Project IL-114-300: crucial 2020

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The first prototype IL-114-300 in the original livery, December 29, 2019.

In 2014, the country's leadership ordered the launch of the production of IL-114 passenger aircraft at domestic enterprises. The next few years were spent on the development of an updated project, the preparation of production facilities and the establishment of cooperation. To date, the improved project Il-114-300 has reached the stage of construction of prototypes - and this year the start of flight tests is expected. Accordingly, there are opportunities to assess project prospects.

Technical features


The basic project IL-114 was created in the eighties taking into account the needs of civil aviation of that time and the capabilities of the Soviet aviation industry. It was a regional liner with a payload of several tons. The first flight of such a machine took place on March 20, 1990. A few years later, serial production began in Tashkent. However, it was possible to build less than 20 cars, after which the work was curtailed due to the difficulties of the industry and the lack of interest from customers.



The modern IL-114-300 project provides for the preservation of the general architecture and parts of aircraft units. At the same time, the power plant and avionics are replaced by modern models. Due to this, the growth of the main technical and economic characteristics is achieved, as well as full compliance with modern requirements of various kinds is ensured.

IL-114-300 is a twin-engine low-wing with two turboprop engines TV7-117ST-01 with a power of 2650 hp. and low noise propellers. The auxiliary power unit TA-1 is provided. The aircraft receives a modern digital flight control and navigation system TsPNK-114M2. The crew includes two pilots.

Project IL-114-300: crucial 2020

Production of fuselage sections at the Aviastar-SP enterprise

In the proposed form, the Il-114-300 will be able to take on board up to 68 passengers or 6,5 tons of other load. The maximum take-off mass is 23,5 tons. Cruising speed is 500 km / h, and the range with maximum load is 1900 km. The aircraft is able to work at airfields of various classes, including with poorly trained stripes. The use of modern economical engines with high-performance propellers allows improving flight performance and economic characteristics in comparison with the basic modification.

Production cooperation


The development of the updated project and its individual elements with the subsequent launch of production were entrusted to the United Aircraft and the United Engine Corporation. Several enterprises with extensive experience in the construction and maintenance of civil aviation equipment were involved in production cooperation.

The development of the IL-114-300 performed Aviation complex them. Ilyushin. The production of individual units and the final assembly were distributed between the Voronezh Joint-Stock Aircraft Engineering Company (VASO), Aviastar-SP Ulyanovsk Plant, Sokol Nizhny Novgorod and MiG Lukhovitsky Plant. The project involved a host of other suppliers of individual units. An important feature of the project is the rejection of imported components, all products are manufactured only by domestic enterprises.

At the moment, such cooperation was able to establish the production of experimental aircraft. Voronezh, Ulyanovsk and Nizhny Novgorod are responsible for the manufacture of various units and systems. Finished products are sent to Lukhovitsy, where the final assembly is carried out. It is likely that this approach will continue in the future, when the project reaches serial production.

Prototypes


At the end of December 2019 at the airport of the Flight Research Institute. Gromov in Zhukovsky rolled out the first prototype IL-114-300. According to well-known data, it was carried out on the basis of the basic IL-114 s / n 01-08, built in 1994 in Tashkent. For a long time, this car was in Zhukovsky, and it was rebuilt according to a modern design.


Now in Lukhovitsy, the assembly of the second prototype aircraft z / n 01-10 is being carried out, this machine is being built from scratch. It will be completed this year, after which it will be passed for testing. In February, it became known about the start of production of another aircraft. This will be another prototype, but they are building it completely using serial technologies. With its help, all the necessary production processes will be worked out, which in the future will provide the beginning of a full-fledged series.

According to recent reports, the first prototype IL-114-300, rebuilt from the "simple" IL-114, should now go to ground tests. These events will take several months, and in November the first test flights will begin. By that time, the first prototype of the new construction will come out of the assembly shop.

Flight tests will continue during 2020-22. By the beginning of 2023 AK them. Ilyushin plans to complete the certification of a new model, and then begin mass production with the supply of finished machines to customers. It should be noted that the IL-114-300 project encountered significant difficulties, because of which the timing of the implementation of its various stages was repeatedly shifted. It cannot be ruled out that at the test stage aircraft manufacturers will deviate from the schedule. However, the delay should not be large, and the operation of the aircraft will begin no later than the middle of the new decade.

Pending orders


The first agreement on the supply of future IL-114-300 appeared in 2017. The state transport leasing company placed a preliminary order for fifty aircraft. In the foreseeable future, they planned to bring it to the state of a full-fledged supply contract.


Assembly of the fuselage section at the Sokol plant

In June 2019, the management of MiG RSK announced the presence of several customers. At the end of August, three preliminary agreements appeared for the supply of 16 aircraft to various airlines. The largest order, for 8 cars, was placed by the Yakut Polar Airlines. The smallest order is from KrasAvia from the Krasnoyarsk Territory, which plans to receive three aircraft.

According to known data, deliveries of 16 aircraft to three customers will take several years. The transfer of the first cars is scheduled for 2022, the last - on the 2026th. At the same time, the project developers claim that it is possible to enter the production of up to 10-12 aircraft per year.

Such output volumes will make sense when there are large orders. According to various estimates, Russian airlines require at least several dozen IL-114-300s. Most of the orders will probably begin to arrive after the completion of work on experimental aircraft.

Desired Results


The successful completion of the IL-114-300 project with the launch of the series and the delivery of finished equipment to customers will help to solve several important problems in the context of the development of civil aviation. At the same time, such a plane is becoming one of several similar measures taken in recent years.

The main positive result of the new project is the emergence of another domestic regional aircraft that meets all modern requirements. At the same time, the Il-114-300 is a completely Russian development and is being built only with the use of our units. Due to this, the production and operation of equipment will not depend on imports and possible problems with it.


Preparation of parts for transportation - joint production requires established logistics

Given the difficult situation in the world and the problems of leading manufacturers of aircraft, it can be assumed that the Il-114-300 has commercial prospects not only in the domestic market. However, one should not hope for the rapid emergence of particularly large export contracts.

Decisive 2020


Development and preparation of production of the modern IL-114-300 were not simple and cheap. The work was launched at the end of 2014, but the prototype was not yet in the air. In the early stages of the project, the state allocated almost 9,6 billion rubles to carry out the necessary work. Last year, they added 2,22 billion to organize mass production.

The feasibility of these costs will be shown in the very near future. The completion of ground tests of the first prototype “01-08” is expected, and by the end of the year its first flight will take place. Then, the first prototype aircraft built from scratch will join the tests. It will be followed by a machine using serial technologies.

In general, it is now clear that the industry has coped with the task. The existing aircraft underwent a deep modernization and received new components, thanks to which it now meets modern requirements and can find a place in the system of passenger and cargo transportation.

However, all this must be confirmed in practice, as part of the tests that will start in the near future. 2020 will be a key year in stories project IL-114-300 and determine its real prospects. So far, everything is optimistic.
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  1. +14
    3 June 2020 05: 24
    But the caravan then goes, goes quietly. Well, thank God.
    1. +26
      3 June 2020 05: 48
      Quote: Bulls.
      But the caravan then goes, goes quietly.

      This is yes, considering that the AN-24 began to be developed in 1958, and in 1962 it already began to be operated.
      What can I say ... request
      1. +35
        3 June 2020 07: 31
        Create a State Company, sell planes through the State Bank through it ... link the settlements according to availability, not profit, set the State Price ..... train pilots for free, tie them to the plane and salary ... and the whole system will work.
        1. +30
          3 June 2020 07: 33
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Create a State Company, sell planes through the State Bank through it ... link the settlements according to availability, not profit, set the State Price ..... train pilots for free, tie them to the plane and salary ... and the whole system will work.

          Comrade, so it’s you who painted socialism, but the authorities cannot understand this.
          1. +17
            3 June 2020 07: 34
            I answered the comment:
            This is yes, considering that the AN-24 began to be developed in 1958, and in 1962 it already began to be operated.

            And I forgot about the return to the Russian Federation of the manufacturer of theater
            1. 0
              3 June 2020 10: 19
              It’s clear that the era is different,

              but sometimes you remember about "sharashki" ...

              What an effect!

              What kind of people turned out!
              1. +18
                3 June 2020 11: 16
                If managers close in sharashka ... in the end they will be shot.
                1. The comment was deleted.
                  1. +1
                    3 June 2020 14: 30
                    There must be some kind of correct proportion between designers and managers ....
                    1. +2
                      3 June 2020 15: 22
                      for a couple of designers-100 managers.-
                  2. -3
                    3 June 2020 20: 14
                    Quote: bulvas
                    and let the rest be shot,

                    I think you should start
                    1. +3
                      4 June 2020 06: 56
                      Quote: Sandor Clegane
                      I think you should start


                      Oh!
                      The manager was found.
                      1. -1
                        4 June 2020 07: 50
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Oh!
                        The manager was found.

                        I wasn’t lost, but who is the manager?
                2. 0
                  14 August 2020 19: 47
                  Definitely yes. For, there is no benefit from them, only losses
              2. 0
                17 July 2020 14: 25
                Are you a normal person? Do you think that Russian people are so stupid that they can only create from under a stick, under duress?
                1. 0
                  14 August 2020 20: 35
                  Practice shows that yes ... in the new Russia so far there are no achievements comparable to the USSR
          2. -5
            4 June 2020 13: 13
            Quote: Malyuta
            and the authorities cannot understand this.

            how socialism ended we all know .....
        2. +1
          3 June 2020 08: 33
          Quote: Zaurbek
          set the State Price ..... train pilots for free, tie them to the plane and salary ... and the whole system will work.

          Oh your words, but to someone in the ears! If the words even reach, then anyway, there are those who will not allow to fulfill the desired.
          1. 0
            3 June 2020 09: 45
            Theoretically ..... the cost of the aircraft in rubles .... and it does not depend on $$$.
            1. 0
              4 June 2020 13: 14
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Theoretically .....

              your theory is lame ....
        3. +1
          3 June 2020 21: 41
          Quote: Zaurbek
          and the whole system will work.

          Not everything .. the foreign market is still important. And for this all, you need to make a discount on fuel and service at Russian airfields for all aircraft manufactured in Russia regardless of which airline it belongs to. And then it will be profitable for foreign airlines to fly to Russia on our airplanes. Although what am I talking about .... it is impossible to do in modern Russia.
          1. +3
            4 June 2020 10: 40
            Why? You saturate the domestic market, the aircraft works and production, too. The cost of the product (aircraft) is reduced, localized by 100% and at the dollar exchange rate you begin to conquer the foreign market. Of course, the presence of a second theater (western) will be an advantage.
            1. -3
              4 June 2020 13: 15
              Quote: Zaurbek
              You saturate the domestic market, the aircraft works and production, too. Reduces the cost of the product (aircraft)

              on what basis is cost reduced?
      2. +18
        3 June 2020 08: 23
        Quote: Malyuta
        What can I say ...

        One of the leaders of the space industry recently said that if the current requirements for the safety of aircraft were in force in 1961, then Gagarin would never take off. Therefore, such a hassle with the design and manufacture of any aircraft. Over the period of operation of the An-24, 170 aircraft and 2218 people were lost as a result of accidents and disasters. The whole world strives to reduce these costs, and therefore the requirements for safety and efficiency only increase every year. Therefore, the construction time is growing. And in the story of "114", judging by the media, it was almost completely redesigned and this is an aircraft of a different generation. I think the aviators can describe this story in more detail. And of course, one must bear in mind that the "114" that was taken from Tashkent had to be "planted", even if not in an open field, but for production that was alien to him and not ready for his "series". Again, personnel, money, the general state of mechanical engineering in the country ...
        1. +2
          3 June 2020 09: 47
          Initially, IL-114 was planned to be produced at MAPO. Now Lukhovitsy, where production was created under the Tu-334.
        2. -6
          3 June 2020 21: 35
          How many accidents did Superjet have and how many people did he kill? What is security ?? Maybe import yes ......
          1. +1
            4 June 2020 11: 09
            One crashed into a mountain, the second pilot skillfully planted ...
            1. -3
              4 June 2020 16: 24
              In each case, more than 40 people were killed .. All countries the operators abandoned the jet 100.
              1. +5
                4 June 2020 16: 31
                Not a single accident caused by an airplane .... but in order to move an airplane or a car, you need a good service, such as accepted on the market .....
        3. 0
          3 June 2020 23: 32
          Quote: Hagen
          And in the story with "114", judging by the media, it was almost completely redesigned and this is an aircraft of a different generation.

          "completely redesigned" - and at the same time assembled from parts left over from the last century :)))
        4. 0
          14 August 2020 19: 50
          He noticed it quite rightly. Under socialism, there is a healthy motivation, the native country would live. "Under capitalism," man is a wolf to man and damned competitors. "
      3. +1
        3 June 2020 15: 17
        And what to say? "It's a shame for the state!" The AN-24 was developed "from scratch" for 4 years, but here they have been engaged in "alteration" of a serial machine for 6 years !!!! If S. Ilyushin, S. Korolev, A. Antonov had worked like the current "menagerie" at one time, we would still fly on "An-2", and launch "Belka" and "Strelka" into space!
        1. AUL
          -1
          3 June 2020 17: 44
          Quote: senima56
          And what to say? "It's a shame for the state!

          It's a shame, of course! But, in fairness, I note that remaking the car is harder and longer than building a new one from scratch.
          1. -1
            3 June 2020 22: 58
            True? Then why "fence" the garden with the IL-114? Create a new one!
            As it was in our history. There was a Tu-334 flying sample. But no, they decided to make a new one, and even entrusted it to a company that has never (!!!!) made civil aircraft. It turned out "the best in the world having analogs and blah blah blah" SSJ! Billions of rubles have been pumped up (and continue), 200 have been made, and no one needs him for nothing! They almost give it, but it is not needed!
            1. 0
              11 June 2020 18: 17
              after 334, but before the superjet, an148 appeared which, without any support from the state, found buyers and Russian ones. so you will not tell why airlines bought 148 but persistently did not take 334? maybe it's not the superjet, but the fact that 334 is economically even losing 148? and on the occasion of "entrusted to a company that has never (!!!!) made civil aircraft", can you imagine Korolev was entrusted to launch Gagarin into space, and after all, he had never launched people into space before
        2. -3
          4 June 2020 13: 17
          Quote: senima56
          And what to say? "It's a shame for the state!"

          and what did you do for the power?
          insulting him ......
      4. 0
        3 June 2020 17: 29
        will we live in the past?
    2. +18
      3 June 2020 06: 07
      Quote: Bulls.
      But the caravan then goes, goes quietly.

      Sorry, but this is infuriating. I still understand when new projects are made from scratch, but this Il was already produced and those planes are still flying. And we need such a plane ... but it seems that one of the "powers that be" does not need it. Let me explain why. Now, in order to get from one regional center to another by plane, you often first need to visit Moscow ..., but it is this plane that makes it possible to exclude Moscow from this list by establishing direct routes. And this is clearly not beneficial to some of the "capitalist ministers." And I hope that this epidemic will somehow affect this state of affairs, but again, there is an epidemic, the need for such an aircraft is huge, but since 2014, for six full years there is only ONE full-fledged experimental aircraft, which is assembled from old spare parts and has yet to prepare to flight ... Bad, very bad. You need to react faster and remove those who interfere
      1. -4
        3 June 2020 06: 35
        Someone from the "powers that be" does not exactly need him. But you are not looking at that steppe at all.
        1. +1
          3 June 2020 08: 41
          Quote: codetalker
          Someone from the "powers that be" does not exactly need him.

          Rummage on the internet and find a lot who and how slows down the progress of Russian aviation.
      2. +3
        3 June 2020 06: 38
        Quote: svp67
        And we need such a plane ... but it seems that one of the "powers that be" does not need it. Let me explain why. Now, in order to get from one regional center to another by plane, you often first have to visit Moscow ... but this particular plane makes it possible to exclude Moscow from this list by establishing direct routes.

        I am very sorry hi , but the current government is not capable of not only developing the country, but also self-developing.
        1. -4
          3 June 2020 08: 26
          Quote: Malyuta
          but the current government is not capable

          And the other is not. Well, of course, if you don't come to "help" them. laughing
        2. +4
          3 June 2020 12: 02
          Quote: Malyuta
          but the current government is not capable of not only developing the country, but also self-developing.

          But it does not disintegrate itself - obviously the lower classes are satisfied with it, judging by the way the classics of Marxism described the revolutionary situation. So all the "denunciations" from the area of ​​wishes like "we are for all good versus all bad", and no more. That is why we just need to really look at the world in which we live and not wait for miracles, but rejoice at the success that at least such an airplane will be brought to mind. We need such an aircraft like air, and even our internal needs will be at the level of several hundred units for the civilian fleet.
          1. +1
            3 June 2020 15: 54
            A revolution is possible only during a period of demographic growth. Our population is dying. What revolutionary situation are you talking about ... Roar. problems can only be in those regions where the population is growing. In our country it grows only in the Caucasus. There are problems there ...
            1. +2
              3 June 2020 18: 43
              Quote: MstislavHrabr
              A revolution is possible only during a period of demographic growth.

              It’s not necessary at all - remember the Warsaw Treaty countries, and the transfer of power in a relatively peaceful way in Czechoslovakia, where population growth was unlikely.
              Quote: MstislavHrabr
              Our population is dying. What revolutionary situation are you talking about ...

              About the one that Marxism describes. By the way, revolution is optional - everything can happen in an evolutionary way.
              Quote: MstislavHrabr
              The roar. problems can only be in those regions where the population is growing.

              Africa has a huge population growth, but there have been no revolutions there for a long time - there is only a war of clans and groups.
              1. +2
                3 June 2020 19: 02
                A revolution is a war of clans and factions, but ... leading to radical changes in society. The revolutions in the countries of the Warsaw Pact were caused by the collapse of the USSR and the work of the special services of the "west", and not by internal processes. The external factor was the main thing in them! Besides, it was a counter-revolution!
                1. 0
                  1 August 2020 12: 01
                  Quote: MstislavHrabr
                  A revolution is a war of clans and factions, but ... leading to radical changes in society. The revolutions in the countries of the Warsaw Pact were caused by the collapse of the USSR and the work of the special services of the "west", and not by internal processes. The external factor was the main thing in them!
                  all revolutions, without exception, are caused by the struggle of clans and big money, the people are only able to chat in the kitchen or, in extreme cases, to a senseless and doomed riot
      3. +2
        3 June 2020 10: 00
        Quote: svp67
        I still understand when new projects are made from scratch, but this Il was already produced and those planes are still flying.

        You dig up the history of the birth and construction of "114", it may become more understandable with it. And power is not necessarily present in all his troubles. There are flaws and difficulties of designers. All of you dream of the intrigues of the "powers that be", as if you are the only one on the guard of the state, and all the rest are asleep and see how to "saw off" something. Isn't the burden heavy?
        1. +7
          3 June 2020 10: 03
          Quote: Hagen
          There are flaws and difficulties of designers.

          SIX years, SIX years they cannot eliminate them? During this time, more complex projects from "scratch" came into series
      4. +5
        3 June 2020 15: 21
        I absolutely agree with you! I think there is something else here. It is profitable to develop for a long time: money is dripping, the budget is "sawed". In the meantime, it is being "cut", you can order "Bombardier" or "Embraer" and get a "kickback" from the order! good
      5. +2
        3 June 2020 17: 37
        produced where? in a factory that is already gone, and in another country ... or according to yours, redesign to new standards and technologies, create equipment for production and the production chain is 5 days? naive
      6. -2
        4 June 2020 13: 18
        Quote: svp67
        Sorry, but it infuriates.

        on what basis? where did you get that you can do better / faster?
    3. +8
      3 June 2020 07: 32
      A caravan going "on the sly" is unprofitable and is being overtaken by caravans that go fast.
      1. -4
        4 June 2020 13: 20
        Quote: Zaurbek
        A caravan going "on the sly" is unprofitable and is being overtaken by caravans that go fast.

        everything is lost?
        1. +1
          4 June 2020 16: 19
          It may disappear.
    4. 0
      3 June 2020 13: 07
      Curiously, the money was not allocated from the budget. And from the presidential fund, minfin minfin. Exactly in the same way, the creation of PD35 and IL96 400 is fit in. An indicative example of disagreements and, in fact, a unified development impetus
    5. 0
      3 June 2020 14: 57
      You ride quietly - you will continue ... from the place where you should be. It was necessary to go louder.
    6. 0
      3 June 2020 17: 46
      It does not go, but creeps out of the last forces. The economic organism of Russia is seriously struck by the brilliance of the approaches of the Commander-in-Chief to economic tasks. Everything is explained simply - he cannot allow money to be spent not only with his close circle, but also with the rest who are not built into the vertical of power.
      In short, for Putin, the vertical of power and power itself are more important than the development of the state.
      1. -3
        4 June 2020 13: 24
        Quote: Campanella
        Russia is seriously struck by the ingenious approach of the Commander-in-Chief to economic tasks.

        Can Russia be affected by individuals like you? allow such a thought ...
        Quote: Campanella
        Everything is explained simply

        Well, alternatively gifted is always simple !!!!
        Quote: Campanella
        for Putin, the vertical of power and power itself are more important than the development of the state.

        Was Crimea for vertical or for development?
        1. 0
          4 June 2020 19: 35
          And let's judge by deeds, and not pervert with extra chromosomes.
          Crimea was .... It is important not only to return Crimea, but also to return the country to the people, and not to turn a great state into a booth of buffoons, lawyers and security officials.
          As for me and other ordinary people, here your hints do not roll, the fish goes dead from the head.
          1. -1
            8 June 2020 12: 37
            Quote: Campanella
            Let's judge by deeds

            Well, so I brought you a FACT!
            what do you bring? - only its value judgment ...
            for example:
            Quote: Campanella
            country to the people also return

            Explain what you mean and give examples of countries where the country belongs to the people.
            1. +2
              8 June 2020 17: 14
              An appraisal judgment is your statement about the defeat of the body by individuals and alternatively gifted ...
              You will remember Crimea in 30 years as a great achievement of Putin’s power.
              Well done, Crimea returned, and then what? Sberbank in the Crimea does not work. The economy is completely dependent on China and developed countries, and is this your normal rule?
              Will you give me the facts of successful business work? What specialties are in demand, and you all about Crimea Taldychite. 6 years have passed ...
  2. +1
    3 June 2020 05: 52
    Great plane. Waiting for its production smile
  3. +7
    3 June 2020 06: 18
    The main thing is that those who will fly them have money .... even with us, in the not poor South, I regularly see only one Dash at the airport, although in the USSR there was a complete airfield L410 and An24
    1. 0
      3 June 2020 09: 49
      L-410 is now released in the Urals.
      1. +1
        3 June 2020 09: 50
        But so far they are also not particularly visible and audible.
        1. -1
          4 June 2020 13: 25
          Quote: Zaurbek
          But so far they are also not particularly visible and audible.

          dvigun is not ours .....
  4. +9
    3 June 2020 06: 27
    He was needed 30 years ago to replace the An-24. Old An-24s are still flying, though on parole.
    The aircraft is able to work at airfields of various classes, including with poorly trained lanes

    I doubt that a low-wing plane can land on a primer. An-24 is still flying in Yakutia, since the Bombardier Q300 is a low-wing aircraft and cannot land on a dirt strip. It is not without reason that the Yakut airline Polar Airlines ordered 8 Il-114s, since An-24s fly in this company, the service life of which has long been exhausted and is being extended indefinitely.
    1. Eug
      +8
      3 June 2020 07: 30
      The low wing has good landing properties, no one canceled the effect of the air cushion, albeit to a small extent. In addition, it is possible not to sculpt the chassis on the fuselage, but rather widely position the racks along the wing and not particularly lose the mass of the chassis due to elongated (compared to the fuselage placement) racks. When landing with a crosswind, the distance in width between the landing gears is nothing at all. The wing height above the runway is determined by the diameter of the screw. At Bombardier, most likely, the racks are not adapted for landing on the ground - you need larger pneumatics, respectively larger disks, etc.
      1. -1
        4 June 2020 13: 26
        Quote: Eug
        nobody canceled the air cushion effect

        mean effect ekranoplanovoe?
        1. Eug
          +1
          4 June 2020 15: 15
          Exactly. Allows you to reduce landing speed with all the ensuing buns.
  5. +2
    3 June 2020 06: 27
    It is a pity that it is not known what requirements are indicated in the assignment. To track how much the KB coped with it. And new planes are needed. Different classes, different purposes - the current park is quite quickly becoming obsolete.
    1. -1
      3 June 2020 07: 33
      It is enough to see which aircraft in this class are the most numerous and successful commercially. We must also take into account that there are military requirements for the car.
    2. -1
      3 June 2020 08: 31
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      It is a pity that it is not known what requirements are indicated in the assignment. To track how much the KB coped with it.

      Do you have the competencies of an aircraft design expert? If this is true, then we, ordinary readers, are incredibly lucky ... Drop an article on the plane, if only within the framework of the known information, how it is remarkable and how it differs from Tashkent, if not difficult ...
      1. -1
        3 June 2020 11: 04
        Can't you compare the two columns of numbers? No need to be an expert, just go to elementary school.
        1. 0
          3 June 2020 14: 02
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          No need to be an expert, just go to elementary school.

          You talk primitively. Two columns of numbers can not do here. The fate of the aircraft consists of a large number of different parameters, not always determined by a simple comparison of the numbers.
  6. +4
    3 June 2020 07: 13
    Unfortunately, the flight range is small. The highly loaded route Krasnoyarsk-Norilsk is more than 2000 km. The plane drops out of this route, which is a pity. For success in the market, there must be superior performance to competitors. And do not blame everything on someone's lobby. Profitability. Takeoff, flight, landing, at the same 1500km, how much fuel gobbled up, in comparison with competitors. Reliability, time between compulsory maintenance, in comparison with competitors. Well, the necessary characteristics of airports. If all this is higher than that of competitors, then there will be happiness. Naturally, you all know this very well.
    1. -1
      3 June 2020 07: 55
      This is a solvable issue. The main thing here is the difficult moment - which version of the aircraft will be the main one .. with a long range or with a small one. You can increase a small range or reduce a large one. The main thing is that they would not get a heavily weighted main model, which will be released most of all. But this is a challenge for marketers.
      1. +5
        3 June 2020 08: 14
        Marketers are marketing themselves. The buyer examines the characteristics of the product, its cost. And then he looks into his pocket and thinks if it will benefit me. Everything else is from the evil one. Nobody pays attention to advertising, I can assure you. Advertising "the power of siberia" for what it is, for a marketer, he received money. What did it do? NOTHING. No.
    2. +8
      3 June 2020 08: 02
      He also noted that for the airlines of the Far East, which intend to operate the IL-114-300, should increase the coefficient for subsidizing leasing payments for cars of this type for a period of 10 years. Also, co-financing of the retraining program for flight personnel and technicians should be provided from the federal budget during the transition to IL-114-300.

      General Director of Yakutia Airlines Vladimir Gorbunov, in turn, noted that the price factor is the key and the figure of a billion rubles is large.

      "Each operation of an aircraft results in a history of lease payments. Roughly speaking, 1 billion rubles - This is a $ 150 thousand per month leasing rate. Our Bombardier Dash-8 Q300 / 400 planes go at half the rates. We are for updating the fleet, for our Russian equipment. But all this translates into a serious cost comparable to long-haul aircraft", - he said.
    3. +8
      3 June 2020 09: 01
      IL-114 is not enough for the route Krasnoyarsk - Norilsk, Superjets and MS-21 should fly along this route. The Il-114 is intended for flights to small towns and villages such as Palana, Pevek, Khatanga, Okhotsk, Yuzhnokurilsk, etc., that is, along the routes that the An-24 is flying now.
      1. 0
        3 June 2020 09: 49
        A trend all over the world - aircraft with theater of operations are being supplanted from part of the lines by SSJ-100 aircraft ... they have become economical and, slowly, are building more and more runways.
      2. +4
        3 June 2020 10: 00
        The flight range of the Il-114 is 1900 km, the real one is 1500-1600 km, fuel should probably remain in the tanks, just in case. It is advisable to fly without refueling at the end point, this will reduce the cost of flights and make aviation more affordable in small towns. To Norilsk in the summer send Airbuses. And in winter, the people fly a little. Such an aircraft would be in demand. But the range is not enough. And turboprop aircraft are still more economical to operate than turbojets. Speed ​​is not the most important thing. IL-18 Moscow - Norilsk 6 hours. Tu-154 4 hours. But no matter how many problems there were at the airport for a while in flight, no one paid attention.
    4. 0
      3 June 2020 13: 32
      Quote: Free Wind
      the loaded route Krasnoyarsk-Norilsk is more than 2000 km. The plane drops out of this route, which is a pity.

      Do you want to fly 4 hours? There is a Superjet for these routes. Although there is an option with an intermediate landing .....
      1. +1
        3 June 2020 14: 40
        Well, there are 2.7 hours on the Jet, if you are traveling for more than an hour on a turboprop, you can tolerate against the jet, of course the ticket price should be lower, it should be lower by definition. Compared to the ordeals that passengers have to endure before and after boarding, and how much time is spent on it, so 4 hours versus 3 is nothing. The weather is flying or non-flying. Plus, in Alykel you can get stuck for a day, 35 km to Norilsk, but you can’t get there. Rarity of course, but it happened in people.
  7. 0
    3 June 2020 07: 24
    If Manturov launches Il in a series, it is necessary to announce a nationwide fundraising for the monument to him during his lifetime.
    1. +3
      3 June 2020 07: 55
      The main bird is the MS-21 ... the most capacious market.
      1. +1
        4 June 2020 13: 30
        Quote: Zaurbek
        the most capacious market.

        Do you believe in an open competition market?
        1. -1
          4 June 2020 15: 02
          I believe .... no one forces you to buy a B737. It is just a good car with good service and a good aftermarket. And there are always pilots and spare parts on it. And good leasing support. Naturally, large contracts for $ billion are lobbied by the state.
          1. +1
            4 June 2020 15: 12
            Quote: Zaurbek
            I believe ....

            Blessed is he who believes .......
            1. 0
              4 June 2020 15: 44
              You can't sell anything without faith
  8. -3
    3 June 2020 08: 01
    Quote: Malyuta
    Quote: Bulls.
    But the caravan then goes, goes quietly.

    This is yes, considering that the AN-24 began to be developed in 1958, and in 1962 it already began to be operated.
    What can I say ... request

    we compare Soviet personnel of the xx-x years and D'effective managers of today wassat
    1. +6
      3 June 2020 09: 13
      Compare. 4 years of creation and 170 crashed sides of 1400, 2200 lives. The AN-10 airliner was created even faster, only 3 years, but it was decommissioned by Aeroflot already in 1974 - there was such a big accident. The increase in the development and putting into serial production of aircraft took place as far back as the 1970-80s, it was at high accident rate. Although at the expense of modern managers, I completely agree.
      1. -4
        3 June 2020 15: 54
        Are you one of the Managers? wassat
      2. 0
        4 June 2020 13: 15
        Objectivity is lacking. How many aircraft were lost due to crew errors, weather, for unidentified reasons, and how many due to the "short" terms of development and production? Were the necessary requirements for the operation and maintenance of "aged" (in production and flight time) and not very aircraft lost due to a technical malfunction been met?
    2. 0
      3 June 2020 17: 46
      compare more then how many disasters the AN 24 had and the corpses and how many silt 114 will have, then write your "jokes" here
    3. 0
      4 June 2020 13: 31
      Quote: Klingon
      compare Soviet shots

      Is it not these shots that passed the USSR without a fight?
  9. +1
    3 June 2020 08: 12
    And the engines in the series, or do they also need several years of testing?
    1. +6
      3 June 2020 09: 16
      In the series. Tests at the LII them. Gromov passed. And the turboshaft (helicopter) modification of the TV7-117 has been for several years as in a large series, instead of Zaporizhzhya engines.
      1. +1
        3 June 2020 11: 28
        IL-114-300 is a twin-engine low-wing with two turboprop engines TV7-117ST-01 with a power of 2650 hp. and low noise propellers.


        The power of the TV7-117ST-01 engines is, in my opinion, inaccurately indicated.
        Based on the results of an analysis of the needs of the Il-114-300 aircraft, the best option for boosting engine power for a power plant was selected to meet the requirements for carrying capacity and cruising speed. The TV7-117ST-01 engine has increased take-off power up to 3100 hp.

        Источник контента: https://naukatehnika.com/il-114-300-dvigatel-tv7-117st-01.html
        naukatehnika.com
  10. +2
    3 June 2020 10: 08
    It’s certainly good that we do it ourselves, but given that
    According to various estimates, Russian airlines require at least several dozen IL-114-300
    with so much production, it will turn out gold, and a large export is extremely unlikely
    1. 0
      4 June 2020 13: 33
      Quote: _Ugene_
      with so much production he’ll get gold

      maintaining competencies and technology are priceless !!!!
      1. DDT
        0
        4 June 2020 23: 30
        Oh oh Yesterday's turboprop aircraft became a support for technology and competencies? crying
  11. 0
    3 June 2020 10: 42
    Quote: donavi49
    He also noted that for the airlines of the Far East, which intend to operate the IL-114-300, should increase the coefficient for subsidizing leasing payments for cars of this type for a period of 10 years. Also, co-financing of the retraining program for flight personnel and technicians should be provided from the federal budget during the transition to IL-114-300.

    General Director of Yakutia Airlines Vladimir Gorbunov, in turn, noted that the price factor is the key and the figure of a billion rubles is large.

    "Each operation of an aircraft results in a history of lease payments. Roughly speaking, 1 billion rubles - This is a $ 150 thousand per month leasing rate. Our Bombardier Dash-8 Q300 / 400 planes go at half the rates. We are for updating the fleet, for our Russian equipment. But all this translates into a serious cost comparable to long-haul aircraft", - he said.

    1.Or you create a competitive product
    2. Or subsidies from the budget, state-owned companies, corruption and a return to paragraph 1
  12. 0
    3 June 2020 10: 56
    civil aircraft construction in Russia ... for 20 years a lot of noise and nothing ...
  13. -2
    3 June 2020 10: 59
    good luck guys! well done
  14. +3
    3 June 2020 11: 02
    In the North, where we have many different interests in the absence of a reliable ground transportation infrastructure, this class of aviation equipment is in demand ... the topic of replacing the AN-24 ... the AN-26 with a new aircraft has long overrided ... I really hope that everything works out ...
  15. +6
    3 June 2020 11: 19
    My father-in-law worked in KB TAPOICH (Tashkent aircraft plant), IL-114 were supposed to be produced in a branch in Fergana. It was not as stated in the article "A few years later serial production began in Tashkent. However, less than 20 machines were built, after which the work was curtailed due to the difficulties of the industry and lack of interest from customers."
    As soon as engineering meetings began to be held in the Uzbek language, engineers and designers immediately began to leave the branch. And yes, everything was ready for release.
  16. exo
    +1
    3 June 2020 11: 46
    In the GA school, where I studied, already in the 90th, the stands and class were ready for training on the Il-114.
  17. 0
    3 June 2020 16: 25
    But are there any analogues in production? (Low wing, turboprop, etc.) It is very necessary for us, but here are the technologies ....
  18. +2
    3 June 2020 17: 43
    If this is an airplane for unpaved runways (count broken and short) I have a question:
    Is the screw diameter too large? The ground clearance is somehow suspiciously small! LI-2 and IL-18 can boast much larger gaps!
    The engines do not provide a short take-off ... not enough power (but here another topic rises ...)
    1. DDT
      0
      4 June 2020 23: 25
      And the diameter of the propeller is too big there and, honestly, an uncomfortable plane. I flew on it, before Uzbek Airlines abandoned it, very shaking and noisy. It was interesting because for me it was a "domestic" product. IMHO, the managers are all so ... that at least with something it is necessary to plug the holes in the Russian aircraft industry. The plane was good at the time when it was being developed and planned to be put into production. But the Russian elite did not have kickbacks from it, so the project was quietly killed.
  19. 0
    3 June 2020 19: 46
    on performance characteristics to replace the an-24
  20. 0
    4 June 2020 06: 18
    So that ordinary, by modern standards, planes are not created and launched into series for "a hundred years", I propose to return to the practice of Stalin's sharashka. Well, really, the shame is complete: the Tashkent (80s) copy will be finished for another 5 years!
  21. 0
    4 June 2020 16: 48
    To have such territories and not to produce an airplane for short and medium-haul lines is simply a crime. Well, we have a normal phenomenon when there are no persons responsible for the decision to curtail production!
  22. 0
    4 June 2020 17: 40
    This aircraft should be an air bus in Russia on routes from 400 to 1500 km. Plus, you can make on its basis an anti-submarine aircraft and AWACS / radio reconnaissance and target designation aircraft - in a small format like the Gulf Stream or deck E-2A. The radius can be increased if the payload is modern and light.
  23. DDT
    0
    4 June 2020 23: 21
    TAPOiCH together with Ilyushintsy already installed Pratt on the IL-114. The result, the rise in price of the aircraft and the complete indifference to it from the side of any, not just a potential customer ... I don’t know, IMHO Il-114 is an emergency attempt to load MiG RSK with at least some orders. It’s stupid that the experts do not run away ...
  24. DDT
    0
    4 June 2020 23: 36
    Quote: Efgen
    My father-in-law worked in KB TAPOICH (Tashkent aircraft plant), IL-114 were supposed to be produced in a branch in Fergana. It was not as stated in the article "A few years later serial production began in Tashkent. However, less than 20 machines were built, after which the work was curtailed due to the difficulties of the industry and lack of interest from customers."
    As soon as engineering meetings began to be held in the Uzbek language, engineers and designers immediately began to leave the branch. And yes, everything was ready for release.

    Nifiga, in Ferghana they only planned to release it, but the capacities at the FMZ were never enough for a full-fledged release, and not the eerie meetings in the Uzbek language. In general, the final assembly in Ferghana would require logistics and would cost the project significantly. And from Ferghana they began to lure specialists to Tashkent, due to a lack of personnel in Tashkent itself. No need to tell here
  25. 0
    6 June 2020 15: 55
    Let's hope that the IL-18 "genes" will work ...
  26. 0
    7 June 2020 00: 00
    Demand .... The first certificate for tv7-117 ended in the memorable year 1994 ... Guys, when we start doing something OWN, not Soviet ..?! "scoop" - "scoop", but now we are not able to do anything except a scoop, name at least one UNIT ... at least one ...
  27. 0
    11 June 2020 18: 21
    it bothers me that it’s a low wing, yet the global trend for aircraft of this class is its high wing and built-in gangway.
  28. 0
    22 July 2020 08: 53
    Yes, sir. Count the people in the pictures. And count which of them is actually doing something.

    There is no need to write about the Rogozins and the transport workers ...
  29. 0
    26 July 2020 15: 46
    Quote: Free Wind
    Marketers are marketing themselves. The buyer examines the characteristics of the product, its cost. And then he looks into his pocket and thinks if it will benefit me. Everything else is from the evil one. Nobody pays attention to advertising, I can assure you. Advertising "the power of siberia" for what it is, for a marketer, he received money. What did it do? NOTHING. No.


    Partly correct.
    But there are still passengers
    some do not care what model of the plane, the main thing is that it would be fast and convenient (for some, cheap).
    But some are marketing:
    "We are an air carrier and we have only branded modern planes of the best brand and we are partners of this brand and we also have branded on the logo ..."
    )))

    But our planes have a problem with sales due to poor logistics of spare parts and most likely a lack of a credit line for the purchase.

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