Military Review

The Ministry of Defense decided on a new contract for the Su-34

85

The Russian Air Force will receive another 76 Su-34 bombers. According to Izvestia, citing sources in the military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense, the contract for the construction of aircraft has already been agreed.


According to the publication, the Ministry of Defense has already agreed on the terms of the contract for the supply of Su-34M bombers. Under the terms of the agreement, the aircraft will be delivered in a modernized version; a total of 76 bombers are planned to be received by 2027.

Details of the contract for a new large batch of Su-34s have already been agreed. Although the document itself has not yet been signed, defense industry enterprises have begun to order components for its execution. Every year until 2027 it is planned to produce from 8 to 14 aircraft. The first nodes for their assembly should go to the plant in the second half of this year.

- stated at the enterprise.

Reportedly, all Su-34s under the new contract will be produced according to the modernized version as part of the Sych development program. This modernization includes updating avionics, installing high-precision weapons and a set of several suspended reconnaissance containers.

The bmpd blog writes that within the framework of the Sych development project, three removable overhead containers with intelligence equipment are being developed that significantly exceed the capabilities of the built-in equipment; they should give the aircraft a completely new ability to detect targets.

A variant of the container with the designation UKR-RT is intended for electronic reconnaissance, UKR-OE for optoelectronic, and UKR-RL for radar. They all use a single data bus to interact with the aircraft.

- writes the edition.

Recall that to date, under two contracts from 2008 and 2012, the Ministry of Defense received 32 and 92 Su-34 bombers, respectively.
85 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. parkello
    parkello 29 May 2020 18: 25 New
    35
    Well, that's great . Su-34 is a good bomber. wink
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 29 May 2020 18: 35 New
      30
      It would be necessary to order the same amount of Mig-35D. After the Su-57, this is our most sophisticated fighter. Naturally complete with AFAR Zhuk-AM.
      1. parkello
        parkello 29 May 2020 18: 39 New
        13
        I support. although pieces of 30 Mig need .and along the way. Mig in its niche will not let anyone in. and they already brought to mind AFAR. Now we have to negotiate a price. the thing is not cheap, this is the same radar with AFAR what and the glider himself ordered to live long and serve. in aerodynamics. therefore, the plane has no equal. But I do not know about avionics. but we must do it honestly and everything will be fine. a good thing is always bought. yes
        1. FRoman1984
          FRoman1984 29 May 2020 20: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: parkello
          I support. although pieces of 30 Mig need .and along the way. Mig in its niche will not let anyone in. and they already brought to mind AFAR. Now we have to negotiate a price. the thing is not cheap, this is the same radar with AFAR what and the glider himself ordered to live long and serve. in aerodynamics. therefore, the plane has no equal. But I do not know about avionics. but we must do it honestly and everything will be fine. a good thing is always bought. yes

          Where is the news that they brought the Beetle to mind? They positioned it for the Ministry of Defense as an option always. Well, no and will not be in the foreseeable future of its mass production. If everything would be so simple, then they would put the Squirrel on the Su-35, and not Irbis.
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 29 May 2020 22: 42 New
            +3
            In order to put the Squirrel on the Su-35S, appropriate R&D and subsequent contracts are needed. In real-time execution of current orders, no one will make such changes.
            1. FRoman1984
              FRoman1984 30 May 2020 03: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: Voyager
              In order to put the Squirrel on the Su-35S, appropriate R&D and subsequent contracts are needed. In real-time execution of current orders, no one will make such changes.

              The squirrel was put on the Su-35, it was run on it just in front of the T-50 in the late 2000s, early 2010s.
              And under the contracts - so after all, for our own VKS, under contracts for the Ministry of Defense.
              But she was also in single copies, manual assembly.
          2. bayard
            bayard 31 May 2020 06: 54 New
            +2
            Well, for the Su-35 “Squirrel” (which is not a fact that it’s already ready to the full extent), it’s hardly worth setting it for the time being, for a plane that is being built for the family of the airborne forces in a limited series ... But in the future, with modernization, why and no.
            But the article is still about the Su-34, the series of which was extended, and it is up to 200 production models.
            But this is for the videoconferencing.
            And what about the resurgence in some torments of naval aviation? The Su-30 was adopted as the main IFI, and rightly so. But what to do with the much needed MPA? Available Tu-22M3 only 60 \ 61 pieces. , which is extremely insufficient for the needs of the fleets. The resumption of the construction of the Tu-22 in the M3M version is unlikely to be justified, rather limited to the modernization of 30 units. to the M3M version, and God forbid that it works. After all, they are now pulling out the Tu-160M2 program, and even PAK YES are already beginning to sculpt ...
            But airplanes for MRA are needed.
            And here it would be very suited exactly Su-34, as carriers of promising PC hypersonic weapons. But for these needs, this platform would not hurt to improve it - to more fully meet its combat mission.
            And to do this is not so difficult with the help of existing "ingredients."
            So let's dream.
            We will soon have at our disposal the new Product-30 engines with exceptional traction characteristics. If you use them on a new modification of the Su-34, this will slightly increase the size of the airframe - lengthening it and increasing the wing area. This will give us both an increase in internal volumes for fuel (and therefore increase the combat radius), and it will allow us to increase the payload / combat load, and it will also allow us to safely land with a complete unexpended ammunition load (which is very important, because the Tu-22M3 has this is really bad - he can land with only one X-22 \ 32 missile). At the same time, speed characteristics are likely to increase, which also does not hurt.
            As a result, it is quite possible to get an aircraft for an MPA with a combat radius of 2000 km. at standard combat load - one air-launched Zircon missile launcher and 4-6 explosive rockets for self-defense (when flying at maximum range), or one Zircon missile and up to 4 X-35 \ X-31 + 4 - 6 missiles Explosive during combat sortie to a slightly shorter range - for a combined strike.
            For the avionics of the new version of this aircraft, you can generously use the avionics elements from the Su-57 (including the Belka radar).
            As a result, in an acceptable time frame, we can get a combat aircraft for MPA based on a commercially available model, using existing components (all within the framework of one design bureau) and at a price much lower than the expected Tu-22M3M when resuming its construction at the Kazan plant .
            At the same time, the issue of a more harmonious distribution of orders between aircraft factories will be resolved - it will allow for a good future to load the Chkalov plant and somewhat unload the Kazan plant, which already has the difficult task of constructing the Tu-160M2 series, modernizing the existing Tu-160 and Tu-22M3, and the launch of the promising PAK YES.
            The need for hypothetical aircraft of the described modification of the Su-34 for MRA can be estimated as follows:
            - for Pacific Fleet - two regiments in Primorye and Kamchatka (presumably 2 x 24 units);
            - for the Northern Fleet - one regiment (presumably 24 units);
            - for the Black Sea Fleet - one regiment (presumably 24 units);
            - for the BF - one regiment (presumably 24 units);
            and one - two regiments of the mobile reserve - for strengthening in threatened areas and deploying MRA forces on foreign navies.
            In total, the total need for MPA in such aircraft can be estimated at about 200 units.
            At the same time, one such aircraft will be at least in combat worth at least the existing version of the Tu-22M3, but it will be much cheaper, more flexible to use, cheaper and easier to operate, more convenient to manufacture and maintain.
            And all this in an acceptable time frame. It can be prepared for production just at the end of the validity period of the order just received by the Chkalovsky Plant - by 2027.

            However, if the proposed modification proves to be too complicated, then the Su-34 and in its current appearance fully complies with the requirements for an air-based Zircon carrier.
            1. pmkemcity
              pmkemcity 1 June 2020 06: 07 New
              -1
              Quote: bayard
              and somewhat unload the Kazan plant

              Yes Yes! And then with the release of "cauldrons" can not cope!
      2. codetalker
        codetalker 29 May 2020 19: 06 New
        +6
        I'm sure they will order. Nobody wants to rush. If I am not mistaken, the Su-34 made its first flight in 1990, and a large consignment (92 pieces) was ordered only in 2012. And the MiG made its first flight only in the year 16. Obviously, this aircraft is planned as a large-scale one.
        1. bayard
          bayard 29 May 2020 22: 28 New
          +5
          Quote: codetalker
          . Obviously, this aircraft is planned as a large-scale one.

          As a large-scale one it is planned only for export, its MO and VKS are turned around with their noses - the price is almost the same as that of the Su-30SM, and the possibilities are lower. To build such aircraft massively, you need to deploy a N-th number of new aviation regiments. And to them (regiments): airfields with all the infrastructure, alternate aerodromes, material and technical and social infrastructure, pilots (there aren’t enough of them on existing sides), aircraft technicians (it’s even worse with them) ... and much more that costs money , time, attention and control ...
          therefore, they prefer to go along a simpler path - to buy only heavy fighters and cover all their needs with them. They have a much larger radius, combat load and overall combat capabilities.
          Now about 120 MiG-29s remain in the troops and it is not known which planes these regiments will be re-equipped ... Previously, they were re-equipped with the Su-30SM and Su-35S.
          They decided to buy a small batch for their videoconferencing only for advertising - to show that their own army is buying them, so do you. yes
          They simply do not know where and for what tasks to attach. Heavy fighters do better with any tasks.
          1. codetalker
            codetalker 29 May 2020 22: 38 New
            -1
            120 MiG-29 left them and will be replaced by the MiG-35. Unless, of course, our military leadership has not abandoned the concept of a two-component fleet of fighter aircraft. About export / purchase for advertising - speculations of “experts”. Never a new technology starts immediately in a large series.
            1. bayard
              bayard 29 May 2020 22: 49 New
              +3
              Quote: codetalker
              About export / purchase for advertising - speculations of “experts”. Never a new technology starts immediately in a large series.

              We recall the history of the CT-90 and Su-30. They began exclusively as export ones. The same can be said about frigates 11356, and about the "Carapace" on wheels.
              I also do not mind that the MiG-35 was built at least in a quantity of 120 units ... but so far only 6 units. ordered.
              1. codetalker
                codetalker 29 May 2020 22: 56 New
                0
                Till. What will happen next - we'll see. It’s obvious that he won’t get into a big series quickly. But, I think until the age of 27, they will order 30 pieces (for themselves). But who knows what will happen ... Teleports will be invented and planes will no longer be needed :)
              2. abc_alex
                abc_alex 29 May 2020 23: 05 New
                +6
                Quote: bayard
                We recall the story ... Su-30. They began exclusively as export ones.

                Well, here you somehow went too far. The Su-30 was created for the Russian Air Force as a leader and long-range interceptor. Work began until 1988.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 29 May 2020 23: 10 New
                  +2
                  Quote: abc_alex
                  Work began until 1988.

                  Then a lot of things began, and the Su-32 in the deck version. But really, work continued and the plane went into series exclusively thanks to the Indian order. The country did not have money then, they barely supported what was left.
                  And so yes - as a team was conceived under the Union.
                  A lot of good thoughts were then ...
      3. FRoman1984
        FRoman1984 29 May 2020 20: 29 New
        +8
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        It would be necessary to order the same amount of Mig-35D. After the Su-57, this is our most sophisticated fighter. Naturally complete with AFAR Zhuk-AM.

        What niche will the MiG-35 take in the VKS? it does not fit the category of “light” fighter, like the F-16, and no better than the Su-35.
        And the Su-34, and even with upgrades, the good news will allow loading the plant and replacing the Su-24 fleet
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 29 May 2020 21: 04 New
          +7
          Quote: FRoman1984
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          It would be necessary to order the same amount of Mig-35D. After the Su-57, this is our most sophisticated fighter. Naturally complete with AFAR Zhuk-AM.

          What niche will the MiG-35 take in the VKS? it does not fit the category of “light” fighter, like the F-16, and no better than the Su-35.
          And the Su-34, and even with upgrades, the good news will allow loading the plant and replacing the Su-24 fleet


          The Mig-35D will occupy the niche of a light multi-functional fighter, such a workhorse for all occasions. It will create depth of composition. As in the USSR, the role of the light fighter was performed by Mig-29, so we will have a light fighter Mig-35, there is no alternative to this. Yes and on how many MiG-35s are heavier than the F-16V? For a ton two. Not critical.
          MiG-35 weight

          - empty weight: 11000 kg
          - normal take-off weight: 17500 kg
          - maximum take-off weight: 29700 kg


          Mig-35 will be in operation for 40 years. Mig-35 can take off from a runway only 190 meters long. Unpretentious, an hour of operation is 1,5 times cheaper than that of heavy fighters. There is an AFAR Zhuk-AM. good What we need.
          The design of the MiG-35, compared with its predecessor, has been strengthened taking into account the experience of landing on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft-carrying cruiser. This allows the aircraft, if necessary, to land with heavy weapons and a large supply of fuel. Such a constructive solution increased the airframe resource by 2,5 times - up to 6000 flight hours and the operation of the aircraft for 40 years. More than 20% of the airframe elements are made of composite materials, a number of design solutions have improved the stability and controllability of the aircraft and increased maneuverability.


          The aircraft is suitable for basing and operation in conditions of partially damaged runways, as well as near the combat contact line. A fighter can take off from a runway just 190 meters long. Reinforced chassis racks can withstand impact on protruding ribs of concrete slabs up to 10 cm high or rough landing.

          The aircraft is fully adapted for storage without hangar at an ambient temperature of -45o to + 50oС in any climatic zones and at high altitude airfields located at altitudes of up to 3500 m.

          When designing the MiG-35, it was possible to increase the internal fuel supply by 50% and also double the combat load. As a result, the armament and range of the MiG-35 approached the level of heavy fighters.

          The developer did not disclose data on the range of combat use of the MiG-35, it is only indicated that it was increased by 50% compared to its predecessor (MiG-29M / M2), the corporation’s general designer Sergey Korotkov spoke about this during the official presentation of the aircraft on January 27, 2017 in Lukhovitsy. According to the official data of MiG-RSK, the flight range of the MiG-29M fighter is 1800-2000 km, and that of the MiG-29M2 is 1600-1700 km. Therefore, even if we take the minimum range of the MiG-29M2 as 1600 km as the initial value, the MiG-35 will have a flight range of 2400 km.

          The unified head of the aircraft allows for the shortest possible time to re-equip the cockpit for the installation of an additional fuel tank, which further expands the capabilities of the aircraft (can be used as a tanker) and increases the flight range up to 3000 km. Compare, the flight range of the Su-35S is 3600 km, the Su-30SM is 3500 km.

          https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5de0cdf40372a55e1da097fa/mig35-i-mig35d-razmery-dvigatel-ves-istoriia-dalnost-poleta-prakticheskii-potolok-5de7a0585d6c4bdc0ba67587
          1. FRoman1984
            FRoman1984 29 May 2020 22: 31 New
            10
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter

            The Mig-35D will occupy the niche of a light multi-functional fighter, such a workhorse for all occasions. It will create depth of composition. As in the USSR, the role of the light fighter was performed by Mig-29, so we will have a light fighter Mig-35, there is no alternative to this. Yes and on how many MiG-35s are heavier than the F-16V? For a ton two. Not critical.
            MiG-35 weight

            - empty weight: 11000 kg
            - normal take-off weight: 17500 kg
            - maximum take-off weight: 29700 kg


            The Mig-35 will be in operation for 40 years. The Mig-35 can take off from a runway just 190 meters long. Unpretentious, an hour of operation is 1,5 times cheaper than that of heavy fighters. There is

            Empty weight is 13500, not 11000, this is a big difference. So it’s hardly possible to call it light, it’s almost mass (F-15E) (14300), which is classified as heavy. Having a Su-34, Su-30, Su-35, why do we need another similar car?
            The Ministry of Defense will not take it in any significant quantities, wait and see, of course, but this is a dead end road and its further development is pointless. Moreover, they do not have ZhUK-A in the SERIES (there are a couple of experienced ones who have been transported to exhibitions for 10 years), but there is only Zhuk-M with SCHAR.
            1. abc_alex
              abc_alex 29 May 2020 23: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: FRoman1984
              Having a Su-34, Su-30, Su-35, why do we need another similar car?

              Satisfy the Air Force with the required number of m dry cars; there is simply not enough budget. Even the USSR could not afford the Air Force from heavy fighters. MiG-29M2 is cheaper, and the nomenclature of weapons is the same.
              It, of course, is heavier than the classic MiG-29, but it also has a flight range of almost double. In addition, this is a single platform on which you can make a single IS and a double IS with advanced shock capabilities, and ship IS, and IS with an extended range. And it will be ONE AND THE SAME plane. And not the "Sukhoi Zoo" in which no plane is complimentary to others. The Statesmen, although annoying at times with their habit of renaming domestic aircraft, are often guessing. Fulcrum - fulcrum, the main aircraft of the Air Force. And Sukhoi’s machines will be what they were created for - a means of reinforcing and completing special tasks.
            2. Kolka Semenov
              Kolka Semenov 30 May 2020 06: 33 New
              0
              Although I am wary of the zoo in the Air Force, still the mass of the empty Mig-35 is exactly 11 tons and not 13,5. As I understand it, the Mig-35 is a symbiosis of the Mig-29M2 and Mig-29K, but the glider was taken from the land vehicle, otherwise it would have gone into the troops much earlier - along with the Mig-29K. And to take a car with such an overload for the Air Force is insanity, it would hardly have been allowed.
            3. Gaersul
              Gaersul 31 May 2020 08: 10 New
              0
              AFAR, at least Fazotronovsky, worked back in the early 2000s (although I heard that at that time he never stood on the 35th, they tested it on the 29th) he had a problem with the power source (there happened a very ugly story with its development), but then they ordered the development of a third-party organization and the radar came to life.
          2. VO3A
            VO3A 30 May 2020 00: 56 New
            0
            It will, it will take, it will be able ... How many built MIG-35? Three pieces, despite the fact that you need 4 flying for testing ... They weren’t even enough for testing ... And who is building them and where? The old factory was removed from production and sculpted a new one from scratch ... Do you believe in your own tales?
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 29 May 2020 21: 10 New
          +7
          200 Su-34 is already good! hi
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 30 May 2020 01: 06 New
            -2
            How good is that? This is very small ... How many Su-24Ms did you remember? You can even remember simple Su-24s ... How many Tu-22M3 were there, and now they will not find 30 for modernization ... How many Tu-95 are still alive? The TU-160 can do 5 new ones, although they promised more ... We won’t pull it any longer, the country will remain without pants .... PAK YES we will wait a long time ... One strike airplane in total .... One savior, one hope ... . And you are good? By 2027, only 2 divisions for the entire vast country, however, is not enough .... It will be .... In general, PAK YES on the basis of the Su-34 had to be done .... As if these clowns would not tear their tummy and we along with them. ... A new engine, a new plane from scratch .... And here everything is almost there ....
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 30 May 2020 01: 14 New
              +3
              70 Su-24M / M2 and more than 50 Su-24MR as of 2020
              Time goes by, planes are getting more expensive.
              F-22 Yankees 186. hi
              1. VO3A
                VO3A 30 May 2020 01: 18 New
                -3
                Why don't you think for 2000? Do not bury your head in the sand ....
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 30 May 2020 01: 21 New
                  +3
                  How much do you think the Su-34 needs? smile
                  770, how was the Su-24M built with us?
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 30 May 2020 01: 40 New
                    +4
                    And in the Su-24M2 from the Su-24M it was planned to remake just 200 pcs.
                    We do not have enough pilots and airfields for those aircraft that are in service. For many reasons.
                    For the war with the States - any number of aircraft is not enough.
                    And for borderline bullies and 200 Su-34s is enough. IMHO.
                    There is also the Su-30SM, Su-35S and, of course, we are waiting for the Su-57.
                  2. VO3A
                    VO3A 30 May 2020 10: 55 New
                    0
                    You need 300 pieces, this is the minimum quantity.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 30 May 2020 11: 07 New
                      0
                      I can’t say anything against 300.
                      It is likely that this will be so. hi
      4. The comment was deleted.
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 29 May 2020 18: 52 New
      -8
      They wanted to cover the Novosibirsk plant. Now that they will not touch?
      1. major071
        major071 29 May 2020 19: 33 New
        21
        Fake about the closure of the Novosibirsk aircraft plant has been walking the network for several years. Although last year it was officially announced that there would be no closure, the plant will continue to operate even in the context of the transition to civilian products, fake guns, especially from the territory of the fraternal country, continue to state the opposite. As they say, you need to loudly pull (forgive me for my "English"), and let the others understand the consequences.
    3. Voyager
      Voyager 29 May 2020 22: 39 New
      +2
      Oh, what a babble, beauty smile
      Greetings, Yorgo! hi
      1. parkello
        parkello 30 May 2020 00: 38 New
        +4
        good night Andrew. I, as usual, in the trash and after 12 nights looked)) I beg your pardon) recourse we have joy in the city, finally quarantine was canceled. again everyone walks until the morning. and I am not an exception, I’ve sinned as sin and fornication I am cursed) laughing
        1. major071
          major071 30 May 2020 09: 10 New
          0
          Ah, how beautifully put it, scoundrel! good Already envy! drinks
          1. parkello
            parkello 30 May 2020 09: 30 New
            +5
            and also, I can expressively, obscenities, look)) laughing
    4. Private-K
      Private-K 30 May 2020 10: 05 New
      +1
      Yes, but a hundred76 would have looked more impressive. wink
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 May 2020 18: 25 New
    -1
    The Russian Air Force will receive another 76 Su-34 bombers.
    Good quantity. Yes + 32 and 92, how much will it be .... = a lot, and it pleases. repeat
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 29 May 2020 18: 30 New
      +6
      32 + 92 + 76 = 200 Again the number 76 as in the case of the contract for serial Su-57.
      1. figwam
        figwam 29 May 2020 19: 08 New
        10
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Again, the number 76, as in the case of the contract for serial Su-57.

        Three new regiments, and the Su-24m will be completely written off.
        1. Charik
          Charik 29 May 2020 19: 38 New
          -2
          Is it exhaust from engines?
          1. figwam
            figwam 29 May 2020 20: 31 New
            +3
            Quote: Charik
            Is it exhaust from engines?

            Emergency fuel discharge.
            1. Charik
              Charik 29 May 2020 22: 28 New
              0
              UUH Su34 with bn 34
      2. Ingenegr
        Ingenegr 29 May 2020 21: 16 New
        +6
        32 + 92-2 + 76 = 198. Now the correct arithmetic.
    2. VO3A
      VO3A 29 May 2020 18: 46 New
      -9
      Very little information. Starting from the name of the aircraft and ending with the volume of improvements ... Will the weapons system, avionics be improved, outdated engines be replaced, measures have been taken to reduce the image intensifier tubes, etc.
      And two hundred aircraft until 2027 in total is ridiculous ...
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 29 May 2020 18: 57 New
        +5
        New weapons and new avionics. The glider will not be touched. And why do not the engines suit you? They are not looking for good from good.
        A prototype of the modernized Su-34 fighter-bomber generation 4 ++ will be created by 2022. This was reported by TASS with reference to two sources in the military-industrial complex on Sunday, December 22.

        Among the main changes are an improved radar station (radar), a new navigation system, as well as information display systems in the cockpit.

        https://iz.ru/957029/2019-12-22/opytnyi-obrazetc-obnovlennogo-su-34-sozdadut-k-2022-godu

        Container information. In the quote below, the VO site corrects the names of container options and writes the word "Ukrainian" instead of the original belay
        Three containers with different reconnaissance load have been developed for the Su-34. The Ukrainian-RT variant is intended for electronic reconnaissance, the Ukrainian-OE is for optoelectronic and the Ukrainian-RL is for radar. They all use a single data bus to interact with the aircraft and are therefore interchangeable.

        Earlier, Vladimir Maksimov, the director general of the Kulon research institute, stated that the Ukrainian-RL radio-electronic reconnaissance container with the fourth-generation Pika-M radar had completed state tests and had already been tested in real conditions. It will allow the aircraft to detect ground targets at a greater range at any time of the day, even through clouds.


        As military expert Dmitry Boltenkov told Izvestia, another container for the Su-34, Ukrainian-RT, was created on the basis of the M400a radio intelligence equipment. This is a smaller version of the more complex Fraction system, which is equipped with the latest Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft.

        “For container execution, it was necessary to reduce the dimensions and weight of the Fraction, but it was stated that the technical characteristics were preserved,” the specialist said.

        https://iz.ru/965177/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/oblachnyi-servis-su-34-smozhet-obnaruzhit-nevidimye-tceli
      2. codetalker
        codetalker 29 May 2020 19: 08 New
        +5
        It was planned to release 200 pieces. From the very beginning.
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 29 May 2020 19: 25 New
        +6
        Quote: VO3A
        Very little information. Starting from the name of the aircraft and ending with the volume of improvements ... Will the weapons system, avionics be improved, outdated engines be replaced, measures have been taken to reduce the image intensifier tubes, etc.
        And two hundred aircraft until 2027 in total is ridiculous ...

        For a simple layman, information is enough. You know less - sleep better and live longer. Spoiled you, curious, internet. In my time, it’s good if a muddy picture in “Aviation and Cosmonautics” or “Wings of the Motherland” is printed.
        1. VO3A
          VO3A 30 May 2020 00: 24 New
          -4
          Nowadays there was the "Foreign Military Review" and not only ... You read the wrong magazines and watch the wrong Internet ...
    3. Igor_S
      Igor_S 29 May 2020 20: 17 New
      +3
      Unfortunately, 2 cars swam in the Far East. So only 198!
  3. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 May 2020 18: 27 New
    0
    It is planned to receive 76 bombers by 2027.

    Pancake. How much do you need total? That way, while the troops are saturated, and probably modernizing several times in the course of the play, the previous cars will become obsolete.
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 29 May 2020 18: 42 New
      +5
      Su-34 seems to have planned to release about 200. Purely to replace the Su-24.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 29 May 2020 18: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: stock buildbat
        Su-34 seems to have planned to release about 200. Purely to replace the Su-24.

        So, the norm? Good.
    2. Charik
      Charik 29 May 2020 19: 41 New
      +3
      Will they become obsolete? how many years old does the Su24 fly? rather you’ll grow old
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 30 May 2020 16: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Charik
        rather you’ll grow old

        The electronic filling is also unchanged since then? It's about

        modernization includes updating avionics, installing high-precision weapons and a set of several suspended reconnaissance containers.
        .
        Who knows what gadgets will be relevant by 2027. Do not pretend that they did not understand me.
  4. Carib
    Carib 29 May 2020 18: 31 New
    14
    And the Novosibirsk plant will not die, it will continue to develop. Yes + modernization of ducklings of the previous release.
    They would have 41 more engines ...
  5. Sergei 23
    Sergei 23 29 May 2020 18: 34 New
    +6
    Good news!!!
  6. iouris
    iouris 29 May 2020 18: 46 New
    -14
    The USSR had a "national idea" and there were many bombers. They sawed a lot. They showed on TV.
  7. The comment was deleted.
  8. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 29 May 2020 18: 56 New
    +5
    Quote: iouris
    The USSR had a "national idea" and there were many bombers. They sawed a lot. They showed on TV.

    There should be enough bombers ... like everything else ... regardless of ideas and countries
    1. iouris
      iouris 30 May 2020 00: 14 New
      -5
      Explain why you need bombers in the complete absence of ideas how to apply them?
      But it doesn’t work out that they’ll saw the money first, then the bombers, then us? The cut has already begun.
  9. mitrich
    mitrich 29 May 2020 19: 00 New
    -4
    Here, even if such a quantity is large for the current needs of the aerospace forces, it is then necessary to withdraw the SU-24 to the reserve. These will be more modern.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 May 2020 19: 05 New
    +4
    200 bombers of this class? This is not enough. In terms of the number of combat aircraft, we are not competing with anyone. How much is needed according to military doctrine, so much is needed ... Airplanes are an expensive thing. And their maintenance is in good condition, too. Therefore, the principle of reasonable sufficiency must be observed ... Pilots to prepare, grooming equipment ... But the planes are good. Successful aircraft.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 29 May 2020 19: 20 New
      +4
      Pilots need to be trained. That's just the point. But in the days of Serdyukov they cut a lot of things, where they trained not only future pilots. recourse
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 29 May 2020 19: 14 New
    +1
    And such containers can not be hung under the Su30? And, interestingly, radar upgraded?
    1. sivuch
      sivuch 29 May 2020 19: 26 New
      +2
      It is impossible. They are heavy. And they are eating electricity, i.e. need a more powerful generator.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 29 May 2020 22: 15 New
        +1
        This is a question that seems to be solved.
        1. sivuch
          sivuch 30 May 2020 11: 38 New
          +1
          Very kind. To add a lighter (judging by the diameter) Brahmos to the Indians it took about 15 years. And no one stutters for a long time to suspend all under the MKI. This is not to mention the problems with the flow around the container between the airspace. And the generator can generate additional problems. How many times it happened that attempts to get by with little blood resulted in a complete alteration of the aircraft.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 30 May 2020 15: 52 New
            0
            Just about to equip. All of them ended successfully.
            1. sivuch
              sivuch 30 May 2020 16: 31 New
              +1
              Are you talking about Bramos? So I remind you that they will not be suspended under all cars, as originally intended, but only under 40 specially modified ones. While Brahmos is lighter.
      2. silver_roman
        silver_roman 29 May 2020 23: 25 New
        0
        it seems like new engines are needed to generate more energy. I’m not sure for sure, but there is a certain dependence of the amount of generated energy on the characteristics of the engine.
        Learn more about the modernization of the su-34. Containers alone will not be enough, although who knows.
        But what about the PFAR? It is generally possible to install AFAR and is there any need at all?
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 30 May 2020 08: 58 New
          +1
          To equip the updated bomber as part of the Sych development work, three replaceable hanging containers with reconnaissance equipment are being developed. They significantly exceed the capabilities of embedded equipment and should give the aircraft a qualitatively new ability to detect targets.

          A variant of the container with the designation Ukrainian-RT is intended for electronic reconnaissance, Ukrainian-OE for optoelectronic, and Ukrainian-RL for radar. They all use a single data bus to interact with the aircraft.

          Suspended equipment will give the Su-34 the ability to pinpoint the work of radars and radio stations over hundreds of kilometers, as well as determine their coordinates. With a Ukrainian-RL container, a bomber will be able to "see" at any time of the day, even through dense clouds.
  12. Break through
    Break through 29 May 2020 19: 15 New
    +3
    Good contract
  13. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 29 May 2020 19: 46 New
    -1
    Good news! But what about the Law?
    Federal Law of 24.04.2020 N 124-ФЗ "On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation on the Issues of Ensuring Sustainable Development of the Economy in the Conditions of the Worsening of the Situation Due to the Spread of the New Coronavirus ...
    Article 1
    To introduce into the Federal Law of July 18, 2011 N 223-ФЗ “On Procurement of Goods, Work, Services by Certain Types of Legal Entities” (Collection of Legislation of the Russian Federation, 2011, N 30, Art. 4571; 2012, N 53, Art. 7649; 2013, No. 52, Article 6961; 2015, No. 27, Article 3947; 2016, No. 15, Article 2066; 2018, No. 1, Article 65, 89; 2019, No. 31, Article 4422) the following changes:
    1) part 1 of article 3.5 after the words "constitute a state secret," add with words "or if such a purchase is carried out within the framework of the state defense order in order to ensure the defense and security of the Russian Federation regarding orders for the creation, modernization, supply, repair, maintenance and disposal of weapons, military and special equipment, for the development, production and supply of space equipment and space infrastructure facilities, ";
    2) the first paragraph of part 15 of article 4 after the words “constituting a state secret” shall be supplemented with words “information on the procurement carried out as part of the fulfillment of the state defense order in order to ensure the defense and security of the Russian Federation with regard to orders for the creation, modernization, delivery, repair, service and disposal of weapons, military and special equipment for the development, production and supply of space technology and space infrastructure facilities, "
  14. zwlad
    zwlad 29 May 2020 19: 46 New
    +3
    Total will be about two hundred. Well, not bad.
  15. V.I.P.
    V.I.P. 29 May 2020 19: 54 New
    0
    Only we have such, highlighted as a separate class-. And everywhere I hung containers from any fighter and here’s the same bomber for you. Maintenance, logistics, operation is simpler and cheaper ..... There is armor on it. But if long-range ammunition, then it is not particularly needed.
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 May 2020 20: 35 New
    +7
    I’m wondering who is minus those who are positive about the development of our technology? What is the point of these minuses? Or just wooden heads like Pinocchio?
  17. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 29 May 2020 21: 36 New
    0
    and previously produced will be upgraded to this level?
  18. storm
    storm 29 May 2020 23: 30 New
    +3
    In parallel, up to 25-27g you need to buy another hundred Su-35s bringing up to 200 units.
    Procurement of the Su-57 can be delayed until 25-27g until it is brought to mind and put into series the engine "product 30" and then transfer the assembly line of the Su-35 to Irkut, and the Komsomol plant should fully focus on the production of Su-57 20- 24 units per year.
  19. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 May 2020 00: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: iouris
    Explain why you need bombers in the complete absence of ideas how to apply them?
    But it doesn’t work out that they’ll saw the money first, then the bombers, then us? The cut has already begun.

    I already heard it somewhere .... the question is - why do we need an army, we are friends of the USA ... on a train from "stupid hens" I heard it ...
    Bomber - a military aircraft designed to destroy ground, underground, surface, underwater objects using bomb and / or missile weapons. This is absolutely for impassable with brilliant questions why? ..... Specific criminal cases for cutting money on the last order of SU-34 can be heard. Saw you - I will not regret ..... By the way - and what kind of interest is this? also want to bite from the cake GOZov?
  20. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 May 2020 00: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: mitrich
    Here, even if such a quantity is large for the current needs of the aerospace forces, it is then necessary to withdraw the SU-24 to the reserve. These will be more modern.

    I propose podshamanit and sell 24 ???
  21. The comment was deleted.
  22. Old26
    Old26 30 May 2020 01: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: VO3A
    Nowadays there was the "Foreign Military Review" and not only ... You read the wrong magazines and watch the wrong Internet ...

    So what? In ZVO there were publications on domestic aviation? Even the Warsaw Pact countries did not appear until the time of its collapse.
    And the comrade is right. Muddy pictures in AK and KR. Sometimes appeared in the German Democratic and Polish editions. And so only Western sources, such as "Jane" and the like.
    1. +5
      +5 30 May 2020 09: 14 New
      -1
      ZVO was the mouthpiece of Western propaganda in fact .... In the West, they always praised and adorned their technical specifications and they secretly and downplayed them .... Therefore, the average man and even the SA officer, reading this glamor and comparing it with the surrounding reality, made sure the superiority of the West ... and compared with the number of sausage varieties and its presence in the store, it generally finished off ...
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 30 May 2020 09: 48 New
    0
    This is of course very cool news! You should have immediately expected information about the expansion of flight schools, increased funding for military education
  24. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 31 May 2020 12: 13 New
    0
    Airplanes, it’s good, but it’s bad that they forgot about people like me, I was called twice by a dropper, we came twice with my wife and both times refused, there are no necessary medicines, and we drove more than 2 rubles, I came to the clinic at the place of residence and there fell right in the doctor’s office, called an ambulance, drove it, 1000 hours later to the regional clinic, examined there for a long time and finally ordered to take a taxi and return home, it cost us 2 rubles, that's all the help
  25. Old26
    Old26 31 May 2020 14: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: 5-9
    ZVO was the mouthpiece of Western propaganda in fact ....

    The publication of the Ministry of Defense of the Soviet Union - and the mouthpiece of Western propaganda? Are you serious? Or maybe an official publication that talks about real weapons, rather than the propaganda crackle of GlavPUR?

    Quote: 5-9
    In the West, they always praised and adorned the performance characteristics of their vivts, but they kept it secret and downplayed ....

    And who is to blame for the fact that everyone and everyone was secret. And sometimes all this secrecy and censorship came to insanity. And you can downplay only what you publish. Have you seen a lot of officially published materials on our technology? Not directories published by enthusiasts, but real MO directories. Yes, without a neck ...

    Quote: 5-9
    Therefore, the average man and even an officer in the SA, reading this glamor and comparing it with the surrounding reality, became convinced of the superiority of the West ...

    You do not need all to fit in one comb. If a person is zombified by propaganda (no matter whose), he can be hung any noodles on his ears and in any quantity. Adequate - compared from several sources ...

    Quote: 5-9
    and in comparison with the number of sausage varieties and its presence in the store, it generally finished off ..

    Well, how about without a sausage. At a certain point in time (70s) I was quite satisfied with the number of sausage varieties in the store. Then - then it became clear that this is an artificially created situation. But even in the most unfavorable years, it was always possible to buy in co-trade (even a couple of times more expensive).