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Defilers of war memorials in Russia: facts and reaction

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Defilers of war memorials in Russia: facts and reaction

Fry the barbecue on the Eternal Flame, boil water in a bucket at the memorial to the fallen soldiers, arrange the shooting of a dance clip at a military grave. All these are episodes of how individual fellow citizens openly try to abuse the memory of the heroic past, of the Great Victory over Nazism.


Saying that all these episodes are “taken out of context”, that they are “purely random”, that these are just “youth jokes” and that all this should be taken calmly, cannot be defined.

The fact is that these modern vandals do not just desecrate the Eternal Flame as a symbol of memory, they also give an occasion to the “friends of Russia” to once again make statements of this nature: “You blame the head of the Prague-6 district for dismantling the monument to Marshal Konev, but look what’s going on with you. ”

In such a situation, the answer and reaction are unequivocal: all manifestations of barbarism at war memorials are closely watched by law enforcement agencies. In contrast to a number of countries of "enlightened" Europe, all these persons sooner or later come to light and become persons involved in cases. They do not remain without punishment. Often they, already apologizing, face the camera.



This is an unshakable rule, which should be remembered by those who are still going to arrange a provocation at the Great Patriotic War memorial in one or another Russian city.

The problem and what is connected with it are described in NTV material "Fallen against the fallen."
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  1. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 30 May 2020 17: 07 New
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    "Fry the barbecue on the Eternal Flame, boil water in a bucket at the memorial to the fallen soldiers, arrange the shooting of a dance clip at a military burial"
    - all the same .. must be done with those who allow themselves .. mock the military obelisks, and burial ..
    1. Aleksandr56478
      Aleksandr56478 30 May 2020 17: 12 New
      12
      that's right, I would add to this: dance a striptease dance in the form of the Second World War period, stick a moronic sticker in the style of “We can repeat it!” on the car, throw out the portrait from the “Immortal Regiment” action in the trash.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 30 May 2020 17: 27 New
        -4
        Quote: Aleksandr56478
        that's right, I would add to this: dance a striptease dance in the form of the Second World War period, stick a moronic sticker in the style of “We can repeat it!” on the car, throw out the portrait from the “Immortal Regiment” action in the trash.

        Now the liberal democrats (and homegrown, such as Gozman belay and K, and from outside) will begin to be indignant ... they say, this ... is not advisable ..., not humane ..., this is a scientific problem ... "they are children" ...
        How many more of these enemies to listen to?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 30 May 2020 17: 55 New
          12
          In 1986, under the leadership of the "charity" Soros Foundation, a liberal "restructuring" of school education in the USSR began in our country.
          The skirmishers were the teachers themselves, who were distraught by the possibilities of paid and uncontrolled education in the country that had opened before them in a stupid way.

          At the same time, education with teachers turned into a service for parents, and the upbringing of schoolchildren simply fell out of the scope of the teacher as a teacher at all.
          The teacher corps then turned into the worst-known gray mass for their Fatherland.

          In moral terms, at that time only the old teachers of the Soviet school were worthily fulfilling their teaching duty!
          And young teachers turned into mercantile rumblers and historical-anti-Russian nonsense!
          I remember, I was still wondering where the conscience of the teacher’s corps had gone ?!
          1. stalki
            stalki 30 May 2020 18: 11 New
            +4
            The skirmishers were the teachers themselves, who were distraught by the possibilities of paid and uncontrolled education in the country that had opened before them in a stupid way.
            Cool, blame everything on the teachers, and min.obraz. here of course nothing to do with it? You’ll roll a barrel into the brazen teachers, aren’t you ashamed to carry such nonsense? Of course, teachers ruined the system, managers have nothing to do with it. Mommies just now understood what a teacher’s work is, provided that the teacher teaches several classes with dozens of students, and mummies can’t cope with two, three savoys. Have you worked in education? If they worked, they would not carry such nonsense.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 30 May 2020 18: 24 New
              +2
              Firstly. I'm not talking about today's corps of teachers, but about the perestroika years and the beginning of the 1990s.
              Secondly. If I talk about this, then I know what I'm talking about.
              Before my eyes, all this happened in the late 1980s and 1990s. And I do not have a reverence for the modern mercantile-selling teacher corps, because I know the teachers well - as flaky. I had to write more than one examination of school reforms. And not one teacher had to check the quality of his work with students during the lessons.
              So do not be ashamed of me for the truth, uterus!
              1. stalki
                stalki 30 May 2020 18: 33 New
                +4
                I know the system from the inside. Such experts as how can you know about the learning process, have you taught at school for at least a couple of years? Anyone who himself did not work in the field, did not try on this profession, cannot give any ratings. I meet with such high-minded opinions in life very often. They didn’t slurp, but they know everything better than those who are on the transfer. Do you know what fiction system exists by academic performance from directors of schools and district committees? And all this is seasoned with the concealment of senior officials.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 30 May 2020 18: 50 New
                  +2
                  Yes, I know the school and the teaching staff from the inside! I have a pedagogical and psychological education in the framework of graduate school.
                  Too bad some of you mid year for a blatant marriage in work not to be kicked out of school, a replacement is simply hard to find in the middle of the year. And such questions have arisen more than once.
                  Quote: stalki
                  I meet with such high-minded opinions in life very often.
                  There would be no reason - would not have met!

                  Parents, as a rule, want only good things for their children and have high hopes for their children's teachers. They even cajole in front of a teacher who is only misbehaving for a lagging child, so that he would be able to get rid of such a student! There was nothing like this in the old Soviet school.

                  I don’t know what you are teaching and how - maybe you are a Golden teacher, but it’s not reasonable and wrong for you to defend the “uniform uniform” for the entire teaching corps!
                  1. stalki
                    stalki 30 May 2020 19: 01 New
                    +3
                    It is a pity that not a single teacher will go against the directors, would you look like tears when the director on the side of the middle mother with two classes of education openly humiliates the teaching staff. And apparently you did not teach. You are such experts green dime a dozen, but the point is, such as you system and lynched. Previously, the teacher was an authority and everyone listened to him, now the parents of the 90s have authority and directors along with rono, just to not lose their place. Teachers filled up with a heap of papers, hung electronic documentation on it, they are not allowed to make objective assessments, they pay pennies, experts pour all kinds of dirt on methods and didactics. Methodists walk fingers bend. You work directly in the system, take a sip of modern childish impudence without ideology and upbringing, and then evaluate it. We invariably have one thing in Russia, the barbarism of higher-ranking individuals who do not know the subject from the inside, but allow themselves to teach teachers. Education in profile, gives nothing but a theory that crumbles to smithereens in real conditions.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 30 May 2020 19: 12 New
                      +2
                      Quote: stalki
                      Previously, the teacher was an authority and everyone listened to him, now the parents of the 90s have authority and directors along with rono, just to not lose their place.

                      And I said, I warned teachers about this, that it will be so. But they were in the late 1980s, as they say, incurred a bit of a bite! Teachers said in the eye that they also want to receive salaries at their workplace, as owners in cooperatives! And for this they themselves absolutely did not represent anything at all.
                      But in the elections to the Election Committees, teachers cheated in an honorable way in favor of the liberals and Yeltsin!
                      Teachers have no mind - and never will.
                      1. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 30 May 2020 23: 48 New
                        +5
                        Sorry to interfere in your conversation, but it’s strange for me: what is your pedagogical and psychological education, if you wrote the word “muhEvali” with such a gross mistake. I can’t write down the wrong key, the letter keys " e "and" and "are far from each other and on different lines of the clave. If offended - sorry, but I can’t think of anything else.
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 31 May 2020 00: 44 New
                        +1
                        Yes, the check is a swindle.
                        Well, I wrote - they cheated - and what of this? I’m not teaching Russian here! I don’t think about grammar with an automatic machine, but I only think about the content and rush until the window closes. And then you do not have time to finish the comment, and the window has already stalled and closed. And the typed long text is lost - start all over again. Because of this, I don’t respond to many comments, because I’m just tired of typing hastily several times. You spit on the samples and involuntarily leave the participant unanswered.

                        Here is the same.
                        Quote: stalki
                        Unreasonableso insulting stavit question.
                        I don’t find fault with the mistakes in the words of another teacher! I don’t pay attention to these things at all. Since I myself do not have time to read and verify what was written in order to correct the text and correct it. It will be the same with you.
                      3. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 31 May 2020 04: 28 New
                        +4
                        Strange ... how can a window close? I calmly give all comments, always check and manage everything. I can even print comments and leave the case for 5-10 minutes and then continue without any problems.
                      4. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 31 May 2020 09: 50 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                        Strange ... how can a window close?

                        Easily and quite quickly. Sometimes you do not have time to type seven lines, or even less. But this does not always happen.
                        If you're fluent in typing and typing fast, you are in luck. Unfortunately, I do not own the blind typing method.
                      5. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 31 May 2020 11: 35 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                        Strange ... how can a window close?

                        Easily and quite quickly. Sometimes you do not have time to type seven lines, or even less. But this does not always happen ....

                        It also depends on the company of your device and quality, and on its service life. And from the time of his work today and now ....
                        While they are brand new --- they obey, and then they behave more wayward ....
                      6. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 31 May 2020 18: 40 New
                        +3
                        My laptop is about 6 years old, and my husband has a laptop for over 10 years. However, we have never encountered such a problem. True, every year we give them to the workshop for prevention. They clean them there, if necessary - they change something. My husband changed the keyboard a couple of times - he has work connected with the computer, so he sits at it almost all the time, letters are erased, they start to type poorly. Well, there’s some more work, I’m not good at it. My husband has a DY laptop, an Intel processor. I have ACER, also with intel. The laptops are not very expensive, without any frills, but they are hard workers, which is what we need. Therefore, it is strange for me that Tatyana wrote.
                      7. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 31 May 2020 19: 13 New
                        +1
                        It’s even weirder and more offensive when the window closes, when I wrote a big comment and just wanted to send it, but it’s whack! Sometimes it turns out to return. smile As Tatyana wrote ---- not everyone can answer. I try to answer, but briefly for the same reason.
                        It turns out that for some reason it is difficult to write a big comment in the evening. Or so the network works.
                        But there are still tablets and mobile phones in people. Good evening, Lyuba.
                      8. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 31 May 2020 21: 28 New
                        +4
                        But if you do it differently: print a comment in a draft, and then transfer it to where you want it? It's very fast and there will be no such problems. Or will it fail too? You can still keep the WORD program turned on, a very useful thing.
                        And good evening to you.
                      9. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 1 June 2020 01: 15 New
                        0
                        Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                        And if you do it differently: print the comment in a draft, and then transfer it .......
                        some of us do something like this, but then they have some other problems, it doesn’t suit me for another reason, ... somehow I had a long conversation with one kammrad on this topic .... . Someone doesn’t get quotes, (I don’t always have) ....
                        .
                      10. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 1 June 2020 06: 34 New
                        +2
                        I don’t know how to insert quotes from the comments I am responding to. Thanks to those to whom I answer, they always understand me. Well, apparently, I'm just lucky with the windows. And yet it is a pity that many have such a problem. I like to read comments on this site, they are sometimes no less interesting and informative than those articles that comment.
                        And yes, good morning and good day!
                      11. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 1 June 2020 12: 00 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                        I don’t know how to insert quotes from comments,

                        This is done very simply. Namely.
                        1. Click "Reply." A field has opened for the text of your comment.
                        2. In the commentary of the participant you are quoting, highlight the quote of the participant you need, as for copying.
                        3. Click "Quote" under the comment of the participant you are quoting, and the quote will appear in the field of your comment as:
                        [quote ....]And yes, good morning and good day![/ Quote]
                        (Highlighted in bold.)

                        Another way.
                        Immediately p. 3. The entire text of the comment of the participant you want to quote appears.
                        4. Remove from the text of the commentary of the participant everything superfluous between the brackets [quote ....] And [/ b] [/ quote], which cannot be changed!
                        Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                        And yes, good morning and good day!

                        Same to you!
                      12. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 1 June 2020 12: 12 New
                        +2
                        Thank you for the detailed explanation. I will try. Good luck And health to you and those who are dear to you.
                      13. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 2 June 2020 04: 43 New
                        +1
                        Tried to write yesterday ---- windows were closing. So yesterday and did not write.
                        Good morning hi
                      14. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 2 June 2020 07: 09 New
                        0
                        Maybe it depends on the speed of Ineta?

                        And good morning to you, good day and good evening.
                      15. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 2 June 2020 07: 52 New
                        0
                        Not in my case.
                        Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                        Maybe it depends on the speed of Ineta

                        Since I do not always write from home. But even the houses with self-isolation of all and a remote place in an apartment building ------ became noticeably worse.
                        For example, emoticons --- I wanted to do hi now, ------- ami it turned out. Deleted.
                        And often it happens. Eye yes eye!
                      16. Lyuba1965_01
                        Lyuba1965_01 2 June 2020 17: 19 New
                        +1
                        Well, I don’t know .... when we have a low speed, comments just go bad and sites open poorly. But if it opens, then everything is fine, it will not close. And this despite the fact that my husband and I are sitting on the same account. It happens that I don’t have the right website open, and I ask him to go to sleep, and vice versa. But the Internet is good at work, though I work alone, but there is nobody else.
  • stalki
    stalki 30 May 2020 19: 12 New
    +3
    It is unreasonable, so offensively poses a question. How did you do it. There are many problems, but they are mainly solved by the teacher, and not by the management team. Tsarkov divorced a lot. Continuity lost. Practice lost. Teachers are those who have not found themselves in another industry. Ask yourself why? That's when you answer it, then dismiss if conscience is enough. The system was broken down.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 30 May 2020 19: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: stalki
      It is unreasonable, so offensive to raise the question. How did you do it.

      And what is unreasonable? A whole generation of schoolchildren in the worldview of such “Sorovskiy” teachers in the country has already grown!
      What exactly should we expect from some of their pupils from this generation and their children about patriotism?
      This is called the systemic gaps in education and upbringing in the country - USSR / RF - according to Soros.
      Quote: stalki
      There are many problems, but they are mainly solved by the teacher, and not by the management team. Tsarkov divorced a lot. Continuity lost. Practice lost. Teachers are those who have not found themselves in another industry.
      Here I agree with you. There are really many problems.
      But the fault of the teaching staff of the late 1980s and 1990s is this, and no one has canceled it.
      I understand that the teachers themselves have forgiven themselves for the people, for their Fatherland, and have forgotten about it, but the people remember everything!
      And this, alas, is not going anywhere!
      1. stalki
        stalki 30 May 2020 19: 37 New
        +5
        Why are you so stubbornly accusing teachers that you can’t understand, the fish rots from your head, who destroyed the system? Ordinary teacher changed the system of assessments and quality control? Ordinary teacher, cut funding for education? Is a simple teacher guilty of the quality of higher education that he must get before taking on these kids? Did this ordinary person exclude the element of upbringing and ideology from the system? This is prescribed in the constitution. The teacher writes the consistency and determines the vector methods, is he remaking the standards?
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 30 May 2020 19: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: stalki
        Why are you so stubbornly accusing teachers that you can’t understand, the fish rots from your head, who destroyed the system? Ordinary teacher changed the system of assessments and quality control? Ordinary teacher, cut funding for education? Is a simple teacher guilty of the quality of higher education that he must get before taking on these kids? Did this ordinary person exclude the element of upbringing and ideology from the system?

        The fact of the matter is that it all began precisely with the indifference to the profession by ordinary teachers! With the strikes of teachers in the same St. Petersburg in 1989! The school principals understood everything and were just against it!
        And this was also reinforced by the pilot project of the Education-90 teacher’s corps, compiled by the teachers themselves, divorced from real production life and the situation in the country. A pilot project that was supposed to be distributed throughout the country.
        I personally wrote an examination on him. - and the project failed.
        At the same time, I personally talked with teachers - its designers. And then the teachers themselves were smart enough to recognize their project as harmful and abandon it.
      3. stalki
        stalki 30 May 2020 20: 03 New
        +5
        Normaloo, the country could barely make ends meet through the fault of someone you know, and the teachers are guilty of forgetting about them. Wow! There was no will at a leadership level, and when there is no will there is no one to make a decision. Who should steer a ship, a teacher or something? laughing laughing laughing Well, you made me laugh, thanks.
      4. Tatyana
        Tatyana 30 May 2020 20: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: stalki
        So normalaloo, the country could barely make ends meet through the fault you know who, and the teachers are to blame for forgetting about them

        The authorities didn’t forget about teachers in those years, but fed them a 40-80% increase in salaries and other privileges. And the teachers of the then new government of the country's liquidators servilely served. Naturally, in their own mercantile interests.
        It was then about the privatization of schools, about the separation of school education from the state. About the introduction of paid education, starting from high school - i.e. about payment after graduating from elementary school. About OPTIMIZATION of school programs - namely: reduction of school subjects and the number of hours on them. Etc.
      5. stalki
        stalki 30 May 2020 21: 23 New
        +1
        Well, of course, they have not forgotten. And I don’t remember, who are you telling this to? You can rub this to your parents. In some schools, astrology was introduced into subjects, physics was removed altogether. Chemistry was taught by obzhig, and mathematicians were forced to interrupt with tutoring in order to feed their children. Pseudo-lyceums began to be made from schools from the filing of directors, because they had to keep the composition and feed. Who started to run away. I agree, there were private schools where money was found, everyone rushed there. And certainly not the teachers brought it all up. And the reduction of programs is still coming around. This is all the result of an illiterate policy of the state and only the then cabinet of administration is to blame for the collapse of the Soviet education. And now it’s power to hand, a dull herd is easier to manage. No one ever asks teachers for anything. They are given only instructions.
      6. Tatyana
        Tatyana 30 May 2020 21: 37 New
        +3
        Dear Sergey! And at that time, who ruled all this, if not the teacher deputies ?!
        But they reflected the opinion of the entire teacher corps both on the line (in schools) and in power from top to bottom!
        No need to whitewash the teacher corps of the "perestroika" and "privatization" times!
        It was they who brought up as an example a new younger generation as they were then morally decomposed themselves!
        They are to blame - and that’s it! They sold for "cookies" to Soros and the liberal government.
        And now we have what we have.
      7. stalki
        stalki 30 May 2020 22: 09 New
        +1
        There is no need to interfere with the circles of power and the common people, especially at that time, the teachers were not sold to anyone, you don’t need to pour dirt when you swell head over heels in this. I don’t just whitewash teachers, I know that I’m 200% right. What kind of cookies? You with such cheap arguments go to the outskirts, there you just "tear". It was the lack of funding for educational symptoms and the drain of the best personnel that provoked this collapse. The ministry of education (cultural reformation, constitutional change) is to blame for this. Naturally, the cabinet of power that was then located now. That's all, you don’t have to go far and you don’t need to look for those to blame.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 31 May 2020 11: 26 New
    0
    Respect, Tatyana! hi
    ...... I .... wrote an examination and the project did not pass .....
    nevertheless, any stupidity and sabotage still crawled into schools. And the project would have passed ---- generally a madhouse fool would be. 90s --- my school.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 31 May 2020 11: 20 New
    +1
    Yes, Tatyana hi I remember in the 90s, the teacher said that the holidays are only for the church. And nothing else. True, then her parents took care and removed her.
    Half of the teachers cherished the USSR, but the other half taught in Soviet style.
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 31 May 2020 11: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Half of the teachers cherished the USSR, but the other half taught in Soviet style.

    In St. Petersburg during the late Gorbachev and under Yeltsin it was worse!
    Against teachers' strikes for a 2-fold increase in their salaries, while workers in factories and factories were not paid salaries for several months in a row, and they still continued to work, city-wide strikes began to take place against school teachers who thought only of themselves and they said to the parents of the students: “We are leaving school at 14 o’clock - there’s nothing in the stores! We have to buy all the products on the market at market prices!”
    And this despite the fact that, unlike the production workers, teachers were paid regularly and could eat fully at a discount — breakfast and lunch — in school canteens! And the children of the production workers didn’t eat up at home at all - in the production families the children turned gray at home only onions and potatoes. They came to school pale and cyanotic, thin! It was a pity to look at them. And the orphanages were face-full, well-fed, dressed, felt "elitist" and were domestic children.
    And at the same time, for all these teachers fully supported the liberals and anti-Soviet people in the country and wholeheartedly despised the production workers.
    In our school, only the director and old cadres were against teacher strikes - 2-3 people out of 70 teaching staff.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 31 May 2020 12: 42 New
    +2
    Thanks for the answer, Tatyana! Naturally, he didn’t know anything about teachers. In the 92m in the spring they moved to a new apartment. And a year earlier, they returned to Leningrad with the Far East.
    In the fall of the 92nd I went to a completely new school, everything is new, even then there was no tram to the house from the metro, there was a carriage. Probably, somehow the parents took care of the children, so that everything new and wrong would not concern them. True, later the children began to talk about what was happening. Childish, of course.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 31 May 2020 13: 02 New
    +2
    I decided to continue my comment. I remember the contours in the 91st, 92nd, 93rd stores for groceries, my grandmother took with her, they gave me a person. There were fights in stores. do not give to children !!! such cries. Mom came in the evening ---- brought some groceries, brought cereals, then she worked in different districts in the city, she managed to buy something a little. Perhaps then they began to go to the vegetable base and they took me and I was unhappy. And then there was a food market on Sennaya, it is already without me. I remember. It was some kind of wildness. Sometimes I see a movie. Such markets then became many and everywhere the same.
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 31 May 2020 13: 28 New
    +4
    My cousin's wife worked at a poultry farm. Salaries to employees were given by hens and eggs. The eggs were huge - already, with two yolks in an egg! And with the sale of the enterprise was a complete failure! Shops under Gorbachev did not take goods. So the boss and gave out wages to workers with chickens and eggs. But at the same time, it’s good that such a salary was possible for people to sell too much to acquaintances and exchange for something that was also needed. But for the salary given to employees, for example, you don’t really feed yourself with nails!
    The shortage of products at that time was artificial and sanctioned by Gorbachev

    USSR: Commodity shortage (video chronicle 1989-91)
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 31 May 2020 14: 42 New
    +1
    You can’t even imagine what it was like, Tatyana. Decay, decay. Just tin ---- Transmission. Moreover, there were not enough products.
    And the Baltic states. .... and officials ....... and there seems to be a kindergarten on Primorsky ..... But for sure ---- There is a child’s house on Primorsky. Near the Kirov market used to work, but did not go there .....
    And about the salary that was given out by the products ---- I remember. Thus, as a result of the "exchange chain", we got a telephone (a scarce item then). And eggs and hens ----- this is very cool. I remember the conversations that someone was given a salary by sofas ......
  • val43
    val43 1 June 2020 10: 59 New
    -2
    Quote: Tatiana
    The authorities didn’t forget about the teachers in those years, but fed them a 40-80% increase in salaries and other privileges.

    What ???? I worked at school from 1989 to 1992. For three years, the salary has not increased by a penny. Of the privileges - only the ability to work hard from morning to night and on weekends. Tatyana, what planet are you from?
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 1 June 2020 12: 25 New
    +2
    Either your memory is short, or you have been fooled by local authorities in places in the outback.
    There was a decree of Sobchak in St. Petersburg on increasing salaries to teachers of St. Petersburg by 40%.
    Following him in a month - Yeltsin’s decree on increasing salaries to teachers of the Russian Federation by 40%. After which the decree of Sobchak was not canceled. TOTAL in St. Petersburg, the increase in teacher salaries was 40 + 40 = 80 (%).
  • val43
    val43 2 June 2020 08: 22 New
    -3
    Yes, Tatyana, cool ... Judging by St. Petersburg about the salaries of teachers throughout the USSR (and 89-91 is the USSR) - this should be able to. Judging by what you read, in other school aspects you are at about the same level: you take a separate fact and draw far-reaching conclusions on its basis.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 31 May 2020 00: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    I have a pedagogical and psychological education in the framework of graduate school.


    Well, to indiscriminately blame all the teachers ... Do you seriously consider these dummies a serious education? To be honest?
  • for
    for 30 May 2020 20: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    under the direction of the "charity" Soros Foundation

    Soros is to blame OUR TEACHERS began to teach.
    A prostitute is punished, not the one who pays her.
    1. val43
      val43 1 June 2020 11: 27 New
      -2
      Yes, there is always someone to blame for these: not Soros, so the State Department, not the State Department, so cookies, but they stand aside and wipe their feet on the teachers ...
  • Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 1 June 2020 16: 06 New
    +1
    Apparently conscience failed in the ballot box with the throwing of left ballots
  • Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb 30 May 2020 18: 04 New
    +8
    I propose sentencing defilers of military (and not only) memorials to community service:

    - sewer cleaning (sewage disposal);
    - work in hospitals (patient care as orderlies);
    - agricultural work.

    I think that they need good occupational therapy!
  • Terenin
    Terenin 30 May 2020 20: 21 New
    -1
    Quote: Terenin
    Now the liberal democrats (and homegrown, such as Gozman

    I see Gozman and Company on the alert winked . "thank you" for the service crying
  • Terenin
    Terenin 30 May 2020 17: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: Atlant-1164
    - all the same .. must be done with those who allow themselves .. mock the military obelisks, and burial ..

    I, too, am already old to agitate for the education of the young ... Only to punish and harshly. "Nuts must be tightened" as a lot more "paint under the thread"
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 30 May 2020 17: 26 New
      14
      It was necessary to educate such "Ivanes who do not remember kinship" when they lay across the bench, and now they only have to punish them themselves to engage in obscenity, and others shouldn’t be punished. It is hard to punish.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 30 May 2020 18: 42 New
        10
        Quote: Crowe
        Hard to punish.

        I am struck by the vagueness of phrases, the mismatch of the impact on the gravity of the misconduct. If these geeks cannot even understand the essence of the phenomenon (and this is akin to betrayal in wartime), what can be explained to them by the usual administrative punishment? It is likely that precisely for such things you need to mercilessly, publicly flog with rods. With the appropriate knowledge of the business and the verified tool. Everyone should see their shame (so that it’s not disastrous) ...
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 30 May 2020 19: 21 New
    -3
    -
    Quote: Atlant-1164
    "Fry the barbecue on the Eternal Flame, boil water in a bucket at the memorial to the fallen soldiers, arrange the shooting of a dance clip at a military burial"

    In Ukraine, soapy, it all started exactly the same ..... Shish kebab - scrambled eggs on an eternal bonfire, stamping flags, desecrating monuments, graves in cemeteries, shouting slogans ... and away we go ... And now now they are trying to rrrr Russia here. .. Do not wipe yourself, as in Ukrainian soapy, do not shut up, give change, maybe even too much. Throw the bastards to dust!
    1. val43
      val43 1 June 2020 11: 31 New
      -2
      Oh how! He could not do without Soros, he waited for Ukraine to be remembered "Not an evil tyhy word." Remember, thanks!
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 30 May 2020 17: 22 New
    +9
    In my Soviet childhood of the 1980s, there were also individuals who committed acts that defiled the memory of the people, or said something inappropriate about the war. And the very same “hero” rummaged through the pockets in the school wardrobe, took a trifle from first-graders and tortured cats in the yard. They were all united by one quality - they were cowards, able to run into those who could not answer (youngsters, kittens, dead ...).
    I don’t know why, but I remember them.
    Therefore, I made every effort so that my children did not become so.

    There will be grandchildren soon - the next round.
  • svp67
    svp67 30 May 2020 17: 25 New
    +7
    It is necessary to punish in such a way that later it would not be disgraceful, for an initial misconduct of 100 minimum wages, for relapse as much as plus required work and criminal liability ... If you do not want to decrease, additional money will appear to maintain the war memorials in proper form
  • janeck
    janeck 30 May 2020 17: 27 New
    10
    if the state has not developed an ideology for the development of its country, if the state "men" are occupied only with themselves and their loved ones. is it any wonder that just "ownerless" youth is growing up here? without ideals, heroes on which you need and can be equated. I grew up on the exploits of Z. Kosmodemyanskaya, Y. Gagarin, A. Matrosov and V. Talalikhin. on the books “How Steel Was Tempered,” “War and Peace,” The Quiet Don, ”and others. And Now, What and Who To Look Like ??
    1. Boris Ivanov
      Boris Ivanov 30 May 2020 17: 30 New
      +6
      unfortunately now only Buzova and Martirosyan)
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 31 May 2020 11: 04 New
      0
      The state did not try to develop such an ideology. On the contrary, as if the USSR did not exist at all.
      Quote: Janek
      if the state has not developed an ideology for the development of its country, if the state "men" are occupied only with themselves and their loved ones. is it any wonder that just "ownerless" youth is growing up here? without ideals, heroes on which you need and can be equated. I grew up on the exploits of Z. Kosmodemyanskaya, Y. Gagarin, A. Matrosov and V. Talalikhin. on the books “How Steel Was Tempered,” “War and Peace,” The Quiet Don, ”and others. And Now, What and Who To Look Like ??
  • Free wind
    Free wind 30 May 2020 17: 28 New
    +6
    Two years ago in Astrakhan, four Chechens extinguished eternal flame at night. How no need to say, I think. And what, but nothing, they did not know, thought the fire.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 30 May 2020 18: 01 New
      +1
      Unfortunately, there are many such examples and they are happening more and more often.
      Articles on how monuments in neighboring countries are dismantled and desecrated appear at enviable periodicity. In the beginning, I tried to pay attention to the "log in my eye", pointed to the increasing vandalism and disregard of the authorities for their shrines, but where there! It's so sweet to brand strangers! So victorious, you can earn fifty pluses, if the right words are chosen!
      And now, journalists have recalled our problems. What will we cover? Or again, the Czechs and Bandera damned to blame?
    2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 30 May 2020 21: 48 New
      +2
      I did not think that in our country there are individuals with a complete lack of intelligence.
  • Terenin
    Terenin 30 May 2020 17: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Crowe
    It was necessary to educate such "Ivanes who don’t remember kinship" when they lay across the bench, and now only punish

    And, in general - punishment, this is also education winked
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 30 May 2020 17: 32 New
    10
    Did not see !!! I didn’t see that these ushlopki consider themselves guilty ... they have to give a term for this, 1 year - let them sew clothes in the zone ... even if they do not respect, they will be afraid !!!! And the fine and "understand and forgive" - ​​this does not apply. I’m speaking at schools and the last 3-4 years I always explain what monuments are and why it’s impossible to “vandalize” them, even if no one is buried under this monument. And when for "Thanks to the grandfather for the Victory!" if there is only a desire to stand out from the crowd, then it gives rise to such ugliness ....
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 30 May 2020 17: 36 New
    +1
    fools and let's say so bad people have always been. but if you look around, then normal youth is many times more. it's all just May 9 is visible very well. according to them, the overall picture should be drawn up and not by the vandals of which one.
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 30 May 2020 21: 25 New
      0
      the bad thing is that the press makes the main news only immoral acts
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 30 May 2020 17: 43 New
    +6
    In the family, as they say, not without imbecile .... request
    Unfortunately, such creatures also existed in the USSR. They existed, exist and will exist, no matter how strong the work with the population is to preserve the memory of that war. Just because evil must exist in order to understand good, otherwise there will be brain stagnation in development. And only statistics on such barbaric acts will show how much society realizes the line between good and evil and degrades.
    Personally, I would have locked such creatures for a day in cinemas for the forced viewing of archival documentaries on the atrocities of fascism, the horrors of the existence of civilians in a war, by how hard that victory was given .... And then the daddy and her mummies in the aftermath of pursuit for the ruble and the acquisition of other benefits (I do not argue, many did it because of survival, but this does not justify the degree of guilt) completely forgot about the upbringing of their children, who turn under the influence of the environment into degrading creatures, grilling kebabs on the Eternal Flame and dancing at the memorials ...
    Sadly all this and disgusting .... recourse
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 May 2020 17: 52 New
    +8
    In my opinion, such "defilers" should be punished especially. Public flogging, then a good term in a forced labor camp. Fines will not help here. But when they are publicly expelled for naked opera, they will remember that. And the subsequent work will fix the effect.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 31 May 2020 10: 57 New
      0
      Only fines and more! Money ---- this is their most important! This is a pain point, they have no other. What a flogging? What are you talking about? What would their liberals call suffering and unlawful?
      Quote: stock buildbat
      In my opinion, such "defilers" should be punished especially. Public flogging, then a good term in a forced labor camp. Fines will not help here. But when they are publicly expelled for naked opera, they will remember that. And the subsequent work will fix the effect.

      It’s better, of course, to give them a deadline, but again, the protests ---- they are children. And for the penalty --- parents will expose them!
  • businessv
    businessv 30 May 2020 17: 55 New
    +3
    They do not remain without punishment. Often they, already apologizing, face the camera.
    How can one be so stupid and soulless creatures ?! For such, in order of upbringing and by court decision, it is necessary to fix the care of war veterans and children, as an alternative to prison, and also to allocate for cleaning the most dirty places of the city, so that, on a voluntary basis, they cleaned and cleaned them for years, maybe then they understand something!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 31 May 2020 10: 54 New
      0
      Why soulless freaks to admit to Veterans? It cannot be a punishment, only those with respect. Or employees
      1. businessv
        businessv 31 May 2020 10: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Why soulless freaks to admit to Veterans?

        But they were not always like that! All are born the same, it is then “filled”, so there is a chance of at least an external change. Although you are right, to veterans - only with respect.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 31 May 2020 11: 11 New
          0
          So let the public toilets wash, or where the market is cleaned. ....
          After all, Veterans do not need to talk about their crap, do not upset. And it turns out, Veterans will also treat the freak with tea. Freak ---- funny? That's what.
          Quote: businessv
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Why soulless freaks to admit to Veterans?

          But they were not always like that! All are born the same, it is then “filled”, so there is a chance of at least an external change. Although you are right, to veterans - only with respect.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 30 May 2020 18: 16 New
    +5
    "Often they, already apologizing, face the camera." (c) But it is necessary that they are not facing the camera, but in the camera. Without apologies (we will interrupt) for a long time. And a wolf ticket for life. Absolutely insolent bastards stupid.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 30 May 2020 18: 25 New
    +3
    Previously, this could not be.
    If it was, then these are bodies that have completely lost their brains ....
    So that a crime should be followed by a punishment .... still a brand to stick, forever, Schaub was not familiar to others. Otherwise, no way.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 31 May 2020 11: 14 New
      +1
      Victor, and if you think that they will give birth to children soon, while there is maternity capital? What will be the next generation?
      Quote: rocket757
      Previously, this could not be.
      If it was, then these are bodies that have completely lost their brains ....
      So that a crime should be followed by a punishment .... still a brand to stick, forever, Schaub was not familiar to others. Otherwise, no way.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 May 2020 11: 29 New
        +1
        It depends on us. We must fight for our bright future. Otherwise, in no way, by itself, by itself, this is a bad choice.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 31 May 2020 11: 38 New
          +1
          I mean, such parents will not be such an upbringing, that’s what, Victor.
          Quote: rocket757
          It depends on us. We must fight for our bright future. Otherwise, in no way, by itself, by itself, this is a bad choice.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 May 2020 12: 14 New
            +1
            The educational process can go in several directions, but yes, parents are the most important thing.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 30 May 2020 18: 33 New
    +3
    Of course, direct defilers must be punished. But those who say that these are “youth jokes” must be shot, because it is they who allow spitting in the past.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 30 May 2020 18: 55 New
    +6
    Everything, these tricks, understood and did consciously. They boast, give out interviews, some emphasize their opposition - belonging to the “swamp”, etc. They are well aware that they will not receive real terms. But, they hope to increase their status in the “swamp”, to provide appropriate support on his part, and there, look and the feeder, in the form of grants, will loom.
  • skobars
    skobars 30 May 2020 19: 26 New
    +3
    These morons must be collected and sent to the battlefield. Let them atone for their work by searching for the remains of Soviet soldiers.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 May 2020 21: 33 New
      0
      Quote: skobars
      These morons must be collected and sent to the battlefield.

      no longer help
  • parusnik
    parusnik 30 May 2020 19: 45 New
    +7
    And the joke itself, they are already "heroes" for their party .... Well, they will fine, well, they will send the streets of revenge .. "heroes" ... Where do they come from, but the state ideology .. Alas .. On wide screens, the Soviet tanker presses a hand to a captured German tanker, they say thanks brother for the fight ... Pilots, evil special forces make them fight on "coffins", Soviet soldiers go to have fun in a brothel "to the city of Paris" or the last film about the blockade of Leningrad, etc. Nicholas II laid the foundation for victory ... the USSR is a terrible country .. And right there, we must honor the memory of Soviet soldiers, but this concept is also replaced by Russian soldiers who fought for Russia .. But at the memorials, the star, hammer and sickle are symbols of the Soviet era ... And Soviet is bad .. I already have a brain rupture. I clearly knew one thing, my grandfathers fought for Soviet power during the civil years, they defended this power during the Great Patriotic War and all died for it, almost no one returned .. And they say to me now, you know, in vain they did this ... Kolchak and Denikin, here they are real patriots Homeland, and your executioners and murderers ... Yes, and Mannerheim did not shell Leningrad while your grandfather fought to lift the siege of Leningrad .... Yes, you can flog these ... Brains who will fix ... And not only them. At this brain rupture , more than one generation has grown ... Monuments to the Nazis in Rossosh, they put not youngsters ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 31 May 2020 10: 46 New
      0
      The thing is, Aleksey, that now, with the reform of education, with the increase in distance learning, which will clarify the usual, it will also be free, in this case, less and less youth will learn about that time. They will have less respect by then.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 30 May 2020 19: 54 New
    +5
    one must ask from the numerous education ministers of the Russian Federation who debilitated the school ... and continue to do this, following the instructions of the gref, a member of the world government of haters and Satanists ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 30 May 2020 20: 12 New
      +7
      Quote: Pvi1206
      it is necessary to ask from numerous ministers of education of the Russian Federation,

      Or maybe you should ask who takes these ministers to work?
    2. Old Horseradish
      Old Horseradish 30 May 2020 21: 14 New
      +7
      And here Gref offends the entire population. And what? Where is any reaction? And this Gref owns the most important bank in Russia. You need to look at the root. That's what it all comes from. All television and the media are in the hands of this Gref and his comrades.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 30 May 2020 22: 29 New
        +2
        It is Gref, as the world banker-antichrist, and the like, the employees of the world behind the scenes, openly say that they are seizing control of Russia ...
        Not to see the obvious, with the analytical services of the same FSB, is extremely not circumspect.
  • evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
    evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 31 May 2020 00: 22 New
    -1
    And the state, capitalist Russia, why use the pentagram? What kind of strange love for satanic symbolism? Who forces civilian and military leaders, RK, to impose on the population of the ORTHODOX country of Russia an absolutely alien symbol? By the way, Muslims also prefer an eight-pointed star ...
    Do the MOs, RKs, don’t know that Trotsky-Bronstein imposed this symbol of the Red Army more than a hundred years ago? Or are there entirely modern admirers of this ,, activist ,,? Or fans of the Pentagon and the American army?
    And what kind of “eternal flame”? In hell, a great fire, comrades scientists! IN OUR Tradition is eternal memory. Important uncles, and aunts, from the Ministry of Defense and other law enforcement agencies, RK, do not know about this either? After all, some of them even know how to be baptized, on camera ...
    Why do we PEOPLE bow to the symbols of Satanists? Or are they so insolent that they decided to openly impose their hydrogen sulfide ideals on us? And on whose side are the defenders of the Fatherland ,,? On the side of PEOPLE or ,, ordinary nonhumans ,,?
  • Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 31 May 2020 07: 01 New
    0
    Put the degenerates with their nearest relatives (brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts) on Red Square, and the corresponding signs, who and for what. And let passers-by spit on them. And of course live. And so a week.
  • aba
    aba 31 May 2020 13: 58 New
    +2
    This is the result of the fact that the state itself is very free to the results of the Second World War and replacing concepts, removing the Red Flag and replacing wherever possible “Soviet” with “Russian”.
    I can’t imagine what kind of poster, postcard, or else where in Soviet times an image of a soldier or enemy equipment appeared instead of the Soviet one. If only as an image of the defeated.
    Then, we live in a time of permissiveness and for many this is an occasion to collect more likes and views. But the lack of their own brains by them seems to be a universal trend and does not allow us to predict something different from their perception of the world.
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 31 May 2020 15: 53 New
    +1
    and become defendants in cases.


    in Russia there is a law that did not serve in the army for 10 years without a good reason they are deprived of the right to hold public office, to be in the civil service.
    Why should the desecrators of military memorials, regardless of gender, apply a similar restriction from the moment the offense was committed, and if repeated desecration of memorials and our Victory ensued, then the term should be increased to 20 years.
    Beat the "dancers on the bones" is necessary for their future well-being, it is in their wallet their heart and soul, in those 30 pieces of silver.
  • Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 1 June 2020 08: 57 New
    +1
    Previously, such "reckless actions" were enlightened by public flogging in the square and expulsion from the village. In any case, this was the case with the violators in Cossack farms and villages. But in order to desecrate the graves, no one fell to such a thing, because there were god-fearing ones.
  • val43
    val43 1 June 2020 12: 02 New
    -3
    Quote: Valery Valery
    Therefore, I made every effort so that my children did not become so.

    The only true approach! The teacher must teach the subject. Teach quality. To educate too, but here the main burden on the family depends on us which children will grow up.
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 20 July 2020 21: 58 New
    0
    You see, this is a disease. A disease of the soul and brain is called liberalism. Look what is going on in the USA. Blacks, spikes and SJWs ruin and screw everything up. Not only monuments to the founding fathers (like those who were slave owners), but even Lincoln and demand, demand and freebies as "oppressed regime" and rename everything. And if you're a white heterosexual guy, all these bastards leave you to "pay and repent" because you are an "oppressor". The military cemetery was destroyed with shouts of "it was a war for the oppressor regime," damn it, I would have looked at you, the Germans and Japanese won the last war.

    These even destroyed the monument to the fighter against slavery (for white) and poured paint and shit on the monument to Jimmy Hendrix (as if the slave owner was, however). Liberalism is destruction for the sake of destruction, professional rebellion, a professional 5 column, a professional element that simply has no place in a healthy society if it wants to stay healthy.

    "Onizhedeti" do not work, these "onizhedeti" are sexually active from the age of 14, they drink, smoke and sniff everything they can get from about the same age. And punishment for the destruction of military cemeteries and monuments is very simple: 10 years of hard labor, followed by deprivation of citizenship and deportation. Well, the family - loss of rights and fines. Downgrading "social credit". Deprivation of voting rights, deprivation of the right to work for a state company. Deprivation of the right to social services. And the fines are such that the last cowards are sold. Don't you like the USA? Africa and Mexico are waiting for you. Liberia was created for people like you. But you did not want to return "to the land of your ancestors" either then or now, of course, there is no welfer and you have to work there. Don't you like Russia? Well, go ahead and with the song, oh yes, if you are deprived of Russian citizenship, then you are NOBODY, call you ANYWHERE and no one needs you. This is not just "teachers messed up" or "parents overlooked" or "they saw it on TV", this is liberalism - brain cancer, cancer of society, ruining, perverting and poisoning everything it can reach. And cancer is cured with fire, steel and chemistry.

    Of course, I spoke about what is happening here in the United States. But this genie of liberalism, which was released from the bottle in the 80s by the CIA, and which destroyed the USSR, this genie returned to us, here. And what happened and is happening with you has now begun and with us ... As a matter of fact, we ran into it ourselves. As the saying goes "the chicken came home to roost", and this monster can be overcome only by the most severe forceful methods (see Tianamin Square). So that every scum is afraid to even think about desecrating the monument, especially to the soldiers, so that it is afraid to think about rebelling and looting.