The press reported a "very tough" telephone conversation between Trump and Merkel on Nord Stream-2

The American media writes that due to the Nord Stream-2 project, which is being implemented to transport gas from Russia to the EU countries, serious disagreements arose between Germany and the United States.

For example, Politico writes about a telephone conversation between Donald Trump and Angela Merkel, during which Trump expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that Germany continues to carry out activities aimed at the construction of SP-2 after the introduction of America's sanctions.

Trump was annoyed that the Russian pipe-laying vessel Akademik Chersky called at the German port of Mukran.

Recall that it was this vessel after the departure of the special vessels of the Swiss company Allseas from the water area of ​​the Nord Stream-2 construction that came to the Baltic Sea from the port of Nakhodka to complete the construction of the gas pipeline.

The German press notes that Angela Merkel, in a conversation with the American president, recalled that Berlin does not support extraterritorial sanctions. It is added that the conversation was "very tough."

It is noted that the disagreement between Merkel and Trump arose not only on the issue of the gas pipeline, but also on the financial parameters of NATO activity and on relations with China. The United States notes that Trump once again pointed out to Merkel that Germany “did not bring the military budget to the required 2% by the charter of the North Atlantic Alliance.”

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[svp67]

In a crisis, everyone survives alone and the USA shows everyone an example in this, so what do you want from Germany

[APASUS]

Quote: svp67

In a crisis, everyone survives alone and the USA shows everyone an example in this, so what do you want from Germany

Trump wants to escape from the crisis alone and maintain influence on vassals. Independent steps of Europeans are instantly suppressed

[svp67]

Quote: APASUS

Trump wants to break out of the crisis alone and retain influence on vassals

He is trying to strengthen this influence.

[APASUS]

Quote: svp67

He is trying to strengthen this influence.

It’s more likely not even to strengthen, but to transfer from a partner’s state to a slave’s state.

[Mudavius]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: svp67

He is trying to strengthen this influence.

It’s more likely not even to strengthen, but to transfer from a partner’s state to a slave’s state.

Old Merkel will remain in the history of Germany as a shameful page .. (an anecdote even walks on the network for such a long time)
The most interesting thing is that she was the head of the society of the GDR "Friendship with the USSR" .. The litter of the USA and Israel. !!!

[Aviator_]

And ours was at the same time the director of the house of "Soviet-German friendship".

[Mudavius]

Quote: Aviator_

And ours was at the same time the director of the house of "Soviet-German friendship".

But with a pistol, he went out alone to the crowd and warned that when we attempted to attack, we opened fire and left .... The crowd dispersed in silence ... Was that so?

[Aviator_]

But with a gun came out alone to the crowd

It didn’t. A fake about a gun was coined at the beginning of the 8s, and quite clumsy. The young author of the fake did not know that the KGB's service weapon at that time was an 20-charge PM, well, in the extreme case, a 60-charge APS, very large-sized and withdrawn from service in the late 14s. And the author of the fake armed his hero with a XNUMX-shot pistol. Well, one cannot ignore Soviet weapons to such an extent. However, if the fake was written from somewhere with Brighton Beach, then this is natural.

[Ros 56]

No need to flog the fuck, Putin himself talked about this and about the PM, you yourself came up with about 14 charges.

[Aviator_]

No need to flog the fuck, Putin himself talked about it

About Putin himself - a storyteller from you the first I hear. Do not make our President such a cheap fan of show-offs. He is still the President of our country. About 14 rounds were in the original text.

[Ros 56]

There was a documentary. And about our intelligence in the GDR and about Marcus Wolf. There are many interesting things.
And where you dig some text do not tell.

[Aviator_]

The text is Internet, somewhere five years ago. Have you taken these cheap show-offs from this film?

[Aviator_]

In the opinion of the crowd of minusers, being the director of the house of "Soviet-German friendship" is a terrible sin.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: APASUS

It’s more likely not even to strengthen, but to transfer from a partner’s state to a slave’s state.

Hegemony - political, economic, military superiority, control of one state over others. This is what Trump is pushing.

[Alex777]

However, the cunning creation of this trump.
He himself says that he wants to "get along" with Russia.
That he does not want sanctions, but he is forced.
And Merkel himself is trying to jam.
But Merkel still surprised in her old age.
After this conversation, she does not go to the G7.
Busy they say, not to meet with Trump.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex777

However, the cunning creation of this trump.
He himself says that he wants to "get along" with Russia.
That he does not want sanctions, but he is forced.

And the devil himself will not understand their klopovnik.

[sl3]

For a long time slaves. They think partners.

[Doctor]

US needs subordinates

But he will not obey, they will not see what a woman can charge ...

[lucul]

Trump wants to escape from the crisis alone and maintain influence on vassals. Independent steps of Europeans are instantly suppressed

And at the time of the collapse of the USSR, it seemed that the West (civilization) was monolithic and indestructible - just a shining temple on a hill, an ideal that everyone should strive for, and that it will be so forever ...
It took 20 years of Putin’s rule to open people's eyes ... Who previously knew about the vassal dependence of Europe? ... Communists? So during perestroika we were taught not to believe them ....
20 years of rule - and such a difference in the worldview of people))) Compare yourself to your beloved in 2000 and now - how your worldview has changed ....

[fif21]

Quote: lucul

20 years of rule - and such a difference in the worldview of people))) Compare yourself to your beloved in 2000 and now - how your worldview has changed

Splicing oligarchic capital with power is called fascism?

[Alex777]

Somehow on the Internet, an interesting article came across.
Then I did not appreciate it, but now for some reason I can’t find it again.
The meaning of the article was that a completely new era was beginning in which states would begin to live by the principle - each for itself.
That the time of alliances and different blocs has come to an end.
It was written by the 2 co-chairs of the Davos forum 10 years ago.
And she came across to me after the election of Trump, as an example of the fact that this prediction began to come true.

[lucul]

It was written by the 2 co-chairs of the Davos forum 10 years ago.
And she came across to me after the election of Trump, as an example of the fact that this prediction began to come true.

Better Adventurer read))))

[Doliva63]

Quote: lucul

Trump wants to escape from the crisis alone and maintain influence on vassals. Independent steps of Europeans are instantly suppressed

And at the time of the collapse of the USSR, it seemed that the West (civilization) was monolithic and indestructible - just a shining temple on a hill, an ideal that everyone should strive for, and that it will be so forever ...
It took 20 years of Putin’s rule to open people's eyes ... Who previously knew about the vassal dependence of Europe? ... Communists? So during perestroika we were taught not to believe them ....
20 years of rule - and such a difference in the worldview of people))) Compare yourself to your beloved in 2000 and now - how your worldview has changed ....

20 years of Putin's "rule" could open their eyes to reality only for those for whom a doctor is no longer useful

[orionvitt]

Quote: APASUS

ramp wants to break out of the crisis alone

Alone, this is understandable. But the striped always did it at someone else's expense. The main principle of American politics, what is worse in the world, is better in the states there.

[iouris]

Quote: APASUS

Independent steps of Europeans are instantly suppressed

SP-2 is being built or not? If the actions of the Russian Federation are also "immediately suppressed", then the Russian Federation is "Europeans."

[Starover_Z]

Quote: svp67

In a crisis, everyone survives alone and the USA shows everyone an example in this, so what do you want from Germany

In Germany, they realize that they’ll sit on American LNG only, and all their independence will end. Well done, that they think!

[Goha]

If only. Conscious.

[Wolverine]

Quote: svp67

In a crisis, everyone survives alone and the USA shows everyone an example in this, so what do you want from Germany

Yes, the collapse of the alliance and the entire European Union is inevitable and Germany will show it first, Merkel chose Russia and did not lose.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Wolverine

Quote: svp67

In a crisis, everyone survives alone and the USA shows everyone an example in this, so what do you want from Germany

Yes, the collapse of the alliance and the entire European Union is inevitable and Germany will show it first, Merkel chose Russia and did not lose.

Until now, probably, quietly humming: Ein Sonnen kreis in blau und weiSS, das hat ein Junge gezeichnet ...

[venik]

Quote: svp67

In a crisis, everyone survives alone and the USA shows everyone an example in this, so what do you want from Germany

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How is what? Yes, so that the Germans promote the interests of the Americans (even to their detriment)! For if they say that "impudence is the second happiness", then the Yankees are surprisingly "happy" nation!

[avg]

Quote: svp67

In a crisis, everyone survives alone and the USA shows everyone an example in this, so what do you want from Germany

Really, what are you pestering? Estonia compensates for everything.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: svp67

In a crisis, everyone survives alone

In big politics, this is the prevailing principle. Always not only in a crisis. We often scold the United States for its expansionist actions, such as the "Ukraine" project or the expansion of the influence of the NATO bloc. And this simply means that our guards have ceded these borders, and they rule there are not economists and engineers of the USSR / RF, but specialists of the same americos, the Deutsches are very active in mastering our left borders. NATO becomes impudent just as much as we allow them to do so.

[Fedor Sokolov]

The Intermarium project is bursting at the seams; it is in no way possible to separate Russian hydrocarbons from German technologies and investments.

[svp67]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

The Intermarium project is bursting at the seams; it is in no way possible to separate Russian hydrocarbons from German technologies and investments.

But how, but how can the "molecules of democracy" get along with the "Russian" ones? This is not order.

[avg]

Quote: svp67

But how, but how can the "molecules of democracy" get along with the "Russian" ones? This is not order.

Yes, Americans could put pressure, prohibit, etc. But, as Trump was informed, some kind of secret anti-American movement is in the way - Brownian or what?

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Anglo-Saxons have always provoked, poison peoples, and mattresses have benefited, with great oppression, how did the mattresses come out? WWII helped.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

WWII helped.

She helped, because they unleashed both WWI and WWII for this, and now they are trying to push the world into a third.

[steelmaker]

How could one even start such a project without thinking about the risks. Now everything depends on Merkel, and Russian citizens will pay for the losses. Miller is covered in chocolate like water from a duck's back. To lead in this way, one does not need intelligence, it is enough not to have conscience!

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: steel maker

How could you even start such a project without thinking about the risks.

So, in your opinion, it was not worth starting? What about economic interests? we must fight for them. Risks were calculated, difficulties were assumed, and they continue to struggle for the implementation of the project. If you retreat because of the perceived risks, then there will be no development at all. If you follow your logic, then Russia should not even start any significant international project. Do you propose to "withdraw into yourself" (like S.Korei) or will it turn into a satellite peeping into the mouth of the "owner" (like Poland)?

[Malyuta]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

. If you retreat because of the perceived risks, then there will be no development at all.

I am very sorry , but do you really think that pipe laying is development?

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Malyuta

pipe laying, is this development?

And what is this if not a modern transport infrastructure project? Just do not need about oil and other needles with squandering resources

[Polite Moose]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

And what is this if not a modern transport infrastructure project?

Which over time, with a smart policy, can make energy consumers dependent on the supplier (and not vice versa, as it is now). And I really hope that in the near future we will be able to sell bundle tickets to tenants of any house in the EU (if it still remains the EU).

[7,62x54]

Lovely scolding, only amuse

[NIKN]

Quote: 7,62x54

Lovely scolding, only amuse

Well yes...

On May 27, Merkel said at a briefing that relations with the United States are not developing as well as she would like, and there are many contradictions. At the same time, she emphasized that the security of Europe is impossible without NATO, and Washington is a key ally of Europeans.

Something like this.

[knn54]

Why overpay for what you can get cheaper?

[Break through]

I hope Merkel did not bend

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Break through

I hope Merkel did not bend

Caved in? -- No! She just apologized !!!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Break through

I hope Merkel did not bend

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

No! She just apologized !!!

If in the end it turns out that, despite the persistence of the "groom", Frau Chancellor kept herself and at the same time "gop tsots is a perevertsots, and grandma is healthy", then in a short time the descendants will erect monuments all over Vaterlandia. With her anti-Soviet stubbornness, she unties the hands of the future chancellor, who, in a good scenario, will inherit an energy-independent Germany with a multi-vector foreign policy and the prospect of multifaceted economic development. Her position is exaggerated as follows: to whom I owe (Chancellor-Pact, etc.) - I forgive everyone. Dembel is not far off. I'm old, if anything - blame everything on me.

[AlexVas44]

... disagreements between Merkel and Trump arose not only on the gas pipeline issue, but also on the financial parameters of NATO activities and relations with China.

I just want to "in the classics" - nothing personal .... But Trump, it seems to me, on the contrary - everything is personal, everything is business ... his own business.

[rotmistr60]

the conversation was "very tough".

The harshness of the conversation was probably due to the fact that Merkel did not agree with Trump out of an ingrained habit. When your country's economic well-being is at stake, you can include a little "toughness." Now it is clear why, before that, Merkel stated that sanctions against Russia over Donbass must be continued. I prepared for myself at least a little bedding before the upcoming conversation with Trump. And the latter went all-out - WHO on the side, preferences to Hong Kong in order to harm China on the side, grates with his favorite Twitter, the resumption of nuclear weapons tests ...

[HAM]

"You would still have a fight, hot" Finnish "guys!" ... @

[Atlant-1164]

did not understand from what I read .. Merkel gave in to him ?? or is she having "critical" days?

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: steel maker

How could one even start such a project without thinking about the risks. Now everything depends on Merkel, and Russian citizens will pay for the losses. Miller is covered in chocolate like water from a duck's back. To lead in this way, one does not need intelligence, it is enough not to have conscience!

In the Government of Russia are boobies, more than a steelworker. They did not provide. Then you need to send to the penguin, you, after all, see through the underground through.
Though such a benefit will be from you. What are you guessing? On the Karo maps?

[Incvizitor]

Merkel also needs to be pleased with the Phashington owners and the local kapitalyugs, turns around like a frying pan and suffers and suffers and makes the country suffer from her lackeys and stupidity, but she cannot be driven away from the feeder.

[fif21]

Quote: Incvizitor

Merkel need

Merkel is stingy and prudent, like many German frau. And to force her to buy unnecessary and expensive things, it is possible only under pain of the death penalty.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The Germans are gradually turning into spikes. They are already being commanded. Next time, rolls will be handed out in the center of Berlin.

[Junior Private]

American multinationals and Trump's head, driven by genetic greed, continue to show the world the noble and democratic methods of managing the free market. But it's' too late. Too serious guys fit into the expansion of European gasification, and the dispersal of the Swiss pipe-laying flotillas will not work here.
Very far-sightedly introduced to the business of the old fox Schroeder. He and Vasya are Vasya, and he knows all the entrances and exits in the European chicken coop.

[Junior Private]

In general, it turns out okay. Trump himself came up with a 2% topic at the NATO cash desk, and now this is considered a reinforced concrete rebuke in any dispute. I goof off with these democracies.

[Pvi1206]

European countries have also invested in this project and do not want to lose money ...

[north 2]

the policy of the Russian states, when Russia offering its goods to the Germans does not require the Germans to necessarily abandon the American goods, there is a model of decency in
politics. And the United States not only offers its goods to the Germans, but also requires the Germans to give up Russian goods, which are also much cheaper than American ones. And this is already blackmail in politics, because it is possible to make buying more expensive instead of buying cheaper only through intimidation through blackmail. But after all, for a thousand years, as an Anglo-Saxon, foreign policy was conducted through blackmail, and the United States has also been conducting such foreign policy for more than a hundred years. So now let the Germans be in the shoes of those who were blackmailed themselves, as they themselves were blackmailing others, and maybe then the Germans will realize that concessions to the blackmailer lead to the collapse of state independence. I think that the Germans have enough ambition and mind to show their independence by buying goods from Russia is cheaper than from America is much more expensive. Tavara, who from America will need more. than the one you would buy from Russia, because liquefied gas from a gas carrier requires one unit of consumption much more than gas from a gas pipeline that is similar to a unit of consumption

[fif21]

This crazy cowboy does not even realize that Gazprom is a multinational company with significant foreign capital. Or is he watching an advertisement for Russian TV? Where they pretend that Gazprom is a national treasure!

[Andobor]

Local gas distributors in Europe, primarily German ones, sell gas to Europe at many times more expensive than the Gazprom price, and Americans cannot deprive them of such a gain.

[mitrich]

They talked hard ... This is where the uprising will end. Further, Trump will pat Merkelikh on the fat ass and she will gently lie down again under another amerovskoy "boyfriend".

[NordUral]

Trump conducts his policy in the interests of the States. And why wonder? The USA never had partners, there were only dependent and fed, for the time being, allies.

[Wolf]

The problem here is that the gas issue is for Europe, and in the first place of Germany, in fact, those on average are the questions of economic survival. content competitive ability European industry. Esli will not be cheaper environmentally friendly energy European industry will begin to lose market od East dragons China, South Korea, Japan and the United States in the west. In other words, the industry of Europe will die. Merkel defending large capital Europe does not want sanctions on Ruski Gas. In addition, Ruski cheap environmentally friendly gas will travel east and there will be a wind in the back of the Chinese economy. In Europe, only one economic suicide can refuse Russian gas.

[Zomanus]

The hegemon loses its influence and slowly its allies begin to look for other alliances.
Accordingly, the hegemonic Wishlist are executed with an eye on the current situation.

[75 Sergey]

For that, she spoke out about the Crimea.

[Normal ok]

It is noted that the disagreement between Merkel and Trump arose not only on the issue of the gas pipeline, but also on the financial parameters of NATO activity and on relations with China.

There is an interesting article on Merkel's attitude towards China on Deutsche Welle.

[Ros 56]

Well, Merkel does not want to leave like a beaten dog, so she shows her teeth and does the right thing. Give these fingers a finger, they will have a snack on your ridge.

[tarakanovaleksei]

Fear of death reveals the truth.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The vassal of my vassal is not my vassal.

[Machete]

Question: who merges information about secret negotiations in the press?

[Yury Siritsky]

It seems to me that he is going too far, dictating his conditions. It's time to send the states in three letters.

[cpez-lun]

The Germans are practical people!