How much are the revelations of German Gref

How much are the revelations of German Gref

With numbers at the ready



Western Europe seems to have stopped at a low start, pending quarantine and self-isolation. Someone continues to consider losses, the press is discussing the rampant growth of profits of billionaires without pathos and even indignation, and banks in the West are already reporting on the growth of accumulations of the general public. However, nothing of the kind has yet been heard from the walls of Russian credit institutions.

The uncontested leader of the banking sector, Sberbank of the Russian Federation, is now even more busy with the fact that he is circulating on his YouTube channel an openly provocative short film with Fedor Bondarchuk as Mephistopheles. And instead of reports on how things are going with folk money in this nationwide piggy bank, its head lowers some common figures to analysts and the media.

So, judging by the Sberbank report, signed personally by G. O. Gref, the net interest income of Sberbank in 2019 increased by 0,6% and amounted to 1,26 trillion. rub. Net fee and commission income increased by 9,9% year-on-year to 469,5 billion rubles. Profit before income tax increased by 11,9% and amounted to 1 billion rubles, while net profit increased by 088,6% to 11,2 billion rubles.

At the same time, the total amount of client funds for the year increased by 4,4%: funds of individuals increased by 6,6%, funds of legal entities - by 0,3%. Business experts noted that the results of Sberbank in 2019 reflected general trends for the country's banking sector: a slowdown in corporate lending, with an outstripping growth in lending to individuals.

From the point of view of a normal capitalist banker, these indicators really cannot be recognized simply as “brilliant”. The credit loop on the neck of the population, as well as that of business, should be tightened further. But to tighten slowly.

IPO operation. Too similar to "Y"!


The calculations signed by the chairman of the board can only be supplemented with a reminder that in May 2019, Sberbank shareholders re-elected German Gref for a fourth term. He will hold the post of president and chairman of the bank until 2023.

Apparently, this is a direct gratitude to the shareholders for the fact that under German Gref, dividends on ordinary shares of Sberbank grew rapidly. Although, what will be paid in 2019 will become known only after the meeting of shareholders. Nevertheless, we recall that the shares of Sberbank - these are the same securities from which the general public, in fact, with all privatizations openly distanced themselves, and simply threw random shareholders.


Defenders of Sberbank from among experts and journalists whom the authors are not going to blame for bias, here they will definitely remember that Sberbank participated in the so-called people's IPOs. You can’t say anything, they called beautifully the public offering of shares of a number of leading Russian companies and banks - supposedly primary, which is very controversial if there is already a crowd of existing shareholders.

We will not even try to explain here that this operation was more abrupt than the distribution of vouchers, especially since the coverage was much narrower. We only recall what it all turned out to be. Sberbank joined the company a little later than Rosneft and VTB, and even after it crushed the value of securities there in the summer of 2007.

One "old" ordinary share with a par value of 3 thousand rubles. could be exchanged for almost 1000 "new" par value of 3 rubles in almost any branch of Sberbank. each one. Moreover, one “old” preferred share (with which they do not vote, but are guaranteed to receive dividends) with a par value of 60 rubles. - 20 "new" privileged with the same face value of 3 rubles. each one.

After a very short period of time, all the shares of all the companies that went through the IPO came together in their quotes down. And this despite the fact that there was no global crisis and still no sanctions. It was just so necessary. To whom, I think, it is not necessary to explain. The crisis will still be, but later, in time it’s very successful in general, so that there is something to whom and to blame.

However, the whole point is that already in 2010, the prices of shares of Sberbank and Rosneft exceeded the IPO offering prices. Immediately after the crisis, with multi-billion infusions from the budget, which since then no one had thought to return to the budget, quotes simply rushed. But the majority of "left" shareholders by that time had already managed to throw overboard, as unnecessary ballast.

And just for this purpose the very dividends were sharply reduced, the rapid growth of which now leads the chairman of the board German Gref to such delight of his shareholders. No one, it seems, will ever ask the same German Oskarovich, why immediately after placing the payment per share they never exceeded 0,1 kopecks. Given the fallen quotes, the whole game with Sberbank shares for a simple shareholder lost all meaning.

For the simple, but not for the one who had the necessary information, which, in fact, is usually called insider. Abroad, the use of insiders by shareholders or officials for their own enrichment is considered one of the worst crimes. We have everything and everyone gets away with it ...

It remains only to inform readers how much the notorious dividends have grown during the reign of German Oskarovich. So, if according to the results of 2007 they amounted to a modest 0,51 rubles. per share (already “new.” - Auth.), after which somehow it suddenly fell immediately to 0,1 kopecks, then by the end of 2018 it had already reached 16 rubles. I wonder what will please the chairman of the board of shareholders of Sberbank following the results of 2019?

... And we are not expected in the Crimea


But what about those dividends to ordinary Sberbank depositors, who continue to impose loans at 15-20 percent per annum, keeping deposit rates at minimum levels? Our hard-earned people in Sberbank do not protect with any indexation, and do not even try to stimulate the public to extend and replenish these deposits.

In the office of German Gref, they completely shamelessly act on the principle of "where will they go." However, what else can one expect from a monopolist, who, with the help of his main shareholder, the Bank of the Russian Federation, simply crushed the latest hints of any competition in the Russian banking sector.


However, at the same time, Sberbank deliberately demonstratively does not work in Crimea, citing the need to observe the interests of millions of depositors who do not live in Crimea. While continuing to cut the commission, as soon as his cards are calculated somewhere “not there”.

In the opinion of Western and a number of Russian analysts, Sberbank’s refusal from Crimea is a balanced decision. Among the new shareholders of the bank, among those who replaced those affected by the public IPO, there are many Western funds, and sanctions can simply bring down its capitalization. Indeed, the freezing of external assets can also hit bank depositors, which is almost the entire population of Russia.

It’s not yet clear to the authors how they manage to circumvent Western sanctions, and yet not to break at the same time unthinkable credit interest, banks, including those with the participation of foreign capital, still working on the peninsula. After all, they, too, “are hardly worth risking stock quotes for the sake of the Crimea.” Let’s try to understand this issue in the following special publications from a place.
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  1. saigon 27 May 2020 15: 07 New
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    I can’t say how much they cost, but they are completely dragging me into treason!
    1. mark1 27 May 2020 15: 09 New
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      Where is Gref’s homeland?
      1. Sling cutter 27 May 2020 15: 22 New
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        Quote: mark1
        Where is Gref’s homeland?

        the gref, just like Chubais, has become a household name. What can we offer them, except for the article .. and what’s ahead is “treason” or embezzlement in especially large ones .. ", there the people will decide.
        1. Doccor18 27 May 2020 17: 06 New
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          Where is the homeland?

          These faceless homelands do not. They are absolutely corrupt.
        2. Sirocco 28 May 2020 17: 27 New
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          Quote: Stroporez
          Gref, just like Chubais, became a household name.

          Here is why.
      2. Uncle lee 27 May 2020 15: 27 New
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        He has no homeland ...
        1. mark1 27 May 2020 15: 32 New
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          Quote: Uncle Lee
          He has no homeland ...

          Cosmopolitan or what? Oh, Joseph Vissarionovich did not root out this infection!
          1. Uncle lee 27 May 2020 15: 37 New
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            Quote: mark1
            this infection

            Such a contagious, contagious infection! angry
          2. New Year day 27 May 2020 16: 34 New
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            Quote: mark1
            Oh, Joseph Vissarionovich did not root out this infection!

            okay to you! Who brought this infection to power is not an interesting question?
        2. CSKA 27 May 2020 17: 17 New
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          He has no homeland ...

          Regular delusional pictures. Neither Kennedy nor Gref had such statements. Kennedy’s only mention of Soviet education was the Special Congressional Message on Education of January 29, 1963. And Gref didn’t say that about education.
          “It always surprises me when they say that we had a great school in the Soviet Union,” Gref said. - But at the same time a terrible economy and so on. The country fell apart. But if there was such a wonderful school, then what was everything else so bad?
          Well, about the fact that he is gay, did you check it yourself?))))) And then, as a person, he is already twice married and has three children.
          1. businessv 27 May 2020 22: 00 New
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            Quote: CSKA
            Well, about the fact that he is gay, did you check this yourself?

            He is gay, not in the sense of a pederast, but in the sense of a prostitute - he sells himself at a bargain price, while pouring mud on the whole people and treating him like a dumb cattle!
            1. CSKA 28 May 2020 12: 17 New
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              Quote: businessv
              He is gay not in the sense of a pederast, but in the sense of a prostitute - he sells himself at a bargain price

              Examples.
              Quote: businessv
              while pouring mud on the whole people and treating him like a wordless cattle!

              And again examples of his words, but rather a video where he poured mud over people and treated him like cattle.
              1. businessv 29 May 2020 15: 43 New
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                Quote: CSKA
                And again examples of his words, but rather a video where he poured mud over people and treated him like cattle.

                about managing people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ8qMim7eIQ about education: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60c42YSnNdI I think that here you will be more intelligibly explained: https: // www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha9f3S-nxQE
                Z.Y. Personal request, colleague - please do not try to prove to me that Gref is a good person. For me, he is a banker who is trying to teach everyone life and government, and this is nonsense in my understanding! His job is to manage a bank and not meddle in the media space, and you won’t be able to breathe from smart people there!
                1. CSKA 29 May 2020 16: 38 New
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                  Personal request, colleague - please do not try to prove to me that Gref is a good person.

                  Gref and I personally do not know what to say if he is a good person or not, I can only say that he is a good banker. And as a person, he can be bad.
                  Quote: businessv
                  For me, he is a banker who is trying to teach everyone life and government.

                  He expresses his opinion, and does not teach life. And it is up to the listener to agree with him or not, or even listen to him.
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                  and this is nonsense in my understanding!

                  You know in the West, too, many journalists, bankers, and even actors (a video from DeNiro about Trump) express their opinions without interruption, but this does not mean that they teach life or learn how to govern the country.
                  Quote: businessv
                  His job is to manage a bank and not meddle in the media space, and you won’t be able to breathe from smart people there!

                  I agree with you. I also think that if he should give an interview, it should concern Sberbank and the financial sector.
                  I saw all these videos. On managing people, in the comments on this article I have already explained my vision to one comrade. Honestly, there is still no time for you to write.
                  By education, I don’t know at all that you saw anything bad there.
              2. BecmepH 30 May 2020 16: 02 New
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                Quote: CSKA
                And again examples of his words, but rather a video

                Quote: CSKA
                Well, about the fact that he is gay, is that you yourself checked?)))))

                And you checked, it seems ...
                1. CSKA 1 June 2020 12: 06 New
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                  And you checked, it seems ...

                  Wow, joked so joked. A man has already been married twice and has three children, but you can’t live a normal life in order not to call a man gay.
                  1. BecmepH 1 June 2020 12: 08 New
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                    Quote: CSKA
                    Quote: BecmepH
                    And you checked, it seems ...

                    Wow, joked so joked. A man has already been married twice and has three children, but you can’t live a normal life in order not to call a man gay.

                    So I'm not talking about Gref, but about you. You suggest others to check, but you do not want to.
                    1. CSKA 1 June 2020 15: 52 New
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                      Quote: BecmepH
                      So I'm not talking about Gref, but about you. You suggest others to check, but you do not want to.

                      No, I do not want the wrong orientation. And I have no habit of insulting a person without evidence. But some forum users think that it is possible to insult Gref on a personal dislike.
                      1. BecmepH 2 June 2020 10: 30 New
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                        Quote: CSKA
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        So I'm not talking about Gref, but about you. You suggest others to check, but you do not want to.

                        No, I do not want the wrong orientation. And I have no habit of insulting a person without evidence. But some forum users think that it is possible to insult Gref on a personal dislike.

                        And what good did Gref, beloved by you, for the citizens of Russia?
                      2. CSKA 2 June 2020 14: 41 New
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                        And what good did Gref, beloved by you, for the citizens of Russia?

                        And what should citizen Gref and why should it suddenly do something good for Russian citizens? He is the usual head of the bank, even the largest. same as the heads of banks in other countries. His task is to manage the bank and that he would make a profit, which he does. And with this situation, you can ask you what you did for the citizens of Russia? And he is not adored by me. I have no idea what kind of person he is, maybe even the last insignificance, but he is an expert in his field.
                      3. BecmepH 3 June 2020 12: 07 New
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                        Quote: CSKA
                        he made a profit
                        robbing the population ... To whom did he bring profit?
                        Quote: CSKA
                        What have you done for the citizens of Russia?

                        I defended my homeland in uniform!
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                        but he is an expert in his field.
                        By definition, a person cannot be a specialist working in different areas of production, business, economics, etc. ...
                        I understand that you simply cannot, by virtue of character, agree with arguments that contradict your word. And therefore I wish you all the best and end our useless debate.
      3. aba
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        He has repeatedly spoken about education, that it should not be free, and another time he complained that educated people cannot be controlled, manipulated. So whatever the picture is about, but for Gref the best customer is the one who can put a cross or a fingerprint under the loan agreement.
        1. CSKA 28 May 2020 12: 19 New
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          He has repeatedly spoken about education, that it should not be free, and another time he complained that educated people cannot be controlled, manipulated.

          Everyone has the right to their opinion, but he did not speak out about education.
    2. Kronos 27 May 2020 18: 49 New
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      is it his body armor?
      1. vindigo 29 May 2020 00: 03 New
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        Some kind of newfangled suit for the disabled.
        1. Kronos 29 May 2020 00: 04 New
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          I know I just thought he also put on a body armor from grateful people robbed by them
  2. New Year day 27 May 2020 16: 39 New
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    Where is Gref’s homeland?

    His homeland is where the money is. And the son works at Deutsche Bank in Germany
    1. CSKA 27 May 2020 17: 18 New
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      His homeland is where the money is. And the son works at Deutsche Bank in Germany

      So what? Wasn't his son allowed to work at Deutsche Bank? And if your son settled down, can he?
    2. Krasnodar 27 May 2020 20: 01 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: mark1
      Where is Gref’s homeland?

      His homeland is where the money is. And the son works at Deutsche Bank in Germany

      Not. Homeland there, whose phone. Most members of the forum is China.
      1. Motorist 27 May 2020 23: 09 New
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        whose phone

        Wow, am I a Finn? laughing
        1. Krasnodar 28 May 2020 00: 55 New
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          If Nokia - then certainly laughing I'm Chinese of American descent
  3. stariy 27 May 2020 16: 46 New
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    Quote: mark1
    Where is Gref’s homeland?

    And he has no flag, no homeland, no conscience, no honor ...
    1. NordUral 27 May 2020 17: 01 New
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      The funny thing is that he has no future, like any traitor. The West uses such, but does not accept to its elite.
      It’s true that it’s not joyful for us that he and such people as it is insignificance, if we let Russia collapse, these Western “partners” will be shod.
      Something like the famous Ostap B.
      1. stariy 27 May 2020 17: 06 New
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        he has no future

        but like him, the future doesn’t need them "right now, shtob is good" and after that the grass doesn’t grow if only they thought about the future, they developed the country and not pulled it
        1. NordUral 27 May 2020 17: 08 New
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          It's just that their plans are not our future, Andrei Ivanovich.
          1. stariy 27 May 2020 17: 12 New
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            not our future

            Eugene, as you wrote above, they are strangers there, without us, they won’t wake them
      2. CSKA 27 May 2020 17: 18 New
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        Quote: NordUral
        The funny thing is that he has no future, like any traitor.

        And what is his betrayal?
        1. NordUral 27 May 2020 17: 30 New
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          He betrayed the country in which he was born, deliberately betrayed.
          1. CSKA 27 May 2020 18: 11 New
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            Betrayed the country in which he was born, knowingly betrayed

            Again. What is his betrayal?
            1. NordUral 27 May 2020 21: 06 New
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              I see no reason to answer, CSKA.
              1. CSKA 28 May 2020 12: 14 New
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                I see no reason to answer, CSKA.

                Because Eugene has nothing to answer. There is a clear concept of what “betrayal" is, and there is nothing to say and blame about it.
                1. NordUral 28 May 2020 12: 23 New
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                  The beads of the frame have long blurred precisely such as the gref. And he is a traitor because he was a member of the CPSU, which he betrayed. Otherwise, he is simply an enemy of the people.
                  1. CSKA 28 May 2020 12: 33 New
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                    Quote: NordUral
                    The beads of the frame have long blurred precisely such as the gref. And he is a traitor because he was a member of the CPSU, which he betrayed.

                    Members of the Communist Party were millions of people they all betrayed? He was not a member of the Central Committee of the CPSU and was not in power. So what did he betray? And you yourself were a member of the CPSU?
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                    Otherwise, he is simply an enemy of the people.

                    Oh my God. So what is he an enemy? At least one of you can answer the facts? Some common phrases are "enemy", "traitor", "bandit" and the like. But no one can answer in fact.
                  2. NordUral 28 May 2020 12: 43 New
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                    He was not a member of the CPSU. Yes, about those who were in the party, we can say that they betrayed. But the main traitors are the top of the CPSU, and the rest are bullied, like the rest of the people.
                    The enemy in his intentions, actions and words.
                  3. CSKA 28 May 2020 13: 40 New
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                    Quote: NordUral
                    He was not a member of the CPSU. Yes, about those who were in the party, we can say that they betrayed. But the main traitors are the top of the CPSU, and the rest are bullied, like the rest of the people.

                    Do not you think that there are many traitors in the Communist Party? And that they were all directly recruited? How do you imagine this? And all right from such a good life in the USSR took to the streets beyond EBN and did not support the Emergency Committee.
                    Quote: NordUral
                    The enemy in his intentions, actions and words.

                    Again, common phrases. How can you know his intentions? And what are they? What is his action? That he made Sberbank the largest bank with a large net profit? And his words only in the comments on this article more than once twisted.
                  4. NordUral 28 May 2020 14: 43 New
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                    Do not you think that there are many traitors in the Communist Party? And that they were all directly recruited? How do you imagine this? And all right from such a good life in the USSR took to the streets beyond EBN and did not support the Emergency Committee.

                    I don’t even think so. And I have long been asserting that changes are needed in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
                    And about how the Union was by the 91st. So the renegades from the top have been preparing this since 1953. And they did a good job, alas.
                    And about the gref:

                    This is only one of several videos where this good person broadcasts.
                  5. CSKA 29 May 2020 13: 29 New
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                    Quote: NordUral
                    I don’t even think so. And I have long been asserting that changes are needed in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

                    Changes were needed back in the Communist Party. And there were no traitors whom someone recruited there. It’s just that people in power already in the late 80s were weak politicians, and even more so economists. When the country began to fall apart, they quickly changed their shoes to stay in power.
                    Quote: NordUral
                    So the renegades from the top have been preparing this since 1953. And they did a good job, alas.

                    Enough to tell this hackneyed communist myth about Trotskyists in power after the 53rd. None of you know the difference and understand what Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism or Maoism are. What makes you think that Trotsky or his followers wanted the collapse of the USSR? All your hatred of Trotsky and all this myth invented is based only on Stalin's hatred of Trotsky.
                    In general, how do you imagine this? Stalin died and suddenly Khrushchev and the rest realized that they were Trotskyites and began to gather quietly in the room and think about how to dump the USSR?))))) Just think about it.
                    Quote: NordUral
                    And about the gref:

                    Quote: NordUral
                    This is only one of several videos where this good person broadcasts.

                    )))) Oh God. I have no words. And what does this terrible blogger think is going on? It turns out that the blogger was excited that Sberbank posted articles on the site. And the books of Azimov did not excite him? He remembered about Stephen Hawking. He had a lot of thoughts about AI, but nowhere and never did he say that AI should be abandoned. All the advanced countries of the world are developing in AI, and here an unknown blogger does not understand what he is based on. The type of article title scares him. Well, of course, how can one not remember about gasification.)))) What kind of article will it be about AI if it also doesn't remember gasification and gas pipelines.
                  6. NordUral 29 May 2020 13: 39 New
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                    Changes were needed back in the Communist Party. And there were no traitors whom someone recruited there. It’s just that people in power already in the late 80s were weak politicians, and even more so economists.
                    I agree.
                    None of you know the difference and understand what Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism or Maoism are.

                    I agree, only you understand and know everything. I do not pretend to be.
                    Stalin died and suddenly Khrushchev and the rest realized that they were Trotskyites and began to gather quietly in the room and think about how to dump the USSR?))))) Just think about it.
                    Khrushchev was not going to ruin, everything turned out according to his intellect and complexes.
                    And what does this terrible blogger think is going on?
                    And where is the blogger? You listen to a good fret man.
                  7. CSKA 29 May 2020 16: 13 New
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                    Quote: NordUral
                    I agree, only you understand and know everything. I do not pretend to be.

                    I do not say that I know everything. It’s just that a stable myth has formed among part of you Communists that after Stalin the Trotskyists came to power and brought the powerful country to collapse. However, it is not clear why Trotskyism was stuck.
                    Quote: NordUral
                    Khrushchev was not going to ruin, everything turned out according to his intellect and complexes.

                    Totally agree with you. The level of his intellect left much to be desired. It was illiterate, envious, with a small amount of knowledge, a man, but considering himself a specialist in all areas.
                    Quote: NordUral
                    And where is the blogger?

                    Actually, I had the original video as a blogger, and now Gref. Did you change or did I accidentally click on another?
                    Well, let's take a look at Gref's words. He certainly has the right to his opinion, but in essence. The first thing he says is that you propose that the power be transferred into the hands of the population, but if everyone can participate in the government, then what will we direct. This is basically the essence of the interview. I looked and a wider version.
                    Do you disagree with this? How do you imagine this in terms of at least a lot of a millionth city? In it, 20 million people can manage? There are international standards accepted in all countries. Be it capitalist or socialist. The population elects the head, mayor, governor, parliament, president. Or the debate which the authorities appoint to various posts, and not everyone directs directly.
                  8. NordUral 29 May 2020 17: 09 New
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                    I am not a communist, Sergey. And you don’t even need to comment on the count, this scum said everything herself.
                    The first thing he says is that you propose that the power be transferred into the hands of the population, but if everyone can participate in the government, then what will we direct. This is basically the essence of the interview.
                    Wow, this is the essence of his stupid revelations.
                  9. CSKA 29 May 2020 17: 21 New
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                    I am not a communist, Sergey. And you don’t even need to comment on the count, this scum said everything herself.

                    On your profile picture you will not say so.)))
                    I wrote to you above what he meant. Moreover, this is purely his opinion. Just like some kind of pseudo liberal such as a gozman can call you scum for our vision of Russia's development, though socialist, even capitalist.
                  10. NordUral 29 May 2020 17: 23 New
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                    I do not need to explain what this scum meant, I'm not deaf when I watched this and other videos with him. Everything is definitely there.
                    And about the communist, not the communist. When the Union was there, the majority there were non-partisan, which did not prevent them from living and working under socialism.
            2. CSKA 29 May 2020 16: 23 New
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              The second one. Any mass rule implies an element of manipulation. In this I agree with him. Everyone is manipulating and all governments are trying in all countries
              of the world. There are no utopias.
              Third: About the general and massive availability of information, which he is so afraid of. Just imagine that all this avalanche of unadorned information from all the media will fall on the heads of millions. Most people do not have much knowledge and ability to analyze. People themselves are like that. Most are interested in having a soft spot in the warmth and guts full. You would like this avalanche to be socialist and put the brains of the whole population. And if it will be a liberda? And these creatures will clear the brains of millions. Will you like it
              There must be an establishment that will receive all the information and analyze it. It was kind of the top party in the USSR. But power should not be given to everyone. There are no equal. Among all equals, there is someone more equal. And therefore, they cannot rule the country at the same time.
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              The second one. Any mass rule implies an element of manipulation. In this I agree with him. Everyone is manipulating and all governments are trying in all countries
              of the world. There are no utopias.
              Third: About the general and massive availability of information, which he is so afraid of. Just imagine that all this avalanche of unadorned information from all the media will fall on the heads of millions.

              You beautifully blur what he said, Sergey.
              As for the management of the people, the same States do an excellent job of this, with all the explicit and implicit manipulation of the upper.
              And about us - before the arrival of the labeled one, I was a district deputy one convocation (I was not invited to the second for my comments on their level of management). The people may well participate in government at all levels. Not all, but most. But only when he realizes that it is not for a screen, but this was formed in all its glory by the 80s.
              Even then, these grefs tried to explain to us that we are crap, but unobtrusively so. And these are just biting.
            4. CSKA 29 May 2020 17: 42 New
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              You beautifully blur what he said, Sergey.

              Yes, what is there blurring, nothing to blur. Gref divorced the usual philosophy, nothing special. He expressed his opinion. Nothing in his words about education is so bad either. I saw these videos. The vast majority of comments to this article by two-handed scribblers have probably not even seen it. There are no insults to the people there.
              Quote: NordUral
              As for the management of the people, the same States do an excellent job of this, with all the explicit and implicit manipulation of the upper.

              Yes. Do you want yours?
              Quote: NordUral
              The people may well participate in government at all levels.

              In the management of lower levels. At a high level, he cannot do this.
              Here explain to me how the people can quickly solve the question of the outbreak of war, voting at the UN, the adoption of any law. And if you take the economy. Not only that, the majority in it is small, which understands, many also have a different vision of it. You are a socialist, I am a capitalist or a market socialist. And there are still supporters of the liberal economy. How to solve issues? By voting? And so we vote for the party and the president and their programs in foreign and domestic politics. So far, apart from democratic rule, party and monarchy, nothing has been invented.
            5. NordUral 29 May 2020 18: 14 New
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              At a high level, he cannot do this.


              And those who are above, where do they come from?

              You are a socialist, I am a capitalist or a market socialist.

              I worked in free swimming since January 89th. He went bankrupt several times, but ended his vigorous activity with a positive balance, which allows me not to particularly worry about my future.
              And not speculation, but production and services. And I was quite happy and comfortable with socialism with market elements. But it’s not a clan early feudal system with elements of fascism that we now have, which also has a bare backside to everything.
  • Kronos 27 May 2020 18: 51 New
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    Why not, many traitors are not bad in the West settled? Moreover, he does not need to go there under the current government, he will flourish until he is old and quiet death
    1. NordUral 27 May 2020 21: 09 New
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      For the time being. Russia will not (I hope that this will not be) they will be erased into powder, having stolen the stolen goods. The process has begun. From Deripaska, and earlier from Crete.
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        Quote: NordUral
        The process has begun. From Deripaska, and earlier from Crete.

        And what is the process from Deripaska and where does Crete have to do with it?
        1. NordUral 28 May 2020 12: 18 New
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          Deripaska - weaning of aluminum and generation. According to Crete - a mistake, I don’t know that it was he who surfaced in his head. Cyprus and also the weaning of finances from some of “our” offshore lovers.
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            Quote: NordUral
            Deripaska - weaning of aluminum and generation

            Nothing was taken from Deripaska.
            Quote: NordUral
            Cyprus and also the weaning of finances from some of “our” offshore lovers.

            Yet again. Nobody was robbed of anything. Or give examples.
            1. NordUral 28 May 2020 12: 25 New
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              Of course, since it was taken from Russia. And his "crumbs" left him.
              I say, there is no point in answering you, for you and the Sun shines at night.
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                Quote: NordUral
                Of course, since it was taken from Russia. And his "crumbs" left him.

                Eugene, you can write only in general phrases, without facts directly on the propaganda of the Communist Party.)))) Deripaska has a controlling stake in Rusal. Nothing was taken from Russia. It was formed in 2000, combining the assets of SIBAL Oleg Deripaska and Millhouse Capital Roman Abramovich. The company became one of the three largest aluminum companies in the world and issued ¾ of Russian aluminum production.
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                I say, it makes no sense to answer you

                Because there is nothing to answer.
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                for you and the sun shines at night.

                The sun is a star that always shines in our solar system.))))))
              2. NordUral 28 May 2020 12: 46 New
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                The sun is a star that always shines in our solar system.))))))
                I thought so.

                You would delve into the essence of the problem, and whose aluminum is now, etc., and then really scattered about the "achievements" of the ring.
              3. CSKA 28 May 2020 13: 44 New
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                You would delve into the essence of the problem, and whose aluminum is now, etc., and then really scattered about the "achievements" of the ring.

                ))))) Already just funny. Some common phrases. I can’t say anything, I don’t want to, delve into yourself. They could not and cannot answer the facts. I just know more than you whose aluminum they put it, and all the nonsense is unproven that Rusal belongs to the United States; leave it for the stories of backward people who are not capable of just delving into the essence of the issue.
              4. NordUral 28 May 2020 14: 37 New
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                I did not say that the United States belonged, I said that Russia did not have a control pact. I climbed on this issue online and I know what I'm saying. Not in details, of course, but the essence is clear.
                And stop being rude, CSKA. Rudeness is not an argument.
              5. CSKA 28 May 2020 15: 35 New
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                I did not say that the United States belonged, I said that Russia did not have a control pact.

                And why is it that a controlling stake in a private company must belong to Russia?
                Quote: NordUral
                And stop being rude, CSKA. Rudeness is not an argument.

                Eugene, I’m just not rude to you. I only state that you have no facts. And completely agree with you rudeness is not an argument.
              6. NordUral 28 May 2020 17: 37 New
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                And why is it that a controlling stake in a private company must belong to Russia?

                A strange question for a citizen of Russia.
                I was born in a city in the Northern Urals, where my father worked at the BAZ, an aluminum smelter that squeezed thieves from the country, including Deripaska.
                Someone was also born in other cities of Siberia, where factories and hydroelectric power plants were also built, which today, quite by accident, belong to either thieves or their accomplices from the West.
                And do you think this is normal? That’s why I told you that there’s nothing to talk to you about.
              7. CSKA 29 May 2020 10: 31 New
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                A strange question for a citizen of Russia.

                There is nothing strange here. It is for you all the Communists to be state, despite the fact that you Communists did not even read your Marx about socialism.
                The system built in the USSR had nothing to do with the Marxist understanding of socialism, since under it there was neither the self-government of the working people, nor the "withering away" of the state, nor public (and not state) ownership of the means of production; alienation, which, according to Marx, must be overcome under socialism.
                In all economically developed countries with a high standard of living, everything is privately owned. Take at least South Korea, at least Japan, at least France.
                They have a liberal model of the economy and it has shown its viability. I am a conservative and a supporter of a conservative model of the economy. When the state has a share or a controlling stake in some sectors, as well as in the PRC, for example, where the Communists are in power but the market economy. When the state regulates some economic processes in the country. But the planned economy showed its failure on the example of the USSR. Or can you give the DPRK economy as an example?
                Quote: NordUral
                which thieves were squeezed from the country, including the Deripaska.

                Nobody squeezed anything out of the country. Do you even read that period. There was a privatization. Personally, my opinion is that it was not done correctly. It was carried out by economists who studied economics in the USSR and did not understand much in a market economy. They led her stupidly. And then they also did not want to admit their mistakes. But there was what it was. Read how people themselves got rid of vouchers and did not even understand their value.
                All these your big words about "thieves" and "accomplices from the West" is all nonsense. Smart people saw the prospect and managed to find money. And stupid people sold vouchers for a bottle of vodka or a penny. Here is an example.
                Victor Rashnikov. He began his career at the Magnitogorsk Iron and Steel Works (MMK) in 1967 as a mechanic in the workshop for repairing metallurgical equipment No. 2. He worked as an operator, foreman, foreman, shift supervisor, shop foreman, and head of the production and supply department. In 1991, he was appointed Chief Engineer, First Deputy General Director. Since 1997, he headed MMK as CEO. Since April 2005 - Chairman of the Board of Directors.
                Is he your thief? And what and how did he steal from whom?
                I am not saying that all our oligarchs are saints, and that everything is rightfully all legally privatized assets, but this does not mean that everyone needs one comb.
                As for the "accomplices from the West."
                All countries are trying to attract investment. In China, special economic zones were created at one time. In many of their companies, 1/2 to 2/3 of the shares are owned by foreigners, mainly the United States and the EU) and freely rotate in the stock markets. And no one there tears his own hair. But here the Communists drove into their heads that investment is bad.
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                They led her stupidly.
                Worthlessly spent? And in my opinion, it’s so brilliant, but only for them and some other people.
                An example of Rashnikov and others like him is an exception to the rule.
                About investments - don’t tell me that at all, bringing China.
                Western enterprises and those working in the West were created there. China was lucky then, and its leaders skillfully took advantage of the greed of the West.
                In our country, the powerful industry in the main sectors was transferred to unclear what hands, moreover, in a direct criminal way with the help of secured auctions.
                And in whose hands she is a big question. The one that still works, and not destroyed by the root.
                Now I will answer for investments. I had my own business since the 89th. And I clearly know that a loan on reasonable terms is better for me than investors who will be sitting on their neck telling me what to do and how.
                It is only for large enterprises that investments are important, but not just investments, but paired with technologies and equipment for these technologies.
                How many technologies have come to Russia in 30 years of the market? One is a screwdriver assembly.

                And lastly, if technology does not come, then Russia’s investments are not needed, but needed, an independent financial system is needed that is untied from the West.
  • Second major 27 May 2020 17: 44 New
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    The homeland of Gref and Chubais is Hell.
  • Pushkar 29 May 2020 13: 11 New
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    Where is Gref's homeland? Germany. His parents are from the Donbass Germans who were evicted to Kazakhstan in 1941. All the more interesting are his discussions about Kaballah and governing the world. Goebbels smells.
  • Svarog 27 May 2020 15: 25 New
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    So, judging by the Sberbank report, signed personally by G.O. Gref, the net interest income of Sberbank in 2019 increased by 0,6% and amounted to 1,26 trillion. rub.

    It earns money on the country's population, at a time when people's incomes are falling in banks, incomes are growing ..
    Tax authorities, bankers, the Central Bank (lowering the ruble exchange rate) are generally sheared from the population in general by the state .. at the same time, it is explained to gullible citizens that the enemies are supposed to be everywhere ... they are to blame .. and we are all for your sake ...
    And what does the state give in return? The retirement age, to which not many reach .. medicine, which is practically absent, drugs that can not be approached ... J. Alferov was right ..
    Wolves in sheep’s wool ..
    How much are the revelations of German Gref

    And according to his revelations, or rather, on manipulations, he himself stated at the forum that the population did not need education and information, because then it would be difficult for them to manipulate.
    1. NordUral 27 May 2020 17: 04 New
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      Wolves in sheep’s wool ..
      What wolves, jackals! The wolf is a brave and proud predator; it does not feed on carrion. And these turned our country into wounds and are patiently waiting for decomposition to make it easier to tear it with rotten fangs.
    2. Reptiloid 28 May 2020 07: 56 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      ......... people's incomes fall in banks; incomes grow ....... Taxes, bankers, the Central Bank (lowering the ruble exchange rate) are cut by the state from the population in general .. at the same time they explain to gullible citizens that they say enemies everywhere ... they are to blame .. and then we are all for your sake ...
      And what does the state give in return? Retirement age, to which not many reach .. .......
      How much are the revelations of German Gref
      And according to his revelations, or rather, on manipulations, he himself stated at the forum that the population did not need education and information, because then it would be difficult for them to manipulate.
      Gref is part of this liberal system that came to power after the destruction of the USSR. If it were not for him, a liberal like him would appear, wishing to earn money on the population. All this liberalism is parasites and worms.
  • Civil 27 May 2020 15: 25 New
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    Does it make sense to criticize Gref? He is in great shape, in power, with money, prospects, healthy and energetic. Nothing to oppose. Because we have weakness. Stalin spoke quite well after the surrender of Tosno in 1941 about you. "Just reported that Tosno was taken by the enemy. If this continues, I am afraid that Leningrad will be surrendered stupidly stupid, and all Leningrad divisions run the risk of being captured. What do Popov and Voroshilov do? They do not even report on the measures that they think to take against such a danger. They are busy looking for new lines of retreat, in this they see their task. Where did they get such an abyss of passivity and purely rural humility to fate What kind of people I don’t understand. "
    Stalin knew you weak in 1941) lol
    1. V1er 27 May 2020 15: 35 New
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      Where did they get such an abyss of passivity and purely village humility to fate? What kind of people I don’t understand

      Gold words.
    2. NordUral 27 May 2020 17: 07 New
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      Civil! I would tell you who you are, but moderators for liberals doze him. However, you already understand everything. Although there is some truth in your words. While there.
      1. Civil 27 May 2020 20: 30 New
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        Civil! I would tell you who you are, but moderators for liberals doze him. However, you already understand everything. Although there is some truth in your words. While there.

        What was liberal in my commentary, or do you already have Comrade Stalin as a liberal? Or is the truth from Joseph Vissarionovich burning the remnants of self-respect?
        1. NordUral 27 May 2020 21: 01 New
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          Vadim! Lucky thieves are also in chocolate. Do not drag Stalin. His words are from another time and other circumstances.
          And yet - I personally have nothing to repent of on the 91st. Those promises were fine with me. But they cheated. And quite adroit, because the curators were history swindlers, Anglo-Saxons.
          But at least I woke up, it's really late.
          And do not drag Stalin to his arguments. He certainly will not support you.
          1. Civil 27 May 2020 21: 22 New
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            Eugene. Started to come to your senses - get to the end. Stalin clearly defined the passive and submissive majority as the main source of all ills. It was not the Anglo-Saxons who changed their vouchers for a bottle of vodka, not the Americans that littered the banks of the rivers with rubbish, not the gay people who silently endured all humiliation and requisitions ... so on.
            1. NordUral 27 May 2020 21: 27 New
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              In this you are right, Vadim. And constantly I repeat both in and in real life that it is time to wake up.
              1. Civil 27 May 2020 21: 31 New
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                In this you are right, Vadim. And constantly I repeat both in and in real life that it is time to wake up.

                It’s too late for me. Very high average age of the population. Point no return passed. I support Putin, he will prolong the agony. Any sharp reforms will destroy the country before I fall into insanity. So all that remains is to have fun on the Titanic. drinks
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                  Russia is not the Titanic, Vadim. I’m sure that we’ll get to our feet if we do not tighten with waking up. I would like to live to see this.
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                  I believe that a lot of the population today is more than a minus than a plus for the state. We need to think how to control the vast areas of our country. The economy of consumption has come to an end, but the country's resources will also be in demand and there will be someone who wants to pick them up. My opinion, the development of unmanned vehicles, the automation of everything that is possible and the reduction of the country's population will not be something terrible.
  • Polente the Wanderer 27 May 2020 15: 58 New
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    Gref is selected by the state. The state (in the person of the chosen or appointed) controls Sberbank completely.
  • NEXUS 27 May 2020 17: 14 New
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    I can’t say how much they cost, but they are completely dragging me into treason!

    Well, his homeland is definitely not the Russian Federation, in the global understanding of the homeland.
    Now about citizen Gref ...
    this eccentric, with the letter M, is talking about ... there will be distance education and personal education (really with a teacher). Remote - free, affordable and simplified. If you are not lazy, take a look at the Sberbank training page. Three types of training - first: free simplified. Second: professional. And third: practical. What do you think the young man will choose from the three options?
    Moreover, citizen Gref believes that medicine should be divided into distance (free) and personal (very paid).
    At the same time, citizens Gref very clearly understands that it is easier to govern a people when it is UNLAWFUL. When people do not have access to KNOWLEDGE. Video for 12 years is also on YouTube.
    As for Sberbank itself, I have only one question, but with what hangover, is there a good percentage of American and English capital in the shareholders of Sberbank?
  • Ross xnumx 28 May 2020 17: 50 New
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    I can’t say how much they cost, but they are completely dragging me into treason!

    His actions fit the definition:
    “Theft on an especially large scale using official position (and patronage)”
    Lifetime state maintenance in the penitentiary institution with the confiscation of "fairly acquired" is quite enough.
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    rootless cosmopolitans have no homeland ...
  • Crowe 27 May 2020 15: 11 New
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    How much are the revelations of German Gref

    Thirty pieces of silver.
  • Million 27 May 2020 15: 13 New
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    Putin is probably not in the know, otherwise he would have asked him!
    1. Snail N9 27 May 2020 15: 22 New
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      “Not in the know ...” Here is the “sun-faced” universe (one of the versions):
      :
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        Quote: Snail N9
        “Not in the know ...” Here is the “sun-faced” universe (one of the versions):

        You would have slapped another 10x10 pix ...
        1. The comment was deleted.
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        Quote: Snail N9
        “Not in the know ...” Here is the “sun-faced” universe (one of the versions):
        :

        And the orbits are right for everyone. laughing
        1. V1er 27 May 2020 15: 38 New
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          Something I can’t find Mishustin here. And I don’t know half of the entrepreneurs, not public people.
          1. New Year day 27 May 2020 16: 36 New
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            Quote: V1er
            Something I can’t find Mishustin here.

            fakir for an hour. Soon, no one will remember about him
        2. Uncle lee 27 May 2020 15: 39 New
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          orbits right

          According to the table of grades and proximity to the body .... no
        3. Motorist 27 May 2020 23: 33 New
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          the orbits are right for everyone


          Kepler does not approve: unstable orbits - the masses are close to each other; Yes, and the eccentricity is large - even an ellipse will become a parabola (or even a hyperbole). Collisions and cataclysms are possible.

          By the way, what is written there? Not a word can be understood in this "masterpiece".
      3. dauria 27 May 2020 22: 33 New
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        Here is the “sun-faced” universe (one of the versions):


        You need to have a lot of people spinning around you. The sky looks different. A bunch of Potanins, Deripasok and other promissory notes stuck together, in one heavy lump, gritting their teeth and looking at each other with hatred. Moreover, this one doesn’t shine, the fuel is over and the star died, dropping ordinary people like a shell. So, the remnants of the compressed core burn out, cooling down. And now around this coma planets revolve. Presidents and ministers, governors and smaller. With entrepreneurial wives, relatives and other orbital debris. And the small fry of ordinary people who continue to spin dust in distant orbits without heat and light, who have already flown beyond the limits of gravitation to other stars.
    2. Polente the Wanderer 27 May 2020 16: 00 New
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      Without the approval of the head of state, Gref would not have been appointed
  • parusnik 27 May 2020 15: 35 New
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    Gref, Chubais, etc .. the list can be supplemented, one CJSC "Shayka-Lei-ka"
    1. Crowe 27 May 2020 16: 57 New
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      Sechin, Miller, Nabiullina, and further on the list. They are all of the same field of berries. All of them have children, real estate, assets abroad. Fifth column.
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        Sechin, Miller, Nabiullina, and further on the list. They are all of the same field of berries. All of them have children, real estate, assets abroad. Fifth column.

        )))))))) So list exactly their children, where they live, where their real estate and what assets are at the bottom abroad. Only without idle chatter, but with evidence.
    2. NEXUS 27 May 2020 17: 59 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      Gref, Chubais, etc .. the list can be supplemented, one CJSC "Shayka-Lei-ka"

      Here is one of the bloggers shares his impressions of the affairs of the not so distant Sberbank.
  • Catholic 27 May 2020 16: 06 New
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    How much are the revelations of German Gref

    They do not cost anything. There are no revelations, there is a reality in which a given "gentleman" is engaged in earning himself a margin on ordinary people.
    1. CSKA 27 May 2020 17: 22 New
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      engaged in earning margins for ordinary people.

      And since when did Sberbank belong to Gref?
  • Prisoner 27 May 2020 16: 18 New
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    Fifteen years with confiscation. I think so, uh!
  • Motorhead 27 May 2020 16: 24 New
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    On ten, without the right of correspondence, just pulls people.
    1. AK1972 27 May 2020 16: 34 New
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      What a dozen? This whole company is not worthy even of a rope. Only on the count, preferably on the aspen
  • NF68 27 May 2020 16: 29 New
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    So he will tell the truth?
  • GMM
    GMM 27 May 2020 16: 29 New
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    Gref, Chubais, Kudrin, Mutko and many, many others - this is most likely a personnel error due to ignorance of Vladimir Vladimirovich.
    Yes, if he only knew how bad they were, then he would have spread them on the Kremlin wall.
    But he doesn’t know anything bad about them, they don’t do anything bad to him, they don’t offend him, they don’t pry money from him personally. And the leader, meanwhile, is simply busy with more important matters, our partners, Assad, Madura, Khfatar and others ...
  • IC
    IC 27 May 2020 16: 34 New
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    Companies operating directly in the Crimea are becoming the target of international sanctions. Sberbank customer cards may be blocked abroad. In addition, Sberbank owns banks under its brand in other countries.
    Gref is not an independent figure. All his actions are sanctioned by Putin.
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    In general, we must pay tribute to Gref, he is a wonderful organizer, radically transformed the work of Sberbank, we can say that Sberbank today and 10 years are two completely different banks.
    1. stariy 27 May 2020 16: 59 New
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      Gref, he's a great organizer,

      Himler, too, the SS organized remarkably and this did not make him a wonderful person, but they carry (in the sense they say) the same thing.
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        Himler, too, the SS organized remarkably and this did not make him a wonderful person, but they carry (in the sense they say) the same thing.

        You hike the complete lack of brain formation guilty of destroying hundreds of thousands of people to compare with an ordinary bank. And some kind of insane also put a plus sign.
        1. stariy 27 May 2020 17: 41 New
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          I did not say a word about the bank. I'm talking about the fact that they are both about education in Russia. what we better for them to be stupid
          1. CSKA 27 May 2020 18: 12 New
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            I did not say a word about the bank. I'm talking about the fact that they are both about education in Russia. what we better for them to be stupid

            Where and when did he say that?
            1. stariy 27 May 2020 18: 20 New
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              Where and when did he say that?

              In YouTube, a lot of videos with him, look, find, find a lot of useful things.
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                Quote: stariy
                In YouTube, a lot of videos with him, look, find, find a lot of useful things.

                He never said that, you distort. Take a close look at his interview.
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          Quote: CSKA

          You hike the complete lack of brain formation guilty of destroying hundreds of thousands of people to compare with an ordinary bank. And some kind of insane also put a plus sign.

          CSKA - there are a lot of caricatured to stereotypical characters, do not pay attention laughing
          1. CSKA 28 May 2020 11: 00 New
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            CSKA - there are a lot of caricatured to stereotypical characters, do not pay attention

            Still who are lovers to make a gag.
            1. Krasnodar 28 May 2020 12: 33 New
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              Why make up? During the squirrel, something else will fall laughing
      2. flicker 27 May 2020 19: 11 New
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        Himler too
        It was necessary to immediately compare with Hitler.
        but they bear (in the sense of saying) the same thing.

        Come on, can you give an example?
    2. Old Horseradish 27 May 2020 17: 05 New
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      Gref must be paid tribute to, he is a wonderful organizer, radically transformed the work of Sberbank, we can say that Sberbank today and 10 years are two completely different banks.

      It is very surprising that your opinion completely coincides with the opinion of the owners International Council of the American Bank JP Morgan Chase.
      Comrade, who do you work for?
      1. flicker 27 May 2020 19: 00 New
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        Comrade, who do you work for?
        Well, of course, on
        the owners of the international council of the American bank JP Morgan Chase
        laughing
        1. Old Horseradish 27 May 2020 23: 11 New
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          Well, of course, on the hosts of the international council of the American bank JP Morgan Chase

          For penny irony, you really confirm that you work for American financial ghouls. Well, write on their state financial sites. Why did you crawl out onto the Russian military review? There they praised their Kabbalist-Gref. And you will be full of American happiness. And here, all the same, people are rooting for Russia. For her people. Not for financial sharks from Wall Street. Something like that.
          1. flicker 28 May 2020 14: 02 New
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            First, not you, but you.
            Second, this is
            For penny irony, you really confirm that you work for American financial ghouls
            like a joke good if no kidding, then the clinic belay
            Work for American financials on the VO website! ... it's strong! This is really strong! good drinks
      2. Old Horseradish 28 May 2020 22: 37 New
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        After such words, he should at least be driven out of his post as the owner of Sberbank of Russia, and, in fact, send the case to court for such statements about the population.

        German Gref - cattle must be manipulated and Kabbalah to help us
    3. CSKA 27 May 2020 17: 23 New
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      In general, we must pay tribute to Gref, he is a wonderful organizer, radically transformed the work of Sberbank, we can say that Sberbank today and 10 years are two completely different banks.

      What are you writing? God forbid they learn this. The whole universe will collapse.
      1. flicker 27 May 2020 19: 16 New
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        The whole universe will collapse.
        Moreover, on their heads. fellow however, maybe she already ... collapsed laughing
        1. Krasnodar 27 May 2020 20: 10 New
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          And since birth ...
  • bandabas 27 May 2020 16: 38 New
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    Mr. Gref shouted about 3 months ago that the commission would not be charged for transfers within the Sberbank. Cheating! Yesterday I made a payment from the Murmansk region to St. Petersburg. Withdrew 1%. A trifle, but not nice. When do they get smoked?
  • smaug78 27 May 2020 16: 46 New
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    Gref is handsome and the strongest manager, and the authors write nonsense ....
    But what about those dividends to ordinary Sberbank depositors, who continue to impose loans at 15-20 percent per annum, keeping deposit rates at minimum levels? Our hard-earned people in Sberbank do not protect with any indexation, and do not even try to stimulate the public to extend and replenish these deposits.
    depends on the Central Bank rate, and not on Gref’s greed alone.
    Sberbank refuses Crimea

    RNKB is a financial organization operating in the Crimea. The service terminals of this bank are located at all points of the peninsula requiring presence. At the same time, the bank does not take a commission for cashing out funds, so you only have to pay a commission from Sberbank, which is 1% of the amount, and cannot be less than 100 rubles.
    GenBank, another bank active on the peninsula. ATMs are located in almost every locality and do not charge fees for withdrawing funds from Sberbank cards. The situation with the commission is exactly the same as in the previous example, that is, you only have to pay Sberbank for using a third-party device.
    Bank "Russia" has representative offices and ATMs in each resort city of the republic. He can also help with the issue of receiving cash.
    In any supermarket you can pay with a Sberbank card, because all operations are still carried out in Russia.
    Another stupid agitation ....
    1. CSKA 27 May 2020 17: 30 New
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      Another stupid agitation ....

      So the main thing is to say something about Gref, and there are already 20 comments without financial content, only the “traitor” screams and crazy pictures. This is the whole task.
      1. smaug78 27 May 2020 18: 18 New
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        That cheers patriot some stupid numbers, facts and logic are not needed. He replaces all this with a bang, which he waves with any occasion laughing laughing laughing
        1. CSKA 28 May 2020 12: 03 New
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          That cheers patriot some stupid numbers, facts and logic are not needed. He replaces all this with a bang, which he waves with any occasion

          No, you're wrong. For them, we are stupid cheers-patriots, kremleboty, fucked up, though with numbers, facts and logic, and they are enough for only two lines of bile.
      2. Old Horseradish 27 May 2020 18: 35 New
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        only yelling "traitor"

        Young man, not tired of protecting the world behind the scenes? How much do you pay for a comment? Is there anything to tighten pants? They clearly wrote to you that he was a protege of American oligarchic circles. Here, all the same, the Russian military review, and not the financial news of the American bank JP Morgan Chase.
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          Old hell, you don’t get tired of your hell just waving and making people laugh? Apart from the inscriptions on the fence, you have nothing ... but forgot, still an old hooray laughing laughing laughing
        2. CSKA 28 May 2020 12: 05 New
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          Young man, not tired of protecting the world behind the scenes? How much do you pay for a comment? Is there anything to tighten pants?

          Of course, grandpa. Personally, I have millions on the account, personally the Rothschilds and Rockefellers send.
          Quote: Old Horseradish
          They clearly wrote to you that he was a protege of American oligarchic circles.

          Which of you clowns what nonsense unproven wrote me little interest.
          Quote: Old Horseradish
          Here, all the same, the Russian military review, and not the financial news of the American bank JP Morgan Chase.

          So you write this to the author of the article.
    2. Kronos 27 May 2020 18: 52 New
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      Gref is one of the enemies of the people robbing the population of Russia
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        laughing
        Let me explain - how does Gref rob the population of Russia?
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          Let me explain - how does Gref rob the population of Russia?

          You are unlikely to hear the answer, just another set of unproven stamps.
  • reader65 27 May 2020 16: 53 New
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    But is it possible to shoot this Gref?
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      But is it possible to shoot this Gref?

      One-no, it’s pointless, but comrades ...
  • Old Horseradish 27 May 2020 17: 02 New
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    Actually, Gref is now watching Russia from the world government and the world oligarchy. So "whose bank is Russia?" - the question is essentially ridiculous. And all these moans and cries about "getting up from your knees" are designed for utter tricks. She is such a world behind the scenes.

    “Engaged in corruption scandals, the head of Rusnano Anatoly Chubais did not join the new composition of the international council of JP Morgan Chase. Sberbank’s head German Gref was invited to replace him.

    A few days ago it became known that the head of the Rusnano state corporation, who had been hit by security forces and mired in high-profile “laundering” scandals, Anatoly Chubais did not enter the new composition International Council of the American Bank JP Morgan Chase. At the same time, a holy place does not happen empty - a Russian citizen still found a place in the updated council: the head of Sberbank German Gref was elected as a new member of the advisory body to the world's largest bank and one of the most influential spokesmen for the Wall Street financial oligarchy. "
    1. Krasnodar 27 May 2020 20: 18 New
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      Gref is a reptiloid, and they are known to control the world behind the scenes. He was recruited by Tony Stark, through the mediation of Sheldon Cooper.
  • Rostislav 27 May 2020 17: 28 New
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    Tired of articles about these unsinkable invaders.
    Already no one hopes that the power will squeeze them, they themselves are the power. And the point of these accusatory articles revealing the structure of fraud?
    It’s too late to drink Borjomi after everyone together rushed to the future, where there will be 1000 varieties of sausages.
    "A fool doesn’t need a knife ..."
  • Radikal 27 May 2020 17: 48 New
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    Gref, Chubais, Kudrin, Mutko and many, many others - this is most likely a personnel error due to ignorance of Vladimir Vladimirovich.
    Yes, if he only knew how bad they were, then he would have spread them on the Kremlin wall.
    But he doesn’t know anything bad about them, they don’t do anything bad to him, they don’t offend him, they don’t pry money from him personally. And the leader, meanwhile, is simply busy with more important matters, our partners, Assad, Madura, Khfatar and others ...

    ... At night I will stand by the window
    And stand all night without sleep
    I'm worried about Rasea
    How is it, poor, is she?
    crying
  • samarin1969 27 May 2020 19: 30 New
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    Thanks to the authors. This is really interesting. The numbers are quite talking. The sizes of state are also interesting. support and the degree of its return.
    German Oskarovich loves publicity, a beautiful picture, play futurology "a la Gates".
    But there are facts of the opposite.
    1) Gref did not calculate political risks in Ukraine (in Turkey and Europe) and continued to pump liquidity with his “daughter” in “Independent”. Ukraine did not appreciate the "deflection". Boys beat offices, borrowers (including Poroshenko's enterprises) are in no hurry to return loans, courts and the NBU imposed sanctions, etc.
    2) Until 2014, Gref regularly flew to Ukraine, where he opened unjustifiably grandiose offices and gave loans to system enterprises. It was very beautiful, expensive "lordly." But in Ukraine, all serious business has long been crammed into its banks as part of industrial and financial groups. Oppose Privat and become a market leader, Sber could not. Sberbank just "used it."
    3) In the spring of 2014, an unpleasant surprise for Crimeans was the policy of the "native" Sberbank. Rubles were already in full swing, flags were hanging. And investors for months in lines were forced to beg the management for their contributions in parts of 2000 UAH.

    ps About banks with foreign capital in the Crimea did not hear. Dominated by the state. Genbank and RNKB structures. Since the time of Ukraine, the last two Crimean banks were the Black Sea Bank and the Sea Bank. Ms. Nabiullina has already covered up some small financial exotics like Baykalbank, Kraiinvestbank, etc. Some of the parent structures of these branches have already been covered in the framework of her well-known policy.
    1. Selevc 28 May 2020 07: 32 New
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      Until 2014, Gref regularly flew to Ukraine where he opened unreasonably grandiose offices and gave loans to system enterprises
      I think that Gref’s entire political career is continuous soap bubbles and window dressing ... He’s a master pompously throwing dust in his eyes - he’s a figure covering serious people who do everything quietly and don’t like to shine ..
  • smaug78 27 May 2020 20: 02 New
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    Gref did not calculate political risks in Ukraine (in Turkey and Europe) and continued to pump liquidity into his “daughter” in “Independent”. Ukraine did not appreciate the "deflection".

    Which Russian leadership is bad. It did not warn of a military operation to return the Crimea and such a reaction to the Maidan. But tell me, when did you see all the problems you described in Ukraine?
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      Quote: smaug78

      Which Russian leadership is bad. It did not warn of a military operation to return the Crimea and such a reaction to the Maidan. But tell me, when did you see all the problems you described in Ukraine?

      ??? ... At the beginning of 2014 it was possible to curtail / mothball the business. Or at least leave a few head offices. But active lending was not even curtailed !!! Gref naively believed that Ukraine was not in danger of being an honest tax payer ....
      ps As an employee of the rival Sberbank structure in Ukraine, he saw his problems sometime from the year 2010. Sberbank’s offices already did not correspond to the balance sheet volumes.
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        At the beginning of 2014, it was possible to curtail / mothball the business.
        But even GDP sanctions did not imply such a nightmare.
        As an employee of a competing Sberbank structure in Ukraine, he saw his problems sometime from the year 2010.
        Now everything is clear. That's only in Russia, in spite of you being so smart, to all banks before the savings ...
  • 1536 27 May 2020 22: 00 New
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    We are asked to trust the state. But how to do it if such a “leader” doesn’t put a penny on this state? Moreover, the state gave them everything, because they themselves are not able to create anything. It’s time to still meet people with the mind, and not by “clothes”.
  • frizzy 27 May 2020 22: 30 New
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    Who is Gref? “Parhaty” or “nemchura”? I’m just interested in my general development !!! Nothing personal current ......
    1. Selevc 28 May 2020 07: 29 New
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      Gref has long been in the Russian political show business ... He held various posts and talked a lot on camera - but when I listen to him, I always involuntarily say, "Myself on my mind ..." ... Whose Mr. Gref are you ?? ? Are you for white or red ??? Continuous haze - it is probably important for a politician to speak for years and no specifics !!!
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    Dear author, I visited Crimea in 2019 and used a Sberbank card, there were no additional commissions.
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    I wonder what will please the chairman of the board of shareholders of Sberbank following the results of 2019?

    That's just what interests the downshifter and Torah fan, all of his “sayings and revelations” are only for them. He doesn’t give a damn about the rest, to say the least.
  • Red Alert 28 May 2020 13: 23 New
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    He has no homeland ...

    Regular delusional pictures. Neither Kennedy nor Gref had such statements. Kennedy’s only mention of Soviet education was the Special Congressional Message on Education of January 29, 1963. And Gref didn’t say that about education.
    “It always surprises me when they say that we had a great school in the Soviet Union,” Gref said. - But at the same time a terrible economy and so on. The country fell apart. But if there was such a wonderful school, then what was everything else so bad?
    Well, about the fact that he is gay, did you check it yourself?))))) And then, as a person, he is already twice married and has three children.

    The anti-bourgeois bourgeois drove up The necessity of this program does not rest on the course of the cold war. Improvement in education is essential to our nation's development without respect to what others are doing. Nevertheless, it is worthwhile noting that the Soviet Union recognizes that educational effort in the 1960's will have a major effect on a nation's power, progress and status in the 1970's and 1980's. According to a recent report prepared for the National Science Foundation, Soviet institutions of higher education are graduating 3 times as many engineers and 4 times as many physicians as the United States. While trailing behind this country in aggregate annual numbers of higher education graduates, the Soviets are maintaining an annual flow of scientific and technical professional manpower more than twice as large as our own. At the same time, they have virtually eliminated illiteracy, with a 23-fold increase since the turn of the century in the proportion of persons with an education beyond the 7th grade. This nation's devotion to education is surely sufficient to excel the achievements of any other nation or system.
    The need for this program does not lie in the mainstream of the Cold War. Improving education is necessary for the development of our country, regardless of what others do. However, it is worth noting that the Soviet Union understands that educational efforts in the 1960s will greatly influence the strength, progress, and status of a nation in the 1970s and 1980s. According to a recent report prepared for the National Science Foundation, 3 times more engineers and 4 times more doctors graduate from Soviet higher education institutions than the United States. Lagging behind our country in the total annual number of graduates of higher educational institutions, the Soviets support an annual influx of scientific and technical personnel more than two times higher than ours. At the same time, they practically eliminated illiteracy: since the beginning of the century, the proportion of people with more than 7-year education has grown 23 times. The fascination of this nation with education is certainly enough to exceed the achievements of any other nation or system.
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      German Gref’s revelations remind me of an old program in which Tony Blair explained to a journalist about the British invasion of Iraq for about an hour. Blair beautifully and very tolerantly answered all questions of the journalist with phrases like "The sun is yellow and the grass is green ...", "Peace, Labor, May ...", "We are good and he is bad ..." and the like - the British politician managed to say for an entire hour about the war in the Gulf not to say anything specific at all !!! And most importantly, he did not name a single specific reason for the British invasion of Iraq !!! And of course he put Britain and the USA so white and fluffy "bunnies on tanks" !!!
      As Vysotsky once sang - "He broke all brains into pieces, all the convolutions weaved ..." - this is about Gref ...
  • Mudavius 28 May 2020 13: 50 New
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    Grefs, Chubais, etc. . Like pigeons, children are not visible but feed in Russia!
  • Stalnov I.P. 28 May 2020 14: 14 New
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    Sticks, lizoblyudov, nepotism type high sitters.
  • The Siberian barber 28 May 2020 14: 44 New
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    A person who advocates sigrification cannot be a patriot!
    A group of people who plunged the country into obscurantism and estates has long been clearly defined. This crime is worse than theft !!
  • rotkiv04 28 May 2020 19: 52 New
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    Gref is a bugger, and giving a hand to a bugger is to smear himself in his shit.
  • Pvi1206 29 May 2020 11: 25 New
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    education is ruled by a gref, and culture is ruled by a cord ... and the president has nothing to do with it ...
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    How is Gref different from Koch?
  • Carib 31 May 2020 09: 09 New
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    It has long been removed without allowance for compromising power. Well, look carefully, because somewhere I had to break the laws ... What would the rest not have been accustomed to.
  • tank64rus 31 May 2020 19: 57 New
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    This is treason to Russia, but for Gref this is just this country.
  • tank64rus 1 June 2020 10: 22 New
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    9 grams they cost.