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The Akademik Chersky pipe-laying vessel has a new owner

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The Akademik Chersky pipe-laying vessel has a new owner

It became known about the change of ownership of the pipe-laying vessel Akademik Chersky. If since 2016 this ship has been owned by Gazprom Fleet LLC, now, according to the extract from registration in the international registry of ships, Akademik Chersky has become the property of STIF (Samara Thermal Energy Property Fund).


It is reported resource RBC.

The Samara Fund mentioned is part of the Gazprom group of companies. Two companies are indicated as its founders. One of them is Gazprom Mezhregiongaz Samara (49%). The second is Gazprom Teploenergo (51%). The total authorized capital of STIF is about 123 million rubles.

Close attention to the ship “Akademik Chersky” is riveted for the reason that it is identified as a potential completion of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. Earlier, pipe-laying vessels of the Swiss company Allseas left the waters of the SP-2 project. They left, because the owners of this company from the United States were threatened with sanctions if they continued to participate in the gas pipeline project.

The change of ownership of the Akademik Chersky vessel is also explained by the desire to reduce sanctions risks, now in relation to Russian companies.

Recall that earlier in the US, sanctions were threatened by all those companies that would take part in the project to build a gas pipeline from Russia to Germany. Today, it remains to lay about 130 km of the pipe along the bottom of the Baltic.
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  1. Hagen
    Hagen 2 June 2020 06: 19 New
    -10
    The change of ownership of the Akademik Chersky vessel is also explained by the desire to reduce sanctions risks, now in relation to Russian companies.

    Gazprom's ears stick out after the new owner, so such an operation may not help. Yes, and the change of owner right before use .... Some other motives are possible in this operation. Although, Gazprom is a rather muddy organization, and decision-making goes through mysterious and ornate paths. In the end, "we will know them by their fruits."
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 2 June 2020 06: 25 New
      -2
      Mnogodhodovochka, savvy. The mattresses will never guess. How are they, huh?
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 2 June 2020 06: 32 New
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        Quote: military_cat
        The mattresses will never guess. How are they, huh?

        When they wanted to "confuse the mattress makers," they create something like the RNKB and the Crimean Railway. You certainly think that there has ceased to "catch mice". laughing
        1. Runoway
          Runoway 2 June 2020 11: 21 New
          -10
          And whether mattresses ??? Under the guise of avoiding sanctions, take it and grab it!
          As for us, under the brand name of the fight against covi-19, how many lards have been allocated, only in fact call, even in Moscow you can’t wait for an ambulance, but I’m generally silent about Zamkadye
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 2 June 2020 12: 20 New
            +3
            If you think a little, the cost of ownership of such a ship will exceed the income from its operation. He is very specialized.
            The circle of customers who need it is extremely narrow. Estimate how many of them all? wink
            But what is interesting, in this change of ownership, is that it demonstrates the determination to complete the pipe and have it in working condition. Do not throw.
            Further it will be seen how the situation unfolds. For example, the Germans took and freed the SP-1 from restrictions. Right now. Although they could have been a year ago, and two.
            So with SP-2 it can happen when it is ready. hi
            1. Normal ok
              Normal ok 2 June 2020 23: 45 New
              -2
              Quote: Alex777
              Further it will be seen how the situation unfolds. For example, the Germans took and freed the SP-1 from restrictions. Right now. Although they could have been a year ago, and two.
              So with SP-2 it can happen when it is ready

              SP-1 initially did not fall under the restrictions of the 3rd energy package of the UES, so only those pipelines that were put into operation after the adoption of this energy package (from mid-2019) fall under it. But SP-2 (still not put into operation) is already regulated by this energy package, about which there is a decision of the German regulator.
              1. Liam
                Liam 2 June 2020 23: 51 New
                +1
                Quote: Normal ok
                SP-1 did not initially fall under the restrictions of the 3rd energy package

                It’s a pity that the land continuation of OPAL
        2. ccsr
          ccsr 2 June 2020 13: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Hagen
          When they wanted to "confuse the mattress makers," they create something like the RNKB and the Crimean Railway. You certainly think that there has ceased to "catch mice".

          You forgot to mention the Vinmobile company, which is a subsidiary of MTS, and which operates in the Crimea as an operator from the Krasnodar Territory - this is how the largest mobile operator in Russia decided the issue of sanctions. So the trick with our pipelayer is reasonable, and I think something similar will be done in order to fill the SP-2 100% with gas after it is put into operation. And some sharashka "Pupkin and Company" can solve the problems of Gazprom bypassing the European energy package.
        3. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 2 June 2020 19: 33 New
          +2
          RNKB was not created: it was long before Crimea, a subsidiary of the former Bank of Moscow.
          It was just that at the right time it was sold to the Crimean authorities and made on its base a support bank of the republic.
          True, the bank's employees sitting in Moscow find themselves in an interesting situation when they have to send an order for stationery to the Crimean office laughing
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 June 2020 06: 28 New
      0
      Hagen (Hagen) Today, 06:19 NEW ... In the end, "by their fruits we will know them."
      Trade secret. It is understandable.
    3. Nitarius
      Nitarius 2 June 2020 06: 54 New
      13
      GAZprom is a normal Organization)))) it does the right thing that it has changed ... while Congress has stirred))) the owner will be replaced there again))) they are tormented to find out who owns it))
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 2 June 2020 07: 15 New
        +9
        Quote: Nitarius
        to whom belongs))

        (Samara Thermal Energy Property Fund).
        You go, get to them, to Samara!
        1. Eh Samara, a town .....
        2. Eh Samara, pump the water ....
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 2 June 2020 07: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          You go, get to them, to Samara!

          Well, in any case, in any case, they will get to Gazprom in more than one movement ... And we will finish the construction for now. Then again the owner change ... tongue
          1. mikh-korsakov
            mikh-korsakov 2 June 2020 09: 05 New
            +3
            In fact, before they deal with Gazprom, they need to deal with their blacks. I found out what the cop had done with the black man, I remembered Sharikov about the cats, "they were choking, choking ..." These blacks are strange people. Yesterday I learned that the Negroes had destroyed the treasury. They think that if the sign is "Treasury", then the treasury is there, that is, money. Well so be it. Then why are they burning stores in parallel? After all, if everyone is burned, then they'll get money. However, this is their problem. But CNN has already seen the light there, they say, it's all Putin! ... It dawned on me. Putin muddied up with the blacks to give Gazprom time to lay the pipe. Oh, this Putin. Cunning!
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 2 June 2020 22: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: mikh-korsakov
              Oh, this Putin.

              It’s he who is still working half the force (he’s afraid of frightening off luck).
              And how the vote will pass, here it is and it will unfold to the fullest (to know which way ...)
              1. aviator6768
                aviator6768 3 June 2020 02: 09 New
                +3
                For twenty years I did not understand which one? (this is at Urals in 98) and gas, respectively ...
            2. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 3 June 2020 19: 57 New
              0
              In the USA, shops are no longer needed - everything can be ordered by phone, online stores, for example, pizza or Chinese food - noodles. About the change of the owner of "Akademik Chersky" - the move is expected, except to lead the chain of owners through two or three offshore ...
          2. orionvitt
            orionvitt 2 June 2020 11: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            in more than one movement they will get to Gazprom ...

            Yes to amers on a drum to whom to get. They already have their own sanctions, scattering around the world wholesale and retail, right and wrong, black and white, with or without. Although not. Right, in bulk and without reason. So that they will not rust.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 June 2020 08: 41 New
        11
        Quote: Nitarius
        he’s doing what he’s right ... while Congress is stirring))) the owner will be replaced there again))) they are tortured to find out who belongs to))

        Common practice in international shipping. They choose a company that is less subject to sanctions and arrests (create a new one) or scatter ships among different companies. And to find out where the ship and its owners are located is a matter of one minute, any ship has a "maiden name" for its entire life. IMO number.
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 2 June 2020 11: 09 New
          +4
          It is also necessary to change the home port to Samara. Walk like a walk ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 2 June 2020 11: 32 New
            +4
            Quote: dzvero
            It is also necessary to change the home port to Samara. Walk like a walk ...

            Well, if there is a home port of Ulan Bator, you can take Samara.
          2. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 2 June 2020 19: 38 New
            0
            Well, what - land Mongolia provides ship registration services under its own flag, so there will be nothing surprising.
      3. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 2 June 2020 10: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Nitarius
        while Congress will stir))) the owner will be replaced there again))) tormented to find out who belongs))

        In this case, it is necessary to find the janitor Uncle Vasya and agree with him on the appointment of his nominal owner of the vessel. And while it will work, pay him a decent pension, and then award him the Star of the Hero of Russia!
    4. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 2 June 2020 08: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Hagen
      Gazprom's ears stick out after the new owner, so such an operation may not help. And the change of ownership right before use ...

      Ears stick out, or don't stick out ... Never mind whose ears stick out everyone knows. They didn’t make any discoveries ... A large organization conducting business at an international level is excluded from sanctions .. This is the main thing. The rest is nonsense,
    5. vkl.47
      vkl.47 2 June 2020 08: 21 New
      -2
      Let them build. With pogroms in the USA no one will notice.
    6. venik
      venik 2 June 2020 08: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Hagen
      Gazprom's ears stick out after the new owner,

      ========
      So what? Whose "ears" there STILL should "stick out"? They want to impose "sanctions", well, let them "impose" against Gazprom Mezhregiongaz Samara - they don't care "on the drum" (will there be "sanctions" against them or not! WHERE is the States, and WHERE is Samara ?!) request
  2. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 2 June 2020 06: 20 New
    -1
    Well, when will the work begin? time goes by
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 2 June 2020 06: 26 New
      +1
      Ryaruav (Ryaruav) Today, 06:20 AM NEW
      0
      Well, when will the work begin? time goes by
      According to previous info, the vessel is refitting. The caliber is not the same)) wink
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    3. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 2 June 2020 07: 03 New
      +2
      what time? 4 more years to eat
  3. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 2 June 2020 06: 24 New
    -4
    If since 2016 this ship has been owned by Gazprom Fleet LLC, now, according to the extract from registration in the international registry of ships, Akademik Chersky has become the property of STIF (Samara Thermal Energy Property Fund).

    Began dancing with a tambourine in the style of "I am not me, the cow is not mine ..." And without these freaks you are afraid to finish building?
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 2 June 2020 07: 17 New
      +3
      these maneuvers only confirm Gazprom’s fears about the seriousness of the intentions of the US senators.
      although if Frau sent Trump yesterday with w7 then Gazprom will have a chance .... right now, bidding around the pipe will begin
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 2 June 2020 07: 21 New
        -2
        Quote: kitty
        these maneuvers only confirm Gazprom’s fears

        Well, so I am writing that it is frustrating for us to directly finish building. Still on homeless Serega academician registered.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 2 June 2020 08: 59 New
          +4
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Well, so I am writing that it is frustrating for us to directly finish building.

          Who was stingy, had long fled.
        2. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 2 June 2020 15: 05 New
          -1
          Still on homeless Serega academician registered.


          And why did you decide that this is not so? In a game of gentlemen, all methods are good. We, for chatter, forget about the main goal. The gas pipeline must be built and operational. The rest is temporary tinsel, gossip, chatter of bloggers and their earnings on the network. Hype in a word.
          1. Arthur 85
            Arthur 85 2 June 2020 18: 07 New
            0
            I agree to take on this heavy burden for a small share. Let them register on me, and let the Americans impose any sanctions against me: the prohibition of dollar transactions, the prohibition of entry into any country from their feeders, the prohibition to have property in their "paradise", harassment, etc.
            1. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 2 June 2020 19: 38 New
              0
              wink Woooo. Already a positive look.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 2 June 2020 18: 07 New
            -1
            Quote: Interlocutor
            In a game of gentlemen, all methods are good.

            This is a game of cheaters. Do not be like them.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 June 2020 06: 24 New
    +3
    Close attention to the ship "Academician Chersky" is riveted for the reason that it is defined as a potential completion of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.
    Very deeply meaningful assumption)) !!! Well, it’s not local gulls that she came to drive !!!

    The change of ownership of the Akademik Chersky vessel is also explained by the desire to reduce sanctions risks, now in relation to Russian companies.
    Most likely this is the economic reality.
  5. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 2 June 2020 06: 34 New
    -6
    Even let it be repainted and the name changed ... someone in the muddy Gazprom office is afraid that they will wring out foreign assets under sanctions? In general, is this bustling and poking of the ends into the water, is it worthy behavior?
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 2 June 2020 07: 40 New
      10
      Quote: viktor_ui
      is someone in a muddy Gazprom office afraid that they will wring out foreign assets under sanctions?

      But the United States, which imposes sanctions without having any rights except the desire to squeeze a competitor out of the market, doesn’t bother you, is this normal?
      Quote: viktor_ui
      In general, is this bustling and poking of the ends into the water, is it worthy behavior?

      Decent behavior? Worthy of whom, opponents?
      1. viktor_ui
        viktor_ui 2 June 2020 07: 53 New
        +1
        Do you have Gazprom shares in Alex? As an average person and not an opportunist, I have enough information to draw conclusions - all the fuss with this stacker, in the terminal box, reminds me personally of the scheme for avoiding tax with some peppers, this does not seem to protect state interests - even though it’s cracking, it looks dumb. There is nothing to blame on opponents, since the faces themselves are crooked ... they are pushing openly and brazenly, which means there is something and why to take Gazprom for candelabra. The question then immediately raises another, and whose Gazprom then ... is it a national treasure? Like the bowels and resources of my country. Yes, and do not teach me business pzhst - refrain.
        1. Kisa
          Kisa 2 June 2020 16: 42 New
          0
          you mixed two sides of one question - and so it is clear that this game will pass by mine and your pocket. here I have resigned myself and I'm not talking about justice, but as an outside observer, the wording of imposing sanctions doesn’t cut my ears, not for Crimea Skripale or elections, but for the abstract energy security of Europe ..... hmmm in peacetime this would be a winning case in court
      2. Yehudi Menuhin
        Yehudi Menuhin 3 June 2020 02: 06 New
        0
        And who promised you the gentlemen's agreement? This is a big business, a lot of money, and here, like in a war, all the money goes into action. Offended with an anguish is stupid.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 2 June 2020 08: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: viktor_ui
      In general, is this bustling and poking of the ends into the water, is it worthy behavior?

      Do you offer to play "gentlemen's" with cheaters?
    3. ccsr
      ccsr 2 June 2020 13: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: viktor_ui
      In general, is this bustling and poking of the ends into the water, is it worthy behavior?

      The Americans, of course, behave "decently" when they impose sanctions on us? Do not be ridiculous - in this world, the concept of "worthy" is defined not by Russia, but by the US administration, and therefore we must behave with them as with ordinary crooks who are trying to sell you a "golden" copper ring at half price. I don’t know if you have heard the anecdote about how one resident of Odessa divorced gypsies who sold him a copper ring for 50 dollars, and he told them that he had only a hundred, and let them give change. The gypsies willingly agreed to this, and only at the reception center did they find out that they had received a fake hundred, but they gave the change in a real bill. This is the only way to breed the Americans and Europeans by creating various front companies in order to get our backbone companies out of their sanctions.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 2 June 2020 06: 50 New
    +1
    The Samara Fund mentioned is part of the Gazprom group of companies.

    Sanctions will still be thrown .... but they need to buy something from ours anyway, with an outbid from intermediaries. And the wolves did not get anything, in principle, some laurels of "winners" which they will not be able to eat anyway, but they will keep the sheep anyway, because they themselves are needed.
  7. Break through
    Break through 2 June 2020 07: 09 New
    -2
    Cool come up with sanctions smile
  8. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 2 June 2020 07: 37 New
    0
    well, now you can get down to business ...
    1. major147
      major147 2 June 2020 10: 57 New
      +4

      "Fatruna" is loaded with pipes where the "Academician Chersky" was loaded before. Switched places. I follow them.
  9. uav80
    uav80 2 June 2020 07: 55 New
    +5
    It was necessary to transfer to the Ministry of Defense and business then ..)))
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 2 June 2020 12: 03 New
      +5
      And there are pipeline troops, maybe a fleet .... Moreover, the work is not ter. waters and economic zone ....
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 June 2020 08: 00 New
    +1
    The main thing is that the striped ends should not be found, but who is the main beneficiary, on whom do you put penance?
    1. Yehudi Menuhin
      Yehudi Menuhin 3 June 2020 02: 10 New
      0
      You in vain keep striped for idiots. If they want to find the ends, they will find it easily. But they may not want to
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 3 June 2020 05: 29 New
        +1
        It’s not me who holds them for idiots, they are such in life, if only Colt was in his hands, but there would be an Indian.
  11. svp67
    svp67 2 June 2020 08: 03 New
    +1
    It became known about the change of ownership of the pipe-laying vessel Akademik Chersky.
    In the meantime, this "leapfrog" is going on, from the Pacific Ocean, two support ships of the pipe-laying vessel are sailing at full steam ... Why did they not go all at once?
  12. Avanturist
    Avanturist 2 June 2020 08: 21 New
    -7
    Yes, this pipe is expensive for Russia, but to see the game is worth the candle .. Let's see!
    1. major147
      major147 2 June 2020 11: 03 New
      +6
      Quote: Avanturist
      Yes, this pipe is expensive for Russia, but to see the game is worth the candle .. Let's see!

      I want to remind you that the pipe is built on the money of several foreign companies, and not just Russia.
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 3 June 2020 21: 15 New
        -2
        Quote: major147
        I want to remind you that the pipe is built on the money of several foreign companies, and not just Russia.

        The pipe starts in Yamal. “The cost of building this corridor from Yamal towards Europe was calculated by the economists of the VNIIgaz Institute back in 2008. The Program for the Integrated Development of the Yamal Peninsula and Adjacent Water Areas, signed by Miller (a copy is at the disposal of the author), states that according to various scenarios, the creation of such an infrastructure just to Torzhok, not to mention the routes from Torzhok to the sea coast, will cost from $ 80 billion to $ 93 billion. How much Gazprom actually spent on laying new pipes to bypass Ukraine is not reported. "
  13. Sova
    Sova 2 June 2020 08: 41 New
    +3
    Quote: Avanturist
    Yes, this pipe is expensive for Russia, but to see the game is worth the candle .. Let's see!

    Well, not only to Russia, but also to European companies Shell, Gasunie, E.ON, OMV, Nord Stream AG.
  14. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 June 2020 08: 53 New
    -8
    When it was necessary to spend money on the maintenance and repair of the device, and the money was big, the owner was alone. And when the ship began to earn money, and also large ones, it was time to change the owner, of course. The owner’s charter capital is just for half a day of the ship’s operation. Swimming in the ocean of abomination ...
  15. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 10: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Hagen
    The change of ownership of the Akademik Chersky vessel is also explained by the desire to reduce sanctions risks, now in relation to Russian companies.

    Gazprom's ears stick out after the new owner, so such an operation may not help. Yes, and the change of owner right before use .... Some other motives are possible in this operation. Although, Gazprom is a rather muddy organization, and decision-making goes through mysterious and ornate paths. In the end, "we will know them by their fruits."

    I think you are poorly oriented here. Gazprom is liable in future sanctions with its share of ownership in this ship, but by no means with common property in Russia.
    Will you be able to calculate for yourself how much Gazprom can lose, even if sanctions cover its entire share, and not part? Well, the Samara company is not a pity, it can generally be sold, with a burden in the form of sanctions, to a third party, or even not a Russian one, at a discount, thus depreciating the loss. Sell ​​for $ 10, allowing participation in the management of this part of the assets for this share - $ 10. Which, in fact, cancels the losses themselves, and does not allow foreigners to control. What can you decide to vote, having such a scanty piece of paper?
  16. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 10: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    The main thing is that the striped ends should not be found, but who is the main beneficiary, on whom do you put penance?

    This is determined by one click of the finger. Everything is indicated in the register. But legally, it is possible to impose only the owner (s) of a particular asset, and sanctions cannot be extended to the Main. It’s the same as punishing the Earth, or Russia.
    In order to reduce the expected losses, this property suddenly began to cost a penny, and was fragmented into shares that are little related to the main company itself. Shares that can be sold at a discount, because this sale is burdened with sanctions. Sell ​​at least the same Venezuela for $ 100. Payment of sanctions with SUCH property - microbial. Venezuela, having such a small share in Gazprom, will forever stand on the threshold without deciding absolutely anything.
    Just this legal prank.
    Let me explain with an example- You have an old bike. You have done something, and by law, only this bike can be taken from you to cover the damage. You can’t pick up a brand new Mercedes, which you don’t have.
  17. BAI
    BAI 2 June 2020 10: 32 New
    +4
    Legally, everything is clean. To get Gazprom, the States will have to change the law.
    1. DMB84
      DMB84 2 June 2020 14: 49 New
      +2
      The states, in my opinion, will soon simply indicate the wording "but because!" ... and that's it for the introduction of sanctions. With variations of "I don't like the muzzle", "I wanted it", "so that it was disagreeable", and "just like that". Anyone else hoping to legally avoid US sanctions? Children, by God, children ...
  18. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 11: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Avanturist
    Yes, this pipe is expensive for Russia, but to see the game is worth the candle .. Let's see!

    The pipe is of great importance in the future. Given the idiocy of the West in introducing green types of energy generation, in the future, unlike today, it is impossible to pump energy from country to country, as is now done, to Germany from Norway and France, when the wind is small and the windmills are standing, level such happiness will be such that it will not be enough for everyone, given the peak loads, the role of a stable energy supply that does not pollute the environment will become crucial. https://bezgin.su/articles/140-jenergetika/58241-geojenergetika-vlijanie-vije-na-stabil-nost-jenergosistem

    One small example for lazy people who do not want to read a large article - the power delivered by a 5 kilowatt wind turbine at 4 meters per second wind is 100 watts.
  19. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 2 June 2020 12: 23 New
    +1
    It's good! So, people think that preparation for work is going on, the beginning is soon! smile
    1. iouris
      iouris 2 June 2020 13: 20 New
      -4
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      So people think

      But what, you can not think?
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      preparation for work is going on, soon to start!

      Russians harness for a long time, and then they don’t go anywhere. Soon the end!
  20. iouris
    iouris 2 June 2020 12: 32 New
    -3
    If it were possible, the "combination" should have been carried out a year earlier, it would not have been necessary to drive the "Chersky" around the world. No guys, it's not like that ...
  21. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 15: 35 New
    -4
    Quote: viktor_ui
    Do you have Gazprom shares in Alex? As an average person and not an opportunist, I have enough information to draw conclusions - all the fuss with this stacker, in the terminal box, reminds me personally of the scheme for avoiding tax with some peppers, this does not seem to protect state interests - even though it’s cracking, it looks dumb. There is nothing to blame on opponents, since the faces themselves are crooked ... they are pushing openly and brazenly, which means there is something and why to take Gazprom for candelabra. The question then immediately raises another, and whose Gazprom then ... is it a national treasure? Like the bowels and resources of my country. Yes, and do not teach me business pzhst - refrain.

    If you're so sharpened in business, why the hell are you shrugging your shoulders? Don't you understand. that the sale of this steamer to an unknown company, for such a penny money, is a desire to minimize losses from future possible sanctions? A company that has a couple of hundred thousand timber assets in its assets? In this case, Gazprom will only lose this company, and it is legally impossible to extend the fines to the creator of this "almost offshore" company. Well, they will impose sanctions on this firm. How much can you heat it? An amount exceeding its cost is not allowed. Is it possible to take from you what you do not have?
    They do everything right.
  22. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 15: 47 New
    -4
    Quote: viktor_ui
    Even let it be repainted and the name changed ... someone in the muddy Gazprom office is afraid that they will wring out foreign assets under sanctions? In general, is this bustling and poking of the ends into the water, is it worthy behavior?

    Gazprom is a fully state-owned company in Russia. Is it difficult to understand that if the President of Russia removes and appoints the chief helmsman of this company, then ..... The questions of price, area and subjectivity of trade are all in the hands of the state. Domestic and foreign prices, subsidies, benefits and more. The fact that you are not kicking a tooth in this matter is your misfortune.
  23. Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 2 June 2020 17: 59 New
    +1
    And when will we read about laying the first kilometer of the pipe? After the rain on Thursday?
  24. T.Henks
    T.Henks 2 June 2020 18: 30 New
    0
    I can become the new owner of the ship. How self-employed. On self-isolation. I will determine the authorized capital later.
  25. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 2 June 2020 19: 00 New
    -1
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    If since 2016 this ship has been owned by Gazprom Fleet LLC, now, according to the extract from registration in the international registry of ships, Akademik Chersky has become the property of STIF (Samara Thermal Energy Property Fund).

    Began dancing with a tambourine in the style of "I am not me, the cow is not mine ..." And without these freaks you are afraid to finish building?

    you can’t .... and if they do, they will get an authorization ...... and then they will start asking for help from the state and it’s possible financially .... and who then will whine that they won’t get drunk in any way and give the people's money? want to guess?
  26. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 21: 06 New
    -4
    Quote: military_cat
    Mnogodhodovochka, savvy. The mattresses will never guess. How are they, huh?

    Guess. This can be seen at first glance, not even a specialist. The point here is completely different. The point is not the legal implication of such a transaction. Everything is done in such a way that no court will be able to impose sanctions on this setup, a fine exceeding its authorized capital. This is how you can take away your only rusty bicycle for some crime. Even if this is not enough. A brand new Mercedes, a three-story house can not be taken away from you, just because you do not have them. They can only fine the asset that this company has.
  27. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 21: 13 New
    -4
    Quote: Arthur 85
    And when will we read about laying the first kilometer of the pipe? After the rain on Thursday?

    Where are you in a hurry? We have 5 years before the completion of the transit agreement through Ukraine. And this time we will spend on the nerves of Western "partners" who will balance on the brink of disrupting gas supplies. Let the penguins feel the filthiness of the ukrov, the reliability of the pshek, the price of liquefied gas for penguins, and let them shake for their loot, driven into Nord Stream-2.
  28. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 21: 18 New
    -4
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Interlocutor
    In a game of gentlemen, all methods are good.

    This is a game of cheaters. Do not be like them.

    It is necessary to suppress the enemy with his weapons, which you need to learn how to use better than him. If you sit down to play cards with cheaters, it is better to immediately take everything off yourself and not to suffer.
  29. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 2 June 2020 21: 28 New
    -4
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    If since 2016 this ship has been owned by Gazprom Fleet LLC, now, according to the extract from registration in the international registry of ships, Akademik Chersky has become the property of STIF (Samara Thermal Energy Property Fund).

    Began dancing with a tambourine in the style of "I am not me, the cow is not mine ..." And without these freaks you are afraid to finish building?

    you can’t .... and if they do, they will get an authorization ...... and then they will start asking for help from the state and it’s possible financially .... and who then will whine that they won’t get drunk in any way and give the people's money? want to guess?

    Do not guess.
    This setup was created on purpose. Everything is done legally indisputably, and the risk of losses in the event of the announcement of sanctions is reduced to the loss of part of the property of this impoverished company. You can only select what is in your asset. Rusty bike, old computer. The skyscraper cannot be taken away just because. that you don’t have it.
  30. APASUS
    APASUS 2 June 2020 21: 38 New
    +1
    Previously, it was necessary to sell, and even some sort in Cambodia. But now it’s impossible to hide the ends
  31. aviator6768
    aviator6768 3 June 2020 02: 15 New
    +2
    How many articles there were - "Ukrainians - in flight ...". "sp-2 will push the Americans aside ..." , the prospects are vague in terms of price and, in general, expediency ... Is the power of Siberia, - Chayanda in terms of reserves, overvalued at times? Miller is kicked. They already name the successors, who is easier?