How the Chinese army train flamethrowers: shots from the training ground are shown

A video was published on the network with the training of military personnel of the People's Liberation Army of China (PLA), which draw special attention to themselves. The PLA demonstrated how the training of flamethrower fighters is carried out.

The frames show that while a fighter is made to fire at a conditional enemy, the most varied options for influencing him and his weapon have colleagues.

For example, in the initial shots, a soldier kicks the flamethrower from above. The following shows how, clutching the barrel, the fighter moves the weapon along with the one who holds it back and forth. It is also shown how a soldier climbs on his leg to a fellow soldier who was made to shoot while standing.

Another area of ​​training is that the two soldiers who are ready to fire are raised by two soldiers about a meter above the ground. One holds the man by the legs, the other grabbed the barrel of the weapon, directing him thereby towards himself.

Next, the video demonstrates single shooting at the firing range, as well as shooting as part of the squad of flamethrowers.

It is noted that this kind of training is aimed, inter alia, at developing confidence in the use of flamethrowers, so that the fighter holds his weapon tightly in his hands, including cases of intense fighting.

Chinese flamethrower training pic.twitter.com/3RD6clGDP1

- Volodin-Topwar (@VolodinTopwar) May 30, 2020

Comments

[svp67]

These are not flamethrowers, they are suicide bombers ... although for a war with some of their neighbors, who have rich experience in guerrilla warfare in the jungle, it will probably come down ...

[Civil]

We are waiting for the teachings of Chinese arquebusers and cuirassiers)

[BARKAS]

Their neighbors in Pakistan will be invaded by locusts, so let them go and have fun.

[210ox]

And here jokes are not appropriate. Their rearmament is taking leaps and bounds. Especially the Navy and the Air Force. Just think, they showed training with a flamethrower from the Second World War.

[Voltsky]

Quote: svp67

These are not flamethrowers, this is suicide bomber

absolutely agree with you :)

[seregatara1969]

In some cases, fighting in the city is a very necessary thing. In order to smoke barmaleya at once, it is enough to spray once with burning gasoline.

[Voltsky]

bumblebee, or grenade you absolutely do not like ?! :) I heard the theory that if you put down the house, then no one needs to smoke from there.

[mvg]

what if to fold the house

Can you tell me how to put a reinforced concrete or brick structure with a wall thickness of, say, 30-60 cm? This is "Khrushchev" and brick houses of 60 years of development.

[Voltsky]

Quote: mvg

Can you tell me how to put a reinforced concrete or brick structure with a wall thickness of, say, 30-60 cm? This is "Khrushchev" and brick houses of 60 years of development

will it work? :)

[mvg]

4-6 km. Are you going to storm the city? Nu-nu .. Infantry is storming the city, but not TOS. This is to cover the square, but in the city, along with its infantry, the phrase "friendly fire" takes on a completely different meaning ... ((

[Voltsky]

mopping up the area, and then infantry with grenades and RPO through the ruins will take place. You don’t understand, it’s not right for me, but if I think that even a platoon can get into the curales, you can erase the quarter and the region into dust. Collateral losses, and newspapers can write whatever they want, the main thing is that my guys are safe.

[cat Rusich]

Understand correctly. The associated losses can cost more than the results of the operation. One option is a war in a foreign land, and the other is a war at home. For example, the war in Syria - the Syrian army is fighting at home, the militias (or already a regular army) of the DPR and LPR are fighting at home. It is possible to erase a quarter and even a district into dust, but who will then restore everything? It is necessary to increase the combat readiness and training of soldiers, train the command staff of the army to conduct combat and war by reasonable methods, and not "wave a saber", arm themselves with suitable and modern weapons. Or be ready to spend a lot of dollars after the war.

[Voltsky]

Then you try to understand correctly, one shot at the tanks with subsequent detonation is several corpses and wounded in the squad. So no, a jet flamethrower is not needed; if there is rpo

[cat Rusich]

You can go into details. Under what conditions will the "conditional capacity" detonate with the incendiary mixture, and under what circumstances will the shot detonate to the RPG-7 or RPO. We can recall the cases during the Second World War, when soldiers caught fire from their own Molotov cocktails. In the movies, the gas tank explodes on the first hit of the "goodie". It's very easy to catch fire from a thin knapsack flamethrower. Just talking about the fact that you need to arm yourself with modern weapons and learn how to use them correctly.

[Voltsky]

Quote: cat Rusich

Just talking about the need to arm yourself with modern weapons and learning to use it correctly.

An inkjet flamethrower or what ?! Is he the modern technology ?!
next time the Chinese will pull Mosinka out, and you’ll propose to switch to it
Have a bite :)

If the bumblebee is not enough, eat a cornet

[cat Rusich]

"... It is necessary to have a snack:) ..." - you should not overeat. You offered Vinnie to fight with the "scorched earth" method - I wrote that this method is not always suitable. In response to the words about the "flammability" of knapsack flamethrowers, I wrote about the "danger" of other weapons. I did not write anything about the "modernity" of the Chinese flamethrowers Type-58 (a copy of the LPO-50 of the USSR). The PLA has in its warehouses the Type-24 rifle (a copy of the Mauser 98). There are carbines Ture-88, Ture-79/85 (copy of the SVD).

[Voltsky]

I fool who advocated for this archaic, explained that he did not need nafig and gave as an example, such a scenario. And he did not offer to arrange the ashes every time; I don’t need to explain that the doctor has a scalpel, but a lumberjack with an ax and not vice versa.

[cat Rusich]

In my opinion, a video about the training of Chinese flamethrowers "window dressing" from the PLA political officers. We seriously discussed the use of Type-58 flamethrowers in modern warfare. The PLA has a PF-97 (analogue of the "Bumblebee").

[Voltsky]

Quote: cat Rusich

In my opinion, a video about the training of Chinese flamethrowers "window dressing" from the PLA political officers.

He is, because everything in the video is from the same song as the bricks with his fist or about his head.

[Yaro Polk]

it’s not gas, but the real Napalm seems to be a very effective weapon, as the American-Japanese war showed, such weapons were even banned at the UN, after the war ended, the Americans did all of the flamethrowers specially for these tanks, I watched it in the program.

[gsev]

Quote: Yaro Polk

, americos all flamethrowers specially these cylinders were leaky

And what have they burned Koreans from 1950 to 1953? Soviet medicine did not know how to treat people with such burns. For a long time, it was believed that American mixtures could not be extinguished until the Koreans picked up a mixture based on white clay, which can sometimes be covered with flames. Yes, and in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, the Americans burned people with pleasure. Of course, they preferred to use flamethrower tanks, and only hard-to-reach spots were burned out of backpack flamethrowers. In the Donbass, Ukrainians have successfully used phosphorus and similar things.

[Mudavius]

Quote: svp67

These are not flamethrowers, they are suicide bombers ... although for a war with some of their neighbors, who have rich experience in guerrilla warfare in the jungle, it will probably come down ...

That is how Sergey ... We have seen these "kamikaze, etc." more than once ..

Always laughed while reading this ..)))

[Catfish]

It's like in an old anecdote with Vasil Ivanovich: "P r and d u r o k ... I-I-I with a bare heel on a checker!"

[Fishery]

eventually laughing) lost the war of Japan))

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Tonya

lost the war of Japan

They stood firmly on land. And what they couldn’t bring to the bases by sea, it’s not the fault of Yesaul Krivoshlykov.

[Fishery]

this is an excuse) after a fight do not wave their fists

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Tonya

after the fight they don’t wave their fists

So I’m specifically about the fight, and not about after. Obviously the same.

[cat Rusich]

Port Arthur lasted from July 17 (30), 1904 to December 23, 1904 (January 5, 1905). The Japanese took Mr. Vysoka (a key height for defense or an offensive (Sevastopol fell after the loss of the Malakhov barrow, a key height of defense or attack) and the defense fell apart.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: cat Rusich

The Japanese took Mr. High

40 thousand Russians for almost half a year held the defense against 200 thousand Japanese. The losses of the attacking side were almost 10 times higher than ours. The most vivid assessment of this "won" battle was given by the then commanding forces of the enemy, General Nogi, having committed hara-kiri out of shame for what had happened.

[cat Rusich]

"... We stood firm ..." - in a war, "standing firmly" is not enough - you have to WIN. For almost half a year they held the defense of Port Arthur, but help could not break through. Why? - lost the land war to the Japanese, the RI fleet at sea (the Rozhdestvensky squadron died in the battle in the Tsushima Strait) also lost. Outcome: RI lost, half of Fr. Sakhalin was given to the Japanese.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: cat Rusich

"... We stood firmly ..."

You should immediately think about the meaning of this phrase, and not write your previous post.
As for your fabrications about a little and a lot, believe me, they are not interesting for discussion

[Bat039]

It would not hinder the Russian Federation to pay more attention to flamethrowers and more often use them in battles with bandits. Just recently, we stormed a building in which 3 bandits were seated ... A flamethrower would have come in handy, all the same, the undercut basmachis cannot be fixed and it makes no sense to take them alive!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Bat039

It would not hinder the Russian Federation to pay more attention to flamethrowers and more often use them in battles with bandits. Just recently, we stormed a building in which 3 bandits were seated ... A flamethrower would have come in handy, all the same, the undercut basmachis cannot be fixed and it makes no sense to take them alive!

So, does Russia seem to have a certain amount, or is this a wrong coat for you?

[Mudavius]

Quote: Tank Hard

So, does Russia seem to have a certain amount, or is this a wrong coat for you?

And we often use it if they shoot ourselves ..

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Bat039

Just recently, we stormed a building in which 3 bandits were seated ... A flamethrower would have come in handy, all the same, the undercut basmachis cannot be corrected and it makes no sense to take them alive!

For such cases, there is, for example, the Bumblebee jet flamethrower in particular, and thermobaric ammunition for hand grenade launchers in general. To meddle under the fire of bandits with a knapsack flamethrower is yesterday. RHBZshniks have backpack flamethrowers, but not for assault tasks or intense combat in open areas

[Phoenix040]

A bumblebee is a good thing, but it’s as powerful as a 122 mm projectile, it’s unprofitable and dangerous to use such a civilian community in order to destroy 3 armed bandits ... But if you put a light flamethrower on an armored car Tiger, it would be possible to burn out a gangster beast without inflicting unnecessary damage to neighboring buildings, which is quite possible with the use of Bumblebee ...

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

not for assault tasks

And for what?

[Voltsky]

Quote: Bat039

It would not hinder in Russia to pay more attention to flamethrowers

Quote: KVU-NSVD

For such cases, there is, for example, the Bumblebee jet flamethrower

[svp67]

Quote: Bat039

It would not hinder the Russian Federation to pay more attention to flamethrowers and more often use them in battles with bandits.

Oh, about whom, whom, and in the Russian army they are all right.

Quote: Bat039

Here the flamethrower would come in handy, all the same, the incomplete basmachi cannot be corrected and there is no point in taking them alive!

Like the one in the photo? No, it has a maximum action of 50 meters, or even less, and two pressure cylinders with flame mixtures, when hit, the flamethrower turns into a torch ... thanks, we have our own flamethrower, it is much more efficient and safer. From hand-held thermobaric grenades, then the most powerful missiles and aerial bombs with thermo-baric filling

[Private-K]

The mass use of flamethrowers of various types in the army of the Russian Federation is probably the highest in the world.
But the fact that the flamethrower was not at the right time in the right place is sloppiness.

[alone]

You won’t go far with such a flamethrower ... It is better to use it against a locust horde

[Tank hard]

Quote: lonely

You won’t go far with such a flamethrower

Or maybe this is the new Chinese "high-tech"?

[alone]

Quote: Tank Hard

Or maybe this is the new Chinese "high-tech"?

One bullet - two chicken grills ... That's the whole "hi-tech"

[Butchcassidy]

Against the horde of locusts, the Chinese have long come up with two wooden sticks. Who whom - the competition is very old ...

[alone]

Quote: ButchCassidy

Against the horde of locusts, the Chinese have long come up with two wooden sticks. Who whom - the competition is very old ...

And with a flamethrower it’s more convenient - pulnul jet and immediately to the table

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: lonely

It is best used against locust hordes.

Reasonable! During the locust infestation, that's it! Immediately you get a ready-made dish: "fried locust"! (From the "ancient" chronicles: During the invasion of locusts, prices for lamb and other meat, for poultry fall!)

[Free wind]

The flamethrowers were not taken prisoner, the shooting on the spot. We don’t have knapsack flamethrowers now, but we have reactive ones.

[rocket757]

Thermoballic ammunition, grenade launchers with such a charge. Much safer than a knapsack flamethrower.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: rocket757

Thermoballic

thermobaric

[Voltsky]

thermoballistic with inertial self-resurrection head :)

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Quote: rocket757
Thermoballic

[rocket757]

. Volumetric Explosion Ammunition (BWM), or Volumetric Detonating Ammunition (ODB) - Ammunition,

You are already in the courses, what is it .....
The Internet is such a mess, it rules as he pleases.

... grenade-flame-throwing complex "Mix"

there is one.
In general, just enough.

[Mountain shooter]

There are no more knapsack flamethrowers in RA. Thermobaric ammunition is much more effective and accurate. As a last resort, it seems that there are even hand grenades. And so - there are "Bumblebees" of various modifications, "Boer" - graceful and deadly, grenades for RPG-7 ... Knapsack flamethrowers - a priority target for everyone on the battlefield. And their life is shorter than a jet from this weapon ...

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Knapsack flamethrowers are no longer in Armenia.

About eight years ago, the "chemists" they knew had quite enough and were "shot" at the range

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

About eight years ago, the "chemists" they knew had quite enough and were "shot" at the range

So we still have PPSh in warehouses, and even "Mosinki" ... But I have not heard for a long time that tactics were used to practice the use of knapsack flamethrowers ...

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

So we still have PPSh in warehouses, and even "Mosinki" ... But I have not heard for a long time that tactics were used to practice the use of knapsack flamethrowers ...

I mean, they weren’t removed from weapons.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Knapsack flamethrowers are no longer in Armenia. Thermobaric ammunition is much more efficient and accurate.

Fir-trees! What are you all: thermobaric ... thermobaric ...! Thermobaric is an alternative to high-explosive charges! And it was about flamethrowers! In this case, it is worth remembering that, for example, the popular "Bumblebee" is available in 3 versions: 1. thermobaric; 2. "incendiary" (with fire mixture); 3. smoke ... Do not forget about RPO "Lynx" as well. newer RPO "Prize" and "Varna"! By the way, "Varna" is a "pure" flamethrower and "a type of hybrid of jet and jet flamethrowers"!

[rotmistr60]

training of flamethrower fighters.

Knapsack flamethrowers are the last century. The range of action is not long, it is dangerous to handle, in the event of a bullet hit - a full paragraph, and even not taken prisoner, because shot on the spot from the 1st MV. Today, only one RPO "Bumblebee" - a thunderstorm of enemies, which is not to mention other systems. Well, the Chinese, probably considering their experience of participation in the war on the side of the Vietnamese against the United States, decided not to forget this weapon.

[PCF]

Well, the effectiveness of such a Chinese jet flamethrower, well ... 25-30 meters, so that the mix’s charge lasts for a dozen shots. A very specific weapon, in my opinion, a pair of pouches with F-1 and RGD-5 will be more effective

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

The first shots we would have called hazing, and so - old flamethrowers and what's so special about that ??? Or again they are trying to tell us "with a breath of admiration" what great wars the Chinese are)))

[ApJlekuHo]

Suitable for cleansing, destruction of villages and civilians.

[saygon66]

- Well, yes ... Tear the thermobaric grenade indoors, throwing it from the corridor ... Yes ...
- A jet from a flamethrower, neither narrow embrasures, nor proto-grenade nets are not an obstacle ...
- The fragmentation grenade and its weakly suppresses - and then only the jet hiss ... and silence ...

[Fishery]

The last knapsack flamethrower in the USSR was like until the 60s.

[Speedy]

Before the appearance of "Lynx" were at the RChBZ. They seem to have them now, but for household sterilization practice. Although I do not know for sure, I have to ask Topchikha.

[Eugen alpine]

Somehow the other left an impression: how free the approach to safety is. The instructor grabs the weapon, directs the barrel towards himself, jumps on the leg of the flamethrower. In our army, for this would have come from the military prosecutor's office, plus a flock of "soldiers' mothers" and other "ingenue" for TB. The deprivation of the company commander and com part - the bonus and the thirteenth is guaranteed! As a result, the training of a fighter suffers. We have. And they don't.

[Blue fox]

I do not think backpacks are long obsolete weapons. The main effect of the flamethrower is psychological. Naturally, the conditions for its use are specific, but not so rare - fighting in trenches, blocking and destroying bunkers, caves, tunnels, kyarises (it is better to have a flamethrower, rather than a collective farm with cans and hand grenades), and backpack packs give an advantage over the same Bumblebee, in most cases they do not deprive them of the possibility of moving forward since they do not cause such destruction. Given the current specifics and trends, for the battles in urban development is a very imagine thing!
Ps According to the assault on the Mannerheim line, the Finns were most afraid not of T-28s, SMK or KV-2, but of imperfect and very vulnerable flamethrower tanks, which terrified them and forced them to retreat with their one aimless flamethrower over the squares. And the Finns were then grated guys, with tanks stopped by a Molotov cocktail and a bunch of TNT checkers on a wooden handle.

[Machete]

The flamethrowers were captured and will not be taken. Just meat.

[Private-K]

It is necessary to train psycho-emotional resistance to a combat situation in a different way - the technique is known.
And this is a Chinese circus.

[Private-K]

Quote: Blue Fox

The main effect of the flamethrower is psychological.

If simple - then it is.
Fire fear is a normal human mental reaction.
And this makes flamethrowers a valuable and useful weapon in assault operations. Especially if the positions taken by the pr-com are subject to rapid ignition.

[Fishery]

Well, for example, for chemists, or they are infection and sanction)) they will shoot from bumblebees or something .... and so go to the rear of a shed with a hut to burn)) conveniently

[Kosh]

In China, knapsack flamethrowers remain in service based on the experience of their battles with Vietnam in the late 1970s and mid-1980s. They are widely armed with analogs of our "Bumblebees", etc., but they reasonably believe that these are weapons for different niches. The knapsack flamethrower can still serve well during battles in dense forests and when clearing dense urban areas, where clashes often unfold at a distance of several tens of meters or even less.

[vonWolfenstein]

I agree that the Chinese as zealous owners are in no hurry to get rid of the old, and are trying to find more effective use for it. Each army has its own specifics of the proposed theater. You can’t call anyone Chinese fools, and if they hold knapsack flamethrowers, then it’s necessary