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In China, the US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft over the Taiwan Strait provoked outrage

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In China, the fact of the appearance of an American tanker aircraft over the Taiwan Strait aroused indignation. This is a strait, the eastern shore of which is the island of Taiwan, and the western - the PRC, which considers Taiwan an integral part of China.


It became known that the KC-135 air tanker was above the waters of the Taiwan Strait in order to refuel the Boeing RC-135 strategic aerial reconnaissance aircraft. According to the latest data, RC-135 carried out reconnaissance in the aforementioned strait, as well as in the waters of the South China Sea, observing the actions of the Chinese naval ships fleet.

The Chinese reaction was not long in coming. It is noted that "instead of focusing on combating epidemics, Washington is still engaged in provocations thousands of kilometers from its borders." It is added that the time for aerial reconnaissance at the Chinese borders is becoming longer and longer, and therefore the United States has already decided to use the option of refueling air reconnaissance.



The outrage of China is primarily due to the fact that Beijing considers the Taiwan Strait to be actually the internal reservoir of the PRC, since, as has already been said, the island of Taiwan belongs to the territory of the PRC.

It is worth noting that the emergence of funds aviation The United States in the Taiwan Strait, apparently, is part of the same American program, under which the other day, American aircraft flew in the airspace between the Kuril Islands, heading for the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.

In China, the appearance of US Air Force planes over the waters of the Taiwan Strait was called an attempt to impose its hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region.

From which specific base an American tanker was flying, was not reported.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 28 May 2020 07: 57 New
    +2
    Things went, the Yankees began to push China no longer childish .... or are they going to push?
    1. Naemnik
      Naemnik 28 May 2020 08: 20 New
      -3
      Quote: rocket757
      Things went, the Yankees began to push China no longer childish .... or are they going to push?

      For now, they are afraid, but everything can be .. So when the claims go to the "international courts" on the crown, then everything will begin ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 May 2020 08: 31 New
        +9
        As if it had already begun ... the Yankees recognize Tibet as a state, and this is not just flying and refueling, this is a sickle on the entom itself. The Uyghurs can recognize Hong Kong and so on. Daddies in the State Department are ready! It can become "fun" for many people.
        1. Naemnik
          Naemnik 28 May 2020 08: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          As if it had already begun ... the Yankees recognize Tibet as a state, and this is not just flying and refueling, this is a sickle on the entom itself. The Uyghurs can recognize Hong Kong and so on. Daddies in the State Department are ready! It can become "fun" for many people.

          Well, all this has been going on for a long time .. That's only China has laid its dragon tail on them and is not blowing in its mustache.
          Worse, if China and India bleed, then there will be a world mess ..
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 May 2020 08: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: Naemnik
            there will be a world mess

            This is exactly what I do not want to wait for!
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 28 May 2020 09: 48 New
              +5
              Quote: rocket757
              This is exactly what I do not want to wait for!

              Americans do everything for this.

              I don’t understand this:
              the other day, American aircraft flew in the airspace between the Kuril Islands, heading for Sea of ​​Okhotsk.


              The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the INLAND Sea of ​​Russia. HOW can there fly ... Americans ?!

              Where are the MoE, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, coercion, forwarding? Silence .... request

              But this is direct aggression ...
              1. Naemnik
                Naemnik 28 May 2020 10: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: Olgovich
                The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the INLAND Sea of ​​Russia. HOW can there fly ... Americans ?!

                It has recently become one, but we are chasing Japanese, Korean, and Chinese poachers .. But until the Amers until our hands reach .. Everything has its time!
                1. boss
                  boss 28 May 2020 11: 47 New
                  -2
                  How did it "become recently"?
                  Hands do not reach ...
                  Kaliningrad has also recently become.
                  Crimea.
                  But something there Americans do not refuel and do not fly.
                  The border issue cannot be raised "long ago or recently."
                  Disgusting fact and disgusting inaction of border guards, aviation, air defense and navy.
              2. rocket757
                rocket757 28 May 2020 10: 10 New
                +4
                Quote: Olgovich
                Sea of ​​Okhotsk - INLAND Sea of ​​Russia

                This issue has already been discussed with one persistent debater. Just advised him to read the fundamental documents ....
                But here I had to once again carefully read the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and "discover" that Article 78 of this Covenant "says" the following:

                "1. The rights of the coastal state to the continental shelf do not affect the legal status of the overlying waters and airspace over these waters.

                2. The exercise of the rights of the coastal state with respect to the continental shelf must not infringe upon the exercise of navigation and other rights and freedoms of other states provided for in this Convention, or lead to any unjustified interference with their exercise. "

                EVERYTHING, this is the end of the argument.
                1. boss
                  boss 28 May 2020 11: 51 New
                  -1
                  Tracking and intercepting air targets approaching borders, normal practice in the Black and Baltic Seas.
                  Highlighting air defense from ships even more so.
                  It is not the dispute that needs to be ended or won, but the border controlled.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 28 May 2020 12: 16 New
                    0
                    Quote: patron
                    It is not the dispute that needs to be ended or won, but the border controlled.

                    Keyword BORDER, i.e. confirmed by establishing documents, laws, a line that no one can cross, without special permission, etc.
                    1. boss
                      boss 28 May 2020 12: 30 New
                      -1
                      And intercept, accompany and highlight by all means, so that it does not shine like a garland ?!
                      Not ok?
                      Not necessary?
                      You state your fabrications in the Baltic and Crimea so that our servicemen and not only know that they are doing wrong and have your alternative opinion.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 May 2020 12: 43 New
                        0
                        Why are you so ... not an alternative?
                        Write a report on the team, they probably don’t know what to do there ....
                    2. neri73-r
                      neri73-r 28 May 2020 14: 01 New
                      +3
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ray word BORDER, i.e. confirmed by establishing documents, laws, a line that no one can cross, without special permission, etc.

                      You're right! The border on the sea-okiyan is 12 miles, then the exclusive economic space, shelf, etc., which have no relation to the border. The narrower strait of Taiwan is 130 km, that is, in the middle, with the exception of left and right 12 miles from the coastline (also a separate concept), there is an international space on water and in the air, unless otherwise specified by an international treaty. hi
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 May 2020 14: 20 New
                        0
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        there is an international space on water and in the air, unless otherwise specified by an international treaty.

                        Oh ho ho ho! Now is the time when some have arrogated to themselves the right to all sorts of international rules, treaties, laws, to squirm as they want! They are kept from being totally extreme by the option of getting on the "horns", it is concrete and painful.
                        dangerous time, judging by the mind ... it is better to slip it without extreme. It will be better for everyone. It should be settled and this.
                2. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 28 May 2020 11: 56 New
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  EVERYTHING, this is the end of the argument.

                  Russian Kuril Islands do not close the sea from the East?

                  And here's another: 2014: Ministry of Natural Resources of the Russian Federation:
                  UN Sub-Commission Recognizes Enclave Area 52 thousand square kilometers in the middle of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, part of the Russian continental shelf,


                  Russian President
                  .

                  "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Natural Resources, the Ministry of Economic Development, the Ministry of Defense, and the Federal Security Service of Russia should present their proposals on the measures necessary forthe formation of the external border of the Russian Federation of the continental shelf in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and prepare documents on the sovereign rights of Russia, taking into account the recommendations of the Commission for the borders of the continental shelf.


                  Officially from March 15, 2014 year, an area of ​​52 thousand square kilometers in the central part of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, towhich was still considered international waters, transferred to Russia. This right secured the United Nations for Russia. Tthus, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk became completely the inland sea of ​​Russia
                  1. forest1
                    forest1 28 May 2020 12: 03 New
                    +3
                    Do not confuse the shelf with the territory of the state. These are all different concepts. There are territorial waters and air space, there are borders of the exclusive economic zone, and there are borders of the shelf. These are all different concepts. On the shelf, it is prohibited for other states to conduct work on the bottom. Drilling without permission, catching bottom organisms (crabs, mollusks) and that’s all. You can swim and fly there quite calmly and without permission. On the shelf, even fishing is not prohibited (unlike the exclusive economic zone)
                  2. rocket757
                    rocket757 28 May 2020 12: 13 New
                    +1
                    The dispute is pointless. In fact, the Foreign Ministry did not say anything, did not show concern, which means there are no LEGAL REASONS for that.
                    do not revel sho Russia is not the USSR and something there can not. maybe a lot.
                    By the way, it depends on us how further events will develop.
                    We make our choice consciously.
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 28 May 2020 13: 08 New
                      -1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      The dispute is pointless. In fact, the Foreign Ministry did not say anything, did not show concern, which means there are no LEGAL REASONS for that.

                      This is strange in any case: where in the Kuril Islands is that international O-space through which they leaked? And they fit there?

                      Even so, everything is on the verge, it is dangerous and it is already a provocation. IMHO.

                      And, at least, it deserves concern.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 May 2020 13: 12 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Even so, everything is on the verge, it is dangerous and it is already a provocation. IMHO.

                        This is a provocation, no doubt. But there is no real danger ...
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        And, at least, it deserves concern.

                        The giraffe in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense is probably big, he should decide in this case.
                        All the specific guys understand that when the time comes, the time comes, these "birds" will not even reach there ...
                3. Mitroha
                  Mitroha 28 May 2020 17: 04 New
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  UN Convention on the Law of the Sea

                  I will not put my salary, but what has the law of the sea to do with it? Here we are talking about the sovereignty of the airspace, which is regulated by the "Agreement on Two Freedoms", but there the passage (even transit) must be agreed with the state in whose
                  in / space will be "invasion"
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 28 May 2020 18: 37 New
                    +1
                    The question can / should be addressed to someone who is really in the subject.
                    They didn’t raise the butch, so there is no reason ... at my assumption.
              3. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 28 May 2020 12: 03 New
                -6
                Quote: Olgovich

                Where are the MoE, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, coercion, forwarding? Silence ....

                So this is not the USSR Ministry of Defense or the USSR Ministry of Foreign Affairs. You need to understand. Country of effective managers.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 28 May 2020 12: 19 New
                  0
                  In the USSR, the ESTABLISHED BORDERS were guarded, and in no other way.
              4. Free wind
                Free wind 28 May 2020 15: 02 New
                -1
                There is also a free sky agreement. Twice a month they can fly over our country wherever they want. Only route should report.
        2. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 28 May 2020 10: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Uighurs can recognize Hong Kong and other things. Daddy in the State Department is ready!

          That's for sure ! Wicks are scattered around the world and periodically set on fire from different ends. And they themselves at this time consider the profits from the sale of weapons to all parties concerned!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 May 2020 10: 44 New
            +1
            The sale of weapons is a profitable business, one of the pillars of the Yankees economy, but biting / provoking China, the whales are straining their most important competitor ... this is obvious.
            we always look at whom it is beneficial, in a given situation ... most often, everything becomes obvious, like twice two.
    2. knn54
      knn54 28 May 2020 08: 29 New
      +2
      - called an attempt to impose their hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region.
      IF ONLY IN THIS REGION.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 May 2020 08: 34 New
        +1
        Wherever they want, there they try to crush ... nothing new, in general.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 28 May 2020 10: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Wherever they want, there they try to crush ... nothing new, in general.

          There is a version (I think it is logical) that the United States is flooding the economy with dollars all over the world to buy up technologies and real production with them, so that in the event of a dollar collapse, it would be in "chocolate". And who is against ... it means "you have no democracy, and catch democratic bombs ... am "and the change of government ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 28 May 2020 10: 35 New
            +2
            The Yankees said they would crush everyone with their technological advantage ... where and how they find it, this is an interesting question.
            Power is strong, no doubt, BUT .... but here there are many, many questions.
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 28 May 2020 07: 58 New
    +9
    Well, what to say, if it was over neutral waters, then why not apply "dangerous maneuvering" with disruption of refueling? As in the excellent film "Case Squared 36-80".
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 28 May 2020 08: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Well, what to say, if it was over neutral waters,

      A simple question - does China recognize this as "neutral waters"?
      The issue is controversial and the Yankees only add gasoline to the fire ... it could even burn, here, there, all this is not very fun.
      1. forest1
        forest1 28 May 2020 08: 33 New
        0
        The minimum width of the strait is 130 km. How not to recognize him. Just ignore all maritime law
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 28 May 2020 08: 37 New
          +1
          China considers Taiwan its territory ... from here everything rolls. Where to go is not clear.
          1. forest1
            forest1 28 May 2020 08: 38 New
            +2
            Well, even if Taiwan becomes the Chinese Channel, it will still be international. And not only the strait, but also its waters further 12 miles from the coast and airspace
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 28 May 2020 08: 49 New
              0
              This is on whose card to see! There is such a tangle of ambitions and claims that it is not clear how this will end ...
              I do not consider the legal, international aspects of this issue, everything is complicated there, just look at the reaction of the parties .... contradictions.
              I don’t take anyone’s side, because I want Schaub the world was always and everywhere ... provocations do not contribute to this, on any side.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 28 May 2020 08: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      with refueling failure

      And through the hose - Chick!
      1. Naemnik
        Naemnik 28 May 2020 10: 05 New
        -2
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        with refueling failure

        And through the hose - Chick!

        Someday they’ll surely tick! ..! But it is better to do this together with Russia (military-economic-political union, etc.) And alone it is dangerous. As well as Russia, and China ..
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 28 May 2020 10: 03 New
      +4
      Vladimir, there was a thing.

      Unfortunately, I didn’t find the second video on YouTube. Only on OK ... repeat
      https://ok.ru/video/1486286686842
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 28 May 2020 10: 13 New
        +2
        Thanks, just a great movie!
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 May 2020 08: 07 New
    +3
    Send something powerful to the refueling point, and spin around, disrupting the refueling process. If you think that this strait is yours, and the sky above it is yours, then act accordingly. It is not necessary to shoot down, but to "accompany" is plump - why not? tongue
    1. boss
      boss 28 May 2020 11: 54 New
      0
      That's right, and along the Sea of ​​Okhotsk it is simply necessary to "escort plump".
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 May 2020 08: 18 New
    0
    China is hammering mericatos for refueling aircraft. And according to our goals in the Kaliningrad region, in the Kuril region, possible attacks were practiced and nothing - silence. request
  5. My_log_in
    My_log_in 28 May 2020 08: 48 New
    +1
    All excited only China. One I noticed a proposal about the Kuril Islands and the Sea of ​​Okhotsk? So will we wipe ourselves off?
  6. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 28 May 2020 09: 06 New
    0
    USA provokes ... and then they will complain ...
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 May 2020 09: 30 New
    +1
    You can’t help with indignation, here more anti-aircraft missiles are needed.
  8. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 28 May 2020 09: 43 New
    0
    The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the inland sea of ​​Russia, there are no neutral waters there. Pin. Do.sov kicked out by you, I hope?
    1. boss
      boss 28 May 2020 11: 55 New
      -1
      Hope.
      Even interception and escort, and not that there was no expulsion (
  9. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 May 2020 10: 01 New
    0
    "Karona, Karona" and the Yankees catch fish under this noise in troubled waters.
  10. Old26
    Old26 28 May 2020 15: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Olgovich
    The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the INLAND Sea of ​​Russia. HOW can there fly ... Americans ?!

    Where are the MoE, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, coercion, forwarding? Silent .... request

    But this is direct aggression ...

    Silently. According to all international norms and rules

    Quote: Naemnik
    Quote: Olgovich
    The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the INLAND Sea of ​​Russia. HOW can there fly ... Americans ?!

    It has recently become one, but we are chasing Japanese, Korean, and Chinese poachers .. But until the Amers until our hands reach .. Everything has its time!

    There will be no time. Learn materiel, dear. The Inland Sea is not in this case a synonym for territorial waters.

    Quote: rocket757
    This issue has already been discussed with one persistent debater. Just advised him to read the fundamental documents ....

    good

    Quote: patron
    Tracking and intercepting air targets approaching borders, normal practice in the Black and Baltic Seas.
    Highlighting air defense from ships even more so.
    It is not the dispute that needs to be ended or won, but the border controlled.

    And the border was not violated. And in the case of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and in the case of the Taiwan Strait. What China thinks is its problem. Taiwan and China are the same as North and South Korea. The people seem to be the same, but the countries are different. And Taiwan (Republic of China) is an independent country. Yes, once it may have been a rebellious province in China. But then he could not capture her. And now - any attempt to capture Taiwan is a big war, because for Taiwan the United States will "fit" ...

    Quote: patron
    Disgusting fact and disgusting inaction of border guards, aviation, air defense and navy.

    Before resenting and expressing your "feu" to the border guards, aviation, navy and air defense, maybe you should still first learn the laws, and not accuse everyone in a row of almost treason ??
    Or do you act on the principle that your opinion is wrong?

    Quote: patron
    And intercept, accompany and highlight by all means, so that it does not shine like a garland ?!
    Not ok?
    Not necessary?

    Are you sure this was not? That the radar did not track this flight? And maybe the fighters that accompanied them were raised?

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Send something powerful to the refueling point, and spin around, disrupting the refueling process. If you think that this strait is yours, and the sky above it is yours, then act accordingly. It is not necessary to shoot down, but to "accompany" is plump - why not? tongue

    Refueling could take place over the territorial waters of Taiwan, that is, in their waters. Sending Chinese aircraft there would then lead to a violation of Taiwan’s border

    Quote: Olgovich
    This is strange in any case: where in the Kuril Islands is that international O-space through which they leaked? And they fit there?

    At least three straits.
    • The strait between the islands of Chirpoy and Simushir is 62,5 km, of which only 44,5 km are the tervodes of Russia and 18 are neutral
    • The strait between the islands of Reykoke and Skala Lovushka is 50 km, of which only 44,5 km are Russian tervodes and 5,5 are neutral
    • The strait between the islands of Shiashkotan and Paramushir is 55 km, of which only 44,5 km are the tervodes of Russia and 10,5 are neutral

    Quote: ButchCassidy
    The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the inland sea of ​​Russia, there are no neutral waters there. Pin. Do.sov kicked out by you, I hope?

    To learn the materiel, a connoisseur, in order to know the difference between the inland sea, the sea cords, the shelf and others ... !!!!