Ignatiev vs. Putin: Demarche of the Regional Office Official

The network is discussing the "demarche" of the former head of the Republic of Chuvash Mikhail Ignatiev. The official, as you know, was fired from the governorship in January of this year. At that time, the wording was: "In connection with the loss of confidence." This wording was made by the President of Russia.

The reason for the dismissal of the head of Chuvashia was his actions, shots with which circled the whole country. The last straw, as reported, was that Ignatiev forced the Ministry of Emergency Situations to bounce around for the keys. This caused a wide public outcry.

And so, several months have passed since then, and Mikhail Ignatiev decided to “go against the system,” of which he had been more than 8 years old. He sent claims to the Supreme Court. The defendant in the lawsuit of the ex-head of the region was supposed to be President Vladimir Putin, who, according to Ignatiev, allowed the signing of an illegal decree on his removal from office.

According to Ignatiev, the president should have taken into account the fact of "partial disability during the performance by him (Mikhail Ignatiev) of his duties as a republican leader." The ex-official demanded in his lawsuit from Putin the establishment of the right to social guarantees in connection with the removal from office, which, recall, considers it illegal.

The Supreme Court adopted a lawsuit from the ex-head of Chuvashia regarding challenging the presidential decree on dismissal from office. At the same time, the lawsuit in that part, which refers to social guarantees, was returned to Mikhail Ignatiev. Such a return to the Supreme Court explained that the consideration of social guarantees in the framework of office work is not the responsibility of the Armed Forces.

Now the case of the ex-governor against the president according to the decision made by the head of state will be considered by the Supreme Court of Russia on June 30.

The case to challenge the dismissal of the head of the region is already being considered as a precedent.

In the meantime, Ignatiev’s disease is also being discussed, which expects the regional leader to return to his chair. The press reports that he has been diagnosed with bilateral pneumonia. At the moment, Ignatiev is in the clinic.

The ultra-liberal blogosphere declared Ignatieff almost a "fighter against the regime." The fact that Mr. Ignatyev had no questions about the “regime” while the head of the republic was in the chair, the ultra-liberal bloggers are not particularly worried.

Comments

[Serg65]

The ultra-liberal blogosphere has declared Ignatiev almost a "fighter against the regime"

Well, in the ranks of the fighters with the replenishment mode !!!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Serg65

The ultra-liberal blogosphere has declared Ignatiev almost a "fighter against the regime"

Well, in the ranks of the fighters with the replenishment mode !!!

And what a valuable shot they got! They will jump in front of him like dogs.

[svp67]

Quote: 30 vis

They will jump in front of him like dogs.

Let him start by jumping for an acquittal, but in front of the cameras ... let's see how he will remain in the "leadership" after that.

[Stas157]

The situation is ridiculous. But there are oddities. The disgraced governor lies in a very serious condition in intensive care, on lung ventilation. Ignatiev is definitely not up to the courts now. Maybe someone helps him in this matter ... But the most trouble for the authorities can arise if the former governor suddenly dies in court. Then many will definitely be hyping on this subject.

And, of course, this henchman from Edra cannot be any fighter with the Putin regime, as some here say.

[gsev]

Quote: Stas157

trouble for the authorities may arise

I remember the case at NPO Lavochkin during the Soviet era. The workers read that if they have to work with a soldering iron for more than 3 days within a month, then they are entitled to half a liter of milk per day for 15 kopecks at the expense of the state budget. In response to the question: "Where is our milk and when will we get it," they heard from a small-scale manager such as a shop manager: "I have no time to do this. You will get milk through my corpse." A complaint was filed to the Central Committee of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions and a response was received; "Give out the milk" The chief either by accident or from the experiences he had endured died soon after. No one particularly pitied him either among the workers or among his colleagues and leaders. I think the majority of fellow citizens have similar feelings towards Ignatiev, regardless of whether they belong to liberals or communists. Soon Ignatiev learns how much his former subordinates gloat over his position with delight, and I think the defendant will show off his wit to show other lawyers the perniciousness of such a path.

[kin]

Some kind of nonsense about milk. I worked as a miner on a cut in the late 80s, milk was laid and stood in boxes in bags, half was left. It was cheaper to buy than to carry from work. Dogs were given milk, a grocery carrier came with milk, so it ran from it with a stream.

[cat Rusich]

At our enterprise - they gave 2 eggs a day for harm, then they began to give milk - about 0,5 a day, today - "additional payment for harmful working conditions" - 499,80 rubles. per month.

[Simargl]

Quote: cat Rusich

today - "additional payment for harmful working conditions" - 499,80 rubles. per month.

... and it's about the same 0,5 a day ... you just have to buy it in a store.

[kostik-oz]

Well, let's say that this is two times 0,5 and not milk at all!

[Simargl]

Quote: kostik-oz

and not at all milk!

And what? I buy "House" for 49.99 rubles. 10 kg (for these 499r). You can find it cheaper, but there will be no taste at all.
There are 24 shifts per month, on average. Those. 12 kg Well, yes: 2 kg was stolen.
Or do you think that you would receive "Parmalat" or "Valto" at work? No! "365 days" or similar. Or cheaper.
Well, if you're talking about alcohol - it's more expensive, sort of. Alcohol cannot be bought officially. But he is 200-300 r / liter.
And for me, for example, it is not relevant - I do not drink

[Simargl]

Quote: Simargl

"Valto"

"Valio"

[major147]

Quote: kin

Some kind of nonsense about milk.

Before my military service in SA, I worked as an electrician at the Rostselmash plant in the "Shoppers and drums" workshop. In the workshop there were painting chambers in which products were painted. At certain intervals (in my opinion, once a week, I don't remember anymore), we, the repairmen, had to manually wash these chambers from the inside with white spirit. Hell's work for a few hours. But instead of milk, they gave us horseradish, although they gave it to the welders and painters who worked with us under the same roof (literally).

[Mavrikiy]

But the most trouble for the authorities can arise if the former governor suddenly dies after suing. Then many will definitely be hyping on this subject.

Nothing, Nemtsov survived, and how slush rushed into the battle for him ...

[cat Rusich]

Soon the Czechs will have to rename another street, already "in honor of M. Ignatiev". It will go on like this and in Prague all the streets will bear the names of "fighters against the regime". Maybe even Prague itself will be renamed "named after 26 Fighters against the Regime" (following the example of the city "named after 26 Baku Komisars").

[private person]

And, of course, this henchman from Edra cannot be any fighter with the Putin regime, as some here say.


So Putin himself appointed him and suffered for excessive zeal.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: svp67

Let him start by jumping for the acquittal, and in front of the cameras ..

With his lawsuits, he can come to the point that he suddenly shows up with large financial surpluses and material values, but in fact in such places they do not live as a complete family in two!

[svp67]

Quote: Starover_Z

With his lawsuits, he can come to the point that he suddenly shows up with large financial surpluses and material values,

The system of power structures, and most importantly the relations in them, is such that "do not go to the fortuneteller"

[Alex777]

This, with his disability in such a post, only the hospital will be interrogated.
With the rest of the questions, there is too much honor for such a fool.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Starover_Z

With his lawsuits, he can come to the point that he suddenly shows up with large financial surpluses and material values,

Most likely, the Accounts Chamber will come with an audit of its activities for the period from appointment to resignation. Then large financial surpluses and material values ​​will be revealed not only in him ...

[Angel_and_Demon]

And what a valuable shot they got! They will jump in front of him like dogs.

This is not a frame - this is a new trainer, they are very happy, they hope for a bigger piece of "meat"

[kjhg]

It’s funny to look at you, hospod fans. From him is the same fighter with the regime as the bishop is from me. I read the comments under this article and that’s what I noted for myself, the comments were written exclusively by supporters of Putin and the bucket. Strange, isn't it? It would seem that Ignatiev is your man, from the same bucket. He, like all other members, faithfully licked one place of his lord over the course of many years, crushed the opposition, laughed at it, stuffed his pockets and pockets of his friends. But then, after the well-known events, a bucket threw him overboard with shame. And after that, all the regime’s servants on command began to bark at him, bite and pour mud, like the rest of the opposition. Because servants cannot do otherwise in a pure way. This is their essence. Ignatiev, trying to at least somehow avenge his former comrades in the bucket for such persecution, rushed to seek justice in court, knowing full well that he would not find any justice there. This is just a step of despair on his part. Exactly the same as the doomed to death. From the psychological side, this is understandable. But on the human side, he is not at all sorry. He deserved it in full, like all members and supporters of the bucket and Putin. I hope that someday they will all be in place of Ignatiev.

[Hyperborean]

Well, how to say .. A step of despair .. Perhaps this is an attempt to distance themselves from the former "friends-comrades-in-arms" for show .. Many bureaucrats have now begun to think about the future .. Not the country and the people, of course, but about their personal. border, in case of moving, you need to somehow get out, get rid of all sins ..., and in front of fellow citizens to speak in a new role ... you see, if something changes, then it will be possible to settle there too .. Although it seems now he is sick .. But I wonder if it's real or just waiting out hiding behind the disease ...?

[kjhg]

Quote: Hyperborean

Perhaps this is an attempt to distance themselves from their former "companions-in-arms" for show .. Many bureaucrats are now beginning to think about the future ..

Ruled out. Almost all of his "fellow comrades-in-arms" disowned him, hoping that the new head would leave them in their places. Ignatiev turned into a leper for them. So there was no need for him to do this.

Quote: Hyperborean

Although he seems to be sick now .. But it’s interesting, is it real or just waiting while hiding behind an illness ...?

He was sick before that. During last year's St. Petersburg Forum, he became very ill and was urgently taken to the Mariinsky Hospital in St. Petersburg. Doctors diagnosed myocardial infarction and had heart surgery. In September of this year, he ended the 2nd term of government of the republic. He was given to understand that another person would become the head, and he would be sent as a senator to the Federation Council from the region. Here is such a prehistory.

[post]

is pneumonia or heart attack? I understand that it seems bad to be a senator, they pay little

[kjhg]

Quote: forpost

is pneumonia or heart attack?

I wrote clearly. A heart attack occurred last year in July during the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, where he was urgently operated on. Now he lies with pneumonia. Pneumonia or coronavirus for a person with this condition of the heart is very, very bad. I hope that he survives, but the chances are few.

[sergo1914]

Quote: kjhg

like a bishop from me.

As they say, you should not promise. Life is a funny thing.

[gsev]

Quote: kjhg

It would seem that Ignatiev is your man.

Any government, even liberal, even totalitarian, such figures discrediting the government and unreasonably abusing subordinates, seeks to send them to the opposition. Stalin was forgiven for collectivization with all its excesses and repressions, since the result served the development of the country. And Yeltsin was not forgiven the 1990s, as the results served to enrich the "family"

[New Year day]

Quote: kjhg

This is just a step of despair on his part.

don't think so! If he had the courage to go against Putin now, then this is evidence of a shift in the elite. This is a marker of what is approaching a dudger.

[cat Rusich]

M. Kasyanov - Prime Minister 17.05.2000 - 24.02.2004 Since February 2005 - "fighter with the regime" ... This is not a "shift in the elite" - this is a "phase shift", switched "phase" and now - "fighter with the regime".

[Albert1988]

Quote: Silvestr

This is a marker of what is approaching a dudger.

This is a marker of the fact that a particular citizen has moved a little, such mentally retarded ones regularly get out in our prominent positions, and then they begin to create there God knows what, for what they are paid ... with their "head" ... or with a wallet ... or both ...

[Nasrat]

All these fighters against the regime are struggling too comfortably ... no links to you, no persecution by the secret police, only monetary subsidies from both the Kremlin and from abroad .. A very convenient president for the "opposition" and financially profitable ...

[Serg65]

Quote: Nasr

A very convenient president for the "opposition" and financially profitable ...

So I think that it really looks like philanthropy of Nicholas II!

[Angel_and_Demon]

So I think that it really looks like philanthropy of Nicholas II!

Spit, remember how it all ended.

[Serg65]

Yeah, it ended disgustingly, but it started just like now ....

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: Serg65

Yeah, it ended disgustingly, but it started just like now ....

That's it - God forbid, it's better constitutionally

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

looks at the philanthropy of Nicholas II!

The beginning of the end of Nicholas 2 was Bloody Sunday and the Lensky execution. Yes, and all those flogged by order of Stolypin longed for revenge.

[cat Rusich]

When Nicholas 2 came to Nizhny Novgorod on July 17, 1896, some peasants kissed the royal shadow. (I just heard somewhere on a television monitor, but Nikolay 2 is a saint today).

[Simargl]

Quote: cat Rusich

but Nikolay 2 is a saint today

No. Not yet ranked. Martyr.

[gsev]

Quote: cat Rusich

some peasants kissed the royal shadow.

If he spoke to the demonstrators on January 9 and roughly punished the managers of Lenzoto and the captain bribed by them, Treschenkov, Nikolay 2 and his daughters might have happily survived V.I. Lenin. Putin does not give collectors batches of people to shoot bankers, as Treschenkov shot with the approval of the Nikolaev ministers Makarov and Timashov.

[Serg65]

The beginning of the end of Nicholas 2 was the collusion of Rockefeller and Stalin in 1903

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

conspiracy of Rockefeller and Stalin in 1903

And then who were Lenin and Stalin? In my opinion, then they were less significant than now Zakhar Prilepin or Antonina Serova. Before 1917, the US Consul in Switzerland, Dulles, not wanting to listen to the request of V.I. Lenin for a visa to the United States put him out the door like a lumpen and went to twist romance with his girlfriend

[Serg65]

Quote: gsev

And then who were Lenin and Stalin?

Lenin may have been nothing, but the young comrade Koba skillfully played the Baku strike and even went into a rage he came up with a new way to wean money later known as racketeering!

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

Comrade Koba skillfully played the Baku strike

The Obukhov defense was played steeper. In some places, the Soviet republics under the tsar for several months removed the police and gangs from the power of the landlords and manufacturers. Do you really see a foreign hand behind the ordinary refusal to work for insufficient salary? In Siberia and the Urals, managers went with revolvers under the tsar, fearing an attack for cutting workers' prices. As far as I know, counterintelligence and the police of the Russian Empire did not find the arm of the world behind the scenes in such attacks. In the PRC, for decades, an Italian strike of intellectuals went on at defense plants, until the CPC began to reward successful scientists and designers with the opportunity to organize their own business to introduce and produce their inventions.

Quote: Serg65

subsequently the name racket!

Feudal relations emerged from racketeering. For example, in Pushkin's story Dubrovsky, the storyline unfolds around the raider seizure of the protagonist's estate. Or "Minor" Fonvizin .. There, a local organized criminal group tried to snatch a bride from a military officer. His bride was saved from violence by the presence of a military team from an officer. In principle, the first racketeer was an unknown great ape who took a banana from a relative.

[Serg65]

Quote: gsev

Obukhov defense was played steeper

Obukhov defense is essentially an attempt to destroy the best defense plant in Russia. But the Baku strike is a redistribution of property ... catch the difference?

Quote: gsev

As far as I know, counterintelligence and the police of the Russian Empire in such attacks did not find the arm of the world behind the scenes

Have you heard anything about the Japanese colonel Akashi?

Quote: gsev

For example, in the novel by Pushkin Dubrovsky

You do not confuse robbery with extortion of money!

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

You do not confuse robbery with extortion of money!

As far as I know, after October 1993, the Russian government officially allowed internal affairs officers to rob and rape citizens. A familiar prosecutor then warned that he would not be able to protect even his old friends in the event of a gang raid by a police officer. Did you mean that?

[Serg65]

Quote: gsev

As far as I know, after October 1993, the Russian government officially allowed internal affairs officers to rob and rape citizens.

Can you present an official document?

[gsev]

Is this really published? Can you truly tell how RNU or NBP were destroyed in Russia? On the other hand, if all businessmen paid racketeering openly, then this was approved at the top. At first, the ZAC call saved the racketeers; after a couple of such calls, such a connection was removed. If, for example, Abakumov could not protect a familiar doctor from Ryumin, then this order as for such an attempt to torture Stalin ordered to propagate and publish in the newspaper Pravda ?.

[Serg65]

Quote: gsev

On the other hand, if all businessmen paid racketeering openly, then this was approved at the top.

Do not say nonsense!

Quote: gsev

At first, the ZAC call saved the racketeers; after a couple of such calls, such a connection was removed. If, for example, Abakumov could not protect a familiar doctor from Ryumin, then this order, as for such an attempt to torture him, Stalin ordered to propagate and publish in the newspaper Pravda?

What a mess in your head !!!

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

What a mess in your head !!!

In large warehouse complexes, there were telephones of the ZAS forerunner of modern mobile communications. When the racketeers arrived there, the base management called the ZAS leadership. The racketeers were disappearing, apparently information from people who influenced them was brought to them. Then the WAS was removed. In addition, in 1917, wood and grain hunger was organized in St. Petersburg. In 1991, a food blockade of Moscow was organized. Relatives of the cleaning lady then in our research institute tried to sell a slaughtered pig in Moscow. A patrol stopped them on the road, forcedly bought the meat, destroyed them in front of their eyes and warned that the next time the meat would be simply taken away.

[Serg65]

Quote: gsev

Did you mean it?

No friend, not that! Racket ... well, so that it would be more understandable to you, this is a modern protection of the roof ... that is. every month on a certain day you bring uncle a denyuzhk and say thank you for being still alive ... is that clear?

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

Racket ... well, to make it more clear to you

Any state seeks to tax the population as much as possible and spend the collected funds as efficiently as possible. If an organization appears that uncontrollably begins to take this money from the population, then either the state will be left without funds and will be captured by a neighbor. Or this office will enter the rage of weaning money in such a way that it will doom the people to extinction. Or it will become so strong that it will take the place of former state leaders. But in a normal society, for 40 years, racketeers must have lime. Otherwise, at some point, the Varangians will be called to restore order from across the ocean, from the mountains or from the river to restore order. In addition, among any nation there are individuals with whom uncle-reethekers are afraid to have money affairs, when the people are impoverished, there are more of them and they replace uncle-racketeers in the power of those who are fat and lazy from easy money or their children ..

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

didn’t you hear anything from Colonel Akashi?

The problem is that the gendarmes then hunted more for the leaders of the Peasant Union and not for Colonel Akashi. At one time, A. Dulles, having slipped his denunciation to Stalin, managed to organize the extermination of politicians objectionable to Americans in Eastern Europe by the hands of communist state security.

[Serg65]

Quote: gsev

The problem is that the gendarmes then hunted more for the leaders of the Peasant Union and not for Colonel Akashi.

The problem is that Nikolai the "bloody" was too humane, unlike Stalin, and this is precisely Nikolai's weakness!

Quote: gsev

Dulles, having thrust his denunciation to Stalin, managed to organize the extermination of politically objectionable Americans in Eastern Europe by the hands of communist state security.

And whom did they destroy?

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

And whom did they destroy?

Politicians in Eastern Europe who thought with their head building socialism while leading their countries, and did not wait for Stalin's instructions. That is, the CIA saw the threat in the nationally-oriented communist wing, and not in the international one. In North Korea, China, Vietnam, for example, they are better at fighting Covid-19-2 than in Europe obedient to the United States.

[gsev]

Quote: Serg65

Nikolai "bloody" was too humane, unlike Stalin, and this is precisely the weakness

In the then world, Russia was one of the most oppressive independent states in the world. I doubt that in Turkey, Ethiopia or Afghanistan there was more despotism. And what did Stalin achieve? Even his children could not live happily in the state he created ..

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Nasr

All these fighters with the regime are fighting too comfortably ...

Yeah. And he, you see, filed a lawsuit. On illegal actions of the president. It seems to me that at least they don't look for good from the good, but ... in general, "We sing songs to the madness of the brave ..."
There is a joke on this topic:

A man comes home. A smile from ear to ear and kind of joyful. The wife asks:
-Are you so happy?
- I just got fired from work!
-Well, why are you happy?
-So, after all, they put the rest!

[gsev]

Quote: Polite Elk

in general, "To the madness of the brave we sing songs ..

Not everything is so great. During the civil war V.I. Lenin received a complaint against the leadership of the housing commission in Moscow, which for bribes improves the living conditions of people close to the Moscow authorities. Ilyich burst into an angry rebuke calling to hit the bribe takers in the press, but was afraid to order for example to shoot or put a couple of bribe takers in prison, although he simply shot officers, priests and bourgeois. Few people know that Stalin came to the cult of personality after the abolition of the party maximum and the introduction of salaries in envelopes for his nomenclature.

[Ilya-spb]

We need to do a blood test for corruption Ignatieff.

If they find it, then isolate it. Suddenly, infect?

[The Siberian barber]

Half the country needs isolation, then !!
And sanitation of the territory ..

[venik]

Quote: Ilya-spb

We need to do a blood test for corruption Ignatieff.

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You mean the test for coreumpovirus?

[gsev]

Quote: venik

You mean the corumpovirus test?

In the US management textbooks, it is written that every third person will steal and apparently take bribes. In the West, a security officer who managed to imprison a corrupt person often provides himself with such an act very well. As soon as Khrushchev put several MGB officers for especially clumsy concoctions, mass repressions are a thing of the past.

[venik]

Quote: gsev

In the US management textbooks, it is written that, without proper control, one in three will steal and apparently take bribes.

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"Classic" (V.I. without any trial and investigation [/ b]! (I mean - and WILL BE FOR WHAT!)

[gsev]

Quote: venik

you can shoot absolutely calmly ("on the spot"), without any trial

By 1956, the USSR realized that it was dangerous for the state to shoot without an objective trial. It turned out that the scammers also know how to shoot people they dislike and write fantastic but convincing denunciations. For example, after Ryumin's initiative, supported by Timashchuk, so many doctors were arrested that there was no one to treat the leaders of the USSR and no one could be entrusted with an objective autopsy of Stalin's corpse. In addition, even A. Dulles slipped I.V. during the "Splitting Factor" operation. A denunciation to Stalin on which the flywheel of mass repressions was launched against the leaders of the socialist countries of Eastern Europe, disliked by A. Dulles. The USSR and the entire socialist camp in Eastern Europe were brought to collapse by this denunciation. Stalin created a state in which even his children could not live. His son spent more time in the USSR than Stalin under the tsar. And Stalin's daughter was forced to please the Indian old man and marry him in order to escape from the USSR to freedom. Even in old age, she preferred a retirement home in the United States to a golden cage in Tbilisi from Andropov and Gorbachev.

[Simargl]

Quote: Ilya-spb

We need to do a blood test for corruption Ignatieff.

It’s impossible: it steals the analyzer .. or bribes ...

[Vend]

Quote: Serg65

The ultra-liberal blogosphere has declared Ignatiev almost a "fighter against the regime"

Well, in the ranks of the fighters with the replenishment mode !!!

It’s bad to see without a feeder, work wean

[Cyril G ...]

To all fighters a fighter!

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

But he was once a faithful dog kGovavogo Ryzhima. And the zhurnalug called for water and became active in the edre ... And so it got sour ... Yes, the party in power warmed a submarine snake on its wide chest. And how many of them have sucked on the sweet tita eDra? Thousands of them ...

[4ekist]

He is not a dog, but just a boor.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Fucked from a sense of own stupidity horseradish from the mountain. And this Emergencies Ministry is also good. Jumping boy.

[Kronos]

In edra, all the same as in other parties except for the Communist Party

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Kronos

except for the Communist Party

Which does not affect anything or anyone. The Communist Party, at least its top is not any better than the EDRA or the Liberal Democratic Party. Fully controlled by the Kremlin.

[syndicalist]

There are no parties. And the Communist Party is also not a party, but a branch of the presidential administration.

[Karabin]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Yes, the party in power warmed a submarine snake on its wide chest.

Like to like

[Sayan]

Quote: Serg65

The ultra-liberal blogosphere has declared Ignatiev almost a "fighter against the regime"

Well, in the ranks of the fighters with the replenishment mode !!!

yes, yes, exactly so, given the fact that the Chuvachek is passing (so far as a witness) on some corruption cases - how do we do it - he burst out on theft and immediately into the opposition, into fighters in the regime, into martyrs in one word

[Snail N9]

Another thing is possible - the beginning of the promotion of an allegedly "opposition" presidential candidate for the next elections ...

[Catholic]

Quote: Snail N9

Another thing is possible - the beginning of the promotion of an allegedly "opposition" presidential candidate for the next elections ...

Ignatiev is a failed candidate. So no promotion will work.

[major147]

Quote: Catholic

So no promotion will work.

And "smear" the "protest electorate" on such "fighters"?

[Terenin]

Ignatiev decided to “go against the system,” of which he himself had been more than 8 years old.

Hmm, nothing new , the majority of former ardent party and Komsomol functionaries of the USSR in troubled times turned into ardent oligarchs and nouveau riche

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: Terenin

Ignatiev decided to “go against the system,” of which he himself had been more than 8 years old.

Hmm, nothing new , the majority of former ardent party and Komsomol functionaries of the USSR in troubled times turned into ardent oligarchs and nouveau riche

And scary believers

[Terenin]

Quote: Angel_and_Demon

Quote: Terenin

Ignatiev decided to “go against the system,” of which he himself had been more than 8 years old.

Hmm, nothing new , the majority of former ardent party and Komsomol functionaries of the USSR in troubled times turned into ardent oligarchs and nouveau riche

And scary believers

Right, Victor. Your nickname, it’s just that definition (Demon and Angel), there’s no third

[Civil]

The case to challenge the dismissal of the head of the region is already being considered as a precedent.

1. A gesture of despair, persuaded to file an application to show that we have democracy.
2. The result is known in advance.
3. Already laid down in a hospital under mechanical ventilation.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Serg65

The ultra-liberal blogosphere has declared Ignatiev almost a "fighter against the regime"

Well, in the ranks of the fighters with the replenishment mode !!!

Or maybe you don’t have to juggle? I’m never supporting this character, but the authorities have also fallen for a long time, and I said so softly.

[phair]

Not all the same ranks run up ... Chuvash also wanted. Is there anti-Chuvashism here?

[Pvi1206]

a message appeared on Twitter that he was already in critical condition with bilateral pneumonia ...

[KAV]

Quote: Pvi1206

a message appeared on Twitter that he was already in critical condition with bilateral pneumonia ...

God forbid, even in a sacred sacrifice to him become ...

[jonht]

Well, this one is in the "sacred" vryatli, more likely to suck, the other word will be banned .....

[Angel_and_Demon]

God forbid, even in a sacred sacrifice to him become ...

Perhaps not himself, well-wishers can be found.

[New Year day]

Quote: KAV

God forbid, even in a sacred sacrifice to him become ...

what sacrifice? "edronovets" - and that says it all.

[Serg65]

What an evil Putin brought a man !!!

[K-612-O]

This is very exaggerated. He has all the rules.

[Sayan]

Quote: Pvi1206

a message appeared on Twitter that he was already in critical condition with bilateral pneumonia ...

Yes no, he has hemorrhoids - will be cured

[Pravodel]

It is not written there, by the case, that pneumonia from jumps happened: I tried to learn how to jump like a dog on keys and now, I jumped ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

According to Ignatiev, the president should have taken into account the fact of "partial disability during the performance by him (Mikhail Ignatiev) of his duties as a republican leader."

Water in the knee, urine from the head.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

urine with a head

There in Chuvashia it is generally not clear what is happening.

Sauna in the Government House
Foreman Boris Portnov began to build the governor's sauna in the government building of Chuvashia with reluctance. He, as deputy director of the local Department of Capital Construction, did not understand the meaning of such a construction.
“Officials have built these saunas for themselves everywhere,” Boris says. - In homes, in special hotels, but at work - why ?! There is also a sauna in the neighboring building - the Supreme Court ... Although I have something! The master's business. The administration decided so. I was given a project with all signatures and state expertise, money was allocated from the budget, and I started construction. I handed over the selection committee and forgot ...
But here is the trouble. Journalists sniffed about the sauna. Smiled at the feuilleton. Prosecutors came, they say - who allowed ?! Whose money is it for? By what right?
Chuvash authorities thought, thought and ...
Court sentence:
“As a result of the criminal actions of Portnov (the same foreman. - Ed.), In order to profit for unidentified persons from the leadership of the administration of the head of the Chuvash Republic, he illegally used the basement of an administrative building to organize their leisure in a sauna with a swimming pool ...”
That is, the foreman arbitrarily entered the office of the governor, made repairs and a sauna there.
All this, in order to quote: "Get benefits and advantages for yourself, namely the location of a high-level leadership, cash bonus".
As the head of the local administration told the investigators later: “I went by accident and I see someone built a sauna! I immediately declared - disgrace! Who did it ?! ”
Portnova, who until recently refused to believe what was happening (“You ordered me a sauna!”), Fortunately, was not put in prison. Amnestied. But the administration also brought a lawsuit against the builder ... for his own sauna - by 7 624 597 rubles. Because, by decision of the Supreme Court (in the building of which, we also recall, a steam room) money should be returned to the treasury.
Sauna photo.

https://www.penza.kp.ru/daily/27091.4/4163468/

[Terenin]

Yes, Anatoly for a long time did not laugh especially reading this

Quote: Anatol Klim

for unidentified persons from the leadership of the administration of the head of the Chuvash Republic

The bureaucrats’ fantasy is still weak in the regions.
I suggest that with such a level of "investigation" the inscription would not have passed "Sauna", but "The point for restoring body functions after receiving citizens" ...
The land of frightened id ....

[sagitch]

One needs to go to work in Chuvashia, they invest seven lyam in a dubious free business ...

[lopuhan2006]

Did the rats run from the ship?

[Nasrat]

Quote: lopuhan2006

Did the rats run from the ship?

The rat was kicked out for stupidity, and there are more stupidities than what they kicked out for ...

[major147]

Quote: Nasr

The rat was kicked out for stupidity,

"When all the rats escape from the ship, it stops sinking!" (from)

[Strashila]

like Khazanov's about the parrot, "And a rumor went around the city that he does not bring happiness."
Putin will conclude that it is now impossible to say goodbye to the governors gently "after losing trust".
Another six months have not passed, it is possible that at the end of the year the counting chamber will work.
He wants according to the charter, he will receive according to the charter.

[Cyril G ...]

clever house clever will go according to the instructions of the prosecutor's office with confiscation and the term to think about life.

Quite real by the way.

[major147]

Quote: Strashila

confiscation and the term to think about life.

Or maybe the commission is already working, the region is not to hand over a stable. Most likely something was dug up, so the "poor fellow" is in a hurry to put on a "crown of thorns" even in spite of the illness.

[codetalker]

Podi was stealing, will now tell that he is being persecuted for his "struggle with the regime."

[alone]

Quote: codetalker

Podi was stealing, will now tell that he is being persecuted for his "struggle with the regime."

Who hasn’t stepped in yet? Announce the list

[codetalker]

Do you understand the difference between stolen and stolen?)

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Let them rejoice, or maybe wait that they will have to jump themselves, for example, after a prosecutor’s check, but it would not hurt to check.

[Catholic]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

maybe he’ll have to jump himself

I think it’s jumping soon ... I think there will be a prosecutor’s check.

[Thunderbolt]

The last straw, as reported, was that Ignatiev forced the Ministry of Emergency Situations to bounce around for the keys.

What kind of officer is he if he can jump on his hind legs in front of Ham?

[4ekist]

I didn’t jump, and then I would be fired. That's all.

[Revival]

Yes, that’s the price of the officer’s rank

[4ekist]

Come on, you "bent" it. Remember how earlier officers unloaded wagons with coal. especially the officer of the Ministry of Emergencies is a semi-civilian ministry.

[Revival]

Unloading a car does not discredit the officer's honor, but only speaks of the price of the "state" he serves

[4ekist]

Here are more questions about the appearance of a representative of the authorities. If he considered that a person jumped like a dog after the keys to a car (official). Himself lied.

[major147]

Quote: 4ekist

Remember how before officers unloaded coal wagons.

Being myself in the rank of a major in the 90s, I taxed to feed my family.

[4ekist]

Taxing is a common thing for employees. and now many are taxing.

[saigon]

I will tell you the terrible secret officers in the Army, and there special ranks military departments do not have.
The character begs the Lychki for demobilization and popped up at the Ministry of Emergency Situations or the Police, he studied there and, for example, now on the shoulder straps the stars are already major.
The question is simple, how does this person who considers himself as a MAYOR lead a motorized infantry battalion or a tank?
For me, the officer is the army and navy, the officer is the one who will lead his units into battle, all other non-officers are my soldier's opinion.

[AU Ivanov.]

The commanders of the units that will foam the burning oil storage, or, God forbid, the nuclear reactor, not the officers?

[Revival]

Jumping in front of superiors, no

[AU Ivanov.]

And in the army, what is wrong? This is not uncommon: an officer walking on the tsarl before the command.

[Revival]

A penny to an officer without honor.
Although it is probably out of date and it is time to separate the honor and the officer as a mandatory component?
Well, like we aren’t like that, but life is complicated, and so on.

[AU Ivanov.]

I did not write about honor, without which an officer is impossible, but about the fact that an MChSovets going into the fire deserves the title of "officer" no less than a company commander going into the attack.

[Revival]

An officer without honor is not an officer in principle.
Private soldiers go into the fire, and only for this fact officers are not considered

[Revival]

The Mkhovets who goes to the fire without honor is not an officer, but the Mkhovets who goes into the fire

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: saigon

an officer is one who will lead his units into battle

Technicians - in the civilian world!
Flyers - in the rank and file!
Shtabistov - in sergeants!
General Staff - in the ensign!
Supreme - corporal! ... oh

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: saigon

divisions

And I also forgot: commanders of units and formations, commanding associations - into managers of the corresponding level!

[Trotil42]

Removed from the trough ..... that freaks ...

[Courier]

Brave man, really brave.

[K-612-O]

What is the courage? He knows very well that while the president is in office, he cannot be a personal defendant. The moron is not finished. But I’m afraid I’ll raise all the documents, and don’t forget about the FSB, they have a daddy for this friend.

[Courier]

Haha Well, as if you yourself described what is his courage

Quote: K-612-O

But I’m afraid I’ll raise all the documents, and don’t forget about the FSB, they have a daddy for this friend.

Well of course daddy, AP, fine, let's all all laws we’ll also cancel the judicial system, there are daddies, AP, and the king

[K-612-O]

The question is that even the Armed Forces admit that he was dismissed with violations as soon as the sick-list closes, this imbitsil will also fly out of his post and the authorities will deal closely with the results of his reign. And it will be absolutely correct. And the authorities are changing everything, it’s necessary to immediately open the criminals, and not kindly, so that those who are stubborn in the regional authorities do not breed.

[Revival]

So they will begin to open, open, and no matter how they go out to ...

[kjhg]

The investigator of the prosecutor's office reports to the president:
- Vasilyeva pointed to Serdyukov, Serdyukov to Chubais, Chubais to Surkov, Surkov to Medvedev, Medvedev to ...
- So, STOP! - interrupts Vladimir Vladimirovich. - And already it is quite obvious that no one is to blame for anything ...

[Doctor]

What is the courage?

In that.

But I’m afraid I’ll raise all the documents, and don’t forget about the FSB, they have a daddy for this friend.

So far there have been no such precedents.

[major147]

Quote: Arzt

So far there have been no such precedents.

Do not count all, read for yourself!
http://mykor.ru/blogs/blog-trang-a/process-poshyol-s-spisok-posazhennyh-za-.html

[Revival]

If they have a daddy and are not immediately put into business, then this, I think, seems like a crime

[Grits]

Quote: Courier

Brave man, really brave.

But ill to disgrace.

[Aleksandr56478]

he has nothing bold ... just tore him away from the trough and a warm place. As a rat cornered, ready to rush at its beater out of despair, regardless of size, this situation is similar. By the way, the author hastened to conclude that the liberda ranks him among the "fighters against the regime", the audience also laughs at his attempts to return to the trough with which he has been feeding for many years.

[Rokambol]

He is not brave, he is just very brazen

[samarin1969]

Cool news ... "Ignatiev against Putin !!" ... Then there is endless space for conspiracy theorists ...
From the front to the staged performance.

[Altona]

Quote: samarin1969

"Ignatiev against Putin !!"

--------------------------
Six months ago, this seemed like a mega fantastic scenario. Ignatiev has always been his loyal dog, Chuvashia is generally a loyal republic, where 43% will be made of 66% of the United Russia, and 80% to the president. As an official of this rank, he started all sorts of business as usual, which now has no one to cover. It is not clear who advised him to go to court? Okay, the court will reject part of his claims, where will he go then? To the ECHR? And then where? Have you prepared 12 suitcases of Rutskoy for The Hague? (Sarcasm). It is not clear in general why he started this, but certainly not to "fight the regime" and to "break the system", he has neither the brains nor other data in the form of any kind of passionarity for this.

[stalki]

If he wants to look like a laughing stock, then now let him jump and wave his fists

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Bell !!! Alarm bell for Putin !!!! Today the ex-governor filed a lawsuit, tomorrow some "offended" or "EKS" will want to stage a coup)))) Previously, the governors were like dogs and "FAS" and "FU" meekly performed, but now what (??? ) - they started to snap, and tomorrow some official dog wants to bite ???? I would be in Putin's place, so that I could live peacefully until the end of the term, all officials from the government and ministries, not retired, but sent to the guillotine))) No man - no problem !!!! Especially when coronaviruses are walking around the world))), and the viruses run out - we always have a problem with Ukraine in stock)))

[Andrey VOV]

You look at this person, is it in your opinion capable of organizing a coup? I think it’s unlikely ... the level of trust in the governor’s corps is so low, and there isn’t such a significant figure that could lead ... the last one, in my opinion, who is real could in due time to make decisive actions was General Rokhlin, but ... fate we know him.

[Servisinzhener]

I remember the movie "Gold of the Party" there were two methods. Or a phone call with a special text broadcast - and the person immediately went out the window. Or a motorcyclist with a sapper blade.

[Vadim237]

Let the coup be arranged - that’s the reason for all these officials of governors and ministers to send the FSB MTR to the guillotine to take care that the operations to eliminate them go smoothly. Officials of the Irkutsk region and Khakassia are in the first place for mopping up in view of their local lawlessness and complete disregard for the center.

[pereselenec]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

Previously, the governors were like dogs and "FAS" and "FU" meekly performed, but now what (???) - they began to snap, and tomorrow some dog-official wants to bite ????

Those who are not retouched by the Kremlin’s press service are watching photos, but are in direct contact with Putin, noted that his grandfather is completely decrepit. So they lost their sacred rites.

[Vadim237]

And what do you want the sixth dozen already ends.

[major147]

Quote: pereselenec

Those who are not retouched by the Kremlin’s press service are watching photos,

Retouching is possible in both directions ...

[pereselenec]

Quote: major147

Retouching is possible in both directions ...

This is only one.

[Doctor]

Bell !!! A wake-up call for Putin !!!!

Uh-huh.

[gurzuf]

The fact that you are free is not your merit, Mr. Ignatiev, but our flaw -F. E. Dzerzhinsky.

[Knell wardenheart]

It seems to me that the author himself does not understand very well what "Ultraliberal" means and probably "Liberal" too, firstly because it is used in a clearly derogatory tone.
Liberal currents, dear, these are currents that once gave you the opportunity to both choose GDP and chop loaves on his head, as you like what he does or dislike. And if one fine day VVP does not like something of what you say or do - and a skating rink will roll up and down on you, these same "Liberals" will be the only ones who will pay attention to it.
Secondly, you need to understand that now in our society every louse has the opportunity to express its opinion, and those who have more opportunities / more itching in the tail, as a rule, crawl into the media space. Some of these people consider themselves "politicians" or "fighters against the regime" - for example, they are Kasyanov, Gudkov, Sobchak, etc. Some people, like the author, for very mediocre knowledge of the issue and not having the habit of analyzing rhetoric, take these people for "Liberals". All sorts of bloggers and walkers on talk shows are added "to the heap", and a picture is emerging that is worthy of Picasso's brush. However, I think it will not be superfluous to note that not every cognac lover is an alcoholic, and not every person who has run into the government in something is a liberal. Because much of what these people say and do contradict the liberal idea, and self-identification is a very fragile thing in our time - now all politicians, zernulists, experts, etc.

As for Ignatiev, from the specific humor of this man and from the filing of this statement, it is clearly seen that probably his illness is somewhat worse than "bilateral pneumonia". A good question is, how did this person end up in such a high chair. Who promoted it, etc.

[Kronos]

Liberals are people who have been robbing the country for 30 years and Communists have given people the opportunity to speak

[Knell wardenheart]

1) Do not confuse liberals with the restorers of capitalism in the 90s. And by the way, even if we assume that there were liberal trends (which, by the way, is strange, because these people, with rare exceptions, were flesh and blood communist Komsomol in the past, and the name "Liberal" in their party associations or party programs is not met), then these people ruled until the end of the Yeltsin era (9 years). To believe that Putin's rule has some (even the most distant) relation to liberalism means not at all catching up with the meaning of this term (or not catching up with what has happened over the past 20 years)
2) The communists really gave people the opportunity to speak out in the mid-80s) It was called "glasnost". True, you omit the moment that before that the communists took this opportunity from people (70 years before that) - and they had to give it when samizdats were floating around the country with might and main.
3) And by the way, even these people could be called communists very conditionally, because the party program has long been socialism without a single hint of something more :-)

[Kronos]

Putin is precisely the liberal optimizer, modeled after the West. They gave people their say starting in the 20s by freeing monarchists and bourgeois from power.

[Knell wardenheart]

Something I do not remember where and in what the GDP was for the expansion of anyone's rights other than their own or the rights of a few state monopolies. His policy is right-wing authoritarianism.
He is the same "liberal" as Lukashenko or Nazarbayev.

[Kronos]

Typical mantras in your capitalism is not correct, but would be correct then healed

[AU Ivanov.]

Those same Communists who sent 70 years to utter sentences in Kolyma and in psychiatric hospitals, why did they put them on the wall?

[major147]

Quote: Kronos

Liberals are people who have been robbing the country for 30 years and Communists have given people the opportunity to speak

Liberals are people who have robbed the Communists of the opportunity to rob the country!

[Kronos]

Communists built countries and liberals robbed and robbed

[major147]

Quote: Kronos

Communists built countries and liberals robbed and robbed

If you recall what the USSR came under the leadership of the Communists in 1991, then your words can be called into question.

[Knell wardenheart]

Both had tools for construction - but analysts and planners were not there to hell. There is a big difference between build to be -and build for centuries.
In my opinion, much of what the communists were doing differed little "in result" from what the comrades here call robbery. Because horse money and resources flowed to social countries, to the Arabs, to Africa and Latin America - we gave penny loans or gratis to various banana-coconut regimes, while it was really justified rarely - and most of these regimes either turned out to we were useless by 1991, either they ruined our pants, or they already managed to throw us epic (there were successes, but the statistics are relentless against their background).
Instead of overcoming communal dwellings in 74 years, we had riveted legions of tanks - we wouldn’t be able to do that for ourselves, for Arabs, on a rainy day, for Poles and Czechs - who had their own industry and their own piggy bank. We took these funds from our people (then still common, but to a different extent) in the same way as the oligarchs are doing now, albeit less pompously.
The result was the same - it was a waste of useless for the country.
As for the mythical managerial effectiveness of the CPSU, this is also a legend. For years, and for decades, the topic of the OGAS, necessary for a planned economy like air, has been endlessly debated for years - this idea ended up in the classrooms, which resulted in a supply crisis and the black market in the 80s.
For years, they tried to solve the problem of the shortage of everyday goods of various categories, to create adequate equipment for the needs of consumer consumption, in a country that sold billions of wood around the world - furniture for its own population was made from DPS and cardboard, and even this was horseradish.
I am not interested in "angrily stigmatizing the communists", I am simply pointing out that it is not worth singing the praises of either that era or those people.

[major147]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

I am not interested in "angrily stigmatizing the communists", I am simply pointing out that it is not worth singing the praises of either that era or those people.

In my opinion, these are people with the same goals but under different flags. That's all. "From the change of places of the terms ......".

[Roman123567]

the wording was: "In connection with the loss of confidence." This wording was made by the President of Russia.

When will the people "ouster" the president with a similar formulation ..

[senima56]

Ignatiev, of course, the "scumbag" once made the EMERCOM officer jump for the keys!
But the officer of the Ministry of Emergency Situations behaved unworthily - he began to jump! If he didn't have the courage to kick Ignatiev in the face, then at least he could not jump in front of this "master"!

[Mountain shooter]

Crazed with impunity. Didn't want a good one? Then I felled ...

[Gennady Korsunov]

Everyone is in power now. There as in a kennel. While the kennel feeds faithful dogs lick it, only the kennel begins to scream, howl and bark for a stick.

[Prisoner]

And what does this former specific prince count on? Ali's livelihood has dried up against the backdrop of a pandemic and from this in the head tear and aliens with smart tips?

[Catholic]

Quote: Captive

And what does this former specific prince count on?

On returning to the feeding trough.

[Prisoner]

Well, this is unlikely. There is already a new "starving".

[Doctor]

Interesting comments. They say a lot about the situation in the heads of the people of our country.

A man (no matter what morality and from what motives) just sued the boss’s illegal actions.
Normal practice for a normal rule of law.

Grades on VO:

This is just a step of despair on his part. Exactly the same as the doomed to death.

He is not a dog, but just a boor.

Fucked from a sense of own stupidity horseradish from the mountain.

Crazed with impunity.

[Vasily Goncharov]

The next piglet was recaptured from the feeder, the money was stolen from the budget, so to speak, and he began to grunt.

[Babermetis]

The impudent however has got.

[Catholic]

He is not cocky. He is arrogant.

[Karaul73]

Quote: Stas157

The situation is ridiculous. But there are oddities. The disgraced governor lies in a very serious condition in intensive care, on lung ventilation. Ignatiev is definitely not up to the courts now. Maybe someone helps him in this matter ... But the most trouble for the authorities can arise if the former governor suddenly dies in court. Then many will definitely be hyping on this subject.

And, of course, this henchman from Edra cannot be any fighter with the Putin regime, as some here say.

Do you think that there is a game against Putin? Or just a game of democracy?

[BAI]

The case to challenge the dismissal of the head of the region is already being considered as a precedent.

The precedent here is the following - there is no unconditional obedience to Putin's orders. Those. Putin's prestige has dropped to a critical level even among top officials. As they say - "They completely lost their fear." Here and to open disobedience not far. After all, Kadyrov publicly sent Mishustin to hell, although Mishustin is the second after Putin. Now they gradually get to the first person. Moreover, the case immediately ended up in the Supreme Court. His decision will be obvious, but the next step is behind him, immediately - the ECHR. They did not waste time in district, city and regional courts. And the decision of the ECHR is already obvious. I can name him right before the trial.

[depressant]

Of all the statements, your post, a BAI colleague, seems to me to be the closest to the truth.

[Lara Croft]

He sent claims to the Supreme Court. The defendant in the lawsuit of the ex-head of the region was to become President Vladimir Putin, which, according to Ignatiev, allowed the signing of an illegal decree on his removal from office.

Infinite or what? In the place of colleagues of the Ministry of Emergencies of the Russian Federation, I would clean his face ..., and then you can send "to rest" ...

[Reserve buildbat]

The case must be carefully considered, reassigned to libel, at least, and send the former governor to the bunk. It is desirable for life and with the confiscation of the entire family property.

[Irek]

Finally, I have lost my impudence.

[voyaka uh]

The difference between the vertical and horizontal power systems is interesting:
In Russia, the President appoints governors
and can remove them.
In America, state governors are stronger than the country's president.
Only a court can remove them. And then it is very difficult.

[Doctor]

The difference between the vertical and horizontal power systems is interesting:

This is the whole cimus!
In order to completely rule the whole territory, you need absolute power over the leaders of the regions, because you yourself cannot keep up with it everywhere. No wonder at one time it was very difficult to break the election of governors, it took more than a year.

[cat Rusich]

In Ukraine, the president appoints governors (remember the appointment of M. Saakashvili as governor of the Odessa region), but in Ukraine, "democracy" is recognized by the EU and the United States.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: cat Rusich

but in Ukraine "democracy" recognized by the EU and the United States.

Tov. voyaka uh (Alexey) involved in the "Russian direction", about the "democratic" principles of the vertical of power and its division in Ukraine, he is "not aware" ...

[bar]

"In connection with the loss of confidence." This wording was made by the President of Russia.

Does the situation seem absurd to me alone? How can I appeal against a loss of confidence? Trust is either there or not. How can a court decision make someone trust someone?

[Ros 56]

Apparently this bureaucrat materially lost a lot, since he wanted to fight with the darkest. But he is in vain, not his weight (in the sense of the mind) category.

[Karabin]

Quote: Ros 56

But he is in vain, not his weight (in the sense of the mind) category.

Well yes. The one who has secured the status of a raw materials appendage to an entire country has a bigger mind than the one who forced an employee to jump from the Ministry of Emergencies.

[Lara Croft]

[quote = Karabin] [quote = Ros 56] The one who is behind the whole country secured the status of a raw materials appendage, a bigger mind than that of someone who forced an employee from the Ministry of Emergencies to jump up. [/ Quote]
And I didn’t know that before Putin the Moscow Principality / RI / USSR / RF was not a raw materials appendage ...

[Ros 56]

What do you, like parrots, repeat the same thing? Striped like a fire are afraid of this raw materials appendage, because only one country in the world can leave one ashes from them, and this is oddly enough Russia. They don’t talk like that with appendages. And they are not at international events.
Why do not you love your country so much. It is obvious that they forgot the 90s, in what form the country was and who took it seriously.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Ros 56

Why do not you love your country so much. It is obvious that they forgot the 90s, in what form the country was and who took it seriously.

Okay, okay, don’t get nervous the patient .... We love her (Motherland), and who else ....
He just told a comrade that the country, not with the advent of GDP to power, began to trade in hydrocarbons, but much earlier ...., but under Ivan the Terrible they traded hemp and furs for example with Aglitsky merchants .... that did not stop her from taking all of humanity Siberia ... so being someone’s raw materials appendage we (146 million Russians ...) periodically by our actions force the lower lips of the empirialists to twitch ... so as not to relax and remember the existence of a mysterious northern country ...

[Kronos]

Do not be afraid, because he knows he can’t

[123456789]

Quote: KAV

God forbid, even in a sacred sacrifice to him become ...

As a rule, a prominent person is chosen as a sacred victim. If the one who was appointed as a sacred victim is not well known, then he is first "promoted", popularized.

[APASUS]

Here is a ready-made opposition leader, like Misha 2%. What happens to them all there, as soon as they are excommunicated from the feeder, they immediately become ardent champions of justice?

[vkd.dvk]

Leaving the untouchable clan, which can be ALL painful. It is outrageous that this, insignificant nonsense, does not even realize that he is not a disgrace - he is a complete bastard, but the whole normally functioning state structure of the country. Only cruel and purposeful cleaning of such.

[silverwolf88]

a person from the "system" who has gone crazy ... that you need to jump in front of him ... suddenly again wanted the privileges to which he was used to ... no struggle ... just an attempt to return his selfish and sweet ...
I just didn’t have enough character to leave because I screwed up ... it looks nasty ...

[faterdom]

This is wrong. Disgusting and humiliating. He had to confess, repent and ask for a watch. Only 80 years ago, they knew how to work with the "elite" so that their halo would not grow.

[Brigadier]

Come on, if only one Ignatiev is like that.
It would not be scary if he, like him, and those who are on their side ...
Putin could ignore this and work further, without much tension and excitement, having the support of the people.

But here something else is involved ... Much more terrible for Putin !!!
TODAY THE MOST PEOPLE OF RUSSIA DO NOT BELIEVE PUTIN MORE !!!
That's what is scary for him ...

He personally destroyed the people's confidence with his "pension reform", and in fact - "pension robbery", and the people will never forgive him for this.
Our people remember his words about the retirement age of 2005.
And he remembers what Putin did in the near future after the 2018 elections ...
And now, if Putin is pressed hard and he wants the support of the people, then he will not receive it. Well, ours does not like it when they deceive him. He doesn’t like it and that's it ...

So that "mister" Putin, himself row your galley as you can.
The people are no longer your helper.
Somehow we ourselves ... without you, and your fate no longer interests us!

[Chever]

Dragged from a budget feeder? What to do? Come to the opposition!

[lelik613]

The "ampirator" is buried.

[AB]

Once the regions are set free to sail, it will be difficult to bring the power vertical back. Regional elites tasted the taste of unlimited power. So many crazy prohibitions have been introduced and everything is getting away with. So the lawsuit of Mikhail Ignatiev is the first sign in the claims of the regions to the federals. There will be many times more of them after the announcement of the end of the pandemic.