground missiles and hordes of UAVs is extremely difficult, and sometimes simply impossible ...
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 3 June 2020 06: 49 New
        -3
        Gaddafi Medvedev passed for a new American iPhone when he guarded Putin's place from 8th to 12th. Really forgotten?
        1. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 3 June 2020 07: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: siberalt
          Gaddafi Medvedev passed for a new American iPhone when he guarded Putin's place from 8th to 12th. Really forgotten?


          Medvedev was not the last resort, and his team did not very much influence such decisions ... after all, there was GDP, members of the Security Council (Patrushev, Bortnikov, Naryshkin, etc.), i.e. there were many people who influenced and influence politics The Russian Federation is much stronger than Medvedev ... therefore throwing all the responsibility on DAM is wrong.
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 3 June 2020 08: 06 New
          +1
          How so interesting it turns out - a little what disgust and dirty trick is happening in the country, is Putin inappropriately out of place here? I didn’t know, didn’t know, didn’t participate?
        3. mitrich
          mitrich 3 June 2020 08: 09 New
          -1
          This clock can only be translated to improve milk yield. What else did he do there, I forgot?
          1. Alf
            Alf 3 June 2020 19: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: mitrich
            This clock can only be translated to improve milk yield. What else did he do there, I forgot?

            Norwegians will thank him until the end of time.
      4. askort154
        askort154 3 June 2020 07: 17 New
        18
        Malyuta .....I'm very sorry, but Gaddafi would be alive if, to put it mildly, MIGs, SU, BUKs and Pantsiri were supplied on time by the Russian side.

        Gaddafi would be alive if Russia at the UN Security Council meeting (March 17, 2011) voted against the introduction of a no-fly zone over Libya, as Lavrov insisted on. But the then president (Medvedev) did not "hear" the Russian Foreign Minister,
        and showed his independence. As a result, Russia "abstained", along with China and Germany. Out of 15 UN Security Council member countries, 5 countries "abstained". Only 6 countries have the right of "veto", including Russia, but she did not use this. And this resolution, in addition to the "no-fly zone", provided for many more provisions, including a ban on the supply of weapons to Libya and the freezing of all its financial assets. Life has shown that Lavrov was far-sighted and right. Before that, Gaddafi threatened to give up the dollar and trade only with Russia, China and India, which served as a "fuse cord" for him and the country. (cons are not mine, I don't use them).hi
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 3 June 2020 07: 20 New
          -3
          Quote: askort154
          Before that, Gaddafi threatened to give up the dollar and trade only with Russia, China and India, which served as a "fuse cord" for him and the country. (cons are not mine, I do not use them) .hi

          This is what I spoke of, hoping that my colleagues are up to date, but it turns out that propaganda has gobbled up many. hi
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 3 June 2020 07: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Malyuta

            This is what I spoke of, hoping that my colleagues are up to date, but it turns out that propaganda has gobbled up many. hi

            To people who have their own view of things, or an opinion different from yours - "propaganda gobbled up the brain"? So go to the Censor, everyone will sing along with you. Why are you rubbing here?" negative
            Or have respect for the interlocutors in the forum
            1. mitrich
              mitrich 3 June 2020 08: 13 New
              0
              And what hang tags? It’s almost not your way, is it that a Ukrainian, a mattress-holder, fell into Sumeria, a tensor? Correctly Malyuta wrote about the gobbled up brain.
              Or supreme.
              1. Mitroha
                Mitroha 3 June 2020 08: 51 New
                +3
                Quote: mitrich
                It’s almost not your way, so a Ukrainian, a mattress-holder, went to Sumer ...

                Notice, not one of these words is in my comment. And in your imagination is. And who hangs up labels?
                1. Alf
                  Alf 3 June 2020 19: 29 New
                  0
                  Quote: mitrich
                  It’s almost not your way, is it that a Ukrainian, a mattress-holder, fell into Sumeria, a tensor?

                  Are these your words?
                  1. Mitroha
                    Mitroha 3 June 2020 19: 39 New
                    0
                    Do you see poorly? The author of the words and the author of the quote in your question
        2. kulinar
          kulinar 3 June 2020 07: 44 New
          +6
          Gaddafi's verdict was the desire to introduce the "golden dinar", as opposed to the dollar.
          Unfortunately, then the situation in Russia was not the best for a tough confrontation between the United States and its minions.
          It’s easy to condemn and label, but to understand the essence of what is happening and make a long-term decision, this must be complete information.
          When did Erdogan suddenly want to acquire Russian air defense systems? When the cock pecked.
          What happened then and why did the pro-Western politician decide to buy weapons from Russia?
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 3 June 2020 13: 26 New
            +1
            Erdogan extended air defense system for the Turkish pipe. Now he practically does not buy gas from our Petersburg friends of Ocean. laughing
        3. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 3 June 2020 14: 33 New
          -1
          Gaddafi would be alive if Russia at the UN Security Council meeting (March 17, 2011) voted against the introduction of a no-fly zone over Libya, as Lavrov insisted on. But the then president (Medvedev) did not "hear" the Russian Foreign Minister,



          The role of personality in history has never been canceled. A little weaker the head of state and all ...
        4. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 3 June 2020 19: 40 New
          0
          Quote: askort154
          Only 6 countries have veto power,

          Sixth name recourse
      5. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 3 June 2020 12: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: Malyuta
        I am very sorry, but Gaddafi would be alive if, to put it mildly, MIGs, SU, BUKs and Pantsiri were supplied by the Russian side in time.

        Moreover, the Russian side was ready to deliver all this. And even negotiated with Libya. But Gaddafi, having promised the golden mountains, was blown away in fact and limited himself to modernizing the junk he already had.
        And it’s not just us who have been so promoted - the French flew by the same way past the money.
      6. T.Henks
        T.Henks 3 June 2020 13: 08 New
        -1
        Who was the president in Russia then? Well, his iPhone is nicer.
      7. private person
        private person 3 June 2020 20: 59 New
        +2
        "would have been delivered on time by the Russian side.

        There was something like a maidan, Gaddafi toppled his own under the strict guidance of puppeteers from across the ocean.
      8. boni592807
        boni592807 5 June 2020 13: 44 New
        0
        And he himself (Gaddafi), first of all, did not believe "friends and partners"
    3. neri73-r
      neri73-r 3 June 2020 12: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: hto tama
      It is a pity that under the guise of protests in mattresses, the Clintons will not bang am how did this louse larva writhe in ecstasy when they killed Gaddafi angry

      Unfortunately, she is only the face of a group of neocons, there are so many.
  2. Break through
    Break through 3 June 2020 05: 54 New
    +2
    Not bad. Another S-300 let the UAE buy Haftaru.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 June 2020 05: 56 New
    10
    Turkey, supporting opponents of the LNA, sent a C-16 Hercules transport aircraft escorted by F-130 fighters
    Turkey is struggling to gain a foothold in Libya. But the American "experience" does not take into account - the militants trained and armed by you and who at first glance are loyal to you one day become uncontrollable and even turn their weapons against you.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 June 2020 06: 03 New
    11
    And Haftar was not defeated? Shattered in half? And the "Shells" burned everything ... and in general. And then there is what a metamorphosis. Air defense is being strengthened! To the defeated and fleeing troops, expensive air defense systems will be greeted laughing
    So, not all? Does the confrontation continue?
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 June 2020 06: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      So, not all? Does the confrontation continue?

      People do not understand sarcasm. I explain. Haftar is a Russian creature, the Turks are fighting for the opposite side. The Turks are not our friends even once ... And when Haftar had problems, the opponents of Russia rejoiced ... at the same time they kicked our air defense. And now, information about the strengthening of air defense. So the Turks did NOT WIN. We look further ...
      1. Hydrogen
        Hydrogen 3 June 2020 07: 17 New
        +5
        From what side is Haftar pro-Russian?
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 3 June 2020 08: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: Hydrogen
          From what side is Haftar pro-Russian?

          Russian and pro-Russian creatures are not the same thing!
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 3 June 2020 12: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Haftar - Russian creature

        Haftar is a creature of the monarchies of the Persian Gulf. The very ones with whom we are conducting a proxy war in Syria.
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Turks are fighting for the opposite side. The Turks are not our friends even once ...

        But the Wahhabis from the Persian Gulf are definitely our best friends. laughing
  5. Hydrogen
    Hydrogen 3 June 2020 06: 27 New
    -17
    If the Turks took on Haftar, they will finish it. Apart from American weapons, Putin will also sell ours to them. The SU-35 will soon be sold, the S-400 is already there, its production technology will also push. I won’t be surprised that the SU-57 will appear in Turkey earlier than with us, but in greater numbers.
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    2. KURT330
      KURT330 3 June 2020 08: 30 New
      -13
      Haftar will be finished off - that's for sure! Many people, sitting at the computer, imagine themselves smarter than the staff strategists. As much as anyone would like, but the Haftar card is broken. 50% of the information leaked to the media consists of disinformation and "checking communications"! One thing is certain, under any circumstances, neither the Libyans nor the Syrians will win. Be it the Haftarites and the Sarajovites, or the Assadites and the opposition.
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 3 June 2020 08: 47 New
      +3
      they have already taken up in Syria and haven’t achieved anything. Do not overestimate Erdogan’s ambitions and real opportunities.
      1. KURT330
        KURT330 3 June 2020 09: 20 New
        -11
        With regard to Syria, Erdogan has met with Putin and there are some aspects that both sides adhere to. There are no meetings and agreements in Libya. Erdogan already sees the real possibilities, this is a separate issue.
    4. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 3 June 2020 09: 09 New
      0
      if you buy, why not sell
  6. Hydrogen
    Hydrogen 3 June 2020 06: 33 New
    -1
    In general, I don’t understand that everyone is so worried about Haftar, a former CIA employee, an ardent supporter of radical Islam, destroyed Libya Gaddafi with his help. His gang is full of Islamists of various stripes.
    1. really
      really 3 June 2020 06: 45 New
      0
      Many do not understand this. They were given a topic and they worry, they will change the bogeyman, and they will change the object of experience.
    2. D16
      D16 3 June 2020 07: 41 New
      +9
      In general, I don’t understand that everyone is so worried about Haftar, a former CIA official, an ardent supporter of radical Islam, destroyed Gaddafi’s Libya with his help.

      Grandfather clearly thought about the past and made conclusions. At least he wants to restore the ruling dynasty of Gaddafi.
      .In his gang, the whole zbrod of Islamists, of various stripes.

      Syrian thugs from idlibshchina who? lol
      Do not be greedy. Buy, already a Russian language textbook. Do not be fooled so mediocre. laughing
      1. Hydrogen
        Hydrogen 3 June 2020 08: 29 New
        -7
        In 87, Gaddafi arrested Haftar, after his release he moved to the United States and for almost 20 years waged a fight with the Gaddafi family, without the help of the CIA. After the overthrow, Gaddafi returned to his homeland, decided to snatch his piece of cake. He needs support, so he poked around everywhere , and visited Russia, offering oil fields, a base in Libya in exchange for arms assistance and the UN. He needs power, not the restoration of the Gaddafi family. Only Putin works only with Erdogan, he’s S-400, SU-35, helicopters They plan to sell, in general, all that we have, then they will sell. If the Turks crush Haftar (which is undoubtedly), then Putin will get a piece of the Libyan pie.
        1. D16
          D16 3 June 2020 11: 06 New
          +4
          I read about Haftar's adventures in his youth.
          Only here Putin is cooperating only with Erdogan, he is S-400, SU-35, they plan to sell helicopters, in general, everything that we have, then he will sell it.

          Russia kills two birds with one stone: earns and makes Turkey an independent, independent country. Erdogan is not eternal, and relations with our military-industrial complex will remain.
          If the Turks hush up Haftara (which is undoubtedly)

          Only in your wet dreams. Nobody is likely to kill anyone, but the Turks from Libya will be torn out.
          then Putin will get a piece of Libyan pie.

          And you just need to steal and share something quietly. lol You fundamentally do not understand the economic tasks of Russia in the most oil-bearing region of the planet. The task is not to squeeze something from the weak and profit from a freebie. This is the lot of Turks and Americans. The problem is that there would be no freebie that arises where there is no strong state. Not for this reason we built so many pipes so that the Turks would rumble with cheap stolen oil. We need a stable, comfortable price for hydrocarbons, not a field or base in Libya.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 3 June 2020 06: 47 New
    +3
    not real air defense ... well, and air attacks are scanty ... Now, whoever has less crooked hands, can he ??? to win.
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 3 June 2020 06: 51 New
    +1
    It’s more correct to prepare to repulse the attack, when they repel, then let's say they defended. That experience of the Shell shows the ambiguous use of air defense forces by Haftar.
    1. KURT330
      KURT330 3 June 2020 08: 43 New
      -9
      There is no reception against scrap if there is no other scrap. They will anger the Turks, they will release a couple of SOMs.
      The Libyan sky is not the sky of Syria and it is not closed to Turkish aviation.
      Turks will soon begin to use AlVatia. And with the capabilities of SOMs, they don’t need to get close at all. Pulnut from far and come! They have something to surprise the public.

      1. really
        really 3 June 2020 09: 16 New
        -1
        Syrian is also not closed, which we all saw, for example, attacks by drones.
        1. KURT330
          KURT330 3 June 2020 09: 23 New
          -8
          In fact, UAVs and aviation are two different things))
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 3 June 2020 09: 33 New
        0
        Quote: KURT330
        They will anger the Turks, they will release a couple of SOMs.

        laughing laughing laughing
  9. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 3 June 2020 08: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Insurgent
    Apparently, the experience of the combat use of the short-range shell "Shell" in Libya demonstrated the need to operate the complex together with more long-range products. Without them, the chance of hitting the system increases significantly. The “shell” of the “Shell” will become the “Buk”, at least within the framework of the objective air defense.


    Finally, after some years there, and irreparable losses, we realized that the air defense should be layered system.
    .

    They still do not understand that only defense (air defense) can always be crushed. We need more cheap and effective shock systems, and air defense only complements them.
  10. nobody111body
    nobody111body 3 June 2020 08: 45 New
    +2
    Well, if in Syria how to knock down racket current and not touch Israeli planes, then of course any air defense will be ineffective; because it’s necessary to fight and not to play war games
  11. Mitroha
    Mitroha 3 June 2020 08: 49 New
    +3
    Quote: mitrich
    It’s almost not your way, so a Ukrainian, a mattress-holder, went to Sumer ...

    Notice, not one of these words is in my comment. Unlike fantasy, you
  12. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. 3 June 2020 09: 46 New
    -4
    The Turks are now gaining experience in a war with regular units (albeit weak), which have both air defense and aviation. We trained on the Kurds, now on the Libyans and Syrians. We have already learned how to use drones. And it turns out that "those who have no analogs" can beat it ... Surely they are experiencing something else. They redeployed their air defense system to cover their bases. Haftar does not try to bomb them
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 June 2020 13: 05 New
    +2
    Buki and Torah must cover the Shell from Turkish drones. When the shells are on the march, they are defenseless and must be reliably covered by beeches.
    But Bukam would not be hindered by covered S-200 or, better, S-300.
    Air defense should be deeply echeloned. fellow
  14. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 3 June 2020 14: 00 New
    0
    "... it is not yet clear who sent the Buk systems to the Libyan airbase." Why is it unclear? It's clear - either Abkhazia or South Ossetia, independent states!
  15. 23424636
    23424636 3 June 2020 22: 08 New
    0
    Quote: hto tama
    It is a pity that under the guise of protests in mattresses, the Clintons will not bang am how did this louse larva writhe in ecstasy when they killed Gaddafi angry

    this woman, along with Soros and Biden, just stands and grows the grains of evil in the form of bills to these unclean chickens of the male sex, who are so delivering the American chicken coop run by their opponents Republicans