On the chipization of the population, surveillance and the "digital concentration camp"

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On the chipization of the population, surveillance and the "digital concentration camp"

One of the topics that has been discussed with particular urgency lately is related to the introduction of artificial intelligence in the life of Russians. When considering this topic, those discussing it are divided into two irreconcilable groups. The former believe that the introduction of artificial intelligence is designed to facilitate and make life more comfortable for everyone, while others are convinced that everything goes to total control of a person, when there will no longer be individual freedom.

On the side of those who believe that our lives are being transferred to the so-called “digital concentration camp”, there is Igor Shnurenko, a writer who calls himself an expert in the field of artificial intelligence (AI).



Shnurenko raises the question of how to recover from the coronavirus voluntarily-forced applications are installed on smartphones that allow tracking the activities of the owner of the smartphone.

Shnurenko:

As soon as you install this application, you have to prove your innocence, and in constant mode.

Today, among other things, the topic of “chipization” of the population is being actively considered. And here there are those who believe that all of us will be put on chips with the tracking function, and those who attribute the first to a panic-catching wave.
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    1. +3
      27 May 2020 16: 32
      And about the 5g towers that distribute the cove, the expert said nothing. smile
      1. -4
        27 May 2020 16: 36
        Well, each in his own way goes crazy laughing It’s interesting that he himself thought of this dope or suggested who of the curators laughing
        1. -3
          27 May 2020 19: 16
          Apparently under the influence of heavy drugs.
      2. 0
        27 May 2020 16: 42
        You're wrong. 5G base stations do not distribute cove, they are chip. High-speed population chipping. One hope for a foil hat.
        1. Cat
          -1
          27 May 2020 16: 46
          One hope for a foil hat.

          Castrol is more reliable - banderlogs guarantee
        2. +18
          27 May 2020 16: 51
          Those who push "QR codes" and "chipping" had "worthy" teachers:
          1. +12
            27 May 2020 16: 59
            Is very similar.
          2. -16
            27 May 2020 17: 03
            Erase the number in your passport. At the same time, SNILS and TIN in the toilet flush. A license plate number on a car does not bother you? What about your mobile number?
            1. +19
              27 May 2020 17: 08
              If you like being chipped like cattle or a dog, your choice, do not force this on me. I know perfectly well who pushes the chip and why. Passport and other documents are identification cards for certain purposes. The chip is a BEHAVIOR REGULATOR.
              1. -15
                27 May 2020 17: 12
                See less Ren-TV. If you are interested, then your behavior will be adjusted without any chips. You cannot take advantage of progress and be free from its side effects. How to make, suggest, or google yourself a foil hat?
                1. +2
                  27 May 2020 19: 26
                  And go through this pretty curious reference, and then we'll talk.
                  https://ruskline.ru/analitika/2011/02/08/forsajtproekt_detstvo_2030
                2. +3
                  27 May 2020 20: 24
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  See less Ren-TV. If you are interested, then your behavior will be adjusted without any chips.

                  I don't always agree with you, but in this case you are absolutely right. How to enjoy all the benefits of modern society, so everyone is "for". And as soon as you say that you will have to pay for this without your will, everyone is immediately outraged. There is only one way out - to the taiga and how Agafya Lykova to live in harmony with nature, and then no chipping will threaten. But there are no people who want to repeat her life path - that's the whole story.
                  1. -3
                    27 May 2020 23: 12
                    Quote: ccsr
                    what you have to pay for it

                    Are you in yourself? We do not receive "benefits" now in Creed, we pay for them primo now. And everything works without chips. The official who provides me the service does it with my taxes. So what else should I pay for, and with my own will?
                    1. +1
                      28 May 2020 11: 26
                      Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                      Are you inside

                      In yourself, in yourself - all your "data" back in Soviet times could have been obtained with the help of technical means, and if you were of serious interest to the special services, they would have unearthed whom your grandmother could have met before marriage.
                      Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                      .The official who provides me the service does this on my taxes.

                      By and large, the official at all spit on you, and if you are of any interest as a carrier of confidential information, it will be either special services, or bandits, or competitors, or tax authorities. For everyone else, you are just an identification number in SNILS and no more.
                      Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                      So why should I pay, moreover, of my own free will?

                      For example, for the fact that you don’t even need to go to the bank to pay 95% of purchases and services with a bank card or bank payments without using cash.
                      1. +2
                        28 May 2020 13: 44
                        Quote: ccsr
                        back in Soviet times it was possible to get using technical means

                        When, for example, drugs can be obtained anyway, or when a courier brings them freely, 2 big differences. We are not talking about the very possibility of obtaining data, it is about the ease of obtaining them, their accessibility. It’s one thing when an uncle official, if you wish, having spent strength, can reach you alone, and it’s quite another thing when he can reach millions, with a couple of clicks on the keyboard.

                        Example. He announces the authority, say, of keeping serfdom in Russia. People take to the streets, not authorized.

                        There is no digital concentration camp. What can power do today? Close a couple of hundred activists and fine (from 15 thousand rubles, if Che) those whom the guardsmen are pulled out of the crowd (a couple of thousand citizens, by force). The rest of these fines will not even be noticed, remaining in their mass anonymous protesters, and continue to buzz. The authorities will have only one option - to soften the adopted law on serfdom, considering, for example, St. George's Day.
                        There is a digital concentration camp. What can power do then? Yes, stupidly according to the law already existing, solder from 15 tr. a fine to everyone who leaves home that day, automatically removing this amount from people's bank cards. This is comparable to the salary of many of our citizens. Many of them will come out again tomorrow, risking leaving themselves and their family without food at all?

                        The first thing that Sobyanin worked under the guise of a coronovirus was automatic fines to the masses of people. There was no talk of automatic mass assistance.
                        1. 0
                          28 May 2020 14: 02
                          Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                          The first thing that Sobyanin worked under the guise of a coronovirus was automatic fines to the masses of people.

                          Take your time - the wave of ships is yet to come, so it is still unknown how this will end. By the way, I support fines for those who have spit on others, and as a carrier of coronavirus, instead of sitting on isolation, I started walking around Moscow. I don’t feel sorry for them, and I’m satisfied that they began to beat such scumbags with the ruble with considerable fines.
                          By the way, the arrival of fines for video recording cameras for traffic violations does not bother you? By the way, they will also be written off from debtor cards, and this is correct, because I myself immediately pay such fines.
                        2. +2
                          28 May 2020 17: 45
                          Quote: ccsr
                          the arrival of fines for video recording cameras for traffic violations do not bother you?

                          How embarrassing! From a tool to ensure the security of DD, it has turned into a fiscal tool. Read the reports on the expansion in Moscow of this system. There are solid rubles - they say, that year they earned so much, in this this is so much more, oh well done! Give system expansion and profits!
                        3. 0
                          28 May 2020 17: 53
                          Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                          Give system expansion and profits!

                          "The collapse of the USSR opened the world to the savage grin of capitalism." (from)
                          Sobyanin is a drummer of capitalist labor, so that he acts in accordance with the guidelines, and the Muscovites themselves chose him.
                        4. +2
                          28 May 2020 19: 08
                          Quote: ccsr
                          capitalism

                          For some reason, there are citizens who believe that if something fits into the capitalist model of the world and is subject to the laws of the "free market", then this is, a priori, normal, because the USSR no longer exists and all that. This is a trauma from the 90s and it's time to get rid of it. The developed capitalist countries do not live according to the laws of the bare market; they quite use state instruments of regulation that are not market-based when it comes to social security, security, sovereignty and the like. And this is not surprising, because you have to be completely headless in order not to understand that the ideal social system for a market system is slaveholding, and therefore, using it to regulate some (not all) economic issues, this system should not be allowed into other spheres. It's time for our crippled 90s to understand this and stop responding to the demand for social justice with only sighs about the USSR.
                        5. -2
                          28 May 2020 14: 40
                          Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
                          Example. He announces the authority, say, of keeping serfdom in Russia. People take to the streets, not authorized.

                          ===
                          ) an example from a series, as in Novodvorskaya. dream (unfulfilled) - to throw off the dungeons of the KGB
                        6. +1
                          28 May 2020 17: 31
                          It is by no means impossible to say that in our country (however, as elsewhere) there are citizens who are in power and see how to increase the welfare of the people. The "elite", of course, dearer their interests. It is obvious that the interests of the "elite" often come into conflict with the interests of the "masses". Then the authorities have to make so-called unpopular decisions. Any unpopular decisions the "elite", do not be fools, takes with an eye to the reaction and possibilities of the "broad masses". If these possibilities are untilled by something and this reaction can be extinguished by something, then an unpopular decision can be dragged through, if not, then it is worth delaying. It is foolish in such a situation not to use such a powerful tool as a "digital concentration camp" (if it will be implemented in the end) to level the opportunities and extinguish the reaction of the "masses". Moreover, universal fines for protests are just one of many possible uses.
                          Everything is constant and logical. Unfortunately.
              2. +3
                27 May 2020 22: 46
                Quote: Snail N9
                your choice, do not force this on me

                Yeah. Their main argument is that it will be more comfortable. Well Duc comfort to impose on others is stupid, really. Live yourself in your "comfort", and we might want to build our life in a Spartan way, without numbers and chips.
                The same public services. It all started with convenience for citizens. And what is it turning into? These government services now exist more and more in order to notify you of whom and how much you owe. On the main page there are huge counters - there are so many nologs with you, so many fines. All! Do you really want a service from the state? After submitting everything electronically, it will be more convenient for officials, they will consider the month, and then they will assign you the exact day when it is convenient for them, not for you. Did not have time on this day? Come on in a new way. It’s easier to come up with papers in the old fashioned way without any public services (since you still need to go personally and still stand the turn), but then come when it’s convenient for you.
                To entrust such power (total control) over yourself and your loved ones with this, believing in a word to them that this is only for our own good - are you really holding people foolish?
              3. +9
                28 May 2020 01: 00
                My friend, in my opinion, is more prosaic. let's take it in order. I’ll make a reservation, no one will like being under someone’s cap, but alas, when it comes from outside, we are outraged, and when we do it voluntarily, we don’t notice. So: almost everyone has an ID number in a social network. Who will surprise you now that you have an account, OK, FB, VK, Instagram, twitter, etc. When we check in there, we’ll also enter your mobile number. When buying a SIM card, we draw it up with a passport, which means that registration data also becomes known. Move on. if you have a smartphone, then in any case, a person installs at least some application. Now any application asks for access to contacts, or to photos, etc., otherwise it will not be installed. Again we go further. Having bought a modern smartphone, almost everyone is invited to use a fingerprint scanner. Guess three times, will this fingerprint fly where you need it or not?) You don’t even have to go to the department)) Still: at least once someone wondered why, out of the noise, they started releasing smartphones with a battery sealed in the case? Did you know that if you turn off your smartphone and it seems to you that now you’ll get a hell out of me, it’s possible that you’ll see a picture of an extinguished screen, that's just a picture for you, whereas in fact, your device will switched on! Naturally for whom it is necessary. But where you yourself could remove the back cover and remove the battery without asking you, just like that, well, like by chance, they stopped selling or releasing such smartphones. Therefore, when I personally hear or read about chipping forcibly, I want to say only one thing: my dears, you yourself did not suspect that you have already merged all that you could, and for a long time.
                This is called the Overton window. Step by step, step by step, the reality is changing imperceptibly and at the same time, under the guise of under the guise of technological progress, we have all been sucked in by different gadgets with programs where we, with saliva at our mouths, with a squeal of pigs, rejoice at new-fashioned toys and voluntarily we merge information about ourselves. Something like this.
              4. +4
                28 May 2020 05: 19
                Have you heard that chipping is "pushed through"? I personally don't. I think panic is premature. As for the digitalization of the economy, this is another matter, for me personally, there are still only advantages; For two years now I have not personally paid the rent - the bank does it for me. I pay everywhere with a card - it's very convenient. Dissatisfaction with digitalization, as I've heard, comes from the bourgeoisie and the liberals serving them. It would seem something bad, they are also convenient and more comfortable - the fuss with the calculations of everything goes away - when the petty bourgeois had to maintain a special accountant, as I had the opportunity to observe many times. However, here at Norkin one liberal woman let slip - the business from digitalization, in her words, has become "transparent". She said and was embarrassed - here I am, oh, what did I say! Well, yes, transparent - that is, it has become more difficult to hide income from taxes and pay salaries in an envelope. They start to sing - it's impossible to pay such huge taxes. I can compare with German orders. The total amount of social taxes per employee there is about the same with us. But there they made such a trick that the entrepreneur pays the employee a large salary due to the fact that the employee partially pays for health insurance and the full contribution to the pension fund. In our country, an entrepreneur pays an employee a small salary, but pays for him in full to social programs. I don't know which is better.
            2. +8
              27 May 2020 17: 34
              There is a big difference between the data in disparate databases that are difficult to relate to each other, and a single database where everyone will have a unique ID.
              1. -4
                27 May 2020 17: 47
                Linking databases is easy. MFC and public services, as an example.
                1. +7
                  27 May 2020 17: 54
                  For an amateur, everything always looks simple.
                  1. -4
                    27 May 2020 17: 58
                    What's so difficult is to oblige all departments and institutions to merge information into one data center. Analyze and personalize Old, also presents no difficulties. This has almost been done without any chipping.
                    1. +4
                      27 May 2020 18: 39
                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      What's so difficult is to oblige all departments and institutions to merge information into one data center. Analyze and personalize Old, also presents no difficulties. This has almost been done without any chipping.

                      It all existed before the mob. phones and the Internet ... For every citizen there was a daddy ... I got into the police or a note to serious comrades, served in the army, graduated from high school, college, worked somewhere ... Everything was filed and laced up. The archives kept this data ... Everyone was under a cap .. And it doesn’t matter if he lived in the USSR or the USA.
                      1. 0
                        27 May 2020 18: 50
                        And I mean the same thing. What is the difference in what form the information about you is stored: in analog or digital? We have all been counted and inventory long ago. What to fear, I can’t imagine.
                        1. -2
                          27 May 2020 23: 26
                          Identity documents are presented by a member of society only for important actions necessary for valid confirmation of a person's identity, that is, for: change-registration of acts of civil status, admission to security facilities, border crossing, some banking operations, payment of taxes and fines - all That is the number such actions performed in the course of his life are relatively small and does not require the constant carrying of these documents, they are needed only when a citizen performs actions that require these documents. And chipping involves finding a chip constantly with a citizen, always and everywhere, and this chip will be exchanged with reading-scanning devices WITHOUT YOUR LEADING. Can't you tell the difference? That is, these readers can be installed absolutely anywhere and the chip will exchange data with them, and the one who installed these readers will know everything about your actions, your movement, etc., and WITHOUT YOUR LEADING. Moreover, this "someone" can install blocking devices that, at the whim of this "someone", having identified your chip, will automatically deprive you of a certain freedom of action, restrict freedom of movement, the ability to make purchases and you will not even be able to buy food for yourself in the store or in general, they will erase you from the database and you will lose everything - you will be "nobody" and you will be called "no way". Haven't you read Orwell's novel? And even Orwell, this is exactly what is happening now in China. With universal chipping and access everywhere on chips, even a prison is not needed, you can control a person's actions so that he will have access only to limited functions available in society and differentiate access to the benefits of society according to the notorious "color gradation of pants" ...
                        2. 0
                          28 May 2020 11: 40
                          Quote: Snail N9
                          A chip implies finding the chip constantly with a citizen-always and everywhere, moreover, this chip will be exchanged with reading-scanning devices WITHOUT YOUR SLAVE. Can't you catch the difference?

                          Nobody will chip you forcibly - this will be done of their own free will by those who do not want to carry identification documents.
                          But the point is not even in this procedure, but in the fact that right now the banks identify the voice and record it in digital form, and a huge number of video cameras easily recognize a person by facial features. And all this will grow and increase, which means that even if you do not have a computer and any gadgets, you will still be calculated and added to the databases if you wish. First, as a conditionally indefinite personality, and then with the help of home video cameras they will calculate where you live, and then they will find out everything about you through the passport office or home books in the EIRC.
                      2. +1
                        28 May 2020 18: 20
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        It all existed before the mob. phones and the Internet ... For every citizen there was a daddy ...

                        This is a strong exaggeration, because then not everyone was taken into account. And here’s what came out of this even in military counterintelligence:
                        ... Naturally, the military does not have the right to deprive civilians of their liberty, and therefore, in such situations, they are obliged to inform the special police officer or transfer the detainee to police officers, having previously compiled a report on what happened, where all the events are stated with details, including including the person who was detained. Since the duty service of the regiment did not need hemorrhoids with this mushroom picker, he was quickly handed over to the special officer, who apparently felt the “booty” and possibly thought about the upcoming rewards and awards, decided to give the course a go, and proceeded to interrogate professionally and competently. But a bummer came out - the mushroom picker “was dumb”, did not admit to anything, did not consider himself a spy, had no evil intentions and frankly, did not really worry about what had happened, because I didn’t feel much guilt, taking into account the fact that he didn’t see any signs about the borders of the post (most likely they weren’t) - his old army hardening apparently helped many in difficult times. The military counterintelligence officer, realizing that his efforts were going to dust, reported to his duty officer on a special department of the corps, but there was apparently a more experienced operative on duty, and he sent his colleague away when he wanted to bring the detainee to them, because he had to carry the mushroom picker seventy kilometers away. even without documents, nobody wants to, and there was nothing to it, but the attendant clearly didn’t want to send a car for him ....

                        http://zapravdu.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2561&start=80
                2. +3
                  27 May 2020 23: 08
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Linking databases is easy.

                  Insurers (not poor guys) have been unable to impose fines on cameras (for the lack of compulsory motor third-party liability insurance) for many years, purely for technical reasons - they can’t get together disparate bases.
              2. -4
                27 May 2020 18: 00
                You are certainly right, only if you are offered the following choice:
                1)live up to 200-300 years in a state where the government knows what if you drank and how you went to the toilet every day
                2)live 50-70 years in a "free" state
                specifically you what will you choose?

                For the forgetful: I remind you that 30 years ago, people considered infringement of their rights when they came to them from the authorities and asked about their connections, today people can spread all this for free on social networks

                For the dull: when combining the databases, many diseases associated with the difference in nutrition in different countries have already been identified, and many dietary supplements and medicines are just based on studies of anomalies identified by comparing statistics from different countries and regions. Over time, with a further increase in the quantity and quality of collected data, this will allow the creation of complexes of standardized food supplements that extend life. Moreover, the complexes developed for other peoples in other countries will not be suitable for you (this is about giving up ID and buying "pills" abroad).
                1. 0
                  28 May 2020 09: 29
                  laughing With this choice, I would choose option 1. I see no reason to refuse to extend my life 4-6 times in exchange for the fact that if you are interested in special services. Then, an operational worker in option 1 will spend a couple of minutes to obtain exhaustive information. And in the option of 2 weeks, in the worst case, a couple of weeks. laughing
                  1. +1
                    28 May 2020 13: 21
                    HA! you greatly underestimate the intelligence services of leading countries wink Everything is already set up on key issues there. It’s just that this mainly concerns the State Security Council, and not the ordinary police.

                    Yes, and you can give another example without any life expectancy.
                    1) you live in a totalitarian state where all your movements in real time are known, where you can be called on your mobile phone at any time and planted in a 2x2m camera (for example, on the way home from work). But where at the same time your family and friends are alive and well
                    2) you live in a "free" country, and after work you return home, hug your wife, kiss your daughter, and in the morning watch how they spit blood from all cracks and slowly and painfully die, and all because of the fact that in the "free" The country does not have a movement control and biological safety service that called you on the way home and warned you about a possible infection with natural / artificial biological weapons.
                    So what do you choose totalitarianism or freedom? laughing

                    In general, there are a lot of such choices, and many topics are extremely ambiguous, such as birth control, population control, control of genetic drift, etc. BUT, the problem is that scientists, engineers, analysts and other specialists are simply not allowed to discuss such topics normally , "some" constantly appear who do not understand what, why, or why, but at the same time who are heart-rendingly yelling and holivar about this topic in the media.
                    1. +1
                      28 May 2020 20: 28
                      Unfortunately, in reality, the choice is between two types of totalitarian countries. The only difference is that in the first they do not hide it. And in the second, the concealment is set to such a good level that people don’t even think about what they are being watched. And that they themselves do everything voluntarily so that they have absolutely everything known.
                      In the first country, the approach is much more honest than in the second. And the approach in country number two is perfectly described by the phrase from the joke about Chapaev: - And here are the pens. laughing
                      And a little serious about those who are afraid that they will be irradiated with hitherto unseen radiation from base stations of fifth generation networks. We want to allocate a frequency band of 24 GHz for this; I don’t remember exactly. In the same range, cameras detecting overspeeding of 24.050-24.250 GHz and at a frequency of about 25 GHz, motion sensors open doors in stores emit cameras. And emit to put it mildly a very long time. Plus amateur and satellite communications.
              3. 0
                28 May 2020 09: 04
                It is quite possible to tie. And probably already connected.
          3. -6
            27 May 2020 17: 05
            Those who push "QR codes"

            I’m wondering if you know something SECRET there. Why are you writing about QR but not writing anything about regular barcodes? Type QR Satanic and ordinary kosher? belay
            1. +2
              27 May 2020 17: 31
              Here, it’s interesting about QR codes (who, why, etc.):
              https://www.yaplakal.com/go/?https%3A%2F%2Fstorm100.livejournal.com%2F5628858.html
              And also, I like the "chief" coder myself, a nice person, right? The son of the chief prosecutor, the minister of labor and the subject - just like brothers:
              1. 0
                27 May 2020 17: 51
                Here, about QR codes it’s interesting

                Yes, I cried of course just a proof of the proofs. It’s not even Wick, but just a garbage can. You see, if for my simple reason, unlike you, you do not need to read such sources, because I have to write programs that read these codes.

                But I'm not talking about that. I asked WHY YOU ABOUT USUAL BAR CODES DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING,
                And that other is simply FONT invented so that what is written on it can be easily digitized. Why do you choose one font for curses and ignore another?
                1. +1
                  27 May 2020 21: 34
                  Why do you choose one font for curses and ignore another?

                  How sad it is to observe the degradation of the educational level in the Russian Federation. And after all, these individuals (who put down the cons for the obvious fact about the font) claim that they graduated from high school in the USSR. laughing
              2. +1
                27 May 2020 23: 53
                And also, I like the "main" encoder myself, a nice person, right?

                The nature on it is clearly "rested". Yes, and God put the marks.
                The face of his face, that’s so, but his fingers .... give the whole picture. A palm wide in hand and fingers like a circular cut. Here are the takens to power and are eager. Complexes, they are.
            2. -8
              27 May 2020 18: 04
              The TIN generally contains the number of the beast. Hail, Orthodox!
          4. +4
            27 May 2020 20: 01
            Quote: Snail N9
            Those who push "QR codes" and "chipping" had "worthy" teachers:

            Well, here most people are, they think that everyone knows and you won’t be able to spend them on the chaff. About caps made of foil, pots, etc., the ribbon is full of colors. I have a question for these know-it-alls, but are you sure that your hats will help you?
            By the way, there is one interesting material about the previous US president ... About Barack Obama and his wife ... this is especially interesting, remembering that it was this president who legitimized homosexuality and same-sex marriage ...

            This is to ensure that Sodom and Gomor have not disappeared.
      3. 0
        27 May 2020 19: 15
        Another libel from the madhouse.
      4. +1
        27 May 2020 21: 31
        laughing Right Looks like an expert so-so. Hilenky.
      5. 0
        29 May 2020 13: 01

        Well ... or something like that))
    2. +7
      27 May 2020 16: 33
      The Prosecutor General's Office of Russia recognized fake videos on the creation of coronavirus as a bio-weapon for the sake of chipping the population and establishing a global world order. The Office will require Roskomnadzor to block these records.
    3. +7
      27 May 2020 16: 33
      I think that everything is already encrypted, if you want, you can track anyone. Through the same phone. But they’ll definitely vaccinate everyone under this tune .. and in this, in my opinion, there is a danger, given that Gates directly stated that universal vaccination will help get rid of 10-15% of the population .. this video is also in YouTube desire, everyone can see it. And the fact that Gates sponsors WHO and spends lard dollars is also not casual. I’m not against vaccination, but the Soviet one, when everything was clear, but now it’s a reason to think about it. For what vaccine we will inject, it’s not clear where, who produced it and for what kind of kickback they bought .. Hindus, after their children became massively to die, after the Gates vaccine, vaccination from his foundation was generally banned.
      1. -5
        27 May 2020 17: 13
        But they will definitely vaccinate everyone under this tune

        And you do not get vaccinated. Fundamentally. You directly SHOULD refuse with your worldviews.
        Gates bluntly said that universal vaccination will help get rid of 10-15% of the population ..

        Classic fake. Combined 3 excerpts of performance. One is that the Earth is already overpopulated by 15%. The second is that in order to avoid a catastrophe, it is necessary to pursue a correct long-term policy.
        The third is that rapid vaccine development technologies should be part of this policy.
        because it’s not clear what vaccine we inject, where, who produced it and for what kind of kickback they bought ..

        And you are so thoughtless that with all the distrust of the current medicine, you give yourself an injection for some reason? Yeah .... How it all starts.


        For digital control, find a recent interview with Kaspersky. Pandora's box is open ...
    4. -1
      27 May 2020 16: 35
      yes, but how many arguments did antivirals have
    5. +4
      27 May 2020 16: 38
      Naturally, I am not happy with the prospect of being under 100% control.
      But I have some doubts.
      I will share it.
      Yesterday I went to the branch of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.
      Pay utility bills.
      I turned to the girl assistant.
      I inserted the card into the ATM, attached a receipt to the scanner.
      The scanner considered what was needed.
      All data is highlighted.
      I checked them. Everything turned out to be true.
      Paid
      Started working with a second receipt.
      And it all hung.
      Neither there nor back.
      A bagel is spinning on the screen.
      I waited half an hour.
      Not any shifts.
      The card is blocked at the ATM.
      Only an administrator is allowed to open an ATM.
      But she is not.
      And it will be in 2-3 hours.
      Those. not to the store, no where to go.
      Came in 4 hours.
      The card has already been seized.

      Why am I writing?
      The reason for what happened was that there was a power surge. And the system hung.
      And this is in the regional center. And if it happens in the conditionally "Bodaibo"?
      So we are still far from digital slavery.
      1. +2
        27 May 2020 16: 45
        The smartphone is taken. The application of the corresponding bank is installed. You don’t have to go anywhere: all utility bills, taxes, mobile communications, fines, money transfers without leaving the couch.
        1. +9
          27 May 2020 17: 21
          There is no smartphone. I cry everything through the comp. With computers since 1987. Now everything is possible through the computer, even make an appointment with the doctor.
          1. 0
            27 May 2020 18: 48
            With the Spectrum started?
            A smartphone is good because it is always with you. I also pay for gas from the application at gas stations and the phone itself through Google is a means of payment. Conveniently.
            1. +1
              27 May 2020 21: 30
              A smartphone is good because it is always with you.

              In terms of payments, the smartphone is bad because they need TWO.
              You explain why or guess yourself?
            2. 0
              28 May 2020 07: 19
              I am the programmer of the "Iskra-555" EBM. Rather learned to use this car. It worked for half a year and it is outdated.
        2. +4
          27 May 2020 17: 23
          You discovered "America" ​​for me.
          So the reason that I personally stomped into the bank with my legs was serious.

          But I wrote about something else.
          You missed this by your attention. hi
          1. -4
            27 May 2020 17: 57
            You missed this by your attention.

            If about far from slavery, then I did not miss.
            I just don’t see any reason to discuss it, because no one can say what it is.
            About a jump you are 90% deceived. Somehow, look inside the ATM to understand why.
            But you still did not answer the question of why pay a communal apartment through an ATM?
            1. +1
              27 May 2020 20: 16
              If you give me the opportunity, then I will "look" inside the ATM every day.
              I’ll even cancel the weekend. hi
              Only for this "peeping" nothing would have happened to me!
              The question, about the reason, I do not want to put on public display.
              I repeat - it was so necessary.
              1. -4
                27 May 2020 21: 32
                If you give me the opportunity, then I will "look" inside the ATM every day.

                Are you a Muscovite? Then I can send an address where, 2 times a week, you can joyfully watch the giblets of an ATM.
      2. 0
        27 May 2020 16: 57
        Van, change the card to the one that does not need to be pushed into the ATM. What is the problem?
        1. -2
          27 May 2020 17: 30
          Van, change the card to the one that does not need to be pushed into the ATM.

          Maybe a person has not heard about this, maybe they haven’t altered their ATMs yet. BUT THE INTERNET IS THERE, he somehow enters VO.
          1. +4
            27 May 2020 20: 19
            Yes.
            Just arrived from the steppes of Inner Mongolia.
            And before that, he entered the site through the local telephone network for six years.
            It is not worth developing further not interesting topics.
            If a person does not want to pay from his smart background, laptop, etc. - it means so.
            And the card is specially without the possibility of contactless payment.
      3. +1
        27 May 2020 17: 27
        Yesterday I went to the branch of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.
        Pay utility bills.

        I'm lucky about me, I can ask a question directly.
        Why do you even pay through an ATM, and even in a coronavirus? Why not over the internet?
        I haven’t been doing this for 5 FIVE years. For more than a year now I haven’t approached an ATM at all.
      4. 0
        28 May 2020 00: 01
        The reason for what happened was that there was a power surge.

        This is how your blood pressure jump will occur and the microchip will give a signal to set your heart rate to zero, or it will hang in the branching of the algorithm designed for self-destruction of the carrier object ....
        And kirdyk. Hang so that there is no one for you to press "Reset".
        1. +2
          28 May 2020 09: 14
          Quote: DED_peer_DED
          the microchip will give a signal to set your heart rate to zero,

          And the microchip still does not know how. And will not be able to long.
      5. +1
        28 May 2020 09: 34
        When it comes time to reissue the card, order with a radio chip so that you do not have to insert the card anywhere. Although in my opinion they’re just the ones going now.
    6. -5
      27 May 2020 16: 49
      Shnurenko is right, unlike “master” Mikhalkov, who simply rocks the boat.
      1. +12
        27 May 2020 17: 18
        Quote: Sergey39
        Shnurenko is right, unlike “master” Mikhalkov, who simply rocks the boat.

        And the "master" Mikhalkov, what did he say wrong in Besonoga? What is he swinging there? YouTube is full of videos about chipization, Gref, Gates, etc.
        Citizen Pozdner gurgled there towards Mikhalkov ... that's what Zadornov said about Pozdner ..

        In addition, Mikhalkov has one citizenship, like his children ... but individuals like Pozdner, Navalny and others like them have two or three citizenships. And you think that these citizens are about you as a citizen of the Russian Federation will think?
        1. 0
          27 May 2020 19: 06
          Well, what does Posner and Navalny have to do with it?
    7. +8
      27 May 2020 16: 53
      I wanted to write a long koment. Then he changed his mind. When we will have mass-applied high-resolution cameras that can recognize a person from 20 meters away, then we'll talk. In the meantime, the site of the pension fund collapsed, unable to cope with the flow of applications for payments. And where to get resources to store a huge amount of data. And even more so to process. With our Internet speed, a conference for 10 people is problematic. And fines in Moscow are already being canceled, since there is no evidence under them. A relative lawyer in Krasnodar has already won several cases.
    8. +5
      27 May 2020 17: 02
      One topic that has been discussed with particular urgency lately is the introduction of artificial intelligence in the life of Russians. When considering this topic, those discussing it are divided into two irreconcilable groups. The former believe that the introduction of artificial intelligence is designed to facilitate and make life more comfortable for everyone, while others are convinced that everything goes to total control of a person, when there will no longer be individual freedom.

      There is a third group, and it is numerous - these are people who are sure that there will be no chipization for a number of reasons, beginning with the fact that technology has not grown to this and ending with the fact that conspiracy theories are for REN-TV idiots .
      I have a number of questions for everyone ...
      Before that, there were epidemics, not only in America and Eurasia, but also in Africa. By the way, illnesses in Africa are much more deadly and today, two epidemics are operating there simultaneously. Moreover, a total of about 2 million people died. The figure is not an example of coronovirus numbers.
      So in this regard, the question is, why have the world never been quarantined before?
      As for chipization ... well, citizen Gates clearly explained why it is needed and this will be done. There are videos on YouTube with his revelations. Then this new cryptocurrency, patented by Gates, also does not inspire confidence. Who does not know, the Gates Foundation is very equipped in Africa with polio vaccines. Almost half a million children were killed, to understand ... and who says this, what organizations?
      Control over all people, this elite’s wet dream has been for centuries.
      And given the plight of our pharmaceuticals in the Russian Federation, such a vaccine is likely to come from the West, with which if someone forgot we are practically at war.
      But what about us now? In fact, if you look at the damage, the casualties, the panic, and so on, why not war then?
      And in this regard, the issue of chipization is not so fantastic.
      1. -4
        27 May 2020 17: 22
        there will be no chipization for a number of reasons. Starting with the fact that they say technology has not grown

        Andrei, there will be no chipization, because they OVERGROUND them. You are directly naive to disgrace, you are now completely controlled, well, why also insert a chip into you? In order to measure heart rate and blood sugar, well, firstly, it will soon be remotely (they learned the temperature), and secondly, who cares. Your movements, contacts, purchases and sales, your letters and comments - all this is already being written. And all is not in order to make you go in order and vote for power, but in order to make you buy what you need to sell to someone. All anti-terrorism gadgets are secondary.
        1. +2
          27 May 2020 17: 26
          Quote: bk316
          And all this is not in order to make you go in formation and vote for power, but in order to make you buy what you need to sell to someone.

          Do you naively think that the elites who are the OWNERS of money really need this money? Are you serious? They secured themselves for several generations in advance. What kind of beggars do you need them for?
          1. -2
            27 May 2020 17: 33
            What the hell are your poor pennies?

            That you are naive. Billy spends more on VI and AI to promote Microsoft products than on vaccine development. Didn't you know?
            1. +2
              27 May 2020 17: 43
              Quote: bk316
              Billy spends on VI and AI in order to promote products

              Dear Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation, only 2,5 lard of American raccoons swelled in WHO. I'm not talking about the development of drugs bypassing WHO, which are also not cheap. All of this is freely available ...
              1. -2
                27 May 2020 17: 45
                Dear, the Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation swelled 2,5 lard only in WHO

                Yeah, now read carefully
                - for how many years
                - how much money is there exactly Billy
                - What are Microsoft's advertising costs for this period?
                1. +2
                  27 May 2020 17: 47
                  Quote: bk316
                  Yeah, now read carefully
                  - for how many years
                  - how much money is there exactly Billy
                  - What are Microsoft's advertising costs for this period?

                  Yeah ... and you carefully calculate how many left-wing companies, whose legs are growing out of Gates’s affairs, were uploaded to the development of vaccines, viruses, etc. ... and then we'll talk to you.
                  1. +2
                    27 May 2020 21: 28
                    Yeah ... and you carefully calculate how many through the left companies

                    It is impossible to count it can only be believed.
                    And I'm a mathematician and not a fanatic. This is not supposed to be for me. laughing
                    The Soviet university education does not even allow me to discuss the numbers of the beast, satanic QR codes and liquid chips ....
                    1. -1
                      27 May 2020 21: 39
                      Quote: bk316
                      The Soviet university education does not even allow me to discuss the numbers of the beast, satanic QR codes and liquid chips ....

                      Maybe this is your misfortune. What you do not know does not exist!
                      1. -3
                        27 May 2020 21: 46
                        Maybe this is your misfortune.

                        Maybe trouble, maybe happiness.
                        The fact is that the scientific worldview does not get along with faith in devilry.
                        If in one person it is combined, then this is called
                        bipolar personality disorder.
                        Therefore, a person who claims to be a materialist, and at the same time supports all this scales, he
                        or
                        - he lies that he is a materialist
                        any jitters
                        or suffers from bipolar disorder


                        Regarding "you don't know", I think that I know better than any of the VO visitors what QR codes are, I am in some way involved in their creation laughing Well, it’s certainly better than you understand the chips, I can even design them - it was the case. So it’s better about the reactor about your favorite moon tractor ....
                        1. -1
                          28 May 2020 00: 08
                          The fact is that the scientific worldview does not get along with faith in devilry.

                          Taught, trained ... checked by questions - WHO, THAN ...
                        2. -2
                          28 May 2020 13: 33
                          Taught, trained ... checked by questions - WHO, THAN ...

                          Are you talking to me?
                          Than? Yes, the very best Soviet natural science higher education in the world represented by the leading university of the USSR and Moscow State University laughing
                          By whom? I’m afraid the surnames will not say anything to you, well, maybe only Sadovnichy ..... And so we have all the academic disciplines, academicians or member-cores read ....
          2. -4
            27 May 2020 17: 51
            There is not much money.
            1. +5
              27 May 2020 17: 53
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              There is not much money.

              They draw them themselves. Like that Papandopolo ... they are not interested in money.
    9. +3
      27 May 2020 17: 24
      Is it true that the one who receives the chip receives free minutes with the chip?
      1. +1
        27 May 2020 18: 01
        Exactly. But you will have to pay for roaming separately.
      2. 0
        28 May 2020 00: 11
        Is it true that the one who receives the chip receives free minutes with the chip?

        Yes. But there is one condition, if the term of the tariff does not exceed 60 years from the birth of the "subscriber".
        If exceeded, not only minutes, but also years will be reset.
    10. 0
      27 May 2020 17: 27
      Everyone is never vaccinated. There is a minimum percentage required, and they try to adhere to it. And the rest, who like, for various reasons, fall out of the grafted mass.
      1. -1
        27 May 2020 17: 30
        Quote: rocket757
        Everyone is never vaccinated. There is a minimum percentage required, and they try to adhere to it. And the rest, who like, for various reasons, fall out of the grafted mass.

        So after all, no one had previously quarantined the country. So the rules here are completely different. Even from every iron, the heads of state say that the world will be different after the epidemic. And this is not such a turn of speech, but literally everything.
        1. 0
          27 May 2020 17: 41
          So after all, no one had previously quarantined the country.

          Once again, what are you talking about?

          - about what they will introduce to you with the vaccine chip? - then let's stop discussion right away (I advise a foil cap)
          - about the fact that there will be genetic consequences in children - so you seem to be middle-aged. The possibility of this can be discussed.
          - that there may be consequences for the health of those vaccinated. Well, don’t trust abroad, get vaccinated with a vaccine from Vector. Or Chinese. Once again, mindlessly vaccinated, it is unclear what only the INSANELY can do. Each time, it is necessary to determine your risks taking into account the epidemic situation and the vaccine itself. BECAUSE RISK IS ALWAYS. And it doesn’t matter from the crown a flu vaccine or chickenpox.
        2. +3
          27 May 2020 17: 41
          I survived two "cholera" .... but then the Soviet scheme clearly worked out everything as it should.
          And now, in the age of rapid communications, any infection can fly around the planet in the shortest period before the infection is localized.
          Such a time, everything and everything is nearby, quickly!
    11. +12
      27 May 2020 17: 46
      Two cows are talking:
      - You know, it seems to me that they feed us only to drink
      our milk, and then kill and eat ...
      “Yes, give up your stupid conspiracy theory!” And then the whole flock is above you
      will laugh.
      1. +7
        27 May 2020 18: 08
        Two cows are talking:
        - You know, it seems to me that they feed us only to drink
        our milk, and then kill and eat ...
        “Yes, give up your stupid conspiracy theory!” And then the whole flock is above you
        will laugh.

        There is a picture on this topic:
      2. +7
        27 May 2020 18: 38
        Quote: Valter1364
        Two cows are talking:
        - You know, it seems to me that they feed us only to drink
        our milk, and then kill and eat ...
        “Yes, give up your stupid conspiracy theory!” And then the whole flock is above you
        will laugh.

        It is no longer a conspiracy theory, but a FACT OF CONSPIRACY.
        Moreover, people who talk about it, who talk about the shadow government, Satanism at the top and so on ridicule. And why? THE TOP OF THE KNOWLEDGE then it’s understandable why, but why is it for simple people taught by schools? And everything is simple- DO NOT KNOW, MEAN TO LET GOOD. What I don’t see is not there. Right?
        1. +6
          27 May 2020 21: 44
          Absolutely right! The truth can plunge the majority into shock and deep depression. Therefore, it is diluted with all kinds of nonsense and driven through the yellow press and REN TV. After that, the very essence of the truth is distorted and only the most staunch dreamers can believe in it.
          1. +3
            28 May 2020 00: 17
            Quote: Valter1364
            Therefore, it is diluted with all kinds of nonsense and driven through the yellow press and REN TV.

            Voice of America, Svoboda and other "truth-diggers" worked according to the principle "Give 30% of the truth", preferably in small things. This is enough for the masses to swallow 70% of the main bullshit. REN TV works on the same propaganda principle.
    12. +4
      27 May 2020 19: 12
      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Erase the number in your passport. At the same time, SNILS and TIN in the toilet flush. A license plate number on a car does not bother you? What about your mobile number?

      It’s fashionable to get rid of all this. Yes, there will, of course, be inconvenience, but you can live. But do not get rid of the chip.
      1. -5
        27 May 2020 19: 52
        Try living without a passport. Without him you are nobody. And why is the chip so scary? Given that it is possible to read / write data to it, it is possible only with direct contact, as is the case with NFC, and it is easily shielded. But if he saves me from the mass of extra pieces of paper - then this can only be welcomed.
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        2. +2
          27 May 2020 20: 14
          Previously, people believed in pagan gods. Then they were replaced by Christianity. Now people have a new God - Comfort. And, just as before, they are ready in his name to give up independence, from freedom. They are ready to accept without thinking everything that he says and recommends to them.
        3. +3
          27 May 2020 21: 37
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Try living without a passport. Without him you are nobody. And why is the chip so scary? Given that it is possible to read / write data to it, it is possible only with direct contact, as is the case with NFC, and it is easily shielded. But if he saves me from the mass of extra pieces of paper - then this can only be welcomed.

          You don’t even understand what nonsense you are saying. You are like that slave who was given freedom, and he stubbornly goes again to the plantations, into shackles and under the whip.
          You know, I have long since ceased to be afraid of being ridiculed for my thoughts, beliefs and thoughts. There will always be people who will share my opinion, and there will certainly be those who extremely negatively disagree with him. And this is normal. Because everyone has the right to their subjective opinion and view.
          As an example ... Mel Gibson ... the person who starred in the films was at the peak, rich and successful ... and this person says the following ...

          You can not accept it, laugh or think. Everyone makes a choice for himself. For me personally, the very fact that such a person (and he is not alone) suddenly speaks seriously about this, makes me at least think, delve into this issue, understand for myself whether this place can exist at all or not.
          And for me, the question of ADRINOCHROME, after a long study, became more real than at the very beginning. After all, Adrinochrome itself really exists and is the most expensive and potent drug.
          Whether the story is connected with Ebstein, the Pizza Gate with the events of chipping, the epidemic, I don’t know ... I'm still on the way to understanding all this. But ... after all, Ebstein’s business really has a list of him, too.
          1. 0
            27 May 2020 21: 45
            Yes, you have been digitized for a long time, ay! Any of your actions in the network and in real life, to track the work is not difficult. Your movement is tracked by mobile phone, cameras on every corner, I won’t be surprised if they are already in the outhouses. Your money is walking on the network in electronic form. The choice has already been made without asking for your opinion. Such is the mudflow. If you want - be amused by the illusion of freedom, thinking that you have a choice. Pay for progress, nothing personal.
        4. -1
          28 May 2020 00: 31
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          possible only by direct contact, as is the case with NFC, and it is easily shielded

          Nonsense. I have radio education and computer practice since 1986.
          When saturated with towers, options are possible. But that's not the point. Small and medium businesses will be killed, only chain stores will remain. 99,9% of citizens will visit them. Terminals for exchanging data with chips can be placed there, in the same building with a bank card reader, for example (yes, I forgot to remind you about the "cash", it will soon be closed for sanitary reasons). Chips can be pre-programmed to trigger functions at a specified time (in the absence of constant data exchange with the chip). The power supply of the chip (extremely scanty during the "sleep" of the chip) can be obtained directly in the body of the "subscriber", using electrochemical processes in the body, human blood contains salts, here you have wonderful conductors and antennas (nerve fibers, also wow) .. You will have to shield yourself in a coffin made of transformer iron at a depth of 50 meters.
          In general, the topic is not so fantastic, if you approach it, as they like to say in "some circles" - creatively.
          1. +4
            28 May 2020 09: 29
            Quote: DED_peer_DED
            Chips can be pre-programmed to trigger functions at a set time.

            And your radio education does not tell you a chip without executive mechanisms can only tell the nearest sensor "I am a mulberry" and nothing more? Or will they implant an explosive charge along with the chip?
            1. -2
              28 May 2020 14: 08
              just tell the nearest sensor "I am mulberry" and nothing more?

              I already asked him and the Nexus. And what will this chip do? Identify you, does it work without a chip? Report heart rate and blood sugar so who cares?
              They are silent pretending that they were not asked a question .....
    13. +4
      27 May 2020 20: 14
      What does the mobile application and AI have to do with it, there is no connection here, it seems that the author does not know what AI is at all.
      But where it would be worth introducing it is the replacement of officials, deputies, entire ministries and departments with AI.
      1. -4
        28 May 2020 00: 39
        Quote: Esaul
        It seems that the author does not know what AI is at all.

        These are branches of a computer program according to the principle - "IF - THEN" with elements of control over the results of branching followed by "IF - THEN".
        There is no AI in reality. There are loud statements by "cash processors" and customers, i.e. those who are led by their statements.
        1. 0
          28 May 2020 09: 01
          You confuse AI with an algorithmic program written in a common programming language. Read about neural networks, machine learning, pattern recognition, etc.
        2. -2
          28 May 2020 13: 36
          These are branches of a computer program according to the principle - "IF - THEN" with elements of control over the results of branching followed by "IF - THEN".

          Oh, a fresh look at AI .... I can continue in this style, and no "if-then" is also tete, there are just a bunch of transistors and diodes in computers, and all these programmers, especially the system ones, just launder money lol
    14. -1
      27 May 2020 20: 52
      All different, but Satanists on the planet need to leave the "golden" billion, and turn off the rest ...
      To do this, and connect to the AI ​​...
    15. 0
      28 May 2020 06: 18
      For some reason, no one was indignant when three decades ago, while walking around the city, they unexpectedly asked for your documents. We found ourselves then as if in an occupied territory. Then I hummed to myself, "Here under My sky, I am like an unwelcome guest." .They braided the info. fields. Everyone must have seen a violating girl humming songs on the plane. I saw the same thing in advertising. For people who are inclined to imitate, memes are scary. Now the main task is to divert people from reality. Everyone noticed that serious people are engaged in advertising. They advance the advertising time, its frequency into the laws. The sound frequency below 20 Hz is rarely used anywhere. But they export it to us for a sweet soul. And now a frequency of 5Hz appears, and it is known to be used in psychological attacks. It all did not start today.
    16. +3
      28 May 2020 09: 24
      I am over 50 and I am very wary of modern digitalization. The fact is that everything that I wrote and did, recorded in digital form, will now remain FOREVER and subsequently, when I die, will be associated with my descendants. Their own sins and sins in the future will reach for them and their children for life. Every written and spoken word and this post including, all actions can be used. Are there sinless ones among us? And such information is a great way to manipulate a person. This is especially true for young people who, while under hormones, thoughtlessly dump their "miracles" into the net, not refraining in words and deeds.
      1. +1
        28 May 2020 11: 53
        Quote: gramatey
        The fact is that everything that I wrote and did, fixed in the figure, will now remain FOREVER and in the future, when I die, it will be associated with my descendants. Their own sins and sins will subsequently reach for them and their children for life.

        I think that you are exaggerating the danger, if only because in a rapidly changing world, priorities can also change - for example, homosexuality has recently been considered a sin, and now it even gives advantages in the field of show business. By the way, Mussolini’s granddaughter is quite popular in Italy:
        Alessandra Mussolini (Italian: Alessandra Mussolini; born December 30, 1962, Rome, Italy) is an Italian far-right politician, known for her eccentric statements. Member of the Italian (since 1992) and European (since 2003) parliaments, founder of the neo-fascist party “Social Action”. Niece Sophia Loren, granddaughter of Benito Mussolini.
        1. +1
          28 May 2020 14: 38
          I do not exclude the variability of the approved and condemned in the world. But I would not like to play such a lottery with the fates of my children and grandchildren.
      2. +2
        28 May 2020 12: 04
        Manipulate? In concentration camps often manipulated? There, without further ado, they burned and poisoned with gas. And there were numbers too. Numbers in order to make it easier to keep records of corpses. Nobody will manipulate you! They will simply be disconnected from the network (allowed for consumption) at the request of the head of the concentration camp.
      3. -5
        28 May 2020 13: 39
        The fact is that everything that I wrote and did, fixed in the figure, will now remain FOREVER

        True, well, perhaps with the exception of the word FOREVER. So for example, your cautious attitude will also remain for centuries. Therefore, you must RESPOND FOR YOUR WORDS. And that's great ....
        The trouble is not this, the trouble is that like any tool, it can be used in different ways, well, for example, if I work a little, I can just saturate the Internet with supposedly your statements, but in reality they will have nothing to do with yours. A vivid example right here is a fake from the fact that Billy said that his vaccines are made to reduce the world's population by 15%.
        1. 0
          28 May 2020 16: 19
          There is nothing eternal in the moonlit world, your truth. And you can throw a forgery, but after all like any lie, sooner or later it will disappear. True, as a temporary tool, it’s quite possible to use it effectively.
    17. kig
      0
      28 May 2020 14: 44
      Another coronavirus victim
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    19. 0
      29 May 2020 00: 38
      Quote: gramatey
      I am over 50 and I am very wary of modern digitalization. The fact is that everything that I wrote and did, recorded in digital form, will now remain FOREVER and subsequently, when I die, will be associated with my descendants. Their own sins and sins in the future will reach for them and their children for life. Every written and spoken word and this post including, all actions can be used. Are there sinless ones among us? And such information is a great way to manipulate a person. This is especially true for young people who, while under hormones, thoughtlessly dump their "miracles" into the net, not refraining in words and deeds.

      I'm over 73 years old. But there is an understanding that you are afraid of your own shadow. Do not worry. no one will ever need your opus. Try to find some file downloaded a year ago on your modest computer, and especially when you don’t remember its name exactly. If you are lucky, and you have not erased it, and you will find it, come and please me with your abilities.
      I am convinced that you cannot find it, even if you try to win a million bet.
      Hence, why the hell to track your nonsense, since they are not interesting even to your grandchildren?
      Aren't you a Napoleon complex?
    20. 0
      29 May 2020 15: 22
      Good idea - "individual freedom" ?! Liberoids are able to hide the essence behind the word. And here the old-old concept is hidden - self-will! A colossal desire, limited only by opportunities!
      And it does not matter that this self-will leads to apocalyptic consequences - the main thing it gives a universal resource is money! Progress however!
    21. 0
      13 July 2020 17: 26
      Chipping Implantation and the like ... This is the evolutionary path that humanity is moving., since such introductions (introductions) are a double-edged sword, there are pluses but also minuses too ... Let’s say running ahead, somewhere in the XXII-XXIII century, about 80% of the population of law-abiding citizens of the planet will have such implants. Therefore, neglecting our evolution, is like swimming against the stream ...

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