NASA proposal to participate in the lunar program is studied in Roskosmos

It became known that Roskosmos received a memorandum of participation in the implementation of the Gateway moon mission program. This information was confirmed in the Russian space agency.

Roscosmos notes that the document that NASA sent to Russia was previously agreed with the US Department of State.
Roscosmos reports that at the moment there is a study of the American proposal.

From a corporation message:

The state corporation is preparing a position for this project, where it will formulate the conditions and format for Russian participation in the Gateway program.

It is further reported that after this the final position of Roscosmos will be presented on participation in the near-moon program, which the United States of America is going to implement.

NASA confirms the fact that it actually sent an invitation to Roscosmos about joint activities on the project of the Gateway near-moon orbital station. This was announced recently by NASA director Jim Brydenstein, who is often criticized in the United States for "loyalty to Russia."

It should be noted that last year Russia decided to return to the option of a joint project after leaving it. Then (before the decision to return to the project) it was considered that the role assigned to Russia was “insufficient”.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

NASA proposal to participate in the lunar program is studied in Roskosmos

What kind of study? Herself, herself .

[rocket757]

The state corporation is preparing a position for this project, where it will formulate the conditions and format for Russian participation in the Gateway program.

By considering it is possible ... it must be remembered that the proposal came from a sharpie and he won’t play on garlic! It is also clear that he needs something from you and this is not your kind smile and parting good word !!!

[Thrall]

Elon Mask them (NASA) to help!

[Blackmokona]

So he already signed up to make a truck for the Lunar Station and landing landing.

[Zanika]

Quote: Thrall

Elon Mask them (NASA) to help!

Here ..9 years, everyone can not launch a manned ship ..
They are terribly afraid of flying without Russians! They postponed it again, but they came up with such a form, well, just like Pokemon from Star Wars, etc. It is funny and sad at the same time !

[orionvitt]

Quote: Zanika

Set aside again

That's why for one reason one hundred percent was sure that they would not fly. Even turned on the live broadcast, see how they will be excused. And you must have canceled the launch ten seconds before the end of the countdown. Referred to weather conditions. . (A bad dancer is always disturbed by something other than the weather, but something else.) And so, people were gathered, held in tension, the launch was canceled and the job was done. I here on the forum, even with one friend of the bet concluded that the 27th will not fly. Hey, comrade under the nickname "engineer Shchukin", how about self-employment for half a year? A bargain is a bargain. And about the spacesuit from Space X, it's just an anecdote. How is it possible to fly into space in these "stylish pajamas", which they pass off as a spacesuit? Or does Hollywood rule again? It's nothing, PR is everything.

[Vadim237]

Weather conditions at the time of launch there were cool

I would postpone the same launch.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: orionvitt

That's why for one reason one hundred percent was sure that they would not fly. Even turned on the live broadcast, see how they will be excused. And you must have canceled the launch ten seconds before the end of the countdown. Referred to weather conditions.

I’m curious, why do you have such universal joy that the flight was postponed? What do you personally want from this? And what will you do if on Saturday the flight takes place, tearing all your hair out?
For me, the question is not whether the Americans will fly or not, but that the huge Soviet legacy was ... mmm .. lost over the past 30 years and we certainly have nothing to boast about.

[orionvitt]

So can I still be happy, another American aircraft carrier? The US positions Russia as the primary enemy, so why should I be happy if they succeed? You can keep "Human values" for yourself. By the way, the huge Soviet legacy flies successfully, and the Americans use it no matter what. And the "greatest technological power" has not been able to reach orbit on its own for nine years. So your type of "irony" is not appropriate.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: orionvitt

So can I still rejoice, the next American aircraft carrier? The US is positioning Russia as the primary enemy, so why should I rejoice if they succeed?

Mdyayayaya ..., it seems that you pick up a tambourine and start dancing with shouts "let America die."
Well, let’s say it will die right tomorrow and you’ll have something to add from this? Can they steal less? can gasoline become cheaper or salary will be added?
I just can not understand the logic and motives of Urya-Riding.
Can you finally understand that the USSR does not exist and those who destroyed it now rule the country, daily, hourly robbing, plundering and destroying the country?
During the period of the pandemic, friends of a friend became rich by another 64 ochrinilliards, and you still continue to ride around "greatness", praising your robbers.
This makes no sense.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Stroporez

This makes no sense.

It's in your head. What are you carrying? What does the USSR have to do with it? However, it is clear that you are not given to understand. Humiliatingly calling people "uryayaya-skakuasami", you give yourself away. Namely, that you are a "patriot" of a completely different state, namely the United States. From your point of view, everything is good there, only in Russia it is bad. And you selflessly repeat the mantra "God save America." On the other hand, tell me a country where everything is perfect. However, for you there is one. They also found me, "hail, pancake on the hill." You, calling some "uryakalka", absolutely do not notice like your attitude towards a completely hostile overseas state.
PS If tomorrow, as you put it, "America dies", believe me, only a small stratum of people, your character and beliefs, will grieve. And all over the world, accordions will quickly run out. Everybody's going to break up at the funeral of America.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: orionvitt

If tomorrow, as you put it, "America dies", believe me, only a small stratum of people, of your character and beliefs, will grieve.

Here it is! If you / you find at least once in my comments that I spoke pejoratively about Russia, then along with your "sweatpants" eat mine too!
I tell you ..., I speak for Putinism, which because of you an accomplice, left me without retirement, prospects, chances and hopes, although you want to deprive the chances of the whole multi-million country.
Threat. Believe me, there will be no mercy to partners.
Now enjoy your any amers, contra.

[orionvitt]

Go get some medical treatment. Or a sleep slip. And put things in your head, otherwise it’s a mess.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: orionvitt

Or a sleep slip.

Let me remind you of folk wisdom:

Pian overslept, and (eccentric) never.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: orionvitt

That's why for one reason one hundred percent was sure that they would not fly. Even turned on the live broadcast, see how they will be excused.

But now what, will you eat your own footcloths? I would like to see ...., pah, damn it ...

[Starover_Z]

Quote: rocket757

By considering it is possible ... it must be remembered that the proposal came from a sharpie and he won’t play on garlic!

The Americans, in spite of their "lunar successes" and the joint operation of the ISS, do not have something key to create a lunar orbital station. And knowing what they lack, you can enter the project only on equal terms, with the provision of all the necessary information from the "partners"! This means that it is necessary to include real specialists who can ask the necessary and necessary questions, and not officials from all sorts of ministries!

[rocket757]

Quote: Starover_Z

And knowing what they lack, it is possible to enter the project only on equal terms, with the provision of all the necessary information from the "partners"!

Striped ones are already organically unable to work on garlic. This chip, exclusivity, they drove under the skull for many, many years.
They will never be partners,
At the moment they want to get whatsoever, nothing more.
there are no "partners" there, the enemy has settled there .... he does not wish us any good.

[Civil]

But there is no choice or this gateway is being developed by Roscosmos or Rogozin with sons they are not taking into the new international program.

[mitroha]

Quote: Mavrikiy

What kind of study? Herself, herself .

We won’t pull it alone, just don’t even pull it financially

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Mitroha

We won’t pull it alone, just don’t even pull it financially

You can’t eat without exploring the moon? Strange, but I and caviar and compote are good .....

[Thrall]

Quote: Mitroha

Quote: Mavrikiy

What kind of study? Herself, herself .

We won’t pull it alone, just don’t even pull it financially

Do not pull for rubles or dollars?

[rocket757]

Quote: Thrall

Do not pull for rubles or dollars?

Well, yes, if you do not give some, to distill the rubles into dollars and cover with that "green" the place of the future landing somewhere there, over the hill! Then there will be enough funds for everything ...

[halpat]

Quote: Thrall

Quote: Mitroha

Quote: Mavrikiy

What kind of study? Herself, herself .

We won’t pull it alone, just don’t even pull it financially

Do not pull for rubles or dollars?

Pull for electronic yuan, if that :)

[kartalovkolya]

They will pull, even as they pull both rubles and dollars, as well as pull everything in a row, such "blue thieves", well, just like Ilf and Petrov in 12 chairs !!!

[ALARI]

We won’t pull for rubles, yes for dollars. Even the president said that an expensive dollar is good, you can get more rubles. Give the bucks, we will do everything for you, for us nothing is needed.

[venik]

Quote: Mavrikiy

You can’t eat without exploring the moon? Strange, but I and caviar and compote are good .....

=====
Don't forget vodka! (What caviar and WITHOUT "vodka"!)

[Interlocutor]

We won’t pull it alone, just don’t even pull it financially

"Sami" - no one can pull. "Sami" is generally not interesting to anyone. It is interesting when someone catches up, overtakes, helps, participates.
There, in the back of the head, you need to scratch what and who needs to be on the moon. I did not understand how many articles I didn’t look at, but what people need there. Here it is necessary to track in a timely manner and to counteract stones from space.
Learning to protect yourself from cosmic radiation is a must. Make a fast ship - probably necessary.
What to do on the moon ........ Well, does it work out technology ......

[mark1]

I find the joint lunar program with China more interesting. In this case, the potential of both countries would be largely revealed and to a lesser extent there would be a risk of "rotting" and pushing their partner into the category of "junior" ones.
Yes, the Chinese are not a gift, but Americans have an order of magnitude less conscience.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: mark1

The joint lunar program with China seems more interesting to me.

I agree with the previous speaker!

[viktor_ui]

With China, one and a half or two years ago, they wanted together ... but everything was quiet.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: viktor_ui

With China, one and a half or two years ago, they wanted together ... but everything was quiet.

Is it due to the activities of Rogozin?

[NDR-791]

China, if it invests its money in it, then in the first place it will not cut it, and in the second it considers everything invented and built its

[Piramidon]

Quote: viktor_ui

With China, one and a half or two years ago, they wanted together ... but everything was quiet.

The Chinese rely only on themselves. And the Yankees have long shown their worth to the whole world. They will take from partners what they need and throw.

[slipped]

Quote: viktor_ui

With China, one and a half or two years ago, they wanted together ... but everything was quiet.

Why would We have signed agreements on exploration of the moon and deep space. In addition, Luna-26 and Luna-27 will work in conjunction with the Chinese Chang'e-7

[carnifexx]

If I do not confuse anything, you are talking about the PRC. This is the country that promised one country two systems to Hong Kong (in fact, one system), teaches the Uyghurs to love the CPC (concentration camps for Muslims), selects jobs in Central Asia (Kazakhstan, for example), builds railways in Angola with the hands of its workers doing maintenance independently and even bringing in your prostitutes? A China that does not recognize intellectual property, especially regarding Russia ... this China? Well, yes, that's right. "For soap on mattresses! Let's die for a PDA!"

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Carnifexx

This is the country that promised one country two systems to Hong Kong (in fact, one system)

With property rights in China, things are even better than today's Russia. Raiders will not lie.

Quote: Carnifexx

teaches to love the CCP Uyghurs (concentration camps for Muslims)

What, right on the basis of circumcision, grab the unfortunate?

Quote: Carnifexx

selects jobs in Central Asia (Kazakhstan for example)

But is this not a complaint to the leadership of Kazakhstan?

Quote: Carnifexx

builds railroads in Angola with the hands of its workers doing maintenance on their own and even acquiring their prostitutes?

Who are you more offended for, for the crooked blacks or for local sex workers?

Quote: Carnifexx

China that does not recognize intellectual property, especially in relation to Russia

Something high-profile ships in Russia in relation to China in this regard is not heard.

Quote: Carnifexx

"For soap on mattresses! Let's die for a PDA!"

Then piss off!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Carnifexx

and even bringing her prostitutes

What especially, personally, touches you. Yes?

[Zanika]

Quote: mark1

The joint lunar program with China seems more interesting to me. In this case, the potential of both countries would be revealed to a large extent.

The coupling would be serious and would have achieved a lot .. But the Chinese people would be cunning to use technology to trick them ..
But if their money, hard work and our technologies .. Could fly to Maras !!! Oh, dreams ..
Amers can’t be trusted !!!!

[Doccor18]

NASA proposal to participate in the lunar program is studied in Roskosmos

Well, that was what was required to prove ....
And then to the moon, to the moon ... And without the Russians, something zilch can happen.

[Vadim237]

This is not about landing on the moon, about participating in the creation of a space station, and even those with bird rights.

[rotmistr60]

At the moment, there is a study of the American proposal.

It is necessary to study every American proposal (invitation) and not only to Roscosmos, tk. they are often extremely one-sided, i.e. exclusively in favor of the United States. By the way, only recently the headlines of some Russian media shouted that NASA would not invite Russia to participate in this project. And "analysts" from certain circles hastened to draw conclusions that Russian space is a thing of the past and the Americans do not see the prospects for cooperation with us. Again, the Russian "liberals" have screwed up, because the Russian side will decide to participate or not.

[Yok Migarek]

Quote: rotmistr60

At the moment, there is a study of the American proposal.

It is necessary to study every American proposal (invitation) and not only to Roscosmos, tk. they are often extremely one-sided, i.e. exclusively in favor of the United States. By the way, only recently the headlines of some Russian media shouted that NASA would not invite Russia to participate in this project. And "analysts" from certain circles hastened to draw conclusions that Russian space is a thing of the past and the Americans do not see the prospects for cooperation with us. Again, the Russian "liberals" have screwed up, because the Russian side will decide to participate or not.

The main thing is to move away from the study of the issue "effective managers". The contract they signed will be terrible!

[7,62x54]

No matter how Rogozin was lured to NASA.

[NDR-791]

It would be better to be lured, let them saw there

[Break through]

Good. We will think about it.

[viktor_ui]

We need to work together with other countries and take part in the exploration of near and deep space. For the time being they are still inviting somewhere and making proposals. If a manned Dragon is launched on May 31, then another "KOZYR "they will knock them out from Roscosmos - how are we going to scare them further? What else can we not give after that ? Tales that they all fly all the time on our engines will be left to the children. Only an international bunch and then there will be a real movement without any banter. And then there’s already gone the talking room about our personal orbital station, where they want to punch on the missing and under-delivered modules for the ISS At the lunar point of Lagrange (which of the three) the station was already suspended in language. The rescue system was tested on heavy rocket launchers. Last year, the whole world was dead of our greatest launches and we were all shocked ... and so you can already sprinkle a chubby volume I promise to promise. I don’t joke and don’t get angry - just humanly I want good and significant things in this industry, and it’s from the XNUMXst century that everyone has overtaken us. We’re going to ride the sheikhs for an hour ... but doubts torment me, because they love comfort and comparing the Union and the Dragon - their choice will be obvious.

[Ren]

Quote: viktor_ui

for they love comfort and comparing the Union and the Dragon - their choice will be obvious.

You compared the comfort of the Union and the Dragon? The volume of the household compartment, equipment, etc.?
Even for comparison:
- Crew Dragon is the only compartment (cabin, pressurized compartment) to accommodate the entire payload (4 astronauts + cargo + change house) - 11 m³ (no toilet, all the way in diapers),
- Soyuz (crew - 3 people, "living space" - 10,45 m³, "free volume" (for cargo) - 6,5 m³):
- utility compartment - "living" compartment - 6,6 m³, free volume (for cargo) - 4 m³, toilet available,
- the descent vehicle - "living" compartment - 3,85 m³, free volume (for cargo) - 2,5 m³.
Where will sheikhs be more comfortable? What do you know about the personal hygiene of Muslims, for example, after "big" - are they ready to wear diapers for themselves?
Not a single faithful Muslim has flown on American pepelats and does not fly - for there is no outhouse.
And a slightly altered "bearded" anecdote :

President Trump accepts condolences over the Crew Dragon disaster, the secretary reports received condolences from France, from England. And from Russia? And the Russians sent condolences 15 minutes before take-off.

[slipped]

Quote: Ren

Crew Dragon is the only compartment (cabin, pressurized compartment) to accommodate the entire payload (4 astronauts + cargo + change house) - 11 m³ (no toilet, all the way in diapers)

You confused it with the cargo version, the Cru Dragon has ~ 9 m3, but in the chairs there is still more room to sit and the windows are larger. And so, yes, if you do not constantly sit in a chair, then Soyuz MS is more comfortable. And the ladies have a place to retire.

Quote: Ren

Not a single faithful Muslim has flown on American pepelats and does not fly - for there is no outhouse.

they flew on the shuttle, there was some sort of toilet.

[Interlocutor]

If a manned Dragon is launched on May 31, then another "KOZYR wassat" will be knocked out from Roscosmos - what then will we frighten them with?

We did not scare them. We will also continue to fly with them, we have them. Only places for free.

Last year, the whole world went crazy from our greatest launches and we were all shocked ...

It was a normal year. Twenty-five launches. All are successful. There are 7 launches in this.

[orionvitt]

Quote: viktor_ui

for they love comfort and comparing the Union and the Dragon - their choice will be obvious

Nothing obvious. In space, crude pragmatism wins, not comfort. He who loves comfort, let him sit at home on the couch. By the way, in "comfort" and in "stylish pajamas from Space x", no one has yet flown anywhere. Something tells me that 31 again something will happen. If not another typhoon, so an earthquake.

[nobody111body]

you should not peck at this bait-kidnyak through the body is provided; it is better to create a joint project with China and India; and this mask is a schuller and phon pharon

[Greenwood]

Quote: nobody

with China and India

Who hate each other. Obviously hopeless business.

[unaha]

But do China and India know that they are going to create something with someone? )))
"And this Musk Schuller and Fonfaron" - not without that (but with all his oddities, rockets fly), and Bezos too? Russia, having a school and resources, began to develop a methane engine in 1997. There is no engine (as a finished product). Blue Origin started development with nothing in 2011, the engine is ready, construction of the plant ends this year.

[slipped]

Quote: unaha

But do China and India know that they are going to create something with someone? )))

Not only in the know Indian cosmonauts are now undergoing training at the CPC, and a joint commission on the moon and deep space is working with China.

Quote: unaha

Having a school and resources, Russia began to develop a methane engine in 1997. There is no engine (as a finished product).

Another RD-180 burned on methane in the late 80s. But this is not the point, the LNG engine must be created for a specific carrier. Just such an engine for 80 tons of thrust - RD-0169 is now being created, both in the ground and in high-altitude versions. Previously, a 40-ton RD-0162D2A engine was made and passed all the checks.

The RD-0169 engine will be installed on the Soyuz-LNG launch vehicle.

[unaha]

Yes, Roscosmos and the National Space Administration of China agreed to significantly expand cooperation in projects for studying the Moon and creating joint orbital constellations "- this was in 18, have you heard anything about joint projects since then? I have not heard. does not mean that they are not there (you never know about which I have not heard)), but ...
And the Indians were transported before, and we will probably continue to carry them until the Americans run around their missiles sufficiently.
"RD-0169 is being created now," again yes, it is being created, but all projects are in the future tense. Like hangars, federations, etc.

[slipped]

Quote: unaha

I did not hear.

well, it's your own fault

here is the summer of 19 https://www.roscosmos.ru/26576/

here is a congratulation from the head of KNKA this year

Quote: unaha

you never know what I have not heard)), but ....

apparently - a lot

Quote: unaha

And the Indians were transported before, and we will probably continue to carry them until the Americans run around their missiles sufficiently.

No, they are prepared for flight on their domestic ship.

Quote: unaha

"RD-0169 is being created now," again yes, it is being created, but all projects are in the future tense. Like hangars, federations, etc.

You have something buggy. RD-0169 will be installed on the rocket when required. The same is with the Angara, "Federation", etc. Now we have other taxiways flying, as well as Proton-M, Soyuz-2 and Soyuz MS - the best products in their classes.

[unaha]

Well, I do not share your optimism. And we will see the actual result in 10 years.

[slipped]

The actual result is visible now, you just want to see it. And do not wait for this 10 years. For example, on the same Chinese lunar that are now on the moon, there are Russian RTGs. It is thanks to them that the Chinese do not freeze during a moonlit night.

[unaha]

Being a kit supplier is also very good. But overall it is a regression.

[slipped]

Quote: unaha

Being a kit supplier is also very good. But overall it is a regression.

They do not know how to do this "kit" the way we can do it. Therefore, they buy. And not only them. Moreover, Rosatom is now, on the contrary, increasing the production of RTGs. Including for domestic spacecraft. Hike regression is only in you, in your head.

[unaha]

"Hike regression only in you, in your head" - ready to give examples of progress? "They do not know how to do this" complete set "the way we can do it" - yes, we can (we have been able to do it for a long time) and this is not progress, it is stagnation.

[slipped]

Quote: unaha

ready to give examples of progress?

Have you been banned in Google?

Of the last major decisions, there is such a thing:

and already in space far beyond the orbit of the moon and works great

Quote: unaha

"They do not know how to do this" complete set "the way we can do it" - yes, we can (we have been able to do it for a long time) and this is not progress, it is stagnation.

I say - in my head. We sell a lot of things.

[Maks1995]

Dreams Dreams....
Until Nasa teaches them our memoranda, and we nasa ...
I remember, according to the previous promises of the Moon, we had to reach ourselves in 2015 ... And Rogozin is becoming thicker ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

It would be interesting to analyze the number of scientific research programs carried out by our cosmonauts at their stations and by our cosmonauts at the international station. Regardless of the results.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that our astronauts had such programs at the international station at least. All research went to the mattresses.
The question arises - why do we need such cooperation? All cream will be collected by mattresses, smiling cute.

[rocket757]

Our space program needs to be "repaired" ...
Where to start ... there’s no big secret. Everything is as usual.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: rocket757

Where to start ... there’s no big secret. Everything is as usual.

With fools and roads?

[rocket757]

Quote: Vasyan1971

With fools and roads?

This is understandable, it is necessary, but this is, all, according to another department. Here on "high-flying frames" will have to swing.
You still have to climb that "height" ...

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: rocket757

but this, all the same, in another department

Fools, they interfere in all departments on the road.

[rocket757]

Shozh do ... we don’t have a single service dealing immediately with fools and roads .... Is it really SKR ???

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: rocket757

Shozh do ...

Yes. Eternal trouble. Like weeds. You can’t get out of any chemistry without ruining the soil. Only by hands, each, personally ...
Oh, hell, garden ... My back, back ... Sorry, managed to get sick ...

[rocket757]

Come on ..... launch the "drone" in the garden, under the name "my trembling half" !!! She is less than a year old, her back is flexible, to the envy of us !!!
Although, we ourselves also can’t stay idle ... forward, to ... not wine stores, to finish the quail!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: rocket757

run into the garden of the "drone", under the name "my trembling half"

But in my case - she earns a denyuzhku. My antelope is golden. So I myself closer to the ground ...

[rocket757]

This is so lucky! Mine is better to dig in the garden, a boom there are natur products from the garden.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: rocket757

This is so lucky!

Yes. Who, how to get settled ...
Zombie apocalypse, his mother ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Zombie apocalypse, his mother ...

Wow, sadness, I broke all plans! I would like to go fishing with friends ... and there is a river, fishing rods of maidens ... mermaids, under a barbecue and horse .. under a little white
Nothing, a holiday will come to our street.

[JonnyT]

Here Rogozin and his kodla mzdaimtsev are glad now - NASA itself was invited !!! Well, it means that they will cut the money - uh, envy to all senators. Now Rogozin and Co. will push and pull by the ears this collaboration with NASA, despite its loss to the Russian Federation. And what’s very convenient, NASA pays money, you don’t have to work hard, and it’s not scary that NASA will actually manage Roscosmos, all failures can also be attributed to NASA !!!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: JonnyT

they will cut money

Quote: JonnyT

no sweat work

Quote: JonnyT

all failures can also be attributed to NASA !!!

And my grandmother taught me that judging people by themselves is not necessary.

[JonnyT]

Your grandmother is a very wise person
She accidentally did not say that it was necessary to judge not by words, but by deeds and results?
Well, how is Rogozin and the East company built there ??? Maybe they made a breakthrough in the space sphere?
Or maybe I am confusing something, and total theft, money throwing by hard workers, directors of Roscosmos allies in those sitting abroad is normal! ?? You here like to write slogans pseudo-patriotic and block outright thieves

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: JonnyT

You here like to write slogans pseudo-patriotic and block outright thieves

Really? Where? When? Whom?
In turn, throwing slogans?
Tru patriotic?

Quote: JonnyT

Well, how is Rogozin and the East company built there ???

One must think that if you were in his place, the result would be different?

[Interlocutor]

And who do you propose instead of Rogozin? Someone rip off the bat. A bunch of moon rovers ..... rovers .....
Offer.

[NordUral]

And in the Union could offer someone instead of the Queen, for example? There are TECHNARI, not balazol type Rogozin.

[Interlocutor]

And in the Union could offer someone instead of the Queen, for example? There are TECHNARI, not balazol type Rogozin.

You speak Rogozin. No questions. Surname in the studio. You erased the inscription from the board. So write a new one. You are not a talker ......

[NordUral]

You see, Interlocutor, from my hemp it is difficult to offer and know those who are worthy to successfully replace Rogozin and the like. I could understand in my company who and where can and should work. I clearly answered you?

[Interlocutor]

So Rogozin

[NordUral]

I would laugh at a couple with you, but sadly, for some reason.

[Interlocutor]

Yes, nothing is sad. A man works like any other would work in his place. There is a limit to money; there are plans. There are ideas whether they could realize the idea or not. We still don’t recognize the inner kitchen. We even know about plans, only from interviews. There is an official site of Roscosmos. Read and do not let a tear. In any case, any action of Roscosmos in the world press and even in our liberal one will decrease. Whether it is success or failure. No difference. If we had postponed it at 4, 3.55 minutes before the launch of a new ship, and then for three days, our cosmonautics would have been buried with large shovels all these three days. And then silenceaaaaaaaa. The case will be done. Silent glanders. In the meantime, we will rejoice (I sincerely say) for the Americans that they finally blinded the ship. And for sure they will fly on it. Good leap.

[NordUral]

Well, Interlocutor, we are just talking about different things. The last thing I will say is that the cosmos, like any business related to technology, must be controlled by techies.

[Ros 56]

Stripes do not need to be contacted at all, because they will then declare their leadership, as well as in victory in WWII. Themselves, all on their own engines. These thimbles are unpredictable.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Ros 56

These thimbles are unpredictable.

Exactly that predictable - you can’t believe

[Vasyan1971]

Well yes. First they will receive the missing (brains), and then, on the basis of infringement of the rights of some morally suffering gay anti-Semites, they will impose sanctions or even remove them from the project, like Turkey.

[Lontus]

Quote: Vasyan1971

suffering gay anti-Semites

where have you seen this?
on the contrary, gays and eurephiles always stand for each other

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Lontus

where have you seen this?

It will be necessary for the introduction of appropriate sanctions, in one fell swoop.

Quote: Lontus

on the contrary, gays and eurephiles always stand for each other

But they suffer very much in barbarian Russia ...

[Lontus]

I am categorically against joint international projects in space exploration.
They only inhibit progress by replacing fierce competition with a bureaucratic sinecure.

[Lontus]

for joint projects with other countries advocate:
- bureaucrats are eager for comfortable and interesting business trips
- dealers wishing to fish in troubled waters
- spies who want to frolic in the turmoil and expand the intelligence network,
--potential traitors who want to be useful lackeys to their future owners
The only acceptable option:
- Only for money (not less than cost price + solid profit) to take foreign astronauts of researchers and their scientific instruments and mechanisms. Or, for money, draw an ad on spacecraft or spacecraft.

[sergo1914]

CER Nasa, not Vasa. Inspired. Where the lunar modules fell - the place is full. We can prove by referendum. Lunatic will confirm.

[NordUral]

And more specifically on the proposal? Pass on the latest Soviet developments and sit on the rug at the docking hatch so that our feet would be wiped off?

[Courier]

Who wiped feet in space about you?

You need to look soberly, Russia itself will not create a lunar station. With NASA they will easily do and will fly in the next 10 years.

[NordUral]

Ask about the state of affairs on the ISS and will not ask such questions.

[Interlocutor]

And what kind of things we have on the ISS are bad ... We don’t know what is really being done there. They tell us how they sleep, eat, wash, look for holes in the buildings .... In general, life ..... What's wrong?

[NordUral]

Everything is wonderful, happy for you.

[Klingon]

right now, urya-patriots zamusuyut us here, because it is difficult to take off the pink glasses

[Knell wardenheart]

DSG is a very strange project, to be honest. Sculpt in general the analogue of the ISS in satellite orbit, without a magnetic field and atmosphere - where you have to hang out in 3 days from Earth and, at the same time, in complete isolation from Lunar resources - what is the actual benefit of such an enterprise? Cargoes are delivered to the ISS according to the parameters of the NOU - in general, the rocket minimum, and to the moon it will be a smaller mass output for the same money, but all the same things will have to be removed - food, water, fuel to correct the orbit. Doing this is almost as regular as for the ISS. It is clear that in the USA they expect from us deshmanish delivery of routine cargo and our achievements in water / air recovery, but what is our benefit in this enterprise?

[slipped]

NASA’s proposal to participate in the near-moon program will suit us only if:

1. It will be truly international cooperation with the leadership of a program divided between countries (like Russia and the USA in the ISS).
2. Station segments will be independent in design from each other and combined according to the type of their interface. (as in the EPAS and ISS programs).

Here is an example of such a station:

[Muddy Seeing ORACLE]

Probably they will offer to provide the station with Russian toilets ... Since there is hardly anything more technogenic in Russia ...
ps Unfortunately...

[75 Sergey]

We have created an orbital program, training cosmonauts and their rehabilitation after flights, they have mapped the MCC, and now they want to get to our lunar program. Although, at least we will designate our flag on the moon differently with our hand-held grabbers, with their bottomless pockets, we are the last poherim.

[1536]

You can't trust the Americans! Nowhere and in nothing. They, firstly, need dog teams, and secondly, salmon to feed the dogs on the way. But as soon as they get to the "gold", everything, the "friendship" will end, their greed and criminal nature will prevail. With all the ensuing consequences.

[Klingon]

I don’t understand the optimism of the patriots, what to think about, Roscosmos, by default, has long been in deep touch, if the Yankees with their two commercial projects (Blue Origin + SpaceX) burn out, then even the role of a cabman will no longer be for Roscosmos. There will be no injections, no at all. 35 million launch of SpaceX versus 90 million Union significant difference.
And Rogozin was still going to revive Buran, (stupidity) an analogue of an expensive shuttle even striped ones having a printing press refused ... the shorter the further into the forest the more doubtful the future of Roskosmos in any space programs, except on paper ... and skyscrapers in the form rockets build