Yttrium Discord: China's rare-earth metals initiative could trigger a crisis in the US nuclear industry

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In China, the question of how to respond to the new restrictive measures introduced against the PRC by the United States of America is being discussed. Against the background of agreements on a partial reduction of duties, Washington unexpectedly announced such a restriction as a ban on the entry into the United States of scientists and graduate students from the People's Republic of China. This decision was personally made by Donald Trump and is explained as a measure of protecting US intellectual property and technology.

First of all, we are talking about the ban on entry into the United States of those Chinese scientists who, as stated, "support the course on the merger of military and civilian technologies." Particular emphasis is placed on activities related to medical and biological work.



In China, they said that such a decision was considered discriminatory and said that the US administration itself was undermining the foundations of scientific and technical cooperation.

One of the areas where China is ready to retaliate against the United States is the export of rare earth metals, without which today it is impossible to develop a number of high-tech industries.

To date, China has managed to become the largest producer of rare earth metals. In 2018, it accounted for 70-plus percent of the entire global market. At the same time, China previously noted the problem of the illegal export of rare earth metals to North America.

Thus, it is said about the export to the United States of such a rare-earth metal as yttrium, whose US reserves are not enough for the implementation of numerous projects. China is a leader in the extraction of this metal. In the USA, yttrium and its alloys are used, among other things, in the military, space, rocket and nuclear industries. According to the latest data, the development of a nuclear missile power plant based on yttrium alloy is underway. And this rare-earth material is used due to the fact that it does not interact with melts of uranium and plutonium.

A compound such as yttrium tetraboride YB is used in the US nuclear industry.4.

This material has unique characteristics that allow it to be used as a basis for creating control rods of nuclear reactors.

If China completely closes the export of yttrium to the United States, this will cause a crisis in the entire nuclear industry. A sort of "yttrium of contention." That is why the United States decided to intensify negotiations with Japan, which also has yttrium reserves. But the problem is that the field is deep-sea, which means its development can be associated with huge costs.
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    1. +13
      30 May 2020 11: 14
      At the same time, China previously noted the problem of the illegal export of rare earth metals to North America.
      So what's the matter, now we just need to bring it into legal norms ... in the USA they will howl ...
      1. +9
        30 May 2020 12: 04
        Quote: svp67
        At the same time, China previously noted the problem of the illegal export of rare earth metals to North America.
        So what's the matter, now we just need to bring it into legal norms ... in the USA they will howl ...

        I remember in the 90s such metals were simply exported from Russia in suitcases (for example, for testing))) .. And also such metals are not bad deposits in the DPRK, and due to this they stick!
        Come on China, push the Anglo-Saxons, Russia will support hi ..
        1. +1
          30 May 2020 12: 50
          That is why the United States decided to intensify negotiations with Japan, which also has yttrium reserves.
          But the problem is that the field is deep-sea, which means its development can be associated with huge costs.
          Moreover, what is interesting!

          It is possible that as a result of these Japanese-American negotiations - on the same yttrium - Japan, not just like that, emboldened, has recently stepped up its activity against the Russian Federation in the issue of Japan navigating into the 4 Russian Kuril Islands and almost to Sakhalin.

          In exchange for such anti-Russian support of the Japanese government from the United States, Japan must clearly pay the United States with something! And I do not exclude that Japan may well pay off the United States with Japanese yttrium as well.
          1. -6
            30 May 2020 13: 03
            Quote: Tatiana
            In exchange for such anti-Russian support of the Japanese government from the United States, Japan must clearly pay the United States with something! And I do not exclude that Japan may well pay off the United States with Japanese yttrium as well.

            You are clever Tatyana ours! love
            As they say, see the root .. And all this is painfulness, this is external noise, always was! .. hi
          2. 0
            31 May 2020 02: 10
            Quote: Tatiana
            It is possible that as a result of these Japanese-American negotiations - on the same yttrium - Japan, not just like that, emboldened, has recently stepped up its activity against the Russian Federation in the issue of Japan navigating into the 4 Russian Kuril Islands and almost to Sakhalin.

            In the southern Kuril Islands, the deposit is not yttrium, but rhenium. But also needed sharp-earth metal.
            1. +5
              31 May 2020 02: 32
              Quote: Gritsa
              In the southern Kuril Islands, the deposit is not yttrium, but rhenium. But also needed sharp-earth metal.

              The Japanese Kuril Islands need their own. There they have everything they need to maintain their economic standard of living.
              Previously, Japan held a monopoly on high technologies in instrument and computer engineering, etc., in the Asian market. Now these technologies are possessed by South Korea and China, which moved Japan to this sales market. Japanese revenue fell. They now need to reimburse them.
              Japan can maintain its former standard of living by extracting rich biological resources from the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, as well as by extracting minerals there.
              In addition, the Kuril Islands make it possible to become an excellent US military base in Japan, as the United States is not going to leave Japan and lose its geostrategic military advantage in the Pacific.
        2. -2
          31 May 2020 00: 27
          Avai China, push the Anglo-Saxons, Russia will support

          We will be next, after the "Saxons"
        3. 0
          3 June 2020 19: 39
          hi
          Quote: Mudavius
          Come on China, push the Anglo-Saxons, Russia will support

          hmm .. the Angles are Germans, the Saxons are Germans too ... why didn’t the Germans please you today? wassat
      2. +4
        30 May 2020 12: 09
        Discord, mother oil will grow up.
        1. +3
          30 May 2020 12: 21
          And gas father too !!! smile
          1. 0
            30 May 2020 18: 28
            By the way ... and in Russia there is this same yttrium in the format of fields suitable for exploitation?
        2. 0
          30 May 2020 18: 23
          Quote: Civil
          Discord, mother oil will grow up.

          And Rosatom's clientele will also grow.
        3. +1
          4 June 2020 09: 29
          I never understood the joys of selling oil and gas. This is an irreplaceable resource, which means selling it now to others, we will leave it to ourselves in the future. I do not think that you are involved in the sharing of profits from the sale of oil today.
      3. +3
        30 May 2020 13: 47
        And yttrium mining under water in Japan could lead to another tsunami ...
        Problems however. bully
        1. +1
          30 May 2020 15: 13
          And yttrium mining underwater in Japan ...


          A strange thing ... Such elements just do not wallow in the universe.
          Full of hydrogen, full of helium, nitrogen, carbon, iron and oxygen. What else is there? But gold and all sorts of heavier rubbish appears only in the depths of healthy stars. Such as our Sun can "give birth" only "consumer goods", and even then burned out.
          And then what happens? What is cosmic dust heterogeneous? There is gold, there is yttrium, there is uranium ... Gathered in a lump and crashed (or stuck) to the Earth. But this is nonsense. But how else to explain the deposits? Not even, namely in China, or gold - also in specific places.
          Are there geologists? Explain.
          1. +6
            30 May 2020 15: 33
            Quote: dauria
            What is cosmic dust heterogeneous? There is gold, there is yttrium, there is uranium ...

            The earth is very lucky. While the Sun and the planets were still dust, two neutron stars crashed against each other not far off. In this case, extremely heavy elements are formed, behind the iron. Our dust cloud slowed down the radioactive envelope from this supernova, and thanks to this we have "pieces of iron" from nickel to uranium. Well, I was very lucky with the distance. A little closer, everything would be swept away, neither the Sun nor the Earth. A little further - such crumbs would have been poured - even photosynthesis had nothing to arrange.
            By the way, when the Earth was already formed, uranium-235 was almost 5% in the mixture. Take it, clean it, and right into the reactor. Did not make it...
            1. +1
              30 May 2020 15: 51
              A little further - such crumbs would have passed - even there was nothing to arrange photosynthesis on.


              Thank you, something cleared up. But it still doesn't work with deposits. I thought, as in "The Hyperboloid of Engineer Garin" - they gurgled in liquid form side by side, divided by density. Then, by convection currents, a piece of a layer of gold (uranium, etc.) was captured by a jet and carried to the surface. It froze in the bark and, voila! - here's the Klondike. Yes, there is such a cocktail, yes, with a dynamo, that there would be enough time to "settle"?
              Well, about "lucky" - so it's a miracle. If you add everything up, and add a meeting between mom and dad to all the accidents - you scratch your turnip and say, "Well, damn it, you give nature." laughing
              1. +5
                30 May 2020 17: 28
                Deposits are hydrothermal. Lithophilic elements (with a high affinity for silicon) are dissolved in hot water (up to 700 ° C), with sulfur and silicon, and carried up. These are uranium, rare earths, light metals (lumin, magnesium). Lithophobic - gold, iron, nickel - as a rule, do not go up, they get to the surface if they are pushed out in a solid state by geological forces (indigenous deposits of gold formed 500 million - 2,5 billion years ago, and millions and hundreds of thousands of years came to the surface back).
                There is a lot of yttrium in the earth's crust - 26 g per ton of soil. Only there he is - in separate atoms. And they extract it from salts, with a concentration hundreds of times greater. His price is 100 ye per kg. Not impressive, almost like whiskey (barley moonshine).
          2. +2
            30 May 2020 21: 12
            the limit of thermonuclear fusion is iron, further it is energetically disadvantageous to synthesize, therefore everything that is heavier than iron is already a product or supernovae, but there are restrictions on the mass of the star, too heavy stars can even perform a direct collapse and there won't even be a black hole, but this is rare: )
            but for elements such as uranium, even a supernova may not be enough there, it is already a product of a collision of neutron stars, which is called a hypernova, the energies there are orders of magnitude higher than that of a simple supernova, and collisions of neutron stars are not such a rare phenomenon, because . 80% of the stars are paired :)
          3. +1
            31 May 2020 02: 18
            Quote: dauria
            But how else to explain the deposits? Not even, namely in China, or gold - also in specific places.
            Are there geologists? Explain.

            There are still different conditions for the formation of minerals (and, accordingly, deposits). Something like temperature, pressure, tectonic structure, bedding conditions, composition of hydromineral solutions. Naturally, they cannot be the same in all corners of the planet. Therefore, there are unique deposits of minerals and rocks in a single copy. For example, have you heard about the Charoite deposit in BAM? So here it is the only one in the world. And there are many such cases.
            (former geologist)
            1. 0
              31 May 2020 05: 46
              On the river Char. The second unofficial name is Pushkin (in honor of Pushkin A.S.). But a similar mineral was found in Brazil. In general, each field is unique, including in the composition of the elements.
    2. +3
      30 May 2020 11: 18
      "I found a scythe on a stone" (c). As if the sparks from this did not flare up into a blazing fire.
      1. +5
        30 May 2020 12: 06
        Quote: aszzz888
        "I found a scythe on a stone" (c). As if the sparks from this did not flare up into a blazing fire.

        The United States has a gut to go to an open war .. Here they can pit off, there is such a risk! hi
        1. +4
          30 May 2020 12: 10
          Online
          Mudavius ​​Today, 12:06 PM
          0
          Mericatos docks arrange all sorts of dirty tricks. They have it in their blood when the indigenous tribes of the Indians were pitted, and then their forts were placed on their bones. hi
          1. +1
            30 May 2020 13: 07
            Quote: aszzz888
            Online
            Mudavius ​​Today, 12:06 PM
            0
            Mericatos docks arrange all sorts of dirty tricks. They have it in their blood when the indigenous tribes of the Indians were pitted, and then their forts were placed on their bones. hi

            Okay etched .. They sold blankets to them from under the smallpox infected and .. They grinned. When whole settlements died out ..
            The same blacks are being destroyed
            There is a lot of blood on them !!!
            1. +1
              31 May 2020 10: 18
              Mudavius ​​(Now they will wet) Yesterday, 13:07 NEW
              +1
              Okay etched .. They sold blankets to them from under the smallpox infected and .. They grinned. When whole settlements died out ..
              The same blacks are being destroyed
              There is a lot of blood on them !!!
              Not like "a lot of blood" !!! , they live on it, and feed on it like vampires. angry
        2. +1
          31 May 2020 02: 24
          Quote: Mudavius
          The United States has a thin gut to go to war open.

          Yesterday, Y. Kedmi said that even in the 50s, the Chinese in Korea piled on the United States. When the arms of the parties were simply not comparable. And now, when China has a modern and well-armed army - and even more so the Americans have nothing to catch. They know that.
          1. -1
            31 May 2020 10: 14
            Gritsa (Alexander) Today, 02:24 ....
            Yesterday, Y. Kedmi said that even in the 50s, the Chinese in Korea piled on the United States. When the arms of the parties were simply not comparable. And now that China has a modern and well-armed army - and even more so the Americans have nothing to catch. They know that.
            Well, the show-off must be cut! wink
    3. +11
      30 May 2020 11: 28
      If the Chinese decide on such a step, then they will be able to applaud. But it is only in trade with the United States that China does not risk making sudden movements on naivety (?) Or any other considerations thinking that it will resolve itself. But it does not always resolve.
      1. -14
        30 May 2020 11: 42
        China may not be making sudden movements in response to US sanctions. So we, in addition to mumble about the violation of some norms of some law, there is no answer. And there will be, at least with this power.
        1. +10
          30 May 2020 13: 51
          This power has taken Crimea from under the nose of the United States.
          Pipelines from KSA and Qatar through Syria to Turkey were not allowed.
          Do not forget about these and many other examples. bully
          1. -9
            30 May 2020 15: 02
            Crimea stole since almost Ukrainians brought it on a silver platter with a yellow-black patch, with their stupid actions. But Donbass was not taken away, but cut into pieces like a tail to a dog.
            1. +6
              30 May 2020 16: 24
              Do you know the swing? So the more they push Svidomo in one direction, the stronger they will then fly in the opposite direction. You see. hi
            2. +11
              30 May 2020 17: 00
              Ukrainians brought it on a silver platter with a yellow-black patch

              Yes, of course. bully
              In order for what happened to happen, workshops were made, focused efforts for a long time.
              1) Secrecy was ensured. The Yankers did not suspect anything until the last. I was not too lazy, I went to their website where a tender was announced for the re-equipment of the Sevastopol school for the needs of the American Navy.
              Now they figured out how much they got into a mess and therefore can not stop - they still emanate with anger and sanctions. bully
              2) "Quite by accident", Yanukovych refused to sign the Association Agreement with Europe (just as "accidentally" he received money from Russia for this) bully
              3) Yanukovych turned to Russia for military assistance. If he had received it, or if he had not signed a memorandum with the opposition with the ambassadors, and the opposition had not taken him out of Kiev the next day, we would not have seen Crimea as his ears.
              4) Everywhere the topic was already discussed that the leaders of the coup received a harsh warning about the inadmissibility of a military reaction in the Crimea. Tymoshenko told everything.
              So those who think that everything happened by itself do not understand anything about how beautifully Vladimir Vladimirovich played this "multi-move". hi
          2. -2
            30 May 2020 16: 36
            Pipelines from KSA and Qatar through Syria to Turkey were not allowed.
            What a joy.
            Especially for those in Russia who are heated with wood and coal.
            1. +8
              30 May 2020 17: 08
              Yes. Joy. If you do not trade and do not make a profit, then what are the chances to build ships, planes, rockets and other things useful for independence?
              Or do you want us to have everything like Zelensky? Controlled by overseas?
              I can say a lot about this topic. The format does not allow. bully
              Do you personally drown with wood?
              1. -1
                30 May 2020 18: 48
                First, and on what shisha did the Stalinist Union build everything?
                About Zelensky is not necessary, already reduces cheekbones from boredom.
                I personally - no, but there are many cities and villages, de they do it.
                1. -4
                  30 May 2020 19: 08
                  First, and on what shisha did the Stalinist Union build everything?

                  You will not like my answer, but I have no other answer for you:
                  The Stalinist Union was a slave state.
                  I mean the GULAG, and "sharashki", and the lack of passports among the rural population, and mass executions, and much more.
                  The entire older generation has suffered from repression.
                  So I know how it was first hand.
                  The child in his hands held certificates of rehabilitation, due to the lack of corpus delicti.
                  Therefore, Stalin died as he died.
                  About Zelensky is not necessary, already reduces cheekbones from boredom.

                  Your cheekbones would not have been reduced so if you had lived in the Stalinist Union.
                  I personally - no

                  And I had no doubt.
                  I have nothing more to say to you. As it is.
                  1. +5
                    30 May 2020 20: 34
                    It has long been proven that the cost-effectiveness of the Gulag was lower than the plinth. C / X even then, even now, even with passports, even without a breakthrough, development can not. In general, slave labor is ineffective. Therefore, one must be completely without logic in the brain in order to correlate the colossal development of the USSR under Stalin with slave labor.
                    1. -1
                      30 May 2020 20: 39
                      Enlighten the foolish due to what was a tremendous development?
                      Do not forget to mention the position in which you work.
                      To make it clear which belfry you are reasoning with.
                      1. 0
                        11 June 2020 15: 01
                        The main factor in the development of the USSR under Stalin was the resettlement of peasants in cities with competent !!! approach to investment and generally to industrialization. All developed countries used this resource at one time and received powerful development. The last to date was China.
                        1. 0
                          11 June 2020 15: 18
                          Knowledge of the economy is not your forte. laughing
                        2. 0
                          11 June 2020 15: 28
                          I do not pretend to be Mishustin, but certainly stronger than yours. I haven’t heard anything intelligible yet.
                        3. 0
                          11 June 2020 15: 32
                          The main factor in the development of the USSR under Stalin was the resettlement of peasants in cities

                          To this I can say one thing: amazing! laughing
                          The topic of the post remained unsolved.
                          I do not pretend to be Mishustin, but certainly stronger than yours.

                          Chatter with the transition to the individual. bully
                        4. 0
                          11 June 2020 16: 15
                          From you even a chatter did not wait. Exclamation only.
                        5. 0
                          11 June 2020 16: 31
                          - Yes, you KO..L!
                          - Is that me KO..L?
                          “You don’t look like a GOAT!”
                          - I don’t look like that?
                          JOKE. bully
                  2. +7
                    30 May 2020 20: 37
                    Old, creaking and lying barrel organ, my friend.
                    The child in his hands held certificates of rehabilitation, due to the lack of corpus delicti.

                    My parents were in the Northern Urals, too, by the will of Stalin. Father and brother, like a Volga German, with my grandmother.
                    And the mother’s parents were dispossessed, although they were middle peasants.
                    But not once have we children heard damnation from Stalin from them.
                    But on the day of Stalin's funeral, the whole city cried. Even I, baby, remember that.
                    And yet, what is important, too many of the "innocent" repressed then killed the Union.
                    1. -5
                      30 May 2020 21: 48
                      Old, creaking and lying barrel organ, my friend.

                      Unlike you, I don't have Stockholm Syndrome. bully
                      And yet, what is important, too many of the "innocent" repressed then killed the Union.

                      This is not important because it is false. bully
                      And my parents honestly worked for the good of the USSR.
                      And I love my country. I do everything I can for its prosperity.
                      Do not write to me. I have already said that it is not necessary. Till! smile
          3. -5
            30 May 2020 20: 29
            "I didn’t allow pipelines from KSA and Qatar through Syria to Turkey."

            Through Kuwait - Iraq it would be even closer to Turkey. As for Syria, this is a fake. It’s not us that ISIS did not allow to carry out with the Kurds.
          4. -4
            31 May 2020 00: 36
            Something I misunderstood:
            Pipelines from KSA and Qatar through Syria to Turkey were not allowed.
            ISIS at least stretched out gas pipelines? recourse And Russia, then bombed these competitors of Gazprom, a quarter of which is owned by Qatar. So, the genius of geostrategy.
      2. +4
        30 May 2020 11: 52
        Naive and does not smell, the United States for China is the main trading partner.
        1. 0
          30 May 2020 12: 07
          If you noticed I wrote
          naively (?) or some other considerations
        2. -3
          30 May 2020 12: 09
          Quote: kenig1
          Naive and does not smell, the United States for China is the main trading partner.

          Not anymore ! This is China for the USA a cash cow and those to whom they owe a couple of trillions in treasury bills .. negative
      3. +5
        30 May 2020 12: 09
        China is very difficult to suspect in naivety. We like to mention the state’s import dependence as an economic disadvantage of the state, but for some reason they forget about its dependence on exports. And these are the same headaches. In China, they are well aware of this and prefer not to make sudden movements.
      4. +2
        30 May 2020 12: 26
        Doesn’t run the risk of making sudden movements by naivety (?) or any other considerations thinking that it will resolve itself. And it does not always resolve


        There are no more countries on earth that will take the loss. Therefore, as long as there is no contact with extraterrestrial economies, China will be extremely careful.

        I’ll just remind you that even now their goods turnover is more than the Russian budget. And under Obama, they seriously wanted to go to a trillion dollars.
      5. +2
        30 May 2020 13: 04
        Quote: rotmistr60
        China does not risk making sudden movements

        It may not be sharp, but annoying - LNG, and even soybeans - a message flashed today that China again bought soybeans from Brazil, despite the fact that it is more expensive than the state, so farmers in the states may not be delighted (about 17 million t. a year went to China), and here the elections are coming up ...
      6. +2
        30 May 2020 13: 53
        If the Chinese decide on such a step, then they will be able to applaud.

        When the Japanese were very proactive about the islands, China suspended supply of rare-earth elements for 3 months. And everything calmed down by itself.
        So with the determination and accuracy of moves, the Chinese are all right. hi
    4. 0
      30 May 2020 11: 29
      Large yttrium deposits are available in China, the United States, Australia, Canada, Brazil, and Malaysia.
      There are also deep-water reserves of yttrium in Japan .. I don’t think they will howl .. They will find someone to buy .. It’s enough to offer a good price .. And for China, this is a loss of the market ..
      1. +2
        30 May 2020 11: 43
        one wink okay, yes, yttrium is like coal, I got it into the furnace as well.
        1. -2
          30 May 2020 11: 47
          Quote: sabakina
          one oky, yes, yttrium is like coal, I got it into the furnace as well.

          It is not coal, but it is mined in the above countries .. Do you think ittrite is practiced only in China?
          The answer to the sanctions should be equivalent, which should not harm their economy .. Well, let's say they refuse yttrite .. Are there many countries in the world that need this yttrite in such volumes? I think not ..
          1. +1
            30 May 2020 13: 57
            In the era of coronavirus, everything becomes much more complicated than usual.
            Brazil speak? Oh well...
            Only China was able to take and transfer 40 doctors to Wuhan.
            No one except them. hi
            And as I said above - they do not need to forever refuse supplies. 3 months was enough for the Japanese to realize and correct everything. wink
            1. -8
              30 May 2020 14: 11
              Quote: Alex777
              No one except them.

              Well, of course .. The entrances to the entrance were also concreted, and much was done to curb the mass death of the population .. Sanctions are effective only when they do not hit their own population and the state as a whole .. Well, they will refuse to sell yttrium to the USA, which is a large exporter from China by yttrium .. Will have to look for new buyers by the same volumes .. Who will take them? Can you name at least three countries that can buy everything that the United States buys?
              P, C, I remember when Russia declared sanctions to the EU countries on fruits and vegetables .. The EU suffered losses. I had to prepare everything for Russia to put into the domestic market and lower prices in order to sell everything .. The European consumer won the population, and the farmers suffered losses. .And at that time in Russia the population suffered, fruits and vegetables went up in price, speculators increased prices ...
              Yttrium is certainly not fruits and vegetables, but a failure can lead to the closure of some deposits or reductions ..
              1. -1
                30 May 2020 14: 23
                And as I said above - they do not need to forever refuse supplies. 3 months was enough for the Japanese to realize and correct everything.
              2. ANB
                +4
                30 May 2020 17: 54
                . And at that time in Russia the population suffered - fruits and vegetables went up in price, speculators raised prices ...

                Take a ride in the Kuban. There are so many new gardens laid down and continue to be laid.
                And after the Soviet era, I saw normal normal juice of direct extraction only after 2015. And all of ours.
                1. -4
                  30 May 2020 18: 13
                  Quote: ANB
                  Take a ride in the Kuban. There are so many new gardens laid down and continue to be laid

                  In the Southern region I saw a lot of things .. And the Chinese greenhouses saw where the tomatoes are grown .. Only the stink per kilometer was .. Tomatoes sucks
                  Quote: ANB
                  And after the Soviet era, I saw normal normal juice of direct extraction only after 2015. And all of ours.

                  Strange .. Sanctions were necessary for a simple citizen of Russia to be able to drink ordinary direct-squeezed apple juice .... Mdaa ... And before that it was difficult to do this?
                  1. ANB
                    0
                    30 May 2020 18: 17
                    . Sanctions were necessary, so that a simple citizen of Russia could drink ordinary direct-squeezed apple juice .... Mdaa ... And before that it was difficult to do this?

                    Yes, definitely. Either the socialist planned economy, or import sanctions. After all, it was imports in the 90s that killed our gardens and real juice with them.
                    1. -4
                      30 May 2020 18: 21
                      Quote: ANB
                      After all, it was imports in the 90s that killed our gardens and real juice with them.

                      Import is simply profitable .. You don’t have to bother yourself and the kickbacks are good .. Everyone is happy .. But the population drinks chemical juice, they don’t give a damn ... That's how effective managers worked (D) ..
                      1. ANB
                        0
                        30 May 2020 18: 27
                        . That's how effective managers worked (D).

                        And nothing to interrupt. Only forcibly imposed restrictions. Putin will not put his juice plant.
                      2. ANB
                        +1
                        30 May 2020 18: 29
                        . that the population drinks chemical juice, nobody cares

                        No, I'm buying my normal. Fortunately, he appeared.
                        And I take only Taman wines, well, to the Crimean extreme.
                  2. ANB
                    +3
                    30 May 2020 18: 21
                    . And the Chinese greenhouses saw where the tomatoes are grown.

                    Where did you find them in the Kuban? In the Far East, yes, in the 90s there was a dominance of Chinese and not edible tomatoes. And for the third year in a row, I’ve been driving to the Kuban and eating local tomatoes on vacation. 20 r per kilo. Particularly varietal for 50.
                    1. -3
                      30 May 2020 18: 22
                      Quote: ANB
                      Where did you find them in the Kuban?

                      I saw in Adygea.
                      1. ANB
                        +1
                        30 May 2020 18: 25
                        No, I won’t say for Adygea, I mainly ride on Tamansky, there are definitely no Chinese there and the tomatoes are delicious.
                        I wonder where and how much do the Chinese manage to sell theirs?
                        1. 0
                          30 May 2020 18: 39
                          Quote: ANB
                          I wonder where and how much do the Chinese manage to sell theirs?

                          Honestly, I don’t know. Rather, they push on the cheap. But she sucks completely ..
                        2. ANB
                          -1
                          30 May 2020 18: 42
                          . Honestly, I don’t know. Rather, they push on the cheap. But she sucks completely ..

                          I suppose they are moving to Moscow under the guise of Krasnodar.
                        3. 0
                          30 May 2020 18: 45
                          Quote: ANB
                          I suppose they are moving to Moscow under the guise of Krasnodar.

                          It’s possible .. Most likely
                        4. 0
                          31 May 2020 00: 49
                          Quote: ANB
                          I wonder where and how much do the Chinese manage to sell theirs?

                          Apparently mainly to the Far East. In addition, soon the labor force in the outback of Russia will be cheaper than in China. The greed of local authorities scares away the Chinese from building a monumental production, and the modern greenhouse is a highly intelligent and high-tech product. In online stores, Chinese pears are no cheaper than Russian apples and no tastier.
                      2. -1
                        31 May 2020 00: 40
                        Quote: lonely
                        I saw in Adygea.

                        As far as I know, large greenhouses are owned by Muscovites and are built using Dutch technology. Adygs and Circassians strive to grow according to domestic technology using chemistry to a minimum. Recently, the Circassians have been striving to enter the market through the chain stores under the brand name "Products of Caucasian Centennials". Chinese greenhouses 5 years ago lagged behind Dutch ones in terms of technology. And the Chinese showed interest in Dutch technology even through Russia. It is interesting that large numbers of greenhouses have also been built in the DPRK. Last year there was a lot of talk about the imminent famine in the DPRK. Apparently the measures taken, including the development of greenhouse technology, allowed Koreans to avoid hunger. And it would be useful for our businessmen to buy greenhouse technology from friendly Koreans, and not from hostile Dutch, for cheaper oil.
    5. 0
      30 May 2020 11: 38
      Everything in this world has really intertwined into a single tangle of relationships, to one degree or another beneficial to most participants.
      There is a cool idea, a desire to ruin it all, to the benefit of one.
      The question is, and the rest will stand aside and silently look at it?
      1. 0
        30 May 2020 14: 26
        The question is that the possibilities of the USA are not unlimited.
        But it is not known exactly where this border passes.
        When the States find out, there may be unexpected surprises. wink
        1. 0
          30 May 2020 14: 54
          Yankee behavior / actions, this is generally a difficult question for everyone around. Especially now.
          1. -1
            30 May 2020 17: 16
            They cannot repay a debt of 27 trillion without returning their entire industry back and not starting to receive taxes from it.
            Now these taxes are received by anyone, but not the States. Therefore, debt is growing continuously. Moreover, its growth is accelerating.
            Trump really does this. But he does not have enough time and support. hi
            1. +1
              30 May 2020 18: 17
              Trump is the president for America, this is not a question at all.
              But it’s not easier for everyone around ... it may not be otherwise, never again.
              This is their business. Themselves, themselves.
            2. 0
              31 May 2020 15: 44
              they didn’t plan to give anything back, not for that the scammers borrow.
              1. 0
                31 May 2020 16: 19
                They even have a law prohibiting payment to those whom the States have officially recognized as their enemy.
                In the process, China will try to drag under it.
                But we don’t need to go there at all. For the time being.
    6. +2
      30 May 2020 11: 41
      If yes, if mushrooms grow in your mouth. The Chinese have not yet been able to step on any corn to the Americans. Yes, it seems, and they can’t. Most likely, their authorities understand that while they are not ready to stay only with their domestic market, it is difficult to do without the American one.
      1. -1
        30 May 2020 14: 31
        Remember Churchill?
        When you choose between war and shame, choose war.
        If you choose shame, you will get both shame and war.

        And the Chinese still have Sun Tzu with his "Art of War." wink
    7. +5
      30 May 2020 11: 41
      This is just one of the critical dependences of the United States on China ... I believe that without cheap Chinese goods, the most ordinary ones, the wallet of any American citizen will "lose weight" significantly ... My friend from the United States, at my request, looking around, at least half of what is home, discovered Chinese-made.
      And he is the middle-middle class, the technical intelligentsia. laughing
      1. -2
        30 May 2020 11: 56
        not less than half of what is in the house, discovered Chinese-made

        We would also like to look around. More than half are Chinese, if not 90%. And everything else is Turkish, Indian, Egyptian, etc. Only their officials. And that’s not really.
        1. +3
          30 May 2020 12: 37
          Quote: Souchastnik
          We would also like to look around. More than half are Chinese, if not 90%.

          Are we at war with China? Or are we going? In weapons, we have less and less imports ... well, if a little bit is left somewhere. And it is quite possible to do without much around us. If it really gets "hot" ...
          1. -1
            31 May 2020 14: 24
            You would have to fight everything. Together we will leave for the partisan detachment.
            People want them to have normal cars, home appliances, good medicine and education, in addition to ammunition and stew. They want to watch domestic films and eat our food, drink our drinks. And I really want to drive a domestic car, which would be no worse than Japanese or German. But something, or someone looks at these questions differently.
        2. -1
          31 May 2020 01: 46
          Quote: Souchastnik
          not less than half of what is in the house, discovered Chinese-made

          We would also like to look around. More than half are Chinese, if not 90%. And everything else is Turkish, Indian, Egyptian, etc. Only their officials. And that’s not really.

          Such as you passed the USSR for chewing gum, jeans, toilet paper and Hollywood films.
          1. 0
            31 May 2020 02: 32
            Quote: Quadro
            Such as you passed the USSR for chewing gum, jeans, toilet paper and Hollywood films.

            and what prevented the native party from giving chewing gum, jeans, toilet paper and Hollywood films to its native people?
          2. 0
            31 May 2020 14: 27
            Such as you passed the USSR for chewing gum, jeans, toilet paper and Hollywood films.

            Do not understand the essence of your claims? Why did you decide that I passed something?
            It looks like a bunch in a barrel.
        3. 0
          31 May 2020 02: 29
          Quote: Souchastnik
          not less than half of what is in the house, discovered Chinese-made

          We would also like to look around. More than half are Chinese, if not 90%. And everything else is Turkish, Indian, Egyptian, etc. Only their officials. And that’s not really.

          hehe, today I threw out American glue, the dog dried up, by the way, domestic glues were good, but for some reason bourgeois ones crawled out onto the market instead of not together
    8. -8
      30 May 2020 11: 42
      And how did we respond to US sanctions?
    9. +1
      30 May 2020 11: 44
      Explained as U.S. Intellectual Property and Technology Protection

      the thief is the first to shout: 'Stop the thief!' ...
    10. +3
      30 May 2020 11: 55
      This is just a war, while the cold, between China and the United States.
      Only in the United States there are also uprisings now, with possible shootings.
      And do not forget about the elections, which promise to be very stormy.
      Have I already spoken about the epidemic and the economic crisis?
      Damn, bad year for America ...
      1. +1
        30 May 2020 12: 11
        Alexey, it is also worth adding an explosion (the fourth fiasco in the last six months) of the Starship interplanetary spacecraft prototype when testing the Raptor engine.
        1. +3
          30 May 2020 12: 18
          This is immaterial. There are risks of a private corporation.
          The only thing is the torn farts of those
          who drowned for the collapse of Russian cosmonautics in connection with this launch.
    11. +2
      30 May 2020 12: 05
      In fact, the reserves of rare-earth metals outside of China are enough for the development of modern industry, the problem is different - the cost of their extraction is an order of magnitude higher than the cost of mining in China.

      That is, the Americans, having begun to develop subsea deposits around some of the volcanic islands of Japan, will face the uncompetitiveness of their products on the foreign market.
    12. 0
      30 May 2020 12: 10
      So they kind of wrote about six months ago. The share of China in the United States is 17%, or 27%. Yes, there are reserves of their own.
      Kirsis? Hardly.
    13. +1
      30 May 2020 12: 10
      And what does Japan have to do with the Mariana Islands. A rare earth deposit is located from them. This is probably an attempt at joint development.
    14. -2
      30 May 2020 12: 52
      China is unlikely to do so.
      China is not a monopoly supplier in the market.
      Just a redistribution of sales markets.
      Those who used to buy, say, from Australia, will buy from China, and the States from Australians.
      And if Australia can produce more, so that it is enough for the Americans, China in general is in flight.
    15. +3
      30 May 2020 12: 55
      Quote: author
      В nuclear industry The United States uses a compound such as yttrium tetraboride YB4.

      This material has unique characteristics that allow it to be used as a basis for creating control rods of nuclear reactors.

      belay

      The TCR (Transformational Challenge Reactor) project was ONLY launched in 2019.
      It is reported that the fuel for this reactor will be uranium nitride, and the neutron moderator yttrium hydride (YHx), which is one of the most effective moderators, but now it is not used in nuclear power plants because of its high cost.


      fine-grained composites based on Y2.5Nd0.5Al5O12 garnet were developed and studied at NNGU ...

      Such compounds are useful for solving problems with the reserves of plutonium and other transuranic elements (MA, minor actinides) accumulated over many years.

      Yttrium tetraboride is still experimentally used as a material for controlling an atomic reactor (it has low gas evolution in helium and hydrogen).

      Almost all operating nuclear power plants were built between 1967-1990,
      Virgil C. Summer 2 & 3- Failure

      Itrium is used here
      Yttrium is one of the components of yttrium-copper-barium ceramics with the general formula YBa2Cu3O7-δ - promising high-temperature superconductor with a superconducting transition temperature of about 90 ° K.

      Yttrium beryllide is one of the best structural materials for aerospace engineering.. Melting at a temperature of about 1920 ° C, it begins to oxidize in air at 1670 ° C. The specific strength of such a material is very high, and when using it as a matrix for filling with whiskers (whiskers), it is possible to create materials having unique strength and elastic characteristics.

      Europium Activated Yttrium Oxosulfide Used for the Production of Phosphors in color television (red component), and activated with terbium - for black and white television.

      Yttrium hexaboride has a small work function (2,22 eV) and is used for the production of cathodes of powerful electron guns (electron beam welding and cutting in vacuum).

      Yttrium Orthotantalate It is synthesized and used for the production of radiopaque coatings.

      Synthesized yttrium-aluminum garnets ("cigranes") (YAG), which have valuable physicochemical properties, can be used in jewelry as well, and have long been used as technologically advanced and relatively cheap solid-state lasers. An important laser material is ISHG - yttrium-scandium-gallium garnet.

      Yttrium ferrite is used for the production of supercomputers, and although it is several times inferior to scandium ferrite, it is cheaper.

      Yttrium Iron Hydride used as a hydrogen battery with high capacity and quite cheap.

      In electronics, yttrium garnets are components of microwave radars to control high frequency signals. Laser crystals of yttrium aluminum garnet are used in industrial cutting and welding, in medicine, dentistry, photoluminescence, photochemistry, digital communications and nonlinear optics.
    16. -7
      30 May 2020 12: 55
      But what about stupid Militarians and a terrible education in the USA. Why do the Chinese even go to study in this backward country?
      1. -4
        30 May 2020 13: 16
        Quote: Courier
        But what about stupid Militarians and a terrible education in the USA. Why do the Chinese even go to study in this backward country?

        Because the retarded education in the SGA is only in the heads of those who have a mentality at the level of Pavlov’s dog and consists mainly of primary reflexes
        1. 0
          31 May 2020 01: 50
          Well, yes, that’s why dumb-headed students can’t do anything from there. Where, with their vaunted education, is nuclear power now? Would you answer? Maybe you know a super-duper secret working thermonuclear reactor and they don’t need an atom? And where are their tank factories? Why did the boasted education not help? All their abrashki are used rubbish, those capacities that can only be repaired and somehow assemble no more than 50 tanks. The worse in the SGA, the more freaky lackeys like you are furious.
          1. -1
            31 May 2020 06: 12
            Quote: Quadro
            Well, yes, that’s why dumb-headed students can’t do anything from there.

            Are you out of your mind ?! Massachusetts Institute of Technology and so on
            SGA refers to advanced technological countries :) And the fact that there are not many distant ones, well, the RF is filled with them; here you can take for example, do you decide a lot of things ?! I'm sure not, but you consider them fools, not yourself.

            Let me remind you that G. Ford has a new generation installation that does not require recharging during the entire service life, is it in other countries!? But this is not.
      2. -4
        30 May 2020 13: 17
        Quote: Courier
        But what about stupid Militarians and a terrible education in the USA. Why do the Chinese even go to study in this backward country?

        Because the retarded education in the SGA is only in the heads of those who have a mentality at the level of Pavlov’s dog and consists mainly of primary reflexes
    17. -1
      30 May 2020 13: 14
      According to the latest data, the development of a nuclear missile power plant is underway.


      Hey ?!
      1. 0
        30 May 2020 13: 39
        It has been created by them in the past and even tested. Why can't they re-create it?
        1. -2
          30 May 2020 15: 23
          I wonder what kind of unit, and not its moral component.
    18. 0
      30 May 2020 13: 37
      It would be nice to coordinate Russian titanium and Chinese rare earths.
      Yes, it will hit our economy, but ..
      1. -1
        30 May 2020 16: 21
        This is unacceptable for our officials, oligarchs. It is easier to sell raw materials than to make something.
        And it will not hit the economy if titanium products are used to manufacture aircraft manufactured in Russia. And then we sell raw materials, and we buy aircraft products.
      2. -3
        30 May 2020 17: 01
        Correctly !!! Let my cow die, but a neighbor without milk
    19. -4
      30 May 2020 13: 54
      The United States cut off China from US (all) technology.

      Until the end of summer, they will cut off Huawei from the chips, cut off Hong Kong, like a Chinese window to America, cut off Chinese students from the best universities in the world.

      For a long time, the Communists of the whole world drooled over China, saying how it overtakes the United States, when in reality there was no race.
      Now, let's see what China is without the American market, American technology, American investment and American science.
      1. -1
        30 May 2020 16: 24
        they can cut us off at any moment from everything, including the Internet. China itself will produce everything that is needed if there are no deliveries from other countries.
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      3. +1
        31 May 2020 01: 54
        Quote: Courier
        The United States cut off China from US (all) technology.

        Until the end of summer, they will cut off Huawei from the chips, cut off Hong Kong, like a Chinese window to America, cut off Chinese students from the best universities in the world.

        For a long time, the Communists of the whole world drooled over China, saying how it overtakes the United States, when in reality there was no race.
        Now, let's see what China is without the American market, American technology, American investment and American science.

        Sausage, half the world is already dependent on Chinese technology and the United States has long lagged behind in pace of development. They rely only on what they managed to plunder on the remains of the USSR. All phones are assembled in China, all computers too, China has a sea of ​​supercomputers, various electronics and engines are also produced there. But you have all the kholuy-podpendoskih speeches about the fact that the hehemon will still show! In the meantime, it is clear that he can’t even figure it out for himself.
    20. +1
      30 May 2020 14: 00
      well, well done Chinese, and with the actions of the USA it’s very interesting - refusal to enter biologists, break with WHO, as the United States tries to push ends into the water along the coronovirus so that the world does not get to the bottom of their laboratories
      1. +1
        31 May 2020 01: 56
        Quote: poquello
        well, well done Chinese, and with the actions of the USA it’s very interesting - refusal to enter biologists, break with WHO, as the United States tries to push ends into the water along the coronovirus so that the world does not get to the bottom of their laboratories

        So the scientist was banged, and the killer "shot himself." Typical Pendo work.
    21. 0
      30 May 2020 14: 02
      China threatens a lot, rarely acts. His economy is built by the United States and the United States is closed at 3 \ 4.
      1. +1
        30 May 2020 16: 26
        The export of goods to the USA, as the largest consumer, is the basis of their foreign economy
    22. 0
      30 May 2020 15: 35
      Is the nuclear industry still in the US? Atomic America, is it so ... atomic? !!
    23. -3
      30 May 2020 16: 17
      --80% of the imports of rare-earth elements in the United States are also provided by the Middle Kingdom, therefore, in the context of an intensification of trade confrontation between the countries, the Americans will probably want to diversify the sources of REE supplies. Russia's share in the global production of rare-earth elements is only 2%, however, according to Geological U.S. service, accounting for a quarter of their global stocks .--
      And our industrial oligarchs will try to take the market with pleasure. State officials will be happy to help them. We don’t need them, because we buy high-tech products. Previously, aircraft were made by us. Now we sell titanium products. Excuse is simple, because we buy airplanes.
    24. 0
      30 May 2020 18: 00
      Quote: Tatiana
      That is why the United States decided to intensify negotiations with Japan, which also has yttrium reserves.
      But the problem is that the field is deep-sea, which means its development can be associated with huge costs.
      Moreover, what is interesting!

      It is possible that as a result of these Japanese-American negotiations - on the same yttrium - Japan, not just like that, emboldened, has recently stepped up its activity against the Russian Federation in the issue of Japan navigating into the 4 Russian Kuril Islands and almost to Sakhalin.

      In exchange for such anti-Russian support of the Japanese government from the United States, Japan must clearly pay the United States with something! And I do not exclude that Japan may well pay off the United States with Japanese yttrium as well.

      why not ?! for just talking in support of whining, forcing japs ​​to serve their needs
    25. 0
      30 May 2020 22: 52
      Coercion to yttrium.
    26. 0
      31 May 2020 22: 21
      Talk less to Chinese, do more. Then the "exceptional" nationality will surely bend, and the military-industrial complex of the mattress will be covered with a copper basin

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