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History of Russian hymns: from Peter the Great to Putin

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Writer G.A. El-Registan, State Prize Laureate, People's Artist of the USSR, Professor, Major General A.V. Alexandrov and State Prize Laureate poet S.V. Mikhalkov. 1943 year


On May 27, 1977, the USSR National Anthem was approved, which lasted until the collapse of the USSR.

Transfiguration March


The first songs and melodies that were identical to the national anthem appeared in the Russian state in the XNUMXth century. Even under Tsar Peter the Great, the Preobrazhensky March was created (March of the Life Guards of the Preobrazhensky Regiment, March of the Preobrazhensky, March of Peter the Great, Peter the Great). The march was created by an unknown composer. Perhaps the tune of the march was taken from the soldier’s song “The Turks and the Swedes Know Us.”

The Petrovsky March, except the Preobrazhensky Regiment, was also a march of other units. As a result, he became common to the entire army. The clarity and speed of the pace (120 steps per minute) made Peter's march indispensable for military campaigns and parades. The Transfiguration march was also performed on the days of the anniversaries of victories in the Northern War over the Swedes, on the days of the Tsar’s name, on the day of the coronation of Catherine the First. As a result, the Preobrazhensky March began to perform the functions of a secular anthem at parades, ceremonial exits of imperial persons, at embassy receptions, etc.

If under Peter the Great the “Preobrazhensky March”, like most others, was performed without words, then words appeared in the future. So, one of the most famous texts belonged to the poet Sergei Marina (1776-1813). He went the military way from the ensign of the Preobrazhensky regiment to the outbuilding-adjutant of Tsar Alexander the First. A march with the words "Let's go, brothers, abroad / Beat the Fatherland of the Enemies" Marin created in 1805, when he took part in another war with the French. In memory of this campaign there were two serious injuries and the first battle award for Austerlitz - the golden sword “For Courage”. At the beginning of the Patriotic War of 1812, the poet and warrior again rushed into battle and on the eve of the Battle of Borodino served under Bagration. After Borodin, Marine died of his wounds. In March 1814, the Russian army entered Paris with the singing of his "Transfiguration March."

Towards the end of the 1856th century, the Transfiguration March, in fact, became the main march of the Russian Empire. The chiefs of the Preobrazhensky regiment were all Russian emperors, so the march was always performed on various solemn occasions. For example, at the opening of monuments to the emperor sovereigns, various military ceremonies throughout the XIX - early XX centuries. The chimes of the Moscow Kremlin from 1917 to 12 (at 6 and XNUMX o’clock) caused the melody of the march. After the February Revolution, the Transfiguration March was performed instead of “God Save the Tsar!” The Bolsheviks accepted the International as an anthem; in the White Volunteer Army, the Transfiguration March remained the Russian anthem. In the same form, it persisted in the Russian white emigration.

History of Russian hymns: from Peter the Great to Putin

Russian officer and poet Sergey Marin. Portrait of Kiprensky's brush

Thunder of victory, resound!


During the reign of Catherine the Great in 1791, the poet Gabriel Derzhavin (words) and composer Osip Kozlovsky (music) created a hymn with the words “Thunder of victory, give out! / Have fun, brave Ross! / Beautified with sound glory. / Mohammed you cracked! " The reason for its creation was the brilliant victories of the Russian weapons in the war with Turkey. In particular, the assault of Izmail by the troops of Suvorov. Kozlovsky himself was a participant in the war with the Turks. The composition was very popular in society, it was used at almost every official ceremony in the capital and provincial cities. “The thunder of victory, be heard” during this period actually became an unofficial anthem of Russia.

The first national anthem of the Russian state was born in the reign of Paul the First. The sovereign personally revised and established a system of military and state ceremonies that had musical accompaniment. Such a work was the spiritual hymn "Our Lord is Glorious in Zion." It was written in 1794 by composer Dmitry Bortnyansky to the verses of Mikhail Kheraskov. The anthem, full of religious symbols, was widely used until the 1830s, before the approval of the work “God Save the Tsar!” From 1856 to 1917, the chimes of the Spasskaya Tower in the Moscow Kremlin evoked the tune “Kohl Glorious” along with the “Petrovsky March”. After the revolution, the anthem was actively used by the White Guards and Russian emigration.

Sovereign Alexander the First introduced another change. Under him in 1816 the first official state anthem of the empire was the “Prayer of the Russians”. The work was created on the basis of the English anthem "God Save the King!" (words and music by Henry Carey) poet Vasily Zhukovsky. Hymn “God Save the Tsar!” / Glorious debts days, ”was executed at the meeting of the sovereign. The work was an official anthem until 1833.

From "God Save the Tsar" to the "International"


The birth of the second official anthem of Russia occurred under Tsar Nikolai the First. In 1833, the Russian emperor visited the union of Austria and Prussia, and he was met with the sounds of the British march. The sovereign, who was a great patriot, met this without enthusiasm. At the direction of the tsar, composer Alexei Lvov wrote the hymn music to the words of Vasily Zhukovsky (the words were already different). For the first time, the anthem was performed at the Bolshoi Theater in December 1833: “God save the king! / Strong, sovereign / Reign for glory, for glory to us! / Reign in fear of enemies, / Orthodox Tsar! / God save the king! ” On December 31, 1833, the anthem was declared state and remained so until the 1917 revolution.

After the February Revolution of 1917 "God Save the Tsar!" canceled. Under the Provisional Government, they used both the old Preobrazhensky march and the more modern “Marseillaise” (“We will renounce the old world, / Shake it off our feet!”). This work was to the liking of the Februaryists, as it emphasized their loyalty to the Entente, primarily France. The final decision on the anthem of the new Russia was to be taken by the Constituent Assembly.

When a new revolution took place in October 1917 and the Bolsheviks seized power, in January 1918 they approved the International as the national anthem of the RSFSR. With the formation of the Soviet Union, he remained a hymn until 1944. It was the international anthem of the proletarian workers, communists and socialists:

Get up cursed branded
The whole world of hungry and slaves!
Our mind is seething
And ready to lead a mortal battle.
The whole world of violence we will destroy
To the ground, and then
We are ours, we will build a new world, -
Who was nothing, that will become everything.

The text was written in 1871 by a French poet, a member of the 1st International and the Paris Commune Eugene Potier. Music by Pierre Degeiter (1888). In 1910, at the Congress of the Socialist International in Copenhagen, the text was adopted as a hymn to the international socialist movement. In 1902, the poet Arkady Kots translated the International into Russian. The work became the party anthem of the revolutionary movement and the social democrats of Russia. Three verses of the Internationale (verses 3 and 4 were not included in the anthem) in the translation of Kotz, with minor modifications, made up the national anthem of the RSFSR and the USSR.

From Stalin to Putin


The anthem of the USSR was first played on January 1, 1944. “The Union of the indestructible republics of the free / Great Russia united forever. / Long live created by the will of the peoples / One, mighty Soviet Union! ” (Music by Alexander Alexandrov, lyrics by Sergei Mikhalkov and El-Registan.) The International has remained the anthem of the Communist Party. In 1956-1977 the anthem was performed without words, so as not to mention the name of Stalin ("Stalin raised us - to be faithful to the people").

Under Khrushchev, they planned to change the anthem, but did not edit it. Only on May 27, 1977 a new edition was adopted. The text again created Mikhalkov. It excludes references to Joseph Stalin, happiness, glory (of peoples), victories (“from victory to victory”), the army, and adds words about the party and communism. In fact, the victory of the revisionists, the hidden Trotskyists, was reflected in the anthem, which ultimately led to the disaster of Soviet civilization. The bureaucracy and nomenclature temporarily crushed the national (Soviet) project for the development of the USSR-Russia, refused to break into the "bright future" for everyone. This caused the degeneration of the Soviet elite into a closed caste, which eventually wanted a “bright future” (property and power) only for itself and its families, clans, and killed the USSR and the Soviet project.

In June 1990, the Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR was adopted. In November 1990, the Supreme Council of the RSFSR decided to create the state emblem, state flag and anthem of the RSFSR. As a hymn took the "Patriotic song" by Mikhail Glinka. The work was written in 1833. The melody was found in the composer's archive only in 1895, and for the first time it was sounded in 1944. Since December 1991, when the USSR was collapsed, the Patriotic Song became the anthem of the new Russia. In 1993, the status of the work was confirmed by decree of President B. Yeltsin. The anthem was performed without words, there was no universally recognized text. The commission received thousands of texts. The text of V. Radugin “Glory to Russia!” Was considered the best However, he did not become official.

At the end of 2000, the national anthem of Russia was changed again. The federal constitutional law “On the national anthem of the Russian Federation” of December 25, 2000 approved the music of A. V. Alexandrov (anthem of the USSR) as a melody of the anthem. On December 30, 2000, President Vladimir Putin approved the text of Sergei Mikhalkov: "Russia is our sacred power, / Russia is our beloved country." On the night of January 1, 2001, Aleksandrov’s melody sounded in Russia again, and the author of the text was Mikhalkov (creator of the text of the Soviet anthem). Thus, Russia was affirmed as the successor of the Soviet Union.

Appendix 1. Transfiguration March (text: S. Marin)


Come on, brothers, abroad
Beat the enemies of the Fatherland.
Recall Mother Queen,
Recall what her age is like!

Glorious age of Catherine
Every step will remind us
Those fields, forests, valleys,
Where fled from the Russian enemy.

Here is where Suvorov fought!
There Rumyantsev where struck!
Every warrior was different,
Found the path to glory.

Every warrior is a heroic spirit
Among these places proved
And how glorious our troops are -
The whole world knew about it.

Between glorious places
Let's rush together in battle!
With horse tails
The Frenchman will run home.

We are on the way for the Frenchman
And we will know by Paris.
Let us worry
As the capital we will take.

We’ll get rich there
In the dust, smashing a hero.
And then have some fun
For the people and for the king.

Appendix 2. Anthem of the USSR 1944


Union of the indestructible republics free
The great Russia has forever cemented itself.
Long live the people's will
A single, mighty Soviet Union!

Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
Friendship of peoples reliable stronghold!
The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
May it lead from victory to victory!

Through the storms, the sun of freedom shone,
And Lenin, our great path, illuminated;
We were raised by Stalin - on fidelity to the people,
We were inspired by work and deeds!

Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
The happiness of peoples is a reliable stronghold!
The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
May it lead from victory to victory!

We raised our army in battles.
We will sweep away the invaders of the vile from the road!
We in battles solve the fate of generations,
We will lead our Fatherland to glory!

Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
Glories of the peoples a reliable stronghold!
The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
May it lead from victory to victory!
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 06: 06 New
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    It is a pity that GDP was limited only to the return of the Anthem.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 27 May 2020 07: 14 New
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      This hymn to Putin would be more suitable, especially in the light of zeroing:
      Anthem
      « God save the Tsar!
      Glorious debts days, "
      performed at the meeting of the sovereign.

      But of all the hymns, Soviet, I think the best.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 May 2020 07: 41 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        Of all the hymns, Soviet, I think the best.

        And it sounds in any language.
        Here, the Stalinist Anthem of the USSR performed by the great friend of the USSR Paul Robson.

        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 May 2020 07: 46 New
          +7
          “Thunder of victory, be heard! / Have fun, brave Ross! / Beautified with sound glory. / Mohammed you cracked! "


          Listening to a musical work in good performance is always better than simply reading the text of the words.
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 27 May 2020 09: 11 New
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            And why did you forget about the Farewell of the Slav?
            the march, written in 1912 by the head trumpeter of the 7th reserve cavalry regiment, stationed in Tambov, by Vasily Agapkin, was impressed by the events of the First Balkan War (1912-1913). In essence, it is a national march, symbolizing the farewell to war, military service or a long journey. Beyond the borders of Russia is one of the most recognizable "musical symbols" of the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 27 May 2020 09: 12 New
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              Quote: neri73-r
              And why did you forget about the Farewell of the Slav?

              But they didn’t forget ... Video below. yes
              1. depressant
                depressant 27 May 2020 22: 28 New
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                Yes, I remember how, as a high school student, for the sake of humor, with great enthusiasm, I sang the hymn “God Save the Tsar!” And as she laughed, almost bending in half, my now deceased mother. There was a time...
                I haven’t watched TV shows for a long time. In them, no, no, and the anthem sounded, which I always identify with the USSR. It sounded, and I got up with my throat caught, and tears rolled from my eyes. I miss this music. Hope is associated with it.
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          2. Jünger
            Jünger 27 May 2020 21: 30 New
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            Good. But about Mohammed is intolerant. A multiconfessional society will not be approved today.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 28 May 2020 07: 00 New
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              Quote: Junger
              about Mohammed is intolerant. A multiconfessional society will not be approved today.

              Words cannot be discarded from a song ...
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 27 May 2020 20: 09 New
          +1
          In the video there was a frame where Eisenhower was present on the podium of the Mausoleum. Was he really coming to Stalin's anniversary in 1949?
      2. Fat
        Fat 28 May 2020 18: 40 New
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        Kotry !? Of the Soviet, I mean.
      3. Fat
        Fat 28 May 2020 18: 58 New
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        Have you read, heard Derzhavin’s addition to the RI Anthem?
        So I will give a quote:
        God save the Tsar!
        Strong, powerful,
        Reign for glory, for glory to us!
        Reign for fear of enemies
        The Orthodox King!
        God save the Tsar!
        God save the Tsar!
        Glory days
        Give on the ground! Give on the ground!
        Proud of the humbler
        Weak to the keeper,
        All the Comforter
        All come down!
        First-rate
        Russia Orthodox
        God Bless! God Bless!
        Her kingdom is slender,
        Your strength is calm!
        All unworthy
        Get rid of it!
        The army is an abusive,
        Slava favorites,
        God Bless! God Bless!
        Avenger Warriors
        Honor to the savior
        Peacekeepers
        Long days!
        Peaceful Warriors
        The truth of the guardians
        God Bless! God Bless!
        Their life is primitive
        False,
        Valor
        Remember me!
        Oh Providence!
        Blessing
        Send us! Send us!
        Striving for the good,
        Happiness, humility,
        Patience sorrow
        Give on the land!
        Be us an intercessor
        Vѣrnym companion
        See us off! See us off!
        Light lovely
        Heaven's life,
        Well-known to the heart,
        Heart siyay!

        I will kiss you on the lips, if This is not a declaration of a society that we will never know.
        I don’t care about the fate of the rulers ... The whole liberal-liberal society has only one charge for tsarism and communism - neglect of the ends.
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 27 May 2020 08: 48 New
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      forgot to mention the most important anthem-Zaporizhzhya march.

      strange on the original in Russian, but why it falls to the top in Ukrainian.
      there is an opinion that the Cossacks are runaway peasants, not trained and ragged, but this is certainly not the case. The Cossacks were the best troops of the empire.
      It is good that this ancient Cossack march has reached us.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 May 2020 09: 06 New
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        Quote: Bar1
        it is believed that Cossacks are runaway peasants, not trained and ragged, but this is certainly not the case.


        Is it?

        And the best troops of the empire, the support of the state, the Cossack units became already after the liquidation of the Zaporizhzhya Sich, which had discredited itself, by Peter the Great, and the suppression of the “Cossack freemen” during the reign of Catherine the Great, with clear regulation of their status ...
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 27 May 2020 09: 11 New
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          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: Bar1
          it is believed that Cossacks are runaway peasants, not trained and ragged, but this is certainly not the case.


          Is it?

          And the best troops of the empire, the support of the state, the Cossack units became already after the liquidation of the Zaporizhzhya Sich, which had discredited itself, by Peter the Great, and the suppression of the “Cossack freemen” during the reign of Catherine the Great, with clear regulation of their status ...

          Well, now it’s already clear that the Germans kings discredited themselves.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 27 May 2020 09: 17 New
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            Quote: Bar1
            Well, now it’s already clear that the Germans kings discredited themselves.

            Especially in the region Russified German Catherine the Great, who actually laid the foundation for today's territory of the outskirts?
            And the Georgian (according to other sources - Ossetians) I.V.Dzhugashvili (Stalin), who "completed" the territorial configuration of the ungrateful outskirts?
            1. Bar1
              Bar1 27 May 2020 09: 23 New
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              Quote: Insurgent
              Quote: Bar1
              Well, now it’s already clear that the Germans kings discredited themselves.

              Especially in the region Russified German Catherine the Great, who actually laid the foundation for today's territory of the outskirts?
              And the Georgian (according to other sources - Ossetians) I.V.Dzhugashvili (Stalin), who "completed" the territorial configuration of the ungrateful outskirts?

              your E2 enslaved the peasants in a way that was not yet in the history of Russia, this is its most important crime, but of the type of “great” it was called by those to whom it was distributing lands with Russian peasants.
              Stalin finally destroyed the Cossacks - this is his main crime.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 27 May 2020 10: 09 New
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                Quote: Bar1
                Stalin finally destroyed the Cossacks - this is his main crime.

                The Cossacks destroyed themselves by their own hatred and separatism. T.N. "pillar of the Empire" instead of rebuilding single and indivisible quickly organized its own quasi-states (along the way, right during the war that had not yet ended, having entered into relations with the enemy of the Empire and the Republic), and then began to put sticks in the wheels of the White movement, taking away the Cossacks from it and trying to use Bely’s forces to solve its problems " Troops. " And further Cossacks showed themselves no better - low discipline, lack of desire to fight outside the territory of their troops, looting.
                Well, why do the Reds need such a "support", which during the crisis immediately seeks where better?
                1. Romey
                  Romey 27 May 2020 11: 05 New
                  +1
                  Nonsense. The main motive for the participation of Cossacks in the GV on the side of the whites was the issue of preserving the land fund behind stanitsa yurts and preserving grassroots self-government. If the Soviet government made concessions on these issues, then the war would have ended before it could start if White did not have any desire to lean on any kind of social base. The events of the fall-winter of 17-18 years confirm this. For "separatism" in the territories of the former RI, the conversation is separate and it concerns not only the Cossacks.
                2. Bar1
                  Bar1 27 May 2020 11: 12 New
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                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  The Cossacks destroyed themselves by their own hatred and separatism.

                  don't know stories
                  The Cossacks are a SEPARATE people, they are not Russians and Ukrainians, of course, and not any class.
                  Cossack lands from the Danube, including the mouth of the Danube, the Black Sea, the Caucasus, the Wild Field, Kazakhstan, which is actually named after the Cossacks, Siberia, Semirechye, Transbaikalia, Dauria. Before the Pacific Ocean, these were all Cossacks. If there were no Cossack troops and Russia / Russia.
                  At different times, Cossacks were called differently, these are Cherkasy, Nogai, Kalmyks, Kaborda, Tartara, and MonGaly. This is all hidden by the OI. The Kazaks were smashed and destroyed by the Romanovs, destroyed the old sun-worshiping faith, changed their history, they were able to tame the Cossacks, apparently won. They replaced all the names and created surrogate peoples of the Kalmyk-Mongoloids, Circassians instead of the Cherkasy, Mordovians, with the Bolsheviks, instead of the Cossack Horde, the Kazakh Horde-Mongoloids was created.
                  Well, Comrade Stalin simply physically destroyed the Cossacks.

                  It was the planned GENOCIDE of the Cossack people, all of its vast culture and glorious history.
                  1. BAI
                    BAI 28 May 2020 00: 16 New
                    +2
                    Cossacks is a SEPARATE people

                    Yeah, a separate nation with its own state, Cossack. What is enshrined in the US Law of 1959 "On enslaved nations":
                    how the imperialist policy of communist Russia led through direct and indirect aggression to enslavement and deprivation of national independence of Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Romania, East Germany, Bulgaria, mainland China, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, North Korea, Albania, Idel-Ural, Tibet, CossacksTurkestan, North Vietnam and others,

                    And this law is still valid.
                    Further success in the "history".
                    1. Bar1
                      Bar1 28 May 2020 07: 44 New
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                      Quote: BAI
                      And this law is still valid.
                      Further success in the "history".

                      from this list there are not only Cossacks, all the rest are on the map.
                      1. BAI
                        BAI 28 May 2020 11: 58 New
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                        "Idel-Ural" - which state?
              2. beeper
                beeper 27 May 2020 11: 07 New
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                E2 enslaved the peasants in a way that was not yet in the history of Russia, this is its most important crime, but of the type of “great” it was called by those to whom it was distributing lands with Russian peasants.
                Stalin finally destroyed the Cossacks - this is his main crime.

                hi I think of the E2 rule with reproach and bitterness (from the poems of Taras Shevchenko) since childhood from a peasant grandmother:
                "Kateryna, ridna mats, what have you got ?!
                The land is cheerful, the step is wide, the panam has been handed out! "

                We didn’t remember Catherine the Second in our country, in the steppe villages of New Russia, our rural old people who were born and raised under tsarism!
              3. Simargl
                Simargl 27 May 2020 19: 19 New
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                Quote: Bar1
                Stalin finally destroyed the Cossacks - this is his main crime.
                Cossacks are an estate. The estates were abolished ... when and by whom?
              4. Alf
                Alf 27 May 2020 20: 49 New
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                Quote: Bar1
                Stalin finally destroyed the Cossacks - this is his main crime.

                Go destroyed.
                1. Bar1
                  Bar1 28 May 2020 07: 40 New
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                  Quote: Alf
                  Go destroyed.

                  where are they now? Where are the lands of the Cossacks of the Wild Field, Cherkasy, Terek, Budzhak, where are the Cossacks of Borovoy, Semirechensky, where are the Cossacks of Daur? They are not. So do not lie.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 28 May 2020 18: 55 New
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                    Quote: Bar1
                    Quote: Alf
                    Go destroyed.

                    where are they now? Where are the lands of the Cossacks of the Wild Field, Cherkasy, Terek, Budzhak, where are the Cossacks of Borovoy, Semirechensky, where are the Cossacks of Daur? They are not. So do not lie.

                    Reborn ...



                    Quote: Bar1
                    Where are the lands of the Cossacks

                    That's where the dog rummaged! Where is their land? But judging by the fact that they were reborn, not all the bloody tyrant destroyed.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 27 May 2020 12: 43 New
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              Quote: Insurgent
              And the Georgian (according to other sources - Ossetians) I.V.Dzhugashvili (Stalin), who "completed" the territorial configuration of the ungrateful outskirts?

              Lenin and Khrushchev also slaughtered fellow lands in Ukraine
    3. Bar1
      Bar1 27 May 2020 09: 00 New
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      pindo_sy sing God save the tsar on his independence day arranged by Tchaikovsky P.I.

      1. Ciklop
        Ciklop 27 May 2020 09: 03 New
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        Quote: Bar1
        pindo_sy sing God save the tsar on his independence day arranged by Tchaikovsky P.I.

        And the most interesting thing is that no one will blame them on this .. I mean their religiosity, etc. But in our Russian Orthodox Church only lazy neoliber does not spit ..
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 27 May 2020 09: 16 New
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          Quote: Ciklop
          And the most interesting is that no one will reproach them with this

          this, as if not the main thing, the main thing is that the Russian anthem sounds at the American holiday, it is amazing.
          1. Ciklop
            Ciklop 27 May 2020 09: 21 New
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            Quote: Bar1
            Quote: Ciklop
            And the most interesting is that no one will reproach them with this

            this, as if not the main thing, the main thing is that the Russian anthem sounds at the American holiday, it is amazing.

            What's so surprising? The Russian Empire was the first in the world to recognize the USA as a state, and in those days it was a very significant word in world politics ..!
            1. Bar1
              Bar1 27 May 2020 09: 29 New
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              Quote: Ciklop
              What's so surprising? The Russian Empire was the first in the world to recognize the USA as a state, and in those days it was a very significant word in world politics ..!

              and in gratitude for this, the United States is now performing the Russian anthem.
              1. Ciklop
                Ciklop 27 May 2020 10: 44 New
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                Quote: Bar1
                and in gratitude for this, the United States is now performing the Russian anthem.

                Not sure .. The USA is generally a strange neo-state that destroyed the indigenous people of the Indians for the sake of profit and the gold rush .. And then proclaimed itself the sanctuary of democracy and human rights .. Isn't this all strange?
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 27 May 2020 19: 22 New
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                  Quote: Ciklop
                  and the gold rush ..
                  Yukon in Alaska, which then belonged to Russia.
              2. Alf
                Alf 27 May 2020 20: 52 New
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                Quote: Bar1
                Quote: Ciklop
                What's so surprising? The Russian Empire was the first in the world to recognize the USA as a state, and in those days it was a very significant word in world politics ..!

                and in gratitude for this, the United States is now performing the Russian anthem.

                And in gratitude for this, the United States is trying to destroy Russia.
                Yes, the wrong country was supported by Russia in the US Civil War.
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 May 2020 09: 24 New
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          Quote: Ciklop
          And the most interesting is that no one will reproach them with this.


          You, perform the hymn of anyone (with the exception of perhaps the "3 Reich") now defunct state for non-extremist and non-provocative purposes, and no one will condemn or reproach you ...
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 27 May 2020 10: 11 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            You, perform the anthem of any (with the exception of the “3 Reichs”) of the now defunct state for non-extremist and non-provocative purposes, and no one will condemn and reproach you ...

            Ahem ... persistent rumors are circulating that execution Auferstanden aus ruinen for any purpose in Germany is highly discouraged. smile
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 27 May 2020 10: 16 New
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              Quote: Alexey RA
              Ahem ... there are persistent rumors that the performance of Auferstanden aus Ruinen for any purpose in Germany is highly discouraged.

              In Germany, to which particularly stringent demands are made within the framework of denazification, the performance of the Nazi anthem is generally CATEGORically prohibited, no matter what the pretext they try ...

              After all, in the commentary above, I wrote about this precisely that you can do EVERYTHING that is not extremist in nature ...
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 27 May 2020 11: 21 New
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                Quote: Insurgent
                In Germany, to which particularly stringent demands are made within the framework of denazification, the performance of the Nazi anthem is generally CATEGORically prohibited, no matter what the pretext they try ...

                And since when did the GDR become a Nazi state? wink
    4. Bar1
      Bar1 27 May 2020 09: 26 New
      -5
      Hasbulat daredevil poor sakl your American anthem.

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  3. Olgovich
    Olgovich 27 May 2020 06: 20 New
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    the national anthem of the RSFSR "International". With the formation of the Soviet Union, he remained a hymn until 1944.

    This one whole international workers from Europe and pounced on us in 1941 to kill, rob and kill the working people of the USSR.

    And no "proletarians of all countries, unite!" Rather, united for the Looting of other proletarians
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 27 May 2020 06: 37 New
      +2
      And no "proletarians of all countries, unite!" Rather, united for the Looting of other proletarians

      Our veterans recalled how they tried to appeal to the feelings of the working class of Germany when they met on the front lines with German soldiers ... in response, only machine-gun lines ... hehe from the German proletarians.
      Internationalism was weak ... this ideology turned out to be a profanation.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 27 May 2020 06: 54 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        And no "proletarians of all countries, unite!" Rather, united for the Looting of other proletarians

        Our veterans recalled how they tried to appeal to the feelings of the working class of Germany when they met on the front lines with German soldiers ... in response, only machine-gun lines ... hehe from the German proletarians.
        Internationalism was weak ... this ideology turned out to be a profanation.

        Yeah, when it came to “BURN” and take the Slavic SLAVES and put on their land, proletarian solidarity vanished.

        Nazi National Socialist Workers Party Germany on 85% consisted of workers, peasants and small agricultural traders

        These animals and led atrocities in our country during the invasion.

        PS Of the marches I really like the old "Longing for the Homeland" -beautiful music "!

        1. Same lech
          Same lech 27 May 2020 06: 57 New
          +2
          The Nazi National Socialist Workers Party Germany 85% consisted of workers, peasants and small agricultural traders

          Well, so I listed the composition of the guards of the Auschwitz concentration camp ... workers ... peasants ... pharmacists and others ... a paradox ... their working origin did not stop them from killing the same representatives of the working class of the whole world.
        2. Edward Vashchenko
          Edward Vashchenko 27 May 2020 08: 56 New
          +9
          Of course, the Stalinist and modern anthem, from the point of view of music, is the most appropriate historical mission of the country.
          God save the king - of course, he was adequate to the era, neither worse nor better, from a musical point of view, "God save the king (Eve)."
          But, marches of the beginning of the twentieth century, with their magnificent melody (Farewell of the Slav, On the hills of Manchuria, Longing for Homeland), carry a raid of decadence, defeat, if you like, longing for former military greatness (beginning of the twentieth century - from defeat to defeat), and, as if the hunches that the “crystal bakers” would soon end.
          Naturally, this social sensation, the “silver age” or the decadent style, was reflected in the music.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 27 May 2020 10: 32 New
            -12
            Quote: Edward Vashchenko
            Of course, the Stalinist and modern anthem, from the point of view of music, is the most adequateth historical mission country.

            and what is the "mission"?
            Quote: Edward Vashchenko
            But marches the beginning of the twentieth century (Farewell of the Slav, On the hills of Manchuria, Longing for the Motherland), with their magnificent melody) bear a touch of decadence, defeat, if you like, longing for former military greatness (beginning of the twentieth century - from defeat to defeat), and, as if a hunch that soon the "baker" is over.

            1. To call a waltz “On the hills of Manchuria” a “march” is something .... yes

            2. crunches that led to the worst catastrophe in the history of the world (1991), under the cheerful "With us Lenin is ahead!" lol mention the "defeat", which, incidentally, was not?

            But in this ridiculous pouting lying funny vivacity, the end was clearly visible.

            3. Better than the Russians "Farewell of the Slav, On the hills of Manchuria, Longing for the Motherland", no one has created anything, through piercing sincerity, beauty, soulfulness, love for the Motherland.
          2. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 27 May 2020 19: 27 New
            -1
            Naturally, this social sensation, the “silver age” or the decadent style, was reflected in the music.

            Yes, "Guards Major of the Soviet Army Ilya Shatrov and Colonel of the Soviet Army Vasily Agapkin as vivid exponents of the musical trends of the Silver Age." Agapkin, by the way, if he relied on anyone, it was on Tchaikovsky: the theme was Slavic patriotism and victories in the Balkan wars, but no defeats.
            Also, apparently, due to the fact that “Farewell of the Slav” bears a raid of decadence and defeat, this march was included in the Service and Drill Repertoire for the Red Army Orchestras of 1945 (and even the sinful one, he left the military commissariat under him).
            “On the hills of Manchuria” is firstly a waltz, not a march (however, you and Milyukov have the Bosphorus). Secondly, it is written in memory of the fallen comrades, what’s decadent here? And even then the German Ich hatt 'einen Kameraden of 1809 will also fall into decadent art (about something like "Enemies burned their own hut" and it’s scary to think).
            R.S., separately amused
            Silver age or decadent style
            . Well, to the heights of socialist realism is far away, of course.
        3. rich
          rich 27 May 2020 18: 55 New
          -3
          Longing for the homeland "wonderful and beautiful march." I, in turn, Andrew, I want to draw your attention to the "convoy march", written in 1877. Lieutenant Eris Khan Sultan Giray Aliyev based on the old Ossetian Honga for SEIVK.
          Modest Petrovich Moussorgsky wrote: SEIVK march - a unique piece of music written by a young Chechen officer. The musical tempo, incomprehensible to me, is composed in such a way that allows 400 horses of the Cossack convoys to pass the Sovereign in a single vein, without getting lost, and without breaking the rules. Music specifically for horses! This has never happened before! I am absolutely delighted!

          Eris Khan Sultan Girey Aliyev subsequently became a general from artillery, a holder of hordes. St. George III, Art. St. Anne III art., Ord. St. George III, Art. St. Stanislav III st., Ord. St. Vladimir III st., Ord. White Eagle with swords and Golden St. George's Arms. He participated in the Russo-Japanese and the First World and Civil Wars. Hero of the battle of Mukden, Hero of the battles of Warsaw, Pultusk and Narew,

          video where the dance ensemble "Alania" dances to the Aliyev march SEIVK
      2. Ciklop
        Ciklop 27 May 2020 09: 06 New
        -5
        Quote: The same Lech
        Our veterans recalled how they tried to appeal to the feelings of the working class of Germany when they met on the front lines with German soldiers ... in response, only machine-gun lines ... hehe from the German proletarians.
        Internationalism was weak ... this ideology turned out to be a profanation.

        Alas, it was so .. And especially after the collapse of the USSR, we Russians felt it on ourselves once again and I hope finally understood that we have only the Army and Navy as “brothers and allies”
      3. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 27 May 2020 09: 33 New
        +4
        when we met on the front line with German soldiers ...


        interesting, and how did these friendly gatherings look like? How often on the frontline were the evenings of Soviet-German friendship? And what does “appeal to the feelings of the working class of Germany” look like in sign language?
      4. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 27 May 2020 10: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: The same Lech
        Internationalism was weak ... this ideology turned out to be a profanation.

        The harmful prejudice was deeply rooted that the supposedly population of the countries entering the war with the USSR would inevitably, almost without exception, rise and go over to the side of the Red Army, that the workers and peasants would meet us with flowers. This false belief arises from ignorance of the actual situation in neighboring countries. The war in Finland showed that we did not conduct political intelligence in the northern regions and therefore did not know with what slogans to go to this population and how to conduct work among them. We often treated peasants as a working class, but it turns out that this peasant is a big fist, a Shutskorovets, and he reacts in his own way. Collision with reality demagnetizes our fighter and commander, who is used to viewing the population of foreign countries from a general - superficial point of view. We need to know what the population of this or that country lives and is interested in.
        © Speech by L. 3. Mehlis at a meeting on ideological work in the army and navy on May 13, 1940
        Alas. but the system of political work turned out to be too mossy and hardened to deploy it even in a year.
    2. tatra
      tatra 27 May 2020 06: 40 New
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      ALL wars in the territory of the USSR after the October Revolution were unleashed by YOU, internal and external enemies of the Bolshevik Communists. And in the article, according to "Sovereign," the cowardly blaming the Soviet Communists for responsibility for your capture of the USSR, it is immediately clear that one of you wrote the article.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 27 May 2020 06: 43 New
        -12
        ALL wars in the territory of the USSR after the October Revolution were unleashed by YOU, internal and external enemies of the Bolshevik Communists.

        Why lie then ... but the USSR was destroyed not by the same convinced communists, with the power and obligation to set an example for the rest ... rub the skin of such a communist and rot inside ... start with yourself, but if this liberal liberal is rotting inside you .
        1. tatra
          tatra 27 May 2020 06: 58 New
          +7
          One of the main qualities of the enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR, with which they seriously imagined that they are more than communists and their supporters worthy of owning the country, is cowardice, fear of the slightest responsibility for what you did in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods, from responsibility for your unleashing of the Civil War after the October Revolution in order to capture Russia, to the responsibility for the capture and dismemberment of the USSR by you, and the results of your work for 30 years after the capture. The enemies of the Communists are always "to blame" only for what they HAVE AFTER the destruction of the USSR.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 27 May 2020 07: 06 New
            +4
            The trouble with the CPSU is that a lot of crooks and random people who have no communist ideas except zeal and careerism entered it ... therefore it is natural that this party began to rot from above, which was the beginning of the end of the USSR.
            The very idea of ​​communism is not bad, but in the conditions of the underdeveloped morality of a single person, it did not work ... while communism is a utopia and humanity can still stomp and stomp to it ... there may be more than one millennium.
            1. tatra
              tatra 27 May 2020 07: 11 New
              +9
              Yes, firstly, the enemies of the Communists always, both during the USSR and after the capture of the USSR, pretended and pretended to be those who were profitable to them at the moment, and then betray those who believed them, and the real ones only when they have no profit lie and hypocrite. Secondly, no one is able to prove how without the Gorbachev, who gave the enemies the Communists freedom of speech and action, who launched a total slander on the Bolshevik communists, the USSR could have been destroyed, and these evil anti-Soviet-Russophobic "independence" appeared on the territory of the USSR.
            2. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 08: 59 New
              +4
              Quote: The same Lech
              The trouble of the CPSU is that a lot of crooks and random people entered it
              Here I can’t but agree, especially after the Great Victory, when the communist was no longer afraid to be.
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 27 May 2020 07: 39 New
            -11
            Quote: tatra
            One of the main qualities of the enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR with whom they seriously imagined that they are more than the Communists and their supporters deserve to own the country is cowardice, fear of the slightest responsibility forwhat did you do in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods - from the responsibility for unleashing your GraZhdanskogo war after the October Revolution in order to capture Russia, to the responsibility for the capture and dismemberment of the USSR by you, and the results of your work for 30 years after the capture. The enemies of the Communists have always "to do with it" only to what they HAVE AFTER the destruction of the USSR .

            What, unusually, languid nonsense, you have surpassed yourself! hi

            PS you, at least sometimes, TOPIC articles not forget it!
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 07: 49 New
              11
              Quote: Olgovich
              PS you, at least sometimes, the TOPIC of the article, do not forget!

              The audacity of Olgych, as well as his Russophobic essence, are known !:
              Quote: Olgovich
              It was this whole international of working people from Europe that pounced on us in 1941 to kill, rob and kill workers of the USSR.
              Why would Olgych have sailed to the national anthems of Russia of the Natsiks and their henchmen, they have nothing to do with the international, they are NAZIS.
        2. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 07: 34 New
          12
          Quote: The same Lech
          not the same convinced communists

          Do not lie! Yeltsin and Gorbi with the Yakovlevs and Shevarnadze are the convinced communists?
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 27 May 2020 08: 14 New
            -4
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Yeltsin and Gorbi with the Yakovlevs and Shevarnadze are the convinced communists?
            The "CONVINCED Communists" were so tired of kissing publicly with the beloved dear and beloved Leonid Ilyich, that they unanimously brought to the very top the authorities of the comrades you indicated, who were not remembered by night, so that they finally demolished this USSR and the "CONVINCED" could deploy all get your talents already according to your needs.
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 08: 23 New
              11
              Quote: sniperino
              kiss in the lust of the dear and beloved beloved Leonid Ilyich

              Well, they forgot about Chernenko and Andropov, but what do you think, Gorbi and Yeltsins and others publicly swore that they would end the USSR? You and Olgych don’t take an example, he loves to carry nonsense in large LETTERS.
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 27 May 2020 08: 36 New
                -7
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                What do you think, Gorby and the Yeltsins and others publicly swore that they would end the USSR?
                I personally did not attend the selection of candidates, but I admit in absentia (for candidates) and secret (for them and everyone else smerdy mortal) vote Soviet oligarchs most "CONVINCED". To make it easier to carry nonsense in large LETTERS, I copy it from your comments: Ctrl + c, Ctrl + v.
                If they swore, hardly any of the comrades believed them. The comrades simply studied them under a microscope and suggested, and everyone else (who knew and who did not know) - FOR. Small letters too.
                1. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 08: 43 New
                  +9
                  Quote: sniperino
                  I personally did not attend the selection of candidates
                  Then why so categorical?
                  Quote: sniperino
                  that UNANIMOUSLY brought to the very top authorities of the comrades you indicated

                  And recall, which of the Politburos who voted for Gorbi remained in power after 1991?
                  1. sniperino
                    sniperino 27 May 2020 09: 18 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    who of the Politburo who voted for Gorbi remained in power after 1991?
                    The transcripts and voting of the Politburo at that time were owls. they were secret, and after I didn’t read them, there was no time. Is there something interesting there? All members of the Politburo had their own, but different spheres and channels of influence. The most influential can be called oligarchs. I did not speak about the official meeting of the Politburo, but about the voting in the steam room, after which the members were processed accordingly and the question was brought to the Bureau. They are sick or something, they remain in power of the Russian Federation after 1991, believing that the "power of the Russian Federation" is the future historical rams of absolution (you cannot mention the goats here), guilty of all the sins of the collapse of Russia. Only Yeltsin got drunk signed up.
                    1. Vladimir_2U
                      Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 09: 21 New
                      +7
                      Quote: sniperino
                      All members of the Politburo had their own, but different spheres and channels of influence. The most influential can be called oligarchs. I did not speak about the official meeting of the Politburo, but about the voting in the steam room, after which the members were processed accordingly and the question was brought to the Bureau. Are they sick or something, the government of the Russian Federation remains after 1991, believing that the "power of the Russian Federation" is the future historical absolution, guilty of all the sins of the collapse of Russia

                  2. sniperino
                    sniperino 27 May 2020 09: 56 New
                    -8
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    Then why so categorical?
                    You mean the word "admit"? I can replace it with "I dare to assume." It does not seem too categorical for fans to hang their diagnoses on others?
                    1. Vladimir_2U
                      Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 11: 12 New
                      +6
                      Quote: sniperino
                      Then why so categorical?
                      You mean the word "I admit"

                      Oh, what a cheap wag, I'm talking about this here:
                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      that UNANIMOUSLY brought to the very top authorities of the comrades you indicated

                      Or a more complete version, directly from the creator:
                      Quote: sniperino
                      The "CONVINCED Communists" are so tired of kissing publicly in love with the dear and beloved Leonid Ilyich, that they unanimously carried to the very top the authorities of the comrades you mentioned
                      Where is the "admit"?
                      1. sniperino
                        sniperino 27 May 2020 11: 55 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        cheap wagging
                        Give at least one objection to these candidates at the plenary sessions of the CPSU Central Committee, which claimed them to be worthy candidates for membership in the Politburo, after which I will withdraw my definition “unanimously”, recognizing that there was one honest and courageous person whose name was undeservedly forgotten.
                      2. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 12: 30 New
                        +2
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Give at least one objection to these candidates at the plenums of the CPSU Central Committee
                        Give at least one anti-communist statement by Gorbachev before his election! And I admit that Gorby chose unanimously to just ruin the USSR. Though:
                        “I must say the whole truth: these were disturbing days. There could be completely different solutions. There was such a real danger. I want to tell you that due to the firmly occupied position of the Politburo members - comrades Chebrikov, Solomentsev, Gromyko and a large group of first secretaries of the regional committees - the only correct decision was made at the March plenary meeting of the Central Committee ”.... Ligachev himself recalled this at the XIX party conference
                        Read more: https://ukraina.ru/history/20190311/1022900831.html
                        There were also those who voted against.
                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 27 May 2020 12: 38 New
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                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Give at least one anti-communist statement by Gorbachev before his election! And I admit that Gorby chose unanimously to just ruin the USSR.
                        Enough of flogging nonsense. I asked for a speech "at the plenary sessions of the CPSU Central Committee, which claimed them to be worthy candidates for membership in the Politburo," and not stories about intrigues from their participants. Moreover, in 1985, when Gorbachev and others were already in power.
                      4. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 28 May 2020 03: 50 New
                        -1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        I asked for a speech "at the plenums of the Central Committee of the CPSU, which claimed them to be worthy candidates for membership in the Politburo", and not stories about intrigues from their participants

                        Well, I refused this. And what are the performances? We were talking about those who voted for and against, you don’t drive a fool.
                      5. sniperino
                        sniperino 28 May 2020 21: 14 New
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                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Well, I refused this. And what are the performances? It was about voting for and against, you do not drive a fool
                        Are you intentionally stupid, or is it so? "Refused." When Andropov was pushing him up, were there many opponents there? Or he was the most worthy and reliable all the time, and then he took it and degenerated into "traitors". What kind of devil did he need to change? What could they offer him on the hillock, which he did not have here? A communist must speak honestly and openly to party comrades about the shortcomings of the candidate, and not secretly vote against. Anonymity is a liberal bourgeois value. You will find in the Andropov period, or earlier (after Stalin), someone who wanted to prevent and openly counteract the “traitors”, count him, but not — don’t look for scapegoats, but admit that the CPSU betrayed the ideals and went headlong into philistine life in which she drowned. And you are yearning in 1985, like a hunchback to the wall.
                      6. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 29 May 2020 04: 59 New
                        0
                        Quote: sniperino
                        "Refused." When Andropov promoted him up there were many opponents
                        However, they were, as can be seen from this
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        The truth must be said: these were troubled days. There could be completely different solutions. There was such a real danger

                        Quote: sniperino
                        but admit that the CPSU betrayed ideals and with a head went into a philistine life, in which it drowned

                        Here I can’t disagree, there are too many sorts of trash, the bummers and trash after the death of Stalin pretended to be Communists.
                      7. sniperino
                        sniperino 29 May 2020 09: 43 New
                        0
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        too many sorts of trash, foolishness and trash after the death of Stalin pretended to be communists.
                        There is no disagreement, but the next step must be taken - to ask a question about the causes of the negative selection, which brought this slag to the upper echelons of power. I’m talking about these reasons all the time. Opponents, I’m afraid, don’t even understand that criticism is not “slanderous inventions of the enemies of the Communists,” but that single moment of truth (the denial of negation), which allows, if not to say that “Marx’s teaching is omnipotent because it’s true,” then do not give it completely to the mercy of tearing to the party (and in dreams and to the state) feeder. While the Communist Party is parasitic on the myth of a handful of random traitors who skillfully disguised themselves as convinced communists and deceived the gullible children of the district committees, city committees, regional committees, central committees, instead of criticizing Marxism, they need to be driven out of power by a stick.
              2. Fat
                Fat 28 May 2020 21: 21 New
                0
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Quote: sniperino
                Give at least one objection to these candidates at the plenums of the CPSU Central Committee
                Give at least one anti-communist statement by Gorbachev before his election! And I admit that Gorby chose unanimously to just ruin the USSR. Though:
                “I must say the whole truth: these were disturbing days. There could be completely different solutions. There was such a real danger. I want to tell you that due to the firmly occupied position of the Politburo members - comrades Chebrikov, Solomentsev, Gromyko and a large group of first secretaries of the regional committees - the only correct decision was made at the March plenary meeting of the Central Committee ”.... Ligachev himself recalled this at the XIX party conference
                Read more: https://ukraina.ru/history/20190311/1022900831.html
                There were also those who voted against.

                I like the argument! Give Shipilov’s arguments in defense of the “anti-steam group” ...
                And why were these young figures ostracized and disgraced?
                Mm?
                What? "Read the newspaper Pravda"? So a certain part went so far as to begin to deny the very existence of a newspaper organ.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 27 May 2020 07: 13 New
    -19
    Quote: tatra
    ALL wars in the territory of the USSR after the October Revolution were unleashed by YOU, internal and external enemies of the Bolshevik Communists


    "And the chapel ... I also ruined" (C) lol
    Quote: tatra
    blame the Soviet Communists for your seizure of the USSR


    the enemies of the enemies of the Bolsheviks were so liquid .... request lol
    1. rich
      rich 28 May 2020 13: 13 New
      +1
      tatra (irina): ALL wars in the territory of the USSR after the October Revolution were unleashed by YOU, internal and external enemies of the Bolshevik Communists. And in the article, according to "Sovereign," the cowardly blaming the Soviet Communists for responsibility for your capture of the USSR, it is immediately clear that one of you wrote the article


      the word "Sovereign" with a capital letter, quoted by me, is a word taken out of context from a letter from MP Musorsky dated December 17, 1877 to M. A. Balakirev about his impression of the "SEIVK march". Imagine Comrade Tatra, Mussorgsky wrote this word with a capital letter. Not only as he was a cowardly enemy of the Bolsheviks-Communists feel Here is a scoundrel, but also pretended to be a progressive composer yes
      I must upset you, comrade. Tatra - to the collapse of the USSR, and the outbreak of all wars on the territory of the USSR M.P. Musorsky has nothing to do yes I will not bother you with long explanations why - in short, he will tell you everything in person, yes
      PS My advice to you - do not engage in flood, write posts on the topic of the article. In each of your comments, why would we not discuss whether music or ancient Russia necessarily contains the phrase “cowardly enemies of the Bolshevik-Communists”. It looks a lot like schizophrenia.
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    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 27 May 2020 07: 58 New
      -20
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Stupidity Olga also climbs. The British, Yugoslavs, Greeks, Bulgarians and many also climbed to us?

      Little Vovochka from the 2nd “U” is excusable not to know the elementary, lol but to climb with ignorance is not excusable:
      Croats and Bosnians fought, there were British, Bulgarians at the front treated the Nazis ignoramus.

      To list all the "internationalists" -workers from ALL countries of Europe who were killing us-comment is not enough.

      Judging by the degree of your rudeness, it hurts you for these animals destroyed by the Red Army .... belay
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 27 May 2020 08: 09 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        Judging by the degree of your rudeness

        Only and exclusively in response to the rudeness of Olga, it was just a little earlier
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        But Krasnovskaya trash still climbed.
        And what, Olgych forgot about these figures? How fast however. This is the whole Olgych.
        Quote: Olgovich
        List those "internationalists"
        And here Olgych's intellect in all its glory! In brown tones! OFFICIALLY Hitler, when the war was declared, opposed both Germany and its henchmen to the Comintern and Bolshevism (communism):
        Suppressing the serious doubts generated by this fundamental difference in the political orientation of Germany and Soviet Russia and the sharpest contradiction between the diametrically opposed worldviews of NATIONAL-SOCIALISM and Bolshevism

        And this is a miracle, Olgych who, something else blathers about the ignoramuses!
      2. vladcub
        vladcub 27 May 2020 08: 52 New
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        Olgovich, actually doctors and the regular army are not one of the same, and the Bulgarian army was not on the Eastern Front
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 27 May 2020 10: 00 New
          -9
          There was no Bulgarian army on the Eastern Front. But she freed the German contingent for the Eastern Front.
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 27 May 2020 10: 42 New
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          Quote: vladcub
          Olgovich, actually doctors and the regular army is not one of the same

          Military medical doctors-Bulgarians treated the Nazis at the front.

          They did not treat ours.
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 27 May 2020 07: 50 New
    -11
    Quote: Olgovich
    It was this whole international of working people from Europe that pounced on us in 1941 to kill, rob and kill workers of the USSR.

    Now comrades will come running and zaminusuyut you to hiccups .... They have the main goal to destroy and spit everything.
    1. tatra
      tatra 27 May 2020 07: 58 New
      +6
      On the contrary. ALL 30 years after the capture of the USSR by you, the enemies of the Communists, the Communists and their supporters write and speak FOR, and then AGAINST, and you have all these 30 years only malice against.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 27 May 2020 11: 39 New
        -7
        Quote: tatra
        ALL 30 years after the capture of the USSR by you, the enemies of the Communists, the Communists and their supporters write and speak FOR, and then AGAINST, and you have all these 30 years only malice against.

        It was the Communists Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and so on who put the property of the USSR in their pocket, ruined the country ...... The whole top of the low-level Svidomo of Ukraine are former desks. comm apparatchiks, or their children and grandchildren ... They deceived the people, grabbed and live on the mountain of the people ... And now their followers are trying to teach the rules of life ... Shame!
    2. apro
      apro 27 May 2020 11: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: 30 vis
      Quote: Olgovich
      It was this whole international of working people from Europe that pounced on us in 1941 to kill, rob and kill workers of the USSR.

      Now comrades will come running and zaminusuyut you to hiccups .... They have the main goal to destroy and spit everything.

      For more details please: why were they destroyed? Why were they spat on?
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 27 May 2020 08: 07 New
    +5
    As always, you are on emotions. And the lyrics and the music itself are quite good.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 27 May 2020 08: 30 New
      -17
      Quote: Deniska999
      As always, you are on emotions.

      The fact is given.

      Or do you disagree?
      Quote: Deniska999
      And you текст quite good.


      In light of what happened in the Second World War, we are ridiculous and ridiculous: we were killed by workers and peasants throughout Europe, and the capitalist USA and England sent us help.

      it's just a fact
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 27 May 2020 09: 12 New
        11
        In the capitalist USA and England there were also workers who made products that were sent to us)
        So during the Second World War a new anthem was introduced. And about the emotions: just open the story of your comments and everything is there. It is clear that you are organically not digesting Soviet power, and therefore all its actions a priori arouse your rejection.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 27 May 2020 10: 49 New
          -13
          Quote: Deniska999
          In the capitalist USA and England there were also workers who made products that were sent to us)

          Them paid-they did.

          Would not pay, would not do

          In Germany, Hungary, Romania, and so forth, workers and peasants were ordered to go kill and slaughter to us — they went and, WITH ENTUSIASM, slaughtered and killed us.

          This is just a fact.
          Quote: Deniska999
          ak during the Second World War a new anthem and introduced

          You bet!
          Quote: Deniska999
          about emotions: it’s enough to open the history of your comments and everything is clear. It is clear that you are organically not digesting Soviet power, and therefore all its actions a priori arouse your rejection.


          I bring FACTS, and even if they shout, so these are questions to those who created them.
          1. Deniska999
            Deniska999 27 May 2020 11: 07 New
            +9
            The facts themselves do not scream, but become such only in the mouth of the one who voices) Well, there was the International, a good anthem; True, the ideas he proclaimed did not all share. Business something.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 27 May 2020 11: 24 New
              -12
              Quote: Deniska999
              The facts themselves do not scream, but become such only in the mouth of the one who voices

              the expression "Glaring FACTS" is apparently completely unknown request
              Quote: Deniska999
              Well, there was the International, a good anthem; True, the ideas he proclaimed did not all share.

              the ideas proclaimed to them turned out to be rubbish-look, WHAT the diverse animals have done for us (from workers and peasants)
              1. Deniska999
                Deniska999 27 May 2020 11: 33 New
                +6
                You see, again the emotional assessment is “nonsense”. Right word, you are incorrigible)
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 27 May 2020 11: 50 New
                  -11
                  Quote: Deniska999
                  You see, again the emotional assessment is “bullshit”

                  I see that you don’t know either ....

                  Bullshit - I g. unleash 1. Stupidity, absurdity, nonsense, nonsense
                  . Explanatory Dictionary of Ephraim. T.F. Efremova. 2000


                  Just a statement of fact - a glaring contradiction between the proclaimed and ... what happened - we look at what the diverse animals (from workers and peasants) did for us
                  Quote: Deniska999
                  Right word, you are incorrigible)

                  belay
                  Who needs your opinions about ... me?

                  Oh..there is nothing to say? No?

                  So what is it for?
                  1. Deniska999
                    Deniska999 27 May 2020 12: 01 New
                    +7
                    I note that the word "nonsense" is still more emotionally colored than, for example, "nonsense." You already climbed into the dictionary, funny. Well, fuss further.
          2. BAI
            BAI 28 May 2020 00: 46 New
            +1
            They were paid, they did.

            Extremely stupid question.
            And did the workers of the USSR during the war work for free?
            Did you pay for these inscriptions too?

            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 28 May 2020 09: 15 New
              -2
              Quote: BAI

              Extremely stupid question.

              Did you pay for these inscriptions too?

              Extremely silly question

              Inscriptionsis free.
              Tanksmoney!

              PS what you where to write?
  • vladcub
    vladcub 27 May 2020 08: 44 New
    10
    What is true is that truth: Hitler in 1941 brought a whole "international": both Hungarians and Romanians and Negroes, and as they say: "every CREATURE in pairs"
    In 1812, Napoleon led the "bilingual" army, and Hitler had more greetings, but these
  • Van 16
    Van 16 27 May 2020 06: 36 New
    +8
    I won’t say words, some kind of words ... standard or something, but I like the music of our anthem, good music, powerful.
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 27 May 2020 09: 47 New
      0
      standard or something


      Well, the anthem is a pathos, easily memorized maestoso, bravura, not containing complex stylistic designs. Mikhalkov coped with this, I suppose. And then, I see, many confuse the anthem and the march.
  • apro
    apro 27 May 2020 06: 38 New
    +3
    For information ... no more ...
    The country's anthem shows the essence of the country in musical and textual format. Under the tsar, so that the tsar reigns safely. Under communists, the goal is the path to communism.
    Today's anthem is by and large incomprehensible. Alien music is redone. Alien text is redone.
    1. alebor
      alebor 27 May 2020 08: 28 New
      +4
      The main difference between the current text and the previous one, which immediately catches your eye, is the politically correct absence of words about "great Russia".
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 May 2020 06: 46 New
    11
    I lived and served under the anthem of the USSR, which was created as “Stalinist” in 1944, as amended after the death of the ITT. The music itself, which woke up all the inhabitants of the USSR every morning, could not leave anyone listening aside.
    I’m not going to talk about “God Save the Tsar”, and “Petrovsky” is very attractive, and the words to the place:
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 27 May 2020 08: 40 New
      13
      Another Russian patriotic march, known far beyond the borders of Russia ..

      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 27 May 2020 09: 18 New
        +4
        While you get through finding out who ruined the USSR, you get tired. wassat
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 27 May 2020 22: 39 New
          0
          The Bialowieza Four needed to be planted, and most correctly on a count. Kravchuk, by the way, is still alive. And labeled Mishanya, who allowed this, too.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 27 May 2020 07: 03 New
    +2
    Thanks to the author. All this is very interesting. It is interesting that each hymn had its own melody. Besides the Russian hymns, there were army songs that could become a hymn if desired.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 27 May 2020 07: 10 New
    +4
    To be honest, you can’t remember new words right away. When the hymn begins to sound, an old text pops up in my head by itself, "Union of the indestructible republics of the free .."
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 27 May 2020 08: 55 New
      +2
      When the hymn begins to sound, an old text pops up in my head

      And I so sang the old text while I served in the army. I believe that if the oath was given to the Soviet Union, then the same anthem should be the same.
  • bober1982
    bober1982 27 May 2020 07: 12 New
    -4
    I liked the article, a small remark.
    The “Preobrazhensky March” could not be the anthem of the White Guard units, as the author pointed out, they had already had these hymns — the Alekseevsky March, the Kornilovsky March, the Drozdovsky March, etc.
    1. tatra
      tatra 27 May 2020 07: 22 New
      +8
      I don’t know, but from the Web.
      The Transfiguration Regiment was disbanded at the very end of 1917, but its anthem march continued to exist in the White movement. In the Volunteer Army, it was used in the meaning of the Russian anthem.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 27 May 2020 07: 30 New
        -6
        Quote: tatra
        but from the web

        That's just the point, that from the Network.
        The White movement itself was very motley, they were not going to fight for the Tsar, and they were not going to sing monarchist hymns, ......and then have fun for the people and the king (Transfiguration March)
        The song itself (marches, hymns), the work of those years, is simply impressive, both on the one hand and on the other.
        1. tatra
          tatra 27 May 2020 07: 39 New
          +8
          Ha, that's it, all the enemies of the Bolshevik Communists in the USSR are the same, including the fact that those of them who started the Civil War after the October Revolution were not for the Romanovs, not for the Provisional Government, but stupidly AGAINST the Bolshevik Communists, and they hated each other . So those who captured the republics of the USSR not for their anti-Soviet power, but stupidly AGAINST Soviet power, and hate each other ..
      2. vladcub
        vladcub 27 May 2020 09: 02 New
        +6
        Remember the film, “The Elusive Avengers”, although there in a grotesque form, it correctly shows how popular the monarchy was with the Volunteers.
        A. I. himself was a supporter of the Constituent Assembly
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 27 May 2020 09: 09 New
          -7
          Quote: vladcub
          but it is correctly shown how monarchy was popular with the Volunteers.

          What, in the film, was the faithful shown? Second series Elusive It was rather stupid and disastrous, and what kind of popularity of the monarchy in the Dobrarmi, in general, can be said.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 27 May 2020 19: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: bober1982
            What, in the film, was the faithful shown?

            The monolithic unity of supporters of the White Idea and their commitment to common political principles. smile
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 27 May 2020 19: 40 New
              -4
              That is, monarchism.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 27 May 2020 08: 19 New
    -10
    The anthem of the USSR was first played on January 1, 1944. “The Union of the indestructible republics of the free / Great Russia united forever. / Long live created by the will of the peoples / One, mighty Soviet Union! ” (Music by Alexander Alexandrov, lyrics by Sergei Mikhalkov and El-Registan.) The anthem is beautiful, still goosebumps. Many were born with him. But some know, and some do not, that this is Nikita Mikhalkov’s uncle. But Sergei Sikhalkov had another brother, Mikhail Mikhalkov
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 27 May 2020 08: 30 New
      +3
      You got excited with the photo, and with the accusations of the person who graduated from the NKVD intelligence school, in 1956 the SS man was rehabilitated and awarded the Order of Glory, later he lectured at intelligence schools on the topic “Intelligence and Counterintelligence, as a KGB staff member
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 May 2020 10: 33 New
        -4
        Quote: bober1982
        You got excited with the photo, and with the accusations of the person who graduated from the NKVD intelligence school

        I didn’t blame, I put a photo, but you can read about his life from his memoirs
        "In the mazes of mortal risk." (About my military fate).
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 27 May 2020 10: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I put a photo

          Whose photo did you upload? Specifically - say his name and surname.
        2. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 27 May 2020 12: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I didn’t blame, I put a photo,

          You, in fact, have just slandered a person with ease.
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 27 May 2020 09: 02 New
      -4
      was the fascist uncle?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 May 2020 09: 09 New
        -7
        Quote: Bar1
        was the fascist uncle?

        Look on the net, there is a lot written about him.
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 27 May 2020 10: 12 New
          +4
          tell me, why are you better than the freaks who have thrown photos of the Nazis on the BP site?
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 27 May 2020 10: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
            tell me, why are you better than the freaks who have thrown photos of the Nazis on the BP site?

            These are professional provocateurs, they have such a job, their darkness here.
      2. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 27 May 2020 09: 59 New
        +1
        don't listen to fools. Here is an interview with M. Mikhalkov with official site of the FSB of the Russian Federation


        http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/history/author/single.htm!id%[email protected]
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 27 May 2020 19: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
          don't listen to fools.
          He is not, but a scoundrel!
          It, in context, denigrates a person.
          In addition, the photo of Mikhail Mikhalkov in the Nazi form is hardly preserved, i.e. another forgery.
    3. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 27 May 2020 10: 07 New
      +7
      pictured SS-Obersturmfuhrer Helmut Schreiber, commander of the 10th company of the 3rd battalion. shelf "Deutschland"
      What does he have to do with the Mikhalkovs?

      Why is this stupid nonsense?
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 27 May 2020 10: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
        Why is this stupid nonsense?

        Solder work out (dollars)
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 27 May 2020 11: 26 New
          +2
          hardly ... The usual distributor of network fakes. The same "toothless old woman" from Vysotsky’s song.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 27 May 2020 11: 38 New
            +2
            SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Helmuth Schraiber, the owner of the Knight's Cross, is now in a tomb turned around with indignation, we must think so.
      2. BAI
        BAI 28 May 2020 01: 08 New
        0
        Yes, the photo should have been cropped.
    4. Revolver
      Revolver 27 May 2020 22: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      words of Sergei Mikhalkov and El-Registan.

      Mikhalkov then overshadowed, in accordance with the political moment. As they said under Brezhnev, "twice the hymnuk of the Soviet Union." Now three times.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 28 May 2020 10: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        Mikhalkov then overshadowed, in accordance with the political moment. As they said under Brezhnev, "twice the hymnuk of the Soviet Union." Now three times.

        Gimnyuk, I'm a gimnyuk, but you will sing while standing.
        © Mikhalkov
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 29 May 2020 20: 21 New
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: Nagan
          Mikhalkov then overshadowed, in accordance with the political moment. As they said under Brezhnev, "twice the hymnuk of the Soviet Union." Now three times.

          Gimnyuk, I'm a gimnyuk, but you will sing while standing.
          © Mikhalkov
          good
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 27 May 2020 08: 23 New
    0
    I met information that the text "God Save the Tsar" was written by Pushkin and Zhukovsky.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 27 May 2020 08: 56 New
      -6
      Quote: Astra wild
      I met information that the text "God Save the Tsar" was written by Pushkin and Zhukovsky

      A.S. Pushkin - hardly helped Zhukovsky, Alexander Sergeyevich was busy with libels on him, there wasn’t enough time before the anthem.
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 27 May 2020 09: 13 New
      +4
      In Pushkin's drafts there is a close version of the text
    3. Senior seaman
      Senior seaman 27 May 2020 09: 50 New
      +6
      Not certainly in that way. The lyceist Pushkin in 1816, at the request of the director, wrote a poem with the same name, “Prayer of the Russians,” in which he added two of his own to the first stanzas of Zhukovsky. Then, when Zhukovsky rewrote the text of the anthem to the music of Lvov, the words "strong sovereign" appeared in him, which were not in the first version, but were in the version of Alexander Sergeyevich. This participation of the "sun of Russian poetry" in the writing of the anthem was limited.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 28 May 2020 09: 17 New
        0
        Man, you know a lot.
  • bober1982
    bober1982 27 May 2020 08: 39 New
    +5
    The photo with the SS man is, of course, a rough and cheap stuffing
  • Glory1974
    Glory1974 27 May 2020 08: 59 New
    +2
    Many good military marches have remained since imperial times. Many marches were redone, and red and white, in a new way during the Civil War. Some are now known as folk songs, although the origins are in the military songs of the regiments of the tsarist army.
    On holidays, a regimental orchestra always played in the city garden, an unforgettable experience of music. Both servicemen and civilians listened with pleasure.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 27 May 2020 22: 48 New
      0
      Quote: glory1974
      Many good military marches have remained since imperial times.

      Many marches, but one march. "Farewell of the Slav". Originally from tsarist times, but nothing more appropriate on Red Square on November 7, 1941, could have sounded.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 27 May 2020 09: 57 New
    0
    In fact, the victory of the revisionists, the hidden Trotskyists, was reflected in the anthem, which ultimately led to the disaster of Soviet civilization.

    This is a serious statement ..
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 27 May 2020 11: 02 New
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      This is a serious statement ..

      The boys said (revisionists) - the boys did (hidden Trotskyists).
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 27 May 2020 11: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: bober1982
        The boys said (revisionists) - the boys did (hidden Trotskyists).

        Well, perhaps. lol
  • rich
    rich 27 May 2020 16: 33 New
    +1
    Actually in the whole history of Russia there were only 10 hymns. Of these, only eight are officially approved.
    1. rich
      rich 27 May 2020 17: 14 New
      +2
      Of these, only eight are officially approved:
      1.Prayer of the Russians (1817-1833)
      At the end of 1816, Alexander I issued a decree on the use of this melody in meetings of the emperor as a national anthem (1816-1833).
      2. God save the Tsar! (1833-1917)
      The national anthem of the Russian Empire (1833-1917). Approved by decree of Nicholas the First of April 30 (May 12), 1834.
      3. Marseillaise (1917). It was used as the anthem of Russia in the first months after the February Revolution by decree of the Provisional Government.
      4. “Since our Lord is glorious in Zion” (1918−1923) Approved as the national anthem of Russia in the territories occupied by whites during the Civil War, by Order of the Supreme Commander of the Supreme Council of the U.S.S.R. No. 23 of 21.05
      5. The International (1918-1944) - The national anthem of the RSFSR (1918-1922), and after the formation of the Soviet Union (1922), it also became the anthem of the USSR (1922-1944).
      Approved by the Council of People's Commissars on January 10 (23 n.a.) January 1918.
      6. The national anthem of the USSR (1944-1991)
      Approved on December 14, 1943 by a resolution of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks. For the first time, a new anthem was performed on the night of January 1, 1944. Officially used since March 15, 1944.
      7. Glinka's Patriotic Song (1990-2000)
      It was approved as a hymn by the decision of the Supreme Council of the RSFSR on November 23, 1990. Since December 1991, when Russia became an independent state, it became the national anthem of the Russian Federation.
      Approved as such by decree (No. 2127) of the President of Russia B.N. Yeltsin on December 11, 1993.
      8. The national anthem of the Russian Federation (since 2000)
      Approved as a national anthem on December 30 by decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 2110 and approved by the State Duma on March 7, 2001
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 27 May 2020 20: 02 New
        -1
        Quote: Rich
        6. USSR National Anthem (1944-1991)
        Approved on December 14, 1943 by a resolution of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks. For the first time, a new anthem was performed on the night of January 1, 1944. Officially used since March 15, 1944.
        There are actually two of them: "Stalin" and "Khrychovsky."
      2. Fat
        Fat 28 May 2020 21: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Rich
        National Anthem of the Russian Federation (since 2000)
        Approved as a national anthem on December 30 by decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 2110 and approved by the State Duma on March 7, 2001

        This is the only official hymn where Russia is mentioned in the first couplet .....
  • vladcub
    vladcub 27 May 2020 18: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: bober1982
    The photo with the SS man is, of course, a rough and cheap stuffing

    But spectacular, and more to the author and is not required
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 27 May 2020 19: 47 New
      0
      Quote: vladcub
      But spectacular, and more to the author and is not required

      For such things - small, the tailbone is massaged.
  • BAI
    BAI 28 May 2020 00: 03 New
    +1
    Leopard change his spots. In a completely normal article about musical works, you need to stick
    led to the disaster of Soviet civilization. The bureaucracy and nomenclature temporarily crushed the national (Soviet) project for the development of the USSR-Russia, refused to break into the "bright future" for everyone.

    According to Engels, in “The Origin of the Family of Private Property and the State”: “the basis of civilization is the exploitation of one class by another" Who oppressed whom in the USSR? In the USSR, by definition, there was no civilization! This was the next step in the development of society.
  • Fat
    Fat 28 May 2020 16: 38 New
    0
    Thanks to Alexandre Samsonov. Understood a little. In my collection always “God save the king” and “God save the king (queen) are standing nearby. I am looking for differences.
    Thanks to Samsonov, I understood something. [b] [/ b]request
  • Fat
    Fat 28 May 2020 17: 21 New
    -1
    In the modern anthem of Russia, the name of the country is mentioned twice. In the first couplet. In the RI anthem from 1833 to 1917, not once, not counting the addition ...
    Russia Orthodox
    God Bless! God Bless!
    Her kingdom is slender,
    Your strength is calm!

    But this is an addition from Derzhavin to the main text ....
    What time! If the last Romanovs, Queen Victoria’s relatives were in priority.
    That along the way:
    Russia is our sacred state
    Russia is our favorite country.
    Mighty will, great glory -
    Your wealth for all time!

    This is the first song in recognition by the country of Independence ... that received ... with the recognition of the USSR, the country that gave it ...
    And not the kinship of the monarchs ....