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The amount of weapons ordered by Turkey in the Russian Federation amounted to one billion dollars

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Turkey ordered weapons from the Russian Federation totaling one billion dollars. Previously, evidence of the scale of Russian military supplies to Ankara weaponswere not published.


Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation of the Russian Federation Dmitry Shugaev said this in an interview with the Turkish Ecoturk TV channel.

In early May, the Turkish military began operating the S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, the delivery of which was completed last year. In addition to air defense systems, Ankara received Russian military helicopters and some types of land equipment. The issue of purchasing multi-purpose super-maneuverable 4 ++ Su-35 fighters, as well as Turkey’s participation in the production of the S-400, is currently under consideration.

Earlier, the head of Rostec state corporation Sergey Chemezov announced his readiness to deliver Su-35 aircraft to the Turkish military at the air show in the United Arab Emirates. However, there is still no data on the Turkish response to this proposal.

And in September 2019, Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke positively about military-technical cooperation between the two countries, referring to the Russian-Turkish negotiations, which discussed the supply of new promising weapons to Ankara.
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  1. Terenin
    Terenin 2 June 2020 16: 32 New
    +5
    Turkey ordered weapons from the Russian Federation totaling one billion dollars.
    Well, that’s NATO came in handy winked
    1. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 2 June 2020 16: 53 New
      +1
      Good, quality weapons. Let them come more often - we still have it !!
    2. opus
      opus 2 June 2020 17: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Terenin
      Well, that’s NATO came in handy

      or we NATO "came in handy" ...
      1.
      Quote: author
      The amount of weapons ordered by Turkey in the Russian Federation amounted to one billion dollars

      2017 year
      According to Rostec CEO Sergei Chemezov, Turkey is buying four S-400 divisions from Russia for $ 2,5 billion. 55% of the contract amount is Russian loan funds.
      =====================
      it can be assumed that Turkey ordered $ 1 ( and will receive / have already received)
      probably paid $ 450
      DOES PAY - is that the question?
      example:
      The Turkish Stream pipeline, which cost 7 billion euros .... Turkey is sharply cutting its purchases of Russian gas.
      At the end of March, Gazprom’s deliveries to state Botas and independent Turkish operators fell 7 times, to 210 million cubic meters, according to data from the Federal Customs Service published on Tuesday.
      Compared to 2018, the decline was more than 14-fold: then in the first quarter, Turkey acquired 8,8 billion cubic meters (2,93 billion on average per month).
      Once ranked second among Gazprom’s largest customers, Turkey rolled into the top ten, buying almost as much gas as Armenia (193 million cubic meters) and less than, for example, Lithuania (272 million).
      Turkey replaces Russian gas with liquefied gas. According to Platts, in December last year, the state Botas held a tender for the purchase of 30 lots of LNG with delivery until March 2020, and a month earlier - for another 70 lots with shipment in 2020-23.
      Last year, Turkey increased its LNG imports by 13% to 9,1 million tons. The largest suppliers were Algeria (4,3 million tons), Qatar (1,8 million), Nigeria (1,8 million) and the United States.
      
Gazprom's supplies to the Turkish market fell by 35% last year, to 15 billion cubic meters - a minimum of more than 10 years. As a result, Turkish Stream and Blue Stream with a total capacity of 35 billion cubic meters remained half empty. In March, the capacities of two gas pipelines (2,9 billion cubic meters per month) were used by less than 10%.

      2. Something that reminded me of
      Russian state loan in the amount of up to $ 4 billion, which was provided to Caracas back in December 2011 and was intended to finance the supply of Russian military products to Venezuela. At the end of 2013, Russian enterprises supplied Venezuela with arms worth $ 2,65 billion, having received the corresponding payment from the state loan. By April 2015, the Russian Ministry of Finance had transferred another $ 962 million to Venezuela, according to the State Duma, which in 2015 considered amendments to the original agreement. Thus, Venezuela used at least $ 3,6 billion of the total loan to purchase Russian products.

      2017 year

      Moscow agreed to restructure Venezuelan debt of $ 3 billion
      Under the terms of the agreement signed in Moscow, Caracas, owed Russia more than $ 3 billion, received installments until 2027.
      until 2027 .... belay

      Nasruddin says that he once argued with the emir of Bukhara that he would teach his donkey theology in such a way that the donkey would know him no worse than the emir himself. It takes a purse of gold and twenty years of time. If he does not fulfill the conditions of the dispute - a head from his shoulders. Nasruddin is not afraid of imminent execution: - “Indeed, in twenty years,” he says, “one of the three of us will surely die - either the emir, or the donkey, or me. And then go figure it out who knew theology better! ”

      / L. V. Solovyova “Troublemaker” Khoja Nasreddin
      Venezuela is a de facto bankrupt country and the richest bankrupt
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 2 June 2020 17: 16 New
        +6
        According to Chemezov ...

        Then already fully describe this event, that ... the conclusion of a contract between Moscow and Ankara (on S-400 supplies) was criticized by NATO, saying that Turkey’s decision would prevent it from becoming part of the alliance’s unified air defense system ...
        1. demo
          demo 2 June 2020 17: 26 New
          +3
          the conclusion of a contract between Moscow and Ankara (on the supply of S-400) was criticized by NATO,

          You know, from criticism, if still healthy, no one was dying.
        2. opus
          opus 2 June 2020 17: 33 New
          -5
          Quote: Terenin
          Then describe this event already

          I write about finance, about a billion., Specifically on the topic of the article. What to describe in full?
          about the difference m / y kusura bakmasınlar and
          the sender expressed his interest in resolving the situation related to the death of the aircraft

          ?
          Quote: Terenin
          that Turkey's decision will prevent it from becoming part of a single system Alliance Air Defense

          don't smack nonsense
          1.In 1953, the 6th NATO combined tactical aviation command was formed with headquarters in Izmir.
          2. Turkey is part of a single NATO air defense system (NICS (NATO Integrated Communication System) with 1974 years

          Air Defense Management Structure includes the NATO Automated Air Defense Management System (NEYJ), whose facilities are located in the territory stretching from northern Norway to eastern Turkey, advanced ground system
          UK Air Defense Authority (AYUKAGE), Portugal's unified air defense management system (POAX) and systems of countries that have recently joined NATO
          .
          + in the troposphere communication system of NATO ACE High in my opinion since 1956

          TP air defense coordination is carried out by two joint air operations centers located in the cities of Eskisehir and Diyarbakir... These centers operate as part of the ACCS - Air Command and Control System (ACCS) of the NATO Air Force and Air Defense in Europe, which is designed to control airspace, alert the NATO command about an air attack and control the combat forces of the alliance's joint air defense system.

          To control the airspace of Turkey, a network of ground stationary and mobile radar control, observation and warning posts with a total number of about 60 units (along the coast and the eastern border of the country) has been deployed in two lines. It provides detection of up to 3 thousand air targets (VTS) simultaneously, including small-sized and low-flying, and 150 of them issue target designation. The posts are equipped with radar stations (radars) of their own production "Kalkan", created under license, MPQ-64 "Sentinel" and TRS-22xx radars, as well as the German-made DR-171/172 (MPDR-90) radar.
          In addition, there are stations RAT-31DW, HR-3000, AN / FPS-117 ...
          Well, at least read here at your leisure:
          Quote: Sergey Linnik
          Prevent the Soviets from breaking through: Turkey's air defense systems during the Cold War

          1. Terenin
            Terenin 2 June 2020 17: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: opus
            don't smack nonsense

            Let it be so, but one "but" winked , I word-for-word supplemented the missing part of the 2017 over-posted info message by you ...
            1. opus
              opus 2 June 2020 18: 05 New
              +6
              Quote: Terenin
              I added the missing part word for word

              You "added" information that does not correspond to reality.
              Proto quoted as pouring from all the irons of Russia
              1. Turkey’s decision will NOT prevent it from becoming part of the alliance’s unified air defense system .. on the grounds that it is already in NATO’s automated air defense control system (NEYJ).
              2.Turkey's decision is just a light blackmail of NATO (Europe mainly and the SA), but at the expense of us.
              3.Turkey's decision is a good chance on the knee to study whether Russia has achieved something on its own in air defense, since the collapse of the USSR or not, again, but at the expense of us.
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 2 June 2020 19: 38 New
                0
                Quote: opus
                3.Turkey's decision is a good chance on the knee to study whether Russia has achieved something on its own in air defense, since the collapse of the USSR or not, again, but at the expense of us.

                I suppose you are right here.
              2. Tusv
                Tusv 2 June 2020 20: 50 New
                -2
                Quote: opus
                3.Turkey's decision is a good chance on the knee to study whether Russia has achieved something on its own in air defense, since the collapse of the USSR or not, again, but at the expense of us.

                But the meaning. Those are well aware of the air defense of the USSR and the air forces today. I will say right away. In terms of the quality of the air defense equipment of the USSR, the modern one loses ten times taking into account the development of technology (This is the middle complex, now it’s near). We made these imperialists by setting up divisions and clearly dividing the functions of our own aviation. Only Jews Learned This
      2. kulinar
        kulinar 2 June 2020 17: 33 New
        -1
        I did not know how to correctly formulate the question.
        You got ahead of me. And asking and answering the question:
        Is it good or bad?
        And at the same time they clarified at whose expense the banquet.
      3. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 2 June 2020 18: 43 New
        +4
        This is such a tricky multi-pathway that the strategist runs the risk of forgetting what Oo was up to
      4. Tusv
        Tusv 2 June 2020 20: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: opus
        DOES PAY - is that the question?

        A small educational program about loans that no one returns. We have capitalism. And money is a commodity. A debt restructuring, in fact, does not allow the debtor to default. They write off the loan to the slave, mainly only the accumulated penalties and fines, and then not willingly. This is actually a cancellation of debt. Because the commodity itself is money or a body of debt, not a single capitalist can write off, unless exchanged for a very decent one, where you can earn even more without straining. For example, an apartment, but at the state level something abruptly hi
  2. credo
    credo 2 June 2020 16: 33 New
    -1
    Now we are waiting for the US reaction to Turkey's purchase of "bad" weapons from a "bad" country.
  3. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 2 June 2020 16: 35 New
    -3
    I am for, firstly, it destroys NATO, and secondly, we must and can get along with the Turks, but with all kinds of "brothers" in this region, as historical experience shows, there are some problems.
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    2. vavilon
      vavilon 2 June 2020 17: 00 New
      +2
      We are pushing away our brothers, and the weapons that we sell will not destroy NATO in any way, but will strengthen them just by one turn, dismantle them by bolts and improve their
    3. Alf
      Alf 2 June 2020 19: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      it’s necessary and possible to get along with the Turks,

      Can there be real examples when RI, the USSR or Russia got along with Turkey?
      1. gabonskijfront
        gabonskijfront 2 June 2020 19: 30 New
        +5
        We got along at the most critical time for us, the Northern War (the Prut world), the era of the Napoleonic Wars, in the finals of the First World War, the entire Second World War, unlike the Balkan brothers, well, the Turkish stream, etc.
        1. Alf
          Alf 2 June 2020 19: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: gabonskijfront
          in the finals of the first world

          In the finale of WW1, both empires lay to their deaths, which is why they got along.
          Quote: gabonskijfront
          the whole second world

          In WW2, the fall of Stalingrad would be a signal for Turkey to enter the war on the Reich side. And if you recall how many of our troops were sitting at the Turkish border ..
          1. gabonskijfront
            gabonskijfront 2 June 2020 19: 44 New
            +4
            I thought so cheap arguments, where are the documents? this is only the opinion of historians. At the border there were 200 thousand, and these were recruits who went to the front
            1. Alf
              Alf 2 June 2020 19: 53 New
              +1
              Quote: gabonskijfront
              where are the documents?

              Sorry, but I don’t have a signature of Glavbasmach Inenu.
              The situation with Turkey became especially tense in the summer of 1942, after the start of the German offensive on Stalingrad and the Caucasus. Mobilization was carried out in Turkey, its armed forces reached a force of 1. [000] With the beginning of the German offensive, about 000 of them were transferred by Turks to the Soviet-Turkish border in the Batumi region. [7] Since July 750, the Turkish army deployed 000 army corps, 45 infantry divisions, of which 1942 divisions arrived during July, 1 cavalry divisions and one motorized rifle brigade against the Soviet Transcaucasian Front (re-formed May 1942, 4). [16] According to other sources, the Turkish group at the border at that time numbered about 7 divisions. [2] At the same time, the number of Soviet troops on the border did not exceed 46 thousand (50 armies), and most of them were infantry divisions. [47] According to the widespread opinion in Soviet historiography, [200] [9] [23] [7] [8] [9] [10] the Turkish government was ready to enter the war on the side of Germany immediately after the fall of Stalingrad. But the ongoing counterattack of the Red Army on the Soviet-German front forced to curtail these plans. [11]

              Quote: gabonskijfront
              they were recruits who went to the front

              The terms "recruits" and "sent to war" are far from the same.
      2. KCA
        KCA 5 June 2020 10: 58 New
        0
        In the 1920s they got along very well, even a monument stands in Voroshilov and Aralov in Ishtambul, and even during the Second World War the Turks, although they were in the Axis, did not fight the USSR
  4. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 2 June 2020 16: 37 New
    -6
    That's just, like the S-400, everything is on credit, i.e. for our money.
  5. Break through
    Break through 2 June 2020 16: 37 New
    -14
    All our equipment is with chips. And at any moment the Turks will stall forever.
  6. Karaul73
    Karaul73 2 June 2020 16: 39 New
    -1
    So Turkey is a partner and a prospective buyer or opponent with oriental cunning, able to stick a knife in the back? It’s time for Putin to decide.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 2 June 2020 21: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Sentry73
      So Turkey is a partner and a prospective buyer or opponent with oriental cunning, able to stick a knife in the back? It’s time for Putin to decide.

      Well Duc Putin has already decided. And you try to fight with oriental cunning against "Russo tourist, appearance of morality" especially when they are not there. О We are tourists doing their politics at times laughing . Well, you can’t forbid us from abroad, we will make Russian and Vietnamese beaches lively. If only service and all inclusive. The cunning of Russians knows no borders. These beaches of Turkey and Egypt have studied in full. bully
  7. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 2 June 2020 16: 42 New
    -3
    They armed China ... now they’ve taken over Turkey ... well, well ... money doesn’t smell? ...
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 3 June 2020 04: 57 New
      0
      everything is done right
  8. vavilon
    vavilon 2 June 2020 16: 45 New
    -7
    Exactly ! the main thing in the oligarchs is money, and then the same weapon will fly in the opposite direction over the heads of our military
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 June 2020 16: 59 New
      +3
      and for a long time we have the oligarchs of the defense industry complex rule?
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      2. vavilon
        vavilon 2 June 2020 17: 07 New
        -8
        the weapon is produced by the plant, the factories are not wholly owned by the state but only a controlling stake (for example 51%), and the remaining shares
        to whom? what do you think?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 2 June 2020 17: 09 New
          0
          and only Rosoboronexport sells. and no one else. the factories cannot sell it themselves. If, for the simple reason, only the state can sell it. owning shares does not mean owning an enterprise. they have a voting right but no right to make decisions.
          1. vavilon
            vavilon 2 June 2020 17: 22 New
            -5
            That's right, right, think, but these plants receive orders from Rosoboronexport and, therefore, profit
          2. Nemchinov Vl
            Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 14: 22 New
            0
            Quote: carstorm 11
            they have a voting right but no right to make decisions.
            formally, but ...?! The head will look where it will turn (head) - neck (!)... if you believe that they can’t DECIDE influence, to make a decision, then perhaps you are engaged in self-deception ... (!)
      3. Gennady Korsunov
        Gennady Korsunov 2 June 2020 17: 22 New
        -3
        And who is Chemezov for you?
        1. vavilon
          vavilon 2 June 2020 18: 27 New
          -4
          he is part of this system that's the whole answer
          And no need to ask provocative questions
      4. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 14: 19 New
        0
        Quote: carstorm 11
        and for a long time we have the oligarchs of the defense industry complex rule?
        those. you assume that the military industrial complex, - Russian patriots rule ?! Development, for example, the Navy (and its systematic nature) ?! Well, if you are her (consistency in approaches to the implementation of shipbuilding programs for the Navy) find /will see, then yes ... ?! Then your defense industry, not the oligarchs rule ... (!)
    2. DVR
      DVR 2 June 2020 17: 47 New
      +2
      Exactly ! the main thing in the oligarchs is money, and then the same weapon will fly in the opposite direction over the heads of our military

      Brilliant logic. In your opinion, is it better if they buy weapons from their Western partners, providing them with profit with all the consequences, and then it flies to the heads of our military? All countries seek to maximize the use of their weapons, even selling on credit. MTC determines the relationship including and at the political level for years to come. That is the US sanctions threatens everyone who buys from us. And only our ingenious analysts say that there is no need to sell.
      1. Alf
        Alf 2 June 2020 19: 21 New
        0
        Quote: DVR
        All countries seek to maximize the use of their weapons, even selling on credit.

        That's just the United States, the main creditor, does not forgive its debts to anyone, and if it forgives, then that country is either falling apart or friends and the Washington regional committee come to manage it. And Russia is a generous soul ....
        1. DVR
          DVR 2 June 2020 20: 07 New
          +1
          And Russia is a generous soul ....

          I would not say that Russia is a generous soul (in the context under discussion). The USSR borrowed and invested a lot and it is not a fact that it was going to forgive many debts. Naturally, all these investments were based on a win (and it would have been very large), but we were beaten. If the United States had lost in the Cold War, there would have been little sense in them "does not forgive" either, no one would have paid debts for decades either. This is what we are now seeing in relation to Russia. The point is to keep, for example, Cuba, already enslaved through our fault, as a successor, with billions of dollars in debt, if it is a priori clear that in the next 100 years it will not be able to give anything back. It is more logical to "forgive" this debt, or rather, to exchange it for certain concessions, thus. to use the seemingly already lost investments of the USSR. Perhaps the Cuban missile crisis will have to be repeated. On the other hand, Russia is already much more selective in lending through military-technical cooperation, and debtors are much more solvent. But everything is primarily determined by geopolitical interests. It is possible not to get another loan from Cuba, but if the United States loses its current status, then the profit for Russia will be calculated in thousands of percent.
          1. Alf
            Alf 2 June 2020 20: 36 New
            -1
            Quote: DVR
            It is more logical to "forgive" this debt, or rather, to exchange it for certain concessions, thus. to use the seemingly already lost investments of the USSR.

            I completely agree with you, if not for one But ... Present-day Russia does not want anything.
            Quote: DVR
            But everything is primarily determined by geopolitical interests.

            Do modern Russia have them?
            Quote: DVR
            You may not get a loan back from Cuba, but if the United States loses its current status, then the profit for Russia will amount to thousands of percent.

            The whole problem is that Putin's Russia, having forgiven debt, releases the debtor country on four sides, not intending to take advantage of it at all.
            1. DVR
              DVR 2 June 2020 20: 50 New
              +2
              I will almost quote myself from a recent commentary: “If the Russian leadership agree to hand over everything, as they have already surrendered before, tomorrow the West will transfer trillions to their personal accounts, and will give all guarantees of immunity. an example of this is still alive, the truth is cheap, he could not assess what he was selling, he probably regrets (maybe he does, I doubt it). "And believe me, in a day all the Western media will admire their genius and sagacity. And then the Western elite will organize in London a celebration of their anniversary (the eightieth anniversary, apparently) and will again admire their wisdom. In the meantime, the count will go on tens of millions of lives ... Our lives. We have already passed this, and the account is tens of millions (and I'm not talking about the Second World War).
              Putin's Russia

              such rhetoric (cliche) suggests that I answer in vain, but suddenly I am mistaken. I'm generally naive)
              1. Alf
                Alf 2 June 2020 20: 54 New
                -3
                Quote: DVR
                such rhetoric (cliche) suggests that I answer in vain, but suddenly I am mistaken.

                Specify specifically, what am I mistaken? The fact that modern Russia has no geopolitical interests at all? Or is it that debts are forgiven, without borrowing anything? In what place began to reckon with Russia in the arena?
                1. DVR
                  DVR 2 June 2020 21: 03 New
                  +3
                  The fact that modern Russia has no geopolitical interests at all?

                  And what is Russia doing in Syria, for example. And this is only a small part. If it is not clear, I will quote myself again, I don’t like to write the same thing many times): “What was happening in the Middle East had to be stopped at all costs. It was definitely a mortal threat to Russia. First Libya, then Egypt with By the "Muslim Brothers" * (fortunately, the Minister of Defense put things in order there in 2013), then Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan. All this would be integrated into a global radical Islamist entity called the "Islamic State" * and moved It would be first to the former Central Asian republics and the Transcaucasus, and then to Russia, where the soil would also have been prepared. Then they would not have got off so easily, and the Chechen wars would seem like a kindergarten. Moreover, such a structure as IS does not care about Russia's nuclear potential. Yes, in general, for this, everything was done, here you need to be blind in order not to understand.
                  Or is it that debts are forgiven, without borrowing anything?

                  Can you justify? Only specifically.
                  In what place did Russia begin to reckon with Russia?

                  See the answer to paragraph 1. If there weren’t Russia in Syria, everything would have been much sadder. But it turns out to be considered. All NATO is considered, that’s how it is.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 2 June 2020 21: 21 New
                    -3
                    Quote: DVR
                    All NATO is considered, that’s how it is.

                    What counts? With nuclear weapons? So it’s easier to buy a country from the inside, which is being done successfully.
                    Quote: DVR
                    And what is Russia doing in Syria, for example.

                    It only does that it wins, under the Farewell of the Slav, it withdraws the troops, so that later it can be reintroduced with creeping order, but without fanfare. And the end and edge of this mouse fuss is not visible, too many countries have interests tied up there.
                    And what about NATO, is it so reminiscent of the epic with statements about Khmeimim in chronological order?
                    1. We will shoot down everything that flies and hit the launch points.
                    2. We will shoot down everything that flies.
                    3. We will shoot down everything that flies to Khmeimim.
                    4. Striking Hmeimim is a tricky plan.
                    So who is considered with whom is a big question.
                    They put the 400s, they said that the sky is locked. How many times have Jews bombarded Assad? Why didn’t they shoot SAM? Piled our scout that the Foreign Ministry and the Defense Ministry answered? That muttered slurred. Are they considered? Well, well .. Whose RUSAL is now? Silently squeezed out and neither the Ministry of Foreign Affairs nor the wisest even made a sound ..
                    Quote: DVR
                    Or is it that debts are forgiven, without borrowing anything?
                    Can you justify? Only specifically.

                    This I asked you a question. What did Russia get by writing off debts to Cuba? Or Iraq? Or to Afghanistan?
                    1. DVR
                      DVR 2 June 2020 21: 50 New
                      +3
                      What counts? With nuclear weapons? So it’s easier to buy a country from the inside, which is being done successfully.

                      Wow, but nuclear weapons are, it’s bad luck. So I wanted from the 91st that there was no nuclear weapons or delivery vehicles, that everything rusted during the crisis, but everything turned out to be there. There is, and at a level unattainable to anyone at the moment. Such a surprise for partners) But it's easier to buy, try.

                      It only does that it wins, under the Farewell of the Slav, it withdraws the troops, so that later it can be reintroduced with creeping order, but without fanfare. And the end and edge of this mouse fuss is not visible, too many countries have interests tied up there.
                      And what about NATO, is it so reminiscent of the epic with statements about Khmeimim in chronological order?
                      1. We will shoot down everything that flies and hit the launch points.
                      2. We will shoot down everything that flies.
                      3. We will shoot down everything that flies to Khmeimim.
                      4. Striking Hmeimim is a tricky plan.
                      So who is considered with whom is a big question.
                      They put the 400s, they said that the sky is locked. How many times have Jews bombarded Assad? Why didn’t they shoot SAM? Piled our scout that the Foreign Ministry and the Defense Ministry answered? That muttered slurred. Are they considered? Well, well .. Whose RUSAL is now? Silently squeezed out and neither the Ministry of Foreign Affairs nor the wisest even made a sound ..

                      It is difficult to comment, treat with understanding. You want to say it would be better if Russia was not in Syria. And what I talked about in a previous comment flew past the brain. No questions.

                      This I asked you a question. What did Russia get by writing off debts to Cuba? Or Iraq? Or to Afghanistan?

                      Cuba - whose ally. Not Colombia, after all. How is it, under the belly of the United States with its inexhaustible resources and finances, and such a splinter in the ass. How so why?

                      quote] similar rhetoric (cliche) suggests that I answer in vain, but suddenly I am mistaken. I'm generally naive)

                      It turned out he was right, "I take my leave." All these cheap manipulations will not impress me, on part of the public - of course, for this you are here.
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                      2. Alf
                        Alf 3 June 2020 19: 11 New
                        0
                        Quote: DVR
                        Cuba - whose ally.

                        Was Soviet, now abandoned by Russia.
                        Quote: DVR
                        It turned out he was right, "I take my leave." All these cheap manipulations won't impress me

                        That's right, there’s nothing to argue with upon the fact, and here we merge.
                      3. DVR
                        DVR 3 June 2020 20: 45 New
                        0
                        Was Soviet, now abandoned by Russia.

                        Well, since you are not appeasing, let's continue :) Don't you understand the meaninglessness of further discussion. Or the principle .., they say, "do not lose face". Maybe the arguments are thrown? It was abandoned by the Union, since he was outplayed at that stage, and Cuba was a loyal ally. And I admire Cuba's courage that they have not yet fallen, like many, under the States, after all that has happened. And there such forces are involved that oh-ho. More than six hundred attempts to assassinate F.A. Castro. Do you think something has changed now? And the string of deaths of the leaders of the states of South America tell you nothing?
                        There are 2 options in this world: you can be either a player (subject), or you can be an ally (as in the case of Russia) or a vassal (or colony) of the player (as in the case of the United States). So who do you think Cuba is an ally (or vassal)? If you think that the United States, then justify. I already wrote to you: "Can you justify? Only specifically." And you merged, did not answer and ask the same question.
                        That's right, there’s nothing to argue with upon the fact, and here we merge.

                        I objected on all points, and you merged, nothing in essence ... Instead of answering the question about the need for Russia's presence in Syria - in response: some kind of folk art. Not a single meaningful answer) Not a word about the essence of things, just a set of stamps. I have been wandering all these chips for a long time, not even eating them, and I smell for a mile away. As I said above, I do not get impressions of these meaningless manipulations.
          2. DVR
            DVR 5 June 2020 15: 11 New
            0
            I completely agree with you, if not for one But ... Present-day Russia does not want anything.

            I see no reason for such statements, although I see things that prove the opposite. I've already written a lot in the answers to similar questions. If today's Russia did not want anything, it would no longer exist. And there would be a dozen or two backward states at war with each other, which our beloved "partners" see in their wet dreams and speak openly about it, they are not even shy.
            Do modern Russia have them?

            Russia, despite everything, is a subject of international relations, of which there are not so many. He is an active player. It was Russia that put an end to the IG * project, which our opponents invested very well in, and which was created to destroy Russia. I do not like to repeat myself, so I will insert an excerpt from the previous comment:
            Russia intercepted the game in the Middle East with a brilliant and timely operation in Syria. Of course, the game was taken into account and our "partners", whose playful little hands showed themselves in addition to Libya, which they destroyed, also in Turkey, Egypt, Algeria, Sudan, Yemen, etc. Plus Afghanistan. Not to mention Iraq, which has eaten to the point of vomiting democracy.
            All these states would already be integrated into a global radical Islamist terrorist super-group, which would instantly gobble up the Caucasus and the former Central Asian republics, and then take over for us. And not the fact that they could have stopped already. And these squeals from the State Department only confirm my conclusions.

            The whole problem is that Putin's Russia, having forgiven debt, releases the debtor country on four sides, not intending to take advantage of it at all.

            An unfounded statement. Something gives you a troll, but I won’t say, maybe you really think so.
        2. Nemchinov Vl
          Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 14: 32 New
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          Quote: DVR
          but if the United States loses its current status, then the profit for Russia will amount to thousands of percent.
          then open a personal account to transfer funds to offended blacks, to "fight against American police brutality" !!! It will be faster... lol
          Quote: DVR
          In your opinion, is it better if they buy weapons from their Western partners, providing them with profit with all the consequences, and then it flies to the heads of our military? All countries seek to maximize the use of their weapons, even selling on credit.
          Apparently I.S. Stalinon the eve of the great patriotic war was not familiar with the course of your thoughtsotherwise, for sure (even on credit), I would sell the KV-1 to the German Wehrmacht, as early as 1940-1941 .... After all, then they (KV-1) became one of the unpleasant surprises for the Germans, in the early years of the war (!) . hi Well, I think so !!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 2 June 2020 16: 46 New
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    Turkey ordered weapons from the Russian Federation totaling one billion dollars.

    The amount is impressive. If only they paid, they bought it on credit.
  • Raven 95
    Raven 95 2 June 2020 16: 54 New
    +4
    The question is where this mountain of weapons will now shoot.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 2 June 2020 17: 09 New
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      The question is where this mountain of weapons will now shoot.


      Weapons have always been made not only for war, but also for sale. Thanks to this, it becomes popular with neighbors, cheap for the manufacturer. It was. That's it. It will be so. Kalashnikovs are made everywhere. They twisted it as best they could. But this Kalashnikov is "forever" Russian. Shilka is everywhere. Old moments are everywhere. Wherever there are hostilities, and not where pussies are measured. As soon as there is a war, Russian weapons from all sides immediately slide down. Well, a few other countries. Even the padded "Pantsir" is shown by the slippers around the cities. Children respect dogs ...
      Therefore, invent, do, sell. Tax pay. Grandmother's pension.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 June 2020 17: 01 New
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    First show the money, maybe they want for free as our friend Luka.
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 2 June 2020 17: 23 New
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    Ankara received Russian military helicopters and some types of land equipment
    helicopters are Ka-32 as many as three, but what kind of land equipment?
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 2 June 2020 17: 34 New
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    Reasonable purchase. Well, what else to bring down Russian Sou-shki in Syria and Libya?
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  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 18: 17 New
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    Quote: vavilon
    Exactly ! the main thing in the oligarchs is money, and then the same weapon will fly in the opposite direction over the heads of our military

    Who rules Rosoboronprom? Surname, address, appearance.
    Can't provide? But would you sit in Vorkuta for five years for slander?
  • Guru
    Guru 2 June 2020 18: 20 New
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    That sounds beautiful. Patriotic.
    The amount of weapons ordered by Turkey in the Russian Federation amounted to one billion dollars

    But with paying a lot of questions, or again on credit. laughing Turkish Stream-IN DEBT,
    Nuclear Power Plant-In Debt.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 3 June 2020 05: 03 New
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      better on credit than nothing
      1. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 15: 07 New
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        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        better on credit than nothing
        No-her-her !! I will give you an example (!). Ukraine upside down Maidan, within "military aid and assistance", USA, UK (and many others "partners"), really supplied military equipment and weapons (!)but ... would you see this trash (including ambulances and armored cars that come across at some block posts) ... (!)... It's real "burry armored cars of NATO"sixties-seventies release (!). In addition, of course, there were modern military instructors (!)but - FOR CURRENCY, and not small (!), - THIS TIME (!).
        But to really "insolvent country" I didn’t throw it, then the overwhelming part of this money immediately migrated to straight external debt (!), became the reason for default, and the pretext for appointment to all senior posts (Supervisory Supervisory Boards) foreign citizens (most often affiliated with Soros structures). This, in turn, made it possible - to appoint to PUBLIC posts (including the Prosecutor General's Office, for example, or "Ukrzaliznytsia" ....), persons loyal to them through "bride" and harmonization (!) ... Almost direct - external management (!). IT'S ALREADY NOT at all in debt or ANYTHING (!)... Russia cannot afford such "win-win investments" in any country in the world (!)... And to sell on the foreign market, not "yesterday's MiG-29 ", for example, and the most modern Su-35 (!)when in his videoconferencing he to put it mildly - not in excess (or at least in abundance), in the absence of guarantees for the repayment of loans for the sale of weapons through the MTC, (see paragraph this time), - This is nonsense and absurdity (!)- THIS IS TWO (!).
  • T.Henks
    T.Henks 2 June 2020 18: 22 New
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    Why the hell to sell for one billion, giving away just three Ukrainians? Sisyphus labor with tantalum flour. Or is it a particularly perverse way of masochism?
  • Alf
    Alf 2 June 2020 19: 08 New
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    Turkey ordered weapons from the Russian Federation totaling one billion dollars.

    Urya-ya-ya! Two questions.
    1. How will they pay? As usual, on credit with subsequent write-off?
    2. Spit in the direction of Russia descendant of the Janissaries continue?
    1. Alf
      Alf 2 June 2020 20: 37 New
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      Quote: Alf
      Turkey ordered weapons from the Russian Federation totaling one billion dollars.

      Urya-ya-ya! Two questions.
      1. How will they pay? As usual, on credit with subsequent write-off?
      2. Spit in the direction of Russia descendant of the Janissaries continue?

      Are there any objections?
      1. V.I.P.
        V.I.P. 2 June 2020 22: 16 New
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        Well, the Turks deigned to take these weapons for free! laughing To give the debts of the Russian Federation is stupid. They’ll write off anyway. laughing
    2. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 3 June 2020 05: 05 New
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      No way, some will be paid and some will be written off, the United States did the same in NATO, bought weapons on its own
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 2 June 2020 22: 46 New
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    I am generally amazed at the level of analytics of many writers here. Any hucksters gathered or what? Well, a billion, well, so forgive me, for example, my beloved Roma Abramovich bought the most expensive villa in Israel for 65 lyam.
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/06/02/villa
    This is Roma’s joy! And what joy do we have? That we are pumping potential enemies with our weapons? What Turkey, what China. Then everything will fly to us. Our soldiers will die from this weapon. And you will not see a billion from the word at all. In 1939-40 and the first half of the 41st year, the USSR pumped Germany with strategic raw materials, including and military purposes. Perhaps this is also why the Wehrmacht reached Leningrad and Moscow?
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 3 June 2020 05: 13 New
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      you don’t want to buy your Krasnodar tomatoes at 70 and buy Turkish at 40, that's all because of you
      1. tarackanovaleksei
        tarackanovaleksei 3 June 2020 14: 59 New
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        Come on Krasnodar. What's the matter? Where are they? I do not see !
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 3 June 2020 15: 22 New
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          complete but they are 70 and not 40 like the rest
    2. Alf
      Alf 3 June 2020 19: 14 New
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      Quote: Old Fuck
      In 1939-40 and the first half of the 41st year, the USSR pumped Germany with strategic raw materials, including and military purposes.

      Press Schliemann remind what was used for?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 3 June 2020 00: 46 New
    +1
    And the NATO headquarters to move to Warsaw.
  • Dikson
    Dikson 3 June 2020 01: 25 New
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    I definitely didn’t get off with tomatoes ... probably?
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 3 June 2020 05: 13 New
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    Well, maybe all the same a bit of REAL HISTORY to the people! make brains and understand .. that Turkey .. is part of just the royal empire .. and our land!
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 3 June 2020 06: 58 New
      +1
      Here's how to return the cathedral, turned into a mosque, back to Christianity, then let's talk about empires ... :) Although .. they didn’t do it alone - many churches and mosques were built on the sites of other temples and temples ... tradition probably ..
  • musorg
    musorg 3 June 2020 12: 43 New
    +2
    And then Turkey with our bacon, but with our thoughts!
  • tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 3 June 2020 14: 56 New
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    Very good.
  • spectr
    spectr 3 June 2020 15: 44 New
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    Reading such news, you begin to understand that you never understand what is happening in foreign policy. wink
    1. Alf
      Alf 3 June 2020 19: 15 New
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      Quote: spectr
      Reading such news, you begin to understand that you never understand what is happening in foreign policy. wink

      Leonid Ivashov-In Russia, politics is subordinated to the interests of big business.