Under the flag of St. Andrew


The ceremony of raising St. Andrew's flag on the corridor "Loud" of project 20380


St. Andrew's flag, which became the official symbol of Russian fleetIn Russia is familiar to everyone. The Russian naval flag proudly flutters on the warships of the Navy. Moreover, the St. Andrew flag itself has a very long and glorious historyin which Christian traditions, sovereign stories, examples of courage and heroism intertwined. Suffice it to say that for all the time the St. Andrew's flag voluntarily descended on Russian ships only twice. The second time this happened during the Tsushima battle, which became the blackest page in the history of the Russian fleet.

Why is the flag called Andreevsky


The flag is called St. Andrew in honor of St. Andrew, the Apostle and the first disciple of Jesus Christ. Thus, the origin of the flag directly refers us to the origins of Christianity. According to legend, St. Andrew the First-Called was crucified on a diagonal cross, which subsequently gave the name to both the cross and the flag. The Apostle was called the First-Called because he was the first whom Christ called to his disciples.

According to the history of early Christianity, Andrew was born in Bethsaida, located on the northern shore of the Sea of ​​Galilee. He was the brother of the Apostle Peter, both brothers were fishermen, which subsequently determined the protection of the brothers over sea trade.

Under the flag of St. Andrew

Statue of Apostle Andrew in the Lateran Cathedral in Rome

State flag of Scotland


The first official flag, which contained the image of St. Andrew's Cross, was the flag of the Kingdom of Scotland. This event was preceded by a beautiful legend, according to which in 832 King Angus II, who led the combined army of Scott and Picts, defeated the army of the Angles, which was led by King Ethelstan. According to legend, on the night before the battle, Angus II prayed to God for the gift of victory, vowing that in case of a favorable outcome of the battle he would declare the holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called the patron saint of all Scotland. When in the morning the clouds formed an oblique cross over the battlefield, on which Andrei the First-Called was crucified at one time, the Scottes and Picts were inspired, and the Angles, on the contrary, were seized by anxiety. The Angus army, inferior to the Angles in numbers, achieved victory that day, and the apostle Andrew was proclaimed the patron saint of Scotland.

At the same time, the symbolism in the form of the St. Andrew's Cross was not used in any way for a long time. The first example of the use of this image dates back to 1286, it was contained in the seal of the Scottish Guard. The first image of a flag with a cross dates back to 1503, then the cross was located on a red background. The background change first occurred later, at least in the middle of the XNUMXth century. Since then, the blue, rectangular cloth with a white slanting St. Andrew's cross has remained the historical, official and state symbol of Scotland. After the unification of England and Scotland, the famous Union Jack appeared, combining the Scottish Saint Andrew and the English Saint George.


Flag of scotland

St. Andrew's flag was also found on the military and merchant ships of the Kingdom of Poland, which was formed in 1815 following the results of the Vienna Congress and became part of the Russian Empire. The cloth was a classic St. Andrew’s flag, which was used in the Russian Navy, only with a red canton placed in the upper left corner, which depicted the coat of arms of Poland - a crowned silver eagle. In this form, the flag lasted until the Polish uprising of 1830-1831, after the suppression of which, like all other state flags of the Kingdom of Poland, was canceled.

The appearance of the St. Andrew flag in Russia


In Russia, the St. Andrew flag appeared thanks to Emperor Peter I. This happened in 1699. The young Russian Tsar paid great attention to the development of the fleet, and participated in the creation of flags. Peter I presented the first two projects just in 1699, one of them contained an image of the St. Andrew cross against the background of three horizontal stripes. The choice was not accidental; Andrew the First-Called was a revered saint in the country. It was believed that he managed to visit the lands of future Russia before he received martyrdom. Since the XI century, the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called was considered the heavenly patron of Russia.

Already on December 1, 1699, the new flag with the image of St. Andrew's Cross was proclaimed by the Tsar as official for the Russian fleet. The first St. Andrew’s flag, which occupied the entire flag, appeared a little later - in 1710-12, and in 1720 it was finally confirmed in the naval charter. When writing the charter, Emperor Peter I gave the flag the following description: “The flag is white, across which there is a blue St. Andrew’s Cross, with which he christened Russia.” In the form that has become traditional for the Russian fleet, the flag lasted until the October Revolution of 1917.


Outline flags made by Peter I in October 1699

It was restored as the official banner of the Russian Navy in 1992. An interesting fact is that from 1992 to 2000 the St. Petersburg fleet used the St. Andrew’s flag with a blue cross. The traditional and historical version with a blue Andreevsky cross on a white background in the Russian fleet was finally returned in 2001.

Andreevsky flag was lowered on Russian ships only twice


Volunteer Andreevsky flag on the ships of the Russian fleet only lowered two times in the history of its use. The first time this happened during one of the many Russian-Turkish wars, in this case - 1828-1829. On May 1, 1829, 2nd-rank captain Semyon Stroinikov lowered the flag on his frigate Rafail, not accepting a battle with the Turkish squadron, which consisted of 15 warships. He explained his decision by the desire to save the life of the frigate crew at the final stage of the war in battle, which could not affect its outcome.

Saving hundreds of the lives of officers and sailors, Stroynikov took the brunt of it. Emperor Nicholas I demoted Semyon Stroinikov to ordinary sailors, and also stripped the nobility. The very name of the frigate "Raphael" was covered in shame, the emperor ordered the ship to be burned when the opportunity presented itself. It was possible to fulfill this order after 24 years already during the Sinop battle. At the same time, the name "Raphael" was never used again as a name for the ships of the Russian fleet.

Stroinikov, who was also deprived of all his awards and titles, could no longer marry in order to “have no offspring of a coward and traitor in Russia”. The decision is rather strange, considering that by that time Stroinikov was already married, he already had two sons. Despite the case with his father, the sons of Stroinikov were able to freely obtain naval officer education, took part in the defense of Sevastopol during the Crimean War, and both reached the rear admirals by the end of their careers.


The painting, in which the captured "Admiral Apraksin" and "Admiral Senyavin" are introduced into the Japanese naval base in Sasebo

The second case of the descent of St. Andrew’s flags occurred during the most terrible tragedy of the Russian fleet - the Tsushima battle. At the end of the battle, Rear Admiral Nebogatov decided to surrender a detachment of ships headed by him, including the squadron battleships Orel and Emperor Nicholas I, as well as coastal defense battleships Admiral Senyavin and Admiral General Apraksin. In fairness, it is worth noting that the seriously battered Russian ships simply did not have any chance in a battle against superior Japanese forces the day before. Japanese forces were superior to Nebogatov’s detachment in speed and range of artillery, and Russian armadillos simply couldn’t reach the enemy, almost all artillery was knocked out on ships, and the shells were almost completely used up. Of the entire detachment, only the cruiser of the 2nd rank “Emerald” escaped, which, thanks to speed, managed to break through the ranks of the Japanese fleet and break away from the pursuit.

As Stroynikov had previously, Nebogatov explained his act by the desire to save thousands of lives, the sailors and officers entrusted to him. As in the 1906th century, the punishment was severe. The admiral was deprived of all ranks, after which they were put on trial, which already in 10 sentenced Nikolai Ivanovich Nebogatov to death, commuted to XNUMX years in a fortress. After serving a little more than two years in prison, the former admiral was released by Emperor Nicholas II due to poor health.

Proud Minesweeper Crew


After the October Revolution of 1917 in Russia, the small minesweeper Kitoboy and its crew went down in history, displaying exemplary courage. In 1920, the ship, commanded by Lieutenant Oscar Fersman, escaped from Estonia, fearing possible seizure by local authorities. Andreevsky flag was hoisted on the ship. The minesweeper team “Whalers” decided to go to the Wrangel troops in the Crimea, for this the ship had to go all over Europe. On February 27, the ship entered Copenhagen, where there was already a strong British squadron, the command of which ordered the Russian minesweeper to lower the flag, since Great Britain no longer recognized it. In Soviet Russia, the flag was canceled in November 1917.


Modern view of the naval flag of the Russian Federation

The minesweeper commander responded with a firm refusal to the British demand, announcing that he would fight, but would not lower the flag. At the same time, only two guns were installed on board a small ship. The emerging conflict was resolved only after the personal intervention of Empress Maria Feodorovna, who at that time was already in Copenhagen. With her direct help, the ship was stocked with coal and necessary foodstuffs and released from the port. In the end, the “Whalers” safely reached Sevastopol on their own, which later left, along with other warships of the Black Sea Fleet during the evacuation of Wrangel’s troops from the Crimea.
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  1. Ross xnumx 2 June 2020 06: 12 New
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    This story with the St. Andrew flag is instructive for high school students. For the adult generation, a more important issue is the purpose and the flushing of the flag itself. There are living examples (cases, situations) with flags of nationality from our history. A lot, starting from the St. Andrew's flag, and ending with the state flag of the USSR. Yes, I really do not remember cases when these flags (banners) were lowered in front of anyone.
    What I can not say about the modern state tricolor.
    1. Bar1 2 June 2020 09: 09 New
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      the manifestation of all maritime flags, that is, the flag that is placed at the stern, and the guis on the bow in the sprite of all the states of the universe. Gridorovan in Kiev in 1709.

      We see several nautical Russian flags and guis.
      We also see the sea flags of the state of Tartaria, a griffin and an owl on a gold background.



      http://www.vexillographia.ru/russia/images/kiev1709.jpg

      I also give an image of a Cossack ship, a view of a galleon. This image, like the first, does not fall into official history, because the OI has never given sea ships to Cossacks.

      1. Kronos 2 June 2020 12: 55 New
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        Let's hide the images of pesygolovets from the Middle Ages.
      2. Trilobite Master 2 June 2020 13: 07 New
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        Quote: Bar1
        We also see the sea flags of the state of Tartaria, a griffin and an owl on a gold background.

        And let's see. laughing
        Here they are, in the second row from the bottom, the second and third on the right. Hard to see?
        So, a little increase ...

        Tadam!
        It turns out “with the griffin” is the “Tatar caesar’s flag”, and “with the owl” is the “other Tatar flag” ...
        What will you do, Bar?
        Do you admit to trying to mislead colleagues deliberately or to your own dementia that prevents you from critically interpreting any nonsense? Choose! laughing
        1. Bar1 2 June 2020 13: 32 New
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          stupid is you, what are you tadamkayut there, kissed the wall?
          1. Trilobite Master 2 June 2020 14: 05 New
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            But what about the banner of the Cossack army - can you tell me in which year it appeared? laughing
            Do not be shy, demonstrate erudition and knowledge of the material ... Who, when he invented this banner, approved by whom and how it was used ...
            I can do it myself for you, but it hurts to want to hear your version first ... laughing
            1. Bar1 2 June 2020 14: 08 New
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              you can’t do anything, you can only drool ...
              1. Trilobite Master 2 June 2020 14: 31 New
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                Well then you show a class. Affirm, so to speak, your intellectual superiority ... And let everyone see what an outstanding researcher and thinker you are, admire and imbue with the truth of your teaching. I'm not against. laughing
                1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 June 2020 19: 26 New
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                  Oh and I missed it !!!
                  Michael, my respect !!! repeat
                  1. Trilobite Master 2 June 2020 20: 53 New
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                    Thank you, Vlad. smile hi
                    It’s a pity it all ended quickly, I just really started to have fun ... laughing
          2. Astra wild 2 June 2020 20: 58 New
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            Colleague Bar, actually poking is still an argument
      3. Astra wild 2 June 2020 20: 54 New
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        Colleague Bar, you are already tired of Tartaria
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 June 2020 21: 14 New
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          My regards! Bar1, recently passed. With spears, he doesn’t throw himself at windmills, he doesn’t drown galleons at the North Pole, he doesn’t evict Tatars from Tartaria !!! To be honest, Timur's arguments ran out, sadly. You need to relax Baru1, gain strength. Nasonov’s book to give him.
          Oh felts used to be time! I looked at the branch Oparyshev p-to. We all cut with him, not for life, but to die! Either Cossacks run with their mouse on boats, horses run away to America, and liars, scribes and Germans are entertainers under which gate were lined with damn dozens !!! Oh how many there were !!! So Timur should be cherished, cherished, kept on a special diet, so that it would please us with something! However, it is necessary to engage in intellectual pumping of the heresy of our precious vis-a-vis, and then, as I noted above, there will not be enough arguments, Timur becomes predictable, predictable !!!
          Regards, Vlad!
          1. Bar1 2 June 2020 21: 25 New
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            I have enough arguments ...
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 2 June 2020 21: 50 New
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              Quote: Bar1
              I have enough arguments ...

              My respect and "+"! hi
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        3. Bar1 2 June 2020 21: 23 New
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          Quote: Astra wild
          Colleague Bar, you are already tired of Tartaria

          do not read ...
    2. tihonmarine 3 June 2020 07: 48 New
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      What I can not say about the modern state tricolor.

      Under the Russian cross flag and the motto maybe, the Russian fleet will not disgrace its country, as it was at all times.
  2. Crowe 2 June 2020 06: 26 New
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    The minesweeper commander responded with a firm refusal to the British demand, announcing that he would fight, but would not lower the flag.

    Here is an example of true courage and heroism. God and St. Andrew’s flag are with us! Thanks for the article!
    1. not main 2 June 2020 22: 24 New
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      Quote: Crowe
      The minesweeper commander responded with a firm refusal to the British demand, announcing that he would fight, but would not lower the flag.

      Here is an example of true courage and heroism. God and St. Andrew’s flag are with us! Thanks for the article!

      Yes! But do not remember the brig "Mercury" ... it seems to me not professionally!
      1. Crowe 2 June 2020 22: 57 New
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        Just as you can’t remember the glorious Varyag ...
        1. not main 2 June 2020 23: 33 New
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          Quote: Crowe
          Just as you can’t remember the glorious Varyag ...

          "Varangian" is our symbol of dignity, pride and determination to accept the battle with a repeatedly superior enemy! I gave an example of the “Mercury” brig because almost in a similar situation he came out victorious!
          1. tihonmarine 3 June 2020 08: 20 New
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            I gave an example of the “Mercury” brig because almost in a similar situation he came out victorious!

            You can add here the feat of the "Guardian" - a monument to the heroic death in the battle of the Russo-Japanese war of the destroyer "Guardian", installed in St. Petersburg ..
            1. not main 3 June 2020 21: 05 New
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              I agree completely!
  3. Avior 2 June 2020 06: 30 New
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    similar article Polonsky 2 years ago
    https://topwar.ru/150018-ego-spuskali-tolko-dvazhdy-istorija-andreevskogo-flaga.html
  4. Poor article. So much has been said about the general history of the formation of the flag and the minimum of its military service.
  5. Gardamir 2 June 2020 07: 43 New
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    ROA and St. Andrew's flag.
    1. Viktor Sergeev 2 June 2020 08: 31 New
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      You will be surprised, but the use of great moisture scum did not make the flag scary. By the way, the Vlasovites did not use the Andreevsky flag, but its blue breed.
      1. bober1982 2 June 2020 09: 22 New
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        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        You will be surprised, but the use of the great flag scum

        The French SS division Charlemagne fought under the national tricolor, including the use of three-color sleeve chevrons.
        The pilots of the Normandy-Niemen also fought under their French flag.
        And, as you rightly noted, the flag from this did not become scary, I mean, of course, the use of the national flag and symbols by the French Nazis.
      2. Gardamir 2 June 2020 09: 26 New
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        You will be surprised, but before the Nazis came to power, the swastika was honorable everywhere. Now banned in Europe, but still held in high esteem in the East.
        When the Union banned the symbols of Nazism, then no one thought that supporters of Kolchak, Mannerheim, Krasnov would come to power in Russia ...
        1. Viktor Sergeev 2 June 2020 12: 33 New
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          You will be surprised, but no one in the 20th century practically knew the swastika, except for adherents of some societies and religions. The swastika was neither a flag nor an official sign of the states. Yes, after Hitler used the swastika it was actually banned, due to a clear association. But the Nuremberg trials and the atrocities that perpetrated under the swastika, too terrible associations affected here.
          Supporters of Kolchak, Mannerheim and Krasnov did not come to power in Russia. These are individual, narrow-minded people who are trying to build themselves as “conciliators”; everyone is reconciled with whom it is unknown.
    2. Dym71 2 June 2020 09: 24 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      ROA and St. Andrew's flag.

      Gardamir and stubborn dill.
    3. AU Ivanov. 2 June 2020 09: 30 New
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      And homosexuals appropriated a rainbow for themselves. What now spit in the sky, looking at a beautiful natural phenomenon?
      1. Gardamir 2 June 2020 10: 47 New
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        I am happy with the rainbow. But my father fought under the Red Banner, for the liberation of the city of Zaporozhye was awarded the Red Star. I lived in the Soviet Union, served in the Soviet Army. In my life there were no tricolors, flags with crosses. It’s just crossing out the history of the country.
        1. AU Ivanov. 2 June 2020 11: 40 New
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          The St. Andrew’s flag is not the deletion of history, this is the glorious history of the Russian Navy.
          1. Looking for 2 June 2020 16: 01 New
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            the history of the Russian fleet is a history of glorious victories. interspersed with shameful defeats.
        2. Looking for 2 June 2020 16: 04 New
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          I will say more is a deliberate "erasure" of our memory. Our rights. And freedoms. This is a mockery of the memory of our fathers. And mothers.
        3. Ryazan87 3 June 2020 10: 41 New
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          What is striking out? In Russia, the Soviet awards were officially canceled or the events of the Second World War, personally the merits of your parent, are denied? Maybe your service in the Soviet army?
          Here she is, tired of this nagging already.
  6. Viktor Sergeev 2 June 2020 08: 26 New
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    Rurik also had no chance to survive, but he went under water fighting to the last, trying to go to ram. The ship can go to the bottom, it can be captured, but only the traitor can voluntarily lower the flag.
  7. KVU-NSVD 2 June 2020 09: 11 New
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    Volunteer Andreevsky flag on the ships of the Russian fleet only lowered two times in the history of its use.
    Surrender of the ship is a shame .. So it’s a marine custom. But I was always interested in the question - did Rafail’s crew or the rest of the crews of Nebogatov’s ships condemn for the surrender of their commanders? Shame on shame, but after all, the life of many of them was saved by the commanders.
    1. Olgovich 2 June 2020 10: 50 New
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      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Surrender of the ship is a shame .. So it’s a marine custom. But I was always interested in the question - did Rafail’s crew or the rest of the crews of Nebogatov’s ships condemn for the surrender of their commanders? Shame on shame, but after all, the life of many of them was saved by the commanders.

      While there is the slightest opportunity to carry out the order and for resistance, the military unit must fight, even at the cost of death, this is the meaning of its existence.

      If all the means have been exhausted, then there is no sense in the death of people.

      Their lives must be saved - they need their country.

      The question is in determining that thin line between "exhausted" and "not yet exhausted" ......

      The commander of "Raphael" was clearly not exhausted, for which he was deservedly punished.

      as for the team, the commander took upon himself the shame. they only complied with the order.
      1. KVU-NSVD 2 June 2020 10: 58 New
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        Andrei, all that you have expressed, I understand and support. I am interested in the existence of specific judgments from concrete participants in the change - they stigmatized them after the captivity of their commanders or justified them, or prudently kept silent.
        1. Olgovich 2 June 2020 11: 15 New
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          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          I am interested in the existence of specific judgments from concrete participants in the change - they stigmatized them after the captivity of their commanders or justified them, or prudently kept silent.

          I think the third.

          What can I say?
    2. Ryazan87 2 June 2020 11: 17 New
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      For the sake of curiosity, take an interest in how many lower ranks of the Rafail crew survived in Turkish captivity and returned back. Thanks to the "humanism" of the cowardly bastard Stroinikov. Nicholas I, of course, was very kind. About "severe punishment" Nebogatov is completely ridiculous. It was necessary to hang it publicly, depriving the ranks, orders and nobility. And all the commanders who lowered the flag - too. Just upon the fact of this act.
      1. KVU-NSVD 2 June 2020 11: 41 New
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        Quote: Ryazanets87
        For the sake of curiosity, take an interest in how many lower ranks of the Rafail crew survived in Turkish captivity and returned back.

        Well, do you have an answer to this question? Then can share?
        1. Ryazan87 2 June 2020 11: 52 New
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          70 out of 200 returned. By the way, Stroynikov then shut himself off at the trial, blamed everything on the senior officer (who somehow strangely died before the court), on the sailors .. The villain did not help. By the way, the emperor was not too lazy to personally indicate: “Lieutenant Brown, midshipman Verdeman, doctor Dorogonevsky, skipper assistant Tsygankov and all lower ranks - forgive. "And then initially the talk was almost about decimation.
          1. Astra wild 2 June 2020 21: 21 New
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            "blamed everything on the senior officer": he scared me, he’s a byaka, and I’m a sheep.
            And this is called "took all the blame."
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        Raphael was always opposed by brig Mercury.
    3. fuxila 2 June 2020 16: 55 New
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      But I was always interested in the question - did Rafail’s crew or the rest of the crews of Nebogatov’s ships condemn for the surrender of their commanders? Shame on shame, but after all, the life of many of them was saved by the commanders.

      Novikov-Priboy in his novel "Tsushima" describes the feelings that gripped the officers and sailors after the order of Nebogatov to hand over the ships. As always, they were the most controversial: some rejoiced that everything was over and they survived, others were violently indignant, others were simply suppressed by what happened ...
      1. KVU-NSVD 2 June 2020 17: 01 New
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        Novikov - Surf describes a lot of things, but not always correctly.
        1. Astra wild 2 June 2020 21: 37 New
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          Put yourself in the place of Novikov-Surf when he wrote to Tsushima
  8. Hunter 2 2 June 2020 09: 22 New
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    During the Tsushima Battle, from the Cruiser Aurora - Six Times, with fragments of shells, Andreevsky Flag was shot down !!! Under the fire of the enemy, the Russian Sailors - each time set Him in Place! The commander of Aurora, Evgeny Romanovich Egoriev, was one of the first to die, having been mortally wounded in the head! The cruiser relatively safely got out of the Battle - Andreevsky Flag without releasing!
    Here's a story about the Cruiser of the Revolution!
  9. Undecim 2 June 2020 11: 22 New
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    It’s time to start a new section on the site such as “On Wikipedia Pages”. Moreover, copyright, like today's article, contains all the errors that Wikipedia abounds in.
    When in the morning the clouds formed an oblique cross over the battlefield, on which Andrei the First-Called was crucified at one time, the Scottes and Picts were inspired, and the Angles, on the contrary, were seized by anxiety. The Angus army, inferior to the Angles in numbers, achieved victory that day, and the apostle Andrew was proclaimed the patron saint of Scotland.
    The patron saint of Scotland, the Apostle Andrew was proclaimed in 1320, when Scotland gained independence.
    At the same time, the symbolism in the form of the St. Andrew's Cross was not used in any way for a long time.
    The oblique cross is one of the oldest heraldic symbols that was used long before it appeared on the flag of Scotland. It appeared on the flag of Burgundy a hundred years earlier, and on the coat of arms of the counts of Etingen back in the XNUMXth century.
    Volunteer Andreevsky flag on the ships of the Russian fleet only lowered two times in the history of its use
    And the frigate "Hector" and the frigate "Yaroslavets"?
  10. Ryazan87 2 June 2020 11: 31 New
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    Volunteer Andreevsky flag on the ships of the Russian fleet only lowered two times in the history of its use.

    This is not true. Must
    There was a rather ridiculous story with the surrender of the frigate "Mitau" in 1734 (however, Defremery was then able to fully rehabilitate).
    The frigates Yaroslavets and Hector surrendered to the Swedes without a fight in 1788.
    The battleship Maria Magdalene, damaged by a storm, surrendered to the Turks in 1787.
    Finally, an entire squadron of Admiral Senyavin lowered the flag in front of the British in Lisbon in 1808. There, of course, there was a cunning convention, but the fact of surrender is clear.
    1. Astra wild 2 June 2020 21: 45 New
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      Colleagues: Viktor Nikolaevich and Ryazanets, if you can, then tell us more about these episodes. Not everyone is as educated as you.
      I was considered an excellent student in history, but on the site I learned so much new and still learn
      1. Ryazan87 2 June 2020 22: 09 New
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        Willingly:
        The frigate "Mitau" was bound during the war for the Polish inheritance (Russian troops besieged Danzig, occupied by supporters of the French, and earlier the Swedish protege Stanislav Leshchinsky). “Mitau” met the French squadron and could not leave, the French have always been excellent walkers. There wasn’t any official war with France, the frigate captain Peter Defremery tried to enter into negotiations, but nothing good came of it. Captured with the crew and the ship. For the company, by the way, with Khariton Laptev (the Laptev Sea is just about him). Then the prisoners were exchanged, Defremery was tried and sentenced to death in a rush, but had mercy. Later, during the Russo-Turkish war of 1735-39, he became famous for blowing himself up and his ship, preventing its capture by the Turks. The second time I decided not to cheat ...
        “Yaroslavets” and “Hector” were caught by the Swedish fleet at the beginning of the Russian-Swedish war of 1788-90, still not knowing that the war had already begun. The captains hung their ears and put them on their pants - as a result, they lowered the flag without a fight. Frigate "Mstislavets" was able to leave, because initially no Swedes went to drift to comply with any requirements.
        “Mary Magdalene” was not very lucky, the ship fell into a severe storm (Ushakov didn’t go to visit Neptune there), lost all its masts and, unfortunately, was taken straight to the Bosphorus. In justification, we can say that the ship as a full-fledged combat unit could no longer be considered.
        But about the Senyavin squadron it is necessary to write a large article, a too long and complicated story. And more political than military. As, however, the entire Russian-English war of 1807-12.
        1. Astra wild 7 June 2020 13: 15 New
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          Thank you
    2. pacific 23 June 2020 00: 28 New
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      an entire squadron of Admiral Senyavin lowered the flag in front of the British in Lisbon in 1808. There, of course, there was a cunning convention, but the fact of surrender is clear.

      The Senyavin squadron did not lower the flag in front of the British. The squadron was interned at the port of Lisbon.
      There is a big difference between the descent of the flag, as the act of surrendering the ship to the enemy and the descent of the flag due to internment in a neutral port. In the latter case, this is evidence that the ship is disarmed and not "in the campaign." At the same time, the ship does not lose the jurisdiction of its state.
      Senyavin was just interning his squadron. And the British later had to redeem from the Russian government the order of dilapidated ships during the internment.
      However, I am sure that you know this story Nikita.
      1. Ryazan87 23 June 2020 00: 48 New
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        Actually, he emphasized that this story is complicated.
        The Senyavin squadron did not lower the flag in front of the British.

        The problem is that from October 26 [November 7] 1807, the Russian Empire was officially at war with Great Britain, and Senyavin’s squadron came to Lisbon on October 28, 1807. Yes, and Lisbon could not be considered a neutral port, since at that time the appearance of the Russian squadron was occupied by the French, and at the time of signing the convention - by the British. And then the Russian ships were already in Portsmouth.
        I will quote Alexander I, who refused the “Senyavintsy” prize money: “When and the most the squadron of ships, which acquired these prizes, was finally left to them in enemy hands, then you can’t assume for her the prize set for the prizes. ”
        Of course, this was not a classic surrender for a number of reasons, the main one being that the British did not want to strengthen the Franco-Russian alliance at all.
        1. pacific 23 June 2020 00: 58 New
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          I agree that the story of the Senyavin squadron is confusing and probably has no analogues in world history.
          Yes, the Russian ships in Lisbon were actually left in the hands of the British. But the Russian flag was not lowered before the British (as an act of surrendering ships to the enemy).
          And the fact that Britain was later forced to buy ships from the Russian government only confirms the fact that there was no surrender, but the squadron was interned in a formally neutral port.
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    There were many kinds of flags.

    Here are Russian flags, and not what the Poles published in Kiev about Russia in 1709.
    In addition to the oblique, there is a straight (vertical) cross.
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      BAI colleague, where does this page come from? I would like to know more
  12. demo 2 June 2020 13: 37 New
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    This event was preceded by a beautiful legend, according to which in 832 King Angus II, who led the combined army of Scott and Picts, defeated the army of the Angles, which was led by King Ethelstan. According to legend, on the night before the battle, Angus II prayed to God for the gift of victory, vowing that in case of a favorable outcome of the battle he would declare the holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called the patron saint of all Scotland.

    I’m curious about this.
    How great self-conceit (i.e. pride - mortal sin) has a servant of God!
    Like, I will do you a favor and appoint Patron of Scotland.
    Neither asked to become, but appointed.
    Those. consumer relation to God - give, offer and free?
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    However, almost immediately after the shameful surrender of Rafail, another Russian ship, the Mercury brig, in front of the entire Turkish squadron, did not lower the flag in front of the two Turkish battleships, accepted the battle, and emerged victorious, although the brig had a chance to survive - minus infinity! But the decision, if the battle is to lose, to mate with the nearest Turk and blow up the kruyt-camera was supported by all the officers and crew of the brig. "Mercury" forever entered the pantheon of glory of the Russian fleet!
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      Well, Rafail is mentioned. That means he entered the pantheon of "glory" of the Russian fleet.
      1. nnz226 2 June 2020 20: 52 New
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        They mention everything that was in the history of the state. Just two shameful episodes happened: “you won’t erase a word from a song ...” But! I think about the brig Mercury knows at least 50-60% of the country's population, and about Rafail only lovers of the history of the fleet, professional historians, but readers of this article ...
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    I am deeply indifferent to the ANDREY FLAG. I recognize only the naval flag of the USSR. This return as well as the return of the tricolor was made so that the people would soon forget those times. When he was the OWNER of his country.
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      Quote: Seeker
      I am deeply indifferent to the ANDREY FLAG

      The new government got rid of heroic symbolism.
  15. Astra wild 2 June 2020 22: 06 New
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    “it was possible to fulfill this order 24 years later”, let's call a spade a spade: a categorical order of Nicholas1. I met such information that, on the orders of Nakhimov, they didn’t burn Rafail, but another similar ship: it already rotted and the Turks built a new one according to those drawings