An interview with a militant from Idlib, flown through Turkey to Libya, was published in the British press.

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An interview with a militant from Idlib, flown through Turkey to Libya, was published in the British press.

The Libyan National Army, commanded by Marshal Khalifa Haftar, announced another downed Turkish drone. It is alleged that the Bayraktar UAV was shot down southwest of Tripoli during an attempt to launch another strike on LNA positions.

Reports say that a downed drone needs to be repaired. He was sent to the east of the country, where military trophies, including strike UAVs of Turkish manufacture, are being collected for study.



However, there is no data on what weapons the LNA shot down Bayraktar TB2.

Against this background, the Libyan House of Representatives (Parliament), sitting in Tobruk and loyal to the forces of Khalifa Haftar, notes the reluctance of Tripoli representatives to negotiate a political solution. It is noted that this is facilitated by the intervention of Turkey, which intends to achieve satisfaction of its own interests in Libya. The House of Representatives notes that the crisis, as the events of recent years have shown, cannot be solved without the consolidation of Libyan society and Libyan political forces.

Meanwhile, the Western edition of The Guardian published an article by correspondent Bethan McKernan. The article provides an interview with a 22-year-old young man who had previously moved to Turkey from Syrian Idlib. According to him, he was offered "military service."

From the interview:

I was told that I would serve in support units or a medical service for good money. But in the end I became a member of the hostilities.

Interlocutor Betan McKernan said that he was transferred by plane to Libya.

From an article in a British newspaper:

Some Syrians came here for money, some say they support the Libyans against tyranny. But personally, I don’t know why Turkey asked the Syrian opposition to fight in Libya. I did not know anything about this country, except for the revolution against Gaddafi.

The name of the militant transferred to Libya from Turkey is called. This is Wael Amr. The Guardian says that, such as Amr, Turkey has already transferred up to 10 thousand to Libya. It is noted that they were transferred to northern Africa under the promise of a generous reward. No specific amounts have yet been reported.
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  1. 0
    26 May 2020 08: 21
    For reference, the cost of one Bayraktar TB2 is about 5 million evergreens.
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      1. -40
        26 May 2020 08: 55
        Quote: Kat
        devils are transferred from Syria to Libya, but we will wet them there by all means ..

        PMC Wagner withdrew from Libya! "Geese" fly away when the money gets bad. And the State Department's Khavtor will face the fate of Gaddafi hi
        1. Cat
          +4
          26 May 2020 09: 07
          Quote: fif21
          PMC Wagner withdrew from Libya! "Geese" fly away when the money gets bad

          Oh well ...))))
          Quote: fif21
          A State Department Havtor awaits the fate of Gaddafi

          Strange expression, did not notice?
          So Haftar is doing everything right!
          1. -29
            26 May 2020 09: 24
            Quote: Kat
            Oh well ...))))

            And what do you want? What would I write that 1600 soldiers of the Wagner PMC were urgently transferred to Donbass by order of the Supreme Commander? I cannot write this, since it is a terrible military secret! lol
            Quote: Kat
            Strange expression, did not notice?
            So Haftar is doing everything right!

            Russia does not fight Turkey! And to climb into a showdown between the Turks and the Egyptians will not. Havtor has a mattress education, and what he does is not in the interests of Libya, but in the interests of third countries. hi
            1. +6
              26 May 2020 12: 18
              Quote: fif21
              Havtor has a mattress education, and what he does is not in the interests of Libya, but in the interests of third countries.

              You're lying too primitive - Haftar studied in the USSR: in 1977-1978. he graduated from the higher officer courses “Shot”, and in 1983 he was a student of courses at the MV Frunze Academy and, like many Arab senior officers of that time, knows Russian [4].
              1. +1
                26 May 2020 15: 06
                Quote: ccsr
                You're lying too primitively - Haftar studied in the USSR: in 1977-1978. he graduated from the senior officer courses "Shot"

                So, what is next? What Wiki Says In 1988, he established contacts with the Libyan National Salvation Front, an opposition organization based in Chad. Shortly after this, Haftar was released from prison. After the termination of relations with the regime of Gaddafi, Haftar could have [when?] His own armed forces created with funds from the CIA [5] [6]. He was planning an invasion of Libya, but Gaddafi preempted him, staging a coup in Chad [when?]. The CIA had to evacuate the general and 350 supporters to Zaire, then to Kenya, and finally to the United States. Some sources report his links with the CIA [7] [clarify].

                In the 1990s Haftar received American citizenship and settled in Vienne, Virginia [6] and lived there for 20 years [8]. For a while, he collaborated with the CIA and the Liberation Salvation Front, developing a conspiracy to overthrow Gaddafi. In 1996, Haftar attempted to lead a rebellion in the mountains of southern Libya, but it failed [9]; part of the people was captured and executed.

                After the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, Gaddafi, before being one of America’s most fierce enemies, agreed to abandon the nuclear weapons program and took steps toward rapprochement with Washington. The CIA lost interest in Haftar [1 Learn the story, and then glue the tags. hi
                1. +3
                  26 May 2020 18: 32
                  Quote: fif21
                  So, what is next?

                  At least the fact that you lied about his studies in the USA - this already speaks about everything.
                  Quote: fif21
                  He planned an invasion of Libya, but Gaddafi preempted him, staging a coup in Chad

                  And what follows from this - he only fought for power, this is not new to Africa.
                  Quote: fif21
                  After the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, Gaddafi, before being one of America’s most fierce enemies, agreed to abandon his nuclear weapons program and took steps toward rapprochement with Washington.

                  So why did the US allow it to be overthrown? Maybe you should not fantasize - what for nuclear weapons in Libya, have you ever been there at least once in the days of Gaddafi?
                  Quote: fif21
                  The CIA lost interest in Haftar [1 Learn History,

                  The CIA agent told you this - do not be shy, tell him his name ...
                  1. 0
                    26 May 2020 21: 55
                    Quote: ccsr
                    The CIA agent told you this - do not be shy, tell him his name ...

                    laughing fool You need to be treated, my friend! The havtor lived in the USA for 20 years, but received a military education in the USSR. He was used by the CIA in countering Gaddafi. Now he again became needed and received funding, weapons, a soldier - maybe you know from whom? wassat Information from open sources is called Wikipedia. hi
                    1. +2
                      27 May 2020 11: 17
                      Quote: fif21
                      He has lived in the USA for 20 years.

                      Solzhenitsyn also lived there no less, but returned to Russia and began to vilify their democracy. Yes, and Bin Laden, too, was trained by the Americans, and then he killed them all over the world. So this is not an indicator for people of this level - you hardly know their motivation from Wikipedia - burn further, "expert" of human souls.
                      1. -3
                        27 May 2020 12: 28
                        Quote: ccsr
                        burn further, "expert" of human souls.

                        Share with me what you know, for that I am grateful! And you offer me a soul - why the hell is your soul! hi
              2. +2
                26 May 2020 22: 29
                It looks like Svidomo is right here. In the interests of third countries. And what kind of countries are these - I recommend typing "Yuri Podolyak" in a YouTube search engine. A very adequate surveyor. And today he has a video about Libya. Very convincing.
              3. 0
                27 May 2020 12: 25
                True, then he lived for 20+ years in the USA, had American citizenship and collaborated with the CIA. And Nasser was a hero of the Soviet Union.
            2. 0
              26 May 2020 22: 24
              And why in the Donbass PMC? There, after all, for more than 5 years, the centurion Mykola has been killing 100500 Buryat horsemen of the regular Russian army every day and undermining 250-300 armatures each?
          2. 0
            26 May 2020 16: 08
            Quote: Kat
            So Haftar is doing everything right!

            hi
            Not only Hawtor, but also Egypt:
        2. -5
          26 May 2020 09: 49
          We didn’t get out and moved to another city.
          1. -11
            26 May 2020 10: 21
            Have you moved ??? laughing And why do they change residence permits so often? wink Your nickname motivates them, maybe they will break through request
        3. +3
          26 May 2020 10: 57
          Quote: fif21
          PMC Wagner left Libya!

          The first who died in this war is the truth ... like everywhere else.
        4. +5
          26 May 2020 14: 25
          Quote: fif21
          PMC Wagner left Libya!

          These stories about PMCs Wagner, Beethoven and Mozart in Libya, Syria, etc. are already tired. Come up with something new. And then you have some kind of lousy PMC in terms of mobility, efficiency, strength and impact on the situation, 99% of the world's special forces jumped. Only the equally mythical Ukrainian special forces continue to deter hundreds of billions of Wagner PMC fighters in Ukraine
        5. -1
          27 May 2020 17: 54
          And you probably stood on the platform and waved a handkerchief, seeing off the Wagnerites ?? With tears of tenderness?
    2. +2
      26 May 2020 09: 16
      Not a fact.
      Ukram - Management System +6 Bayraktarov + 200 TSA sold for 69 million bucks ....
    3. LEK
      0
      27 May 2020 06: 42
      price 5 pl?))
      This it can cost if it includes the entire cost of R&D))
      And so, the aircraft itself costs no more than 500 tons of green, if we take into account only the cost of components and labor costs without including the rate of return))
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  3. +3
    26 May 2020 08: 27
    It did not work to ignite Syria, now Libya will be spud.
    The goal of world capital is the same - to set fire to the entire Middle East. Syria was simply much more profitable at the time.
    1. -18
      26 May 2020 08: 56
      Quote: Kuroneko
      The goal of world capital is the same - to set fire to the entire Middle East.

      Russia is also a capitalist country! So her goal is the same !? tongue
      1. +5
        26 May 2020 08: 59
        Quote: fif21
        Russia is also a capitalist country!

        Capitalist is not a country Russia, and her bloodsuckers-iltyk (they don’t pull for more, because spiritually - the slaves of real Western Bloodsuckers with a BIG letter). Distinguish between!
        Well, thanks again to the old bastard Mishka-Marked for this "transformation" ...
        Honestly, when this scum dies, I will get drunk in junk from joy. I will celebrate this day every year as a personal holiday.
        1. -16
          26 May 2020 09: 02
          Quote: Kuroneko
          The capitalist is not a country, but its bloodsuckers

          laughing You have a peculiar interpretation of reality wassat Thanks for the humor! hi
          1. +2
            26 May 2020 09: 06
            Quote: fif21
            Thanks for the humor!

            Thanks for his understanding too.
            There are sometimes problems with this.
            Although in my humor, offensively there is too much truth.
            To the offensive.
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          1. -10
            26 May 2020 09: 28
            Quote: Kat
            I'll get drunk myself (many in the former USSR)

            And is that all you can do? what
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            2. 0
              26 May 2020 09: 50
              Quote: fif21
              And is that all you can do?

              Well, personally, I will then put on a ushanka, take a balalayka in my hands and ride my personal chain medved to capture the English Channel (alas, I am too stupid to capture the British Isles, I will capture the English Channel ... although the bourgeoisie went to meet me, and there is already an underwater highway under the English Channel. So I will seize it).
              1. 0
                26 May 2020 10: 29
                Quote: Kuroneko
                Well, personally, I will then put on a ushanka, pick up a balalayka and go on a personal chain medved to capture the English Channel

                laughing Approve! A worthy goal! I began to fear that Kat had decided to seize my factory producing Russisch vodka (moonshine still!) drinks
                1. +3
                  26 May 2020 10: 36
                  Quote: fif21
                  Quote: Kuroneko
                  Well, personally, I will then put on a ushanka, pick up a balalayka and go on a personal chain medved to capture the English Channel

                  laughing Approve! A worthy goal! I began to fear that Kat had decided to seize my factory producing Russisch vodka (moonshine still!) drinks

                  Laughter, laughter, and not so long ago (well, like ... back in the twentieth century), the Poles tried to stake out the brand "vodka" for themselves.
                  But thanks to ours, I’m not afraid of these words, TITAN of the history of alcoholic beverages to William Pokhlebkin - very good. I recommend his books, very interesting ... Poles once again worn out.
                  Vodka - it still turned out to be OUR (although we drink it in much smaller quantities than are carefully planted by Western media - here the Baltic states generally come first!).
        3. +3
          26 May 2020 10: 23
          Quote: Kuroneko
          The capitalist one is not the country of Russia, but its bloodsuckers-iliks (they don’t pull on more, because spiritually - the slaves of the real Western Bloodsuckers with a BIG letter). Distinguish between!

          Distinguish not distinguish, but the whole industry, banks, are with the capitalists, and the people live on their own on small handouts from the capitalists. Russia has only one Russian thing left - the People’s Spirit.
        4. LEK
          0
          27 May 2020 06: 46
          if the country is governed by capitalists, then the country's goals are capitalist))
          Russia is the same country as the states. No different.
  4. -4
    26 May 2020 08: 42
    Meanwhile, the Western edition of The Guardian published an article by correspondent Bethan McKernan.

    -A new newspaper can speak only with Buryats in a Donetsk hospital - apparently in the "Bureysk language".
    Afraid of Latynin?
    NovG is not the world media, small town
  5. +5
    26 May 2020 08: 46

    Bayraktary. Cheaper than human life.
    1. +2
      26 May 2020 08: 53

      And here you can see how the team works. On June 14, 2019, a team of young engineers from Turkey (Bayraktar BPL Team) received a new task. In this video you can see how the team for 175 days worked on the project "Akinji - attacking the submarine", for reconnaissance, tracking, destruction - an independent, national technology in heaven, where the interests of Turkey will be protected from the enemy. Experts from various fields of technology worked together on this project. The car made its first takeoff on 07.12.2019.
    2. +7
      26 May 2020 08: 58
      Bayraktary. Cheaper than human life.

      yourself not funny?
      From the point of view of military UAVs for narrow tasks, it is preferable for the following reasons:
      1. The cost of a light aircraft (TB2 - $ 5 million) is not comparable with the cost of a combat aircraft (F-16D Block 52 - $ 35 million)
      2. Crew / pilot training costs ~ $ 5 million and this money can be lost in the event of severe injuries / pilot death during aircraft destruction. The cost of training the UAV operator is ~ 200 thousand $ / and it can be lost only due to exacerbation of hemorrhoids from long sitting.
      Pure pragmatism. So there is no need here about the "philanthropy" of the military, and especially the Turkish
      1. -10
        26 May 2020 10: 38
        Feel for the goose grill! Bad Bayraktars, crooked-handed operators and generally worthless Turkish army, AND WHAT? And do not forget to show at least one of the things that rivets in the backyard, similar to these bayraktars. Ehspert laughing
        1. +5
          26 May 2020 10: 45
          Feel for the goose grill! Bad Bayraktars, crooked-handed operators and generally worthless Turkish army, AND WHAT? And do not forget to show at least one of the things that rivets in the backyard, similar to these bayraktars. Ehspert laughing

          guardians of Turkish UAVs from sunny Azerbaijan, did they explain to you that it is not proper to "poke" the interlocutor? Or don't you squeeze the tomato-trading mentality out of yourself? Maybe point out where I wrote about "crooked operators", "" bad Bayraktars "? I just wrote about the cost, and everything else is just your irrepressible incontinence. Do you want to argue with the indicated cost?
    3. -3
      26 May 2020 10: 28
      Quote: raki-uzo
      Bayraktary. Cheaper than human life.

      How much do you value human life? By the amount of healthy organs?
      I'm really curious.
      1. +2
        26 May 2020 10: 35
        For comparison, I will give an example: the flag, the motherland, the independence of our people is more valuable than human life.
        1. -1
          26 May 2020 10: 39
          the independence of our people is more precious than human life.

          big words, unfortunately. There are more people who want to sell their independence now than those who are ready to buy it.
        2. -3
          26 May 2020 10: 40
          Quote: raki-uzo
          independence of our people

          And the dependence of the people historically independent of you?
          I focus on historically, surely.
          It didn’t work with Bulgaria.
  6. +3
    26 May 2020 08: 46
    And by the way, about the recent news on VO: https://topwar.ru/171505-sily-pns-livii-po-obnaruzhennym-u-pogibshego-k-jugu-ot-tripoli-banknotam-rf-my-sdelali-vyvod -on-russkij.html
    Tell me honestly - who among you, in your right mind and firm memory, while still being a mercenary (and they always go along the fine line of law and legality - there are still no uniform legal norms) ... So, who would of you fighting in LibyaI would keep in my pocket about two hundred and sixty "wooden" ones? Maybe not in my pocket, this is me figuratively. It’s just - ridiculous (there would be 50-100 people and a big guy - I could still believe). Not to mention the fact that I personally held the top ten for the last time in my hands 5 months ago (and I live in Mukhosransk, albeit a millionaire). And yes, that "tweet" that I got almost half a year ago was far from fresh, unlike that almost "zero" piece of paper that could be seen in the photo.
    Explicit setup, kmk.
    Those. the scenario already planned by some cunning uncle to draw Russia (in the eyes of the world community) into the Libyan conflict according to the glands.
    The 15 "Pantsirey" "destroyed" by the gallant Turkish drones also hint at this (where are the Jews, Turkey STRONK!).
    1. -5
      26 May 2020 09: 16
      would keep in my pocket a piece of two hundred and sixty "wooden


      Just a grain - it would be a setup. His ATM was fed or left for safekeeping somewhere in Syria / Rostov / Moscow.

      Residual money. They are not on the black Aurus taken out of the house and brought home. If this is PMCs (and not only PMCs, but contract soldiers who are given a short vacation before a business trip), then they are going to the track at home, with any swag allowed, then they get to the assembly point by public transport / taxi / car. They still marinate for a day or two, eating in the nearest shawarma or dry meals. Then they end up in a location where you also want to have some delicious snacks with a chip for money. You can sit there for a month, depending on when the flight is approved.

      All this requires expenditures - pocket money. Which he suddenly found himself in the wallet. Do not throw away. Especially on the way back, there you can buy a soup in the airport canteen or your native shavuha on the way to the location. Well, to Libya 120 dollars, by type to buy something quickly or get there. It is quite logical. The remaining money is either in the account or in custody.

      Especially now, when a bunch of photo-video equipment with white people and locations with the Libyan Cyrillic alphabet.
      1. -6
        26 May 2020 09: 19
        Well, suppose (I will not even paint what I disagree on - it doesn't matter now). But that "tweet" crosses out the entire version. I wrote above why.
        And a separate pig - why not a little thing? Russian coins would be no less "proof", ne? And for some reason, neither dimes, nor a dozen were presented. A ruble with a design from Artemy Tatianovich would be especially convincing:
        1. -3
          26 May 2020 09: 26
          Trifle why? They keep it at their disposal, even in Russia (and if the rules are not strict, then this is a shortage for night casinos). She is heavy. It rings (and for this they can also break through the breast). Nobody takes a trifle anywhere. Especially in Libya.

          Ten - like a talisman. I repeat, a bunch of all kinds of photos already. Sense cling to imaginative jambs and screaming Qatari scenery. For example, for today’s Baikatar LNA, there are no proofs (those given by tweeter fighters, April’s in general) do not - but they shot down and no one asks questions. wink




          1. -3
            26 May 2020 09: 39
            Quote: donavi49
            Trifle why? They keep it at their disposal, even in Russia (and if the rules are not strict, then this is a shortage for night casinos). She is heavy.

            Of course, to ask why there is the ONLY modest "dirty green piece of paper" in this hit parade of domestic bills (c) Zhirik - also bad manners. Apparently, and she is a talisman. = _ = Well, or everything in the army "casino" almost to the thread pulled down. Just a very logical neighborhood.
            Well, OK.
            Perhaps we really have (had, rest in peace, if you were at all, dude) dealing with a large original-PMC.
            Let's stop on this for now. Yes, in principle, you are saying everything correctly - it MAY be, but personally, something in my brain doesn’t agree, and it’s serious time to dig and dig info on this issue, with more or less if not DOT, then DOT bunker facts I have.
            I’ll just express my position once again: something EXPLICIT somewhere does not converge.
            As well as the destroyed 15 "Shells" by the tourist pilots (9, emnip, even during the day?), With only 6 once delivered to someone. Sorry, turcoBESSpilots.
          2. +2
            26 May 2020 09: 55
            It is useless to prove.
            It is best to do an experiment:
            Take your work clothes, jacket, hiking backpack and dump ALL of the pockets and compartments on the table!
            I am sure you will be very surprised how much junk is drawn there. None of Sherlock Holmes can explain why you (as an example) last year's bus ticket, 10 nut, jammed receipt from the store, candy wrapper, pencil stub and more necessary items!
            But couch experts will confidently declare that they WON'T GO on a hike with these things!
            1. -7
              26 May 2020 10: 09
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              I am sure you will be very surprised how much junk is drawn there.

              Almost zero paper tweet? There is no way.
              Well, maybe I judge by myself. But I proceed from realities. = _ =
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        1. +2
          26 May 2020 09: 57
          Quote: Break through
          Aren't you tired of licking turks every day and posting the same pictures?

          For a line of successful trolling on significant portals, emnip, previously given 15 cents to the authors (of course, after confirmation by screenshots of pages). But these are old prices, and I was not going to find out new ones.

          By the way, (almost) Turkish pictures I can post and I, nya!

          1. +2
            26 May 2020 10: 42
            "Shield of Euphrates", "Olive Branch", "Source of Peace", "Spring Shield" and all sorts of small operations between them ... There were losses, there were good luck. Turkey did not allow the United States to create a Kurdish state and played an important role in the destruction of ISIS (prohibited everywhere!).
        2. -2
          26 May 2020 10: 25
          Morgan and Ural today's photos, or rather night wink


          Another KamazPantsir goes with a working radar. At least they learned something.


          On the other hand, satellite photos of al-Hadim appeared with protruding noses and tails of the Su-24 from quick-mounted canopies.


          The Italians replaced their frigate type, which only drown refugees with, with Horizon. Now, in theory, he can give himself TsU / information to Turkish type F frigates, which are much sadder with radar.

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          2. 5-9
            +1
            26 May 2020 10: 33
            Italian frigate Turkish TsU ???? And is it nothing that Italians and Turks are somehow from different sides in the conflict in Libya? Unless TsU will be on them :)))
            1. +4
              26 May 2020 10: 58
              Italians and Turks in Libya on the one hand.
            2. +2
              26 May 2020 11: 01
              Italy for Tripolentans always. Haftar even shot down an Italian UAV. You are confusing with France, that’s for Haftar. wink

              LNA reported the downed Italian UAV, helping bandits PNS Libya
              Libyan National Army (LNA) under the leadership of Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar was shot down by an Italian unmanned aerial vehicle MQ-1 manufactured in the USA. This happened north of the city of Tarhun.
              1. +1
                26 May 2020 11: 07
                Quote: donavi49
                The Libyan National Army (LNA), led by Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar, shot down an Italian unmanned aerial vehicle MQ-1 manufactured in the USA. This happened north of the city of Tarhun.

                Started !!!! Hold on to Haftar .. Soon, aviation will begin to peck illegally!
      3. -3
        26 May 2020 10: 44
        One marauder wrote on his loot box "Don't touch yours" Yes
  7. +1
    26 May 2020 08: 50
    Another recruited by the British media
  8. +2
    26 May 2020 08: 59
    with a 22-year-old young man who had previously moved to Turkey from Syrian Idlib
    Turkey has plenty of such a resource
    I was told that I would serve in support units or a medical service for good money. But in the end I became a member of the hostilities.
    Just an angel in the flesh who just wanted to serve on an alternative basis
    Some Syrians came here for money, some say they support the Libyans against tyranny. But personally, I don’t know why Turkey asked the Syrian opposition to fight in Libya.
    I don’t know what I’m doing here, I’m just a pawn in the wrong hands ... Well, such a cherub and a child of war are so direct, there’s a tear already ... I have seen such naive boys with a thin, but already bearded - brains are broken off, in words complete fanaticism, in willingness to cut eyes ... And the Guardian readers probably sympathize ..........
    1. +2
      26 May 2020 10: 37
      they were transferred to northern Africa under the promise of a generous reward. No specific amounts have yet been reported.

      Meat for the fight. Anyone who dies, they will all the same be charged, the survivors will be paid in fake dollars and forgotten.
      1. +2
        26 May 2020 13: 01
        Why, they won’t spend even fake ones, they’ll rather dispose of everything ...
  9. -7
    26 May 2020 10: 24
    Quote: Kat
    and I hope this scum in hell will burn with EBN

    God loves the trinity!
  10. -6
    26 May 2020 10: 31
    Quote: Kat
    Quote: fif21
    Quote: Kat
    I'll get drunk myself (many in the former USSR)

    And is that all you can do? what

    So far, but I can shoot (accurately) and my hand will not flinch for my children and grandchildren .. If I have to! soldier

    I wish good health and a bright future to your grandchildren and children. I hope you understand that shooting for them in Syria and Libya is not worth it.
    1. -1
      26 May 2020 10: 49
      Quote: KURT330
      I hope you understand that shooting for them in Syria and Libya is not worth it.

      If not there, then after 8-10 years I will have to dig in and shoot in my native Chelyabinsk (and I have over 20 cats that I cherish and which I will not abandon - I will die with them in the trench).
      And yes, about Libya - to the office. statements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, far-reaching conclusions should not be drawn. There, the Turks are already destroying the "Pantsir" with might and main, almost triple the size of those available purely theoretically. = _ = '
      Apparently, as in the Great Patriotic War (than our army, alas, sometimes sinned): any self-propelled gun with a wheelhouse - Ferdinand, any pazik-4N - tigur.
      They are on the right track. Shooting ordinary trucks.
      1. -5
        26 May 2020 10: 53
        Quote: Kuroneko
        If not there, then after 8-10 years I will have to dig in and shoot in my native Chelyabinsk

        That is, the end justifies the means ?!)) And therefore it is necessary to bomb the Syrian and Libyan children. Not that in 8-10 years they will grow up and go to shoot in Chelyabinsk. Did I understand you correctly?
        1. +1
          26 May 2020 10: 54
          Quote: KURT330
          Syrian and Libyan children

          # they are children, you again? = _ =
          The training manual has been propagandized a bit, read and confirm new theses.
          I will even offer my know-how!
          # onies
          What is not a reason to bang on the Syrian and children and cats "Tomahawks"? And to the excavators.
        2. 0
          26 May 2020 11: 08
          Quote: KURT330
          That is, the end justifies the means ?!))

          By the way, yes, I forgot to answer this flagrant hypocrisy ...
          Kurds century after century who spread rot for the most I do not want? Do you have exactly the means the tool doesn’t justify or is it WRONG?
          I note (ONCE AGAIN) that Assad - the head of Syria - SAM called Russia into it. And what the United States and Turkey are doing there (by the way, how are your sanatoriums there for the barmalei? Do they approve?) - it’s not clear at all. But of course, because the UN is from a truly global and strongly very once something minimally decisive body - very, very, very minimal - generally turned into a farce and into the theater of one puppeteer!
          And ... did the Kurds call you? Just interested.
          Okay, the USA threw them, they almost always do that ... But you shouldn’t pretend to be a sheep (Turkey wants to revive the sultanate, Russia doesn’t need revanchism, because it’s already great and self-sufficient).
  11. +2
    26 May 2020 12: 42
    It is noted that they were transferred to northern Africa under the promise of a generous reward.


    Turks rod cannon fodder without understanding ...
  12. 0
    26 May 2020 12: 53
    Quote: Kuroneko
    It did not work to ignite Syria, now Libya will be spud.
    The goal of world capital is the same - to set fire to the entire Middle East. Syria was simply much more profitable at the time.

    Do you think they didn’t set Syria on fire? If what is going on there is not to set fire to, then I do not know what will happen to Libya.
    1. -2
      26 May 2020 16: 11
      Yes, I believe that they did NOT set it on fire. You forget the most recent history (well, although for many nowadays, events of only 5-6 years are hard to mention = _ =). On the agenda then, in general, was the creation of a caliphate of radical scumbags. A whole state of scumbags!
  13. -5
    26 May 2020 13: 12
    Quote: Kuroneko
    Quote: KURT330
    That is, the end justifies the means ?!))

    By the way, yes, I forgot to answer this flagrant hypocrisy ...
    Kurds century after century who spread rot for the most I do not want? Do you have exactly the means the tool doesn’t justify or is it WRONG?
    I note (ONCE AGAIN) that Assad - the head of Syria - SAM called Russia into it. And what the United States and Turkey are doing there (by the way, how are your sanatoriums there for the barmalei? Do they approve?) - it’s not clear at all. But of course, because the UN is from a truly global and strongly very once something minimally decisive body - very, very, very minimal - generally turned into a farce and into the theater of one puppeteer!
    And ... did the Kurds call you? Just interested.
    Okay, the USA threw them, they almost always do that ... But you shouldn’t pretend to be a sheep (Turkey wants to revive the sultanate, Russia doesn’t need revanchism, because it’s already great and self-sufficient).

    Assad is not the head of Syria and his Syrian people do not perceive as a leader. He is a corrupt and stubborn type. And about the Kurds, I just found it funny reading you. Unfortunately, many participants are completely unaware of the information, history and facts about the Turkish-Kurdish issue. Let me remind you that it was in Moscow that the PKK terrorist organization was created with the mediation of Primakov. And most importantly, the Kurds of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Turkey and the post-Soviet space are soooo different from each other in mentality, customs, language (!), Religion (!), Everyday life, and way of life! Tighten the materiel, and then continue.
    1. 0
      26 May 2020 13: 19
      Assad is not the head of Syria and his Syrian people do not perceive as a leader.

      May be so. But this is not a reason to set fire to the country. In any case, this should be decided by the people of Syria.
      PKK terrorist organization was created in Moscow

      Similarly, Chechen terrorists were not terrorists for Turkey.
    2. 0
      26 May 2020 16: 14
      Quote: KURT330
      Let me remind you that it was in Moscow that the PKK terrorist organization was created with the mediation of Primakov.

      What a twist! Maybe Primakov also gave birth to Kurds, pretty strained? There wasn’t, they weren’t all over the world (and essno, EXCLUSIVELY loving Turkish) history - and figax! Evil Moscow has cheated.
      And yes, here is the main question of the Turks: "What about us?".
      I'm not talking about the program with which Erdogan once came to power - "Zero problems with neighbors." It has long turned into "Zero neighbors without problems."
    3. -2
      26 May 2020 19: 20
      Quote: KURT330
      And about the Kurds, I just found it funny reading you. Unfortunately, many participants are completely unaware of the information, history and facts about the Turkish-Kurdish issue. Let me remind you that it was in Moscow that the PKK terrorist organization was created with the mediation of Primakov. And most importantly, the Kurds of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Turkey and the post-Soviet space are soooo different from each other in mentality, customs, language (!), Religion (!), Everyday life, and way of life! Tighten the materiel, and then continue.

      It will be funny when the Kurds wring out a piece of Turkey and create their own state. And don’t need me about the materiel. For the example of Azerbaijan, Armenia, Karabakh has long been not funny. wink
  14. -6
    26 May 2020 13: 24
    Quote: glory1974
    Similarly, Chechen terrorists were not terrorists for Turkey

    And not only for Turkey!
    Terrorists are not beaten at the city market "Grad".
    Who burned out the Afghan and Chechen settlements with napalm and MLRS?
    Let's remember, not everything is as perfect as you think.
    1. +3
      26 May 2020 18: 38
      Quote: KURT330
      Afghan and Chechen settlements who burned napalm

      You are lying, a swindler - there was no napalm in the arsenal of the SA, so leave this tale for the insane.
  15. -1
    26 May 2020 22: 10
    Quote: KURT330

    Who burned out the Afghan and Chechen settlements with napalm and MLRS?

    The Americans of the Vietnamese burned with napalm, all insults to them.

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