Trail above the wave: the departure of the F-35C below the plane of the deck of the aircraft carrier hit the video

Noteworthy videos were posted on social networks. They depicted the F-35C fighter of the US Navy taking off from an American aircraft carrier. In this case, the catapult operates with the minimum power that is necessary for the successful launch of the aircraft into the air.

In the first video, the fighter, passing the ship's track at extremely low speed, “falls through” the deck. In other words, the plane descends below the plane of the deck. After a moment, the plane appears again, gradually gaining altitude.

In the second video, against the background of the ship's bow, the F-35C, taking off from the deck, decreases to a critical height, literally gliding over the waves. It even leaves an inversion trail on the water before rising into the air.

According to the author of the materials RCAF_Pilot, who posted them on Instagram, these maneuvers were part of the F-35C testing, in which the minimum catapult power needed to safely launch aircraft was estimated.

Good thing we have test pilots for this!

- writes RCAF_Pilot.

According to The War Zone, these were indeed tests, since the pilots did not transfer the machines to afterburning flight, which was logical in an emergency of this kind.

It must have been a hell of a workout!

- indicates The War Zone.

The network noted the composure of the pilot.

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You seen the earlier video from the deck, now check out how close to the water the F-35C actually was! #Repost @cincohamilton ・ ・ ・ Watch the waters part because of the engine exhaust !! Here's the last video, low energy catapult testing, from the front of the ship camera view. You can tell from this angle that the aircraft got close to the water. Remember though, this was a part of the testing and the team had prepared for this moment. #aviation #aviationphotography # f35 #aircraftcarrier # f35c #fightertestpilot #testpilot #ussnimitz #catapult #lowenergy #partingwaters #fighterpilot

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Comments

[K-612-O]

Risky guys, but I'm afraid the Hornets will be the basis of carrier-based aviation for a long time, they are too good and reliable, but there is a separate version of the electronic warfare

[vkl.47]

Maniacs they are. For the time being such tricks

[loki565]

Rather, this is a mistake, there is clearly not enough engine thrust and the plane is very sagging. We then too, are training to sweep the deck)))

[Cyclop]

Quote: loki565

Rather, this is a mistake, there is clearly not enough engine thrust and the plane is very sinking.

Maybe the F-35 pilots should take off in diving suits ..?

[Pete mitchell]

There, in the article, everything is written and translated - the guys have strong nerves.
But the clip from the Su-33 is certainly cool, but a mistake

[AlexVas44]

Good thing we have test pilots for this!
- writes RCAF_Pilot.

Probably a large supply of such guys with strong nerves.

[opus]

Quote: loki565

We then too, are training to sweep the deck)))

we have a landing (empty and screwed up)
they take off (fuel, ammunition) on a pitching ...
Ps / for this "incident" it is clear that the aircraft carrier "pecked" .. The deck "went" down during La takeoff and it was not 0 degrees on the horizon

[loki565]

they take off (fuel, ammunition)

Here you cannot determine whether there is a bk or not and how much fuel, but it is clear that the engine thrust is not enough, even taking into account the acceleration by the catapult. Obviously an error with the choice of the engine mode. Ours happened that even on the "handbrake" took off and without a drawdown

[opus]

Quote: loki565

Here you can’t determine if there is BC or not and how much fuel

the brain in his head is what to think ...
These were "F-35C Low Energy Catapult Launch Testing"

who in their right mind would be on a test without afterburning to load BC and fuel in full?

Quote: loki565

Ours happened that even on the "handbrake" took off and without a drawdown

1. what "handbrake"
2. he is landing, dry, the mass is minimal. fast and furious landing always. took advantage
It’s just a pitching and the launch team laughed

hundreds of meters pecking deck for a flat surface — substantially

[loki565]

who in their right mind would be on a test without afterburning to load BC and fuel in full?

uh, your words)))

we have a landing (empty and screwed up)
they take off (fuel, ammunition) on a pitching ...

1. what "handbrake"

Take off with fully locked rear landing gear.

2. he is landing, dry, the mass is minimal. fast and furious landing always. took advantage

Who?

[Simargl]

Quote: vkl.47

Maniacs they are. For the time being such tricks

More like a cable break or slip. They sit down from the throttle to full.

[loki565]

No, this is a regular takeoff, you can see that the catapult is "hovering"

[Simargl]

Quote: loki565

it is clear that the catapult is "hovering"

Only the boot is not visible. A catapult steamиt in standby mode.

[Reserve buildbat]

They have interesting tests ... Without turning on afterburner, take off like that. I suspect that during take-off uranium scrap can be bitten.

[vvvjak]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Without turning on afterburner so take off.

So because they introduced restrictions on the use of afterburner, and now they are trying to work out the take-off techniques without it.

[abrakadabre]

So because they introduced restrictions on the use of afterburner, and now they are trying to work out the take-off techniques without it.

Restrictions on afterburner after all seemed to concern only supersonic? At lower speeds, they can fly afterburner as much as they like. At least from take-off to landing.

[vvvjak]

Quote: abrakadabre

Restrictions on afterburner after all seemed to concern only supersonic?

Not at all a fact. For example from yesterday's article:

During a long flight at maximum supersonic mode, fuel is burned especially intensely. This not only affects the stealth coverage, but also by itself reduces the parameters of stealth aircraft.

... https://topwar.ru/171575-amerikanskij-letchik-ispytatel-rasskazal-o-prichinah-puzyrenija-stels-pokrytija-v-hvostovoj-chasti-f-35.
those. the torch itself on the afterburner damages the stealth coating even in flight, and here it also rests on the deck.

[abrakadabre]

Not at all a fact. For example from yesterday's article:

With long flight at maximum supersonic mode especially intensively burned fuel.

At maximum supersonic mode. Less than about 1 Mach can not be afraid and afterburner. Maybe they want to lift their nose in pitch, so that the plane almost gets on its tail (but before losing stability), and compensate for this with the afterburner mode of the engine. And so fly at a speed of 200-300-400 km / h the whole flight.

[Eugene-Eugene]

buckling

it’s like a corkscrew, he is always in the subject of "figure skating", not to mention individual techniques of combat aerobatics. And on the bell "loss of stability" is generally part of the maneuver.

This, in theory, should chew on MO, but in the heads of their "analysts" a complete mess: https://structure.mil.ru/structure/forces/air/media/photo/gallery.htm?id=4913@cmsPhotoGallery

[opus]

Quote: vvvjak

So because they introduced restrictions on the use of afterburner,

1. Experienced a catapult. It was "empty". and without afterburner
2.

Greg Ulmer, Lockheed Martin F-35 Program Manager, said there was not a single instance of this problem. / bubble coating / in the operational fleet and that the incidents were limited to "the highest extremes of flight test conditions, which are unlikely to be reproduced in everyday operation."

According to a new document, a new coating, which was introduced in Lot 8, can withstand higher temperatures caused by afterburner. AtInter characterized the material as capable of withstanding “what we call a heat-shock wave”, but refused to indicate how the coating works or what protection it provides.

F-35C can fly on Max 1.3 in afterburner mode tonly for 50 "cumulative" (probably meaning "total" without pauses of less than 3 minutes) seconds, which means that the pilot cannot count 50 seconds at this speed, slow down for a couple of seconds and then pick up speed again. However, the time requirements are reset after the pilot operates at rated power - for three minutes.

enough for take-off on afterburner.

Quote: abrakadabre

At lower speeds, they can fly afterburner as much as they like.

Does supersonic bubble paint or temperature?
Shl. in the afterburner, the heat is quickly "carried away" from the dangerous keel zone. But on the NW, the impact of the flow is certainly greater
Although they "felt" it when

Both flaws were first discovered at the end of 2011. after flutter tests, when the F-35B and F-35C both flew at Mach 1.3 and Mach 1.4. During a post-flight inspection in November 2011, it was discovered that the F-35B stealth coating steadily “bubbles [and] swells” on the right and left sides of the horizontal tail and tail boom.

[Simargl]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Uranium scrap can be snacked.

Not very strong uranium. That would be able to cope with tungsten ...

[Archon]

uranium is softer than steel. let them chew cast iron!

[Vladimir_2U]

US-sheep flyers are not the last, to say the least.

It even leaves an inversion trail on the water before rising into the air.

Rather, a trace from jet and satellite jets.

[novel66]

and when, it does include afterburner

[hydrox]

EMNIP, inversion is the condensation of water vapor under the conditions of heat exchange processes that occur when air volumes of different densities are mixed, flowing around the aircraft’s surface during flight.
There was no inversion in the video (at low flow velocities there are no conditions for the formation of inversion), but there was evaporation of water by hot exhaust.

[Pete mitchell]

Roma shh, if afterburner was not included, then it is no longer included in such situations,

[novel66]

with fear ?? what do you want to include !!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: novel xnumx

with fear ?? what do you want to include !!

Rum, in the situation as in the clip - this cannot be done ..., simply impossible

[novel66]

traction will sag?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: novel xnumx

traction will sag?

Well, you yourself know everything ...
Although my classmate drove LSI at such angles at sunset that even afterburner did not help, thank God it did not crash when turned on. From the neighbor I went to the strip with the tail forward, it really just fell. Over the end, I decided to see where he was and slightly bent the handle away from himself - he successfully plopped down on concrete, lucky ..

[novel66]

in our aisle one pilot came in with a roll of 30 degrees, we already closed our eyes - but pulled out. with touching one of the racks of the strip ...

[novel66]

However, V. Gordienko, on the pages of the Wings of the Motherland magazine, recalled that Bezhevets nevertheless jumped out for three Ms, after which he, backed up by objective control data, made excuses for a long time: “... a rocket is being launched at you "

[MMX]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

US-sheep flyers are not the last, to say the least.

Given the fact that carrier-based aviation is almost the most difficult, it will not be a strong exaggeration to call them the best.

[prior]

The "penguin" rushed into its native element, but the pilot did not allow it ....
It is significant: how to make a spectacular trick out of gouging, such as this is a test.

[Greenwood]

Quote: prior

like from gouging

And what is the "carelessness" here?

[prior]

Do you really believe that such a "drawdown" is a planned test?
Me not.

[Greenwood]

Quote from the article.

These maneuvers were part of the F-35C testing, which evaluated the minimum catapult power needed to safely launch aircraft.

What exactly do you find to be inappropriate for the truth ?!

[prior]

Smart phrase after an unsuccessful take-off. It is impossible to double-check.

[hydrox]

The pilot is not to blame: he honestly fulfilled the condition of takeoff after low-power catapult.
On the contrary, he was well done that he was not at a loss and at the last moment the afterburner nevertheless stuck it and saved the car. And the failure to take off (and the real possibility of a catastrophe) must be assigned to the RP (or higher command) - he is responsible for everything that can happen to an aircraft on deck during flights.

[Lynx-z]

I, too, when I stumble, I say that it was part of the teachings

[KVU-NSVD]

The pilot's nerves are like ropes, here we must pay tribute. Here, on a motorcycle from a meter-high parapet, I had to jump off and then adrenaline, and here on an airplane I "fall" from the bow of the ship, albeit in a controlled situation ... I hope the ship was at least not on the move, otherwise it was some kind of stunt

[demo]

It seems to me or I'm wrong - planes take off from a moving aircraft carrier.
And on the deck, the deck swayed, despite the almost absent excitement.

[Avior]

Correctly
So it is necessary, the movement against the wind.
More stable take-off

[Liam]

Quote: Avior

Correctly
So it is necessary, the movement against the wind.
More stable take-off

Wind speed + aircraft carrier speed is an additional stream of air on the planes. If the conditionally necessary take-off speed of the aircraft is 300 km, then 30 nodes of the aircraft carrier + 10 winds and the aircraft itself must be accelerated with a catapult only to 220 km. These are lesser airframe loads and increased combat load. In the same way, these speeds when landing

[Prisoner]

What else can he do? You can't say, "Stop, I'll get out." Just stretch out and hope that it will carry.

[Phoenix]

Operations on an aircraft carrier need to be carried out on the go. If I am not mistaken optimally - 4 knots. The ship in drift is not controlled, more prone to rolling.

[novel66]

on the go and to the wind with your nose, a small increase in take-off power

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: novel xnumx

on the go and to the wind with your nose, a small increase in take-off power

Yes, that’s understandable. I mean, if this is a test, as stated in the note, then on the go, if there wasn’t enough thrust, then the crashed plane gets directly under the going ship. Dangerous for testing. And if not tests, then it is not clear why the afterburner did not turn it on.

[novel66]

I’ll tell you a secret - if it gurgles in the water, the Avik will not have time to catch it, will dive that it’s your dolphin .. here are the catapults they have there, you need to take a look

[Avior]

Not so small
Even if there is no wind.

[novel66]

Well, 30 knots, it seems, gives 55 km / h, not so little .. the sixth part, somewhere

[Avior]

Even the fifth
Plus headwind

[novel66]

sin not to use!

[knn54]

Naval aviation is the elite of the US Air Force. And "amateurs" can hardly be found there.
The main thing that carried. Not a pilot, of course.

[Krasnodar]

Military pilots around the world - crazy extremes

[Vasyan1971]

The network noted the composure of the pilot.

Supposed composure. Nobody checked his diapers after the flight. And the bench press there is concrete, of course! Respect, without a market!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vasyan1971

The network noted the composure of the pilot.

Supposed composure. Nobody checked his diapers after the flight. And the bench press there is concrete, of course! Respect, without a market!

No, the pilot is certainly well done, but given that the United States is hostile to Russia and these "exercises" are training flight crews to participate in external b / operations, including against Russia, it would be better if this penguin buried in water.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nyrobsky

it would be better if this penguin buried itself in the water.

Well, you can’t seriously count on this ...
Unfortunately.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Quote: Nyrobsky

it would be better if this penguin buried itself in the water.

Well, you can’t seriously count on this ...
Unfortunately.

Sorry I see here some "compassionate" drown for mattresses and mold cons for the fact that their idols were "dressed in diapers" and wished the plane to become a "bathyscaphe". Fight on the side of the enemy so to speak

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Fight on the side of the enemy, so to speak

Well I do not know . Here it is rather a question of the personal qualities and professionalism of the pilot, because they cannot be taken away, and we must admit.

[Nyrobsky]

Well, the personal qualities of the pilot approval was expressed

Quote: Vasyan1971

Respect, without a market!

Quote: Nyrobsky

the pilot is certainly well done,

It’s just that I don’t feel love or awe for mattresses, for the reason that they openly call Russia an enemy and do not hide their actions against Russia both on the information-ideological field and economically in order to cause damage, and therefore, in no way I can not wish them success.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Nyrobsky

I just don’t feel love or awe for mattresses

Similarly!

[val43]

And what, does Russia treat them differently?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: val43

And what, does Russia treat them differently?

I don’t presume to speak for all of Russia, but I only voice my position.

[IL-64]

And what, it would be necessary to rejoice in the death of the pilot in case of an unsuccessful outcome? Catch my minus

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: IL-64

And what, it would be necessary to rejoice in the death of the pilot in case of an unsuccessful outcome? Catch my minus

Well, the pilot would most likely be saved, and minus one unit in the fleet of the probable enemy would undoubtedly please. And yes, minus return

[Mountain shooter]

Very risky. The landing gear barely caught the water. I don't believe in such tests. The likelihood of gurgling is too high.

[post]

To each fu 35 on a big wave.

[GMM]

To develop this element, an aircraft carrier and carrier-based aircraft are needed.
At training grounds (NITKA) in Saki and Yeysk this is not to be done.

[Avior]

And the catapult too, do not forget

[rocket757]

Such a job, nothing unusual in general.

[novel66]

I looked here - the height of the flight deck above the waterline is 12 meters. no, Vit, you can’t call such an ordinary job

[rocket757]

We are talking about test pilots, and there are no ACCIDENTS. Just crazy there is nothing to do. This is an ELITE that performs very complex, but just for them, familiar work.
If the pilot was offered to disperse and smack into the ground ... try to survive while doing this, then yes, that would be extremely extreme for them !!!

[Free wind]

At least not sickly.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Free Wind

At least not sickly.

The pilot has a job, he `` flies '' the plane ...

[voyaka uh]

To date, two aircraft carriers operate one training squadron F-35C. The third is being formed on another aircraft carrier. First, each will have one, then two. The rest is F-18.

[Vadim Zhivov]

That's interesting for what minus then? Just for the information ... Well, where are we going ????

[MMX]

Quote: VadimLives

That's interesting for what minus then? Just for the information ... Well, where are we going ????

He wrote the information, but he thought it was quite possible something bad. Or maybe even then what kind of trouble he will write ... so they decided in advance and put a bolt in order

[Kunica]

It’s good when you know that the catapult is at a minimum and you are ready to act. Another thing is a sudden failure. Will this training really help?

[Avior]

Perhaps it will help.
In any case, they hold gas during landing to take off when the cable breaks
Yes, and the catapult has not been canceled

[hydrox]

And already helped ...
The PILOT of the spinal cord felt what might have happened, he was late for a second or two with the afterburner on.

[Pavel57]

Sea pilots are something. No wonder the Americans drove in the 60s ground pilots through aircraft carriers.

[mmaxx]

Yes, and in ancient times there were enough such shots when the plane was landing below the deck. Our television loved these footage in order to strip down the American threat.

[Gennady Fomkin]

About the embarrassment of NATO ships told the publication Sohu. At the Russian border in the Barents Sea, exercises were held. The destroyers of the United States literally turned into a popsicle, writes the Chinese media.

Of course, the ships could not complete the combat mission. On-board equipment failed due to icing. Armament also failed. The harsh climate of the Arctic turned out to be stronger than all attempts by US and NATO troops to solve technical problems.

The publication notes that the ships of Russia are pre-treated with a special compound that protects against extreme temperatures. For this reason, the Russian Navy in the Arctic has no problems.

The US military admitted that their ships often freeze in ice or they experience various breakdowns. Sohu concluded that the embarrassment in the exercises demonstrated the apparent inability of the United States and NATO to compete in any way with the Russian Navy in the Arctic. The destroyer Donald Cook froze in the Barents Sea, failing NATO exercises near the borders of Russia

[Vadim Zhivov]

I do not mind, let them freeze ,,, Do not hr..na climb to our borders !!! But the Chinese somehow do not really believe it ... It's like about the Internet and the fence ....

[Kushka]

Maybe now. I served in the 70s - there were no staffs -
crowbar in hands and chipping forward. The Arctic is everything. North
not better - icing of everything and everything. Novorossiysk bora -
google see.

[val43]

God forbid the Chinese about Russia that they will write bad - you will spread them on the wall: jaundice, etc. (I judge by VO). And then the joys are full of pants. He served in the Federation Council - the ships were not processed by any crew and nothing, they went to the seas, already the shirt pulled up! So hello Sohu.

[Maks1995]

Forgotten already, before there were a lot of videos with the usual takeoff from aircraft carriers with "failure". Nothing unusual.

[Kushka]

Joke. Two classmates - one pilot, the other on the lawn on the farm.
Drive yes, ride. Well, the pilot took a friend into the cockpit - flew:
Add 200! there are 200 !, I add 100! Accepted! Cloud-visibility 0,
I’m going through the instruments! Accepted!. Had a friend, sat down, says very
dangerous profession. The pilot arrived in the village - well, will you ride me?
Easy !. Let's go - full throttle, third, again full throttle fourth
and "5th additional" (there was such a stick on the 51s, with cutouts like
for fishing line, knocked out 4 of them). Opens the glove compartment, picks up
bottle, glass- Add 200 !. Pours the remainder -Add 100!
Fuck-bang on the bump - the hood opens - Visibility 0 - I go on the instruments!
In short, the pilot got out, doesn’t say, friend, your profession is more dangerous for you.

[Nikolai Redko]

If these were tests, then they were very risky. I can imagine the pilot's "experiences" at these moments.

[Vladimir SHajkin]

Well done experienced, now we must test without a catapult, on their own.

[ZaDedov]

Great job pilots

[Interlocutor]

I also got the impression that the camera captured the frame. The aircraft carrier at the time of detachment pecked his nose, and then lifted it. Not so sickly lifted. Well, and accordingly the picture ....

[Maestro]

everyone knows that near the surface of the earth / water at the wing of an aircraft there is a "screen" effect and its lift increases significantly. So nothing "critical" could have happened in that situation.