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There are many venerable filmmakers, few high-quality cinema

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There are many venerable filmmakers, few high-quality cinema

One of the topics that are often discussed is why, in the presence of a huge number of venerable directors, cameramen, scriptwriters, professional actors, in our country there are few really high-quality films made. At the same time, some are sure that there have been no such films for 30 years now at all. Others are less categorical and note that worthy films still come across, but only there are much fewer than we would like.


There is still a special group of people who engage in empty criticism. These are people who are accepted for publishing their own, exclusively critical and negative, views on a particular film, often without even watching the film itself. As an option - on the trailer. The result is clear: "I did not look, but I condemn."

Modern cinema is a controversial thing. Indeed, there is a whole scattering of excellent professionals, many of whom are still Soviet, canonical, and cinema schools. But the result is not always the same professionalism that “in the workbook” and in the list of awards.

One of the reasons for this lies not so much in the nature of the directors and actors themselves, as in the requests of modern society. These requests are directly related to the market, which, as it turned out, we have chosen for ourselves as the main ideology. And for the consumer society - and films are most often appropriate.

About the problems of domestic cinema of our days - Klim Zhukov on his YouTube channel:

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  1. sav
    sav 2 June 2020 08: 36 New
    13
    My wife and I are constantly reviewing Soviet films, but the "remake" is nothing
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 2 June 2020 09: 08 New
      16
      Quote: sav
      "remake" something in any way

      Now they do not know how to cry ... Actors play, as Stanislavsky would say - "I do not believe", feigned, tense ... The false is felt right away, I don't want to watch the next "masterpiece" of the modern from the very first frames. . It is especially angry when they try to make remakes of Soviet films with a script that is deep in meaning and an ingenious play of actors, and I just want to say - you can’t, don’t torment the opu ..
      1. Altona
        Altona 2 June 2020 09: 13 New
        13
        Quote: Crowe
        Quote: sav
        "remake" something in any way

        Now they don’t know how to tear ...

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        Psychologism as an element of cinema has been declared an unformatted and discarded as unnecessary. Today's "filmmakers" shoot stupid serials with long dialogues about nothing and action games where the main character has no time to think and no time to explain the reasons for his behavior. Therefore, it makes no sense to watch modern cinema, it is better to immediately play a computer game. After a year so 2010, the cinema began to degrade greatly.
      2. Pravodel
        Pravodel 2 June 2020 09: 50 New
        14
        This is not the first time such a question has been raised in VO, but there is still no answer, although it is on the surface. To answer, you do not need to compose huge dissertations with an endless bibliography, including all publications from the birth of Christ to the present day, you do not need to sit in the halls of cinemas of all these senseless "brands", festivals, congresses of film lovers and just mans, etc., just look one of the masterpieces created by our great directors, for example, The Cranes Are Flying, The Ballad of a Soldier, and any of the latest films released on screens, to see the difference that makes our old Soviet films great and modern films insignificant, to see the difference in the acting, in directing, cinematography and dubbing. Is it possible to imagine in the role of Alyosha in the Ballad about a soldier an actor other than V. Ivashov, and in modern films all actors are alike, there is no memorable one. In any film, Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov, and indeed anyone can play, if only the film came out. And what about camera work: the absolute dominance of close-ups, even where there is none at all. Likewise with directing: these endless love stories that either form the main plot, or complement it for a better perception of the main line, while the main storyline goes far into the unknown. And the constant lies in scripts and in directing, when, for example, a radio operator of a partisan detachment falls in love with a captured German and runs off to the city to see him, where, of course, the Gestapo grabs her and puts her in jail, from where a German in love with her takes her out. Horror and nothing more. Further, the voice acting. Either our universities have ceased to produce sound technicians, or the equipment at film studios has broken down. Everywhere the background, which should only accompany the dialogues, the screening of the film sequence acquired an independent meaning, exceeding the main sound sequence. Sometimes, behind the background, you can't even distinguish the dialogues of the characters. And so everywhere ...
        Where and when will madness be put to an end in cinema, and indeed in art working for the people's money of the Ministry of Culture? In the USSR, artists complained that they were not allowed to work, to create censorship, but at the same time, masterpieces were constantly being created that we enjoy even after 30 years of the collapse of the union. So if the mountain does not go to Magomed, Magomed goes to the mountain - it is worth introducing censorship in order to put an end to ugliness, yes, sometimes, obscurantism in art.
        Another point that indicates the state of modern cinema. In the USSR they worked for art and for the people, and not for festivals, to receive prizes, to hire in the west, didn’t do for the dough. Now the film is not successful if it cannot be rolled in the west and chop the dough. Hence, all the delights of modern cinema.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 2 June 2020 10: 01 New
          +4
          You are about the actors, well, I don’t know, I don’t know ..., but the types are no more ...
          1. Pravodel
            Pravodel 2 June 2020 10: 18 New
            +6
            Not only about actors, but also about directors, screenwriters, cameramen, sound engineers .. Everyone works not for art, but for the dough. And where there is loot, art is the least.
            1. Altona
              Altona 2 June 2020 10: 47 New
              +6
              Quote: The Truth
              And where there is loot, art is the least.

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              You yourself answered the question about censorship. Because the skid of the dough who needs to immediately cancel the censorship framework.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 2 June 2020 10: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: The Truth
          In the USSR they worked for art and for the people, and not for festivals, prizes, rentals in the west, they did not work for the dough. Now the film is not successful if it cannot be rolled in the west and chop the dough.

          For me personally, this is news that the West is purchasing our films.
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 2 June 2020 12: 19 New
            +3
            Quote: tihonmarine
            For me personally, this is news that the West is purchasing our films.

            ===
            despite ideological differences, they nonetheless bought. https://www.ivi.ru/titr/goodmovies/nashi-filmy-za-rubejom
        3. Kart
          Kart 2 June 2020 11: 55 New
          +7
          Quote: The Truth
          Another point that indicates the state of modern cinema. In the USSR they worked for art and for the people, and not for festivals, prizes, rentals in the west, they did not work for the dough.

          How to say. All the same, the actors in the USSR were paid, and not bad for successful roles.
          But firstly, for the really successful, and secondly, not at all as much as today some dropouts from the street are paid just because they belong to the "creative elite", or simply to the rich.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 2 June 2020 14: 31 New
            +3
            Quote: Carte
            how today they pay some dropouts from the street just because they belong to the "creative elite", or simply to the rich.

            Why make a good movie if you pay good for a bad movie.
        4. your1970
          your1970 2 June 2020 13: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: The Truth
          And the constant lies in the scenarios and in the directing, when, for example, the partisan band radio operator falls in love with a captured German and runs into the city to meet him, where, naturally, the Gestapo grabs her and puts her in a jail, from where she is taken out by a German who is in love with her. Horror and nothing more.

          Right here only now??
          That is, when Solomin flew in a "Die Hard" (1967) in a balloon, and then destroyed the fascists in regiments - this is the true truth ??? Or when in the "Special Forces" bang-bang, from a crossbow (!!!) - slap, breathe with pistols - breathe and there is no company of Germans - also true ??
          Won .... apparently retreating to Stalingrad-to lure more Germans burdock?

          In the days of the USSR, too, there were a lot of the same crap movies about the war - as they are now. And nifiga censorship did not save ...
          It was just then that such delusional films were covered by real classics - "They fought for the Motherland" (the greatest film about the war in my opinion !!!) ", Only old people go into battle, Ballad about a soldier, Go and see, Check on the road ... ...

          Putting your hand on your heart, now how many recall good films of the USSR about the war? Without the Internet? 15-20-30 pieces, no more ... and every year they shot at least a dozen about the war. And most of it passed and was instantly forgotten ....
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 2 June 2020 14: 18 New
            +4
            Quote: your1970
            Putting your hand on your heart, now how many recall good films of the USSR about the war? Without the Internet? 15-20-30 pieces, no more ... and every year they shot at least a dozen about the war. And most of it passed and was instantly forgotten ....

            If you remember more than fifty for half an hour! And I consider classics "In War, As In War", "Thirst", "Star", "Baltic Sky", "The Cranes Are Flying", "On Seven Winds", "They Fought for the Motherland", "Torpedo Bombers", "Liberation" , "The Dawns Here Are Quiet", "Belorusskiy Vokzal", "Officers" and further down the list, who would like to continue
            1. your1970
              your1970 2 June 2020 14: 39 New
              0
              Trouble is that they were filmed a lot, at least 10 per year- GOOD my yes yours, well, plus 10-20 and that's all ... For 45 post-war years ...
          2. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 2 June 2020 18: 28 New
            +1
            Put my hand below the pager, I want to note that the same Die Hard lay on the shelf, I hope you know that there was such a regiment where unsuccessful kines were put and only during perestroika they were released to the broad masses. ..
            1. your1970
              your1970 2 June 2020 18: 50 New
              0
              Quote: Skalendarka
              Put my hand below the pager, I want to note that the same Die Hard lay on the shelf, I hope you know that there was such a regiment where unsuccessful kines were put and only during perestroika they were released to the broad masses. ..
              -I know lol .. only here is Trouble - he got on the shelf - when "in 1971, Efim Drabkin, who wrote the script, emigrated." 4 years after graduation ...
              and all art councils / literary committees / censorship quite a passed in 1967
              And yes - do you think "Special Purpose Unit" is the truth about the war? A successful film? No one put it on the shelf .... all modern "Saboteurs" are his followers
              1. Sklendarka
                Sklendarka 2 June 2020 21: 37 New
                0
                I know that I saw about the `` detachment ... '', but I can't remember.
                As I wrote earlier that my father could not watch the film `` Two Soldiers '', with M. Bnrnes ...
                1. your1970
                  your1970 3 June 2020 00: 01 New
                  -1
                  "Katyusha" was rescued by a knocked-out assault force from OMSBON, a mountain of Germans was killed. There is a remake of the same content
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 2 June 2020 09: 28 New
      10
      everything in Putin’s Russia is deteriorating and there can be no other art. The colonial administration carries out orders from strangers who impose mediocrity, insipidity, nonsense, cultivating violence, vulgarity and outright stupidity through movies and TV.
      Who does Putin put at the head of the Ministry of Culture?
      Shvydkoi, Sokolov, Avdeev, Medinsky, Lyubimova. It seems to be different people, but the level of cinematography with them gradually decreased lower and lower.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 2 June 2020 14: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: Bar1
        everything in Putin’s Russia goes bad

        Colleague! You +100500 per comment !!! good drinks
  2. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 2 June 2020 08: 40 New
    +9
    permissiveness does not lead to good / temple ..... in the USSR there were artistic councils that sifted through projects ... the best, as a rule ... remained uncensored ...
  3. Terenin
    Terenin 2 June 2020 08: 40 New
    +9
    Bad movie? Everything is simple. Unfortunately, now, Russian cinema, this huge industry has cut budget dough.
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 2 June 2020 08: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: Terenin
      Unfortunately, now, Russian cinema, this huge industry has cut budget dough.

      The problem is not only this. The problem is that in the years following the collapse of the Soviet Union, the domestic audience was taught (or taught - in the case of younger generations) to love CRESPECT. Watch Crap. Enjoy the JOB. Hackwork and lack of professionalism began to be considered the norm and quality.
      The box office receipts of the same recent underfilm-under-comedy "Servant" clearly prove this. = _ =
      People haws, cho.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 2 June 2020 09: 12 New
        +8
        Quote: Kuroneko
        Hackwork and lack of professionalism began to be considered the norm and quality.

        What is more surprising is that the film was created with the direct support of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation fool
        Where are you, Soviet censorship !!!
      2. svp67
        svp67 2 June 2020 10: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Kuroneko
        The box office receipts of the same recent underfilm-under-comedy "Servant" clearly prove this. = _ =

        Didn't you like him? Well then, watch the drama "On the Moon", the plot is similar, but told in a different way ...
    2. BARKAS
      BARKAS 2 June 2020 09: 09 New
      +5
      There, in addition to the budget dough, there is also money from liberal sponsors who order an ideology in the film, and ideology is always even in the dumbest movie.
    3. your1970
      your1970 2 June 2020 13: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Terenin
      Bad movie? Everything is simple. Unfortunately, now, Russian cinema, this is a huge industry sawing budget dough.

      There was a large article in the magazine Man and Law in the 1980s - about embezzlement in the film industry of the USSR. There were a lot of cases of embezzlement - it just stuck in my memory that, for example, only when shooting the scene of the execution of old Silantius in "Eternal Call" about 10 were stolen rubles, and in total about 000 were stolen from the film. And this was quite an ordinary amount, there were more significant 200 then - this is not 000 million today, this is solid money ...
      Unfortunately, I don’t remember exactly the year (until 1984, my parents wrote out for sure) and number- but the article was big and devastating
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 2 June 2020 14: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: your1970
        There was a large article in the magazine Man and Law in the 1980s - about embezzlement in the film industry of the USSR. There were a lot of cases of embezzlement - I just stuck in my memory that, for example, only when shooting the scene of the execution of old Silantius in "Eternal Call" about 10 were stolen rubles, and in total about 000 were stolen from the film.

        Colleague, you messed up everything or badly remembered!
        First Popular Journal of the USSR Ministry of Justice. Published since 1971.
        The second one. Article 93.1. Theft of state or public property on an especially large scale. Theft of state or public property in especially large amounts, regardless of the method of theft (Articles 89 - 93), especially large - amounting to more than 10 thousand rubles.
        Punished by imprisonment of 8 to 15 years with confiscation of property or the death penalty with confiscation of property.

        In your case, 200 thousand. According to approx. IT IS A 100% HIGH !!!
        1. your1970
          your1970 2 June 2020 14: 32 New
          0
          1) it was necessary to give the output of the journal Man and the Law? I wrote about an article that I read in childhood and which my father swore
          2) And? Tower is admissible and what? Such theft could not be in the film industry of the USSR? Are you alluding to this? Or that I was wrong with the zeros?
          3) it's not in my case thieves filming this movie
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 2 June 2020 14: 42 New
            +3
            Quote: your1970
            1) it was necessary to give the output of the journal Man and the law?

            Do not. Everything if needed)
            Quote: your1970
            I wrote about an article that I read in childhood and which my father swore heavily

            Here I am about it, childhood memories! In our city in the late 70s, a man was taken off his hat, so the city grumbled about this month.
            Quote: your1970
            2) And? Tower is admissible and what?

            And then look if there are convicts or shot people in the film crew! belay
            Quote: your1970
            3) this is not in my case, but among thieves who shot this film

            I pay special attention that the “Eternal Call” - television serial film. In 1979, the main creators of the series were awarded the USSR State Prize. hi
            1. your1970
              your1970 2 June 2020 15: 07 New
              +1
              Well, we’ll look .. I didn’t live to insanity yet and I remember perfectly what I read as a child ...
              My father would not have grumbled about "Hat for a Month" - I drew attention to the article precisely because of his indignation at the scale of theft ...
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 2 June 2020 15: 26 New
                +4
                Quote: your1970
                Well, we’ll look .. I didn’t live to insanity yet and I remember perfectly what I read as a child ...
                My father would not have grumbled about "Hat for a Month" - I drew attention to the article precisely because of his indignation at the scale of theft ...

                laughing Colleague, just in those days the "scope" was different, but due to the fact that the majority were decent, for them the theft of 100 rubles seemed beyond understanding, hence the indignation. I stole a three-ruble note when I was five years old, I treated my neighbor girl with ice cream, Duc Dad disaccustomed me to take someone else's from the iron for the rest of my life good drinks
                1. your1970
                  your1970 2 June 2020 15: 47 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  just in those days, the "scope" was different, but due to the fact that there was a majority,

                  Do you hear yourself ????
                  "All honest and decent" - and simultaneously the state introduces into the Criminal Code of the RSFSR shooting for theft in especially large ????
                  Articles in the Criminal Code appear only when there is an urgent need, when the existing measures - not enough !!!!!
                  And if this is not enough for you, then there is a row of articles 191.1 and 191.2 .... why would it quiet law abiding the country had to introduce responsibility for the attack on police officers and dnd ??? moreover, from 5 years ???
                  Hats for months discussed ... and the wire from the iron ... and silence in the country ...
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 2 June 2020 18: 10 New
                    +2
                    Quote: your1970
                    Do you hear yourself ????

                    Of course! yes The fact is that the article sounds in the original as theft of socialist, i.e. public property(it’s not clear?), and this amounted to undermining statehood.
                    The highest measure of social protection, execution, was applied to particularly "distinguished" thieves and swindlers!
                    Now the second moment, if you stole something for 100 rubles, then you were judged by a COMMANDER'S court, publicly censured and ridiculed in satirical feuilletons, like a "baggage". Those. people were brought up, and not trying to ruin their lives with articles on trifles.
                    As for the police, I declare to you with full responsibility that the cops not only did not have batons, but they practically never carried a personnel card, hence the jokes about a cucumber in a holster. The policemen respected that they were afraid, but everyone knew that for the most part these are decent people who could come to the rescue if necessary.
                    Society was fundamentally different. Is it clear now?
                    PySy. As for the "wire from the iron", it was a single male educational process and I did not respect and love my Father in any way less, but on the contrary, I am grateful to him for everything.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 2 June 2020 19: 13 New
                      0
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Of course! Business
                      -no, you alas do not hear yourself ....
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      The fact is that the article sounds in the original as theft (!!!!!!!!!) socialist, i.e. public property (is it not clear?), and this was equivalent to undermining statehood.
                      The supreme measure of social protection - the shooting was applied to especially "distinguished" (!!!!!!!!) thieves and crooks!
                      -and from here it turns out that it turns out that:
                      a) stole
                      b) they stole and a lot (I had to introduce an article)
                      c) there was something to steal

                      Quote: your1970
                      "All honest and decent" - and at the same time the state introduces into the Criminal Code of the RSFSR execution for embezzlement in especially large ????
                      - I’m on the drum that they were shot, I support it — it was necessary to shoot, otherwise the USSR would have collapsed even earlier, would have been pulled away. Only after that SUDDENLY It turns out that far from everyone was discussing
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      the hat was removed, so the city grumbled about this month.
                      - enough were stolen in such volumes - that I had to introduce a firing squad !!!!

                      Quote: Stroporez
                      As for the police, I declare to you with full responsibility that the cops not only did not have batons, but they practically never carried personnel cards, hence the jokes about the cucumber in the holster.
                      - which is why they introduced an article with "for violence from 5 belay "...so it’s not so scary to carry a cucumber in a holster, huh ....

                      Repeat
                      Quote: your1970
                      Articles in the Criminal Code appear only when there is an urgent need, when the existing measures are not enough !!!!!


                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Society was fundamentally different. Is it clear now?

                      "Society was fundamentally different for one and only reason - everyone had the same: apartments, cameras, furniture, clothes, entertainment, life in the end. There was nothing to envy others - and this gave rise to confidence in the future (" let's earn we will buy, we will master the tea ... "). And then envy appeared - Sharp tape recorders, Finnish toilets and refrigerators (" Finnish Rosenlev, good "© KP), GDR walls and so on, materialism went in one word. And this ruined our society rather any CIA and MI6
  4. knn54
    knn54 2 June 2020 08: 49 New
    +6
    As the parodist Alexander Ivanov once said in the Writers' Union
    There are about ten Krasnaya Polyana. Before the revolution there was only one. N. Tolstoy. And no one has ever heard of the classic works of contemporary countrymen.
    This can be added and modern vocal (not in the sense of voice) singers and much more.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 2 June 2020 08: 54 New
    +8
    The topic is meaningless in the discussion! No consensus will come about.
    Boom to watch "White Sun in the Desert" and "Diamond Arm"!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 2 June 2020 09: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      The topic is meaningless in the discussion! No consensus will come about.
      Boom to watch "White Sun in the Desert" and "Diamond Arm"!

      Also "They fought for the Motherland" ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 June 2020 09: 17 New
        +5
        Quote: Terenin
        Quote: rocket757
        The topic is meaningless in the discussion! No consensus will come about.
        Boom to watch "White Sun in the Desert" and "Diamond Arm"!

        Also "They fought for the Motherland" ...

        The list is long, for every taste ... except for the perverse.
        Today I receive a parcel with books for the "whycheck" club ... all the books of Soviet writers, because this is the correct literature, needed forever.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 2 June 2020 09: 21 New
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          all books of Soviet writers, because it is the right literature, necessary forever

          Victor, and I grew up on these books. yes
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 2 June 2020 09: 32 New
            +5
            Gennady, I want to help children grow up as the right people, therefore I choose books very carefully. Of course, I consult with my parents ... so far there has not been a single misfire. Our people are normal ... just undereducated, and busy, as a rule.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 2 June 2020 09: 39 New
              +5
              Quote: rocket757
              Gennady, I want to help children grow up as the right people, therefore I choose books very carefully. Of course, I consult with my parents ... so far there has not been a single misfire. Our people are normal ... just undereducated, and busy, as a rule.

              Victor, you study with small children in a small circle, and you are doing great good for a huge country. Good luck to you.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 2 June 2020 09: 41 New
                +6
                Thank. Boom to work while there is gunpowder in the bins!
                1. Sklendarka
                  Sklendarka 2 June 2020 10: 04 New
                  +2
                  Good luck ... and look with the kids, The Last Inch
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 2 June 2020 10: 12 New
                    +1
                    We watched when the models of light aircraft did. Older guys already understand everything as it should.
    2. Free wind
      Free wind 2 June 2020 10: 50 New
      +1
      I can’t stand Mironov.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 June 2020 10: 56 New
        +1
        This is not a problem ... everyone can have a celebrity gallery that is not hot to watch.
  6. SARANCHA1976
    SARANCHA1976 2 June 2020 08: 55 New
    +4
    These requests are directly related to the market, which, as it turned out, we have chosen for ourselves as the main ideology. And for the consumer society - and films are most often appropriate. What an amazing story. I thought that culture shapes a person and society doesn’t. It's all your own fault. A magnificent excuse for mediocrity and thirst for profit.
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 2 June 2020 09: 33 New
      +7
      Quote: SARANCHA1976
      . I thought that culture shapes a person and society doesn’t. It's all your own fault. A magnificent excuse for mediocrity and thirst for profit.

      Actually, yes, to blame. Here is an example of literature, for the movie is indifferent. There is such a site, litnet, specialization, mainly female novels. Not that my favorite genre, but sometimes, in the mood .... I can, yes. And the reader votes on the site in rubles. Directly, from the author, buying books, in the electronic version. So here. I read one such book. True free. Niasilila. For Mr. Hero is a vile animal, no animal variant. Mr. heroine is romantic and extremely dumb, um ... young lady of very easy virtue. And this is an extremely modest characteristic of the heroes. Invited and ennobled. I rarely criticize free books, for a freebie ... Don't like it? Do not read. But then it broke through. For the degree of abomination frankly rolls over. Wrote a comment. In style. Dear author, if your daughter or granddaughter is respected, they will perceive it as a guide to action. The author’s answer, literally - go to the prude, I give the readers what they need. Well, readers ... If there was a rating, like the one here ... For one comm, they would probably throw me a minus a million. So ... If the society is absolutely voluntary, and even paying money for it, it hawks such a substance ... Yes, even savoring with pleasure and hysterically squealing at those who hint at them with coprophagy ... Who is this evil cheburashka to us? Sami, all by yourself. And movies and other literature just make money on our requests. And the questions in general are to the moral of society, and not to those who satisfy the requests.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 2 June 2020 11: 24 New
        +1
        And you madam think that it was different before.? I remember being snotty and accidentally reading a story about how damned American planters make young children work. A little boy named "Feather in ..", having drunk some water, sat down in a canoe !!!!!! And swam to collect, cocoa !!!!!!! Fearing leopards !!!!!! wassat I kind of knew geography, it was wild for me to read when adults write nonsense.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 2 June 2020 09: 34 New
      +5
      There is not only market and consumption. Look how much dough is invested in advertising Valentine's Day. And let the films be unprofitable, but anti-Soviet.
  7. stalki
    stalki 2 June 2020 09: 00 New
    +5
    I follow the news. There are very few great quality films. Here's the last one looked "chief", looked forward to, hoped. And in the end, I did not finish even half, spat on. Mediocre work, stuffed with some slogans, a couple of secondary actors play better than the "main" one. Money down the drain. They stuffed something unstoppable into the plot. There are a lot of accents on secondary information, there are absolutely ridiculous scenes that have nothing to do with biography.
  8. Russo Turisto
    Russo Turisto 2 June 2020 09: 01 New
    +3
    Blah blah blah blah, watch the video.
    And in your own words to talk about what there is not enough mind?
  9. apro
    apro 2 June 2020 09: 35 New
    +2
    The law of the market ... what they order ... they take it off.
    It has long been switched to Soviet and old American cinema.
    Every year, Putin's Russia, Soviet actors play better ...
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 2 June 2020 11: 20 New
      +4
      Old French and Italian are good too.
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 2 June 2020 09: 38 New
    +4
    The venerable Soviet people from the beginning of the 90s could not remove anything.
    And as for criticism, if you shot about the 60s, so please and paint the wall, as it was then, and make the border the same. And sometimes for a long time you can’t understand what time the film was shot.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 2 June 2020 21: 39 New
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      Ptashuk ,, in August
      Te44 "
  11. U-58
    U-58 2 June 2020 09: 45 New
    +8
    How does the market affect cinema?
    First of all, forgotten how to make full-length films.
    Authors cannot present their account in 90-120 minutes ...
    They would have series 6 or 8, and preferably 12. And three seasons of 12.
    This results in a "soapy" tyagomotina.
    There are, of course, good series. Spetsnaz, Liquidation, Adventures of Major Cherkasov are recognized and loved by everyone.
    Now about visualization.
    Right and left factual errors - soldier badges and orders of Glory in the form of officers. Again, the commanders of the Red Army until 1943 were called officers and were called what wasn’t in fact. They called the city of Molotov Perm (SMERSH), the city of Kalinin-Tver (Yesterday in Spider).
    The NKNB intelligence school is opened by decision of the General Staff (yesterday in the Intelligence) - nonsense and nonsense. The people in Shtrafbat fight year after year, although the maximum sentence is 3 months ..
    The background of the era, of course, is conveyed, but after all, the details are distorted, and this is postponed in the consciousness of the generation of the exam ...
    That is, the story is distorted.
    Again, according to Western tradition, movie heroes about our days are designers, lawyers, businessmen and sharks, businessmen who just do what they do to their colleagues. They have no time to work ...
    But the man of labor remained overboard, left with Soviet cinema ....
    And viewers watch how they make money, but don’t see how they make a living ...
    Yes, a lot of things can be written. The theme, being left to chance, is immense ..
  12. potap6509
    potap6509 2 June 2020 09: 51 New
    +3
    They took off budget money, limitedly watched it, because it would fail at the box office, they awarded themselves to loved ones at all kinds of Kinotavras, the red carpet, life was good. And nothing else is coming .... no one is watching, I’m an artist (artist), as I see it, further banned.
  13. Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 2 June 2020 09: 58 New
    +1
    And who is Klim Zhukov? ...
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 2 June 2020 12: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Skalendarka
      And who is Klim Zhukov? ...

      ===
      not indifferent, this is already a lot now
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 2 June 2020 12: 39 New
        +1
        This is very good ... but globally? and why should I again increase the number of views for someone?
        Or again, people hawala "???
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 2 June 2020 12: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Skalendarka
          This is very good ... but globally? and why do I again owe to someone - then increase the number of views?
          Or again, people hawala "???

          ===
          ) want me to summarize the content? see for yourself, with one look more or less
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 2 June 2020 12: 48 New
            +1
            You know, to convey information through the film, this demonic occupation ...
            Interested in the outcome is not opinion, but the number of views.
            My opinion may not coincide with the opinion of the author of the article, but to this day it is.
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 2 June 2020 12: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: Skalendarka
              You know, to convey information through the film, this demonic occupation ...
              Interested in the outcome is not opinion, but the number of views.
              My opinion may not coincide with the opinion of the author of the article, but to this day it is.

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              just the view rate is not at all that indicator. some fierce crap, and billions of views
  14. Van 16
    Van 16 2 June 2020 10: 11 New
    +5
    In short, the Union made films for the soul, and now for money.
  15. tatra
    tatra 2 June 2020 12: 50 New
    +7
    And as the creative people in the USSR squealed, "the communists forbid us and do not let us in, they do not allow us to reveal all our talents," but how they got freedom from the communists, they cut us off immediately. Even those creative people who, under the USSR, did something good, talented, like Ryazanov, for more than 30 years of their freedom from the communists, starting with Perestroika, did not do anything better than they did under the communist rule, and even worthy of their level of what they did under the communists.
  16. nikvic46
    nikvic46 3 June 2020 07: 08 New
    0
    In order to scold, you also need inspiration. He is not exhausted. In many films, they show the Soviet system in a very bad perspective. They do not even understand that the more they scold the past, the more attention is paid to the present. he needs to be compared. Everyone who kicks the past should know that in the future they will also be kicked. There is simply no other way.
  17. nikvic46
    nikvic46 3 June 2020 15: 44 New
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    In one novel, a hero in years says I don't want to be applauded for my authority. I want the viewer to evaluate my work on the role of "My wife complains, they say they show some scumbags in the movies. I joked that they are shown so that we We were at war with them. It just so happens, we are returned to the years of the brothers. We must arm ourselves to the teeth, which are no longer there.
  18. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 4 June 2020 19: 28 New
    0
    = One of the reasons for this lies not so much in the nature of the directors and actors themselves, as in the requests of modern society. These requests are directly related to the market, which, as it turned out, we have chosen for ourselves as the main ideology. And for the consumer society - and films are most often appropriate. =
    Is this author’s stupidity or intentional insinuation?
    Yes, the whole public spits on these films, and the author is trying to convince us that these are "public requests"
  19. Old26
    Old26 12 June 2020 18: 46 New
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    Quote: your1970
    In the days of the USSR, too, there were a lot of the same crap movies about the war - as they are now. And nifiga censorship did not save ...
    It was just then that such delusional films were covered by real classics - "They fought for the Motherland" (the greatest film about the war in my opinion !!!) ", Only old people go into battle, Ballad about a soldier, Go and see, Check on the road ... ...

    Putting your hand on your heart, now how many recall good films of the USSR about the war? Without the Internet? 15-20-30 pieces, no more ... and every year they shot at least a dozen about the war. And most of it passed and was instantly forgotten ....

    Here we cannot but agree with you. There were also weak films in the USSR, but they were covered with really masterpieces. And Western films were chosen to match them. It was not for nothing that the expression was common among people: "There are good films, bad films and ... (further on to choose from - Polish, Dovzhenko studios and other options). Right now I am writing and catching myself thinking that from the films released on the screens of the country in 1970, only "Liberation" and the EMNIP state film "Comedians" (about tauntons macoutes in Haiti) are remembered. But surely there were still good films. But human memory - a strange thing - tends to forget. Here we remember the masterpieces. what is below this bar - alas ...

    Quote: your1970
    "Katyusha" was rescued by a knocked-out assault force from OMSBON, a mountain of Germans was killed. There is a remake of the same content

    Even two remakes of ENMNIP

    Quote: U-58
    Right and left factual errors - soldier badges and orders of Glory in the form of officers.

    There are a lot of lyapov now. Maybe due to the fact that there were no military consultants. This morning my wife did a dressing, and I sat and watched a film, or rather some episode of a film .. EMNIP is called either "Hunt for the Devil" or "Hunt for the Devil". I looked, as they say, half an eye. After a series of blunders turned off. On the SS objective, the main characters move in a car with a WH number (Wehrmacht). One of the heroes has a TT pistol. Thank God that the others have Parabellum and MP-38. Yes, all this is happening in Germany, as I understand it.
    So in spite of cable TV I prefer to watch discs of 10-15 years old, both ours and foreign ones. I don't look at garbage. Or if you already ran into it, then a little bit to understand that this is garbage