Where did Russian planes come from in Libya?


Maxar Satellite Image of Joufra Base


In Libya, the confrontation between the Government of National Accord (PNS) and the Libyan National Army (LNA) continues. The conflict is monitored by a number of foreign countries, and some of them even provide direct support to its participants. Russia is only following the Libyan events, but they are trying to accuse it of secret participation in the conflict on the side of the LNA. This time, evidence is given of photographs of certain aircraft at one of the Libyan bases.

Libyan statements


On May 21, the PNS Ministry of the Interior announced that Russia had sent at least six MiG-29 fighters and two Su-24 bombers in support of the LNA. These aircraft have recently flown from the Khmeimim base to the Libyan airfield at Al-Jufra, controlled by LNA. Claimed that now aviation equipment can be used against the troops of the PNS.

On the same day, Maxar published satellite images of the Al-Jufra base, dated May 19. Several airplanes are visible at the airport, including previously absent MiG-29. This confirmed the information about the emergence of new technology in LNA.

On May 22, the LNA Air Force command announced "the largest air campaign in stories Libya. " The headquarters promised to inflict powerful blows on the facilities of the PNS and the Turkish army supporting it. The operation was about to begin "in the coming hours", but it still has not started for unknown reasons.

According to U.S. intelligence ...


On May 26, the US AFRICOM issued a press release on the latest developments around Russian-made equipment. The document described the American point of view on current events.


US AFRICOM press release snapshot

AFRICOM claims that Moscow has indeed sent planes to Libya. The purpose of the transfer is to support Russian private military companies involved in the Libyan conflict and supporting LNA. The planes flew from Russia with an intermediate landing in Syria, where they were masked by the previous identification marks.

The words of the head of AFRICOM, General Stephen Townsend, are given. He said that Russia is trying to change the situation in Libya in its favor, and for this it uses PMCs such as Wagner. For too long, Russia has denied any involvement in the conflict, but now it is useless. The United States observed all stages of the transfer of aircraft to Libya. In addition, without Russian help, the VLA or any PMC would not be able to operate such sophisticated equipment.

AFRICOM believes that Russia is not interested in ending the Libyan conflict and improving the situation of the Libyans. Instead, Moscow continues to advance its interests. The press release leads Air Force Commander in Europe and Africa General Jeff Harridgeian, who believes that after gaining access to Libyan air bases, Russia will deploy A2 / AD prohibition zones. This will create real risks on the southern flank of Europe.

Libyan answer


On May 27, LNA reacted to aircraft information. Its spokesman, Ahmed al-Mismari, called the latest statements strange. In addition, there was a lack of logic in the fact that, noticing Russian fighters, the United States did not pay attention to the Turkish military presence in Libya. According to LNA, up to 17 thousand mercenaries from the Middle East fell on Libyan territory, whose task is to help PNS.


A snapshot of a Su-24 bomber allegedly related to recent events. Photo from US AFRICOM press release

On the same day, the "Turkish question" was raised by the American side. Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said the United States is fundamentally opposed to any military action. He also called for peace for all - Libyan structures, Turkey and Russia. As for the “Russian trace,” J. Hoffman was unable to disclose new information about the aircraft found.

Russian planes?


Russia's official position on the Libyan conflict has long been well known. Moscow condemns the conduct of hostilities and calls for the speedy restoration of peace. Accordingly, participation in hostilities in one form or another, or the support of warring parties, is excluded. With this position, the sending of combat aircraft LNA becomes impossible.

It should be noted that there are no direct indications of MiG-29 belonging to Al-Dzhufra belonging to the Russian Aerospace Forces. Only US AFRICOM took the trouble to present at least some evidence in the form of photographs of flying aircraft with Russian identification marks. However, such images are unlikely to be related to the Libyan events - especially those on which the Su-34 aircraft are captured. These photos could very well have been taken during the Syrian operation and cannot be considered as a real argument in the current dispute.

The version of the upcoming military assistance to the LNA by the type of the Syrian operation does not make sense, and also does not correspond to the observed processes. So, before the start of the VKS operation in Syria, the Russian side openly helped official Damascus for several years. Then, the Khmeimim base was organized as soon as possible, and then an official request for help followed, which was satisfied on September 30, 2015. From the first days, various types of aircraft, both relatively old and the most modern, were involved in the operation.


MiG-29 from the American press release

Russia does not provide military support to any of the parties to the Libyan conflict. Military supplies are not supplied, and the official position excludes them. Therefore, you should not wait for the transfer of aircraft to organize a full-fledged operation of the aerospace forces like the Syrian.

Roundabout ways


The Russian origin of new aircraft for LNA is virtually ruled out, but this should not be stopped. It does not hurt to find out which country could send its planes to Libya, as well as determine its benefits from this. It is curious that the first versions of this kind appeared almost simultaneously with the first statements about the appearance of the MiG-29 at the Libyan airfield.

The publication of The Aviationist on May 21 reviewed the available data on new Libyan aircraft. Referring to unofficial sources, it wrote about the recent flight of six MiG-29s and a Tu-154 leader aircraft from Russia to Iran, landing at an airfield near the Syrian border. Perhaps then these aircraft flew to Libya.

Also, from unofficial sources, there is a version according to which the Belarusian Air Force could be the former owner of the fighters. Considering this assumption, The War Zone recalls that the Republic of Belarus is armed with samples of Soviet and Russian production, and this country is also known for re-exporting weapons to states under sanctions. Another deal of this kind could well include the sale of the MiG-29 to the Libyan National Army.

There is also a version about the presence of an intermediary. LNA receives serious economic, technical and political support from the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and some other Middle Eastern states. Any of them could well acquire equipment from Belarus and transport it to Libya. The reasons for this are obvious: strengthening the LNA in the confrontation with the PNS improves their position in the region.


Another “evidence” of the Russian presence in Libya is the Su-34, not mentioned in any reports. Photo US AFRICOM

MiG-29 and Su-24 of various modifications were delivered to a number of foreign countries, and some of them later engaged in the resale of this equipment. LNA receives support from several states, and any of them could buy airplanes. Accordingly, the obvious “circle of suspects” is quite wide, but it is extremely difficult to enter Russia into it. The position of our country does not change and does not provide for military assistance to the parties to the conflict.

Hidden reasons


In the face of the PNS and LNA in Libya, the interests of several foreign states clashed, some of which no longer even hide their participation in the conflict. Both sides of the armed conflict, despite all efforts, are far from defeating the enemy, and the civilian population continues to suffer from fighting and related problems. At the same time, Russia demonstratively takes the most peaceful position and calls on the parties to reconciliation.

The current situation does not suit anyone, and its resolution is overly complex. In such circumstances, some countries may have a desire to accuse someone of dishonest actions or shift the blame for certain events.

The appearance of several new planes at the LAA naturally causes accusations from the Government of the people's consent. It enjoys the support of the United States, as a result of which accusations are already coming from Washington towards Russia. At the same time, as the LNA command rightly notes, the USA “does not notice” the activities of an allied Turkey.

Thus, in today's history, airplanes are only a formal reason for accusations and threats. In the absence of a MiG-29 or Su-24 deployed, any other actions — or even inaction — could become a similar reason. The basis of this situation is the politics and interests of specific states against the background of the general situation in the international arena. Peace in Libya and the safety of civilians are fading into the background.
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    1. Ilya-spb 28 May 2020 06: 06 New
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      I agree. If there were Russian planes, first there would be an invitation (official) of one of the parties. Then - consideration with us. Then ... Failure. There is no legal government in Libya. There is Haftar, there is a puppet Government of national accord in Tripoli. The situation is diametrically opposed to the Syrian. When we were invited by the legally elected president of the country, Assad.

      Now, if Medvedev had eggs ... when they destroyed Gaddafi. Then history would go the other way.
      1. Jager 28 May 2020 07: 18 New
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        Dima was actually an extras warming a chair for the "guarantor".
        1. Doccor18 28 May 2020 11: 37 New
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          Dima was actually an extras warming a chair for the "guarantor".

          Yes, what are the "guarantors" .... Some extras and artists in the service of overseas "partners".
          And with Libya, as well as, in due time, with Yugoslavia, it is not so simple. Gaddafi played out, felt himself omnipotent and temporarily lost a sense of reality. If there were
          in a simpler way, as Assad, it would seem to have lived to this day.
          1. CSKA 28 May 2020 13: 31 New
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            Quote: Doccor18
            Some extras and artists in the service of overseas "partners".

            Well, of course. This is all such an insidious Western plan for Russia to make it the 6th economy of the world and raise it to a high level of geopolitics.
            1. Doccor18 28 May 2020 15: 29 New
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              The USSR was the second economy in the world. If it had not been destroyed, now it would be either the second or the first. And China would close the top three. And the sixth economy is not because, but contrary. And certainly not merit managers. Already 4 generations of “peasants” have erected such a colossus that even in 30 years it’s impossible to break everything down to the ground ...
              1. CSKA 28 May 2020 15: 44 New
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                Quote: Doccor18
                If it had not been destroyed, now it would be either the second or the first.

                So you and the Communists ruined.
                Quote: Doccor18
                And China would close the top three.

                At the moment, China is already the first.
                Quote: Doccor18
                And the sixth economy is not because, but contrary.

                ))))) Contrary to what? Or is it better to ask a question thanks to whom? If, by your logic, it is thanks to the West, because their proteges are in power.)))) And thanks to them, the standard of living in the Russian Federation has grown significantly over 20 years. And thanks to them, the terrorists in the Caucasus were defeated, and thanks to them, their own vassal was defeated in 2008, and thanks to them, we are re-equipping the army, and thanks to them, the ATS was saved by opposing them. And foreign exchange reserves increased, which is higher than in the 70s. And thanks to them, for example, we don’t buy grain from them. Right paradox.
                Quote: Doccor18
                And certainly not meager managers merit

                Well, of course. Starting from the sales manager in the plumbing store and ending with Rosneft's top manager. They have nothing to do with it.))) They probably don’t pay taxes and don’t contribute to the country's GDP? Or did you just want to insert a word?
                Quote: Doccor18
                Already 4 generations of “peasants” have erected such a colossus that even in 30 years it’s impossible to break everything down to the ground ...

                Well, for the first ten years, these same peasants and their descendants first ruined a large country, and then they themselves ruined its industry. But now they’re not breaking up.
            2. ALARI 29 May 2020 14: 55 New
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              Does the population know that we are the 6th economy of the world?
              1. CSKA 29 May 2020 16: 26 New
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                Quote: ALARI
                Does the population know that we are the 6th economy of the world?

                The part knows, but the one who does not know can find out, everything is in the public domain.
      2. Zaurbek 28 May 2020 08: 02 New
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        The main thing is not Medvedev ... the main thing is Gaddafi himself. He should have had eggs and brains when he went to put up and give up ...
        1. Mudavius 28 May 2020 12: 36 New
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          The main thing is not Medvedev ... the main thing is Gaddafi himself. He should have had eggs and brains when he went to put up and give up ...

          He felt too independent against the backdrop of petrodollars .. And yet, his main mistake was that he took Sarkozy a huge amount to the campaign and won Sarkozy !!!! And then he said that oil would be sold for the national currency .. Well, France was the first to strike at Libya, and then they joined. All the other vultures .. Torn Gaddafi to the video ..
          It’s a pity, but he didn’t spare money for the country .. Something expensive for the extraction of fresh water started construction (not desalination, namely aquifers) But he didn’t finish it ..
          Scientists say under Sahara a huge freshwater lake ..
          Now only blood and devastation in Libya!
          1. Zaurbek 28 May 2020 12: 43 New
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            I’m talking about this and when the ruler (and especially the dictator) has no brains, no one will save him. He played too much and got what he got.
            1. Mudavius 28 May 2020 13: 46 New
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              Quote: Zaurbek
              I’m talking about this and when the ruler (and especially the dictator) has no brains, no one will save him. He played too much and got what he got.

              It’s dangerous to flirt with the West .. That’s an example of humpback and EBN!
              And here I am about it hi
              1. Zaurbek 28 May 2020 13: 54 New
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                I agree .... Saakashvili ... here brother Lukoshenko is trying.
                1. Pete mitchell 28 May 2020 21: 36 New
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                  Quote: Mudavius
                  It’s dangerous to flirt with the West ..

                  I’m wildly interested in the arguments of those who came across the minuses to you. Purely sporting interest.
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                  An example of this ...
                  you don’t have to go far: all the former republics of the Union and the countries of the Department of Internal Affairs: they raped everyone and also made them portray joy ...
                  1. Zaurbek 29 May 2020 07: 59 New
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                    I’m not even interested in the minus one’s motivation anymore.
                    1. Pete mitchell 29 May 2020 09: 40 New
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                      Yes, no, minus is like a living, don't give a damn. But on a specific issue, it’s interesting - but does someone really think that the West has intentions to do good and democracy? Judging by the mentioned republics of the Baltic states and the former ATS: expanding the market, destroying any decent production and drawing into all sorts of unions, aka substitution of independence. Therefore, it is interesting, maybe I'm wrong recourse
                      1. Zaurbek 29 May 2020 12: 20 New
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                        Who has it, and someone interested carries out PR promotion. There are grants and all that. But the authorities should not allow obvious punctures. Type Serdyukov, Colonels of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB with a billion rubles and bucks ..... etc.
                        Each mistake of the authorities will swing and now it’s impossible to conceal.
                        When the power system is healthy and stable, it calmly resists external influences.
                      2. Pete mitchell 29 May 2020 12: 31 New
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                        The fact that the authorities have not learned how to work with the public and unprincipledly cover up “their own people” is impossible to disagree with, there is enough news to understand this. Elite no, that's why there’s no one to choose from, any punks got through. Remember how the English lawn is grown: equal, care for it carefully, and so 300 years ....
        2. Pete mitchell 28 May 2020 13: 37 New
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          Quote: Mudavius
          Then he declared that oil would be sold for the national currency ..

          If you will, Gaddafi thought more globally: he promoted the idea of ​​creating and introducing pan-Arab currency gold dinar as a currency for oil trading by all Arab countries. They certainly didn’t forgive him this ...
          1. dzvero 28 May 2020 16: 51 New
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            It was because of the golden dinar that the French engaged in the overthrow of Gaddafi. After all, their full colonial CFA franc (and the corresponding income of the Bank of France) was scheduled for a full paragraph.
            By the way, on the fifth day, the French realized that they themselves weren’t "blundered" and began to tearfully beg the Americans to fit in for them smile
            1. Zaurbek 29 May 2020 07: 58 New
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              I think there is something deeper. The golden ruble-dollar-dinar is utopia.
              1. dzvero 29 May 2020 08: 17 New
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                The reasons are complex, there are oil and water ... Libya turned into a serious regional player. As for the gold dinar - at one time they said that they would introduce it within a year; the gold reserve was accumulated (then disappeared along with the foreign exchange reserve smile ) No wonder France has become the ringleader of the overthrow.
                By the way, the Libyan campaign showed that Europeans lack the strength and resources to fight even in such conditions for more than a week.
    2. donavi49 28 May 2020 08: 07 New
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      Generally incorrect.

      There is a PNS - it is recognized by the UN (including Russia). Sarraj even rode to Moscow. In fact, the PNS is like Assad, in the international legal and legal sense.
      There is Tobruk - the government recognizes only the UAE.
      There is Haftar, who formally submitted to the government in Tobruk. But recently, he said that the government is not needed and he is his own king. Haftar just as a leader has not yet been recognized by the UAE.
      1. anzar 28 May 2020 11: 45 New
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        In fact, the PNS is like Assad, in the international legal and legal sense.
        There is Tobruk - the government recognizes only the UAE.

        Wrong. In Tripoli, only the government. Parliament- (fled) in Tobruk- also int. recognized.
        There is Haftar, who formally submitted to the government in Tobruk. But recently ...

        There is no government in Tobruk, there is parliament. In this citizen. In the war, external players support one of two internationally recognized parties. And Haftar is formally no one to be recognized by the OAU.
      2. CSKA 28 May 2020 13: 33 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        There is a PNS - it is recognized by the UN (including Russia). Sarraj even rode to Moscow. In fact, the PNS is like Assad, in the international legal and legal sense.

        Yes, but no one except Turkey and Qatar supports them.
        Quote: donavi49
        There is Tobruk - the government recognizes only the UAE.

        Well, actually they also have support from Egypt, Algeria, Sudan and many other countries.
      3. neri73-r 28 May 2020 13: 36 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        In fact, the PNS is like Assad, in the international legal and legal sense.

        No way. How Assad could only be Gaddafi or, at his death, a member of his government. Saraj, if applied to Syria, is the head of the nusra, who quarrels with the head of the igilah, when both win under the same flag over Assad.
    3. 2я19 28 May 2020 08: 35 New
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      Medvedev did not have Crimea when they killed Libya and Gaddafi.
    4. Roman123567 28 May 2020 09: 51 New
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      If there were Russian planes, first there would be an invitation (official) of one of the parties. Then - consideration with us. Then ... Failure. There is no legal government in Libya.


      In the Donbass, too, there was no official invitation .. and consideration .. and a legitimate government ..
      But weapons and vacationers were ..
      1. neri73-r 28 May 2020 13: 38 New
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        Quote: Roman123567
        If there were Russian planes, first there would be an invitation (official) of one of the parties. Then - consideration with us. Then ... Failure. There is no legal government in Libya.


        In the Donbass, too, there was no official invitation .. and consideration .. and a legitimate government ..
        But weapons and vacationers were ..

        Do not lie, there was and is not. If there are citizens of Russia in the Donbass and in Lugansk, then they do not represent the latter! Alas, yours do not dance.
    5. pereselenec 28 May 2020 10: 47 New
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      Quote: Ilya-spb

      Now, if Medvedev had eggs ... when they destroyed Gaddafi. Then history would go the other way.


      You decide: either Medvedev is the subject of politics, then the incredible success of Russia in the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX is his merit as Commander-in-Chief, or Medvedev is only a puppet, warmed up Putin's place, then the surrender of Gaddafi on the conscience of the GDP.
      1. Zaurbek 28 May 2020 12: 46 New
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        If it is just as successful in fighting as in Georgia, then in the case of the country, for the most part, we will be left without aviation.
      2. CSKA 28 May 2020 13: 35 New
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        Quote: pereselenec
        then the surrender of Gaddafi on the conscience of GDP.

        Nobody handed over anyone. We did not have any alliances with Libya, nor a base there, nor any agreements.
        1. pereselenec 28 May 2020 14: 36 New
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          Quote: CSKA
          Nobody handed over anyone. We did not have any alliances with Libya, nor a base there, nor any agreements.


          Then it means that nobody handed over Milosevic either. We did not have any alliances with Serbia, nor a base there, nor any agreements.
          1. CSKA 28 May 2020 15: 32 New
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            Quote: pereselenec
            Then it means that nobody handed over Milosevic either. We did not have any alliances with Serbia, nor a base there, nor any agreements.

            Of course I didn’t. Is it that we have a Russian tradition of harnessing for anyone who is not in possession of America? Tomorrow the US and North Korea will unleash a war, too, we immediately need to get in? You only need to wave your saber, but you’re unlikely to go to war.
    6. CSKA 28 May 2020 13: 30 New
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      Quote: Ilya-spb
      Now, if Medvedev had eggs ... when they destroyed Gaddafi. Then history would go the other way.

      And what was the RF supposed to do then? Did we have an allied treaty with Libya? No. so what the hell were we supposed to harness for Gaddafi? He himself began to play friendships with the EU and the USA, and he paid for it himself. Instead of giving up oil development to the Russian Federation and China, Europeans were introduced there. Instead of actively rearmament in modern armament for the past 20 years, he thought that he had reached an agreement with the West. Instead of proposing to lay out the bases of the Russian Federation and China in Libya, he decided that he was a very independent player. I would have done everything right, not the RF; the PRC would not have allowed this to happen.
    7. NEOZ 28 May 2020 14: 18 New
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      Quote: Ilya-spb
      there is a puppet government

      and which government is not puppet? What do you mean by this term?
    8. NEOZ 28 May 2020 14: 24 New
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      Quote: Ilya-spb
      Now, if Medvedev had eggs ... when they destroyed Gaddafi. Then history would go the other way.

      for example what? Give your analysis forecast for that period.
  • svp67 28 May 2020 05: 54 New
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    Like the author’s thoughts in the article get confused ...
    Declaring
    For too long, Russia has denied any involvement in the conflict, but now it is useless.

    He immediately begins to talk about a possible “Belarusian trace”
    1. Let's just wait. If we were announced the "gun in the first act", then it will certainly shoot ... If it, of course, hangs on the stage ...
      1. Normal ok 28 May 2020 13: 32 New
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        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Let's just wait. If we were announced the "gun in the first act", then it will certainly shoot ... If it, of course, hangs on the stage ...

        I agree 100%. And then, how many times there were arguing hoarsely proving the correctness of the official version of the Kremlin, and then it suddenly changed. It is better not to rush with the estimates and see what will happen next.
        1. NEOZ 28 May 2020 14: 25 New
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          Quote: Normal ok
          how many times they argued until hoarseness proving the correctness of the official version of the Kremlin, and then it suddenly changed.

          give examples, I don’t remember something ...
    2. knn54 28 May 2020 08: 02 New
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      The United States, as the media wrote, including “VO” is not profitable for a victory of one of the parties. Libyan oil export may bring down prices on the world market.
      Given the presence of MiG-21, MiG-29, Su-27 aircraft, as well as Mi-2, Mi-8, Mi-24 helicopters and even An-2 transport aircraft, it can be assumed that the Yankees, through intermediaries, delivered, for example, MiG- 29. And make a noise.
      A long-standing "tradition", however.
      How to kill lured politicians and journalists who are out in circulation, while blaming the authorities. And you don’t need to feed and political dividends are earned.
      1. svp67 28 May 2020 09: 41 New
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        Quote: knn54
        The United States, as the media wrote, including “VO” is not profitable for a victory of one of the parties. Libyan oil export may bring down prices on the world market.

        Russia such a state of affairs, the same as it is not entirely profitable, do not you?
    3. Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 May 2020 08: 49 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Like the author’s thoughts in the article get confused ...
      Declaring
      For too long, Russia has denied any involvement in the conflict, but now it is useless.

      This was not stated by the author, but by the head of AFRICOM, General Stephen Townsend.
  • Break through 28 May 2020 06: 20 New
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    It would be better if the UAE bought Haftaru Point U rockets and Iskander export than old planes.
  • Revolver 28 May 2020 06: 29 New
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    Ichtamnet. However, if the Ihtamnet are bombed by the Turks, no one except Erdogan will cry. Erdogan trampled too many calluses to expect sympathy from anyone.
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      Quote: Nagan
      Ichtamnet. However, if the Ihtamnet are bombed by the Turks, no one except Erdogan will cry.

      are there any raids on them?
  • certero 28 May 2020 06: 30 New
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    It’s clear that the matter is dark. But if private military companies also get aviation ...
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich 28 May 2020 07: 33 New
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      ... then it will be an invention, if PMCs have enough money for planes.
      1. novel66 28 May 2020 09: 33 New
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        airplanes - half-troubles, service staff, kerosene and ammunition, trained pilots (although this is easier, you can hire a va, but they can’t have small raids right away for work)
        1. Nyrobsky 28 May 2020 11: 32 New
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          Quote: novel xnumx
          airplanes - the trouble, service staff, kerosene and ammunition, trained pilots (although it’s easier with this, you can hire a vna, but they have small raids right away for work)
          Ukrainian pilots carried weapons to both Haftaru and Saraji, until two Ukrainian transporters were burned with a weekly difference in Libya. Last year, the HNA Haftara dropped a PNS force plane and captured a pilot who turned out to be a Belgian. So yes, there are all kinds of creatures in pairs, without principles and stupidly working for money.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich 28 May 2020 11: 44 New
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            At the forehead karma such and yours and ours, for a penny, we’ll dance. No wonder ...
    2. Normal ok 28 May 2020 13: 40 New
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      Quote: certero
      It’s clear that the matter is dark. But if private military companies also get aviation ...

      Private they are only on newsprint. Legally they are not at all lol In reality, this is only an instrument of one of the "offices." Like "Air America" ​​in Vietnam.
  • Santa Fe 28 May 2020 06: 31 New
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    As they said in Soviet times: do not make hasty conclusions, wait for the official refutation from the Moscow Region

    Then you can be sure of sending our military to participate in the conflict abroad
  • rotmistr60 28 May 2020 06: 44 New
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    airplanes are only a formal reason for accusations and threats. In the absence of a MiG-29 or Su-24 deployed, any other actions — or even inaction — could become a similar reason.
    It is hard to disagree with the author. As they say - there would be a desire, but there is a reason. It is interesting that at first the Americans began to sing about Russian airplanes in Libya, then there was information that these planes would strike a Turkish cargo ship and a warship. What is not a reason for another tear between Turkey and Russia? And it is profitable just to those who raised this wave.
  • rocket757 28 May 2020 06: 51 New
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    The more turbidity around, the less someone will have the opportunity to figure out what is happening there.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich 28 May 2020 07: 31 New
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    Pictures of some sort of airplanes are not proof. And in general, ,, they are not there, Maybe these are charters, tourists are transported. What is not the version for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs? .. After all, in the Donbass, there is no Civil War? .. And in the pristine colony, there is no fascism.
  • donavi49 28 May 2020 08: 10 New
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    Here are some fresh photos, with location, now not from Afrikom, but from private traders. Nevertheless, in the 21st century it is impossible to transport something and hide. Enough to raise the hype and private traders all nafot.



    1. V.I.P. 28 May 2020 08: 22 New
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      And what is this, screenshots from a computer game or what?
      1. V.I.P. 28 May 2020 08: 40 New
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        From a regular phone, Yandex is a navigator, and then the pictures are similar to the pictures where even cars and windows of houses are visible. And there are no planes to consider
      2. donavi49 28 May 2020 08: 41 New
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        This is a private operator of ImageSat International. They take photos on demand, for any reason.

        Use the satellite Eros-NG.



    2. prior 28 May 2020 08: 39 New
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      In the photo of the Su-34 it is especially clearly visible that the sky and air around the aircraft are Libyan.
  • GMM
    GMM 28 May 2020 08: 35 New
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    Definitely, ours are not there!
    This is either Photoshop, or Hollywood, or the Americans assembled our equipment from the parts purchased on the market ...

    And what is surprising in this moment, for some reason they prove to each other that ours is not there, a group of unknown commentators, hidden under stupid nicknames and avatars, on an unknown site ...

    The question is, why spend so much effort and energy if this is not important to anyone?

    Well, you can still start the conversation that we all won, outwitted with our next multi-trip plan, but the truth is in the long term.
    And the results cannot be seen either by me or by anyone, the prospect is too distant ...
    1. Rakovor 28 May 2020 09: 51 New
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      What did Sim opus mean, sickly?
      1. GMM
        GMM 28 May 2020 10: 03 New
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        Comrade Rakovor comes to his home, catches a peasant in the closet and begins to lament.
        - He's not there...
        - It's not him...
        - What is your evidence ...
        - It can't be ...
        - They want to set me up ...
        - This is not my closet ...
        - This is not my apartment ...
        - Not a man in the closet ...
        - The man is not mine ...
        - I'm not a man ...
        - He did not sleep with my wife ...
        - I do not have a wife..
        - I'm not the wife of this man ....
        - I'm not me and not my woman ...
        This is approximately what an attempt by you and your friends to say that our people are not in Libya looks like.
        1. Rakovor 28 May 2020 10: 04 New
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          Go to bed, maybe it’s easier.))
  • EvilLion 28 May 2020 09: 18 New
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    US intelligence might not have made statements about repainting on Khmeinim, simply because if you made a statement that is obviously stupid in something, then most likely your whole statement is stupid in everything.
  • Igor Pa 28 May 2020 09: 29 New
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    In the warriors! Announced an air operation
  • List 28 May 2020 11: 41 New
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    [media = https: //news.rambler.ru/army/44255035-boytsy-rossiyskoy-chvk-nachali-pokidat-liviyu/] Fighters of the Russian private military company (PMC) Wagner arrived at the Bani Walid airfield in Libya "Rambler." Video link. At PMCs even ILs are available. We just did not manage to repaint them.
    1. iouris 28 May 2020 13: 16 New
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      PMCs do not have nationality.
  • iouris 28 May 2020 13: 15 New
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    Che, so far the identifiers have not determined the nationality of the aviation forces in Libya? Well well!
  • Kushka 28 May 2020 15: 35 New
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    Quote: V.I.P.
    And what is this, screenshots from a computer game or what?

    I read in the 80s (maybe embellished) that Brokeback did not give money
    Roscosmos-earn the currency yourself. Just at that time of the Olympics,
    not in the USA, not in Canada. Local attended cards for tourists.
    It turned out that Roskosmos and LOMO had the best offer and they
    got this contract. Color, high resolution, detailed
    cards, cars could distinguish numbers, not to mention
    about billboards (at night the car was fixed for about an hour after
    engine stop). Then these cards were in all telephone booths,
    printed on t-shirts and they were all Olympic and tourist
    charms and all this was sold in huge quantities. So it was
    40 years ago!
    1. ender 28 May 2020 16: 53 New
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      Can I see at least one such card now?
      1. Kushka 28 May 2020 17: 28 New
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        Just remembered. Everyone remembers, then Energy hung,
        (and what didn’t hang out under Humpback?) Well, there was such a victory
        material in the press - about a successful commercial project
        Soviet space department and LOMO (and LOMO
        really highly quoted in the world). I forgot which one
        Olympics, but it seems after all, Canada. I remember that this
        other companies performed the work, but such a high
        permission was not obtained and the organizers chose the Soviet
        partner. I think ours as always cheapened, and the bourgeois
        and spent repelled and earned on the Olympic boom
        well, they know how - assortment, circulation, sales skills.
  • NF68 28 May 2020 15: 57 New
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    They just flew south to the sea.
  • Sancho_SP 28 May 2020 21: 12 New
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    And no one asked why the fighters were mainly deployed? Moreover, not the Su-27, which with grief in half can do something on the ground, namely the Mig-29, which are almost exclusively interceptors?
  • Eroma 29 May 2020 00: 51 New
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    No photos, clipping from a magazine! Specialists do not know the geography: “flew to Iran, to the border with Syria” fool Iran does not border Syria!

    And the planes are completely from Iran, they may be, from Iraqi carriers in Iran, exactly such planes were
    1. iouris 29 May 2020 11: 49 New
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      And now the "debriefing" (small)
      1) [quote = Eroma] no reason [/ quote]
      2) [/ quote] from Iraqi haulers [/ quote]
      3) [quote = Eroma] Iran does not border Syria! [/ Quote]
      4) [quote = Eroma] mugut [/ quote]
      How right? They asked - we answer (and find seven differences):
      1) about nothing
      2) from Iraqi defectors
      3) Iran does not border Syria!
      4) may
      1. Eroma 29 May 2020 20: 46 New
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        Are you probably a professor? all you need to answer deployed what

        A photo of a plane flying somewhere, without identification of the aircraft photographing it and without reference to the place of shooting and the direction of the flight, that does not mean anything! Because you can take any photo from the magazine and, on this basis, blame anyone for anything! no

        Iran can also provide MiG29 and Su24 aircraft to Haftar, as he has a similar technique. During the Desert Storm, a number of them were surpassed by Iraqi defector pilots. And it’s most convenient for Iran to send planes to Libya, especially since the Haftar’s allies are at the same time in good relations with Iran! bully

        The “specialist” describing the flight of airplanes, allegedly from Russia through Iran, shows his illiteracy, claiming that the airplanes landed in Iran, not far from the border with Syria, because Iran does not border Syria! This means that the article is adjusted to a certain point of fusion, through the manipulation of terms, counting on the illiteracy of the audience. lol

        Am I clearly explaining? hi
  • Kushka 29 May 2020 11: 51 New
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    Well, they have questions! He wrote SAMOlet!
    There is a cuckoo flying 12 thousand km through 16 countries
    and the Indian Ocean from South Africa to Mongolia! Saw
    photo - original, not repainted.
    So then a cuckoo, and then a jet SAMOlet.
    Well stupid ....