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Rustic feuilleton. How grandmother will electronically vote

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I live in an ecologically clean place. In the mornings I sniff at what the village herd had scribbled on the street while it was gathering and moving out to the pasture. Or, if the wind is on the other hand, sniffing at a neighboring pigsty. I meet our sun, wild, free, and not urban, refined.


Do you think this does not happen? I'm talking about the sun. And you look in the evening where your sun goes to sleep after work. Urban, it's lazy. In the morning I got out of the apartment, and shines for myself. No worries. Neither you grow potatoes in the garden, nor you help the fishermen to drive away the frost in the morning. And ours will come out from behind the forest, overlook the surroundings and come on. There’s a cloud, here the wind, there to warm the sprouts of cucumber-tomatoes, here the boys to warm the water near the "bunny". That's how we live. Environmentally friendly.

We even have a different weather than the TV. You sometimes look out of the corner of the forecast in Moscow or there in St. Petersburg and wonder how people live there. In winter, they have snow for their happiness to see. In summer, warmth is also for happiness. Although it is understandable. Environmentally dirty place. We won yesterday the sun gave out 33-35 degrees. Because as soon as summer is with us, I know that for sure. I myself tear off the man on the wall of the kitchen every day.

I recently learned here that we will now vote in a new way. In an electronic way. Directly by phone or there on this, on a computer. You sit, it means, on the mound, with the peasants you talk about this and that. And then suddenly I wanted to ... In the sense of voting. You get this same mobile, and time. You have fulfilled a civic duty. I chose someone somewhere.

No, of course, I understand that there is no arguing against progress. Here we are guys chasing scooters from a hill. As I remember now, a locksmith Uncle Vasya did a scooter for us. On bearings. Oh, and he drove with us from a hill! How many knees and noses were cracked then. It was fun. And recently, the grandson rolled to the neighbor from the city. To quarantine. Also with a scooter. Only on it, even a foot does not need to be repelled. Electric of some kind. I got on him and went. Boredom for our boys.

And the desire of our leaders to optimize these elections is understandable. Previously, during the Soviet era, elections were a holiday. At the village council, the flag was changed to a new one. In the morning, the secretary Zoyka turned on the radio so that the artists from all over the village would sing different songs in the village. Yes, a car shop came from the district with goods. I remember our parents dressed up in formal suits. We boys sat behind fences and examined the iconostases on the chest of our village men.

And my grandmother became kind of weak. Sits in a hut. The table will cover, bake pies and wait. It seems like she earned honor and respect. And what do you think, this Zoyka came to her, a school teacher and our bookkeeper. With an urn. They will sit at the table, try grandmother’s pies, liqueurs there or something else. The grandmother will be given this very ballot and she, like a queen, will vote alone in the ballot box.

Then, when our chairman became the head, and our village was a rural settlement, either the radiol broke, or a car shop in the area, but there was no holiday. You come to school, greeted the people, took this very bulletin, put a cross - and go home. And some boys began to come to the grandmother: come on, they say, faster, we still have to go through a few "antiquities". Perhaps it was from such disrespect that the grandmother left for another world.

And recently, with the elections in general, we had a complete tear. We, from old memory or in the hope that the car shop in the area was repaired, went to the polls. And the youth spat in unison and fishing, on this, like him, on a picnic. Bake potatoes in a fire. And our chairman runs around the village. He needs interest. Otherwise, they will ask in the area.

I understand that voting is the most, on the phone, for the young people came up with. In order not to distract them from the picnic. With one eye, it means you follow the potatoes, and with the other you study the list of candidates. You recount the ribs with your friend’s hand, and poke the button with the other. It is, of course, progress. Maybe then you’ll start to solve the demographic problem. And on the other hand?

As for us, according to the Constitution, voting is secret. And what is the secret of the phone? For whom it is bought, it is known. Whose personal office is there in the State Services is also clear. Well, the one for whom this “cabinet worm” voted on a picnic is also clear. And where is the secret of the vote?

Although the grandfather said that in the pre-war era, our great leader and teacher, after one party congress, quickly enough secretly voted against him, calculated and sent to raise the national economy in the Kingdom of God. It was also not particularly difficult to calculate.

Anyway. One more thing is not clear to me: how is it with the results, with the results of the vote. One smart person told me here that the enemies have no loopholes in this regard. Today, any user can instantly calculate this enemy using secret and inaccessible databases of special services, banks, medical institutions, military registration and enlistment offices and other serious organizations. Pay a couple hundred to a type in a flea market and get this very database.

Again, grandparents. They are with us all day on the Internet. Sunflower seeds are husking there. On the rubble. Imagine the electronic voting of such a granny? All such a modern citizen comes to grandmother and offers to vote from his personal account. And what is the office of this old woman? She had milked cows all her life, and she saw the cabinet only at the chairman's office when she was knocking out cow food.

And the young man has everything with him. “Come on, grandmother, I will help you. Let's create an office for you. Very, you know, it will come in handy later on. ” And creates. Even the password that the granny asks for on her own does not peep. So, for example, tell a couple of options. And vote for whom you need help.

This granny will forget about the office in a couple of hours. And she has problems with the computer. But the thing is done. And in the next election, another young man will be lamented by the grandmother’s poor memory for passwords. Open her office ... And again everything will happen again.

So the question arises from me. Why change Zoyka the secretary to a young computer genius? How is Zoyka with an urn different from a young man with a laptop? In addition to paying for services, of course.

Even funnier is voting by mail. In our village there is a school and a post office nearby. Why the hell am I spending money on an envelope to vote by mail? Go to the post office, stand in line, spend money when you turn the other way and just vote. I think that the distance between the townspeople is also not very different between the post office and the polling station.

When summer comes, our population rises sharply. I mean, in the village. The zavmag of our goods begins to deliver twice as much. These, as they are there, cash flows are growing. But in the city there are a lot of goods. The population is moving to us. But in general it turns out an interesting situation. In total, the district center and our village consume more products than in winter.

In the district center, products are bought in case of a sudden return of summer residents, and we are because the summer residents are the most gluttonous. After all, no one takes into account expired products in the city. They wrote off and threw it away. But there are more of us.

That’s why I thought about it. But will it not work out this way during the elections? In the lists on the site I am. I'm going to vote, too, on the site. But suddenly the grandson arrived, and I went fishing with him. There he voted on the phone. And what about the list at school? It cannot happen that I “vote” there? By the way, the situation is possible and vice versa. I voted on the site, and someone opened my mail and voted for me on the Internet. What then?

A lot, oh a lot, I have questions for this vote by electronic means. But the biggest question is just one. Why are you in such a hurry? Coronavirus permanently planted us in houses and apartments? Or did some urgent issue arise, without a nationwide solution to which the country would die?

I’m wondering if everyone will recognize the results of the vote on the amendment of the Constitution in the case of applying the new voting system Is it not possible that we, through our own experiments, will generate a sufficiently large layer of doubters? But this is the Constitution of the Russian Federation! The basic Law.

Our village lives simpler than the city. Everything is more visible, more distinct here. It's not for nothing that I started with ecology. It’s more difficult to deceive us. No matter how much the party agitator speaks of a plowed field for a peasant, anyone here can go to the outskirts and see this same field. You do not have to be seven spans in the forehead to make out whether it is plowed or not.

And we know our deputies, and not like in the city, we see on television. And then the question arises among our men in the smoking room in the engine room about why the garden is again fenced. For "popular support"? For "voter turnout"? So those who voted before will still be today. And those, especially young people who do not believe in all these slogans of candidates and the implementation of promises in the future, will not lift a finger to turn on the telephone for voting.

We probably have a lot of money for such reforms.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 26 May 2020 10: 32 New
    +7
    Soon we will eat .... electronically ....
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 May 2020 10: 40 New
      10
      Quote: Alien From
      Soon we will eat .... electronically ....

      In the seventies the song walked:
      Big Towers We Will Build In Washington
      We’ll put beautiful girls in the White House
      Through Europe through the Pacific
      Let’s love them by electrical wires

      We will plow and sow electricity.
      We will get electricity from the bowels of the earth.
      Then we will live and live.
      Eat more and press the buttons.

      laughing
      1. 72jora72
        72jora72 26 May 2020 12: 23 New
        +6
        In the seventies the song walked:
        Big Towers We Will Build In Washington
        We’ll put beautiful girls in the White House
        Through Europe through the Pacific
        Let’s love them by electrical wires

        We will plow and sow electricity.
        We will get electricity from the bowels of the earth.
        Then we will live and live.
        Eat more and press the buttons.

        We will plow and sow electricity We will get electricity from the bowels Then we will live and live. Eat more and press the buttons.
        He pressed the button and got drunk. He pressed the button and found himself in the theater. I clicked on the button and you're already in the KGB. And the black bread is already smiling at you.
        Then electric robots will be born. They will be judged by electric prosecutors. They will be caught by electric garbage. And send to the electric camps.
        Then we will all easily rejuvenate. In the world we will be born babies. Then we will save women from childbirth. I clicked on the button and the person is ready.
        Ooo will be generated in a magnetic current field. From the transformer will appear at will. And charged under a voltaic arc. He will run to the electric pub. Recharged under a volt arc. He will hurry after the electric wife.
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 26 May 2020 10: 42 New
      32
      I don’t understand why to participate in such a farce?
      1. Alf
        Alf 26 May 2020 17: 53 New
        +4
        [quote = Malyuta] [/ quote]
        And they left us no choice.
        Vote For that, you’ll spit in your future.
        You vote Against your voice will go For, check in any way.
        You won’t vote, for the Nullified others will cast your vote.
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 27 May 2020 12: 37 New
        -4
        Quote: Malyuta
        I don’t understand why to participate in such a farce?

        What exactly does not suit you?
        1. your1970
          your1970 27 May 2020 15: 03 New
          -5
          Law of the Russian Federation on the amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation of March 14.03.2020, 1 N XNUMX-FKZ "On improving the regulation of certain issues of the organization and functioning of public authorities"
          Article 3
          1. This Law shall enter into force on the day of its official publication after approval by the legislative authorities of at least two-thirds of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, with the exception of Articles 1 and 2 of this Law, which shall enter into force in a special manner.
          2. After the entry into force of this Law, the President of the Russian Federation shall send to the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation a request for compliance with the provisions of Chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation that have not entered into force of the provisions of this Law, as well as for compliance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation of the procedure for entry into force of Article 1 of this Law.
          3. The Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation no later than seven days from the day the President of the Russian Federation sends the request specified in part 2 of this article is obliged to give a conclusion on compliance (non-compliance) with the provisions of chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation that have not entered into force the provisions of this Law , as well as on the conformity (non-compliance) with the Constitution of the Russian Federation of the entry into force of Article 1 of this Law.
          In case of inconsistency with the provisions of chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the provisions of this Law that have not entered into force, or inconsistency with the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the entry into force of article 1 of this Law, they do not enter into force, the all-Russian vote is not taken.
          In the event that the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation gives a conclusion on compliance with the provisions of Chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation of the provisions of this Law that have not entered into force and on compliance of the Constitution of the Russian Federation with the procedure for entry into force of Article 1 of this Law, Article 2 of this Law shall enter into force, an all-Russian vote is being held.
          4. Article 1 of this Law shall enter into force on the day of the official publication of the results of the all-Russian vote (taking into account the features established by part 7 of this article) if the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by it have been approved during the all-Russian vote.
          5. Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law shall be deemed approved if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation who participated in the all-Russian vote vote for them.
          If less than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation who participated in the all-Russian vote voted for amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for in Article 1 of this Law, such amendments shall not be deemed approved and article 1 of this Law shall not enter into force.

          ....
          8. After approval during the all-Russian vote of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law, the President of the Russian Federation issues a decree on the official publication of the Constitution of the Russian Federation as amended, as well as indicating the date of entry into force of the relevant amendments. The official publication of the Constitution of the Russian Federation as amended is carried out immediately after the official publication of the results of the all-Russian vote. "

          read the position of the law - poorly????? Shouting "bad, bad !!!" obviously easier ...
      3. NEOZ
        NEOZ 27 May 2020 15: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Malyuta
        I don’t understand why to participate in such a farce?

        can you write essentially?
        you pulled quotes, from this I can not make a conclusion than you are not happy !!!!
    3. Far B
      Far B 26 May 2020 10: 49 New
      16
      Duc Ellochka said that they had a new normalcy there. They have a new normality. This is the old normality here on earth. But they will try to rid us of her. Nehru to evade progress. By the way, I am becoming more and more convinced that this year the normality is really some very strong "new". While (and especially) at the top. But they let all this new normality down. Already now the whole country has been mutilated in it. And this is only five months since the beginning of the year, less than half. It's only the beginning.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 26 May 2020 10: 58 New
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        Quote: Dalny V
        But they will try to rid us of it. Nehru because to evade progress.

        Already. Yesterday with might and main on the first channel nightingale trills were flooded about the last remote call on a remote site.
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        2. sabakina
          sabakina 26 May 2020 11: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Already. Yesterday with might and main on the first channel nightingale trills were flooded about the last remote call on a remote site.
          Vladimir, what does "last remote call" mean? I still want to twitch! wink
        3. Hagen
          Hagen 26 May 2020 12: 06 New
          -2
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Yesterday with might and main on the first channel nightingale trills were flooded about the last remote call on a remote site.

          And our team of shift workers came to one enterprise. Also, everyone was gossiping, why the hell will they be bothering us for two weeks !!! Someone from the management scratched the turnip and decided, exactly, why this quarantine, maybe it will carry it anyway. As a result, several hundred people were hospitalized, some settlements were blocked, several enterprises were shut down ... But you can laugh at the "remote calls". Why, Solovyov washes our brain, and that one !!!
          1. aglet
            aglet 26 May 2020 17: 20 New
            +3
            where did this terrible incident happen? is it possible? or was it somewhere with us, in general, or maybe it wasn’t.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 26 May 2020 17: 32 New
              -15
              Quote: aglet
              can I address?

              Everything was in the media.
              1. aglet
                aglet 26 May 2020 17: 46 New
                +5
                there were a lot of things in the media, so what about the address? which area, at least? or "I am the daughter of an officer, and everything is ambiguous"?
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 26 May 2020 18: 03 New
                  -6
                  Quote: aglet
                  there were a lot of things in the media

                  ".... The total number of cases reached 506 people out of 1849 laboratory confirmed cases throughout the entire KhMAO. Another 29 new cases over the past day were detected in Surgut, a total of 241 cases.
                  Let us remind you that the growth of the disease is associated with a focus at the Surgutneftegaz field. In this regard, 3 settlements in the municipality are quarantined: the city of Lyantor, the villages of Fedorovsky and Nizhnesortymsky, where sick employees of the oil company live ... "Brief extracts. For more details, if you want, take the transcript of Komarova's meeting. Everything is in flowers and foul laughing (nearly)
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 26 May 2020 18: 09 New
                    +1
                    Thank you for the answer, although everything is not as scary as you broadcast. not from one brigade it all started? we will be worse-
                    Stavropol region
                    Key figures for May 26
                    Infections
                    2 086
                    Per day
                    75
                    Recovery
                    812 + 62
                    Of death
                    41 + 1
                    1. Hagen
                      Hagen 26 May 2020 18: 19 New
                      -1
                      Quote: aglet
                      it's not so scary

                      I'm not talking about fear, but about the fact that sometimes disregard of common sense can hurt the pockets, and not only the culprit. And if not all sick people survive? An oil company suspended for several days can bring very high costs. But the preventive procedures were quite affordable and much cheaper. I'm not even talking about the fact that the governor immediately sent commissions with great powers to the guilty enterprises. In short, today there is information about personnel reshuffles and termination of contracts. And we all joke about the "remote call". We still lacked school flashes?
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 26 May 2020 19: 30 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Hagen
                        And we all joke about the "remote call". We still lacked school flashes

                        The fact is that this is presented not as a danger of a virus, but as a kind of achievement of science and technology. Also, a mechanical arm with a bell was shown, her tods to the swing.
                      2. Hagen
                        Hagen 27 May 2020 10: 57 New
                        -5
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        it is presented not as a danger of a virus, but as a kind of achievement of science and technology.

                        Maybe they do not make the accents very correctly, but in fact, the current situation forces us to make those decisions that we had previously ts. somewhat feared. And when, under the pressure of external factors (pandemic), we roll around some still "crooked" technologies and methods of life in new conditions, we will learn somewhere to benefit from that digital world, from which we have nowhere to get away. It's just that today we often use a still raw product, and some things are out of the ordinary for us. All this violates our comfort. So we are boozing slowly. But this is temporary. Remember how bank cards began to enter our lives. Exactly the same.
                      3. your1970
                        your1970 27 May 2020 14: 43 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Hagen
                        Remember how bank cards began to enter our lives. Exactly the same.
                        -and everyone shouted in unison - "but how will rural pensioners use cards ???". 10 years have passed ... grannies with cards are quite controlled ...
                        The MFC was introduced when - they shouted “what are you, the crowd will break into a fight to the windows !!” And now it works for itself, and quite well.
                        Rosreestr won generally soon extraterritoriality will go .... some 10 years ago the military waited for a certificate of housing in the country for a month, and they had to apply strictly at the place of registration - and now anywhere in a week ..
                      4. minus
                        minus 27 May 2020 17: 02 New
                        +2
                        And I had a thunderstorm yesterday at night .... My wife went to the store today, but the terminals don’t accept cards and the ATM doesn’t work .... All day it's such nonsense. Okay, the sellers are familiar, they gave everything on credit. Is it okay? And what will happen with the full transition to cashless? Natural disaster, database failure or malicious actions of authorities or other persons and all .... So we do not need cards!)))
                      5. raif
                        raif 30 May 2020 11: 29 New
                        0
                        I will only write my experience of communicating just over the last couple of years of the year with a bunch of dumbass and girls-managers called "MFC" in Chelyabinsk (province) and St. Petersburg (almost the capital):
                        1. shared with an ex-wife an apartment in Chelyabinsk. documents from the MFC: lost, sent not to the address specified in the application, sent to the archive in exchange for the specified recipient-individual.
                        2. In the same place I was looking for who makes an archival certificate on participation in privatization. the city and regional MFC fell back on this. employees of the city hall helped voluntarily - they did so and sent by mail to St. Petersburg.
                        2. I ordered in St. Petersburg the certificate you mentioned for the military about the availability of housing with me and my wife. instead of a month, he waited two times, came there three times and cursed his superiors with obscenities, passing by his secretaries, security guards and you.
                        3. I also handed over documents for registration to me and my wife - documents stupidly lost. had to be re-assembled, and notary public services were paid by one of the MFCs - I sincerely hope that it was that stupid cattle that lost them.
                        from common to all:
                        the presence of a large number of staff who do not know how to work with computers - this applies to all ages. "Galya, please come, the program ... does not show me!" - this is no longer surprising.
                        Attempts to be rude and build an important person - thank God, are now quickly stopped by calls to regulatory authorities and superiors.
                        incomprehensible distribution of visitors: in St. Petersburg, in one office, there are wild queues and cries of staff "the recording will be for certain days, today it is not a fact that everyone will be accepted!", in the next (on the map) office - 2 visitors, including me, at 6 working windows. both offices belong to the same district.
                        often heard advice from the MFC employees themselves such as "take the documents straight to the Federal Register - it will be faster!"
                        the all-Russian really working database, as I understand it, will not be available for a long time. well, this is not shocking news, many suffer from this. for example, three branches of Sberbank of Russia in St. Petersburg refuse to reissue a card issued in Chelyabinsk - "we do not see your card in the database!"
                      6. your1970
                        your1970 30 May 2020 14: 07 New
                        0
                        "Take it to Rosreestr yourself" is an intrigue belay belay - Rosreestr has not been working directly with clients for 3 years. Consulting and complaints, acceptance of documents, terminated at the end of 2017 ...

                        There is no common base, they’ve been trying to implement it for 2 years now and it’s not working. EGRP (together with the inherited SCN) is still working in DOSe belay belay , including due to the wretchedness of computers (there are 2 Pentiums belay )

                        Rosreestr is a poor organization, only women work, salaries are scanty (specialist expert 14 with all allowances and bonuses, 000 bit secretaries receive), wretched funding .... Archival cases are scanned on conventional scanners, because there is no money to buy archival scanners and not expected ....

                        MFC - everywhere in different ways, but in the bulk deal.

                        The documents went to the archive because most likely (it happens) there was no checkmark "to send by mail". If it is not there, the unclaimed documents go to the Rosreestr archive in a month. Well, or someone promulgated
                      7. raif
                        raif 30 May 2020 14: 15 New
                        0
                        Rosreestr works directly and also in the regions indicated by me. the last case - a colleague bought a summer cottage in this year, 2020, and he brought the documents to the Federal Registration Service himself. and the wife of our other colleague, who herself works in the main office of the MFC of St. Petersburg, suggested this.
                        about my appeals to this wonderful office in 2018-2019. wrote in a previous post - read carefully. honestly and culturally, it doesn’t matter to me where and how the MFCs manage - I’ve met in two regions and am writing specifics.
                        the head of the department explained the mistake to me later - and I am writing again about the wild unprofessionalism of the staff. so your comment is superfluous here, although you guessed it - it was just an unchecked box, i.e. illiteracy of the next "girl-designer".
                      8. your1970
                        your1970 30 May 2020 14: 44 New
                        0
                        I work in Rosreestr repeat - And I remember HOW WAS WORK WITHOUT MFC .... when we had it - not in Chelyabinsk or St. Petersburg !!!! in the usual district center - the queue for submitting documents was taken at 3 a.m. And I fought fights in this queue several times ...

                        Why do they accept documents, which is expressly prohibited by order, there could be a version about bribes, but you would write about it ..
                        Perhaps there is some kind of agreement at a higher level - about such assistance from the MFC. I don’t know, it’s strange at all. The last staff reduction just in 2018 was held under the slogan - "There is no admission now, therefore we are reducing
                      9. raif
                        raif 31 May 2020 15: 40 New
                        0
                        mdya ... first organize - and then carry out the reduction of staff ...
                        "Fools in Russia are in store for 100 years in advance!"
                      10. your1970
                        your1970 31 May 2020 15: 44 New
                        0
                        Quote: raif
                        mdya ... first organize - and then carry out the reduction of staff ...
                        "Fools in Russia are in store for 100 years in advance!"

                        The Rosreestr organized a long time ago another question: what now are the possibilities to really draw up documents extraterritorially. And naturally, at the same time, they will reduce all the small regional Regpalates - as soon as the archives are digitized.
                        Most likely, the registrars will remain in big cities and that’s all ...
                        Customs has already almost 100% of the declaration electronically issued for almost 10 years ...
          2. ALARI
            ALARI 29 May 2020 08: 12 New
            0
            The point is not how to vote (remotely or in person), but what to vote for and how it is served. See the root.
          3. Hagen
            Hagen 29 May 2020 09: 55 New
            -1
            Quote: ALARI
            See the root.

            You will read the question answered. All roots will be visible. On the question "what to vote for", then everyone will answer to himself. If he does not find "why" - he will stay at home and will not go to the resource, if he finds it, he will express his opinion. Personally, I don't care how this is presented. The main thing is the essence. Any thinking person is able to separate grains from husks. I do not see the subject of controversy and bewilderment.
          4. AleBors
            AleBors 29 May 2020 13: 28 New
            0
            However, how the media formatted you ... There is such an anecdote:
            -My neighbor is watching TV all day!
            -He what?
            -Now yes...
          5. Hagen
            Hagen 29 May 2020 13: 38 New
            0
            Quote: AleBors
            However, how the media formatted you.

            I live my mind, yours do not care about me. I have enough of mine so as not to worry about my tomorrow. And so I watch TV without reflections. You can collect jokes, your right.
          6. AleBors
            AleBors 29 May 2020 19: 11 New
            0
            Quote: Hagen
            And so I watch TV without reflections.

            This, you will not believe, is noticeable. laughing
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  • AleBors
    AleBors 29 May 2020 13: 26 New
    0
    Sounds like a fantasy.
  • depressant
    depressant 26 May 2020 12: 31 New
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    The more they persuade me to vote on amendments (vote at least for, even against, but be sure to come!), The more resistance to violence against my personality grows in me. I don’t understand this feverish rat bustle of power and loud information squeaks, like a hungry pack was being fed, and only my voice can raise the damper that separates rats from food. Why this indecent haste of voting? It is not clear to me why to introduce into the Constitution what already exists as a norm of ordinary law - exists and can exist. And the vile form of the amendment about the Russian people is especially offensive, the dismissive mention of my nation only in passing and in the genitive case - as if reluctantly, as if with difficulty suppressing contempt and hatred tearing out ...
    And now I have to go and cast my vote for the hastily arrogant collection of political recipes?
    I suspect for another. For the possibility of power, in any case convenient for it, to amend the Constitution in the future, without asking me. And without even announcing that they say so and so, they changed it, but they left it. After all, the Constitution has already been changed, isn't it? We already live on the amended Constitution! Therefore, the vote will not be amended. It is irony, an evil mockery of those who still naively believe that the political leadership is obliged to take into account their meaningless opinion, political leadership, opinion. It is a test of the keyboard pen in falsification of subsequent voting discriminating against people.
    1. codetalker
      codetalker 26 May 2020 16: 20 New
      -20
      Who persuades and forces you?)
      Yes, indeed, if you do not understand why these amendments are needed, it is better not to go. Thank God, they will be accepted.
      1. depressant
        depressant 26 May 2020 16: 54 New
        11
        Colleague codetalker! From year to year I was called upon to fulfill my civic duty - to come to the polling station and vote. I used to vote. The ability to choose the governing bodies of different levels gave me a sense of belonging to my country. It means a lot to me. And now the phrase "civic duty" is not even mentioned in the mass media because the authorities do not need it. Have you noticed? They just wrote me off, they don't need me. The updated Constitution has been brought to the attention of the lower authorities and is already working. As a citizen of Russia, they simply forgot about me. They are remembered as a rabbit on which to try out some aspect of digitalization. Until they remember. But they don't really need it anymore.
    2. Hagen
      Hagen 26 May 2020 17: 29 New
      -13
      Quote: depressant
      For the possibility of power, in any case convenient for it, to amend the Constitution in the future, without asking me. And without even announcing that they say so and so, they changed it, but they left it. After all, the Constitution has already been changed, isn't it? We already live on the amended Constitution!

      Have you voted for associations of subjects? Or for introducing new ones? And then there were also changes to the constitution. All survived. And these amendments do not fall under the need for a referendum on them, but the authorities themselves decided to hold. I do not understand your indignation. Although in any case, they will not drag anyone on the lasso.
      Quote: depressant
      resistance to violence against my personality is growing in me.

      And during the Soviet Union, you voted for the only candidate without resistance? Was everything there by mutual agreement? Today you are only agitated, but not forced.
      1. depressant
        depressant 26 May 2020 18: 54 New
        +4
        Hagen, we didn’t have a vote on enlargement. This is a private issue.
        But the fact that they do not force me to vote is ...
        It’s one thing when they do not force me, knowing that out of a sense of duty, I will definitely go to vote, because something depends on my voice, and people interested in him are waiting for him, my voice. You don’t need to force me either, because I, as part of the people, are the mistress of my country, I will certainly show civic consciousness.
        And it’s quite different when they don’t force them out of considerations: “Are you still here? Well, go to the site, since it’s so hot, let's play - what do we have there?” - well, yes, democracy , ha-ha-ha! ... But you should know that your voice is not painful and is needed. For everything has been decided without you. And out of the kindness of our spiritual urn, we will put you - whatever the child is amused with ... "
        Two options: how it should look and how it really looks.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 26 May 2020 19: 04 New
          -7
          Quote: depressant
          This is a private issue.

          What are you talking about? This is a matter of amending the Constitution. And there were several such changes. And everything was adopted by the Parliament and without referendums. Why? Because chapters 1 and 2 were not touched, well, 9 too. If you look at the proposed changes, then also chapters 1,2, 9 and XNUMX are not affected. Those. Pamfilova is right, all these changes can be accepted without the "nationwide ..." But for some reason the Supreme Commander decided to ask us ... Why? Somehow it does not quite fit with the widespread here "he does not care ...". Everyone is free to think as he wants, everyone is free to regard his life as the substance in which he considers it more convenient. You consider it a hard labor, violence against you, your right. Mine gives me satisfaction, though not without difficulty.
          1. depressant
            depressant 26 May 2020 20: 04 New
            14
            And you have an answer, why did the Supreme decide to ask us? Just do not tell that he is really interested in our opinion. Statistics is important to him - the very false statistics that will be displayed on large screens in the Central Election Commission. To shake it in undercover games before those rich who are dissatisfied with the distribution of the state bubble in favor of other rich ...
            Putin’s mistake is that in domestic politics he relied on unfit people and ruled the country using unfit methods. And the fact that the country is still in one piece and still not beggars is not thanks to him, but contrary to it. The people are still strong. Withstood Yeltsin, we can withstand Putin with his manic addiction to ratings, and not to worthy state affairs.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 26 May 2020 21: 29 New
              -11
              Quote: depressant
              Just do not tell that he is really interested in our opinion.

              This is just your opinion. You are offended by something with life, you are in a bad mood. So this is not for everyone. I wonder if in the history of Russia there was a leader worthy of your praise? With good people, methods, etc.
              1. depressant
                depressant 27 May 2020 00: 31 New
                +5
                My colleague is not aware of such a mood. I can only worry about the future of my country, hoping to live in it. As you know, no one wants to live in a bad future. For example, you, right? Here I am too. And in order to improve the future, it is necessary to severely criticize the flaws of those on whom it depends directly. Namely, the leadership of the country at all levels, and not to let anything out of these persons. Let the odes, panegyrics and hymns to these gentlemen compose specially designed for this purpose people. For example, the Kremlin journalistic pool and television. At the same time, keep in mind that people who go to the leadership of the country must understand that they will certainly be subjected to harsh, sometimes unjust criticism - to understand, accept criticism, draw the right conclusions and adjust their actions so that in the future they do not look dubious. This is if people in power are smart. That is their job; it is not for fools. And you, defending the dubious actions of the authorities, thereby defending its right to look stupid. There is no such right in power!
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 27 May 2020 10: 49 New
                  -4
                  Quote: depressant
                  And you, defending the dubious actions of the authorities, thereby defending its right to look stupid.

                  I, in fact, do not protect anyone, I just would like to see the charges with justifications. For example, if you see someone doubting your sanity, do not ask - what reason does he have for this? Ask. And you will be absolutely right. Criticism must always be substantive, substantiated and evidence-based. Otherwise, it will be criticism, which does not lead to those completely noble goals that you aspire to. Do you disagree?
                2. depressant
                  depressant 27 May 2020 14: 09 New
                  +1
                  Hagen, I agree! There are arguments, but it was somehow embarrassing to bring them in a discussion of an article on a different topic. So, by the way, it was necessary))
              2. your1970
                your1970 30 May 2020 14: 17 New
                +1
                Quote: depressant
                My colleague is not aware of such a mood. I can only worry about the future of my country, hoping to live in it. As you know, no one wants to live in a bad future.

                Now you won't - the "people" have reached out to PACE, now PACE will check the legality of the amendments ..
                Especially they will be concerned about the amendment on the prevalence of our legislation over international ....
                I congratulate you - now PACE will take care of your good future ...,
                Che there .....
              3. depressant
                depressant 30 May 2020 16: 36 New
                0
                Your colleague, stop! Did I get it in PACE? ))) You are clearly confusing me with someone. As for my future, the US Federal Reserve will take care of it through Siluanov, Nabiullina and the president controlled by it, using the order transmitter in the form of the IMF. I’ll catch up and take care so that I won’t be enough. This is how my layman sees our life. You, the official, see her in a different way. It is possible that I am wrong. And, mind you, I'm not a stubborn person. Under the pressure of worthy arguments, I am able to change my own idea of ​​the subject under discussion.
              4. your1970
                your1970 30 May 2020 21: 04 New
                0
                Quote: depressant
                Did I get it in PACE? )))
                belay repeat fellow
                You correctly understood, that now you (just dissatisfied) and frank liberals can troll, uniting you and sign the petition !!!!

                "The signatories expressed the will of the common people (including Lyudmila Depressant) !!! Was she against the amendments? Was she !!
                We, Gozman & Co, have expressed HER will, the will of the common people !!! "

                I, too, did not like everything in the amendments, but as I imagine, FORMALLY they expressed my will as dissatisfied, they will bite the teeth together !!!!

                And the fact that PACE will be type protect me from arbitrariness and a bad Constitution, generally a pipe ....

                Defenders of a fig .......
              5. depressant
                depressant 31 May 2020 07: 13 New
                +1
                It has always been that way. We do not have time to express dissatisfaction with how liberals grab it as their own idea, pushing us out of the political field. We turn out to be a passive mass supporting them. We do not have our own leader. Therefore we are mute. I’ve been talking about this for a long time.
              6. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 31 May 2020 07: 32 New
                +3
                Quote: depressant
                We do not have our own leader. Therefore we are mute

                Kamrad! love hi Aren't you a leader ?! And the fact that the people are silent, Duc is not the time wink
                Shl. Remember, there are already two of us! And as one of our mentor of the Guards Major, who was shell-shocked a couple of times, said, "the paratrooper is never alone, there are two Kalashnikov assault rifles with him, there are 30 more" friends "in the store, which means it is a platoon, then consider yourself. good drinks
              7. depressant
                depressant 31 May 2020 08: 49 New
                +1
                A colleague ... I'm too old for leadership))))
                And very sick. Then the body would be put together. In addition, I have been an introvert since childhood. On the street or in the entrance, I can intervene in the situation, but no more, I’m not enough for more. Unless you tap your finger on the small keyboard of a mobile phone. I wish you success. Just do not rush to take a Kalashnikov assault rifle as a friend love
  • Snail N9
    Snail N9 26 May 2020 15: 31 New
    11
    Ah, what form graduates had! Download it!
  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 28 May 2020 17: 53 New
    0
    And you would like to collect all graduates in heaps))))) ....
  • Crowe
    Crowe 26 May 2020 11: 45 New
    28
    What do they think? In many villages there is no cellular communication at all, not all computers have telephones, how will people vote?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 26 May 2020 13: 08 New
      -21
      In my opinion, even in the most remote village you cannot find a person without a mobile phone.
      1. Kotofeich
        Kotofeich 26 May 2020 14: 08 New
        +8
        And, where does the cell phone? You’ll have to vote not on a cell phone, but on a smartphone. How do you go on a public service from a mobile phone?
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 26 May 2020 15: 25 New
          -4
          Who forbids voting in the traditional way or by mail?
          1. codetalker
            codetalker 26 May 2020 16: 23 New
            -9
            No one forbids. But on this occasion you will not make a nagging: "as everything is bad now, it was better before."
    2. Charik
      Charik 26 May 2020 14: 25 New
      13
      As in durdum, one in ten decides to press a button
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 15: 49 New
      -12
      Yeah, they’re sitting at the bends and wiping themselves with a mug.
    4. Alf
      Alf 26 May 2020 17: 57 New
      +7
      Quote: Crowe
      not all computers have phones, how will people vote?

      They told you the Russian language.
      All such a modern citizen comes to grandmother and offers to vote from his personal account. And what is the office of this old woman?
      And the young man has everything with him. “Come on, grandmother, I will help you. Let's create an office for you. Very, you know, it will come in handy later on. ” And creates. Even the password that the granny asks for on her own does not peep. So, for example, tell a couple of options. And vote for whom you need help.
      1. your1970
        your1970 27 May 2020 14: 48 New
        -7
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Crowe
        not all computers have phones, how will people vote?

        They told you the Russian language.
        All such a modern citizen comes to grandmother and offers to vote from his personal account. And what is the office of this old woman?
        And the young man has everything with him. “Come on, grandmother, I will help you. Let's create an office for you. Very, you know, it will come in handy later on. ” And creates. Even the password that the granny asks for on her own does not peep. So, for example, tell a couple of options. And vote for whom you need help.

        Some 10 years ago, all the same was almost literally said when pensioners were transferred to cards ... "But how can a granny be able to pay with a card ??"
        1. Lyuba1965_01
          Lyuba1965_01 28 May 2020 05: 07 New
          +2
          Have you seen much that village grannies pay with a card?
          I’ve never seen such a sight.
          But I myself personally saw how old women in small towns approached the bank’s guards, next to which there were ATMs and asked them to remove their pension because they do not know how to do it themselves.
          And I have observed such cases more than once or twice.
          In addition, usually grannies do not pay with cards, they immediately remove the entire pension.
    5. Hagen
      Hagen 27 May 2020 18: 09 New
      -4
      Quote: Crowe
      In many villages there is no cellular communication at all, not all computers have telephones, how will people vote?

      Vote in the usual manner. Just the number of points of traditional voting will be several times smaller, only where otherwise is not possible. Bank cards appeared, but no one canceled paper money.
      Quote: Crowe
      What do they think there?

      You probably really think that "they" have nothing there than you can think, but you have a lot more of that? wassat
  • Civil
    Civil 26 May 2020 11: 16 New
    +6
    1. Your opinion is advisory in nature, that is, it is interesting to know which, but does not solve anything.
    2. All of these grandmothers, who regularly walk for 20 years and create extras, are easier to get rid of this right. All the same, they understand nothing, unfortunately. From the age of 40, these grandmothers have only been eating and watching TV.
    3. On the contrary, grandfathers need help - their units must be respected.
    1. TRex
      TRex 27 May 2020 12: 50 New
      +3
      But I think that such "grandmothers" sit in election commissions ... Did you pay attention - who sits there at the tables, who are secretaries, who are chairmen and other persons? Just about - they are the most ... activists from among the employees of administrations, school teachers, employees of management companies and so on, etc. ... AND HOW TO ORDER FROM TOP - this will be the result of the vote, otherwise - lose the favor of the current administration.
      Therefore, we have "United Russia" - unsinkable, no matter what cannibalistic laws the Duma adopts, no matter what anti-rating the president earns. Therefore, in the Duma there are sportsmen-businessmen who are deeply on the drum that not all men live up to 65, therefore a deep pensioner, probably already a little moronic, can put forward bold proposals about "zeroing" ...
      We did not think for ourselves - how did we manage to live so many years with such a useless Constitution, in which not a word about the protection of animals ???
    2. Hagen
      Hagen 27 May 2020 18: 13 New
      -4
      Quote: Civil
      All of these grandmothers, who regularly walk for 20 years and create extras, are easier to get rid of this right. All the same, they understand nothing, unfortunately.

      What is your specific sense of humor !!! What category do you consider yourself to be? To deprived people or those who have not reached the finish line in the struggle for the right to vote? wassat
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 26 May 2020 11: 37 New
    +7
    Quote: Alien From
    Soon we will eat .... electronically ....


    Soon we will be evaluated and paid for as cryptocurrencies by us, and we will be like dolls on the ropes.
    The patent for the new Gates cryptocurrency really has a place to be ...
    At the end of March, Microsoft received a patent for an algorithm called the Cryptocurrency System Using Body Activity Data (“Cryptocurrency system using body activity data”). According to the developers, with the help of a biosensor (the notorious chip), implanted into the body or attached to it, you can remotely monitor the activity of the human brain, circulatory and other systems of his body, transmit information about brain waves, body temperature, pulse, body fluids and etc. According to these indicators, the customer will be able to understand what the chip carrier is currently occupied with: whether he sits on social networks, reads mail, uses a search engine, watches video content, etc.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 26 May 2020 13: 27 New
      0
      Alternatively, everything goes as in the movie "time".
      https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/517988/
    2. Qwertyarion
      Qwertyarion 26 May 2020 13: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: NEXUS
      And we will be like dolls on the ropes.

      Are you ready for such a development?
      Where you won’t be hired without a chip, you won’t be given a loan, you won’t be treated at the hospital.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 26 May 2020 13: 54 New
        12
        Quote: Qwertyarion
        Are you ready for such a development?
        Where you won’t be hired without a chip, you won’t be given a loan, you won’t be treated at the hospital.

        Any sane, free person categorically does not want this. For it is an invasion of a person’s personal space, manipulation and genocide in relation to a person, as to a free-thinking person.
        1. Qwertyarion
          Qwertyarion 26 May 2020 14: 30 New
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          a free man categorically does not want this.

          If this turns out to be true, the opinion of a person, no one will be interested.
          Just provide a choice without a choice.
          Let's hope that he will be at least small in size and we will not (the chip) cling to everything when walking.
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 26 May 2020 15: 42 New
            12
            I already wrote about this buffoonery which was called "voting", my attitude to it. You can vote, you can not vote, it does not change anything. This is not a referendum, and therefore the vote has no "force", from the word "in general" - the amendments are actually adopted, the signature of the president remains. Do you want to say that he will not sign them if 100% vote against? Do not tell my slippers, all this is started to "zero" and in order to consolidate some provisions to untie the hands of the ruling clan in some issues, under the patriotic-family "value" noise ... list "on such an important issue. But the hamsters hawk, and even, something, here, discuss ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 27 May 2020 14: 51 New
              -7
              Quote: Snail N9
              I already wrote about this buffoonery which was called "voting", my attitude to it. You can vote, you can not vote, it does not change anything.
              -that is, elections in the USSR with a result of 98,7% "FOR" the only the candidate changed something ??? won ....
              Everything was honest ....
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 20: 28 New
        -2
        Replace the word "chip" with the word "passport". What changed? Without a passport, you also will not see a job or a loan. What's the difference: a piece of paper or microelectronics?
    3. ZAV69
      ZAV69 26 May 2020 20: 00 New
      -2
      Quote: NEXUS
      The patent for the new Gates cryptocurrency really has a place to be ...

      We have a patent. But just how will the chip sensor transmit data? He has a radius of action of half a meter. Yes, and a special receiver is needed
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 20: 29 New
        -7
        The chip is perfectly shielded. A foil hat, for example.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 26 May 2020 10: 32 New
    27
    We probably have a lot of money for such reforms.

    There is money for everything, but not where it really should be .. but you hold on .. and a good mood ..
    Everything is clear with the elections, as well as with today's realities. It is sad to watch the degradation of everything, from the political system, to medicine with education, and even sadder that it can’t be quickly restored. When the forces of zero are left, everything will be so neglected that it will take decades to recover, if you are lucky of course .. but I, like many others in VO, will not find this anymore ..
  • Slavs
    Slavs 26 May 2020 10: 37 New
    18
    That's right ... And the meaning and the voting process itself finally turns into a farce ... Well, budget development .. For software and its security))
    It's like with video cameras on the exam ... How did I pass state exams without video surveillance?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 26 May 2020 12: 00 New
      11
      Quote: Slavs
      How did I pass state exams without video surveillance?
      How? Like everyone who was born in the Union! at night you write spurs in small handwriting, in the morning, with red eyes you read what you wrote there! wink
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 26 May 2020 13: 43 New
        +7
        Quote: sabakina
        Quote: Slavs
        How did I pass state exams without video surveillance?
        How? Like everyone who was born in the Union! at night you write spurs in small handwriting, in the morning, with red eyes you read what you wrote there! wink


        From the third year went secret items. You write in a laced notebook with a seal. When leaving, you hand over. Prepared in a special library. Come, get a notebook, get ready, at the exit - hand over. No extraneous entries. It was possible to grab an exception for a spur. For violation of the regime.
      2. Lyuba1965_01
        Lyuba1965_01 28 May 2020 05: 14 New
        +1
        About the spurs.
        Do you know what is the most interesting?
        They were almost never used in exams, because it was not always possible to read what was written in small handwriting, and even on some small pieces of paper under the scrutiny of teachers or university professors.
        We had one professor who himself spoke before the exams so that we would write them.
        What for? Yes, he said, we’ll hardly be able to use them anyway, but repeating the material before the exam will not hurt.
    2. AUL
      AUL 26 May 2020 12: 14 New
      23
      Quote: Slavs
      And the meaning and the voting process itself is finally turning into a farce ...

      It cannot even be called a farce. This is an open and cynical mockery of your people. What are we going to vote for? For a few declarative slogans? At first they promised to at least deprive our servants of the people of the opportunity to have houses and accounts over the hill. The people greeted this with approval. So what? Slowly, "without noise and dust", without advertising, this item somehow disappeared from the draft amendments. What is left of the specific provisions? And zeroing! About which the Kiselevs and Co. do not speak, they do not advertise with a duroscope, but for which this whole circus with horses was started.
      PS And then they will tell us - you yourself voted for it ...
      1. Alf
        Alf 26 May 2020 18: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: AUL
        PS And then they will tell us - you yourself voted for it ...

        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 28 May 2020 17: 55 New
          0
          You will talk to us about this in every comment thread. This is your sore spot. You’re living shitty. Already you can’t eat, how shitty.
    3. your1970
      your1970 27 May 2020 14: 56 New
      -5
      Quote: Slavs
      How did I pass state exams without video surveillance?
      -Known as .. "for the ram" .. Do you know such an anecdote from the times of the USSR? even at the end of the 80s, there were criminal cases among the teaching staff of Soviet universities on bribes at exams to institutes. And the amounts danced there madly
      Well, in the 90s - our rector changed Mercedes each year...
      1. your1970
        your1970 28 May 2020 22: 00 New
        -1
        Citizens are minusers - in 1987 I entered the Moscow Institute of Water Transport Engineers. To be guaranteed, I had to get 2 fives on exams ... or pay 1000 rubles ...
        My acquaintance did just that, I didn’t get the point - and I didn’t have 1000. And such eagles as he later told me at the meeting - 3/4 of the institute
        And this is not some kind of trade or MGIMO - not a very popular institution with a competition of 3 people per place, no more ...
        Multiply 1000 by 3/4 of the number of goals in the stream .... yes even by 1/4 ....
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 26 May 2020 10: 37 New
    11
    In the city, grandmothers and grandfathers are not very different from the village. The roots are the same. And what voting without a choice will be, it’s clear to both the village swallow and the city sparrow. Not to mention hedgehogs. But why everything is so urgently necessary to change - it is still in the fog. It seems that it does not burn with zeroing, and the amendments are not emergency. Let's wait until it clears up.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 May 2020 12: 05 New
      10
      Quote: Mikhail M
      But why everything is so urgently necessary to change - it is still in the fog. It seems that it does not burn with zeroing, and the amendments are not emergency. Let's wait until it clears up.

      I believe that this is a test version before the elections to the State Duma in 2021, in which the Edra party, which is rapidly losing its rating, may lose miserably. If it fails now, then it will be followed by bravura speeches full of optimism that the purity and honesty of the remote elections was phenomenal and amazingly honest and transparent. Then they will put an economic foundation under this case, emphasizing that this option allows you to save a mind-boggling amount for the budget, since you do not need to pay for the work of numerous election commissions and spend money on ballots, and therefore allows you to send this money to the "needs of the people" with a list the alleged "buns" that the aforementioned people are now something, not like yesterday, they will definitely receive (sorry that again virtually). Somehow I think so recourse
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 26 May 2020 12: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: Michael m
      And what voting without a choice will be, it’s clear to both the village swallow and the city sparrow. Not to mention hedgehogs. .
      Well, hedgehogs have personally expressed their opinion. wink
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 26 May 2020 17: 09 New
        +4
        Even "Hedgehog in the Fog" is now "in a new way":
  • knn54
    knn54 26 May 2020 10: 42 New
    14
    "Remote elections" are essentially DELETING elections.
    1. Errr
      Errr 26 May 2020 11: 12 New
      +1
      Ilikton-drowned outfalls - Enta ÖK!-You fell out, aspen kalas toes. laughing
  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 26 May 2020 10: 46 New
    0
    The author is not given rest by only one point, about zeroing. But in the village the author was not even close to drive up.
    1. Far B
      Far B 26 May 2020 11: 01 New
      +7
      You see, what a cripple ... If you add a spoonful of honey to a barrel of shit, then the output will naturally be a barrel of shit. But if you add a spoonful of shit to the barrel of honey, then the output will again be a barrel of shit. So with these amendments to the Constitution - one awkward movement, and the initiative, which could be really useful, nothing but rejection no longer causes.
      Tell me, do you really perceive this point with a feeling of deep moral satisfaction?
      1. ZAV69
        ZAV69 26 May 2020 18: 49 New
        -4
        Quote: Dalny V
        Tell me, do you really perceive this point with a feeling of deep moral satisfaction?

        And frankly speaking, I don’t give a damn about this point. Another 4 years before the election. And not the fact that Vova will participate in them.
        1. your1970
          your1970 27 May 2020 14: 59 New
          -5
          Quote: ZAV69
          Quote: Dalny V
          Tell me, do you really perceive this point with a feeling of deep moral satisfaction?

          And frankly speaking, I don’t give a damn about this point. Another 4 years before the election. And not the fact that Vova will participate in them.
          -And it doesn’t reach the people that HE is, in principle, not immortal ....
    2. Roman123567
      Roman123567 26 May 2020 12: 15 New
      +7
      Only one item does not give the author peace, about zeroing


      What to do if there is only one item .. about zeroing ..
      Or will you go to vote with thoughts on protecting animal rights ??)
      For the first time in the history of the country, amendments to the Constitution are proposed to protect the rights of animals. In the future of Russia there is no place for cruelty and violence.

      "there is no place for cruelty and violence"))) Hand-face ..
      1. ZAV69
        ZAV69 26 May 2020 19: 17 New
        -5
        Quote: Roman123567
        What to do if there is only one item .. about zeroing ..
        Or will you go to vote with thoughts on protecting animal rights ??)

        There are many changes in the constitution, and effective ones. I don’t see the point in listing them; everything was discussed. I would think in your place why you see only one point ..... There is a successful application of technologies for manipulating you.
  • GMM
    GMM 26 May 2020 10: 48 New
    18
    Many people have push-button telephones, some do not have mobile phones, but there are also non-telephoned telephones with wired connection.
    For voting, they will need to go outside and raise their passports to the sky. Under the leadership of Rogozin, our entire orbital constellation of satellites will be involved in identifying people on earth with passports aimed at the sky and further decoding what they showed with gestures (dule, cookie, fact as a denial of what is happening or language as a sign of support).
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 26 May 2020 12: 14 New
      -1
      mmg, well, everything is simple. Either like (thumb up), or dislike (thumb down). wink
      1. GMM
        GMM 26 May 2020 12: 20 New
        10
        When posing the question as follows, the direction of the finger will be absolutely irrelevant:
        ARE YOU NOT AGAINST AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION?
        - Yeah I do not mind
        - No I do not mind
    2. knn54
      knn54 26 May 2020 12: 41 New
      11
      -How to ensure a free secret ballot. WHERE is the certainty that a person voting online does it of his own free will, and not under duress?
      -How can you simultaneously provide the ability to identify EVERY voice of a voter "at a distance"?
      1. Lyuba1965_01
        Lyuba1965_01 28 May 2020 05: 21 New
        0
        Why do this? All the programs for the computer were invented by people, while the people who were needed were probably invented by a program that would vote as it should for statistics.
        In the States, after the second Obama election, many complained that they pressed buttons for one candidate, but it appeared on the screen that they had voted for Obama.
        Moreover, some even officially complained about this, but only everything remained unanswered, and considered electronic voting transparent and transparent.
    3. ZAV69
      ZAV69 26 May 2020 19: 32 New
      -3
      Quote: mmg
      Many people have push-button telephones, some do not have mobile phones, but there are also non-telephoned telephones with wired connection.

      Where do you live if it's not a secret if you have only one button phones there?
      The reality is that smart telephony is slowly dying. It stands in the msan village, in it one SAK board is half empty and two VDSL boards are clogged to the top. Many hold the phone just to make adsl work on the telephone line, the phone is listed, but the device is not. Often you see this picture: there is an adsl or airborne forces router and the whole family is sitting on the network with wifi phones.
      About 7 years ago, of course, this wasn’t a fig, there were dying coordinates and copper sl. And then the federal program of EIKS passed, they extended optics everywhere and everything appeared. So there is no need to tell tales about push-button telephones here, it is of course straight in the style of feuilleton, but fake like that.
      1. Lyuba1965_01
        Lyuba1965_01 28 May 2020 05: 23 New
        0
        I have a smartphone, and my husband has a push-button telephone, and he is not going to part with it. And how do you command him to vote? Buy a specially designed smartphone for voting?
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 May 2020 10: 51 New
    11
    Previously, during the Soviet era, elections were a holiday. At the village council, the flag was changed to a new one.
    Probably the biggest holiday in the countryside. Elections were always held in our old school built in 1863, all the surrounding villages gathered with families, came on horseback. Harmonists of all villages were refined in their skills, dancing, festivities, joyful faces. Well, of course, the "Selpo" store manager, right next to the school, was setting up either a buffet or a shop, with a simple snack and vodka for men and a pladovo-profitable one for the ladies. Of course, by the end of the hangout, it was not without a massacre, basically "my village is better than yours." The men are massaging their fists on the faces of their opponents, and the woman, with shouts and fists, protects her master. Later in the evening, everything calms down, everyone enjoyed themselves, men for vodka, brawlers for a bruise, guys for 100 grams of candy "pillow", women gossip. And the main holiday, the elections, was calm and decorous. And so on until the next election.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 26 May 2020 12: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: tihonmarine
      ... Harmonists of all villages were refined in their skills, dancing, festivities, joyful faces. Well, of course, the "Selpo" store manager, right next to the school, was setting up either a buffet or a shop, with a simple snack and vodka for men and a pladovo-profitable one for the ladies. Of course, by the end of the hangout, it was not without a massacre, basically "my village is better than yours." The peasants are massaging their fists on the faces of their opponents, and the woman with shouts and fists protects her master. Later in the evening, everything calms down, everyone enjoyed themselves, men for vodka, brawlers for a bruise, guys for 100 grams of candy "pillow", women gossip. And the main holiday, the elections, was calm and decorous. And so on until the next election.
      Vlad, just then thought about tomorrow, and not about what will happen tomorrow! wink
      This video in no way displays what you might think about!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 26 May 2020 13: 11 New
        -1
        Quote: sabakina
        This video in no way displays what you might think about!

         The time when this film was released does not fit in with the village and the processes taking place there, but you can watch it once.
    2. Hagen
      Hagen 26 May 2020 12: 25 New
      -7
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Later in the evening, everything calms down, everyone enjoyed themselves, men for vodka, brawlers for a bruise, guys for 100 grams of candy "pillow", women gossip. And the main holiday, the elections, was calm and decorous. And so on until the next election.

      This is how we live, not understanding what we need from the elections - a new government or a reason for drunken fun? I don’t think I’ll "discover America" ​​if I say that all this outbound trade, the withdrawal of employees of cultural departments with accordions (for a fee), contests and lotteries were organized by municipal administrations with one goal - to lure the electorate out of the house and raise the turnout figure , and to ensure the "unanimous expression of the will" of the people in the absence of alternative persons (in the USSR). Realizing that this useless event could fail without a massive drinking bout, the authorities organized the holiday from scratch.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 26 May 2020 13: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Hagen
        This is how we live, not realizing what we need from the elections - a new government or an occasion for drunken fun?

        Previously, there was no need to travel to the villages and persuade people, they themselves came to the elections, played the accordion themselves, and had fun themselves. For them it was a holiday, communication with friends from other villages, there were two days off a year, October and elections. The village worked without breaks for weekends and vacations. And drunkenness was purely conditional by our standards, the men brought their own bread, and the women took cheap wine, their own snacks, and, well, the children had "pillows". And no one thought what power was, they knew that there was only one power and they had to vote for it. Then the people were simpler and kinder.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 26 May 2020 15: 32 New
          -2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          For them it was a holiday, chatting with friends from other villages,

          This is your performance and childhood memories of days gone by. And memory, as a rule, hides negative and only grace remains ... Maybe in the 50s drunkenness was "purely conditional", I personally cannot judge, because was born a little later. But the 70s spent almost every summer in the village. Drunkenness and mismanagement caught the eye, the wheat yield was two buckets more than that sown. My grandfather, a front-line soldier, used to say - "we are a millionaire collective farm, we owe a million to the state, soon we will be twice millionaires, we will exchange the second". Maybe such a village is not quite "advanced"? But the neighbors did not shine with a greater "civilization". Do you want to present a popular picture of Soviet village life? These are fairy tales, far from reality ...
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And no one thought what power was; they knew that there was one power and that it was necessary to vote for it.

          Did you know ....... what to vote? Yes, they knew ... The chief (chairman, foreman) gathered ahead of time and "... God forbid, rush-rush-rush, who will not appear ...." So they combined the useful with the pleasant. And for those who still did not show up, a special team drove with a box and ballots, in which there was one name. Such are the elections - there is a vote, but there is no alternative. laughing I came to the store to choose sausages, and there is only beet. And he chose the beetroot ...
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Then the people were simpler and kinder.

          This is not to take away. And today the people in the village are somehow kinder than the urban ones. I do not argue with that. Although there are nuances too ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 26 May 2020 16: 46 New
            -1
            Quote: Hagen
            But 70 years spent almost every summer in the village. The eye caught both drunkenness and mismanagement, the yield of wheat was two buckets more sown.

            Well, the 70s, of course, were not an indicator, everything went down the hedgehog. And it depended on the regions. In our Transbaikalia people were stronger, and when parents arrived in the Smolensk region. there already people relaxed ..
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 26 May 2020 16: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Hagen
            And for those who still didn’t show up, a special team went with a box and ballots, in which one last name

            When I was working in the trawl fleet in the 70s, the office was under 3000 people, the elections were held in the "Pentagon". Already at 7 am in the dining room a buffet was opened with a selection of everything alcohol-containing, from beer to cognac. We are young, after yesterday's walk in hot places, of course, were in the forefront of the voters. Where it was possible at 7 in the morning, in a calm atmosphere, with your "sidekicks whips", without hurrying (having voted) to sit at a table full of champagne, for the stronger one went badly after yesterday. It was a good time. And then, by order from the top, they banned all alcoholic drinks everywhere, even beer, as well as at enterprises. After that, we stopped going to the polls altogether.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 26 May 2020 17: 09 New
              0
              Quote: tihonmarine
              And then, on orders from the top, everything was banned everywhere, even beer, as well as in enterprises. After that, we stopped going to the polls altogether.

              Did I say something else? I also live in this country, and I see how much money is poured into election events. Not so cheap as it seems to the "naked" eye. laughing
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 26 May 2020 17: 17 New
                -1
                Quote: Hagen
                Not so cheap as it seems to the "naked" eye.

                Cheap could be a kilogram of sprat for 31 kopecks. buy, and everything else is already expensive.
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 26 May 2020 17: 59 New
                  -5
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Cheap could be a kilogram of sprat for 31 kopecks. buy, and everything else is already expensive.

                  On average, elections cost the country's budget about 200 per site. Or almost 000 billion rubles for the whole country. Does it make sense to save at least half, do you think?
    3. depressant
      depressant 26 May 2020 12: 46 New
      +7
      I found something similar in my village in the 10s, when there was still a semblance of elections. The population was active. And yes, there was music and a buffet with the sale of sweets, voters came to the vote by families. But as soon as the mayoral elections were falsified, and the village was small, you can’t hide the fact, the falsification was widely dispersed, subjected to evil ridicule to the point that they stopped greeting the mayor on the street, the holiday quietly wilted. Now let's stop greeting the nullified president?
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 26 May 2020 15: 35 New
        -3
        Quote: depressant
        But as soon as the mayoral election was falsified, and the village was small, you cannot hide the fact

        This incident is not verified. It was, wasn’t, it’s possible to say such a thing ... The Brothers Grim will not drink for a week ... As you know, a particular example proves nothing and refutes nothing. I think you are in the know ...
        1. depressant
          depressant 26 May 2020 16: 34 New
          +4
          Hagen colleague, I do not lie, I do not need. Two fought for the post: the mayor, who worked one term, and the head of the local council of deputies. The one and the other showed up in corruption, but people usually get angry at the one who has already snatched his own and insolently wants more. However, the mayor found approaches to the regional authorities, and the local election commission received orders to ensure victory for the former mayor, and not the head of the council. But when they counted the ballots, they burst into tears: almost equally! And then ballots for the mayor were thrown in - you will laugh! - in the amount of 9 pieces: the guards voted and members of the commission. And since everyone is local, it means friends to someone, everything became known the next morning. The people came out with sarcasm, but those ballots that turned out to be decisive were legal. Did members of the commission and the guards have the right to vote like that? Had. Because sarcasm quickly faded. But the question remained: why are we imputed unclean persons as candidates? By the way, both were from EP. In the same positions to this day. The people are tired and wilted. Ignores both, considering them to be strangers. Directly an incurable disease, a virus.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 26 May 2020 16: 52 New
            -4
            Quote: depressant
            Hagen colleague, I do not lie, I do not need.

            Your truth will remain on your conscience, and believe me, I am not going to convict you of anything. We may in good faith err or perceive incomplete information. That is not the point. But the point is that a single case cannot be a reflection of the systematic nature of the phenomenon. Especially in issues such as the motivation of political activity even in small communities. It can be both a manifestation of the system, and an exception to it.
            1. depressant
              depressant 26 May 2020 17: 37 New
              +4
              And the systematic nature of the phenomenon is that there have been no mayoral elections in my village for a long time. They were canceled. The mayor is the same old one. I don't know if there will be a local council. I suspect that there will be no regional elections for the head of the administration. Our district is now an urban district. Last time we voted for regional deputies. When an athlete is not exercising, he loses shape. We are deprived of elections, we are losing civic skills. That subconsciously alienates the people from the state. Maybe this is what they want. So that they do not get confused under the feet of the supreme power, which is implementing, perhaps, an erroneous internal political course. Like, why worry? This is not your business - royal! And - the trivial "the bosses know better." Only for some reason the imperious gentlemen see exclusively their own well-being, and not ours in the form of a powerful industry and agriculture that produce everything and give everyone any jobs. Yes, there is a lot to say. One thing is clear: we do not intersect.
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 26 May 2020 17: 50 New
                -4
                Quote: depressant
                And the systematic nature of the phenomenon is that there have been no elections of the mayor in my village for a long time.

                And what's so terrible about this? The Local Government Act allows for a variety of governance methods. There may be direct elections of the mayor, deputies from their composition can choose the mayor (but they are all elected). The leadership of the Duma can attract the so-called city manager. It depends on how it is written in the charter. Do you know the charter of your settlement or city? There is also the procedure for amending the charter. See 131FZ, everything is there. What kind of questions are these naive? ... In your questions and complaints, excuse me, there are more vagaries than real issues. In any case, from the outside it is so seen.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 26 May 2020 10: 51 New
    +6
    Coronavirus permanently planted us in houses and apartments?

    And maybe the truth, forever? More than three do not gather, do not breathe on each other ... recourse
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 26 May 2020 11: 13 New
      +8
      In-in ... and the National Guard is not needed, there is no one to disperse, and if necessary, it is also remotely. laughing
      With zeroing us, dear fellow citizens! Survived ... request
  • GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 26 May 2020 10: 51 New
    +4
    Quote: ZAV69
    The author is not given rest by only one point, about zeroing. But in the village the author was not even close to drive up.

    On TV, the author of the village saw .... On a scooter, from the mountain ..... laughing
    1. dauria
      dauria 26 May 2020 16: 35 New
      0
      On TV, the author of the village saw .... On a scooter, from the mountain ....


      Looks like the author is older than mammoths. In 1968 mamkin-papkin is a big adult "under the frame" of little boys - first graders. Sometimes senior pupils have Minsk, or even Voskhod, not without exception, of course, but they did. Scooter on bearings, but without asphalt laughing
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 26 May 2020 11: 00 New
    +8
    voting with us is a smoke screen ... a disguise ... so that no one understands or guesses ... they want everyone to know ...
  • faterdom
    faterdom 26 May 2020 11: 03 New
    +2
    You don’t understand, there is such ... no, not a profession, thing? No, perhaps not a thing ... Substance? Again no ... World broadcast ...
    In short, sacredness.
    It lies in the fact that the brain of a normal layman is not able to accommodate everything that we would like (few RAM, not that number of dimensions of space, but why else) - agnosticism, in short, complete. How many do not study, live at least ten lives - you will not overcome.
    Therefore, you just need to remember: "All power is from God!"
    You should not think about it, analyze something there, especially to understand her actions - there is no need!
    The question is in the methods. In ancient Egypt, this fact was confirmed by priests, for whom there was a thousand-year-old knowledge (you can’t argue with them!), The Hellenes confirmed this fact as part of the phalanx, the Romans - by maniples and cohorts, they even came across disagreeing (Jews, they say we already there is God, and more than one is not allowed according to the state), which were scattered with an iron hand around the world.
    Further, the Pope / Patriarch is a witness, depending on whether it is west or east.
    Well, democracy is even cooler: if a particular Pope / Patriarch can be suspected of trough playing along, then "The voice of the people is the voice of God!" - go and refute!
    And given technological progress, electronic voting:
    1. Dramatically speeds things up.
    2. It greatly reduces the cost of business.
    3. The result does not depend on the form of voting, because it lies in unscientific areas (see "Sacrality")
    1. depressant
      depressant 26 May 2020 13: 02 New
      +6
      Dear colleague, don't take God's name in vain! Do not mix! And if we speak in your words, then God created us in his own image and likeness. And if something fits in his brain, then it will fit with us. And I don’t think that “sacred” Putin has more brains than me (don’t consider it blasphemy!). Putin has more information - so let him share. I'm only afraid that this information can be reduced to one thing: give me, finally, an unaccountable opportunity in the next decades to pull the National Welfare Fund and the surplus part of the budget in favor of my friends, give it, give it !!! Give and leave behind. In a word, a fierce triviality that I have been observing for 20 years.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 May 2020 13: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: faterdom
      The result does not depend on the form of voting, because it lies in unscientific areas, (see "Sacrality")

      Then I remembered one last anecdote, "The president comes to work and asks the secretary what news about the elections, she answers, there are two news, good and bad, well, start with good news. You were elected president again, but bad, no one voted for you."
  • Sobol
    Sobol 26 May 2020 11: 12 New
    0
    Well, take it, but go with your legs. If the electronic way is not nice. What is the problem then? Personally, I will choose the time and go.
    1. unaha
      unaha 26 May 2020 11: 43 New
      +4
      The problem is the total distrust of the organizers. If a paper ballot can be spoiled, then how to disavow an electronic one? And it will not turn out, accordingly, that those who did not come to the polling stations "vote" electronically without their knowledge? Moreover, how to make sure that exactly what was "pressed" was counted ... While there are no implementation details, there are many such questions. And there is no certainty that these details will be there either.
      It is probably possible to solve this by storing the results in an open-source blockchain and independent examination and giving up voting "secrecy".
      1. Sobol
        Sobol 26 May 2020 13: 56 New
        0
        Quote: unaha
        The problem is the total distrust of the organizers. If a paper ballot can be spoiled, then how to disavow an electronic one? And it will not turn out, accordingly, that those who did not come to the polling stations "vote" electronically without their knowledge? Moreover, how to make sure that exactly what was "pressed" was counted ... While there are no implementation details, there are many such questions. And there is no certainty that these details will be there either.
        It is probably possible to solve this by storing the results in an open-source blockchain and independent examination and giving up voting "secrecy".

        Therefore, I wrote that "Personally, I will choose the time and go"
        1. unaha
          unaha 26 May 2020 14: 01 New
          0
          It is right.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 26 May 2020 11: 19 New
    +2
    Author, you see the root. In the electronic banking concentration camp from the Fed without electronic voting do not! How to calculate social rating?
    The elections will be from morning to night. It’s not right to choose something, someone made - minus points, right - get plus points.
    So, the author, your grandmother and you can only envy, it’s not long for you .., but they’ll insert something young and they will have ELECTRONIC happiness with augmented reality
    in the form of a rustic feuilleton ...
    1. ZAV69
      ZAV69 26 May 2020 19: 43 New
      0
      Uncle Liao is already a reality, so it’s not funny. By the way, we have already come close to this. s and Europeans too, even closer.
  • Yuri Stepanov
    Yuri Stepanov 26 May 2020 11: 24 New
    +6
    It looks like "they" took the movie "The Sphere" with Tom Hanks as a guide to action.
  • flicker
    flicker 26 May 2020 11: 28 New
    -7
    Hmm, it was conceived as a feuilleton for electronic voting - but it turned out feuilleton for feuilleton. recourse
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 26 May 2020 11: 46 New
    +4
    I meet our sun, wild, free, and not urban, refined.

    The sun has drowned out, its rays shattered through the white light. Old Romualditch sniffed his footcloth and already became enchanted.
    All the classics .... laughing
  • prior
    prior 26 May 2020 11: 56 New
    +5
    The country is becoming more and more immersed in the electronic messy.
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 26 May 2020 12: 09 New
    +7
    a lot, I have questions for this very vote by e-mail. But the biggest question is just one. Why are you in such a hurry? Coronavirus permanently planted us in houses and apartments?


    Everyone has been going to work for a long time, shopping, and everywhere, wherever your heart desires ..
    Only the very sick "stay in their homes", of which no more than 1 percent of the country's population.
    So going to the polling station and voting doesn’t bother anyone at all .. Just like another trip to the Magnet for bread !!

    Now turn on the head and think ..
    Why are you in such a hurry ..
    Why did you need to stir up this at all ..
    And where do the ears of all these viruses, isolations, and other prohibitions grow from ..
    1. Altona
      Altona 26 May 2020 12: 38 New
      +7
      Quote: Roman123567
      Everyone has been going to work for a long time, shopping, and everywhere, wherever your heart desires ..
      Only the very sick "stay in their homes", of which no more than 1 percent of the country's population.

      --------------------
      Anecdote in the topic:
      From around the world, reports are coming that the coronavirus is on the decline. I'm sorry, are we winning or are people already ending?
    2. AUL
      AUL 26 May 2020 13: 01 New
      +8
      Quote: Roman123567
      Everyone has been going to work for a long time, shopping, and everywhere, wherever your heart desires ..

      Have you already buried those over 65?
      Today I had to go from my village to the nearest city. At the bank (withdraw cash and pay utilities), at the pharmacy, drop it on the phone. Because we did not have ATMs, there were no pharmacies either, and the terminal for payments in the only stall in the entire village was reliably ditched for a long time. On a regular bus - do not let go! In the minibus, the chef glanced disapprovingly, but did not drive out - thanks! In the city, with short dashes, my wife and I scurried to the bank, then to the pharmacy, looking around so as not to catch the eye of the valiant servants of the law. Although they were masked and gloved. Thank God it cost ... But you would only know how humiliating it was!
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 14: 44 New
        -4
        What religion does not allow you to pay for utilities through the online banking application and also pay for mobile communications. Without getting off the couch. Bring problems to yourself, overcome them bravely. 21st century in the yard, ay!
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 26 May 2020 19: 56 New
          0
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          What religion does not allow you to pay for utilities through the online banking application and also pay for mobile communications.

          Will the Russian post send pills?
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 20: 08 New
            -2
            The tablets will be sent by Pharmacy Ru or Pharmacy. And cheaper than in a regular pharmacy. And no lines and social distances.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 26 May 2020 20: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              The tablets will be sent by Pharmacy Ru or Pharmacy. And cheaper than in a regular pharmacy. And no lines and social distances.

              That is, if I have constipation, and I needed gutalax-relieved you, then I order pills and painfully wait for Uncle Pechkin to bring them to me ...
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 20: 20 New
                -2
                Constipation is wherever you go, and with diarrhea you may not reach the pharmacy.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 26 May 2020 20: 47 New
                  +1
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  and with diarrhea you can’t run to the pharmacy.

                  And with diarrhea, you don’t have to run anywhere. It’s better to sit quietly in the outhouse.
        2. AUL
          AUL 26 May 2020 19: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          What religion does not allow you to pay for utilities through the online banking application and also pay for mobile communications.

          You know, I have an old Philips, and it suits me perfectly! Imagine living without a smartphone! And by the way, I’m not alone.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 20: 14 New
            -1
            Through the personal account of the bank's client from the desktop, no, no way? Without any smartphone, if you’re so technically advanced. Although through the appropriate application is much more convenient.
      2. Roman123567
        Roman123567 26 May 2020 15: 10 New
        -1
        Have you already buried those over 65?


        I do not understand the question..
        My parents have long been pensioners .. go shopping .. do not hide ..

        It means "To the bank (withdraw cash and pay for housing and communal services), to the pharmacy, throw it on the phone.", You can use buses and minibuses .. do not be afraid ..))
        And to vote near the house, to go for 2 minutes - the authorities do not want to let you (and us) ..
        Logics??)
        1. AUL
          AUL 26 May 2020 20: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Roman123567
          I do not understand the question..
          My parents have long been pensioners .. go shopping .. do not hide ..

          I am happy for your parents! But in the suburbs to whom over 65 - as if outlawed. In the buses we are down, penny. cards are blocked, and cash on buses is no longer accepted. In the minibus - depending on the mood drove, has the right not to let. If caught on the street away from home - they can heat up to 4 (there have been cases). And the rest, a beautiful marquise ...
    3. ZAV69
      ZAV69 26 May 2020 19: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Roman123567
      And where do the ears of all these viruses, isolations, and other prohibitions grow from ..

      From Fort Detrick it’s possible
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 26 May 2020 12: 09 New
    +9
    Another attempt to gently remove the secret of choice. By the way, combining the work of KOIB with a mandatory camera at a polling station already, in general, reveals for the state who and how to vote in personalities (or makes it possible that the essence is the same)
    Voting through a mobile phone will give the authorities more flexible and vague possibilities of falsification - and this is a very relevant measure in the light of today, because the authorities have systematically lost a significant share of the traditional pension-pre-retirement electorate over the past year and a half.
  • kpd
    kpd 26 May 2020 12: 11 New
    +6
    I still have not been able to access the "Gosuslugi" site. When registering, they require you to provide a mobile phone number or e-mail, otherwise I cannot purchase property, only rent. When asked if I can use a passport rented for a couple of days, eyes bulge at me, but the rented phone number is all right.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 26 May 2020 15: 38 New
      0
      Is it hard for you to get an email?
      1. kpd
        kpd 26 May 2020 19: 51 New
        -1
        It is not difficult to start, but to do it so as not to lose mail at the will of the provider - this is already harder.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 20: 05 New
          0
          I have already registered mail accounts on Rambler and Yandex for about 20 years now. Nothing is missing. I have been using my mobile number for more than 20 years: the number does not change, even though you crack.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 27 May 2020 04: 47 New
          0
          I’ve been using it for 15 years, no problem.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 15: 56 New
      0
      Email account rental? Thanks, neighing! Access to public services is done in 5-10 minutes. Getting EDS is a bit longer.
      1. kpd
        kpd 26 May 2020 19: 52 New
        -1
        Read the user agreement, everything about the provision of e-mail services is painted there.
    3. ZAV69
      ZAV69 26 May 2020 19: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: kpd
      I still have not been able to access the "Gosuslugi" site. When registering, they require you to provide a mobile phone number or e-mail, otherwise I cannot purchase property, only rent. When asked if I can use a passport rented for a couple of days, eyes bulge at me, but the rented phone number is all right.

      Lovely man, take off your cross or pants or put on your pants.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 26 May 2020 12: 14 New
    +9
    I liked how the article was written, I would say - tasty, I haven’t read any good feuilletons.
    In fact, in the first place, it will not be an election, but a farce with a vaudeville. And secondly, our government is now so far from "normalcy" that there are no words.
  • Not_invented
    Not_invented 26 May 2020 12: 27 New
    +2
    The electronic voting system must have open source code so that anyone can compare the work of the one through which everyone votes with the declared one and make sure of identity, no fraud and the possibility of hacking. And then it turns out that the system’s code is closed, and it, in addition, twists the votes in favor of candidates from a certain party ...
    This (publication of the system source code), of course, will not be done. Therefore, it is known where the votes for the "wrong" candidates will go.
    1. ZAV69
      ZAV69 26 May 2020 19: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Not_invented
      Electronic voting system

      Everything has been invented for a long time.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 26 May 2020 12: 29 New
    +4
    Quote: Crowe
    What do they think? In many villages there is no cellular communication at all, not all computers have telephones, how will people vote?

    So what, they promised every child a laptop for remote control. The truth is not given ....
    And then they promise everyone an iPhone. The truth will not be given again. They promise 30 years ... And the granny with pies is waiting for everything ...
  • Altona
    Altona 26 May 2020 12: 31 New
    +7
    If there are jokes, then let there be jokes.
  • iouris
    iouris 26 May 2020 12: 36 New
    -1
    Aspects that are significant specifically for the "military observer" have not been disclosed. It turns out propaganda.
  • Victorio
    Victorio 26 May 2020 12: 46 New
    -2
    to throw firewood, and not to understand specifically / positively / calmly / comprehensively in problems / events tradition in (I exclude military issues here). let off steam, pour from empty to empty, turn sour in wit and other. maybe these are rating / marketing steps? then yes, of course, but for now - go ahead!
    1. depressant
      depressant 26 May 2020 14: 45 New
      +5
      Victorio, what do you propose to understand? If the president, addressing the people, said that the world evil led by the United States (we will not remember the archons) began to actively influence our 5th column, namely the well-known oligarchs, the higher and middle officials in order to undermine the central political power , weaken the unity of the people, split Russia into meaningless small countries, that is, wipe my big country off the face of the planet, and it’s time for us to express solidarity with him, the president, in resisting evil with such a strange-looking vote, I would, perhaps, bought it. Yes, something is not bought to me. Kremlin secrets really got hold of. You will not be full of hints. And the fact that he will never turn to us with such speeches is clear as day. He is terribly far from the people. But close to the pack of our bloodsuckers. Sincerely believing that he controls them. Yeah, while they are unloading them from the budget and the NWF "for poverty" on the occasion of the economic crisis. Hoping that the crisis will pass, and the electronic coronavirus noose will forever move the population away from the possibility of interfering with the "Putin - top officials - oligarchs" scheme. He simply erases us by voting like an eraser. Leaving in his mind instead of us the very empty, which pours into the empty and back in his addresses to the people.
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 26 May 2020 21: 26 New
        -1
        Quote: depressant
        Victorio, what do you propose to sort out?

        ===
        above, on this thread, I counted 9 of your comments. very, very concerned about this topic, so full of political, discussion clubs, economic, sites, etc. at worst, since the local atmosphere is so fond of, go out on the proposal of creating a separate branch: economy, politics, power, village, Putin, .....
        I don’t know, in general, but this nagging is tired, organize into a party, or something.
        1. depressant
          depressant 27 May 2020 00: 02 New
          +2
          I know my place: I am not a politician, I am a layman. And the HE section that we are on is intended, among other things, to demonstrate the views, expectations and worries of ordinary citizens, which together determines our country's ability to adequately respond to external threats.
          And it’s not very ethical, colleague, to send any of the participants in the discussion to hell. It turns out that the president gives me the opportunity to speak out by voting, and you are depriving me of the word. Ah, how bad! )))
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 27 May 2020 10: 47 New
            +1
            Quote: depressant
            And it’s not very ethical, colleague, to send any of the participants in the discussion to hell.

            ===
            I am not sending. you asked, I answered. why "demonstrate" their views dozens of times, repeating the same thing in different guises, one is enough, probably. maybe the recommended special sections for like-minded people will be the very thing
  • The district
    The district 26 May 2020 13: 23 New
    0
    "Gentlemen", do not touch grandparents .. Do not want to vote, do not vote! Why are you so restless?
    Nothing is known yet, but the howl is already rising ...
    Let us live peacefully without this bullying!
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 26 May 2020 15: 36 New
      -2
      Will you live in peace? And your children and grandchildren? Should they also be put into this "calmness"?
      A joke (not me, but they will accuse me of something, although reposting or quoting the classics will already find the article):
      "- God, how long will it take until we begin to live like a human being?
      "If you wait, you won't."
  • veritas
    veritas 26 May 2020 14: 09 New
    +4
    In general, the vote would be canceled, why this farce. And so everything is clear.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 26 May 2020 15: 45 New
      0
      There was a short period in the PRC when the 1975 Constitution was in force. True, it was replaced by the 1979 Constitution, and then by the 1982 Constitution.) So, in the period from 1975 to 1979, the councils of people's representatives in the PRC were not elected, but were formed through "democratic consultations."
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 26 May 2020 14: 28 New
    +2
    The most fun is now, you can vote three times - once at the station, a second time by mail, and a third time remotely laughing and if anyone proves that you did so, then they spied on you and, accordingly, there is no question of any secret of voting bully
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 26 May 2020 16: 45 New
      -2
      Do you need a passport for Internet access agreements?
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 26 May 2020 16: 49 New
        -2
        Quote: EvilLion
        Do you need a passport for Internet access agreements?

        According to your passport, you can vote all three times based on newly adopted laws - learn the materiel hi
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 27 May 2020 08: 28 New
          -1
          Very naive assumption.
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 26 May 2020 20: 24 New
        +1
        Without a passport, online coupons are not for sale.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 26 May 2020 15: 25 New
    +1
    Everything secret becomes apparent, including elections
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 26 May 2020 16: 45 New
    -2
    An attempt to joke is not counted. : - |
  • vit670
    vit670 26 May 2020 17: 36 New
    +5
    The people are in favor of the authorities! Advertise on TV only those amendments that are beneficial to them. And where is the advertisement for the amendment to zero the deadlines for Putin? They advertise a ban on having accounts abroad. Why don't they say that the State Duma deputies voted against the amendment to own real estate abroad? This is not a betrayal, is it? You can't have accounts, but villas, yachts, apartments, families over the hill can do it !!! All this fuss with the Constitution is started with the sole purpose of leaving Putin's rule for life, no matter what they hide behind! This is another 10-15 years of degradation and living of the people in poverty. After all, the current authorities are concerned only with how to come up with new taxes and levies, and not with the development of the country. It is not the flower of the nation that comes to power, but the scum whose purpose is to grab and flee abroad, since all of them already have a "spare airfield" of the family, capital and real estate abroad. Many already have foreign citizenship in their pockets!
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 27 May 2020 08: 32 New
      -2
      We have Stalin rules for 33 years, does this not cause any problems for you?

      As for real estate abroad, we have a bunch of people who want to have it and have it. Unlike accounts that can be instantly closed and easy to hide, real estate is a rather dubious asset.
  • Grading
    Grading 26 May 2020 18: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    Yesterday with might and main on the first channel nightingale trills were flooded about the last remote call on a remote site.

    And our team of shift workers came to one enterprise. Also, everyone was gossiping, why the hell will they be bothering us for two weeks !!! Someone from the management scratched the turnip and decided, exactly, why this quarantine, maybe it will carry it anyway. As a result, several hundred people were hospitalized, some settlements were blocked, several enterprises were shut down ... But you can laugh at the "remote calls". Why, Solovyov washes our brain, and that one !!!

    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 27 May 2020 08: 33 New
      -2
      Riots, or rather mass actions were in the USSR. Only under Stalin, these issues were resolved, and under Khrushchev people were shot. We, it seems, are still closer to Stalin's time.
  • Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 26 May 2020 18: 22 New
    +3
    - We have gentlemen accept to take a word.
    - That's where the card went to me !!! (with)
    This is me about "electronic voting" - as always with us, "the most honest". Yeah ...
  • Blondy
    Blondy 26 May 2020 21: 26 New
    0
    Something really overshadowed our leadership, went into all seriousities to urgently push the amendments. In principle, I am not against corrections, but to drag any crap like a state-forming nation into the constitution is too much. It sounds, of course, beautiful and powerful ... And if you think about it - how is it? The Russians formed the Russian Empire (multinational), but in the Soviet Union Jews became state-forming, since in the Bolshevik leadership that carried out the revolution, or a coup (as you like) there were most of them. I'm not talking about the modern Russian Federation, which was created by the multinational Soviet co-conglomerate with a liberal-democratic, kleptocratic bias. And they want to blame such authenticity of self-identification on the already long-suffering Russian people.
  • 1536
    1536 27 May 2020 08: 45 New
    -1
    Along with the Enter (Yes / Yes, "for") command, computers have a Return (Revert / Cancel) command, i.e. undo the previous command, or a whole chain of wrong commands. The person understood that he had made a mistake, made a wrong action, chose the wrong thing, voted for the wrong thing, and clicks on the "Cancel" button. As soon as a "critical mass" of such cancellations is created, the previous results are immediately canceled. Nevertheless, everything should be within reason, within the framework of ordinary human logic.
  • tolancop
    tolancop 27 May 2020 12: 07 New
    +3
    Why, why ..... And then, that with electronics any result to draw problems does not deliver. And you don’t have any observers, protocols with recounts and other interference ...
    But why such a rush is a question of questions ...
  • aglet
    aglet 28 May 2020 18: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: your1970
    Well, in the 90s - our rector changed Mercedes every year ...

    well, that is, did you pay for exams?
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