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How the Chinese army train flamethrowers: shots from the training ground are shown

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How the Chinese army train flamethrowers: shots from the training ground are shown

A video was published on the network with the training of military personnel of the People's Liberation Army of China (PLA), which draw special attention to themselves. The PLA demonstrated how the training of flamethrower fighters is carried out.


The frames show that while a fighter is made to fire at a conditional enemy, the most varied options for influencing him and his weapon have colleagues.

For example, in the initial shots, a soldier kicks the flamethrower from above. The following shows how, clutching the barrel, the fighter moves the weapon along with the one who holds it back and forth. It is also shown how a soldier climbs on his leg to a fellow soldier who was made to shoot while standing.

Another area of ​​training is that the two soldiers who are ready to fire are raised by two soldiers about a meter above the ground. One holds the man by the legs, the other grabbed the barrel of the weapon, directing him thereby towards himself.

Next, the video demonstrates single shooting at the firing range, as well as shooting as part of the squad of flamethrowers.

It is noted that this kind of training is aimed, inter alia, at developing confidence in the use of flamethrowers, so that the fighter holds his weapon tightly in his hands, including cases of intense fighting.

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  1. svp67
    svp67 30 May 2020 12: 29 New
    18
    These are not flamethrowers, they are suicide bombers ... although for a war with some of their neighbors, who have rich experience in guerrilla warfare in the jungle, it will probably come down ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 30 May 2020 12: 53 New
      10
      We are waiting for the teachings of Chinese arquebusers and cuirassiers)
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 30 May 2020 13: 26 New
        0
        Their neighbors in Pakistan will be invaded by locusts, so let them go and have fun.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 30 May 2020 15: 46 New
        +4
        And here jokes are not appropriate. Their rearmament is taking leaps and bounds. Especially the Navy and the Air Force. Just think, they showed training with a flamethrower from the Second World War.
    2. Voltsky
      Voltsky 30 May 2020 13: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      These are not flamethrowers, this is suicide bomber

      absolutely agree with you :)
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 30 May 2020 16: 07 New
        +2
        In some cases, fighting in the city is a very necessary thing. In order to smoke barmaleya at once, it is enough to spray once with burning gasoline.
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 30 May 2020 16: 17 New
          +3
          bumblebee, or grenade you absolutely do not like ?! :) I heard the theory that if you put down the house, then no one needs to smoke from there.
          1. mvg
            mvg 30 May 2020 18: 24 New
            +3
            what if to fold the house

            Can you tell me how to put a reinforced concrete or brick structure with a wall thickness of, say, 30-60 cm? This is "Khrushchev" and brick houses of 60 years of development.
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 30 May 2020 18: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: mvg
              Can you tell me how to put a reinforced concrete or brick structure with a wall thickness of, say, 30-60 cm? This is "Khrushchev" and brick houses of 60 years of development


              will it work? :)
              1. mvg
                mvg 30 May 2020 19: 27 New
                +4
                4-6 km. Are you going to storm the city? Nu-nu .. Infantry is storming the city, but not TOS. This is to cover the square, but in the city, along with its infantry, the phrase "friendly fire" takes on a completely different meaning ... ((
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 30 May 2020 19: 39 New
                  +5
                  mopping up the area, and then infantry with grenades and RPO through the ruins will take place. You don’t understand, it’s not right for me, but if I think that even a platoon can get into the curales, you can erase the quarter and the region into dust. Collateral losses, and newspapers can write whatever they want, the main thing is that my guys are safe.
                  1. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 31 May 2020 16: 49 New
                    +2
                    Understand correctly. The associated losses can cost more than the results of the operation. One option is a war in a foreign land, and the other is a war at home. For example, the war in Syria - the Syrian army is fighting at home, the militias (or already a regular army) of the DPR and LPR are fighting at home. It is possible to erase a quarter and even a district into dust, but who will then restore everything? It is necessary to increase the combat readiness and training of soldiers, train the command staff of the army to conduct combat and war by reasonable methods, and not "wave a saber", arm themselves with suitable and modern weapons. Or be ready to spend a lot of dollars after the war.
                    1. Voltsky
                      Voltsky 31 May 2020 16: 53 New
                      -1
                      Then you try to understand correctly, one shot at the tanks with subsequent detonation is several corpses and wounded in the squad. So no, a jet flamethrower is not needed; if there is rpo
                      1. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 31 May 2020 17: 11 New
                        +2
                        You can go into details. Under what conditions will the "conditional capacity" detonate with the incendiary mixture, and under what circumstances will the shot detonate to the RPG-7 or RPO. We can recall the cases during the Second World War, when soldiers caught fire from their own Molotov cocktails. In the movies, the gas tank explodes on the first hit of the "goodie". It's very easy to catch fire from a thin knapsack flamethrower. Just talking about the fact that you need to arm yourself with modern weapons and learn how to use them correctly.
                      2. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 31 May 2020 17: 16 New
                        0
                        Quote: cat Rusich
                        Just talking about the need to arm yourself with modern weapons and learning to use it correctly.

                        An inkjet flamethrower or what ?! Is he the modern technology ?!
                        next time the Chinese will pull Mosinka out, and you’ll propose to switch to it
                        Have a bite :)

                        If the bumblebee is not enough, eat a cornet
                      3. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 31 May 2020 17: 49 New
                        +2
                        "... It is necessary to have a snack:) ..." - you should not overeat. You offered Vinnie to fight with the "scorched earth" method - I wrote that this method is not always suitable. In response to the words about the "flammability" of knapsack flamethrowers, I wrote about the "danger" of other weapons. I did not write anything about the "modernity" of the Chinese flamethrowers Type-58 (a copy of the LPO-50 of the USSR). The PLA has in its warehouses the Type-24 rifle (a copy of the Mauser 98). There are carbines Ture-88, Ture-79/85 (copy of the SVD).
                      4. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 31 May 2020 17: 59 New
                        -1
                        I fool who advocated for this archaic, explained that he did not need nafig and gave as an example, such a scenario. And he did not offer to arrange the ashes every time; I don’t need to explain that the doctor has a scalpel, but a lumberjack with an ax and not vice versa.
                      5. cat Rusich
                        cat Rusich 31 May 2020 18: 17 New
                        0
                        In my opinion, a video about the training of Chinese flamethrowers "window dressing" from the PLA political officers. We seriously discussed the use of Type-58 flamethrowers in modern warfare. The PLA has a PF-97 (analogue of the "Bumblebee").
                      6. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 31 May 2020 18: 20 New
                        -1
                        Quote: cat Rusich
                        In my opinion, a video about the training of Chinese flamethrowers "window dressing" from the PLA political officers.

                        He is, because everything in the video is from the same song as the bricks with his fist or about his head.
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 30 May 2020 16: 34 New
    +2
    it’s not gas, but the real Napalm seems to be a very effective weapon, as the American-Japanese war showed, such weapons were even banned at the UN, after the war ended, the Americans did all of the flamethrowers specially for these tanks, I watched it in the program.
    1. gsev
      gsev 31 May 2020 01: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      , americos all flamethrowers specially these cylinders were leaky

      And what have they burned Koreans from 1950 to 1953? Soviet medicine did not know how to treat people with such burns. For a long time, it was believed that American mixtures could not be extinguished until the Koreans picked up a mixture based on white clay, which can sometimes be covered with flames. Yes, and in Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, the Americans burned people with pleasure. Of course, they preferred to use flamethrower tanks, and only hard-to-reach spots were burned out of backpack flamethrowers. In the Donbass, Ukrainians have successfully used phosphorus and similar things.
  • Mudavius
    Mudavius 30 May 2020 13: 16 New
    +9
    Quote: svp67
    These are not flamethrowers, they are suicide bombers ... although for a war with some of their neighbors, who have rich experience in guerrilla warfare in the jungle, it will probably come down ...

    That is how Sergey ... We have seen these "kamikaze, etc." more than once ..

    laughing Always laughed while reading this ..)))
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 30 May 2020 14: 29 New
      +5
      It's like in an old anecdote with Vasil Ivanovich: "P r and d u r o k ... I-I-I with a bare heel on a checker!" laughing
    2. Fishery
      Fishery 30 May 2020 16: 44 New
      +1
      eventually laughing) lost the war of Japan))
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 31 May 2020 14: 08 New
        -1
        Quote: Tonya
        lost the war of Japan

        They stood firmly on land. And what they couldn’t bring to the bases by sea, it’s not the fault of Yesaul Krivoshlykov.
        1. Fishery
          Fishery 31 May 2020 14: 53 New
          0
          this is an excuse) after a fight do not wave their fists
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 31 May 2020 22: 23 New
            -1
            Quote: Tonya
            after the fight they don’t wave their fists

            So I’m specifically about the fight, and not about after. Obviously the same.
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 31 May 2020 17: 59 New
          0
          Port Arthur lasted from July 17 (30), 1904 to December 23, 1904 (January 5, 1905). The Japanese took Mr. Vysoka (a key height for defense or an offensive (Sevastopol fell after the loss of the Malakhov barrow, a key height of defense or attack) and the defense fell apart.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 31 May 2020 22: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: cat Rusich
            The Japanese took Mr. High

            40 thousand Russians for almost half a year held the defense against 200 thousand Japanese. The losses of the attacking side were almost 10 times higher than ours. The most vivid assessment of this "won" battle was given by the then commanding forces of the enemy, General Nogi, having committed hara-kiri out of shame for what had happened.
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 31 May 2020 22: 51 New
              0
              "... We stood firm ..." - in a war, "standing firmly" is not enough - you have to WIN. For almost half a year they held the defense of Port Arthur, but help could not break through. Why? - lost the land war to the Japanese, the RI fleet at sea (the Rozhdestvensky squadron died in the battle in the Tsushima Strait) also lost. Outcome: RI lost, half of Fr. Sakhalin was given to the Japanese.
              1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                Boris ⁣ Shaver 1 June 2020 00: 31 New
                0
                Quote: cat Rusich
                "... We stood firmly ..."

                You should immediately think about the meaning of this phrase, and not write your previous post.
                As for your fabrications about a little and a lot, believe me, they are not interesting for discussion
  • Bat039
    Bat039 30 May 2020 12: 33 New
    11
    It would not hinder the Russian Federation to pay more attention to flamethrowers and more often use them in battles with bandits. Just recently, we stormed a building in which 3 bandits were seated ... A flamethrower would have come in handy, all the same, the undercut basmachis cannot be fixed and it makes no sense to take them alive!
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 30 May 2020 12: 41 New
      +9
      Quote: Bat039
      It would not hinder the Russian Federation to pay more attention to flamethrowers and more often use them in battles with bandits. Just recently, we stormed a building in which 3 bandits were seated ... A flamethrower would have come in handy, all the same, the undercut basmachis cannot be fixed and it makes no sense to take them alive!

      So, does Russia seem to have a certain amount, or is this a wrong coat for you? repeat
      1. Mudavius
        Mudavius 30 May 2020 13: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Tank Hard
        So, does Russia seem to have a certain amount, or is this a wrong coat for you?

        And we often use it if they shoot ourselves .. hi
    2. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 30 May 2020 12: 58 New
      11
      Quote: Bat039
      Just recently, we stormed a building in which 3 bandits were seated ... A flamethrower would have come in handy, all the same, the undercut basmachis cannot be corrected and it makes no sense to take them alive!

      For such cases, there is, for example, the Bumblebee jet flamethrower in particular, and thermobaric ammunition for hand grenade launchers in general. To meddle under the fire of bandits with a knapsack flamethrower is yesterday. RHBZshniks have backpack flamethrowers, but not for assault tasks or intense combat in open areas
      1. Phoenix040
        Phoenix040 30 May 2020 23: 20 New
        +1
        A bumblebee is a good thing, but it’s as powerful as a 122 mm projectile, it’s unprofitable and dangerous to use such a civilian community in order to destroy 3 armed bandits ... But if you put a light flamethrower on an armored car Tiger, it would be possible to burn out a gangster beast without inflicting unnecessary damage to neighboring buildings, which is quite possible with the use of Bumblebee ...
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 31 May 2020 14: 10 New
        0
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        not for assault tasks

        And for what?
    3. Voltsky
      Voltsky 30 May 2020 13: 08 New
      -1
      Quote: Bat039
      It would not hinder in Russia to pay more attention to flamethrowers

      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      For such cases, there is, for example, the Bumblebee jet flamethrower
    4. svp67
      svp67 30 May 2020 13: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Bat039
      It would not hinder the Russian Federation to pay more attention to flamethrowers and more often use them in battles with bandits.

      Oh, about whom, whom, and in the Russian army they are all right.
      Quote: Bat039
      Here the flamethrower would come in handy, all the same, the incomplete basmachi cannot be corrected and there is no point in taking them alive!

      Like the one in the photo? No, it has a maximum action of 50 meters, or even less, and two pressure cylinders with flame mixtures, when hit, the flamethrower turns into a torch ... thanks, we have our own flamethrower, it is much more efficient and safer. From hand-held thermobaric grenades, then the most powerful missiles and aerial bombs with thermo-baric filling
    5. Private-K
      Private-K 31 May 2020 08: 54 New
      0
      The mass use of flamethrowers of various types in the army of the Russian Federation is probably the highest in the world.
      But the fact that the flamethrower was not at the right time in the right place is sloppiness.
  • alone
    alone 30 May 2020 12: 34 New
    +3
    You won’t go far with such a flamethrower ... It is better to use it against a locust horde laughing
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 30 May 2020 12: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: lonely
      You won’t go far with such a flamethrower

      Or maybe this is the new Chinese "high-tech"? wink
      1. alone
        alone 30 May 2020 12: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Or maybe this is the new Chinese "high-tech"?

        One bullet - two chicken grills ... That's the whole "hi-tech"
    2. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 30 May 2020 13: 34 New
      +2
      Against the horde of locusts, the Chinese have long come up with two wooden sticks. Who whom - the competition is very old ...
      1. alone
        alone 30 May 2020 13: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: ButchCassidy
        Against the horde of locusts, the Chinese have long come up with two wooden sticks. Who whom - the competition is very old ...

        And with a flamethrower it’s more convenient - pulnul jet and immediately to the table wassat wassat
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 30 May 2020 14: 11 New
      0
      Quote: lonely
      It is best used against locust hordes.

      Reasonable! During the locust infestation, that's it! Immediately you get a ready-made dish: "fried locust"! (From the "ancient" chronicles: During the invasion of locusts, prices for lamb and other meat, for poultry fall!)
  • Free wind
    Free wind 30 May 2020 12: 38 New
    0
    The flamethrowers were not taken prisoner, the shooting on the spot. We don’t have knapsack flamethrowers now, but we have reactive ones.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 30 May 2020 12: 43 New
      +3
      Thermoballic ammunition, grenade launchers with such a charge. Much safer than a knapsack flamethrower.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 30 May 2020 13: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: rocket757
        Thermoballic

        thermobaric
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 30 May 2020 13: 10 New
          0
          thermoballistic with inertial self-resurrection head :)
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          Quote: rocket757
          Thermoballic
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 30 May 2020 14: 50 New
            0
            . Volumetric Explosion Ammunition (BWM), or Volumetric Detonating Ammunition (ODB) - Ammunition,

            You are already in the courses, what is it .....
            The Internet is such a mess, it rules as he pleases.
            ... grenade-flame-throwing complex "Mix"
            there is one.
            In general, just enough.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 May 2020 12: 44 New
    +4
    There are no more knapsack flamethrowers in RA. Thermobaric ammunition is much more effective and accurate. As a last resort, it seems that there are even hand grenades. And so - there are "Bumblebees" of various modifications, "Boer" - graceful and deadly, grenades for RPG-7 ... Knapsack flamethrowers - a priority target for everyone on the battlefield. And their life is shorter than a jet from this weapon ...
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 30 May 2020 13: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Knapsack flamethrowers are no longer in Armenia.

      About eight years ago, the "chemists" they knew had quite enough and were "shot" at the range
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 30 May 2020 15: 41 New
        -2
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        About eight years ago, the "chemists" they knew had quite enough and were "shot" at the range

        So we still have PPSh in warehouses, and even "Mosinki" ... But I have not heard for a long time that tactics were used to practice the use of knapsack flamethrowers ...
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 30 May 2020 16: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          So we still have PPSh in warehouses, and even "Mosinki" ... But I have not heard for a long time that tactics were used to practice the use of knapsack flamethrowers ...

          I mean, they weren’t removed from weapons.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 30 May 2020 14: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Knapsack flamethrowers are no longer in Armenia. Thermobaric ammunition is much more efficient and accurate.

      Fir-trees! What are you all: thermobaric ... thermobaric ...! Thermobaric is an alternative to high-explosive charges! And it was about flamethrowers! In this case, it is worth remembering that, for example, the popular "Bumblebee" is available in 3 versions: 1. thermobaric; 2. "incendiary" (with fire mixture); 3. smoke ... Do not forget about RPO "Lynx" as well. newer RPO "Prize" and "Varna"! By the way, "Varna" is a "pure" flamethrower and "a type of hybrid of jet and jet flamethrowers"!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 May 2020 12: 54 New
    +1
    training of flamethrower fighters.
    Knapsack flamethrowers are the last century. The range of action is not long, it is dangerous to handle, in the event of a bullet hit - a full paragraph, and even not taken prisoner, because shot on the spot from the 1st MV. Today, only one RPO "Bumblebee" - a thunderstorm of enemies, which is not to mention other systems. Well, the Chinese, probably considering their experience of participation in the war on the side of the Vietnamese against the United States, decided not to forget this weapon.
  • PCF
    PCF 30 May 2020 13: 19 New
    +1
    Well, the effectiveness of such a Chinese jet flamethrower, well ... 25-30 meters, so that the mix’s charge lasts for a dozen shots. A very specific weapon, in my opinion, a pair of pouches with F-1 and RGD-5 will be more effective
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 30 May 2020 13: 47 New
    +1
    The first shots we would have called hazing, and so - old flamethrowers and what's so special about that ??? Or again they are trying to tell us "with a breath of admiration" what great wars the Chinese are)))
  • ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 30 May 2020 13: 57 New
    +1
    Suitable for cleansing, destruction of villages and civilians.
  • saygon66
    saygon66 30 May 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    - Well, yes ... Tear the thermobaric grenade indoors, throwing it from the corridor ... Yes ...
    - A jet from a flamethrower, neither narrow embrasures, nor proto-grenade nets are not an obstacle ...
    - The fragmentation grenade and its weakly suppresses - and then only the jet hiss ... and silence ...
    repeat
  • Fishery
    Fishery 30 May 2020 16: 47 New
    0
    The last knapsack flamethrower in the USSR was like until the 60s.
    1. Speedy
      Speedy 30 May 2020 17: 30 New
      +1
      Before the appearance of "Lynx" were at the RChBZ. They seem to have them now, but for household sterilization practice. Although I do not know for sure, I have to ask Topchikha.
  • Eugen alpine
    Eugen alpine 30 May 2020 19: 17 New
    0
    Somehow the other left an impression: how free the approach to safety is. The instructor grabs the weapon, directs the barrel towards himself, jumps on the leg of the flamethrower. In our army, for this would have come from the military prosecutor's office, plus a flock of "soldiers' mothers" and other "ingenue" for TB. The deprivation of the company commander and com part - the bonus and the thirteenth is guaranteed! As a result, the training of a fighter suffers. We have. And they don't.
  • Blue fox
    Blue fox 30 May 2020 20: 37 New
    0
    I do not think backpacks are long obsolete weapons. The main effect of the flamethrower is psychological. Naturally, the conditions for its use are specific, but not so rare - fighting in trenches, blocking and destroying bunkers, caves, tunnels, kyarises (it is better to have a flamethrower, rather than a collective farm with cans and hand grenades), and backpack packs give an advantage over the same Bumblebee, in most cases they do not deprive them of the possibility of moving forward since they do not cause such destruction. Given the current specifics and trends, for the battles in urban development is a very imagine thing!
    Ps According to the assault on the Mannerheim line, the Finns were most afraid not of T-28s, SMK or KV-2, but of imperfect and very vulnerable flamethrower tanks, which terrified them and forced them to retreat with their one aimless flamethrower over the squares. And the Finns were then grated guys, with tanks stopped by a Molotov cocktail and a bunch of TNT checkers on a wooden handle.
  • Machete
    Machete 30 May 2020 20: 50 New
    0
    The flamethrowers were captured and will not be taken. Just meat.
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  • Private-K
    Private-K 31 May 2020 08: 40 New
    0
    It is necessary to train psycho-emotional resistance to a combat situation in a different way - the technique is known.
    And this is a Chinese circus.
  • Private-K
    Private-K 31 May 2020 08: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Blue Fox
    The main effect of the flamethrower is psychological.

    If simple - then it is.
    Fire fear is a normal human mental reaction.
    And this makes flamethrowers a valuable and useful weapon in assault operations. Especially if the positions taken by the pr-com are subject to rapid ignition.
  • Fishery
    Fishery 31 May 2020 15: 04 New
    -2
    Well, for example, for chemists, or they are infection and sanction)) they will shoot from bumblebees or something .... and so go to the rear of a shed with a hut to burn)) conveniently
  • Kosh
    Kosh 31 May 2020 18: 18 New
    +1
    In China, knapsack flamethrowers remain in service based on the experience of their battles with Vietnam in the late 1970s and mid-1980s. They are widely armed with analogs of our "Bumblebees", etc., but they reasonably believe that these are weapons for different niches. The knapsack flamethrower can still serve well during battles in dense forests and when clearing dense urban areas, where clashes often unfold at a distance of several tens of meters or even less.
    1. vonWolfenstein
      vonWolfenstein 3 June 2020 12: 01 New
      0
      I agree that the Chinese as zealous owners are in no hurry to get rid of the old, and are trying to find more effective use for it. Each army has its own specifics of the proposed theater. You can’t call anyone Chinese fools, and if they hold knapsack flamethrowers, then it’s necessary