FOM President: how Putin will enter history books

The newspaper Izvestia published an interview with the president of the Public Opinion Foundation (Public Opinion Foundation) Alexander Oslon. The interview touched on numerous issues, including one that related to the time in power of Vladimir Putin. Alexander Oslon also spoke about the most popular politicians of our time.

According to him, the most popular politicians among citizens of the Russian Federation (in addition to President Vladimir Putin) are LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky, current cabinet chairman Mikhail Mishustin, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

Alexander Oslon, characterizing the main "parameters" of the "Putin era", notes that they depend on a specific period of time. According to the president of the FOM, if we talk about the zero years (2000s), then this is a remission, if it’s about the 10s (2010s), then this is a defense capability.

Oslon believes that this is what will go into the textbooks stories in the paragraph on the time during which the country is led by Vladimir Putin. And also in the textbook “they will reflect the victory over the coronavirus”. There, according to the head of the POF, the theme of reunification with Crimea and the revival of the concept of “we” will be included.

It was such a question (about what will go into this paragraph) that was asked by the journalist "Izvestia").

With some theses, Alexander Oslon is already arguing on the net. In particular, doubts are expressed that the civil “we” against the background of what is happening in the country have truly strengthened in citizens. The main reason for this kind of doubt is the continued socio-economic differentiation and a new challenge - distance from each other.

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[Ros 56]

It is necessary to write the truth and only the truth. Then it will be - history, but in another way, it is called - fiction and as a result we will get a transcription of history.

[Reserve buildbat]

In history, the truth has never been written. All these Nestors, Karamzins, etc. composed history for the sake of modern power. And now the same thing.

[Insurgent]

FOM President: how Putin will enter history books

Quote: Stroibat stock

In history, the truth has never been written. All these Nestors, Karamzins, etc. composed history for the sake of modern power. And now the same thing.

Empress All-Russian Empress Catherine II went down in history as the Great, while rejecting the proposal to be so called from the Legislative Commission convened by her in 1767, and designed to put things in order in the empire, but for a number of reasons that did not justify the hopes placed on her.

Catherine considered this proposal and explained the following:

1. To consider it great or not - this will need to be decided by posterity. For neither she herself nor her contemporaries have the right to do this.

2. Catherine still wanted to be called "Wise." But even here the queen modestly remarked that only the Lord God is wise. And she is just a ruler who loves her people and whose task is to take care of public affairs.

[Crowe]

In honor of the Victory of the Soviet people over fascist Germany, it was decided to erect a sculptural ensemble - a monument in the Treptow Park in Berlin. The leader was approved by the sculptor Vuchetich (he went to war as a volunteer, and graduated from the battalion commander). Vuchetich said that K. Voroshilov recommended that he create an ensemble - a full-length Stalin monument with the image of Europe or the globe in his hands. Two sketches were made. Stalin chose the figure of a soldier with a child in her arms.

[kjhg]

Quote: Crowe

Two sketches were made. Stalin chose the figure of a soldier with a child in her arms.

No wonder he was called the father of the nation during his lifetime.
And descendants will write the truth about Putin as a petty, worthless, hypocritical protege of big capital. Here the clergyman in the sixth generation said bluntly

[Stas157]

FOM President: how Putin will enter history books

Of course it will. The only question is in what quality! But it’s far from what the court slabs draw to him, designed to compose the modern history of oligarchic Russia.

The hypocritical cunning man, a generator of half-hearted decisions and a conservative of transformations begun by Yeltsin. Putin is a substitute for Yeltsin and his entourage. And they did not fail with him!

[Alex777]

Yes, there is no prophet in his Fatherland ...
Cheerful writers, freely expressing their thoughts, will appreciate this freedom only when the next ruler (God forbid), for such a post, sends "people's money" for 5 years to multiply with free labor.
But it will be too late ...

[Alex777]

You can minus. You can turn on your head.

[Alex777]

Start trumping down!

Trump signed a decree on the regulation of social networks

https://www.interfax.ru/world/710803
I didn’t even have to wait long ...

[iouris]

Quote: Alex777

Yes, there is no prophet in his Fatherland ...

Just with the fatherland, everything is in order: some prophets.
He defended his thesis "Development, research and application of algorithms for constructing integral indicators of the functioning of complex systems" for the degree of candidate of technical sciences in 1984 at the Institute of Management Problems (Moscow).
In 1996, the Public Opinion Foundation became the basic sociological organization of B.N. Yeltsin in the presidential election. Oslon was then part of the well-known Analytical Group.
Born in the city of Zlatoust, Chelyabinsk region, in a family of electrical engineers. Parents hail from Ukraine, graduated from the Moscow Power Engineering Institute in the 1950s, and left for Israel in the mid-1990s.
And how many times has been awarded!

[Alex777]

So I didn’t mean Oslo as a prophet? Never!
And the author to whom I answered was also not writing about Oslon.

[Trotil42]

It will go down not only in history textbooks, but also in the Guinness book.... as the only ruler who was able to reset history ... who, as a result of a time reform, was able to abolish time zones in Russia..totry was able to double GDP growth by firing the head of ROSSTAT ...

[Alex777]

Yes Yes Yes. Pioneer enthusiasm prevented checking the facts before setting out.
Belts change this to Medvedev.

[Trotil42]

Check .... the last one who was sausage under the law on time was Putin, in 2014 amended the law ... it seems Magadan jumped for two hours ...

[Alex777]

Sergei! As far as I remember, this was a correction of Medvedev’s deeds at the request of the places. Especially not advertised.
https://vlg.aif.ru/infographic/chasovye_poyasa_v_rossii_infografika
https://ndn.info/novosti/10730-putin-podpisal-zakon-smenit-chasovoj-poyas-v-novosibirske

[Trotil42]

Alexander .. he expressed his tacit consent to Medvedev’s actions .. he didn’t understand the elementary laws of nature, he couldn’t .. It’s wildness when a part of the country wakes up two hours later or earlier ... Everything was done with his approval ...

[Alex777]

I know for sure that not everything is not approved.
As I know, what Medvedev was removed for.
That's just too early to tell.

[Ros 56]

One more confirmation that our homegrown liberalists and especially foreigners simply lie about Stalin.

[Alex777]

What, there are no living relatives to tell: how was it under Stalin?
I have, thank God. And I do not need to speculate who is lying there and who is not.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Ros 56

One more confirmation that our homegrown liberalists and especially foreigners simply lie about Stalin.

The role in the history of Stalin is not unambiguous. On the one hand, repression, on the other, economic growth and victory in the Second World War. So it will be with Putin. The bad will be forgotten over time, and the Caucasus and Crimea will remain part of the country. All this will be decided by descendants, not WE.

[Alex777]

One cannot disagree with you.

[cniza]

And this is correct, and we cannot change it, because we cannot.

[AA17]

Dear, Marconi41 (Andrey). "Bad things will be forgotten over time ..." - Your phrase. It depends on what is considered bad and what is a disaster. Today, officially, until the end of the Putin Era, there are still 4 years. But we can already sum up some results. For me, the Age of Putin is a fixation of the final destruction of the Independent Social State for the majority of citizens. Continuation of the redistribution of public property with subsequent transfer to private individuals. The creation of a New dependent (bourgeois, corporate, raw material - I could not find a capacious definition) of the State with favorable conditions for enrichment for a small part of the population.
“... Russia has one of the highest concentrations of wealth - 1% of the population controls almost 60% of the country's total wealth. This is more than the world average. At the same time, since 2008, the share of wealth in the hands of the richest 1% of Russians has grown by 13 %. ...
In Russia, they counted 246 thousand dollar millionaires at the end of 2019. Moreover, in 2010 there were only 14 thousand of them, that is, their number in the country increased 17 times over the past decade .... "https://vc.ru/finance/102286-kolichestvo-dollarovyh-millionerov-v-rossii -vyroslo-v-17-raz-za-10-let

[Marconi41]

Quote: AA17

For me, the era of Putin is the fixation of the final destruction of the Independent Social State

The main phrase "For you" and many people will agree with you. But there will also be those for whom the name Putin is associated with the country's exit from the crisis of the 90s. However, the decision of Putin's role in history will be the wrong ones. Descendants will appreciate from their point of view.

[Alex777]

The era of Putin is the fixation of the final destruction of the Independent Social State for most citizens.

Respected AA17 (Alexander Anatolyevich)!
Alas, there has never been an independent social state.
Pensioners vote for Putin for a simple reason - with him, pensions are paid on time. What happened to them at EBN you already forgot?
In the late USSR, where there were no Stalinist repressions, products could be bought in cities of the 1st supply category: Moscow, Kislovodsk, Sochi and the like. Of course, even in closed areas.
Underground and not very millionaires in the USSR have existed since the time of Ostap Bender.
And the princes, and khans, and bais lived well. It’s just that they, in the national republics, became party and Soviet leaders.
Or is polygamy in Soviet times a big secret for someone?
It is useless to state all causes and circumstances in a short post.
You are apparently an atheist by conviction. That would explain a lot.
In today's situation, I am pleased that our leader is an intelligent, efficient and not bloodthirsty person.
He has no other leaders for you, except for those whom he uses.
Although I personally hate Gref, Chubais, Medvedev, Prokhorov, Shuvalov, and further on the list.
But the last thing we need now is inner turmoil.
At least believe me, at least check, but in 2012 one era ended and another began. The world that we knew will never be again.
Everything that is happening in the world only confirms the thesis.
It is impossible to return to youth and the USSR.
And what the new world will be like depends on all of us. From whether we have "WE"

[Alex777]

And the last.
I am sure that Russia has exceeded the plan for revolutions.
Our "foreign partners" sleep and see how to divide us along some lines.
At least for national, at least for property, even for religion. There are enough examples. Ukraine is one great example of what happens when the plans of "foreign partners" start to come true.
All the shortcomings you listed are present there in a hypertrophied form.
And they have no hope. Unlike us.

[Shurik70]

Who is this "FOM President"?
Descendants will judge without his opinion.

[aybolyt678]

"Ashamed gentlemen in our age enlightened from smallpox to die!" - the words of the Empress to the death of Louis XV. It's the end of the 18th century! these are the words of the world's first monarch to inoculate himself with smallpox! Which not only instilled in herself, but also founded smallpox houses (analogue of FAP) throughout Russia!
She was surrounded by: Suvorov, Lomonosov, Nakhimov, Potemkin - all from the lower classes who became the Elite thanks to their talents. How can you compare the scale of the personalities of Catherine, Stalin and Putin ??? Catherine is the era of breakthroughs and Putin is the protégé of the oligarchy powerless against the coronavirus. Although at his disposal there is a Soviet NGO "Vector" for which it will take a couple of months to create a specific immunoglobulin.

[Insurgent]

Quote: aybolyt678

She was surrounded by: Suvorov, Lomonosov, Nakhimov, Potemkin - all from the lower classes, who became Elite thanks to talents.

Well, let's put it from the lower classes, and even then, not only MV Lomonosov, but Nakhimov, from another fairy tale altogether ...

In addition, your mistakes do not refute the fact of the empress’s ability to distinguish from the mass of others? capable, active, extraordinary people ...

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Insurgent

Nakhimov, that one from another tale

Thank you Mentioned - Ushakov!

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Insurgent

Well, let's put from the bottom, and even then, not from the "most-most" only MV Lomonosov

And even then, under Catherine, he lived only 2.5 years out of 53 lived

[aybolyt678]

THX! but she really corresponded with Voltaire! and founded orphanages, in general, has done extraordinarily much for Russia! I found one defect - I did not consider peasants as people, which for that time was usually

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: aybolyt678

I found one defect - I did not consider peasants as people, which for that time was usually

Then remember the Pugachev Peasant War, of which there were only two in Russia. Then there was the overthrow of the rightful sovereign Peter III, and in the Seven Years War Catherine was a spy in favor of Frederick the Great, that is, treason in its purest form. And so, the noblemen lived well and carefree with her, the embezzlement flourished .... extremely dubious ruler in the history of Russia

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Stirbjorn

extremely dubious ruler in the history of Russia

you are a victim of an information war. Ekaterina is victory, this is rise at 5 in the morning, and checking the palace, this is real work, the introduction of paper money in Russia !! Crimea! Victory over smallpox, plague, the creation of schools, orphanages for children ... Well, yes, the privileges of the nobility are excessive, spoiled the favorites, I agree

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: aybolyt678

you are a victim of an information war.

who with whom ?! The Anglo-Saxons sent Pugachev ?! Pikul writes about espionage in favor of Frederick, including in "Pen and Epee". By the way, about getting up at 5 am who is this ?! You would describe her merits more specifically, otherwise only slogans

[aybolyt678]

+ + +

Quote: Stirbjorn

About spying in favor of Frederick at Pikul written

at Pikul in Favorit, Catherine's day was described exactly, how she woke a sleepy palace in the morning, she went to bed early and got up very early. She was a graphomaniac, wrote letters herself. Different Pugachevs were among all the rulers. Egg Cossacks, as it is not much peasants. And then, all the same, a language barrier, many actions not from life experience, but on the advice, at first she was very young.
But your thought is that the Anglo-Saxons sent Pugachev - sooooo interesting! ++++

[Alex777]

Pikul wrote beautifully. Like.
But under Catherine he was not there.

[Alexey from Perm]

here licked so licked as soon as the mouth did not break

[Ros 56]

You misinterpret the concept of history.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Ros 56

You misinterpret the concept of history.

in fact true. The current interpretation of this sin

[knn54]

"History is the nail on which I hang my picture"
A. Dumas.

[AUL]

Quote: Stroibat stock

In history, the truth has never been written.

No matter what will write in textbooks about the current guarantor. Remember that will be different!

[Tochilka]

Yes sir! list of Putin's catchphrases V.V. in a separate paragraph. The paragraph dedicated to the period of the first quarter of the 21st century will be called "Getting up from your knees and there is no time to swing."
Well, by analogy, the section of economics "Socially responsible effective managers".
And about the capital and its head "Border-virologist"
ps sarcasm if someone did not understand

[New Year day]

Quote from AUL

Remember that will be different!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Stroibat stock

In history, the truth has never been written. All these Nestors, Karamzins, etc. composed history for the sake of modern power. And now the same thing.

Support. Only eyewitnesses can tell the truth. And then - before death. And that is not all. And the bibliographers, they’ll write what they need. At least in the textbook, even in the constitution. Therefore, as I believe, it makes no sense to try now to evaluate the future color and scale of Putin’s figure in textbooks. Depending on the publication, it will change if it does not fall under compulsory oblivion. Or maybe churches in his honor will be erected. HZ, HZ.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Polite Elk

Or maybe churches in his honor will be erected. HZ, HZ.

something like the Yeltsin Center will be !!!!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Polite Elk

Or maybe churches in his honor will be erected. HZ, HZ.

Yeah, they will put it in the Mausoleum, it is "double".

[Olgovich]

Quote: Stroibat stock

In history never wrote the truth. All these Nestors, Karamzins, etc. composed history for the sake of modern power.

To assert about Karamzin's "untruth", one must for certain know the truth.

How do you know her? From Fomenko? Sokolova?

[Reserve buildbat]

Karamzin himself wrote that his "History ..." is an artistic work. By the way, who are Fomenko and Sokolov, whom you mentioned? As a person who graduated from the history department of the Ural State University in 2000, I do not know such scientists.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Karamzin himself wrote that his "History ..." is an artistic work.

1. You did not answer a simple question:
Ч

to assert about the "untruth" of Karamzin, one must know the truth for sure.

How do you know her? question

2. He did not say that.

The fusion of HISTORICAL SCIENCE with the artistry of the IMAGES is another.

[samarin1969]

Quote: Ros 56

It is necessary to write the truth and only the truth.

I would like to ... But the author predicts a "story for growing up". There is no such country, and there are no such textbooks where they would write the truth. The historical truth is "inconvenient" for almost everyone.

[Civil]

There will be a classic, the next tsar of Russia, as it should be, will blame "damned Putinism" for all problems, then he will promise in the same way, hand out everything to friends and steer to death in the same way. Otherwise, there is no sushi for 1/7, and exceptions only confirm the rules

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Civil

the next tsar of Russia, as it should be, will blame "damned Putinism" for all problems

they are in fashion continuity. Announces tradition, opens the Putin Center, calls for building a strong Russia ... to protect the oligarchs

[New Year day]

Quote: aybolyt678

Announce tradition, open Putin Center ...

will publish the complete works

[Svarog]

Quote: Ros 56

It is necessary to write the truth and only the truth.

Everyone has their own truth .. Everything will depend on who will be the next president .. that truth will be .. Yeltsin is trying to rehabilitate in Yekaterinburg ..

[Atlant-1164]

History as a textbook should be removed from school education. leave a book with the title "Myths and Histories of Modern Russia".

[Doccor18]

It is necessary to write the truth and only the truth. Then it will be - history, but in another way, it is called - fiction and as a result we will get a transcription of history.

If you write the truth, then this is a politically incorrect textbook, because the person is still in power.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Doccor18

If you write the truth

truth is just an interpretation of known facts .... How to find the Truth?

[Doccor18]

Oh, I assure you, and the truth will not wait long. But truth can only be dreamed of.

[Doccor18]

Oh, I assure you, and the truth will not wait long. But truth can only be dreamed of.

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

The problem is that no one understands anything. So much for the truth. Even if you record everything on a VCR, you won’t find the truth. The truth is in the right analytics, and no one can do it. Only countries that have lived thousands of years without war on their territory can slowly comprehend it. What is your truth if you are standing under the barrel? Just how do you survive. Now, this very second, and not through millennial generations. The right ones perish first, and if the bloo survived, then it will only eat and shred. That is all modern philosophy. This is used by the cunning of this world.

[Vladimir_2U]

The main reason for this kind of doubt is the continued socio-economic differentiation and a new challenge - distance from each other.

Strange, to blame on one social problem and the medical method. And distancing really helps, and differentiation hurts.

[Crowe]

I’m embarrassed to ask when Mishustin managed to become popular?
About nationalization. Answer: "I am against nationalization."
About the progressive scale of taxation. Answer: there is no one to charge a higher income tax rate "
Crimea, yes, I agree, it is possible and necessary to enter in the textbook.

[Gardamir]

Crimea, yes, I agree, you can and should be entered in the textbook

as well as gifts to the Norwegians, Chinese, Azerbaijanis, ...

[depressant]

Gardamir, I am not able to appreciate what they write in history textbooks. What the ruler who comes after Putin will need will be written. I can only evaluate the current political moment. And he is extremely interesting. I suppose we all need to do this.

[populist]

depressant (lyudmila yakovlevna kuznetsova) I can only evaluate the current political moment.

There is only one conclusion on the current political moment.
The authorities are not able to develop the country,
and folk remedies are squandered.

And he is extremely interesting

In my opinion he is terrible. No prospects.

[Ryaruav]

Well, stick his figure to the monument of the millennium of Russia, everything goes to this

[Andrea]

It comes to the fact that he deserves a separate monument, and he will surely be.

[Gardamir]

deserves a separate monument

like Gorbachev.

[Deniska999]

Especially worth mentioning is the "bunker period" of the reign)

[depressant]

Deniska 999, I would be extremely careful with this. As practice has shown, the process of body recovery after coronavirus disease in many cases takes a long time. And now, imagine that the president fell ill, and the country ended up in the hands of our predatory bureaucracy, local political kings, all sorts of rich thieves with their immeasurable number of guards, many of whom have combat experience, as well as some disgruntled military men and already proven candidates for throne. If there had not been a coup, then the opposition against Putin's absolutism, in the absence of formal rights to absolutism, which nevertheless does exist, could gain serious momentum and shatter the delicate balance in which our country finds itself. Yes, the listed internal negativity was created by Putin. But at a dangerous moment of coronavirus rubbing between countries, the president must be healthy, and the fact that he went to the "bunker" I once approved. Losing the president at a dangerous moment is dangerous! I was only offended by his yellow spacesuit as a symbol of his idea of ​​the level of the collective intelligence of the population - otherwise they would not have understood about the "bunker".

[Uncle lee]

Quote: depressant

predatory bureaucracy, local political kings, all kinds of rich thieves

And this layer formed immediately, as he went into the bunker?

[depressant]

A colleague, I think your question is bitter humor. Not a layer - whole hordes of villains have been called upon by Putin, since 2000, to create the vertical of power and the colonial economy in a formally independent country. Called for. Nurtured. Now reaping. The villains, they are the villains. They don’t know the feeling of gratitude, by definition they are not disposed to honest service to the country. To fidelity to the owner - too.
Yesterday, during the discussion of the Ignatiev phenomenon, the word "fronda" was mentioned. Putin not only deserved it, but also received it.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: depressant

bitter humor

Very bitter, bitterly bitter .....

[Yngvar]

Dear Depressant!
Maybe the president is hiding in the bunker from his "friends"? God forbid strangling in an embrace ...
Well, and the "yellow spacesuit" ... It reminds me very much from the film "Kin-dza-dza" about "differentiation of the population by color ... yellow pants"!

[depressant]

Yngvar, according to my feelings, you are not far from the truth. For the sake of stability, Putin for 20 years has only mildly persuaded oligarchs to invest in Russia, and officials - not to steal. Western hereditary capital possesses a high degree of snobbery and our oligarchs, contrary to their hopes, were not allowed into the hallway, not to the stable. And they endured in the hope that maybe someday ... And now this our predatory flock in the West is beginning to be taken by the gills - "Where did you get it? Show the documents!" And so, in horror, they begin to accumulate in Russia and gradually transfer the stolen here - in that Russia, which their children scornfully call "rashka". And officials of all stripes and ranks, who suddenly began to be actively seized and imprisoned by law enforcement agencies for non-compliance and theft, rushed about like rats. And you will not believe - both the oligarchs and the ranks they fed justify the viciousness of their own actions by the fact that they cannot consider Russia their country. Like, it does not belong to us, because we are such unpatriots. They say that the share of state property is too large in everything. The state brazenly interferes with the affairs of companies. And then Medvedev (!!!) makes them a New Year's gift ...
On December 31, 2019, an Order of the Government of the Russian Federation was adopted
N3260-r "On approval of the forecast plan for the privatization of federal property for 2020 - 2022"
Within 2 years, everything that can come to your mind will be privatized, which means either bankrupt or reprofiled. The list is huge. The oligarchs are already shaking hands with greed. They do not want to give anything to Putin's "family", encouraging the purchased officials to disobey, starting with the oligarch Sobyanin and ending with the pathetic Ignatiev, in order to bring confusion to the Kremlin and bargain on their own terms. From here arose a frond, which did not exist before. Officials who previously did not dare to take their eyes off the floor when they planted such specimens as Khoroshavin have now found a voice and are attacking the authorities in the hope that they too will get a lot if the authorities weaken from attacks. And already squealed those wishing to keep in time for the sale from abroad. A hundred rich people issued a memorandum like "We will return if we are not arrested on arrival." It is quite obvious that these are the very "friends" from whom Putin will have to hide further, otherwise they will be swallowed. He gave birth to them, but ... Taras Bulba had only two sons. And here - a huge pack of greedy bats, ready to devour the country with giblets and very upset that they are no longer understood in the West.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Deniska999

Especially worth mentioning is the "bunker period" of the reign)

I "like" such statements. Do you know for sure something about the bunker? And if not, then people like you will add myths to history.

[cniza]

Apparently he personally reported.

[The leader of the Redskins]

It depends on what year the textbook will be published, well, and the "pointer from above" should not be forgotten.
In my family:
Grandfather and grandmother I.V. Stalin was idolized.
Parents, thanks to the thaw, considered him a tyrant.
I, a child of perestroika, received both this and that. Thanks to the multifaceted historian at school.
My son. He just knows that there was such a leader just during the war. I heard about the thaw, repressions, Turukhan and so on "in passing" - that's how he was taught ...

[hagen]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

My son. He just knows that there was such a leader just during the war. I heard about the thaw, repressions, Turukhan and so on "in passing" - that's how he was taught ...

As Academician Arbatov said, the main teacher of history is the family. When did you say that

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

In my family:
Grandfather and grandmother I.V. Stalin was idolized.
Parents, thanks to the thaw, considered him a tyrant.
I, a child of perestroika, received both this and that.

You have confirmed it. Therefore to

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

that's how he was taught ...

add "we" ...

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

My son. He just knows that there was such a leader just during the war.

Stalin was not just a leader, he was commander in chief .. it is customary to say about the military that such a general won such a battle, or they won the war under his command.
The official point of view is that the people won the war! about Stalin at the parade of silence.
and they will talk about Putin in the future as Khrushchev, who set a certain vector of raw material development, strengthened it, reduced the level of education, introduced the ideology of consumption

[Evdokim]

. "The era of Putin"

Oslon believes that this is what will be included in history books in the paragraph on the time during which Vladimir Putin leads the country.

I think it’s too early for me to write textbooks about Putin, it’s not yet retired. Yes, he himself most likely will disapprove.

And also in the textbook “they will reflect the victory over the coronavirus”.

As for the victory over the infection, it’s too early even to write in the newspapers of the relational report, and not something in the history textbooks.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The era of Putin ...
Anecdote:
An ancient highlander dies, the whole family has gathered. Highlander:
- My grandchildren! When I was a child, a very wise man ruled the country, made a revolution, defeated the bourgeois ... what was the name of that time?
- Leninism, grandfather!
- Yes ... Leninism ... Then the right countryman. He defeated everyone in the great war! What was that time called?
- Stalinism, grandfather!
- Yes, Stalinism .... And I will die, will time be called differently?
“No, Grandpa Onanius!” Do not die!....

[Insurgent]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Ancient Highlander Dies

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I'll die, will time be called differently?
“No, Grandpa Onanius!” Do not die!....

It’s hard for me to imagine a mountaineer named Onanius ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, then a joke about Cheburashka and the crocodile Gena, I won’t tell you - you certainly won’t imagine a soft toy and an amphibian ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Evdokim

I think it’s too early for me to write textbooks about Putin, it’s not yet retired. Yes, he himself most likely will disapprove.

Correctly ,youdo not write a textbook ...

"He will not approve"? Is there a reason to think so? After all, the" zeroing "procedure proposed by the people, he favorably and humbly accepted ...

What can’t you do for the sake of a people who ask and plead kneeling ...

[rocket757]

As usual, LIBRA!
They will hang out here, here, everyone can pile their own, different.
Seriously ... any leader is a product of the GOVERNING SYSTEM, for the allotted period of time!
This is the system that should be considered, and not the face, set up in the frame of public viewing.

[regdan]

Will go down in history books as a talker. So the people call him. And I said that softly.

[Andrea]

Putin’s rule is historical in itself, and in terms of rank, it’s probably equal to the rule of Peter the Great and Catherine.
As for "We", how many are familiar with the neighbors on the landing?

[Alex777]

Soon I will catch you in popularity.
But as for us, it’s not up to the staircase neighbors.

[Crystal of Truth]

I would not cling to power with all my strength I would come in as a good president ..
And so ...

[Alex777]

He will come in not just as good, but as great. But not soon.
Are we not evaluating the finished legacy?
GDP still has time to increase it.
By the way, I will remind history buffs that Peter the Great personally raised Prince Menshikov repeatedly, but did not exile or execute him for some reason.
As for clinging, I’m not sure that he will go to the next term.
Just aware of some plans, what else can he do.
When Prokhorov ran, I voted for him.
It is still a shame that such an eccentric was.
Everyone who sees Navalny in the presidents I advise you to look at Zelensky.
They have the same level of readiness to be president. No.

[New Year day]

Quote: Alex777

Peter the Great personally raised Prince Menshikov repeatedly, but did not exile or execute for some reason.

How many Menshikov extended without Peter? And he would have been more modest, maybe he would have lived and ruled. But no, greed failed. And why are his friends and comrades better than Menshikov?

[Alex777]

And take an interest in how much he held out.
And under Catherine, he was not in poverty.
Ask why he was exiled to Berezovo.
And the point is not in Menshikov, but in the fact that Peter is the Great.

[Gardamir]

The court sociologist, what to expect from him. Fancy and nothing more

[samarin1969]

[quoteOslon believes that this is what will be included in history books in the paragraph on the time during which Vladimir Putin leads the country. And also in the textbook “they will reflect the victory over the coronavirus”. There, according to the head of the POF, the theme of reunification with Crimea and the revival of the concept of “we” will be included.] [/ Quote]
What does it mean "will enter" ?? ... In the main textbook of Torkunov 2016 "The Age of Putin", 35 pages are already devoted to Crimea, all "strategies", "concepts", etc. In terms of the amount of material, this "era" approximately corresponds to the 20-30s ... THE USSR.

ps One wonders why exactly these few phrases of Mr. Oslan from a large interview deserved the attention of VO.

[nobody111body]

so-so, not a tseler Eltsin, of course, but not Stalin, unfortunately; with a pension, the Bolsheviks disgraced themselves in 28g already began to pay, but then times were many times more difficult; threatened to reconsider the privatization and did not do a little niche though the oligarchs were in control; somehow he decided to help Assad and the Syrians, but everything is done halfway "shoot down those planes, don't touch these"; finally replaced like Medvedev, but gave shelter to the "pension reformer" Siluanov, although they are blaming a certain Nazarov; the current began to help the Syrians when the Jews destroyed almost half of the country, although it was possible before; but there are also good gas exports? increased; and there seemed to be less explosions, or else under the Eltsin bazaars and metro and trains were blown up; he certainly did something, but the USSR as a state cannot be returned to him; it's a pity

[depressant]

No one’s colleague, with gas export, is just not very good. Even before coronavirus, Turkey reduced the volume of our gas consumed by 111 times. And so everything was written correctly. And your conclusion is correct.

[nobody111body]

Turkey, a long time ago NATO, we have nothing to catch there and we don’t need to, but gas processing ourselves is very necessary, since you can get a lot of valuable products after that; Yes, and oil is not very good raw materials drive

[depressant]

Exactly! We have huge non-gasified spaces, and even Tsar Nicholas II allowed to drive crude oil abroad only in the form of a negligible% of the total production - only kerosene and gasoline!

[Alex777]

Ka finished his journey Nicholas II?
And who is struggling to save us, with our oil and gas, from the opportunity to sell them?
You are directly quoting the State Department training manual.

[depressant]

I quote only a fact from the history of my country. I’m not familiar with the manuals of the State Department. And you, it seems, yes, if you so confidently mention that it contains the fact that the tsar has banned Russian crude from trading abroad. Puncture, colleague! Be careful!...
Of course I'm joking. Neither you nor I have read any manuals — neither the State Department, nor the Kremlin. It’s just that each of us speaks of concern for the country, for our future in it, preferably a prosperous one. And it says from different perspectives. For me, the glass is already half empty, for you it is still half full. That's how we once overlooked the 92nd year.

[Alex777]

I do not know what we overlooked in 92g.
In 91, I was stupid to go to protect the database. Not for long.
In 93, Gaidar’s calls to defend him aroused only a grin.
And you definitely noticed - my glass is half full.
I entered the Moscow State University under Brezhnev, but I do not feel any nostalgia for the CPSU.
And a great country, assembled by generations of ancestors and split into parts - is certainly a pity.
As for the sale of resources - the higher the interdependence, the less chance of war.
Everything that America is doing now, IMHO, everything is aimed at solving 2 problems:
1) to return the industry back so as not to depend on anyone, as in 1941
2) to become the most "shameful" (as I understand you) seller of resources (thus closing their needs for oil).
I happened to live in the US for almost 10 years. So I have some idea.
When they solve these problems, then they will be able to fight not only with different Basmachi, but also with serious opponents. Like us and China.
No need to help them in these 2 tasks. We must interfere by all means.
As for gasoline ... We have many allies in Europe in the sale of oil, and nobody in the sale of gasoline. And diplomacy is the art of the possible. (Bismarck).
The state is also not selling gasoline.

[tatra]

This is the essence of the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR. You destroyed the USSR - and as a huge, de facto, centuries-old country, and as the best State - both in development and for the majority of the people, in comparison with the Russian Empire and your "independence" - but you will never admit it as your crimes against your country and people. You are AGAINST Soviet power, but none of you is capable of proving that the Romanovs or the post-Soviet regime is better for your country and people.

[Alex777]

My lady
You obviously are not feeling well. Personally, I did not destroy anything.
But the leaders of the CPSU, in the person of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevardnadze, Nazarbayev, Kravchuk, Shushkevich Yakovlev, etc. - they are. Destroyed.
There are so many materials on this subject that he who has eyes will see.
Zyuganov won the election with Yeltsin in 96 and quietly merged.
So do not get the blame on the healthy.
You can still recall that before the revolutionary events, Poland and Finland were part of Russia.
And there was a wonderful country until Nicholas II went over the Turkish Straits to fight in the World War. No.1 country was in the world.
The whole school was compared how much the USSR produced and smelted and what Russia had in 1911.

[Crystal of Truth]

Why should they fight with you?

[Mavrikiy]

I wonder how NOM FOM and its chairman, Sasha Oslon, will go down in history. And he probably wants to come in as a prophet. To do this, he shook off the dust from "the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia Vladimir Zhirinovsky," they have already begun to forget the clown.

And also in the textbook “they will reflect the victory over the coronavirus”.

this nonsense will be forgotten, after 10 years, who remembers "bird flu"? VIKI:

In the 2013 mayoral election in Moscow, the FOM forecast data significantly diverged from the results (Sergei Sobyanin's rating was overestimated, and his opponents underestimated). President of the Fund Alexander Oslon recognized this discrepancy, explaining it as the only reason - the absence of a significant portion of potential voters Sobyanin; as an explanation for the low turnout, he, in turn, proposed the hypothesis that on election day, many of them preferred to work in summer cottages. Oslon also promised in the future. Alexander Oslon. Elections in Moscow. Sociological incident (September 12, 2013).

This is how the fund works.

[Van 16]

It's too early to judge. As Stirlitz said, the last phrase is remembered. Putin hasn’t gone anywhere yet, he hasn’t said the last phrase. If we assume that he leaves tomorrow, he will be remembered for the following events, of which only one positive thing: he annexed Crimea, raised his retirement age, changed the Constitution for himself, self-reset, self-insulated.

[Gardamir]

the last phrase is remembered.

Crimea is no longer the last phrase, and it was mastered, as was allegedly victory at the time in Chechnya.

[Van 16]

I agree. But I wanted to remember at least something good, of the minuses I could add a lot more (failure to fulfill almost all of my promises, the vertical of power on the principle of personal loyalty and "what you please", etc.), but only this was recalled from the positive.

[depressant]

Facts are remembered, not intentions. The history books will include the annexation of Crimea, the prevention of Chechnya from leaving Russia, as well as the Syrian war. Interpretation of these events will be given in accordance with the worldviews of subsequent first persons. Either negative or positive. Perhaps without mentioning the name of Putin. He practically does not mention Stalin even in the context of the Second World War.

[Alex777]

The history books will include the annexation of Crimea, the prevention of Chechnya's exit from Russia

Chechnya’s exit from Russia was the first step in dividing it into pieces.
Until now, in addition to GDP, we have one more "president".
And when he came to the leadership, "presidents" were on every corner.
They took sovereignty as much as they could, as the EBN suggested.
Stalin Putin mentions. Although I would do it less.
My grandfather was surrounded near Kiev ...
3 times fled from the concentration camp. 3 times he was caught and tortured.
For the fourth time, he was able to leave.
And all who stayed died ...

[Break through]

Will enter as one of the great rulers of the history of Russia. Which pulled the country from the pit of the 90s. Which returned the Crimea. The country is one big construction site it pleases. As I recall, Yekaterinburg 90's already bad at heart. Now the norm. Skyscrapers are all things, schools, hospitals. The fate of our country is only to go forward. In short, Putin will rule another 12 years. Therefore, our enemies and rage. So they need it!

[AUL]

Quote: Break through

Will enter as one of the great rulers of the history of Russia.

As the chairman of the Ozero cooperative!

[Break through]

Yes, even a cooperative Sea. The main thing is great and the people know this.

[AU Ivanov.]

Indeed, E-Burg is a city of skyscrapers. From a smelly Soviet city turned into a beautiful and well-groomed capital of the Urals. However, like Peter. A city for which it is not a shame.

[New Year day]

Quote: Break through

Which pulled the country from the pit of the 90s.

maybe the high oil price has pulled out after all? Now she has fallen and the "traction" is not visible

Quote: Break through

Skyscrapers are all things, schools, hospitals.

Churches across the country have forgotten!

[parusnik]

Hmm ... deflection is protected

[Insurgent]

Quote: parusnik

Hmm ... deflection is protected

It happens that a personality is made a cult, but sometimes it’s just a bubble inflated ...

[Egoza]

You can "enter" history textbooks, but into HISTORY - to get involved. And only time and national memory will show who really entered, and who only fleetingly will be remembered on occasion.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Egoza

You can "enter" history textbooks, but into HISTORY - to get involved. And only time and national memory will show who really entered, and who only fleetingly will be remembered on occasion.

There is a law in Russia. On perpetuating the memory of presidents. Vanity is not the last trait of rulers. So, in addition to donkeys (who will remember his words in at least a month?), Museums await us not only Yeltsin, but Putin and Medvedev. The straw is laid out.
Out of relation to Putin, he went down in history. Both on business and on the long term. Now, will all his affairs in the museum be displayed?

[Naemnik]

It depends on who will create the textbook ... If from the Soros Foundation, then it’s clear who will present it.

[New Year day]

Quote: Naemnik

It depends on who will create the textbook ... If from the Soros Foundation, then it’s clear who will present it.

and if today's "admirers", then this is already being done ..
In the St. Petersburg polyclinic ...

In the Tula Regional Library and the Tula Museum of Local Lore ...

Just fans ...

a little more, a little more and ...

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Well, very, very much, some ass licks want to make Putin "great" or "wise", but so far they just can't ... YET !!!! And history itself will remember "who needs"))) Although each "sovereign" has its own story - one mausoleum was built, the second mausoleum hangs, the third one will demolish it (or maybe a shopping and entertainment complex will be built instead) .... we can't guess, what will remain in history and what will not, because we ourselves will eventually go down into history.

[Ded_Mazay]

Pique vests gathered, to judge who is the mother of history more expensive.
Moreover, everyone imagines himself an "expert" and speaks with conviction for the whole nation.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Ded_Mazay

Pique vests gathered, to judge who is the mother of history more expensive.
Moreover, everyone imagines himself an "expert" and speaks with conviction for the whole nation.

1) the sum of a large number of subjective assessments usually gives an objective assessment
2) do not be angry. No one is to blame for the fact that experts on saving rabbits from flooding are not in demand on military resources.

[Ded_Mazay]

Quote: sergo1914

Quote: Ded_Mazay

Pique vests gathered, to judge who is the mother of history more expensive.
Moreover, everyone imagines himself an "expert" and speaks with conviction for the whole nation.

1) the sum of a large number of subjective assessments usually gives an objective assessment
2) do not be angry. No one is to blame for the fact that experts on saving rabbits from flooding are not in demand on military resources.

KAMAZ of cobblestones will never become a granite block. You will never get an objective assessment based on subjective opinions. It can be obtained only on the basis of objective facts, and a fair amount of them is covered in darkness, impenetrable to an outside observer.
So I,

Quote: sergo1914

flood rescue experts.

and I’m not trying to pose as a political scientist or a sociologist, for which I urge you to.

[cniza]

Quote: Ded_Mazay

Pique vests gathered, to judge who is the mother of history more expensive.
Moreover, everyone imagines himself an "expert" and speaks with conviction for the whole nation.

We still won’t know, and it’s not for us to judge ...

[ximkim]

There will be another president, he will write in the book about the "good" deeds of his predecessor. You can’t hide anything from history, and that’s not how it will reach them.

[I think logically ... occasionally]

Freedom of speech in Russia, right? So, I express my opinion. Putin will go down in history as a weak and weak-willed politician, afraid to harshly ask his subordinates for not doing work. Almost a quote: "Well, dear, you don't have time to swing." In addition, he will go down in history as the patron saint of corruption and theft, which under him reached unprecedented proportions. Almost a quote: "It is unacceptable to plant thieves and traitors to the interests of the people, we are not in the 37th year." There is nothing black and white in the world, right? That is, he did something useful for Russia - he returned Crimea, for example. In general, the assessment of his activities for the benefit of Russia and the Russian people will be in the area of ​​two plus.

[sergo1914]

Quote: I think logically ... sporadically

weak and weak-willed politician,

Do not tell. Would you be able to throw a pen on the table during an online meeting with subordinates?

[cniza]

FOM President: how Putin will enter history books

This will be evaluated by the descendants of 100 years later, and now there will be no objectivity ...

[apro]

I think the time of today's president will be dubbed ... the time of missed opportunities.

[Freeman]

Quote: apro

I think the time of today's president will be dubbed ... the time of missed opportunities.

I think that this time will be called
- "The time when there is no time / for swinging /".

[AUL]

Quote: Freeman

I think that this time will be called

The reign of Vladimir Zero!

[Ded_Mazay]

Quote: cniza

and now there will be no objectivity ...

Actually, this can be seen in the comments ...

[Freeman]

According to him, the most popular politicians among citizens of the Russian Federation (in addition to President Vladimir Putin) are LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky, current cabinet chairman Mikhail Mishustin, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

The competence of a sociologist confusing the concepts of "fame" and "popularity" raises great doubts.
If the Saratov deputy Bondarenko was mentioned in the media as many as the mentioned characters, then in terms of fame and popularity, he would "plug them in the belt."

[Gennady Korsunov]

History is then. And, what they will talk about him later, I think the people are of little interest. But what the people are now talking about him and his entourage did not bother them all to listen, so as not to share the fate of Ceausescu !!

[Pvi1206]

to live to see this time ...

[Roman123567]

According to him, the most popular politicians among Russian citizens (besides President Vladimir Putin) are the LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky,

Where are these citizens ?? Show me at least two ..))

[sergo1914]

Quote: Roman123567

According to him, the most popular politicians among Russian citizens (besides President Vladimir Putin) are the LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky,

Where are these citizens ?? Show me at least two ..))

In the text surnames are sounded. What's wrong? Or do you think that Zhirinovsky does not consider himself the most popular politician in the world?

[Roman123567]

the most popular politicians among citizens of the Russian Federation

Zhirinovsky considers himself the most popular politician in the world?

Whom the citizens of the Russian Federation consider popular, and whom Zhirinovsky considers popular are two big differences ..

[GMM]

Quote: Gardamir

Crimea, yes, I agree, you can and should be entered in the textbook

as well as gifts to the Norwegians, Chinese, Azerbaijanis, ...

90 percent, members of the sect of witnesses of the upcoming reset, do not understand the meaning of what you wrote, well, except for Crimea, ours.
They should have explained that all of the above is not ours ...

[Oleg Skvortsov]

Lord, another lick of the Kremlin fifth points. To listen to such people is not to respect yourself. What can I say - I earned myself on caviar with butter

[ventich62]

It will go into textbooks ... With a big minus sign ...

[cosmonaut]

the bourgeois president. everything that was left to the people from the USSR destroyed everything for the benefit of the bourgeois. privileges, pensions, etc. a worthy student of Yeltsin and Gorbachev

[evgen1221]

An article from a series of regular mantras and health resorts of modern agitprop for those close to power. Putin did for the country what he could, and in no way above his head like Lenin, Stalin did not jump. Take away, more of his case will be seen as a struggle against circumstances with varying success. The people will remember it as a mean scum with a hand in the hands and no more, if not at all, against the background. But for the bureaucracy of the bureaucracy of all ranks, the yes-breadwinner and father, who smell more monuments than Lenin will build.

[vit670]

Quote: apro

I think the time of today's president will be dubbed ... the time of missed opportunities.

Crimea is credited with Putin! This is necessary! There is no merit in that! He simply had to recognize Crimea. For he could lose power.! The people of Crimea spoke out for Russia. There could be such a massacre that "Mama Do not Cry" Not to recognize the Crimea - it was to lose face and power! Putin did not want to quarrel with the West, oh, how he did not want and was afraid. And I had to! All his indecision and cowardice manifested itself (and is manifested now) in the Donbass! How did he landmark, take a "permit" to send troops into Donbass and give back this "permit"? I did not dare. Now we are reaping the benefits! Through the efforts of Putin, they raised the enemy at their side! And this is not for one generation! Imagine how the United States would have led if such a turmoil had begun, let's say in Mexico? And so cowardice and nothing else.

[vit670]

Quote: Break through

Will enter as one of the great rulers of the history of Russia. Which pulled the country from the pit of the 90s. Which returned the Crimea. The country is one big construction site it pleases. As I recall, Yekaterinburg 90's already bad at heart. Now the norm. Skyscrapers are all things, schools, hospitals. The fate of our country is only to go forward. In short, Putin will rule another 12 years. Therefore, our enemies and rage. So they need it!

In Crimea, merit Putin zero! He did not want to take Crimea, did not want to quarrel with the West! But he was forced to take the Crimea. Some Russians live there and Bandera would start cutting them! Putin would not have sat on the throne in this situation. And this is the main point! And so all his lack of will manifested itself in the Donbass to the fullest. Raised the enemy under his nose!

[AU Ivanov.]

Of course I didn't want to, they made me with a pistol at my temple. The decision to recognize Crimea was made a couple of days before, and before that Crimea was provided with force support by the Special Forces. Those very "polite people" Undoubtedly, zero merits!

[cniza]

In Crimea, merit Putin zero!

This is just your point of view and no more ...

[alone]

People write history .. Not everything that is written in history textbooks is true .. And as for Putin, of course he will fall into a history textbook ... But how, this is a completely different story

[vit670]

Quote: vit670

Quote: Break through

Will enter as one of the great rulers of the history of Russia. Which pulled the country from the pit of the 90s. Which returned the Crimea. The country is one big construction site it pleases. As I recall, Yekaterinburg 90's already bad at heart. Now the norm. Skyscrapers are all things, schools, hospitals. The fate of our country is only to go forward. In short, Putin will rule another 12 years. Therefore, our enemies and rage. So they need it!

In Crimea, merit Putin zero! He did not want to take Crimea, did not want to quarrel with the West! But he was forced to take the Crimea. Some Russians live there and Bandera would start cutting them! Putin would not have sat on the throne in this situation. And this is the main point! And so all his lack of will manifested itself in the Donbass to the fullest. Raised the enemy under his nose!

And the descendants will judge him: for more than 20 years of rule, the people have become poorer, and billionaires have become more and they have become richer !!!

[AU Ivanov.]

Under Yeltsin, the people lived undoubtedly richer. Like cheese in butter skated.

[ventich62]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Under Yeltsin, the people lived undoubtedly richer. Like cheese in butter skated.

You would have compared with the post-war devastation, or at times serfdom ...

[AU Ivanov.]

I compared with his immediate predecessor, and not with ancient times. The nineties and present times are day and night. Even against the background of the late USSR, Putin looks decent.

[cniza]

It is not possible for contemporaries to give an objective assessment of Putin, but one thing is certain - there is much more positive than negative.

[AU Ivanov.]

There are no ideal rulers, in principle, any coin has two sides. But the fact that Putin prevented the collapse of the country, restored the armed forces, raised the standard of living and returned Crimea home is undeniable. For all his externally and domestic political mistakes.

[cniza]

Namely, and I repeat, we cannot evaluate our contemporary, our descendants will do it.

[ventich62]

20 years is a lot! Stalin before the Second World War conducted industrialization, collectivization, rearmament of the army, built a fleet. The USSR defeated Germany (the current ones in Syria are already messing around longer). 5 years after the Second World War (the time of the war is worse than the Yeltsin years, you must agree) - the post-war devastation has been eliminated, prices are going down! Here is a leader and an effective manager! And Putin - what did he do for the people? Friends are all attached, do not care about the rest ...

[New Year day]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Even against the background of the late USSR, Putin looks decent.

and now, against the background of current oil prices, how does it look? Fortune turned back?

[vit670]

Quote: Gennady Korsunov

History is then. And, what they will talk about him later, I think the people are of little interest. But what the people are now talking about him and his entourage did not bother them all to listen, so as not to share the fate of Ceausescu !!

Do not worry! And what is the Rosguard created at the head of his personal guard and friend Zolotov? 350 thousand bayonets, and even a million cops! He pays them be healthy and exorbitant benefits!

[Shelest2000]

FOM President: how Putin will enter history books

Definitely! But not on a par with Stalin, Catherine, Peter I and even Brezhnev. In this row there is no place for him. His place is in another row - with Vlasov, Krasnov, Trukhin and his beloved killer of Leningrad, Mannerheim, who was trying to stick a commemorative plaque here.

[Marconi41]

The story includes all the rulers, both good and bad. At that time, many bad ones become good and vice versa. 20 years of the country still can not be thrown in the trash.

[cniza]

Of course, even during this period a whole generation has grown and only time will give an estimate.

[Kushka]

He was at the same factory with the director. Led in
brand new tool shop. Chief
also new, young. We arrive at the clutter workshop
in the morning, the boss is like a squirrel, from one site to another.
The director stood, watched, waited until they noticed.
I noticed it fits. Well, the director expressed himself so firmly
and says - I don’t need a boss who has everyone standing,
and he runs around them. You have to be in place, and around
you should spin everything.
.. [quote = depressant] And now, imagine that the president got sick,
and the country was in the hands of ...... Losing the president at a dangerous moment is dangerous! "
What kind of power is it and the order in it that its fate is directly
one person depends?

[Sergo go]

Quote: Marconi41

Quote: Ros 56

One more confirmation that our homegrown liberalists and especially foreigners simply lie about Stalin.

The role in the history of Stalin is not unambiguous. On the one hand, repression, on the other, economic growth and victory in the Second World War. So it will be with Putin. The bad will be forgotten over time, and the Caucasus and Crimea will remain part of the country. All this will be decided by descendants, not WE.

20 years of stagnation and degradation of the economy, corruption, impoverishment of the people, the rise of the oligarchy, anti-people’s laws and lies, descendants will clearly appreciate what they deserve

[Maxwrx]

The era of stagnation or even degradation. Brezhnev is also not often remembered.

[NordUral]

how Putin will enter history books

Most likely there will be no history with him and nowhere he will enter. Everything goes to that.

[Campanella]

It is for sure that Putin, with his "wise" rule, will bring "new" reformers like Yeltsin into power, and then the champions of all freedom will triumph again, drowning Russia in blood.

[faterdom]

You need to think about it. Putin himself first. And not some FOM, it’s too early, very early.
The ancient Romans did not say he died, they said "he lived!" And only this line is already such that it is possible to give an assessment - what was the person and his deeds.
Putin now has all the cards in his hands: the deadline is the last one, even if it lasts another 20 years, I think the results of the economic activities of his team are obvious to him, the "partners" have already completely exposed themselves, and soon the Americans will resume nuclear tests (isn't it time for us , for persuasiveness?), people have already howled from fines and taxes, + "self-isolation" at their own expense, bankers are swelling, and almost all state aid to at least someone - indirectly assistance to banks in the first place, healthcare - what, then we will let fireworks in honor of a successful reform? Pension again ...
In short, a certain "galley slave" needs to row in many respects exactly in the opposite direction, and throwing all these "Sebastian Pireyros" out of this galley.
Well, or will go into the textbooks number three, for Gorbachev and Yeltsin ...
It is, of course, the Yeltsin Center, and all that, but this is what the people think about this - no "textbooks" will help them ...

[Campanella]

With “WE” it’s strong, do you mean we are Vladimir Vladimirovich?
During his reign, the distance between people with different incomes increased in parsecs!
So I have absolutely no unity with the political and economic nouveau riche of Russia and will not have any. In addition, I simply hate them, because to please the market situation, they sold everything, including the memory of their ancestors and their ideals!

[MelkorAintGood]

It’s not for the Soviet people to write about Putin’s lies, they themselves are in over their head, and we still need to count who lied more: the current government or the Jewish-Soviet government.