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Nuclear submarine cruiser of project 955A "Prince Vladimir" transferred to the fleet

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Nuclear submarine cruiser of project 955A "Prince Vladimir" transferred to the fleet

Strategic Nuclear Submarine Missile Cruiser Project 955A (code "Borey-A") "Prince Vladimir" became part of the Naval fleet RF This was reported by the press service of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC).


Lasting from the end of last year, the epic with the tests of APKSN "Prince Vladimir" is finally over, the submarine is handed over to the customer - the Russian Navy. According to the press service of the USC, the acceptance certificate of the submarine was signed today, May 28, at Sevmash. The document was signed by the chairman of the State Acceptance Commission for the ships of the High Command of the Navy, Alexey Poteshkin, General Director of Sevmash Mikhail Budnichenko, General Designer of the Central Design Bureau MT Rubin Sergey Sukhanov and commander of the submarine Vladislav Druzhin.

The construction of the Prince Vladimir nuclear submarine is proof that we continue to develop the best shipbuilding traditions (...) This ship is a new word in the line of strategic missile carriers. "Prince Vladimir" has more advanced characteristics. Ahead is the ceremony of raising the St. Andrew’s flag on the ship and transferring it to the Navy

- said the general director of Sevmash.

The Ministry of Defense reported on the end of the tests of the underwater missile carrier on May 22. It was also reported that the signing of the acceptance certificate of "Prince Vladimir" is scheduled for May 25, and the commissioning of the submarine is expected in mid-June.

Strategic nuclear project "Prince Vladimir" of the modified 955A Borey-A project was laid down at Sevmash in Severodvinsk on 30 on July 2012 of the year, and the conclusion from the workshop took place on November 17 of 2017 of the year. The Borey-A project is distinguished by less noise, more advanced systems of maneuvering and retention at depth, as well as control weapons.

To date, the 955th fleet of the Russian fleet is powered by three 4th-generation project 955 (Borey) nuclear missile submarines - the strategic missile cruisers Yuri Dolgoruky, Alexander Nevsky and Vladimir Monomakh. In addition, four more serial ARPKSNs of this project 27A are under construction at the Sevmash - Prince Oleg (officially laid down on July 2014, 26), Generalissimus Suvorov (laid down on December 2014, 18), and Emperor Alexander III (laid down on December 2015, 23 years) and "Prince Pozharsky" (laid down December 2016, XNUMX).
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 May 2020 18: 13 New
    -52
    Interestingly, and in honor of the current supreme what ship (class) will be called?
    1. seti
      seti 28 May 2020 18: 16 New
      12
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Interestingly, and in honor of the current supreme what ship (class) will be called?

      And what’s wrong is quite possible and completely acceptable.
      1. Normal
        Normal 29 May 2020 08: 30 New
        +1
        They will call the "Leader of the Redskins". They will kill two birds with one stone.
        PS: humor is so-so, obviously not your hobby.
    2. GMM
      GMM 28 May 2020 18: 19 New
      -53
      Definitely something unique and unparalleled in the world. Arctic swimming zone, multi-trip ship for transporting tomatoes and gas.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 28 May 2020 18: 35 New
        -29
        mmg battleship, with guns in the hold! !! lol
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 28 May 2020 18: 33 New
      -32
      Nazarii hi in his honor they will call a tug with screws in a circle around the tug body, capable of sailing in any direction immediately lol !!!
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 28 May 2020 18: 38 New
        -23
        And judging by my minuses, they will not be called!)))
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 28 May 2020 18: 44 New
          -26
          Nazarii hi today will not be called lol , because it is not known what, what, and, most importantly, when will they be built! yes
      2. kenig1
        kenig1 28 May 2020 19: 05 New
        -13
        He said that at one time the rowing was like a slave on a galley.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 28 May 2020 19: 23 New
          -20
          Kenig1-You propose to build a personalized galley, with "Zircons" on board ???? lol
        2. Charik
          Charik 28 May 2020 21: 17 New
          -13
          Galley for moving between our world and paradise
    4. Valter1364
      Valter1364 28 May 2020 19: 39 New
      -16
      What class is not yet clear, but what will be the whole series, GDP-I, GDP-II, GDP-III, etc. and a hedgehog is understandable. By the number of doubles. Rather, arctic vertical take-off rigs.
      1. Sasha Minakov
        Sasha Minakov 28 May 2020 23: 57 New
        -3
        I almost fell off the chair. Scream. Where so trained to joke?)
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 29 May 2020 09: 33 New
          -6
          How can you fall on a couch from a chair ?! !!
          1. Charik
            Charik 29 May 2020 22: 52 New
            -1
            maybe he is lying on a chair on a sofa laughing
        2. Charik
          Charik 29 May 2020 22: 39 New
          -1
          It is necessary to fasten
    5. sergo1914
      sergo1914 28 May 2020 20: 12 New
      17
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Interestingly, and in honor of the current supreme what ship (class) will be called?


      In honor of yours? Can Ukrainians build a fleet? Well, in the sense of not from boards and branches.
    6. Charik
      Charik 28 May 2020 21: 10 New
      -7
      yacht by VICTORY (treasure island) laughing
    7. VohaAhov
      VohaAhov 28 May 2020 22: 27 New
      +3
      Interestingly, and in honor of the current supreme what ship (class) will be called?
      Space Intergalactic Cruiser
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 29 May 2020 01: 45 New
        11
        Where did you get so many feces in skull boxes? Foreign? Or singed alcohol?
    8. Mastrer
      Mastrer 29 May 2020 02: 43 New
      +4
      One hundred percent negative figures (like Gorbachev / Yeltsin) in Russian history, count on the fingers. And Putin does not apply to them. So, it is possible that they will call it.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 29 May 2020 03: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Mastrer
        One hundred percent negative figures (like Gorbachev / Yeltsin) in Russian history, count on the fingers. And Putin does not apply to them.
        Putin doesn’t belong, I agree, but for some reason he also erects memorial centers for Yeltsin.
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    9. The comment was deleted.
    10. +5
      +5 29 May 2020 09: 12 New
      -3
      Well, we are not Americans, we don’t call ships the living former presidents .... and in this lineup the closest of the 19th century .... so maybe some Starster or Death Star ...
    11. Far East
      Far East 29 May 2020 10: 25 New
      -4
      probably COMMIT. wassat hi
  2. seti
    seti 28 May 2020 18: 14 New
    31
    Seven feet under the keel and let the number of dives equal the number of ascent.
  3. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 28 May 2020 18: 16 New
    25
    So that the number of dives is equal to the number of ascent and good luck to the crew!
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 29 May 2020 01: 50 New
      +2
      ... and successful return to base after a full salvo.
  4. Olgovich
    Olgovich 28 May 2020 18: 20 New
    33
    The construction of the Knyaz Vladimir nuclear submarine is proof that we continue to develop the best shipbuilding traditions (...) This ship is a new word in the line of strategic missile carriers. "Prince Vladimir" has more advanced characteristics. Ahead is the ceremony of raising the Andreevsky flag on the ship and transferring it to the Navy

    What an amazingly beautiful, long-awaited ship!

    With his input Russia has become stronger, which means the world has become stronger yes
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 28 May 2020 18: 25 New
      27
      I agree completely!
      1. Charik
        Charik 28 May 2020 21: 28 New
        -20
        the cutting base is flattened-similar to Virginie’s, a Western-type water-jet — well, as the GDP-tsap-scratch used to say, an interesting lateral sonar is for passive detection of the enemy — what kind of sausages does Boreya2 have in physics-cases? TA?
        1. Charik
          Charik 29 May 2020 22: 50 New
          -1
          At least someone wrote that I said wrong
      2. Charik
        Charik 29 May 2020 22: 47 New
        -1
        - the cowl fairing of the Virgin - it’s as if they were scratched and the water-jet probably too
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 29 May 2020 03: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: Olgovich
      With its introduction, Russia has become stronger, which means that the world has become stronger

      And what is Russophobe Olgych so happy ostentatious?
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 28 May 2020 18: 22 New
    19
    at last . I hope with the following ships of the improved design there will be less problems during testing and delivery.
  6. Break through
    Break through 28 May 2020 18: 30 New
    +6
    Cool. We are strengthening.
  7. senima56
    senima56 28 May 2020 18: 31 New
    12
    Finally, wait! drinks Happy sailing! good
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 30 May 2020 14: 42 New
      -2
      Yes, the first new nuclear submarine in 5 years was transferred to the fleet ... Even under Yeltsin, they built more ....
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty 28 May 2020 18: 36 New
    -2
    That is, Borey A, this is not just a modification of Borey, but is it essentially a completely different submarine? ??
  9. Grits
    Grits 28 May 2020 18: 44 New
    11
    "Borey-A" is distinguished by less noise, more advanced maneuvering and holding systems at depth
    At one time, I was just engaged in maneuvering and retention systems at depth. As well as a supply system at a depth of no-turn on strategists (BDRM). Honestly, I can’t understand what can be improved in this regard? The systems created back in the 80s kept this colossus at a depth of no turn in the corridor no more than plus or minus half a meter. And less is not necessary.
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 28 May 2020 20: 29 New
      +5
      Honestly, I can’t understand what can be improved in this respect? .... I understand that they improved the shaft damping system, I personally don’t know, but I guess I switched to a system without a booming GTZ, nevertheless pumping cooling systems the second loop of the reactor is unlikely that something has changed, and they whistle
      1. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik 31 May 2020 23: 22 New
        0
        but I guess I switched to a system without a booming GTZA


        And how then is the rotation transmitted from a high-speed steam turbine to a low-speed propulsion (screw)?
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 28 May 2020 20: 33 New
      12
      Quote: Gritsa
      Honestly, I can’t understand what can be improved in this regard?

      Well, I won't say anything about the stabilization system at depth, but even pictures have been drawn about the distinctive features of the Aza:






      If 667 used to grow their "humps", then in 955 they lick humps, improving hydrodynamics ... Again, the washers on the aft stabilizers, all-wheel steering, device No. 1 at the SAC from the sphere became horseshoe-shaped and the onboard conformal antennas intensified ... Again, the influx OVU became "American".
      And apparently, the CBU system finally settled on board ...
      But.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 28 May 2020 21: 44 New
        +5
        If before 667 raised their "humps" ..... yeah. the dolphin BDRM has an impressive hump, well, if on three nodes, then everything is not so bad. but Boreas is certainly better. I'm just tormented by the question. two-meter ice will turn out or not. deadfins twisted
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 28 May 2020 22: 21 New
          +9
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          two-meter ice will turn out or not.

          It seems to be able to overcome up to 1,8 m. But, I think, the commander will not take risks: there is an echo-meter, he will help find wormwood or young ice. so everything is in the hands of the cap. If they receive an order to use the main weapon in the shortest possible time, they will use torpedoes and emerge in a crumb.
          Something like this.
          1. Vol4ara
            Vol4ara 28 May 2020 22: 35 New
            0
            Quote: BoA KAA
            Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
            two-meter ice will turn out or not.

            It seems to be able to overcome up to 1,8 m. But, I think, the commander will not take risks: there is an echo-meter, he will help find wormwood or young ice. so everything is in the hands of the cap. If they receive an order to use the main weapon in the shortest possible time, they will use torpedoes and emerge in a crumb.
            Something like this.

            And how will they get it under water without surfacing? Always asked this question
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 28 May 2020 22: 55 New
              +5
              Quote: Vol4ara
              And how will they get it under water without surfacing?

              Also on Azukh there was a "Paravan" - a buoy antenna allowing to receive control center and satellite navigation at depths of up to 50 m. In the Baltic, the SLBM of pr. 629A received BU signals while on the ground, only by opening the float hangar doors. So the question is worked out and is not a problem ...
              1. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 30 May 2020 00: 28 New
                -1
                Quote: BoA KAA
                Quote: Vol4ara
                And how will they get it under water without surfacing?

                Also on Azukh there was a "Paravan" - a buoy antenna allowing to receive control center and satellite navigation at depths of up to 50 m. In the Baltic, the SLBM of pr. 629A received BU signals while on the ground, only by opening the float hangar doors. So the question is worked out and is not a problem ...

                So you are under the ice, the antenna will not break the ice
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 30 May 2020 10: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  So you are under the ice, the antenna will not break the ice

                  Why break through the ice? Ice is the state of aggregation of water ... There is and has always been a threat to cut off the "plane" about ice hummocks. Therefore, they try to "glaze" the produced part on the stabilizer.
            2. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 29 May 2020 05: 17 New
              +1
              And how will they get it under water without surfacing? I always asked this question ........ well, there are no problems here. An extended towed antenna for receiving frequencies in the meter range easily catches a signal. the only thing that would not be under a thermocline which is in the region of 150-200 meters, well, in this position there is a beacon
            3. Podvodnik
              Podvodnik 29 May 2020 11: 38 New
              +1
              And how will they get it under water without surfacing?


              SSBNs receive combat control signals under water. Transmitted at "low frequencies" (for general understanding). They penetrate water to an acceptable depth. The submarine uses antennas of a special design for this.
              In ordinary life, they do not use television radio.
        2. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 29 May 2020 11: 34 New
          +2
          two-meter ice will turn out or not. dolphins inverted


          Will turn out. By tradition, the buoyancy reserve is large. The force of pressure on the ice, in contrast to the Americans, is greater. Look at the photo, "sits high."
          1. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 29 May 2020 21: 10 New
            0
            The force of pressure on the ice, in contrast to the Americans, is greater. Look at the photo, "sits high" ....... well, the 667s are all double-hulled, because the strength leaves no doubt. and the architecture of the Boreevs is not known to me. maybe according to amerscheme. just a single-hull barrel, recently in winter some kind of amerskaya nuclear submarine was stuck, it was fun
      2. Grits
        Grits 29 May 2020 07: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Again, the influx of OVU has become "American".

        Regarding the appearance of this influx, I will express my thoughts.
        In the 90s, I happened to work and visit the tests of one boat, converted from a BDR or BDRM. The factory called it "Axon". So it was a huge real testing laboratory to test the operation of many systems that are now on Borei and Ash. And there was such a beveled back cabin (OVU) on it. The fact is that an additional device was installed in its upper part. Most likely something radio technical. It was a kind of "pancake" with a diameter of about one and a half meters. Which protruded from the total "brow", rising slightly upward. So this bevel turned out, which migrated to the first Boreas. In the future, apparently, they realized that it was necessary to create a more streamlined shape of the cabin on the principle of the Americans and it was stupidly smoothed out. In fact, the front of the wheelhouse simply increased, moving forward a little.
        There was still a lot of interesting things ...
      3. Grits
        Grits 29 May 2020 08: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Again the washers on the feed stabilizers, all-wheel steering wheels,

        I am not special in hydrodynamics, and I don’t understand why all-turning steering wheels are better than steering feathers on old projects? And looking at them, I can’t understand - where did they put the exit point of the towed HAC cable? Previously, he was above the top of the feather of the vertical rudder, now I do not observe him.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 29 May 2020 16: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Gritsa
          Why are all-turning steering wheels better than steering pens on older projects?
          They have a larger area (working under free flow), so the boat tosses and turns faster. Secondly, rudder (steering gear) ballers can withstand a greater load than flaps. and the design is simpler (fewer parts). A similar picture among flyers on the Su-57.
          Quote: Gritsa
          where did you put the exit point of the towed HAC cable? Previously, he was above the top of the feather of the vertical rudder, now I do not observe him.
          GPBA "left the vertical tail and hid in the washer of the stern horizontal rudders." Probably in the same place (from the other side) the VLF receiving antenna is hidden. About the VLF antenna - my assumptions.
          1. Grits
            Grits 30 May 2020 02: 30 New
            0
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            GPBA "left the vertical tail and hid in the washer of the stern horizontal rudders"

            You are right, indeed, I found a close photo of the RAG and the exits are really visible there.
    3. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 29 May 2020 11: 30 New
      0
      what can be improved in this regard?


      If only to reduce the noise of the pump pumping water overboard while keeping the depth without running.
      But, it seems to me, the author of the article meant "just holding" the boat at a given depth on the move.
      1. Grits
        Grits 30 May 2020 02: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Podvodnik
        If only to reduce the noise of the pump pumping water overboard while keeping the depth without running.

        In principle, it is possible. Only the pump does not make much noise there. there are no such large volumes of pumping. And the crane during opening without a stroke only slightly opens or covers the movement of water.
        But for the rudders to work, powerful NPP pumps (variable displacement pump) are really needed to drive hydraulics. And for every pair of rudders. They make noise quite seriously.
        1. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 31 May 2020 23: 17 New
          0
          But for the rudders to work, powerful NPP pumps (variable displacement pump) are really needed to drive hydraulics. And for every pair of rudders. They make noise quite seriously.


          Not familiar with this decision. I saw the PHA (pneumatic hydroaccumulator) in operation. This is a "barrel" with a membrane, as in the water supply system in the country (for general understanding, of course). On the one hand, hydraulics, on the other, air of the appropriate pressure. The screw pump fills the hydraulics until the "limit switch" is triggered and stops. Consumers are working, the pump is at a standstill. As the hydraulics flow, the diaphragm changes position, after the "lower level" is triggered, the pump turns on again and so "in a circle". If the flow is low, the pumps are rarely turned on. I have never seen variable displacement pumps, I cannot imagine the logic of their work.
          1. Grits
            Grits 2 June 2020 09: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Podvodnik
            I have never seen variable displacement pumps, I cannot imagine the logic of their work.

            I saw them. In size no more than a 200-liter barrel. But I don’t know the principle of work. Although, it is possible to operate rudders from SSG (marine hydraulics) with disabled pumps NPP. But this is not the normal mode of operation of the rudders, but emergency or in complete silence.
  10. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 28 May 2020 18: 46 New
    +9
    Does anyone still doubt the power of modern Russia ??? Well kah, croon something fans of American-Sino-Israeli world greatness !!!!
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 28 May 2020 18: 57 New
      +6
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      Well kah, croon something fans of American-Sino-Israeli world greatness !!!!

      Kgggg! - the raven croaked. smile
    2. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 28 May 2020 19: 16 New
      0
      Loud- power .. such a word is direct for the galactic empire .. but there is no doubt in the strength of the RF Armed Forces, they are really one of the strongest on the planet ..
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      Does anyone still doubt the power of modern Russia ???

      but in the power of the economy of modern Russia, I doubt it somehow .. and believe me, unfortunately ..
      In general, the news is really good .. Finally .. A cruiser of the 1st rank underwater in the ranks is really happy ..
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 28 May 2020 19: 20 New
        -1
        Power is the ability to act; potential ◆ The ability of which thing to act is called power, and the active power of which thing is called its power; for example, a bow pulled by a bowstring, when they are not acted upon, has power, and when it shoots an arrow out of it, it will be its strength. Ya. P. Kozelsky, “Philosophical proposals composed by the court adviser and governing senate by the secretary Jacob Kozelsky in St. Petersburg in 1768”, 1768
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 28 May 2020 19: 22 New
          0
          You are right, Vitaly, I just mean that it sounds more correct "Someone else doubts the power Russian Armed Forces modern Russia ??? "Probably, I find fault with the words .. The costs of the profession hi
  11. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 28 May 2020 18: 47 New
    +7
    Hurray, another strategist !!!
  12. reader65
    reader65 28 May 2020 19: 13 New
    -8
    On the presence of critical shortcomings and the inadmissibility of the RF Ministry of Defense (Navy) adoption of the Knyaz Vladimir SSBN ...



    Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation
    Army General Sergei Shoigu Kuzhugetovich
    from cap. 3 ranks in stock
    Klimov Maxim Alexandrovich

    On the presence of critical technical and constructive shortcomings of SSBNs of project 955, 955A and the inadmissibility of the adoption by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (Navy) of the lead ship of project 955A "Prince Vladimir" (order number 204) without conducting the necessary tests and eliminating the shortcomings

    According to media reports, the main SSBN of project 955A "Prince Vladimir" is at the final exit of the State tests, supposedly on 25.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX. it is planned to sign the State Testing Act and raise the naval flag.
    Based on the official materials of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation from the Army 2015 forum:
    • Project 955A has a new complex of torpedo weapons (with a decrease in the number of torpedo tubes);
    • to solve the problems of anti-torpedo protection (PTZ), the “Modul-D” and “Lasta” complexes were installed.
    Moreover, we have:
    1. There is clearly an insufficient volume of tests of the torpedo complex, which is confirmed by the relevant documents of the US Navy for conducting similar tests of weapon systems with data on damage to torpedoes (the Navy was presented to IM Taran, KMPO Gidropribor and SPBM Malakhit) . Considering a fundamentally different torpedo complex and a new torpedo (“Fizik-1”, since the project 955 had only obsolete USET-80), the following (minimal!) List of only “valid” tests of “Physicists” with 204 orders was suggested:
    • firing all torpedo tubes at maximum firing speed without remote control;
    • firing all torpedo tubes at maximum firing speed with remote control;
    • in combination with firing at various targets, single and salvo (including telecontrol) in the conditions of hydroacoustic counteraction (GPA), registration and measurement of the noise of shots and torpedoes (including narrow-band).
    2. Complex "Module-D". Rear Admiral Lutsky AN, “Marine collection” No. 7, 2010 about the “Module-D” complex: “It is proposed to equip the submarines of the Yasen and Borey projects with PTZ systems, technical specifications for the development of which were made back in the 80s of the last century, the results of studies of the effectiveness of these tools against modern torpedoes indicate exclusively low probability of not defeating the evading submarine. ”
    All objective experts agree with this assessment. The Modul-D complex is not just outdated, three generations of torpedo weapons have changed since the formation of its ideology, and today it’s simply not necessary to talk about its “effectiveness”!
    In August 2013 personally reported on it to the responsible officers of the Navy: V.A. Tryapichnikov, V.V. Chirkov, V.A. Yachmenev. In 2015 I completed and handed over to the head of the service of the MPO Navy I.M. Taran and the Civil Code for armament of the SPBM "Malachite" V.N. Nikolaev an analysis of the problems (and ways to solve them) of the Module-D complex.
    Note: in spite of the “TEST completion” (based on the materials of the arbitration courts) of the Modul-D complex products, it is safe to say that not a single one of them was used against modern types of torpedoes, all were exclusively against long-obsolete torpedoes (about the inadmissibility of which was reported to the respective Navy officials as early as August 2013). The ROC "Module-D" was "completed" in fact due to notorious forgeries with tests, conducting them in obviously simplified conditions and against old types of torpedoes.
    3. The most critical is the “Lasta”. Given the extremely low “efficiency” (in quotation marks) of the Module-D complex, the adoption of Prince Vladimir SSBN without the Lasta anti-torpedo is unacceptable.
    All the terms for the creation of this complex of JSC “GNPP“ Region ”were disrupted, the equipment of order 160 (AICR“ Severodvinsk ”), which was criminally accepted by the Navy as virtually defenseless from enemy torpedoes, was disrupted.
    The real causes of our problems with anti-torpedoes on submarines (and ways to solve them) I have repeatedly reported to Navy officials. The main thing is ... This drawback calls into question the combat effectiveness of all new ships and is systemic, because ...
    Specifically, according to "Prince Vladimir," to uncover this problem, .... All responsible persons and specialists know about this, and intensively cover this critical problem of our shipbuilding. The problem has solutions, but for this to take place, it is necessary to fully open it up and realize it, and only this will make it possible to develop and implement effective measures to solve the problem (without which we can’t talk about the high combat effectiveness of our submarine forces (including the strategic nuclear forces) accounted for).
    Due to the different design of projects 885 (M) and 955 (A), the tests of the “Lasta” complex on one of them, taking into account ...., cannot be set off for another project. "Lasta" is required to pass tests including on project 955 (A)!

    Conclusion: the reception of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (Navy) of the Princely Vladimir SSBN without carrying out these tests, there are obviously poor-quality military products that are unable to effectively solve their mission, respectively - is unacceptable.
    At a minimum, tests of the Modul-D complex against modern types of torpedoes (Physicist-1 or Package) should be carried out to reveal the real problems of the Modul-D complex and a hard way to solve the problem, and real tests complex anti-torpedo "Last" ... with the actual defeat of the attacking torpedo.

    The question arises - on what basis did the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Evmenov, while still being the Commander of the Northern Fleet, declare his readiness to "accept" Prince Vladimir as early as 2019. "? - in fact, thereby deliberately and deliberately misinforming the leadership of the Ministry of Defense about the real situation with the submarine forces of the Navy and hiding their critical problems.
    The published photographs of the ancient, long-obsolete USET-80 torpedoes at the newest project 955 (and the inability of the "latest" Navy SSBN project to use the new Physics) is an exhaustive confirmation of this.

    18.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX Yours faithfully,
    cap 3 ranks in reserve Klimov M.A.

    The letter did not reach the addressee ....
    And if it came to that, then the enemies of the Russian people settled on the very top of the power vertical.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 28 May 2020 19: 27 New
      -4
      That is, in fact, the ship of yesterday was built, with obsolete torpedo weapons? ??
    2. zwlad
      zwlad 28 May 2020 19: 36 New
      +4
      Of course, I’ve never once been a submariner, but I doubt that the lack of the latest torpedoes and torpedoes on this submarine will not allow her to fulfill her main task, namely to give a farewell salvo for humanity.
      And as for the new complexes, they will gradually tighten it, the reserve for modernization is probably laid.
      1. Arthur 85
        Arthur 85 29 May 2020 15: 00 New
        +2
        Well, yes, if the SSBN entered a torpedo battle, then the task failed.
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 28 May 2020 19: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: reader65
      from cap. 3 ranks in stock
      Klimov Maxim Alexandrovich

      laughing laughing laughing
    4. Vitaly Tsymbal
      Vitaly Tsymbal 28 May 2020 19: 56 New
      +5
      What's this??? I, the reserve captain (tracker) who retired in 1995, will write to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief that BSL -110 is outdated and does not meet the requirements of a modern soldier, because you can already accept BSL of the latest development ????
      It really hurts everyone who knows the naval major wrote a letter, probably a constant commentator with VO)))) Yes, and the dates somehow do not agree !!!! Well, the last
      18.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX Yours faithfully,
      cap 3 ranks in reserve Klimov M.A.

      The letter did not reach the addressee ....
      And if it came to that, then the enemies of the Russian people settled on the very top of the power vertical.

      The answer must be given within 15 days, and today only 10 have passed !!!! So, sorry, this is a fake ...
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 29 May 2020 12: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
        What's this??? I, the reserve captain (tracker) who retired in 1995, will write to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief that BSL -110 is outdated and does not meet the requirements of a modern soldier, because you can already accept BSL of the latest development ????

        This is not BSL.
        It would be as if the "Contact-1" would be hung on the "Armata" as a remote sensing device, they would have tested the protection on the "Malyutki" and RPG-2 - and reported that the newest tank was equipped with the latest and having no analogues in the world protection systems that fully protect it from modern and promising ammunition. sad
    5. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 28 May 2020 20: 03 New
      +7
      the inadmissibility of the RF Defense Ministry (Navy) SSBN "Prince Vladimir" ....... Gena, let's start with the simplest, the RF Navy does not have such a classification of strategic submarines as SSBNs. The Russian Navy has only Strategic Nuclear Missile Submarine Cruisers, the abbreviation ARPKSN is in the first place
      about the second ARPKSN there is no need to arrange underwater dueling, it can shoot off the wall (if this term is familiar to you). Well, a video video can reach a hidden frontier without entering the range of enemy anti-submarine forces, because the old countermeasures are enough, and let the physicists chase Huskies and other Shyuki-B
      and even as having been in the military service of the USSR Navy, I’ll say that Captry is no higher than warhead at ARPKSN and warheads at ARPKSN are strictly isolated, ... you probably didn’t know Gena, and maybe you’re using a Baltimore thread
      1. reader65
        reader65 28 May 2020 20: 44 New
        -6
        I just cited a blog entry by M. Klimov for objectivity. Not everything is so rosy with the latest submarine.
        You can read more:
        https://mina030.livejournal.com/20459.html
        https://mina030.livejournal.com/12048.html
        https://mina030.livejournal.com/19061.html
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 28 May 2020 21: 01 New
          +5
          I just cited a blog entry by M. Klimov for objectivity ...... read. but I still didn’t understand with what fright the kaptri did not have a distinct specialization to play Kozhugetycha.
      2. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik 29 May 2020 11: 49 New
        +2
        kaptri holds a position no higher than warhead


        This is not entirely true.
        If the officer matches, he will be appointed. Cap 3 can easily be a senior mate (SPK). In our crew, the SPK was a drop. This did not bother him at all. There is such a concept "position". If the post of KBCH-7, for example, is a cap of rank 3, then he will not receive a rank higher than cap 3. The position of a mechanic (KBCH-5), for example, a cap of rank 2. Therefore, he will not become a cap of 1 rank (only in exceptional cases).
        Cap 3 rank can be quite as a master of military affairs and complete .... The same applies to any cap of rank 1.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 29 May 2020 21: 27 New
          +3
          If the officer matches, he will be appointed. Cap 3 can easily be a start-up ... but not in the case of an underwater strategist, my acquaintance is now deceased (blessed memory of him). Kaperaz was the commander of the BS-5 on Kalmar. it was in his charge that the function was to provide preparation for the launch of the main caliber (R-29) and the command was issued, you won’t believe the drops from the secret which were pants assigned to warhead-1 post 1 or 4 ches I don’t remember. but in the course of pos number of times. here are the things, and of which you cited as an example it is not clear who. on this many questions to him
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 29 May 2020 12: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        about the second ARKSN there is no need to arrange underwater duel

        In theory. In practice, now salvation of drowning - the work of the drowning.
        Who can cover the SSBN in the coming years? How many combat-ready submarines do we have at the same Pacific Fleet?
        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
        he can shoot from the wall (if this term is familiar to you).

        If you have time. Otherwise, an adversary with three or four combat units will endure 40% of our strategic forces.
        If laid on firing from the wall. it’s better not to spend money on chamomile with the SSBN (if they succeed, they won’t), but to order PGRK instead. At least they do not need to be based 25 km from the border. smile
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 29 May 2020 21: 39 New
          0
          Who can cover the SSBN in the coming years? ..... well, basically project 671. partly project 971 and partly titans project 945. well, on the cabotage of a diesel engine.
          If you have time. Otherwise, an adversary with three or four combat units will endure 40% ......... it is doubtful, then why the hell do you need over-the-horizon radars and satellite constellation !!!! the adversary knows about it, otherwise they would have already erased us into powder
    6. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 28 May 2020 20: 26 New
      +3
      It’s better to invite Anal to experts.)))
      1. Charik
        Charik 29 May 2020 22: 38 New
        0
        Yes, together with Zakharovay, let the discussion lead about nuclear submarines
    7. ser56
      ser56 28 May 2020 21: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: reader65
      And if it came to that, then the enemies of the Russian people settled on the very top of the power vertical.

      a letter with a smell - it smells of a denunciation ... especially with the publication on the site ... repeat
      1. reader65
        reader65 29 May 2020 01: 02 New
        -1
        Well then, I recommend reading about the thief with big stars

        https://mina030.livejournal.com/2019/05/21/
        1. ser56
          ser56 29 May 2020 12: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: reader65
          Well then, I recommend reading about the thief with big stars

          you write to the prosecutor bully
          1. reader65
            reader65 29 May 2020 14: 33 New
            -1
            So Klimov wrote in the Main Exhibition Center and only after that work on the "case" began. (before that there was a real sabotage fraud).
            1. ser56
              ser56 29 May 2020 14: 43 New
              0
              Quote: reader65
              So Klimov wrote in the Main Exhibition Center and only after that work on the "case" began. (before that there was a real sabotage fraud).

              do you see? request
  13. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 28 May 2020 19: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: reader65
    1. There is clearly an insufficient volume of tests of the torpedo complex, which is confirmed by the relevant documents of the US Navy for conducting similar tests of weapon systems, with data on damage to torpedoes

    that’s how it is .. But why should we focus on the US Navy .. whatever they want, let them experience it ... Any new weapon has shortcomings and will be .. In addition, the SSBN’s main goal is torpedoes in the process .. And then if everything is brought to the ideal, we will wait 30 years for submarines on the database
    1. reader65
      reader65 28 May 2020 19: 31 New
      -7
      Given that the database passes at the pier, then torpedoes are not needed at all. On tomogavki them something to shoot ...
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 28 May 2020 20: 46 New
        0
        Read carefully, I do not say they are not needed, I say that because of this the change should not be canceled at the SSBN
    2. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 29 May 2020 11: 52 New
      +2
      But why do we need to focus on the US fleet


      Recently, the story went: a foreign submarine fired about two dozen torpedoes for training purposes. That's what you need to focus on.
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 29 May 2020 12: 03 New
        +1
        Yes, it’s not bad and very bad .. But .. I’m talking about exactly this - about the standards for submarine delivery to the fleet .. Why say that we need to strive for Amer? Are they better a priori? And to hand over to the fleet a head sample and everything is perfectly straightforward ... does this happen at all?
        1. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 29 May 2020 12: 15 New
          +2
          And to hand over to the fleet a head sample and everything is perfectly straightforward ... does this happen at all?

          There are many difficulties with the headache. Many new systems. It is possible to make a mistake in the calculations, but rigging tests and intruding on knowingly non-working systems is a crime. If the BIUS has a training mode, it should work as it should (for example). Because there is a difference between the performance characteristics of a training and combat torpedo. But if, after trying to shoot in this mode, "dancing with a tambourine" begins, then the perpetrators must be identified and brought to justice. And the word "head project" cannot be an excuse. Everything should be tested, shot, listened to, on / off.

          I'm talking about just that - about the standards for submarine delivery to the fleet


          This should not be done for "red" dates. As M.N. Zadornov: "Apples cannot ripen in June." Everything must be done on time. And you need to look after foreigners and learn from their positive experience.
    3. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 29 May 2020 12: 04 New
      +2
      at the SSBN the main torpedo missiles can be brought in the process ..


      Such things will lead to the disruption of the combat / training mission. Several times I felt the gaze of the division commander on my back, a couple of times I listened to a "special" opinion about my abilities as a specialist. Either the TA cover does not open, then the ammunition cannot be prepared, then .... And the KUG (educational group) leaves. There were several cases on different ships.
      Then the flagship specialist came up for "debriefing", I explained to him what was the matter and why. I heard the answer: "You are right, damn it ..., but here's how to" convey it to "him?

      And at the end of the service he was a member of the State Commission for Reception. Well, I wrote my dissenting opinion. AND WHAT? and NO CHO !!

      Although he is cap 3 (about the letter addressed to MO), he is absolutely right. The DP must be absolutely ready to perform the assigned tasks. CIUS should be normally interfaced with all systems, torpedoes should exit the vehicles at the declared maximum speed and not break at the same time. And all anti-torpedoes should be anti-torpedoes, not ballast. And then you go out on the attack, solve the problem, in the end you press "or" and it "doesn't".
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 29 May 2020 12: 15 New
        0
        And you can’t argue with you .. But in this case, put the rest of the finished boat at the pier until the torpedoes bring, is it better? (given that its main purpose is not torpedo shooting) .. You know, like, the gunner should not be allowed into the gun due to the fact that he didn’t pass the standard with the gun ..
        1. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 29 May 2020 12: 22 New
          +2
          But in this case, put the rest of the finished boat at the pier until the torpedoes bring, is it better?


          The crew must have confidence in their ship. He performs a combat mission. And if in the sea it suddenly turns out that when working out the "rudder spell for immersion" the SAC is de-energized, this is a "small flaw"? Or suddenly one line of BIUS is not capable of shooting anything at all? How does the operator guess? He needs to shoot back from the adversary, but he doesn't have to.
  14. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 28 May 2020 21: 25 New
    +1
    Great news! We are waiting for "Prince Oleg" this year))
  15. Amateur modeller
    Amateur modeller 28 May 2020 23: 41 New
    +1
    Hooray! At last! I hope that the rest of the series will be part of the fleet on time.
  16. Essex62
    Essex62 29 May 2020 07: 12 New
    0
    Great news! Another suffocating finger on the throats of masons. Add to them the mind and Peace of the world.
  17. gland
    gland 29 May 2020 14: 37 New
    +1
    FINALLY, Hurray !!!!
  18. Arthur 85
    Arthur 85 29 May 2020 14: 56 New
    +1
    Hooray, comrades! I just sat down for a drink. Well, seven feet under the keel, so that the number of dives equals the number of ascent.