The Tu-22M3M missile carrier passed the test at supersonic speed




The next stage of testing the second flight model of the Tu-22M3M strategic bomber is reported. We are talking about a deep modernization of the missile carrier, which includes new aircraft avionics.

Information Service TASS, citing a source in the defense industry complex, reports that the Tu-22M3M has passed supersonic tests.

It is noted that the missile carriers of the upgraded versions have already completed five flights. During the fourth flight, the test specimen reached the supersonic speed without problems. Reportedly, the strategic missile carrier, created for the Russian Aerospace Forces, in flight on supersonic aircraft demonstrated stability and excellent controllability. All avionics avionics worked in normal mode.

Now the specialists of the aircraft manufacturing enterprise are evaluating the data that were obtained during the “supersonic” flight test. Such an analysis will allow us to conclude that the combat vehicle is ready for the next phase of airborne testing.

According to the latest information, the preliminary test package will be completed for the Tu-22M3M this year.
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  1. Angel_and_Demon 27 May 2020 12: 14 New
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    According to the latest information, the preliminary test package will be completed for the Tu-22M3M this year.
    It would be nice if there were again no shifts in the right
    1. Timon2155 27 May 2020 12: 26 New
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      Good of course. Glider with the old engines, not very changed. What is the essence of the news?
      1. Sky strike fighter 27 May 2020 12: 45 New
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        So this is modernization to the level of Tu-22M3M, and not the construction of new bombers. That is why the glider is the same. Over time, the engines will be changed to the new NK-32-02.
        Long-range Tu-22M3 bombers are massively modernized at the Kazan Aircraft Building Plant. This was announced on May 26 by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu in talks with Vladimir Putin.
        “We have a modernized equipment - Tu-22. These are actually new aircraft, I will not be distracted by technical details. They are being massively modernized at the Kazan plant, ”the head of the military department reported to the president via video link.

        https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/20205261658-j7kwr.html
        1. Ka-52 27 May 2020 12: 57 New
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          Glider with the old engines, not very changed. What is the essence of the news?

          you understand the word glider too literally.
          In fact, when installing new equipment, the aircraft is tested in various flight modes. The operation of the systems and the controllability of the aircraft are checked using new control modules.
          1. novel66 27 May 2020 13: 19 New
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            well, he was supersonic ??? what's the news ?? hydraulic drive in conditions of supersonic fail?
            1. Ka-52 27 May 2020 13: 32 New
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              well, he was supersonic ??? what's the news ?? hydraulic drive in conditions of supersonic fail?

              Yes, if you changed the ABSU or some kind of shift it already requires testing.
            2. Piramidon 27 May 2020 13: 46 New
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              Quote: novel xnumx
              well, he was supersonic ??? what's the news ?? hydraulic drive in conditions of supersonic fail?

              And new stations do not need to check how they will work at these speeds?
              1. novel66 27 May 2020 13: 47 New
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                calculated. I think ... it will work
                1. Piramidon 27 May 2020 13: 50 New
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                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  calculated. I think ... it will work

                  Calculation by calculation, but it is better to confirm and verify in practice. If we rely only on calculations, then then the tests can be omitted?
                  1. novel66 27 May 2020 13: 52 New
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                    of course, but it's just a flyby system called
                    1. Piramidon 27 May 2020 13: 59 New
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                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      it's just a flyby system called

                      These are the nuances of terminology. We started a dialogue not with terms, but with your comment
                      well, he was supersonic ??? what's the news ??

                      That is, you have expressed doubt that the equipment needs to be checked by flying around (testing) it including supersonic.
                      1. novel66 27 May 2020 14: 01 New
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                        it is necessary to check, not a question, but something special is to inflate from this ... well, the working question!
                    2. Piramidon 27 May 2020 14: 04 New
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                      What is the “flyby” of an airplane? This, by and large, is a TEST flight.
                      1. novel66 27 May 2020 14: 07 New
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                        well, with us on the 95th. all the time something from the electronics was changed, once every six months - a sure thing and the flight after that was called "circling the system"
                      2. Piramidon 27 May 2020 14: 16 New
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                        Quote: novel xnumx
                        well, with us on the 95th. all the time something from the electronics was changed, once every six months - a sure thing and the flight after that was called "circling the system"

                        Control flight and test flight, in essence - synonyms. Only professional aviators distinguish nuances. Well, you showed your belonging to them. The article is intended for the eyes of the mass user. I consider that it is not necessary to find fault and indignation. hi
                      3. novel66 27 May 2020 14: 17 New
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                        Yes ! lol it's me, showing off .. hi
                      4. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 05 New
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                        Quote: Piramidon
                        Control flight and test flight, in essence - synonyms.

                        Well, no way .. they have never - a Control flight is a flight to check the operability of systems and assemblies, and a Test flight is a flight to check whether the calculated characteristics match the actual ones.
                      5. Piramidon 27 May 2020 15: 26 New
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                        Quote: ancient
                        Well, no way .. they’ve never-a Control flight is a flight to test the performance of systems and assemblies, and Test is flight to check compliance of calculated characteristics with actual.

                        Suppose we calculated, manufactured and installed a new radar. It is necessary to check in flight the correspondence of calculations to real possibilities. What to call such a flight?
                      6. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 30 New
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                        Quote: Piramidon
                        What to call such a flight?

                        Of course, a test on the topic "Testing the RTS and the radar on ...." (well, there are many flights on different tasks
                2. Ka-52 27 May 2020 14: 27 New
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                  well, with us on the 95th. all the time something from the electronics was changed, once every six months - a sure thing and the flight after that was called "circling the system"

                  such a flight did not become regular. You take a tester or in the instructor’s cabin.
                3. novel66 27 May 2020 14: 34 New
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                  ordinary comasque or from flight regiment deputy flight, engines and glider did not touch electronics alone
                4. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 10 New
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                  Quote: Ka-52
                  such a flight did not become regular. You take a tester or in the instructor’s cabin.

                  Not once ... When you accept at the factory, you fly around the accepted plane (after repair). according to the Acceptance Test Program by its full-time crew (which is naturally admitted to such types of flights, overflights and flights).
                  When delivering a new pre-production car, only testers fly (LIIyevsky on the right, and GLITsevsky on the left).
    2. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 03 New
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      Quote: Piramidon
      And new stations do not need to be checked,

      Which stations? belay
      1. Piramidon 27 May 2020 15: 28 New
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        Quote: ancient
        Which stations?

        Those who installed. Well, for the most meticulous, let there be not stations, but equipment, in the broad sense.
        1. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 31 New
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          Quote: Piramidon
          and equipment, in a broad sense.

          Well this is a completely different matter wink
    3. Elephant 28 May 2020 11: 25 New
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      Quote: Piramidon
      And new stations do not need to check how they will work at these speeds?

      But it wasn’t easier to disperse these new stations in a centrifuge to find out how exactly the speed affects them ???
      1. Piramidon 28 May 2020 11: 37 New
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        Quote: Elephant
        But it wasn’t easier to disperse these new stations in a centrifuge to find out how exactly the speed affects them ???

        Is that your banter? Set the centrifuge at an altitude of 12-15 km to check the range? + Moreover, in a centrifuge at such a speed, centrifugal force will crush all equipment.
        1. Elephant 28 May 2020 11: 45 New
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          And here the height, there are only two factors - temperature and discharged air. And centrifugal force - why not. During a maneuver, such as avoiding a rocket, centrifugal forces arise.
          1. Piramidon 28 May 2020 12: 21 New
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            Quote: Elephant
            And here the height, there are only two factors - temperature and discharged air. And centrifugal force - why not. During a maneuver, such as avoiding a rocket, centrifugal forces arise.

            The range of the same sights, locators ... depends on the flight altitude. And centrifugal forces, if the centrifuge is theoretically accelerated to supersonic speed, will exceed all permissible overloads. Centrifuges for training pilots and astronauts have a linear speed of up to 250 km / h (far from supersonic sound) At this speed, overload reaches 30g
  2. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 02 New
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    Quote: novel xnumx
    well, he was supersonic ??? what's the news ?? hydraulic drive in conditions of supersonic fail?

    These flights are to check the receivers of statics and dynamics as well as LDPE, as the configuration of the fairing changed.
    1. Elephant 28 May 2020 11: 30 New
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      I think these results can also be obtained in a wind tunnel !!! But maybe we are not looking for easy ways and do not count money.
      1. ancient 28 May 2020 12: 39 New
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        Quote: Elephant
        I think these results can also be obtained in a wind tunnel !!!

        Yes, this is done, because the bulk of the "strength" tests take place on the ground and then the "strength" constraints are "laid", and the air is already checked for compliance with the calculated values ​​(of course, to operational values, although very often it happens ... much more bully ) for compliance with the actual parameters.
  • ancient 27 May 2020 14: 55 New
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    Quote: Ka-52
    you understand the word glider too literally.

    Timon2155 (Timur), in principle, normally raised the question (as a person who is not very dedicated to the "subtlety" of the process).
    Normal flights according to the flight test program for “crimping” according to the RIAT, part 1 verbatim the program “name-calling like this” “Evaluation of strength characteristics; Flight strength tests”.
    And then what are you writing about, dear, this is already "Assessment of stability and controllability" wink
  • Lozovik 27 May 2020 13: 12 New
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    So this is modernization to the level of Tu-22M3M, and not the construction of new bombers. That is why the glider is the same. Over time, the engines will be changed to the new NK-32-02.

    It's impossible. Engines have different drive boxes, different attachment points (for their nacelles), different control systems (ESUD-25, ESUD-32), different nozzles (ejector and self-made) ... In short, they are not interchangeable.
  • ancient 27 May 2020 14: 59 New
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    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    . Therefore, the glider is the same. Over time, the engines will be changed to the new NK-32-02.

    You can’t “cram” the NK-32-02 into the “box” of the NK-25 on the current Tu-22M3 glider. have to redo a lot.
    1. Elephant 28 May 2020 11: 33 New
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      Indeed, not everything is so simple, we do not have flexible production.
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  • VO3A 27 May 2020 17: 13 New
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    These are actually new aircraft, I will not be distracted by technical details.

    Another storyteller, stupid, also the president ...
    New airplanes have a designated resource of about 30 years ... with the possibility of renewal .. It is very interesting to these old-new airplanes what resource is given for repair for 5 years or more, or maybe an extension every year or something else was invented for these outdated dinosaurs with an ancient design ... Maybe someone has information?
    1. Lozovik 27 May 2020 17: 27 New
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      New aircraft have a designated resource of about 30 years ...

      The service life is 25 years, the assigned resource is measured in hours.
      1. VO3A 27 May 2020 17: 35 New
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        Another ICE ... Funny ...
        1. Lozovik 27 May 2020 17: 42 New
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          NIAS-78 or NIAO-90 to help. Did you find out the assigned resource of the aircraft 45-03, finally?
          1. VO3A 27 May 2020 17: 46 New
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            Well, well, help yourself to restore the memory ... And in years and in hours resources are measured ... If in hours it is tight, then in years usually before the next repair the figure is + 1 year ... I have C52, C54, T6, T8 T10 closer ...
            1. Lozovik 27 May 2020 18: 01 New
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              Quote: VO3A
              Both years and hours measure resources

              From the current FAP IAO:

              34. The following assigned durability indicators are established for aircraft:

              the assigned resource before the first repair (the total operating time established in the regulatory documentation from the commissioning of the AT sample to its transfer to the first repair, regardless of the technical condition);

              designated overhaul life (the total operating time established in the regulatory documentation from the completion of the repair of the AT sample to the direction of it for the next repair, regardless of the technical condition);

              the assigned resource before decommissioning or the full resource (the total operating time established in the regulatory documentation from the commissioning of the AT sample to its final decommissioning, regardless of the technical condition);

              the designated service life until the first repair (the calendar operating time specified in the regulatory documentation from the commissioning of the AT sample to its delivery to the first repair, regardless of the technical condition);

              the appointed overhaul life (the calendar duration of operation specified in the regulatory documentation from the completion of the repair of the AT sample to the direction of it for the next repair, regardless of the technical condition);

              the assigned service life before decommissioning or the full service life (the calendar operating time specified in the regulatory documentation from the commissioning of the AT sample to its final decommissioning, regardless of the technical condition).


              Quote: VO3A
              Me C52, C54, T6, T8, T10 closer ...

              Why then write, just do not know?
              1. VO3A 27 May 2020 18: 06 New
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                calendar operation time

                What are they telling you ... Can you read?
                The nit-picking is small ... An airplane does not always produce the assigned resource within the service life, and then repair and write it off by year ...
                1. Lozovik 27 May 2020 18: 16 New
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                  FAP IAO establishes longevity indicators - resources and service life. Which of these is incomprehensible?
                2. VO3A 27 May 2020 18: 18 New
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                  I’m all, do I ask questions? Someone has a short haircut !!! I’m interested in the possible resource of these old-new Tu-22M3Ms ... And not your demagogy with the accuracy of the definitions ... And even more interesting is who will give this resource from the point of view of the law ... The plant has no right, and the research institute can only extend the resource for a certain time and a raid ... Now it is clear ???
                3. ancient 27 May 2020 20: 23 New
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                  Quote: VO3A
                  I'm interested in a possible resource of these old-new Tu-22M3M.

                  I already answered you with numbers -
                  designated overhaul resource - 3000 l. hour. (1500 landings);
                  - appointed overhaul service life - 10 + 3 years.
                  Quote: VO3A
                  And not your demagoguery with precision definitions

                  This is not demagogy, but .. "pulling you into clean water" ...... do not move out .... it will not work
                  wassat
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                  Quote: VO3A
                  And even more interesting is who will give this resource in terms of law.

                  All the same as before - according to the results of research and work carried out by the design bureau and the plant, a decision is made, which (previously approved by the Federal Air Transport Agency) is now the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation.
            2. ancient 27 May 2020 20: 06 New
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              Quote: VO3A
              What are they telling you ... Can you read?
              The nitpicking is small ..

              "Jump" here you will not succeed ... because ... HERE you do not ...... wassat
              Here is your quote (why it all happened) - ".... For new aircraft Assigned resource for about 30 years...with the possibility of extension .. Very interesting, these old-new planes, what resource is given before repair 5 years or more,...."
              You are stupidly calling CALENDAR TIME .... RESOURCE.
              "We sat in a puddle", so have the courage to admit it wassat
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      2. ancient 27 May 2020 20: 03 New
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        Both years and hours measure resources.

        Once again I will repeat for the DONSE - TIME IN YEARS .... and RESOURCES in HOURS and in quantities of FLIGHTS and LANDINGS.
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  • ancient 27 May 2020 20: 01 New
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    Another ICE ... Funny ...

    Oh how are you .. arrogantly as well Lozovik 100% right
    Dates in years, resources in hours (as well as in flights and landings).
    What’s funny ... or from what you don’t know? wink
  • ancient 27 May 2020 19: 58 New
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    New aircraft have a designated resource of about 30 years ..

    It was 25 years with ... further extension in technical condition.
    At the moment, a decision has been made (by all interested departments and organizations) that, based on the results of the next repair, the products should have an overhaul life and a calendar life up to the next repair, equal to the overhaul life and the life of the main facility:
    - designated overhaul resource - 3000 l. hour. (1500 landings);
    - The appointed interrepair period of operation is 10 + 3 years.
    1. VO3A 27 May 2020 21: 27 New
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      the overhaul life and the calendar life are set until the next repair

      In fact, an overhaul resource or a calendar period, because repairs are carried out on the first event ...
  • alexmach 27 May 2020 18: 15 New
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    Over time, the engines will be changed to the new NK-32-02.

    With time? Well, obviously not for that. For him, this is most likely the last modernization.
  • iouris 27 May 2020 12: 17 New
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    Test or flyby?
    1. Ciklop 27 May 2020 12: 24 New
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      Quote: iouris
      Test or flyby?

      So far the test ..! That's how many “Daggers” can be hung on him, it’s interesting to hide
      1. Sky strike fighter 27 May 2020 12: 36 New
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        Most likely, instead of Daggers, the Tu-22M3M will carry 8 GZUR or 8 X-50.6 inside and 2 on external suspensions.
        All the same, the dagger is heavier. About 4 tons weight. And it will turn out in the best case to carry 4 daggers on external suspensions. With this option, the radius of combat use of the Tu-22M3M will suffer. So GZUR and X-50 are preferable.
        1. Ciklop 27 May 2020 14: 00 New
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          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Most likely, instead of Daggers, the Tu-22M3M will carry 8 GZUR or 8 X-50.6 inside and 2 on external suspensions.
          All the same, the dagger is heavier. About 4 tons weight. And it will turn out in the best case to carry 4 daggers on external suspensions. With this option, the radius of combat use of the Tu-22M3M will suffer. So GZUR and X-50 are preferable.

          What a talker you are however lol ..A find for spies! negative
          1. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 21 New
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            Quote: Ciklop
            What a talker you are however

            This is different .. "call names", but the rules of the site are prohibited wassat
            Quote: Ciklop
            A find for spies!

            These are for us .. "find" ... as the "adversaries" and revered ... immediately resort to surrender fellow
          2. Sky strike fighter 27 May 2020 15: 50 New
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            Quote: Ciklop
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            Most likely, instead of Daggers, the Tu-22M3M will carry 8 GZUR or 8 X-50.6 inside and 2 on external suspensions.
            All the same, the dagger is heavier. About 4 tons weight. And it will turn out in the best case to carry 4 daggers on external suspensions. With this option, the radius of combat use of the Tu-22M3M will suffer. So GZUR and X-50 are preferable.

            What a talker you are however lol ..A find for spies! negative

            As if someone else is not in the courses that the GZUR was tested from the Tu-22M3M?
        2. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 19 New
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          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Most likely, instead of Daggers, the Tu-22M3M will carry 8 GZUR or 8 X-50.6 inside and 2 on external suspensions.

          Yeah ... and on the "ridge" another "turret mount wassat
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          All the same, the dagger is heavier.

          And let's get those 5 ... another one in h / o hide lol
          1. Sky strike fighter 27 May 2020 15: 59 New
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            In the turret Tu-22M3M 6 KP and 2 more KP on two wings - 1 KP on each wing.
            5 Daggers will not work. Only 4.
            In addition to the X-32 missiles, the Tu-22M3M will be able to carry up to four X-47M2 dagger hypersonic missiles. As Popular Mechanics, a popular publication in the West, noted, such a combination will allow the Russian air forces to strike from long distances without entering the enemy’s air defense zone. The author of the publication emphasized that with a bomber’s flight range of 5,5 thousand kilometers and a dagger’s flight range of 1900 kilometers, the Tu-22M3M is capable of destroying a target at a distance of up to 7400 kilometers from the airfield.

            https://ria.ru/20190830/1557917174.html
            1. ancient 27 May 2020 16: 16 New
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              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              In the turret Tu-22M3M 6 KP and 2 more KP on two wings - 1 KP on each wing.

              Well, just in case ... on two planes ... but not on ... the "wings", since the wing is ONE wassat (according to the monoplane scheme) wink
              And such a layout for the deployment of RVs on an airplane themselves .. "invented" wassat ?
              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              5 Daggers will not work. Only 4.

              What ... "newspaper" does not allow ....?
              And didn’t think that the supersonic flight mode is an indispensable condition for obtaining a long launch range for the “Dagger”?
              And what specific fuel consumption of NK-25 engines in afterburner operation do you know ?.
              So your "newspaper" with "your .. range" ... only in one place to use ... previously ... stretching wassat
              And "tie" any "crap" here to post ... otherwise the right is not even convenient to read.
      2. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 11 New
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        Quote: Ciklop
        While the test

        It will be more correct ... MORE.
        Quote: Ciklop
        That's how many “Daggers” can be hung on him, it’s interesting to hide

        Not at all soldier
      3. Alex777 27 May 2020 17: 18 New
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        The dagger is both heavy and great.
        And the speed of the Tu-22M3M is not like that of the MiG-31.
        It seems to me that the GZUR, which they recently wrote about what they experienced, will be put on.
        It is smaller in size and weighs about 1,5 tons. hi
    2. novel66 27 May 2020 13: 19 New
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      rather, realistically
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        Quote: novel xnumx
        rather, realistically

        Modernized to see not bad ... I can imagine how they stuffed it there and the engines were forced ....
        We are waiting for the first duty in the sky and the reaction of "our partners" .. hi
        1. novel66 27 May 2020 14: 09 New
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          why stuff there? systems for targeting new missiles and the latest electronic warfare, and engines do not make much sense to force - which the glider will not pull and the engines will not stretch
          1. Sling cutter 27 May 2020 14: 22 New
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            Quote: novel xnumx
            why stuff there? systems for targeting new missiles and the latest electronic warfare, and engines do not make much sense to force - which the glider will not pull and the engines will not stretch

            And here the only question is, what’s the cartridge or weapon ahead? The product or its delivery? Strategy or tactics?
            1. novel66 27 May 2020 14: 23 New
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              dance or music? text or font ... chicken or egg ???
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                Quote: novel xnumx
                dance or music? text or font ... chicken or egg ???

                Well, yes, you gradually begin to comprehend what has been said. yes
                In short, first ammunition and then its carrier.
                Threat. only a select few dance to the funeral march. wink
        2. ancient 27 May 2020 15: 26 New
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          Quote: Ciklop
          I can imagine how they stuffed it there and the engines forced ....

          It's like sorry ..... due to what suddenly .. "forced" engine "?
    3. Piramidon 27 May 2020 14: 06 New
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      Quote: iouris
      Test or flyby?

      Do not find fault with the terms. They are for professionals. Control flyby - test flight of the aircraft before commissioning.
    4. VO3A 27 May 2020 17: 32 New
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      Of course, a test .. On supersonic planes that have run out of airframe life, they check that it does not fall apart in supersound, in all modes and permissible overloads, and then check for cracks and damage ... Maybe it won’t work, and so on each copy, just like in an old joke about a woman and a spacesuit ...
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  • G. Georgiev 27 May 2020 13: 02 New
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    ..An empty article without any information !!! And another: conservative negligence is observed. What rockets can use, this wonderful aircraft, with 24t, payload. It is a pity that such conservative engineers are wasting his resources. X-32, X-50, X-101, etc.
    1. Piramidon 27 May 2020 15: 00 New
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      Quote: G. Georgiev
      What rockets can use, this wonderful aircraft, with 24t, payload.

      For what purpose are you interested, a representative of a NATO member country? Spy or something? winked
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      Yours of course will be abruptly, just too shy to ask a name.
  • Charik 27 May 2020 15: 14 New
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    this is how much? -1,2,3tyschi
  • Ros 56 27 May 2020 17: 41 New
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    So what exactly is supersonic, 1M or 2M?
    1. Rushnairfors 27 May 2020 18: 25 New
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      2 I’m afraid I won’t do it, in any case, with the engines that are currently repaired and capitalized in the trash, it’s unlikely that 1,7 I think I can do it, I flew extreme supersonic seven months ago, 1,4 it’s hard on old engines
      1. Lozovik 27 May 2020 19: 57 New
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        I remember Samara specialists came to the NK-22 after 800 hours of operation and directly carried out a set of work to extend the resource by first 100, then 50 hours, without losing altitude and speed characteristics.

        By the way, the production of the E-Series 2 product has nevertheless been decided to resume.
        1. Rushnairfors 28 May 2020 04: 00 New
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          Now, too, representatives are constantly at the unit, a lot of warranty engines, after kapitalki. As for the resumption of production, it would be nice, a lot of mat. Parts on the engines is worth it.
  • vkd.dvk 27 May 2020 18: 17 New
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    Quote: novel xnumx
    well, with us on the 95th. all the time something from the electronics was changed, once every six months - a sure thing and the flight after that was called "circling the system"

    The designer has a different terminology and tasks. The volume, program and test procedure depends on the number and significance of the changes.
    Since the changes caused changes in the name of the modifications, new elements are added to the abbreviation, and therefore, the changes are significant. A small thing, even if there is a lot of it, does not change the name. All matters are agreed with the Customer Representative, and making assumptions HERE is completely pointless.
  • vkd.dvk 27 May 2020 18: 21 New
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    Quote: Ros 56
    So what exactly is supersonic, 1M or 2M?

    Speed, less than was achieved before, never when will not be accepted by the Customer’s Representative (PZ). What kind of MODERNIZATION worsens one of the main parameters? PZ does not know how to go back.
  • vkd.dvk 27 May 2020 18: 23 New
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    ..An empty article without any information !!! And another: conservative negligence is observed. What rockets can use, this wonderful aircraft, with 24t, payload. It is a pity that such conservative engineers are wasting his resources. X-32, X-50, X-101, etc.

    Only your comments were expected here. Without you, after all, no way.
    Go, upgrade MIG-21 airplanes. You have a lot of them. And the tasks of bringing to NATO level are complex and expensive.
  • vkd.dvk 27 May 2020 18: 28 New
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    I’m all, do I ask questions? Someone has a short haircut !!! I’m interested in the possible resource of these old-new Tu-22M3Ms ... And not your demagogy with the accuracy of the definitions ... And even more interesting is who will give this resource from the point of view of the law ... The plant has no right, and the research institute can only extend the resource for a certain time and a raid ... Now it is clear ???

    Demagogy - in the multiplicity and uncertainty of terminology. There are standard ones accepted everywhere by professionals. Chatter with invented on the go, for talkers.
    Are you one of those?
  • vkd.dvk 27 May 2020 18: 32 New
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    Quote: novel xnumx
    why stuff there? systems for targeting new missiles and the latest electronic warfare, and engines do not make much sense to force - which the glider will not pull and the engines will not stretch

    Why only marshall epaulettes give such and diots? He asks questions from the asphalt, without essence in the head.
  • vkd.dvk 27 May 2020 22: 27 New
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    Another ICE ... Funny ...

    Another connoisseur .... do not chop, do not go.
    1. Rushnairfors 28 May 2020 03: 50 New
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      You look hack specifically, especially how to insult people!
  • FRoman1984 28 May 2020 00: 37 New
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    The chances of the aircraft are zero. Someone is not waiting for him in the videoconferencing, why is he for the Indians ....
    1. Rushnairfors 28 May 2020 03: 47 New
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      Indians here are yours ???
      1. FRoman1984 28 May 2020 04: 55 New
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        Quote: Rushnairfors
        Indians here are yours ???

        Sorry, missed. It was about the chances of the MiG-35, I will delete the comment.
  • chetbor 28 May 2020 19: 45 New
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    Something I did not understand a fig - who is testing it - GLITS or factory.
    If the compression and supersonic - then the factory should do (did before)