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And again, our business is the pipe?

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And again, our business is the pipe?

Today scheduled - war with Germany



During the reign of Republican President Donald Trump, it seems that many understood that this overripe cowboy is best, as a yard boy, to take "weakly." Most recently, OPEC worked with a full range of advantages, and now continues to work on the second Nord Stream.

And Europe, in fact, should be especially grateful to Washington for the fact that everything that is happening with Russian gas is happening right now when the pandemic has brought down prices and the heating season is over. Yes, the agenda includes coronavirus, quarantine and self-isolation, more precisely, a smooth exit from it, as everyone now understands that it is both smooth and planned. But Europeans still do not want to remain without gas.

Ukraine has not just so quickly joined Hungary, where the gas problem does not exist at all. There, Prime Minister Orban, whom no one else calls the Kremlin’s agent and dictator, long ago received from Russia and Gazprom something like a gold card, which he uses.

At the same time, I tried to jump out of the snuffbox on the European gas scene to small Qatar, but it has very big difficulties with delivery to the old continent. Roughly the same as the U.S. with alternative LNG, under which there is simply a catastrophic lack of port terminals, which are much longer and more expensive to build than Nord Stream 2.

Germany, not forgetting at all about its role as EU leader, got into a difficult confrontation with the United States. Europe, sorry for the repetition, should not expect any large-scale deliveries of LNG from them for a long time. The authorities of the federal republic, by all indications, are determined to defend their almost exclusive right to Nord Stream 2 to the last.

American politicians responded with a powerful pressure on Berlin. The tone among them is set by the notorious lobbyist Ted Cruz, a Texas senator who recently vied with Trump for the right to be elected as President of the Republican Party. Sanctions from across the ocean are threatened simply regularly, and they clearly had a hand in ensuring that the Federal Grid Agency of Germany rejects the application for exempting the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from the EU Gas Directive.

Recall that the decision of the network agency was a complete surprise to the federal government, which openly supported Nord Stream 2.

Berlin acknowledged that they did not know the details of the construction, feared delays, but in response to pressure from Washington noted that they fundamentally reject the extraterritorial sanctions of the United States, but are not going to bill Washington for slowing down the construction process.

With Danish greetings and Polish dziękuję


As soon as the Russian pipelayer Akademik Chersky finally reached the German port of Mukran and began preparing technological facilities for work on Nord Stream 2, Danish and Polish tracks surfaced. Also sponsored by Washington.

About Danish obstacles to construction, which we have already managed to overcome, we wrote on the pages of Military Review: “Danish gas games. Nord Stream 2 is queued up. But Polish gas problems worsened recently when Gazprom stopped the transit of blue fuel through this country. Poland’s response, hardly adequate, was to fan the hype around the alternative Baltic Pipe project.


With unprecedented support from Washington, Polish politicians from among the Russophobia went to extremes. Starting with the formation of a block of dissatisfied countries with the participation of the Baltic countries, Ukraine, led, of course, with Poland, we agreed to the point that Nord Stream 2 could cause a war when Russia launches an attack on Ukraine.

It is good that the coronavirus helped a little to forget about this eerie maxim of Prime Minister Mateusz Moravecki. However, statements that Nord Stream 2 is nothing more than a “killer of Ukraine” can also be heard during self-isolation and quarantine, and not only from Polish lips. One of the experts very correctly called Baltic Pipe the same Polish song about the main thing: how to harm Russia.

Today, both Poles and Danes suddenly remembered that hundreds or even thousands of mines have been lying on the bottom of the Baltic Sea since the Second World War. What they say makes the laying of the remaining pipes not only difficult but impossible. Forgetting that Russia literally just gained invaluable experience in cleaning the seabed during the construction of the Kerch bridge.

Meanwhile, there can be no alternative - neither in terms of capacity, absolutely incomparable, nor in routes - the Polish pipe “Nord Stream 2”. Moreover, due to the fact that in any case Nord Stream 2 will be laid earlier than Baltic Pipe, the laying of a gas pipeline to Norway, more precisely, from Norway, will have to be coordinated with Gazprom and its project partners in one way or another.

Monopolists are not obliged. Nothing


General business easily makes allies even the most implacable enemies. The government of the federal republic regularly reminds all opponents of the project that in it the share of the Russian gas concern is by no means a monopoly. Although it is Gazprom that currently provides 100% supply of blue fuel into the pipe. However, who said that this alignment is forever?

In the summer of 2019, representatives of the Russian company Novatek, which has been struggling with Gazprom’s unlimited export priority for many years, spoke at one of the gas conferences on this occasion. They immediately made two original proposals in case Nord Stream 2 would be contrary to European antitrust laws.

The first is to allow Novatek to fill the pipe as well (but how could it be otherwise - Auth.), And the second is to build a terminal at the entrance to the large pipe to receive LNG. In response to a question, where in that case to put excess Gazprom gas, it was said: to scatter across Russia and the Baltic states. Moreover, there is still no excess of blue fuel there.

It is clear that the message made at one of the local sessions was not included in the conference materials. But the sediment does not seem to have disappeared. Nevertheless, it will be appropriate to recall here that the Nord Stream 2 project has not only a German operator - a company with the AG prefix to its main name, but also several partners at once.

Not Russian, mind you. These are the German companies Wintershall and Uniper, the Austrian OMV, the French Engie and the Anglo-Dutch oil and gas giant Shell. None of the consortium members at any stage of its implementation did not hide their readiness for closer cooperation with the Russian gas giant.

And more than once it came to realizing the long-standing idea of ​​the mutual entry of these companies into each other's capital. Characteristically, the main obstacle to this has always been Russian law, which continues to guard Gazprom’s natural monopoly.

Persistent marketers on this occasion do not get tired of repeating that in Russia Gazprom’s monopoly is natural. Do not you think that just this means that the problem of the necessary demonopolization of the project can be solved by purely market methods.

The reader has the right to ask: what? At the moment, it is recommended that the operator of the gas pipeline, mentioned above, of the German company Nord Stream 2 AG, reserve at least 50% of the gas trunk capacity for alternative suppliers. Alternative suppliers will either have to be looked for or somehow allocated, which again contradicts Russian law.

But even the most stringent law is not a dogma, if you really need it, you need to change it. Nevertheless, for some time Gazprom will have to adopt the European rules of the game and supply only 2 billion cubic meters of blue fuel per year through the Nord Stream 55 pipes instead of the project 27,5 billion.

It seems that in the conditions of global decline and demand and prices for hydrocarbon raw materials, such a prospect is far from the worst. Moreover, pipes still need to be laid. But on this occasion there are quite good news.

"Academician Chersky" received reinforcements


The other day it became known that two Russian ships had already entered German territorial waters, in close proximity to the unfinished section of Nord Stream 2. To the Akademik Chersky pipe-laying machine, who had made more than half of the round-the-world trip, when Gazprom even had to abandon the idea of ​​conducting ship through the Suez Canal and the Strait of Gibraltar, joined the barge "Fortune".


This pipe-laying barge belongs to the Russian company MRTS - Mezhregiontruboprovodstroy, which worked under water even in the Arctic. If the Akademik Chersky and Fortuna ships can start working without delay, it is possible to complete the construction of Nord Stream 2 in the fall of 2020.

Apparently, in the near future it is necessary to wait for some progress in the situation with the European Gas Directive, as well as new surprises from the United States and its allies. Indeed, the launch of Nord Stream 2, even at half capacity with falling demand, can save Gazprom from having to bargain for gas transit through Ukraine

Both ships will be re-equipped in order to be able to work with pipes of the desired diameter. Gazprom and its partners still have a huge time advantage, compared to the same Americans, due to the fact that all the pipes necessary for the completion of Nord Stream 2 are already located at the terminals of the port of Mukran.

* * *

The Nord Stream 2 trunk includes two pipelines from Russia through the Baltic Sea to Germany. Its total capacity should be 55 billion cubic meters of gas per year. At the moment, more than 2300 km of pipes from about 2460 km, that is, 94 percent of its total length, have been laid under the project.

The application required to withdraw the project from the EU Gas Directive was submitted by the participants to the Federal Network Agency long before the completion of the pipe laying. However, its consideration was repeatedly postponed. The regulator is currently not satisfied with the Russian monopoly on gas supplies, which, however, should not be discussed taking into account the participation in the project of several international commodity companies at once.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 30 May 2020 05: 12 New
    +1
    In general, it’s too early to argue 100% or 50%. From the beginning there is a pipe, and gas .... maybe we will pump clean Taimyr air to Europe, let them breathe, we are not greedy. repeat
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 30 May 2020 05: 27 New
      20
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      From the beginning the pipe, and the gas ...

      So it is a pipe for the sake of a budget pipe, and the gas is not ours, there is still air, but in these situations, apparently, not for long.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 30 May 2020 05: 43 New
        15
        Yesterday I read that the managers of Gazprom, at the Chayandinskoye field, made losses of 300 billion, while drilling wells and the Power of Siberia is now nothing to fill
        https://lenta.ru/news/2020/05/28/lie_lie/?utm_source=lentavk&utm_medium=social
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 May 2020 09: 00 New
          10
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Yesterday I read that the managers of Gazprom, at the Chayandinskoye field, made losses of 300 billion, while drilling wells and the Power of Siberia is now nothing to fill

          I also saw this article and how much I am sure that this is exactly how it is .. mess, postscripts, kickbacks - this is Russia of today's managers.
          1. major147
            major147 30 May 2020 14: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: Svarog
            postscripts, kickbacks - this is Russia of today's managers.

            I wonder who they learned this from !? "That never happened, and again!" (from)
        2. alone
          alone 30 May 2020 10: 44 New
          19
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Yesterday I read that the managers of Gazprom, at the Chayandinskoye field, made losses of 300 billion, while drilling wells and the Power of Siberia is now nothing to fill

          After this, a completely logical question arises: What if the same thing has been done in Taimyr?
          P.S. I also read the article. Horror..Everywhere the same surnames..Daddy and his offspring were nicely welded up .. Especially interesting was the scam with Gazpromburenie. They bought it from Gazprom for 4 billion, and in 2019 they are already discussing returning it back to Gazprom for 40-50 billion ... beautifully rigged hi
        3. Civil
          Civil 30 May 2020 12: 29 New
          +6
          So to be dependent on the decaying West.
        4. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 May 2020 15: 08 New
          -3
          This is not a loss - but the production costs, the company and the state will incur losses when the product itself sells gas at a cost lower than the cost of its extraction transportation and so on. And the fact that this article is written specifically about exploration and drilling of wells and this article does not say that the Siberian Power has nothing to fill with there is written about a possible but not exact decrease in the volume of the explored field - as exploration and drilling are ongoing.
        5. businessv
          businessv 31 May 2020 11: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Gazprom managers at the Chayandinskoye field incurred losses of 300 billion when drilling wells
          Never surprised! How to steal, saw (I’m sure it was done) and sell these mini-miners trained perfectly, but they would still have to be taught how to work, but this is from the realm of fantasy!
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 30 May 2020 08: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Stroporez
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        From the beginning the pipe, and the gas ...

        So it is a pipe for the sake of a budget pipe, and the gas is not ours, there is still air, but in these situations, apparently, not for long.

        Remembering Marquez "Autumn of the Patriarch": "sold the sea."
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 30 May 2020 05: 31 New
      30
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      maybe we will pump clean Taimyr air to Europe, let them breathe, we are not greedy.

      And maybe it should be possible for local "bigwigs" and "chefs" to breathe clean Taimyr (maybe Magadan or some kind of Kolyma) air in conditions of self-isolation, self-sufficiency, fostering love for people, animals and physical labor, which gives the right to receive food and clothes? wassat
      1. alone
        alone 30 May 2020 10: 47 New
        12
        Quote: ROSS 42
        to breathe clean Taimyr (maybe Magadan or some kind of Kolyma) air in conditions of self-isolation, self-sufficiency, fostering love for people, animals and physical labor, which gives the right to receive food and clothing?

        With an obligatory 12 hour working regime at the logging
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 May 2020 14: 13 New
          -5
          Sawmill now engaged in modern technology.
          1. alone
            alone 30 May 2020 15: 01 New
            +9
            Quote: Vadim237
            Sawmill now engaged in modern technology.

            her .. For these, no technique ... Kylo in hand and 25 cubic meters per day for the balance ... Let them get used
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 30 May 2020 20: 03 New
              +6
              Quote: lonely
              For these, no technique ..

              Saw Friendship-2 is also a technique.
              1. alone
                alone 30 May 2020 20: 04 New
                +1
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Saw Friendship-2 is also a technique.

                Well, if you insist, then you have to increase the norm by 250 wink
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 30 May 2020 20: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: lonely
                  will have to increase the norm by 250

                  Do not pull.
                  1. alone
                    alone 30 May 2020 20: 09 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Do not pull.

                    Well, yes .. I also think so ... to work is not to manage
                  2. Overlock
                    Overlock 30 May 2020 21: 38 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Do not pull.

                    want to eat, pull. Belomorkanal built and these will build something
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 30 May 2020 21: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            Sawmill now engaged in modern technology.

            are robots controlling? For these figures there is always a place with a chainsaw
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 30 May 2020 07: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      From the beginning of the pipe

      First, the Russian pipe, and only then the Polish Baltic pipe.

      interestingly, the Russian pipe, according to the Poles, cannot be laid because of the mines, but their pipe, which goes through the SAME waters and "mines" of the WWII, is possible lol
      1. knn54
        knn54 30 May 2020 07: 24 New
        +8
        Norway is not a member of the EU (it does not even seek), so the "Polish" pipeline will also fall under the Gas Directive.
    4. really
      really 30 May 2020 07: 41 New
      +2
      It doesn’t work, the pumps run on gas.
    5. ALARI
      ALARI 1 June 2020 09: 41 New
      +1
      And we, can we sell something besides resources?
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 30 May 2020 05: 14 New
    24
    So we wouldn’t have gas, what would we do? .. How did you sell wheat and flax over a hill with tsar?
    1. Paul Siebert
      Paul Siebert 30 May 2020 05: 48 New
      15
      How did you sell wheat and flax over the hill with tsar?

      We are already selling wheat.
      At least that's what they say to us.
      Just as soon as I do not go to the cottage - collective farm fields are empty along the sidelines. But even five years ago they were cultivated ...
      What are we selling abroad?
      Kremlin stocks of good intentions? .. wink
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 30 May 2020 09: 00 New
        +8
        We sell real wheat.

        Only from large agricultural holdings. As under the kings, and now export is provided by large farms.
      2. major147
        major147 30 May 2020 15: 06 New
        +4
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        We are already selling wheat.
        At least that's what they say to us.

        "The European media are unhappy that the world's largest wheat exporter has stopped the global export of any grain. Now the supply of sunflower oil, which is much healthier than palm oil, is under threat. Judging by the Belgian edition of EUObserver, Russia should for some reason not only be responsible for food security Europe, but also to do everything to ensure that the EU receives the best goods. "
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 May 2020 14: 16 New
      -4
      We traded everything else that we trade now - but without gas.
  3. Crowe
    Crowe 30 May 2020 05: 18 New
    28
    Our business is the pipe. In the literal and figurative sense of the word. That is, the life of the country, as before, will mainly depend on the pipe - gas, oil. Alas.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 30 May 2020 05: 24 New
      20
      Quote: Crowe
      Alas.

      I share your empathy. Moreover, it becomes unclear where such confidence in their own infallibility and jurisdiction comes from:
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 30 May 2020 05: 31 New
      16
      Quote: Crowe
      Our business is the pipe. In the literal and figurative sense of the word.

      If the inhabitants continue to remain silent, then figurative meaning is provided.
      Quote: Crowe
      That is, the life of the country, as before, will mainly depend on the pipe - gas, oil. Alas.

      But here it’s not quite so, if hydrocarbon prices do not rise, and this is most likely, then the people will become not the second, but the first oil.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 May 2020 14: 19 New
        +1
        They will grow by any means - yesterday the first sign of this process flew by in the form of discussions about the oil production crisis.
  4. Break through
    Break through 30 May 2020 05: 27 New
    -34
    SP 2 will finish there is no doubt. And 100% workload is pushed through. So you don’t have to worry about this project. Now we need to develop and build the Power of Siberia 2!
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 30 May 2020 05: 40 New
      35
      It is necessary to build factories, to develop industry, and not to build yet another pipe, through which raw materials are driven abroad for a penny.
      1. Break through
        Break through 30 May 2020 06: 26 New
        -33
        Building don't worry
        1. Mudavius
          Mudavius 30 May 2020 08: 41 New
          -14
          Quote: Break through
          Building don't worry

          We are building and re-equipping the army for gas revenues ..
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 30 May 2020 10: 28 New
          16
          Quote: Break through
          Building don't worry

          how many destroyed and how many built?
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 1 June 2020 10: 24 New
            -3
            Quote: Silvestr
            how many destroyed and how many built?

            So still we can’t wait for you from the list of what was destroyed. And that they built a huge list and more than once said that they had built.
      2. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 30 May 2020 06: 36 New
        -10
        Amur gas processing plant is not your plant in your opinion? It’s interesting how it would be built if it weren’t for the pipe (the power of Siberia) which you do not need to build. (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_gas_processing_plant)
        1. Break through
          Break through 30 May 2020 07: 21 New
          -22
          It is useless to explain to them. The sect "everything is gone" has long seized the site.
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 30 May 2020 07: 27 New
            -20
            There is such a thing. Here we see, here we do not see, here we wrap the fish ...
          2. Mudavius
            Mudavius 30 May 2020 08: 43 New
            -21
            Quote: Break through
            It is useless to explain to them. The sect "everything is gone" has long seized the site.

            It began in 2015 (cons were banned, flags were canceled, etc.) ..
            Beginners are kicked right away to know their place ..))))
            1. CommanderDIVA
              CommanderDIVA 30 May 2020 08: 59 New
              -14
              Hazing, whatever one may say
              1. Mudavius
                Mudavius 30 May 2020 09: 03 New
                -17
                Quote: CommanderDIVA
                Hazing, whatever one may say

                If hazing, then it would be clear .. Minus the minor, which there are a huge number of divorced and scribble complaints .. Well, the top staff is already finishing off with all its power .. The lobby of Israel is very strong here!
                1. Break through
                  Break through 30 May 2020 09: 58 New
                  -16
                  Another lobby of Turkey and the USA. In the topic of space in support of Roscosmos zaminusut. If they mask for the mask. Also about Libya if they hack for Haftar, if for Turks they will. It feels like the Russians about two times and miscalculated on the site)
                  1. Mudavius
                    Mudavius 30 May 2020 10: 15 New
                    -16
                    Quote: Break through
                    It feels like the Russians about two times and miscalculated on the site)

                    You are very quick-witted .. hi No wonder the flags were canceled ..
                  2. Kisa
                    Kisa 30 May 2020 19: 57 New
                    14
                    my god you are what is Israel. you list what plants in ruins in Vlad Nakhodka - Dalzavod PSRZ NSRZ .... each worked for 20 thousand. about dead empty ports you want in the Far East. about the fishing fleet .... a third of the population fled ... with the last effort I restrain myself from censorship writing they already slapped a ban for it .... under the new government they only brought the pipe to Kozmino and pour the raw stuff into the sub-flagged tanker and the Star still in Big Stone still New Vasyuki in the open field
          3. Altona
            Altona 30 May 2020 10: 20 New
            21
            Quote: Break through
            The sect "everything is gone" has long seized the site.

            ------------------
            The sect "we trade the Motherland, albeit at a loss" is still tearing the accordion for the fascist regime. Vitaly, do you not notice why you are drowning? Are you a fan of the Rothschild-Rockefellers and their sixes in Russia?
            1. The comment was deleted.
            2. Break through
              Break through 30 May 2020 10: 59 New
              -15
              I am for my country. You are against. That is the whole truth.
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 30 May 2020 14: 25 New
              -18
              With what product and what losses - give an example. You can not pulsate "We are trading the Motherland, even at a loss", you have already broken your accordion of icteric lies long ago.
            4. CSKA
              CSKA 1 June 2020 15: 01 New
              -2
              Quote: Altona
              Are you a fan of the Rothschilds-Rockefellers and their sixes in Russia?

              I never get tired of asking people like you who write this nonsense. The Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and the whole West have such an insidious plan to make Russia the 6th economy of the world, the 6th on gold and foreign exchange reserves with minimal external debt, rearm its army, force it to destroy terrorists in the Caucasus and ISIS in the SAR, force it in 2008 to break up Georgia’s vassal, force it to annex Crimea?
          4. CSKA
            CSKA 1 June 2020 10: 28 New
            -2
            Quote: Break through
            It is useless to explain to them. The sect "everything is gone" has long seized the site.

            And all the same, the list of destroyed enterprises will not be shown. But they constantly yell about it. And as you begin to list the factories that they built, it is whining right away that they are all not big. Of course, two Rusal aluminum smelters, a Sibur petrochemical plant in Tobolsk, a shipyard in the Primorsky Territory are just the same as a toy factory.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 30 May 2020 10: 32 New
        23
        Quote: Crowe
        We need to build factories, develop industry, and not build another pipe,

        pipe - easier and more profitable: thrown and sit on the beach, count the money. A factory is a difficult thing! We need skilled workers, modern technology, markets. With this I strained in power. So the pipe is easier. Once thought and sit on the margin. They really forget to think before throwing a pipe. So it’s not sadness - the salary of super managers is stable, it does not depend on the final result
        1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Deniska999
      Deniska999 30 May 2020 07: 42 New
      20
      The power of Siberia 2? In light of the recent reports of the Accounts Chamber, which revealed an overestimation of gas and oil reserves, as well as reports that the Chayandinskoye field might not be enough to fill the pipe, the prospects look very, very vague.
      1. Break through
        Break through 30 May 2020 08: 34 New
        -21
        Will we all die again? I have been hearing this bike from you since 2014.
        1. Mudavius
          Mudavius 30 May 2020 10: 17 New
          -21
          Quote: Break through
          Will we all die again? I have been hearing this bike from you since 2014.

          laughing good To scare us with China, they have it in bold text in the training manual indicated .. lol
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 30 May 2020 10: 38 New
            18
            Quote: Mudavius
            To scare us with China, they have it in bold text in the training manual indicated ..

            Are you scared? laughing They just ask you, "where is the money, Zin?" And you, instead of answering about manuals laughing
            1. Mudavius
              Mudavius 30 May 2020 11: 00 New
              -20
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Mudavius
              To scare us with China, they have it in bold text in the training manual indicated ..

              Are you scared? laughing They just ask you, "where is the money, Zin?" And you, instead of answering about manuals laughing

              Money is invested in weapons and the neolibian is terribly infuriating and yelling here "down with it, etc.) It is better to give out to hungry pensioners and build good roads to Moscow for tanks ..))))
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 30 May 2020 15: 06 New
                11
                Quote: Mudavius
                and you neolib it terribly enrages and yells here "down with, etc.)

                "neolib" - what is this? I heard Putin as a liberal, Medveved too. And what kind of fruit is this? laughing
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 30 May 2020 12: 22 New
              -14
              Quote: Silvestr
              They just ask you, "where is the money, Zin?"

              And we feed and equip you and the whole Crimea. And you still have the audacity to ask where the money is, if only more than 227 billion rubles have been spent on the bridge, to say nothing of Tavrida, the airport, etc. The rest of Russia hunches on people like you, and you just whine that you get little. Go to work for the good of the whole country to begin with, and pay all taxes, as expected, "Crimean". And change the training manual yourself - you smell a lot about your difficult life, although for some reason you are not eager to go to the "north" for a long ruble.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 30 May 2020 15: 08 New
                15
                Quote: ccsr
                And we feed you and equip the whole Crimea. And you still have the audacity to ask where the money is

                I have, since I honestly pay all TAXES. And if you are not interested where your money goes, then this is your problem. request
                Quote: ccsr
                Here on people like you the rest of Russia and hunchback

                the hump did not break from work? I have 37 years of experience. How much, hunchback? laughing
                Quote: ccsr
                for some reason you are not torn to the "north" for a long ruble.

                see greed in your blood, you measure it by yourself! Russian proverb: "where he was born, there he came in handy"
                How with the native language?
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 30 May 2020 17: 53 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  I have 37 years of experience. How much, humpbacked?

                  Fifty - satisfied?
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  see greed in your blood, measure by yourself!

                  We work in the blood, and not whine - this is what we differ from the former citizens of Ukraine.
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  How with the native language?

                  It's normal - I never changed him for the sake of Svidomo, as some Russians did in Ukraine, recording myself as Ukrainians.
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 31 May 2020 13: 14 New
                    +4
                    Quote: ccsr
                    I never changed him to please Svidomo, as some Russians did in Ukraine, recording myself as Ukrainians.

                    that's for sure! You from the tanks in the 93rd shot your conscience and raised thugs to the throne. We can’t keep up with this. But we, unlike you, the shifters, did not over-swear, but remained Soviet people.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    We work in the blood, and not whine - this is what we differ from the former citizens of Ukraine.

                    "White bone" - well, why did they come to Crimea then? Reeducate? You are the same Banderaite as Korchinsky. You do not need people, but territories. That is why people like you have profited both Ukraine and Belarus, and are profiting from Russia. Stepping on a rake is your fun
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 31 May 2020 14: 18 New
                      -4
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      You from the tanks in the 93rd shot your conscience and raised thugs to the throne.

                      Don't whistle, smart guy - the army just did not take an active part in that bickering of the "democrats", it was not for nothing that Grachev asked Yeltsin for a written order.

                      Quote: Silvestr
                      But we, unlike you, the shifters, did not over-swear, but remained Soviet people.

                      You’re lying about verbiage - the entire Ukrainian army has sworn allegiance to the new government, but this was not in the Russian army.
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      "white bone" - well, why did they come to Crimea then?

                      It was Crimeans who asked to be part of Russia - you are probably not one of them.
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      You are the same Bandera as Korchinsky. You do not need people, but territories.

                      We certainly don’t need corrupt people, especially those who are whining that they haven’t created paradise in Crimea at the expense of the rest of Russia.
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      That is why people like you, profuca and Ukraine, and Belarus, profucuet and Russia.

                      Do not bend - Svidomo and I are not on the way, so it's good that we got rid of these "brothers". And we will save Russia without different "brothers" - I am sure of that.
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 30 May 2020 14: 27 New
              -14
              And what are you today without pictures - have you changed the training manual?
          2. Break through
            Break through 30 May 2020 11: 02 New
            -15
            There are 2% of them in the country. But they seem to vote a lot.
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      2. Brturin
        Brturin 30 May 2020 13: 32 New
        10
        Quote: Deniska999
        about the Chayandinskoye field may not be enough to fill the pipe

        Yushkov is surprised that such fields as the Chayandinskoye and Kovykta, which were discovered back in the 70-80s in Soviet times, were empty. “Yes, there are often gouges in the country. But for decades to explore Chayanda, confirm that there are reserves, and now it suddenly turned out that there was nothing there - it is very difficult to believe. They cannot all be mistaken for decades, ”says Igor Yushkov. Moreover, in his opinion, even if there is at least half of the reserves that are on the balance sheet of the Chayandinskoye field, Gazprom will be able to fulfill the contract with China as a whole and produce 25 billion cubic meters per year. The remaining 13 billion cubic meters per year will go from Kovykta. Officially, gas reserves in Chayanda have been reduced from 1,65 to 1,2 trillion cubic meters of gas.
        https://vz.ru/economy/2020/5/29/1041958.html
        Other games to access this pipe should not be discounted - if you go back 5 years
        Rosneft is ready to sue Gazprom for access to the Power of Siberia export pipeline ... then 40 billion cubic meters. m of gas produced by Rosneft enterprises in Eastern Siberia, and at least the same amount - by other independent producers will join the regional economies https://tass.ru/ekonomika/1291184
        or Rosneft and other independent producers will be able to join the Power of Siberia as early as 2020 - two years after its launch. According to the presentation of the Ministry of Energy, from 2020 to 2025, the system will systematically connect the fields of independent producers to increase the pumping volume by 30 billion cubic meters. https://www.kommersant.ru/amp/2671360
        Yes, and the desire to simply substitute the authorities .... we will see
    3. Errr
      Errr 30 May 2020 08: 11 New
      12
      Quote: Break through
      Now we need to develop and build the Power of Siberia 2!
      The "second Siberian power" is already in the mental work of those in power.

      https://www.gazprom.ru/press/news/2020/march/article502469/
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 30 May 2020 10: 27 New
      +9
      Quote: Break through
      So you don’t have to worry about this project.

      Has Denmark already given permission for Chersky to work?
      1. riwas
        riwas 31 May 2020 04: 38 New
        +4
        Has Denmark already given permission for Chersky to work?

        Not yet.
        Denmark has certain requirements for the characteristics of vessels that have the right to work, and they must confirm that Academician Chersky meets these requirements.
        https://svpressa.ru/economy/article/266688/?utm_source=finobzor.ru
  5. Old partisan
    Old partisan 30 May 2020 05: 42 New
    22
    except how to sell oil and gas over wood over a hill, our coronary bearers cannot actually do anything. But it would be nice to build the power of Siberia 4,5,6 ....... 999 and sell the water of Baikal Lena Ob.
    After all, partners so need drinking water.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 30 May 2020 09: 32 New
      -7
      To trade with water is a dream. Water is a renewable resource, unlike hydrocarbons. You can get up well here.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 30 May 2020 10: 31 New
        -2
        Yes, like you will be dying of thirst will sell water
        1. aglet
          aglet 30 May 2020 20: 21 New
          +3
          sitting in the water by the neck will not buy it
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 May 2020 05: 56 New
    17
    Indeed, the launch of Nord Stream 2, even at half capacity with falling demand, can save Gazprom from having to bargain for gas transit through Ukraine


    Well, it's "maybe someday." So far, there is an agreement between Gazprom and Ukraine for 5 years with guaranteed pumping of 225 billion cubic meters.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 30 May 2020 13: 17 New
      +4
      But there is no such agreement with the Poles yet, for the 3rd quarter they booked it at an auction, in the autumn the Poles want to hold an annual auction ... we'll see
  7. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 30 May 2020 06: 00 New
    19
    I have already said a hundred times, but - I repeat. It is necessary.
    Nord Stream - 2 necessary to complete. A huge amount of labor invested, resources, state prestige, finally.
    But the end in itself to build from this is suicidal.
    Hydrocarbons are not the goal of a country's well-being, but a means.
    It is necessary to develop the country's petrochemical industry.
    Internal gas network. Bring the pipe to the maximum number of settlements in Russia.
    If the state screams that it is building a social society, let it prove by deeds.
    It’s one thing - to put the population in medical masks and close enterprises.
    And to stretch a pipe with gas to every kitchen, even in "unprofitable" regions - that's another conversation.
    This is a concern for people. Conservation.
    Doing this?
    If you are engaged, then somehow quietly. Underground. wink
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 30 May 2020 06: 50 New
      -9
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      Doing this?

      Who seeks will always find:
  8. certero
    certero 30 May 2020 06: 17 New
    17
    You can talk about geopolitics as much as you like, but the unfinished construction of the Nord Stream 2 in time is a serious defeat for Russia. And it is still not clear why the perpetrators of this did not bear any responsibility?
    What, it was not known that a Western company would take a srip?
    So why not bother? In the end, they would land on this ship and at gunpoint forced to complete the completion of 114 km, which would take only a week. And then they would answer and talk about the arbitrariness of the performers. Or, in general, they would have bought this ship before the sanction began, and then would have sold it back in case of emergency.
    And there would not be all this detective story with transitions from the Pacific Ocean.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 30 May 2020 10: 33 New
      +3
      Here it’s just understandable not to bear responsibility if you are not a switchman among the Russian bourgeoisie an iron rule
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 30 May 2020 12: 35 New
      -6
      Quote: certero
      What, it was not known that a Western company would take a srip?

      Did you know very much that Bandera will seize power in Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR and that this part of the Soviet people will be our worst enemies? Do you think that everything can be foreseen for five years in advance, including the victory of Trump in the elections? Do not tell me, you don’t even know what will happen in Europe in a year, but you already reproach those who made deals many years ago, when there was a favorable environment for this.
      Quote: certero
      So why not bother?

      We took care - the gas pipeline will work for thirty-forty years, if only they would not find cheap alternative fuel, but even then the gas will be used in the chemical industry. So everything was invested normally, but with a quick return on investment it doesn’t work out - and now what to tear off the hair on the head?
      Quote: certero
      And there would not be all this detective story with transitions from the Pacific Ocean.

      There is no detective story here - the transit of gas through Ukraine will exist for several years, which is why it makes no sense to make any sudden gestures, because the volumes of total pumping are more important to us now, and not the route along which it goes. These are long-term projects, and you all think in terms of small business - "bought-resold" and you are happy that you have earned today, not thinking about what you will live on tomorrow.
  9. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 30 May 2020 06: 33 New
    +5
    Poland simply lives and breathes hatred of Russia.
    Hatred of Russia is a Polish national idea.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 30 May 2020 07: 13 New
    +6
    Disassembly of TNCs ....
  11. Nikolay87
    Nikolay87 30 May 2020 08: 15 New
    -1
    Decided the fate of Gazprom in the third gas directive of the EU. Gazprom is exempted for 20 years from the implementation of this directive.
  12. 123456789
    123456789 30 May 2020 09: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Paul Siebert
    Internal gas network. Bring the pipe to the maximum number of settlements in Russia.

    What for? To explode? This is an extensive way of economic development.
    It is necessary to process it where it is mined, and to transport processed products (directly from the well) and electricity.
    And to extend a pipe with gas to each kitchen,

    In high-rise buildings, SNiP is prohibited.
  13. 123456789
    123456789 30 May 2020 09: 47 New
    0
    At the moment, the operator of the gas pipeline mentioned above by the German company Nord Stream 2 AG, It is recommended to reserve at least 50% of the gas trunk capacity for alternative suppliers. Alternative suppliers will either have to be looked for or somehow allocated, which again contradicts Russian law.

    But even the most stringent law is not a dogma, if you really need it, you need to change it. Nevertheless, for some time Gazprom will have to adopt the European rules of the game and supply only 2 billion cubic meters of blue fuel per year through the Nord Stream 55 pipes instead of the project 27,5 billion.

    Complete the first thread and run it at 100%, having reserved the second for alternative suppliers. And there is either donkey or padish laughing either coronavirus
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 30 May 2020 10: 13 New
    0
    Profit, profit, ahead of everything.
    All political battles revolve around her.
  15. jekasimf
    jekasimf 30 May 2020 10: 56 New
    +7
    I do not understand why there is no information about the lawsuits of Gazprom against the Swiss company Allseas ...
    She violated the contract! Gazprom suffered enormous losses. Is that all get away with it? And .... Gazprom fucked up, and he pretends that it is necessary ?!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 May 2020 15: 13 New
      -8
      Can you name the sum of these colossal losses?
  16. Mikhail Sorokin
    Mikhail Sorokin 30 May 2020 11: 10 New
    +8
    I'm wondering where the scribblers got the information "two Russian ships came to German territorial waters". I mean Chersky and Fortuna. Where did Fortune come from ??? She hangs out there in Mukran, damn it, how many, more than a year for sure.
  17. borys
    borys 30 May 2020 11: 46 New
    +1
    Gazprom itself created most of these problems. First (and main) -
    the vicious idea of ​​transit in itself. Russian gas flows through
    another state. Therefore, Russia does not have the right and ability to control
    to realize the passage of this very gas. But at the same time, Russia
    (Gazprom) is responsible to the Germans, Czechs, etc. for delivery
    gas. This state of affairs is abnormal and unnatural. Normal
    and a different, simpler and more robust approach is natural. Namely,
    simple trading. Russia sells gas to Ukraine. All calculations by counters,
    established on both sides of the border. Gas served - money for a barrel, money
    no - the tap is closed. At the same time, the neighbors release gas at prices below European,
    which is quite logical. After all, the neighbors will need to pump this gas, carry
    other operating expenses. Plus, they have a legal right to something
    make money. After all, it is a commercial enterprise. Further, these
    neighbors sell goods (gas) to the next neighbors who are to the west. Already
    at a different price. With this approach, Russia does not answer to the Germans and
    other Europeans for what is happening on Independence. Most likely,
    profit in the dry residue will be no less than today's. Maybe
    and more. With this headache there will be much less. Yes, and by ourselves
    Europeans will have less reason to stir up water in Ukraine.
    1. Avior
      Avior 30 May 2020 12: 08 New
      +9
      This question has been raised for a long time.
      Gazprom is against such a scheme.
      In practice, this will lead to the loss of control over gas trade, and, accordingly, the political component in trade
  18. borys
    borys 30 May 2020 15: 07 New
    +3
    So I’m talking about this. Gazprom officials are interested in all kinds of
    complex and muddy schemes. You can travel abroad for free,
    to drink Bavarian beer. Penalties for decisions of various European
    arbitrations not of their own pockets are paid. Simple and clear
    they don’t like schemes. You won’t get enough of them.
  19. Terenin
    Terenin 30 May 2020 15: 16 New
    0
    . “Nord Stream 2” is nothing more than a “killer of Ukraine”,
    I don’t know about Ukraine, but if we finish building it, then many of the officials and oligarchs will be "ordered" to the United States (as well as their property there). winked And thanks a lot for that yes
  20. aglet
    aglet 30 May 2020 20: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    It’s interesting how it would have been built if not for the pipe (the power of Siberia)

    "The Amur GPP is a gas processing plant under construction near the town of Svobodny in the Amur Region of Russia. The project belongs to Gazprom. The planned launch date is 2024."
    it has not yet been built, and even the timing has been shifted to the right, as they say now. It will clean gas for China
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 May 2020 20: 35 New
      -5
      They will clean and produce other technical gases Argon Helium and the rest, not only for China but for the domestic market and the whole world - and these gases are an order of magnitude more expensive than what goes through the pipes.
  21. aglet
    aglet 30 May 2020 20: 19 New
    +4
    Quote: Old partisan
    Partners need drinking water so much

    it’s not yet evening — gas will end, they will sell water
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 May 2020 20: 41 New
      -9
      Why sell water - you need to think bigger. Russia will sell and build nuclear power plant transmission lines pumping stations to drill artesian wells to extract and desalinate water - in countries where fresh water will be desperately needed.
  22. Alexander Kashin
    Alexander Kashin 31 May 2020 08: 12 New
    +2
    Quote: major147
    Quote: Paul Siebert
    We are already selling wheat.
    At least that's what they say to us.

    "The European media are unhappy that the world's largest wheat exporter has stopped the global export of any grain. Now the supply of sunflower oil, which is much healthier than palm oil, is under threat. Judging by the Belgian edition of EUObserver, Russia should for some reason not only be responsible for food security Europe, but also to do everything to ensure that the EU receives the best goods. "

    I think that in the beginning Russia should provide itself with everything, and then export, otherwise it turns out that gasoline is more expensive than behind the hill, although oil is produced from us (in Iran and in the UAE it’s cheap, but are we worse? for the price.), gas is produced from us, and the price (you immediately start to think whether it is worth connecting or not).?, and not everywhere. It may be necessary to include an amendment to the constitution that the mineral resources and natural resources belong to the people of Russia ?, Yes, and to squeeze all the MANAGERS with all the ensuing consequences, the prospect of sending the Arctic Ocean to the southern coast of the Arctic Ocean for theft and making decisions not in the interests of Russia, but for their selfish ones.
  23. Alexander Kashin
    Alexander Kashin 31 May 2020 08: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: Vadim237
    They will clean and produce other technical gases Argon Helium and the rest, not only for China but for the domestic market and the whole world - and these gases are an order of magnitude more expensive than what goes through the pipes.

    Even if they sell at a higher price, then for ordinary citizens it will turn out that they will receive all the profit in the oshore and on their personal accounts, and the support from the state will be for these companies (as now oil and gas), and not for ordinary citizens (in the case of support “It’s not visible, where is the support for pensioners? They raised the retirement age, and the pension itself is meager.).
  24. Alexander Kashin
    Alexander Kashin 31 May 2020 08: 27 New
    0
    Quote: Terenin
    . “Nord Stream 2” is nothing more than a “killer of Ukraine”,
    I don’t know about Ukraine, but if we finish building it, then many of the officials and oligarchs will be "ordered" to the United States (as well as their property there). winked And thanks a lot for that yes

    Redirect their path to the north, the region of the Magadan region, it is high time.
  25. Alexander Kashin
    Alexander Kashin 31 May 2020 08: 40 New
    0
    Quote: BrTurin
    But there is no such agreement with the Poles yet, for the 3rd quarter they booked it at an auction, in the autumn the Poles want to hold an annual auction ... we'll see

    Don’t look, but for us, simple citizens, what’s this? Everything will go into a bottomless pocket, without a return. So you can not watch, nothing will change.
  26. aglet
    aglet 31 May 2020 19: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Vadim237
    Why sell water - you need to think bigger

    not even funny already
  27. aglet
    aglet 31 May 2020 19: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    They will clean and produce other technical gases Argon Helium and the rest, not only for China

    argon and helium is, in terms of volume, a penny. the plant will clean methane from nitrogen, the Chinese do not need nitrogen, they paid for methane