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Anton Gubenko, “Russian Kamikaze”

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Anton Gubenko, “Russian Kamikaze”

The war in the Far East once again thundered in the summer of 1937, when Japan invaded China. The fighting began in July 1937 and continued until the end of World War II. The help to the Republic of China was provided by the Soviet Union, which sent its military specialists to the country, including pilots. In March 1938, Anton Gubenko arrived in China, becoming one of the pilots of the Nanchang fighter aviation groups.


In the Chinese sky, he won several air victories, the most famous of which was the ram on May 31, 1938. This event made an indelible impression on the Japanese themselves, who dubbed the ramming pilot a “Russian kamikaze,” calling the pilot of another country “the son of the sacred wind” (kamikaze). The international press also wrote about the successful ramming: in Japan - with a certain fear and apprehension, in Germany - with indignation, in the UK - kindly, in Canada - with enthusiasm.

How Anton Gubenko came to aviation


Anton Alekseevich Gubenko was born on January 31 (February 12, according to a new style) in 1908 in the small village of Chicherino, located in the Volnovakhsky district of Donetsk region, into an ordinary peasant family, he is Ukrainian by nationality. Already in the early 1920s he moved to his brother in Mariupol, where he graduated from the seven-year plan, as well as the factory-apprenticeship school (FZU).

In these years, the life of Anton Gubenko was the ordinary life of a simple Soviet worker. At the same time, Anton was actively looking for his place in the world. In Mariupol, he managed to work at the railway station, as well as on the ships of the Azov Shipping Company. Six months later, he worked on the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, being a dolphin hunter. In those years he was attracted by a thirst for travel and new experiences. From the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus, Gubenko again returned to Mariupol, where he worked as a mechanic's assistant for another six months until Anton noticed a newspaper article about recruiting pilots for school.


Anton Alekseevich Gubenko

The idea of ​​becoming a pilot captured the young man, and he wrote a statement to the Komsomol district committee asking him to be sent to a flight school. Already in May 1927, Anton Alekseevich arrived in Leningrad and entered the Leningrad military-theoretical school of pilots. After completing his studies in Leningrad in 1928, he entered the 1st Kachinsky Military Aviation Pilot School, which he successfully graduated in 1929.

As aviation major general Pyotr Stefanovsky noted, Anton Gubenko was not one of the light cadets, but he was very purposeful, striving ahead, ahead of the training program and always wanted and wanted to fly. According to Stefanovsky, Anton Gubenko knew the theory very well and flew superbly, which allowed him to make a successful career in the Soviet Air Force. Peter Stefanovsky believed that the qualities of Gubenko were innate, he was a pilot from God. At the same time, Anton never tired at the airport, which only confirms that he liked the business he was doing.

Best of all, the quality and aspirations of the young pilot reflects an episode from his training biography, which was described by Major General Stefanovsky. Making a landing after heavy rain, Anton Gubenko could not stop the plane, which rolled out of the runway and landed its wheels in a pit, after which it rolled over. For the pilot, this episode could end in death, but by and large it escaped with only fright. When the airport staff ran up to the plane, the pilot hung upside down on parachute belts. Instead of swearing and a perfect mat, which could be heard from a person in this situation, Gubenko calmly asked: "But the second flight will not go wrong?"

The beginning of an army career


After completing his studies at the flight school, Anton Gubenko went to serve in the Far East, where he gradually gained experience and skill. At the beginning of his service he was a junior and senior pilot, then a flight commander. In 1934 he became commander of an aviation detachment in the 116th fighter aviation squadron of the Moscow military district. After some time, he will become an instructor in the piloting technique of the aviation brigade and will be directly involved in the testing of new aircraft.


I-16 fighter type 5, which participated in the battles in China in 1938

In the summer of 1935, Anton Gubenko was appointed the leading pilot in conducting military tests of the new Soviet I-16 fighter. At the final stage of testing a new combat vehicle, Gubenko performed a flight aimed at identifying the ultimate loads of the fighter’s design. At the same time, the tests themselves were completed one and a half months ahead of schedule, and Anton Gubenko was awarded the Order of Lenin for the successful testing of a new combat vehicle in May 1936. In total, the future Hero of the Soviet Union took part in tests of 12 types and modifications of new Soviet aviation equipment.

At the same time, Gubenko not only flew on a new fighter, but also managed to make several rational proposals aimed at improving the quality of the combat vehicle, which were taken into account by the designers. At the same time, the command spoke flatteringly about Anton, calling him a pilot of a new, modern formation. By that time, there were 2146 aerobatics behind him, and the total flight time on different types of aircraft was 884 hours, during which time the pilot successfully made 2138 landings and had no accidents and breakdowns. At the same time, Gubenko was a very experienced parachutist-instructor, having made 77 jumps, 23 of which were experimental, and two more were made at night.

It is believed that in the 1930s Gubenko witnessed a plane crash when, during takeoff, the young pilot did not notice the plane in front of him and chopped off the tail of the front plane with a screw. The car received serious damage that would lead to a disaster in flight, and the plane of the culprit of the accident remained intact. What he saw led Anton Gubenko to the idea that such a "trick" could be cranked up in aerial combat, as the last and most extreme measure in the fight against the enemy.

Air ram on May 31, 1938


On March 13, 1938, Captain Anton Gubenko, as part of a group of Soviet pilots, was sent to China, which at that time was already at war with Japan. The Soviet Union sent the best and most trained combat pilots to China. In the Chinese sky, Gubenko fought as part of the Nanchang fighter group, led by Lieutenant Colonel Blagoveshchensky. Soviet volunteers had to not only fight with the Japanese, but also help the Chinese prepare national flight personnel, for which several flight and instructor schools were opened in China at once.

So for Anton Gubenko a new page of life opened up - participation in real hostilities. In the Chinese sky, a Soviet pilot fought from March to August 1938, having shot down 7 enemy aircraft during this time. So in the battle on April 29, 1938, reflecting the enemy air raid on the city of Hankou, Anton Gubenko saved his combat comrade Senior Lieutenant Kravchenko. During the battle, Gubenko noticed how a Japanese fighter was chasing a damaged Kravchenko plane and rushed to help, even though he himself had already run out of ammunition by this time.


Anton caught up with the Japanese fighter and maneuvering and imitating attacks managed to drive him away from the damaged comrade’s plane, after which he accompanied the fighter Kravchenko until the time of the emergency landing. And when on June 26, 1938, the I-15bis Gubenko fighter was shot down by the enemy and the pilot had to throw himself with a parachute, Kravchenko himself was already covering his comrade from attacks by the Japanese until the landing.

The most famous episode with the participation of a brave Soviet pilot occurred on May 31, 1938. On this day, at 10 a.m., as part of an I-16 fighter group, Captain Anton Gubenko flew out to intercept a large group of Japanese combat aircraft, numbering 18 bombers and 36 escort fighters. All Soviet and Chinese pilots took part in the reflection of this large-scale raid on Hankou. The battle in the sky started directly on the outskirts of the city.

Already at the end of the air battle, when Gubenko used up all the ammunition, he unexpectedly discovered the A5M2 fighter lagging behind the rest of the Japanese forces and decided to try to force him to land on the Chinese airfield. Having flown close to the enemy fighter, Gubenko tried to order him to land by signs, but the Japanese decided to break away from the Soviet fighter and leave. Having made a coup through the left wing, the Japanese fighter increased speed, but Anton caught up with the enemy and again repeated the demand. Most likely, at that moment, the Japanese pilot finally realized that his opponent did not even have ammunition and, ignoring his demands, quietly turned and flew in the direction he needed.

It was at this moment that Anton Gubenko decided to shoot down an enemy aircraft with a ram. Having flown close to the Japanese fighter, Gubenko propelled the enemy’s aircraft on the left wing aileron, as a result of which the A5M2 lost control and crashed to the ground, which was soon confirmed by the Chinese command. At the same time, the I-16 Gubenko did not receive serious damage and safely landed at the airport. The case received publicity in the press and was widely covered in China. For this air battle, Captain Anton Gubenko was awarded the Golden Order of the Republic of China, while Chiang Kai-shek held a personal meeting with the Soviet pilot, after which he hosted an evening reception in honor of the Soviet pilots, placing airmen in the best hotel in Hankou on the Yangtze River.

Death in a plane crash


During his stay in China from March to August 1938, Anton Gubenko made more than 50 sorties on I-15bis and I-16 fighters, having a total of 60 hours of combat flight. The pilot took part in 8 air battles in which he shot down 7 Japanese aircraft. After returning to the USSR, Gubenko was awarded an extraordinary military rank, while he immediately became a colonel. After conferring a new rank, Anton Alekseevich began preparing for admission to the Air Force Academy, but was immediately recalled before passing the exams and was sent by the Air Force Directorate to the Belarusian Special Military District on August 8, 1938 for further service as deputy commander of the district’s aviation.


Annotation board on Gubenko street in Smolensk

In February 1939, Anton Alekseevich Gubenko was introduced to the rank of Hero of the Soviet Union for the courage and bravery shown in battles with the Japanese in the Chinese sky. Ahead, the brave Soviet pilot ace could have had a successful military career, but the commander valuable to the Soviet Air Force tragically died on March 31, 1939 in a plane crash that occurred during training flights with firing. He was buried in the Polish cemetery in Smolensk, in 1971 he was reburied in the square in memory of Heroes, located near the Smolensk fortress wall.
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  1. Olgovich
    Olgovich 31 May 2020 05: 51 New
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    dolphin hunter.

    Dolphins feel sorry ...
    tragically died on March 31, 1939 in a plane crash that occurred during training flights with shooting.
    What happened? Big loss..
    August 8, 1938 sent by the Air Force Белорусский special military district for further service as deputy county aviation commander.


    Aviation commander The Belarussian district, General I.I. Kopets shot himself in his office around 18:00 p.m. on June 22, 1941 after he had learned the scale of aviation losses in his district ...
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 31 May 2020 06: 23 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Dolphins feel sorry ...

      And if he were a fisherman, would he feel sorry for the fish? By the way, I wanted to ask everything, why Olgovich, not Natashevich, or is Tatyanovich there? Although Svetlanovich is also so wow ...
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 31 May 2020 06: 42 New
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        Quote: Fitter65
        And if he were a fisherman, would he feel sorry for the fish?

        I will explain: a dolphin is not a fish. although it is floating, the root crop is not a finger, although it is similar.

        Do you hunt dogs too?
        Quote: Fitter65
        By the way I wanted to ask everything and why Olgovich, not Natashevich, or is there Tatyanovich? Although Svetlanovich is also so wow ...

        This is from ignorance. hi
        1. Theodore
          Theodore 31 May 2020 07: 17 New
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          Alas! But when there were many wounded in Sochi, it was the dolphins that were hunted! The city literally smelled of dolphins for several years ..... recourse
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 31 May 2020 08: 03 New
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            Quote: Theodore
            Alas! But when there were many wounded in Sochi, it was the dolphins that were hunted! The city literally smelled of dolphins for several years.

            During the war, it is understandable and justified, this is a famous story ...

            By the way, who knows what kind of "aerospace forces" on poster 1938 r posted at the beginning of the article? No.
            1. Serg koma
              Serg koma 31 May 2020 20: 12 New
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              Quote: Olgovich
              During the war, it is understandable and justified, this is a famous story ...

              And "fish oil" for children in peacetime ???
              ZY "liquid fat obtained from the fat of marine mammals (whales, seals, beluga whales, walruses, dolphins), as well as polar bears and fish."
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 1 June 2020 07: 08 New
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                Quote: Serg Koma
                BUT "fish fat "children in peacetime ???
                ZY "liquid fat obtained from the fat of marine mammals (whales, seals, beluga whales, walruses, dolphins), as well as polar bears and fish."


                belay
                The word FISH is not noticed?

                Fish oil - animal fat, contained in fish and obtained from fish - for example, from a large, weighing 1,3–2,2 kg, three-lobed fatty cod liver. It is found in large quantities in sea fish in the cold waters of the oceans - in mackerel, herring, and other fatty fish.
                1. Serg koma
                  Serg koma 1 June 2020 09: 03 New
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                  Quote: Olgovich
                  contained in fish

                  There are also the concepts of "fish" and "fish" laughing
                  You are currently using modern technology that excludes the use of fat of marine mammals (though Yapi, and many others like them, did not give a damn about it), ask - "blubber"
                  Dig a deeper topic, for example, until the time when there were whaling fleets in the USSR, and the USSR did not join the 1982-1986 moratorium.
                  1959 - whaling flotilla "Soviet Ukraine". 1961 - the whaling base “Soviet Russia”, assigned to the port of Vladivostok, the fleet consisted of 20 whalers and a research vessel. The base was intended to work in any latitude of the oceans. Whale production capacity allowed to process 75 whales per day total weight over 4 thousand tons, produce 1 tons of fat and 200 tons of whale flour with 100% utilization of raw materials. The cesspools “Soviet Ukraine” and “Soviet Russia” were the most powerful in the world.


                  And further
                  Commodity Dictionary - Fish Oil
                  Fish oil
                  Fish oil (fish fat), fish fats and sea ​​beast medical, medical fish oil - processed fish oil and aquatic mammals animals.
                  ......
                  The main source of fish oil is the cod liver, as well as subcutaneous fat of dolphins, seals, whales. The liver of aquatic animals is characterized by a high fat content and at the same time serves as a place of accumulation of vitamins A and D. The largest amount of vitamin ..............
                  1. Serg koma
                    Serg koma 1 June 2020 09: 19 New
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                    July 31, 1995 decommissioned and subsequently disassembled for metal in the Turkish city of Aliaga.
                  2. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 1 June 2020 09: 27 New
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                    Quote: Serg Koma
                    There are also the concepts of "fish" and "fish"
                    You currently using modern technology excluding the consumption of fat of marine mammals (true yapi, and many others like them, did not give a damn about it), take an interest - "blubber"
                    Dig a deeper topic, for example, until the time when there were whaling fleets in the USSR, and the USSR did not join the 1982-1986 moratorium

                    1.And what to use? Concepts ... stone century?
                    2. Apart from yupps, practically, nobody
                    Quote: Serg Koma
                    And further

                    Yeah:
                    Fish (in particular, cod) fat - animal fat contained in fish and obtainedth fish - for example, from a large, weighing 1,3-2,2 kg, three-lobed fatty cod liver

                    This is the Big Russian encyclopedia : [35 t.] / Ch. ed. Yu.S. Osipov. - M.: Great Russian Encyclopedia, 2004—2017.

                    Do you know the difference between the ENCYCLOPEDIA of modern and the snuffled museum dictionary?
                    1. Serg koma
                      Serg koma 3 June 2020 20: 03 New
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                      Quote: Olgovich
                      Do you know the difference between the ENCYCLOPEDIA of modern and the snuffled museum dictionary?

                      Do not dodge - the beginning of the topic
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      dolphin hunter.

                      Dolphins feel sorry ...

                      Refers to the pre-war years. Until the 80s, our whalers supplied the country with fish oil. Probably you were given this muck in childhood, so a "sniffed" dictionary in the subject good
                  3. kytx
                    kytx 6 June 2020 18: 16 New
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                    Whales and now beat the truth only kmns and only manually.
                    . And the Japanese officially announced that we do not care for your moratoriums as we finished off our whole lives and will continue now
            2. Astra wild
              Astra wild 31 May 2020 20: 37 New
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              Olgovich, you are undoubtedly an erudite person, but sometimes you are replaced now too: "what kind of" aerospace troops "on the 1938 poster"
              Who told you that this is a 1938 poster? This is a modern poster for VKS officers to let them know about their predecessors.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 1 June 2020 07: 14 New
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                Quote: Astra wild
                Who told you that this is a 1938 poster?

                He is so served.
                Quote: Astra wild
                This is a modern poster for VKS officers to let them know about their predecessors.

                On the poster about the feat of the past century mention of modern videoconferencing is inappropriate.
                1. Astra wild
                  Astra wild 1 June 2020 13: 11 New
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                  Is it difficult to enable analysis? He rammed it on May 31, 1938, and was appropriated a Hero of the Soviet Union in 1939 and most likely with a neutral wording: "for the courage shown in the performance of military duty" or how was it then formulated? Naturally, the ram was not publicly reported, and since then there was no such poster in 1938
                  Another thing is that the design is not the best
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 1 June 2020 13: 20 New
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                    Quote: Astra wild
                    Naturally, the ram was not publicly reported, and since there wasn’t such a poster in 1938

                    Exactly! hi

                    And the poster could not be and the videoconferencing could not be, but the poster ... is presented! belay request recourse
          2. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 14: 22 New
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            Quote: Theodore
            The city literally smelled of dolphins for several years ....


            "These are dolphins, son. This smell cannot be confused with anything. I love the smell of dolphins in the morning ..." (c)
        2. Fitter65
          Fitter65 31 May 2020 07: 45 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          Do you hunt dogs too?

          It was the case, at one time they shot at the airport, very much interfered with the flights. In Korean cuisine, the dog has not the last place, unlike pork in Muslim countries.
          Quote: Olgovich
          I will explain: a dolphin is not a fish.

          I explain: at one time many mammals were hunted in many countries. Yes, and to this day
          Norway produces only minke whales in the northeast Atlantic. Production volumes ranged from 218 whales in 1995 to 646 in 2003
          . In the Faroe Islands, about 950 grind is mined annually. From time to time, other cetaceans, such as the high-sided bottlenose and the Atlantic white-sided dolphin, are also caught
          In 2006, Iceland decided to resume commercial fishing. The annual quota of 30 minke whales and 9 finals has been approved. Iceland violated the IWC moratorium on commercial fishing on October 22, 2006, when Icelandic whalers caught a 60-ton finwale female.
          Greenland Eskimos catch about 170 whales a year - the third largest fishing in the world after Norway and Japan, which hunt 600 or more whales annually.
          So you’ll be horrified if you find out how many reindeers are killed under just one Norilsk ... I’m silent about geese and ducks ...
          Quote: Olgovich
          Quote: Fitter65
          By the way, I wanted to ask everything, why Olgovich, not Natashevich, or is Tatyanovich there? Although Svetlanovich is also so wow ...

          This is from ignorance.

          I see ... I thought it was from your great mind, but it turns out like ... Well, what can I do? laughing hi
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 31 May 2020 07: 56 New
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            Quote: Fitter65
            It was the case, at one time they shot at the airport, very much interfered with the flights. In Korean cuisine, the dog has not the last place, unlike pork in Muslim countries.

            fi ...
            Quote: Fitter65
            . In the Faroe Islands, about 950 grind is mined annually. From time to time, other cetaceans, such as the high-sided bottlenose and the Atlantic white-sided dolphin, are also caught

            common the beast
            Quote: Fitter65
            So you’ll be horrified if you find out how many reindeers are killed under just one Norilsk ... I’m silent about geese and ducks ...

            Let me remind you about horseradish and finger
            Quote: Fitter65
            Quote: Fitter65
            I wanted to ask everything
            .

            Answer: it is from ignorance -like questions

            There is highlighted.

            Again .... didn’t get it? belay
            1. Fitter65
              Fitter65 31 May 2020 08: 15 New
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              Quote: Olgovich
              Let me remind you about horseradish and finger
              Quote: Fitter65

              Horseradish ordinary or Horseradish horseradish (Latin Armorácia rusticána) is a perennial herbaceous plant, a species of the genus Horseradish (Armoracia) of the Brassicaceae family. A popular cultivated plant; leaves and roots are used in cooking and medicine.- as you understand (I hope) this plant
              1. Fingers - parts of the body of four-legged vertebrates (optional), located at the ends of the limbs and serving mainly for touch and manipulation (especially in primates) [1]. In birds, the fingers of the forelimbs serve as part of the skeleton of the wings, and in bats they are its main part.
              2. Fingers (eng. Digits) - tubular cuticular appendages located at the ends of the legs of the marine tardigrades of the families Halechiniscidae, Batillipedidae, Renaudarctidae and Neostygarctidae (class Heterotardigrada, order Arthrotardigrada), ending with claws or adhesives.
              so which of these options do you compare with the plant laughing
              Quote: Olgovich
              it is from ignorance -like questions

              So, after all, man is trying to enrich his knowledge by asking questions. Although asking you questions will not be enriched with knowledge. It happens ...
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 31 May 2020 10: 01 New
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                Quote: Fitter65
                Horseradish ordinary or Horseradish horseradish (Latin Armorácia rusticána) - a perennial herbaceous plant, a species of the genus Horseradish (Armoracia)
                1. Fingers - body parts of four-legged vertebrates (optional),

                Well, you can do it when you want.


                Quote: Fitter65
                So, after all, man is trying to enrich his knowledge by asking questions.

                wanting to find out something the person is turning to literature in the corresponding field of knowledge.

                How the hell are you, for example yes

                Quote: Fitter65
                Oh how! So kill for the sake of feeding deer and other herbivores is this normal? But marine animals are bad ?! And given that these Faroe deer no, but the only source of meat is whales and dolphins

                In the richest Denmark?
                The slaughterhouse on the Farrers is a slaughter for the sake of slaughter - their "culture", you see, is like that .. fool negative
                1. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 31 May 2020 10: 17 New
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                  Quote: Olgovich
                  In the richest Denmark?

                  Well, the rich have their quirks. I hope you saw the videos and read the comments to them from the annual Farrere "festival" for killing cetaceans - by the way, the main "democrats" have never been outraged by this process, well, these are from WWF (World Wildlife Fund)
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  How the hell are you, for example

                  Unlike you, I don’t treat you at all laughing
                  1. Serg koma
                    Serg koma 31 May 2020 20: 22 New
                    +4
                    Yes, you get rid of Olgovich .... Olgovichi - a branch of the house of the Rurikovich, do not bother to rise above the crowd of smerds laughing Let even a little virtual prince feel himself a prince of blue blood wassat .
                    1. Astra wild
                      Astra wild 1 June 2020 13: 48 New
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                      Serge, as the eldest in virtual epaulettes, I put to your mind: Rurikovich in Russia stopped on Ivan the Terrible. Then there were the Romanovs. There was a lot about this site.
                      Olgovich take offense that they value low, because, Rurikovich is no longer relevant
            2. Fitter65
              Fitter65 31 May 2020 08: 24 New
              +2
              Quote: Olgovich
              Quote: Fitter65
              . In the Faroe Islands, about 950 grind is mined annually. From time to time, other cetaceans, such as the high-sided bottlenose and the Atlantic white-sided dolphin, are also caught

              Common beast

              Oh how! So kill for the sake of feeding deer and other herbivores is this normal? But marine animals are bad ?! And if you consider that there are no deer on these Faroe Islands, and the only source of meat is whales and dolphins, then what about people? Let's go ahead and say that not only destroying animals for food and other things is a sin, but destroying for this plant is also very bad. Well said A, we say B ...
              1. Free wind
                Free wind 31 May 2020 09: 20 New
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                I read the cookbook for 50-53 years, so there are many recipes for preparing dishes from the dolphin. Since the fifties, there has been increasing talk of the rationality of dolphins. That is, you can equate this with cannibalism. White monkeys didn’t seem to eat. And most of the tribes completely hunted them and ate themselves, and another hunter could have accidentally slipped a gape monkey inadvertently. In the Faroe Islands, from time immemorial, sheep have been bred. The extraction of whales in Chukotka is carried out in a brutal way. Whales are killed for 5-10 hours. The Chukchi were asked to give them large-caliber weapons, similar to the weapons of the American Eskimos. But figs to you, Native American hut.
                1. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 31 May 2020 09: 51 New
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                  Quote: Free Wind
                  Whales are killed for 5-10 hours. Chukchi asked to give them large-caliber weapons,

                  I don’t want to lie, but according to one, a colleague, a neighbor. Now I work with him in the status of a state enterprise, a representative of the small ethnic groups of the north, he knows how moose from Saig are quickly overwhelmed, but !!! they have a custom that young guys go to the woods looking for an elk or a zubyur and with the help of bows and spears should fill him up ... then with the knife of the times Erofei Palych, they cut him ... Everyone has their own ideas about mercy ... The Poles of all the fugitives from Auschwitz was either killed or returned to the camp, the question is which of them was more merciful? hi
                  1. Free wind
                    Free wind 31 May 2020 10: 33 New
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                    I am not talking about mercy anywhere, just the faster you kill the animal, the less hemorrhoids you will have. The wounded bear turns into a cannibal, the wounded moose will soon die. A wounded whale can blow the Chukchi "kayak" to shreds. The same Moby Dick wounded destroyed 2 ships. They cannot kill a whale purely physically, it is very huge. You only need to get into the brain, and the whale simply does not substitute its head, therefore they torture him until he is weakened. And you can kill. Eskimos hunt with large-caliber weapons, and roofing felts with extended explosive bullets, like grenades. harpoon, came closer, a shot and brains turned into a mess. Hunting with a bow for elk, red deer, even small, even ultra-small people, is prohibited. And a hunting or fighting bow in our country can be made by only a few craftsmen. The Poles did not kill all the fugitives, And they saved many, and this is fraught with execution, here is your lie. And, unfortunately, there weren't many runaways.
                    1. Fitter65
                      Fitter65 31 May 2020 10: 36 New
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                      Quote: Free Wind
                      the wounded moose will die soon.

                      The truth before this manages to make a colander from Pradik ... drinks
                    2. Serg koma
                      Serg koma 31 May 2020 20: 42 New
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                      Quote: Free Wind
                      Bow hunting for moose, Manchurian deer, even for small, even very small peoples, is prohibited. Yes, and hunting or combat bow in our country can produce units of masters.

                      Crossbows and bows-All bows-Bows for hunting
                      So "white" with a bow is possible, but aborigines (small, even ultra-small peoples) not?
                      "Hunting with small arms throwing weapons will be subject to the same hunting seasons. Depending on the strength of the bow, you can use it to kill any animal from a small pheasant to a bear or a wild boar, but you should remember about the limit, hunting zones and the presence of a hunting season and obtaining permission to shooting of certain species of animals outside the hunting season. "

                      The timing of the extraction of objects of the animal world, classified as objects of hunting
                      (approved by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of January 10, 2009 N 18)
                      The object of the animal world, related to the object of hunting. Production time. Subjects of the Russian Federation.
                      I. Wild ungulates
                      North-West Federal District
                      1. Elk all sex and age groups of males during the rut October 1 - December 31, August 25 - September 30, Republic of Karelia, Arkhangelsk Region, Vologda Region, Leningrad Region, Murmansk Region, Novgorod Region, Pskov Region, Nenets Autonomous Area
                      all sex and age groups males during the rut October 1 - January 15 August 25 - September 30 Komi Republic
                      all sex and age groups males during the rut October 15 - December 31 August 25 - October 14 Kaliningrad Region
                      2. Sika deer all sex and age groups of males during the rut October 1 - December 31 September 15 - October 31 in the habitat
                      3. Red deer, all male and age groups, during mating on October 1 - December 31, September 15 - October 15, Leningrad Region
                      all age and gender groups males during the rut October 1 - December 31, August 25 - September 30 Kaliningrad Region
                    3. Astra wild
                      Astra wild 31 May 2020 21: 59 New
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                      "The Poles did not kill all the fugitives" colleagues, and you do not think that we are carried away by handing out ideological labels. Yes, the Poles do not like Jews, but tell me the nationality, where at least once, but did not follow the Jews? And Belarusians and Russians and Poles are ALL different and there are bad and good ones.
                      Back in the 80s, I read that the Jews have a list of Jews' saviors, I don’t remember how it is called correctly, but the Germans and Russians and Ukrainians and Poles are also listed there.
            3. gsev
              gsev 31 May 2020 22: 14 New
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              Quote: Olgovich
              Common beast

              In the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century, monkey stew was made. The first wintering workers at the Antarctic stations considered this a delicacy.
        3. Kronos
          Kronos 31 May 2020 12: 12 New
          +3
          Idol Nikolai 2 was hunting you for dogs
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 14: 24 New
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            on cats, like, no?
            1. Kronos
              Kronos 31 May 2020 14: 24 New
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              It's even worse + ravens
          2. gsev
            gsev 31 May 2020 22: 24 New
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            Quote: Kronos
            Idol Nikolai 2 was hunting you for dogs

            In general, there was cool fake information on liberal sites about Russian savages in which even Emperor Nikolai2 himself was a notorious flayer. Fake was made on the basis of photographed illustrated reports of the imperial hunts. On exalted girls, like cute kitties, made a depressing impression. There were cats, and dogs and birds.
            1. Kronos
              Kronos 31 May 2020 22: 27 New
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              What are you talking about from his diary?
    2. knn54
      knn54 31 May 2020 11: 57 New
      +1
      LOSS BIG:
      Anton Gubenko was also an experienced test pilot; he mastered 12 types of aircraft. Before arriving in China, he was entrusted with the tests of the I-16 fighter. Thanks to the skill and dedication of Gubenko, the tests of the new military aircraft were completed half a month ahead of schedule. For outstanding success in mastering aviation technology, success in combat and political training, Anton Alekseevich Gubenko was awarded the Order of Lenin.
      During tests in a real combat situation, he witnessed one incident when a young pilot, not noticing the plane ahead of him, took off his tail with his propeller. At the same time, the plane responsible for the accident was practically not injured ...
  2. Fitter65
    Fitter65 31 May 2020 06: 17 New
    +7
    He is Ukrainian by nationality.
    The controversial statement that a person was born in the territory of the future Ukraine does not automatically make him a Ukrainian ...
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 10: 50 New
      +2
      still does not automatically make him Ukrainian ...


      Lev Zakharovich Shuster was the first of the Soviet "volunteers" to ram a month before Gubenko. He was born in Perm. This does not automatically make it Russian, of course))
      1. 210ox
        210ox 31 May 2020 11: 49 New
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        By the way, note that the memorial plaque is installed in Russia, Smolensk. I am ashamed that having lived there for half a century, I did not know about this hero. This street is in a microdistrict on the outskirts of the Severny airfield and an aircraft plant.
      2. Fitter65
        Fitter65 31 May 2020 12: 19 New
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        Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
        He was born in Perm. This automatically, of course, does not make him Russian))

        For those who quote on an armored train, Anton Alekseevich Gubenko was born on January 31 (February 12 according to a new style) in 1908 in the small village of Chicherino, located on the territory of the Volnovakhsky district of Donetsk region if you show me on the map of the Russian Empire of 1908-14 the publication of such an interesting territorial-administrative entity as Ukraine, then I will be extremely grateful to you, because until the abdication of Kolyan No. 2 such a concept as Ukraine in the Republic of Ingushetia did not exist, from the word at all. And so for conspiracy theology, the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, is based on the site of the settlement, which was called Perm! And one part of the city is called Jomga by the name of the Nanai camp! Attention question, for you personally Dr. Frankenstucker (Alexander ), who then by nationality Alexei Maresyev, who in those far years, not only built our city, also graduated from the Komsomol Aero Club, well ...? On one side is the village of Perm, on the other a Nanai camp bully
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 12: 24 New
          +1
          And I'm not talking about Gubenko, but about Shuster and idiotic reflections in the spirit of "born in Ukraine, but that doesn't make him a Ukrainian ..." The fact that he was born in Perm doesn't make the Jew Shuster a Russian either. I don’t understand what kind of devil you need to focus on?
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 31 May 2020 12: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
            idiotic reflections in the spirit of "born in Ukraine, but that doesn't make him a Ukrainian ..."

            Yes, it's hard for you. I won’t write about logical thinking here, I won’t understand anyway. I’ll explain it more simply: Gubenko was born in 1908 in the Russian Empire, while no one knew about such a haemorrhoid like Ukraine, by the way, like I. Sikorsky and S. Korolev. And here it’s hard for you to understandNikolai Vasilievich Gogol (surname at birth Yanovsky, from 1821 - Gogol-Yanovsky; March 20 [April 1] 1809, Sorochintsy, Mirgorod Uyezd, Poltava Province - February 21 [March 4] 1852, Moscow) - Russian prose writer, playwright, poet, critic, publicist, recognized as one of the classics of Russian literatureNot a Ukrainian at all.
            Yes, if that - the prose writer is not the one who wrote about the bunny (by the way, "bunnies" are all sorts of interesting,laughing)
            1. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 12: 47 New
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              why should it be hard for me? I am not interested in your fuss with the national belonging and the "fifth column". After 2014, there is some kind of hysteria with the identity of historical persons. Have fun, I am not opposing you - not interesting.
              And for God's sake do not touch the logic. She has nothing to do with it.
      3. cost
        cost 31 May 2020 13: 32 New
        +2
        Lev Zakharovich Shuster was the first of the Soviet "volunteers" to ram a month before Gubenko.

        Lieutenant Lev Zakharovich Schuster fighter pilot from the group of Nikolayenko 118th IAE. Arrived in China on March 16.03.1938, 29. Taran committed April 1938, XNUMX over the city of Hankou (China) and died.

        The Kuomintang press reported on April 30, 1938: "On April 29, two air rams took place over Wuhan. The first was committed by junior lieutenant Chen Huaymin from the 4th air group of the Kuomintang Air Force, who on the I-15bis in a battle with five A5Ms on a frontal attack crashed into the Japanese The fiery explosion killed both pilots.
        In the same battle, Russian Lieutenant Shu Syde from the squadron of Captain E.M. Nikolayenko, piloting an I-16, struck the tail of a Japanese fighter. The possibility of rescuing Japanese pilots in a similar situation was already mentioned above, as for the Russian pilot, it can be assumed that he was either already wounded, or in a collision he lost consciousness due to a blow to the sight, since he did not attempt to use a parachute and later, his remains were found at the crash site of his fighter. "

        Posthumously lt LZ Schuster was awarded the Order of the Red Banner of Battle.
        His Chinese nickname was Shu Syde
        1. cost
          cost 31 May 2020 13: 39 New
          +4
          In the book (Zhirokhov M. A. and Kotlobovskiy A. V. - "I am going to ram". Moscow, published by "Yauza - EKSMO", 2007.) about the ram of L. Z. Shuster it is written the following: "Traditionally, Soviet sources included ram after Lieutenant Lev Shuster from the squadron of Captain E. M. Nikolaenko However, this is clearly a post-war version of political workers, since the memoirs of Soviet volunteers in China literally say the following: “Young pilot Shuster died in a battle with Japanese fighters. When attacking the enemy at close range, he did not calculate the exit from the attack and collided with the Japanese. "
          These events occurred on April 29, 1938.
          In the skies of China, Lieutenant Alexei Zakharovich Dushin from the squadron of Captain A.S. Blagoveshchensky, who had already won one victory in battle, also tried to ram a Japanese car. However, the Japanese pilot managed to dodge in time. "
          So it is, or not so - it is on the conscience of the authors of this book
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 13: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Rich
            So it is, or not so - it is on the conscience of the authors of this book


            in two years, 37-39, 8 rams were made - 2 by the Japanese and 3 by the Chinese and Soviet "volunteers". It is difficult to understand which of them was an unintentional collision and which was a deliberate ram. We can judge all of them by the interpretation of propaganda. It is simply customary to consider all collisions in the air as a ram, including piloting errors.
      4. Doliva63
        Doliva63 31 May 2020 18: 39 New
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        Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
        still does not automatically make him Ukrainian ...


        Lev Zakharovich Shuster was the first of the Soviet "volunteers" to ram a month before Gubenko. He was born in Perm. This does not automatically make it Russian, of course))

        It is interesting, but what makes, for example, Bellingshausen a Russian navigator?
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 20: 42 New
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          the same as Levitan - a Russian artist.
      5. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 2 June 2020 15: 46 New
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        Of course does not.
        Like a surname ending in "ko" does not make anyone Ukrainian. LukashenCo will not let you lie.

        1908, Donbass, what nafig Ukraine? They just started to force it as a geographical term in the AB empire for the rural intelligentsia of their eastern outskirts under the name "Galicia", and even then they spied on it from the Poles.
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 2 June 2020 15: 49 New
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          I do not care. I said that I don’t understand why the hell to focus on this.
          1. AllBiBek
            AllBiBek 2 June 2020 15: 52 New
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            When there are no achievements to be proud of, they are proud of what is not taken away. Nationality, and skin color. And the whole crowd, knocked down on this basis.

            This is normal. There is enough other pithecanthropus haplogroup for this, and do not care that the nuclear and mitochondrial are not distinguished.
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 1 June 2020 13: 54 New
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      For me, he was and remains a Soviet patriot
  3. Fitter65
    Fitter65 31 May 2020 06: 36 New
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    the pilot hung upside down on parachute belts.

    WAAAAH! A masterpiece !!! Although on the other hand, it’s good even if not on tethered slings laughing
    1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
      Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 31 May 2020 08: 25 New
      -1
      I think this is just a typo! ...
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 31 May 2020 09: 33 New
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        Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        I think this is just a typo! ...

        That's when my neighbor jumped out on a family of wild boars, and the gun was in the car, or when my friend and I went out of a turn in Uktura (a river in the Far East) and there two keta bears are eating, this was just a slip laughing slight fright laughing good drinks And this
        the pilot hung upside down on parachute belts.
        technical illiteracy
      2. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 10: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        just a typo! ...


        Come on. Do you really believe this pretentious syrup about the "son of the divine wind", the admiration of the Japanese, delight in the press? The Japanese Kashimura rammed the Chinese curtiss back in December 37, why should the Japanese be so excited about the ramming of the Soviet pilot? Before him, two Chinese and one Soviet pilot used a ram. They were also called "sons of the wind" and "Chinese kamikaze"? Or how?
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 31 May 2020 07: 33 New
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    When I read material about the Sino-Japanese conflict, I certainly met this surname and ram, but it was not indicated there that he was the first. Thanks to the author.
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 10: 54 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      but it did not indicate that he was the first.


      but he was not.
  5. Fitter65
    Fitter65 31 May 2020 08: 41 New
    +5
    Quote: Olgovich
    By the way, who knows what kind of "aerospace troops" are in the 1938 poster posted at the beginning of the article?

    For those who are on an armored train, a 1938 poster was posted on the website of the Central Officers Club of the Russian Aerospace Forces, so the inscription appeared at the top aerospace troops, there they also have other pre-war photos and posters with such an inscription, well, it will be hard for you to understand this because of the way you say
    Quote: Olgovich
    ignorance.

    hi laughing laughing laughing
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 31 May 2020 10: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Fitter65
      The 1938 poster was posted on the website of the Central Officers Club of the Russian Aerospace Forces

      CSC VKS has released a calendar, that's all.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 31 May 2020 10: 21 New
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        Quote: bober1982
        CSC VKS has released a calendar, that's all.

        Well, it was just hard for someone to find the original, but someone wanted to "shine" with their intellect.
  6. Dr. Frankenstucker
    Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 10: 28 New
    +2
    became a ram on May 31, 1938. This event made an indelible impression on the Japanese themselves, who christened the ramming pilot "Russian Kamikaze",


    bravura article, exactly for Yandex.Zen) But they agreed to that garbage dump that the Stalinist falcons taught the Japanese the tactics of kamikaze. laughing
    On December 9, 1937, Kashimura rammed a Chinese curtiss hawk. What did he sit miraculously. And he became a national hero.


    February 18, 38th - Chinese comrade Ding Chen rams a Japanese on an I-15 during a raid on Formosa

    April 29, 38th - Jr. Huaymin over Hankou, during a Japanese raid on Mikado's birthday, being surrounded by 5 Japanese, he rammed "head to head" with his I-15.

    And, by the way, on the same day, April 29, a month before Gubenko's "kamikaze", a Soviet pilot with the non-title name Shuster rammed it. Lev Zakharovich, unfortunately, died. OBKZ posthumously.

    well, and the "famous" ram on August 19 of the 37th Chinese pilot with a surname that will be censored here when he sent his Northrop Gamma to the cruiser Izumo in the Hanzhou Bay. However, this, I think, is a spirit-lifting myth, since old Izumo lived until 1945.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 31 May 2020 21: 07 New
      +1
      Thank you for not the opposite, otherwise there will be especially gifted people who will write like: "Stalin's falcons" learned from the Japanese
  7. Fitter65
    Fitter65 31 May 2020 10: 44 New
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    Quote: Free Wind
    And many were saved, and this is fraught with execution for them, here your lie.

    Not many, but few. Just one space ... By the way, very well underlined by the boy's gesture in the movie "Schindler's List". So much for general development
    On July 10, 1941, in the village of Edvabne, the Poles committed a brutal pogrom of Jews, killing several hundred people, and burned the rest alive. More than 1500 Jews, including women and children, died in Edwabna

    Saved ... many ... almost all ... from Majdanek and Auschwitz hi
    1. Operator
      Operator 31 May 2020 14: 06 New
      +2
      It was not a pogrom, but a massacre. The same thing happened in at least 24 settlements of western Belarus and Ukraine with a mixed Polish-Jewish population immediately after leaving parts of the Red Army in June-July 1941.

      Since 1939, Poles took an initiative in trapping Polish Jews in the territory of the Governor General of the Third Reich, and after being liberated from German occupation in 1945, they carried out pogroms in the places of residence of Jews returning from exile. Since 1948, a state policy was carried out to expel Polish Jews to the state of Israel.

      After the extermination of Jews in 1941 on the border territories, the Poles took up the Belarusians and Ukrainians, which ended in 1943 with the return massacre of the Poles. Bilateral genocide stopped only after the resettlement of the Poles from the border regions to the west, and of Belarusians and Ukrainians to the east in 1947.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 31 May 2020 14: 43 New
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        Quote: Operator
        Since 1939, the Poles took an initiative in trapping Polish Jews in the territory of the Governor General of the Third Reich,

        After all, they still saved Jews from the crematoriums of Auschwitz-Birkenau hi I apologize
        from innocently perished at the hands of the German executioners and their Polish assistants. They destroyed them themselves, and then the USSR and the present RF were equated to Hitler's Germany, Yes, in the USSR during its entire existence, fewer Jews died by natural death than the "oppressed" Poles killed helping the Nazis from September 1939 to 1944, I do not take calculation post-war pogroms ...
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 31 May 2020 16: 01 New
          +1
          I apologize, but it seems to me that it’s not right to reduce everything to nationality. It seems to me here and class affiliation is important. He was a Polish fist, had to become a collective farmer, who is to blame? Of course, Russians, Jews, Communists. He was a landowner, bent all, had to hide, who is to blame? After independence, in the Baltic States announced the return of property to former owners. So thousands were pulled from abroad. Now tell me who chased and killed. I think offended at the USSR, but omitted. And ordinary people helped. Although it was dangerous. And the partisans or scouts were unlikely to go to the richest house in the village to question the situation.
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 31 May 2020 16: 25 New
            -1
            Quote: Free Wind
            I apologize, but it seems to me that it’s not right to reduce everything to nationality.

            You know, but here you are right how I live. There was no nationality or class, there were some landlords at the landowner, they bent down, came the advice of the landlords bent ... Here of course you can
            discuss for a long time. But that and how they did not talk about the October Revolution, because this is equal to the Petrine reforms! Remember how under Peter I Russia jumped into the list of great countries and what did it become under his descendant Kolyun2? And how the country for less than 25 years was able to set up factories and bring up people so that they were ready to give their life if only the country lived and was ...
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  9. Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 31 May 2020 17: 39 New
    +4
    The article is interesting, but the name is unsuccessful. It is not worth calling the Soviet hero pilot by such a word as “kamikaze,” even in quotation marks,.
    Kamikaze is a zombie suicide bomber, Gubenko doesn’t fit this definition, and I doubt very much that the Japanese called him that.

    First, the Japanese only got kamikaze in late 1944, when Vice Admiral Onisi Takijiro, the commander of the first air fleet in the Philippines, proposed the creation of combat units for suicide bombers. He called them "simpu tokubetsu kogekitai", which means "divisions of the divine wind." but not "kamikaze" - the word was invented by the Americans.
    Secondly, the so-called pilots who attacked warships.
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 17: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Green
      but the name is unsuccessful.


      idiotic name, frankly)

      Quote: Alexander Green
      I doubt very much that the Japanese called him that.


      of course they didn't. I suspect that they did not even know his last name, since Soviet "volunteers" fought under pseudonyms and their participation was not advertised either by us or by the Kuomintang. And the passage about the fact that the Japanese went into ecstasy from his ramming and trumpeted something in the press ... and even calling it "kamikaze" is absolutely outrageous nonsense.
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 31 May 2020 20: 48 New
        +1
        "utterly outrageous nonsense", but it sounds impressive.
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 22: 09 New
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          Quote: Astra wild
          but it sounds spectacular.


          but in my opinion, one must be a complete idiot to compose such nonsense.
          1. Alexander Greene
            Alexander Greene 31 May 2020 22: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
            but in my opinion, one must be a complete idiot to compose such nonsense.

            The farther from the war, the more fables.
            1. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 22: 22 New
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              but why??? WHAT FOR??
              why are these stupid lace? Myth-making (well, where without it?), You know, must also be elegant, talented ... or, at least, not nauseating. Like these passages about kamikaze and the world press. Eh ...
  10. vladcub
    vladcub 31 May 2020 20: 00 New
    +3
    I have not heard of this pilot. For some reason we have "distortions" in history: at one time, contemporaries knew and admired, but we "safely" forgot.
    For example: we will be able to recall a lot of Russian pilots during the WWI, except for Nesterov, and fighter pilots of the 30s.
    "The Soviet Union sent the best and most trained combat pilots to China," probably, they were marked with government awards and their names flashed on the pages of newspapers, and now we have forgotten about them.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 1 June 2020 01: 58 New
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      My comment on you, Vladislav, went below. I want to add. There is a wonderful article on VO in 2013. STALIN FALCONS IN CHINA. Author --- Samsonov. The data in the article was rare and then many resources reprinted it.
  11. Astra wild
    Astra wild 31 May 2020 20: 45 New
    +2
    Colleagues, do not be offended, but what the hell did you start a silly debate about hunting.
    Olgovich probably did not get enough sleep and provoked a stupid argument, and you are glad to try
    If you haven’t forgotten, we’re talking about the first Soviet pilot to ram.
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 31 May 2020 22: 26 New
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      Quote: Astra wild
      about the first Soviet pilot to ram


      Yes, not the first.
      The first was, if I am not mistaken, Stepanov in Spain in October 37th. I could be wrong, I do not argue.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 1 June 2020 01: 30 New
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      Quote: Astra wild
      Colleagues, do not be offended, but what the hell did you start a silly debate about hunting.
      Olgovich probably did not get enough sleep and provoked a stupid argument, and you are glad to try
      If you haven’t forgotten, we’re talking about the first Soviet pilot to ram.
      good good
      I’m scared with your comments! Yesterday I got angry for the same thing !!!!!! I wanted to scold everyone --- I could hardly restrain myself! I did not find decent words! He wanted to wicked everyone viciously ---- the tablet began to hang ..... scolded all the flood makers to himself. But Olgovich just that! And what about vegetables!
  12. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 1 June 2020 01: 52 New
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    And I’ll say why I didn’t hear it, Vladislav! I didn’t write about how we helped China and Spain at that time for a wide range of readers. Although there was literature, reports, for specialists. Their names did not flash anywhere! Everything is a secret. Stalin knew that war was approaching. Somehow it was necessary to gain experience.
    On the topic of China --- in this century, the books of Demin. Only in this century is a large thick book for the first time with all surnames, ranks, participation in hostilities
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 1 June 2020 11: 28 New
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      This is not entirely true: yes, the Soviet Union did not advertise the aid, although it was an open secret, the names of the recipients were published. Then there was a special wording: "for the successful completion of a special task of the government."
      As for Soviet aid to China, there were quite a few publications on this topic, but when Soviet-Chinese relations deteriorated, such publications became therefore undesirable. There is a book by Okorokov: "Russian trace in" Celestial Empire ", all the materials of the" boxing uprising "are collected there.