How in the USA, arms stores were equated to the essential infrastructure in a pandemic


The United States, indeed, has its own unique specifics in absolutely any matter. At a time when the rest of the world, with the onset of the “dark days” of the pandemic, the population rushed through pharmacies in search of protective masks and medicines, and long-term products and toilet paper were flushed from supermarket shelves, the Americans lined up to weapons shops. No, they also did not forget about hygiene products and a bottle of good whiskey, but the acquisition of "something gunshot" was in the first place for many.


It is still difficult to make an accurate assessment of how much sales of “civilian” weapons have increased there during the pandemic and the introduction of quarantine restrictions there. The data coming from different states for different time periods sometimes differ quite noticeably. So, Virginia is reporting about a nearly double increase in those wishing to obtain permission to buy weapons in January, North Carolina about an increase of 180%, Georgia - 170%. In February, the number of those who were tested at the FBI base (that is, nationwide) exceeded 3 and a half million, setting an absolute record. Some online stores of the corresponding profile boast of an increase in sales of 200-300%, and some say a fourfold increase.

Armory Lobby


To a large extent, the "explosive" growth of the arms business was facilitated by the activities of such a highly respected and authoritative organization in the USA as the National Rifle Association of America. The lobbying weight of this powerful structure in the highest political circles of Washington is so great that as soon as the lawmakers there hinted at closing the quarantine of weapons stores, an angry shout immediately followed: "Are you crazy?" The poor congressmen immediately came to their senses and quickly ranked sales outlets for the sale of deadly goods as “essential infrastructure” and allowed their work, despite all the restrictions.

The very decision to equate arms stores with the infrastructure of "essentials" for us looks like nonsense. But this is the USA ... The arms lobby is one of the leading places in the country, extending to leading government agencies. Hence the fact that presidential candidates usually speak of toughening legislation in this direction. As soon as they come to the White House after the victory in the elections, they hear at least less from them about toughening the laws of arms, or even not at all.

Buyer Categories


Most of all, the demand for “trunks” took off in the states that were most affected by the pandemic - New York, Illinois, Florida, Pennsylvania, as well as, which is typical in the “outback”, inhabited mainly by farmers. These have long been accustomed to rely on themselves and their own "assistant" of the appropriate caliber. Well, Texas - everything is traditional here ... The most popular, especially among residents of big cities, are the short-barreled weapons - pistols and revolvers, mainly with a 9 mm caliber. Some of them, for example, the widely publicized Glock of the most common models, are almost impossible to buy. The next in the list of "hits" of sales is AR-15 - a semi-automatic civilian copy of the army M-16. Good old pump-action shotguns are in third place and are in demand mainly on the periphery. Practically nobody takes a “classic” for hunting - they are obviously not going to shoot at rabbits and deer ...

However, quite eloquently the same is evidenced by the data of anonymous express polls, which they manage to carry out in the long lines to the cherished doors of the arms stores of the ubiquitous local journalists. The vast majority of buyers honestly admit that they are worried about their personal and property security, when millions of their fellow citizens are left without work every day, and in general "everything falls apart." Not everyone believes in the ability of the police in a pandemic to respond quickly and effectively to emerging threats. Many Americans quite realistically assume that it will come to riots, starvation riots and rampant looting. With a “barrel” in hand in such a situation, it is somehow more reliable, as ordinary Americans believe.

A separate category of buyers is people of Asian descent with an appropriate appearance. It doesn’t matter that this is already the second or third generation of those who came to the USA from Vietnam, Japan or the same China — in the wake of xenophobia intensely “unwound” by Washington and ridiculous accusations like the “Chinese virus”, these people are quite justifiably afraid for their lives, being afraid that “in which case” their houses will become the first objects of pogroms. Obediently, many of them are completely not going to play the role of sacrificial scapegoats.

The "coronavirus weapons" has several more characteristic features. For example, the fact that this time those who previously and in their thoughts did not keep having weapons at home massively reached the shelves of stores of the corresponding profile. Many such purchasers raise serious fears among experts who sell them the deadly goods about who the weapons in their inept hands would be dangerous for. Another detail - for the first time in stories US citizens almost without exception rushed to replenish and create "home arsenals" in connection with the outbreak of the disease. Earlier, something similar happened most often after the next president’s speech, declaring his intentions to tighten the rules on gun ownership or some kind of mass "shooting" like a tragedy at Sandy Hook School.

Together with pistols, rifles and shotguns, the Americans literally row clean their ammunition. In some outlets, it even comes to the introduction of “one-handed” vacation restrictions. Sellers laugh heartily: "Yes, they can’t shoot so much in their entire lives!" Who knows ... We, as Russian people, will recall the great words of the great Chekhov about the gun hanging on the wall in the first act ... A pandemic in the United States will sooner or later decline. But the most severe economic crisis with all its “charms” seems to be just beginning. And not only in the USA. Will he not become that "second act" in which the gun "hanging overhead" will be fired?
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  1. Sergey39 25 May 2020 20: 28 New
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    The revolutionary explosion foresees the people. The ghost of communism roams the United States.
    1. dauria 25 May 2020 20: 46 New
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      The ghost of communism roams the United States.


      So that's why they have trunks - to shoot back from the ghost of communism. laughing Well, maybe lucky, they’ll shoot at last. Pinned ahead of time, feed him.
      1. Vladimir_2U 26 May 2020 05: 22 New
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        Quote: dauria
        shoot back from the ghost of communism

        Wimps, it’s easy to drink to ghosts, but to drink to a coronavirus at least the size of a dog is much harder! But then you can shoot them in the millions! So win! laughing
    2. Kuroneko 26 May 2020 07: 48 New
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      No, they also did not forget about hygiene products and a bottle of good whiskey, but the acquisition of "something gunshot" was in the first place for many.

      Not, most likely outplayed by the most indulge in zombie shooters. = _ =
  2. rocket757 25 May 2020 20: 30 New
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    Big business, very big.
    1. NEXUS 25 May 2020 20: 46 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Big business, very big.

      No, rather, the big world performance is bloody ... and very well planned ..
      Event 201 (eng. Event 201) - pandemic exercises conducted by Johns Hopkins University 18 2019 October, the with the participation of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the World Economic Forum.

      The author of the pandemic simulation model is American scientist Eric Toner, a senior fellow at the Center for Health Safety at Hopkins University. Evryl Haines, Martin Knuchel, George Fu Gao, Adrian Thomas and Stephen C. Redd also participated in the study group.

      During the game, the process of spreading a pandemic of a new zoonotic coronavirus, first transmitted from bats to pigs and then to humans, was simulated. Brazilian farms were recognized as the focus of infection. In the human population, infection was carried out by airborne droplets, as well as with handshakes and other tactile contacts. Tourists carry the disease across the oceans. A feature of the virus was the lack of an effective vaccine and selective mortality, mainly associated with individuals whose immunity is weakened. A hypothetical virus should look like a flu virus or SARS. In 18 months, he must destroy 65 million people around the world. The pandemic begins to slow due to a decrease in the number of susceptible people. The pandemic will continue until an effective vaccine appears or until 80–90% of the world's population is infected. From this point on, it is likely to become an endemic childhood illness. At the same time, the global economy will collapse by 11%

      That is, a MONTH before the epidemic, these gentlemen practiced and simulated. In this case, the outbreak of the coronovirus was worked out. Not the mumps, not the plague, not the anthrax, but the coronovirus.
      1. rocket757 25 May 2020 21: 35 New
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        what can one think, suppose ... from an elementary ability to analyze and predict, to a world conspiracy.
        covered all, already in real life, and now it is precisely with this that you will have to somehow cope, correct old mistakes and try not to produce new ones.
        1. NEXUS 25 May 2020 21: 43 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          to a world conspiracy.


          Maybe a conspiracy ... none of them will tell us about this.
          1. rocket757 25 May 2020 21: 59 New
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            Big things \ affairs are planned \ are discussed in the quiet of the offices ... without unnecessary access from the outside.
          2. Sidor Amenpodestovich 26 May 2020 07: 19 New
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            Quote: NEXUS
            none of them will tell us about it

            And they’re doing it right. Since the vast majority of just a little panic and hysteria.
  3. Courier 25 May 2020 20: 35 New
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    The second amendment of the US Constitution guarantees the right of Americans to store and carry weapons.
    Not a word about this, only the arms lobby.
    1. GMM
      GMM 25 May 2020 21: 01 New
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      And we still do not have all the regions, the federal law on the unhindered collection of deadwood works. It is necessary to take inquiries at the places, or notify the authorities in advance of the collection, or upon the completion of the collection to invite inspectors to draw up the necessary papers, that it was a dead wood ... But somewhere, the local authorities did not adopt legislative acts to clearly divide the dead wood and dead wood, in the latter case, they can be planted for its collection.
      1. Deck 26 May 2020 07: 25 New
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        And we still do not have all the regions, the federal law on the unhindered collection of deadwood works.


        This is a direct consequence of the lack of a Russian analogue of the second amendment! That's what you need to write in the constitution, and not be reset to zero.
    2. Quadro 30 May 2020 19: 51 New
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      Quote: Courier
      The second amendment of the US Constitution guarantees the right of Americans to store and carry weapons.
      Not a word about this, only the arms lobby.

      Oh yes, how can it be without local worship of the local constitution of pendosia. That's only in many states the restrictions are much tougher than ours, but in the EU everything with this is sad and not at all. The constitution was not written by the gods, but by people, which means they twist it as you like. All this holy worship for the constitution among Americans is Hollywood tales. This book is already more than 150 years old, it was written under the fact of apartheid, slavery and when it was a vital necessity to have a revolver in your pocket. I hope this herd begins to shoot each other, although they will not climb to us, they will take care of their problems.
  4. knn54 25 May 2020 20: 39 New
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    You can still understand, but the presence on the Russian list of a bookmaker is, to put it mildly. Perplexing.
    1. Pvi1206 25 May 2020 21: 03 New
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      by no means ... it seems that these are sponsors of the government ...
    2. polar fox 26 May 2020 09: 03 New
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      Quote: knn54
      but the presence in the Russian list of the bookmaker is, to put it mildly. perplexing.

      Well, why, just someone from friends or relatives in a share of small ...
  5. paul3390 25 May 2020 20: 40 New
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    Well - we put in front of the type of self-isolation, too, dare cartridges .. And the trunks - the benefit is that it is not so easy to buy them from us as in the USA. But the cartridges - people almost took bags .. For example, 9 R.A. to traumatism - there were absolutely none, 7.62x39 - only the cheapest BPZ remained. Well and so on ..
  6. Maks1995 25 May 2020 20: 47 New
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    Yes, Pandemics are 3 months old, and where are these boasted Chinese pogroms in the US?
  7. GMM
    GMM 25 May 2020 20: 47 New
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    To limit Americans in the possibility of acquiring weapons will be comparable in terms of indignation of ordinary people and the consequences for the authorities with our allowable retirement of 100 years.
    No, we swallow it. Probably akin to banning us from celebrating Victory Day ... Damn, we were banned two weeks ago and we didn't even say anything.
    In short, a ban on weapons and states kirdyk!
    1. Quadro 30 May 2020 19: 55 New
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      Maybe you stop writing dumb populist nonsense? Do you even know that the parade was postponed, but not banned? Nobody forbade you to celebrate it, to congratulate veterans. How many veterans did you congratulate and generally helped them around May 9? But the throats all tear for the parade. The populists are rotten. You don’t even know that in the USA in many states the arms legislation is even stricter than ours.
  8. Pvi1206 25 May 2020 21: 01 New
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    will be something to shoot back from the police ...
  9. Nyrobsky 25 May 2020 21: 05 New
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    Good people in the United States, and most importantly friendly. winked Weapons and ammunition were picked up so that they could shoot each other tightly, otherwise you never know who would hide behind a pinch of salt angry
    1. Monster_Fat 26 May 2020 00: 02 New
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      Different people live in the USA. But this people lives according to its own laws. customs, and not afraid to remind others of their observance.
      1. Nyrobsky 26 May 2020 00: 41 New
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        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Different people live in the USA. But this people lives according to its own laws. customs, and not afraid to remind others of their observance.

        There is no people there, there is a population that is smiling fiercely deceitfully at each other, stroking the handle of a pistol in his pocket and waiting for an opportunity to reassure his neighbor, not to mention representatives of the true indigenous peoples driven into the reservation.
        1. Revival 26 May 2020 00: 52 New
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          There are just people
          1. Nyrobsky 26 May 2020 20: 40 New
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            Quote: Revival
            There are just people

            And why then are you tormented by comments? We have a large part of home-grown liberotas and near-cultural figures, who, as a rule, are also more worried about their "people" than about the Russian people, because they believe that they were not lucky with their people. Are you not from their camp by chance?
            1. Revival 27 May 2020 00: 48 New
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              I'm just not worried about their people
        2. Revolver 26 May 2020 08: 56 New
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          Quote: Nyrobsky
          not to mention the representatives of the true indigenous peoples driven into the reservation.

          Do you even know what a reservation is? This is a place not subject to federal and state laws. In particular, excise taxes on gasoline, tobacco, and alcohol, and prohibitions on gambling. Therefore, the Indians are building a casino and rowing loot. Well essno leaders and those close to them get fucking, and by the way much less. The casinos work mainly white, because the free hunter or warrior is going to “do what you like” badly, for this the Great Manitou will not let him into the world of eternal hunting, while white is boring in paradise and it’s hot in hell. Performers of folk dance songs need a little, and not everyone has talent. So the majority of the population of the reservation from idleness is drunk or stinks. Of course, the reservation is not a prison, anyone can leave it at any time, but outside it immediately becomes the subject of state laws and taxation, and loses those payments that the leaders give out to their bounties to ordinary Indians. And consider no education, no profession, so where? Although whoever wants and can, they make their way, the Indians are happy to take both to study and to work, if they are at least minimally consistent, to show how racial equality is observed in this college, company, or institution - here, we even have Indians !
          1. ycuce234-san 28 May 2020 09: 03 New
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            free hunter or warrior


            This is strange and inexpedient from the point of view of managing human resources and living standards: it is more logical to open centers of any army and reservist training in reservations, which is more consistent with the mentality of their inhabitants and almost does not depend on local resources, but rather depends on the topography and climate as preparation conditions to climate and topography. Taxes then simply move from one state pocket to another state pocket. And almost all young Indians will master the initial profession of an “instructor for preparing for something there”, and further - advanced training, study, career ...
          2. Quadro 30 May 2020 20: 02 New
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            Quote: Nagan
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            not to mention the representatives of the true indigenous peoples driven into the reservation.

            Do you even know what a reservation is? This is a place not subject to federal and state laws. In particular, excise taxes on gasoline, tobacco, and alcohol, and prohibitions on gambling. Therefore, the Indians are building a casino and rowing loot. Well essno leaders and those close to them get fucking, and by the way much less. The casinos work mainly white, because the free hunter or warrior is going to “do what you like” badly, for this the Great Manitou will not let him into the world of eternal hunting, while white is boring in paradise and it’s hot in hell. Performers of folk dance songs need a little, and not everyone has talent. So the majority of the population of the reservation from idleness is drunk or stinks. Of course, the reservation is not a prison, anyone can leave it at any time, but outside it immediately becomes the subject of state laws and taxation, and loses those payments that the leaders give out to their bounties to ordinary Indians. And consider no education, no profession, so where? Although whoever wants and can, they make their way, the Indians are happy to take both to study and to work, if they are at least minimally consistent, to show how racial equality is observed in this college, company, or institution - here, we even have Indians !

            It’s just that they are drunk en masse, not only because of hopelessness, but also because they are being drunk with alcohol on benefits. They destroyed the people, and now they are finishing them off with preferential prices for booze and cigarettes, while keeping them on reservations in places where they can’t even deal with the economy properly. Ordinary Indians from the casino do not get anything, it’s ridiculous to read about how holy the laws are followed. Leaders put everything in their pocket and that's it. But then you can justify these Nazis of the 18-19th century, they say, uneducated Indians. And who took everything from them, including education? It reminds me of a fairy tale about "social elevators" in the USA, which are there only for the rich and who have acquaintances at the top.
      2. Revolver 26 May 2020 02: 55 New
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        Quote: Monster_Fat
        this people lives by its own laws. customs, and not afraid to remind others of their observance.

        good
        hi
  10. samarin1969 25 May 2020 21: 15 New
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    For Americans, the Great Depression is more terrible than World War II. On May 8, + 20 million unemployed is quite a real threat to life and property. Last week another +2,4 million. Unemployed are not zombies. But the American layman is trying to fight them in the spirit of the 30s and movies about cyberpunk.
    The Yankees do not seem to completely trust Trump's social assistance program.
    1. Liam 25 May 2020 21: 25 New
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      Quote: samarin1969
      For Americans, the Great Depression is more terrible than World War II. On May 8, + 20 million unemployed is quite a real threat to life and property. +2,4 million more last week

      Do not talk about things in which do not understand anything.
      In the United States, unemployment benefits are paid for those on unpaid leave, and about 80% of those who apply for unemployment now, as soon as quarantines are lifted, they will immediately go to work
      1. dali 29 May 2020 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Liam
        Do not talk about things in which do not understand anything.
        In the United States, unemployment benefits are paid for those on unpaid leave, and about 80% of those who apply for unemployment now, as soon as quarantines are lifted, they will immediately go to work

        Have you tried living on this allowance in the USA? belay
      2. Quadro 30 May 2020 20: 07 New
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        Quote: Liam
        Quote: samarin1969
        For Americans, the Great Depression is more terrible than World War II. On May 8, + 20 million unemployed is quite a real threat to life and property. +2,4 million more last week

        Do not talk about things in which do not understand anything.
        In the United States, unemployment benefits are paid for those on unpaid leave, and about 80% of those who apply for unemployment now, as soon as quarantines are lifted, they will immediately go to work

        Can you stop broadcasting pro-nonsense nonsense? Have you ever seen benefits? Have you seen any lines for a free ghost? With horseradish, are you so sure that they will return to work? Homeless people are not taken to work, many have already lost their homes due to debts. They hardly pay benefits, there are a lot of cases described in local news - they lost their jobs, they do not give unemployment benefits (plus you have to prove that you are unemployed), there is nothing to mortgage for a house and a car, as a result, in one of the stories, a woman with a child she barely received food stamps, they give coupons about $ 1-3, the UN threshold of poverty is $ 5. That is, the US government simply did not give a damn about everyone, and even does not pay unemployment benefits. But you impudent liar do not like to mention it.
  11. samarin1969 25 May 2020 21: 48 New
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    Quote: Liam
    they will immediately go to work

    It seems that the Americans are not sure about this.
    It is likely that quarantine will provoke a larger-scale crisis than "mortgage". I’m not “reasoning” about this, but the head of the IMF, BBS “Unemployment among Americans has broken all records since the Great Depression between the two world wars of the last century,” the news agency. Bloomberg scares massive US bankruptcies. And the United States centenarians remember the “hoover” and “The Bunches of Wrath”.
    With glock, Americans are more comfortable listening to the news. They obviously are not going to shoot at viruses.

    ps I envy your optimism, Liam. Stock market fighters do not have such a confident insider. laughing
    1. Liam 25 May 2020 21: 59 New
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      And this is not optimism, but realism and knowledge of the materiel. Unemployment benefits are social benefits for those who are in quarantine. In Russia, they would call it "self-isolation"). It is clear that some kind of bankruptcy will happen and not everyone will return to work, but only 80% of what is indicated in the post. But this does not mean that the real unemployment will be all those tens of millions from your horror stories.
      In addition, the US labor market differs from Europe, and even more so from Russia, by much greater mobility. Americans often change jobs and do not become unemployed for years. So I wouldn’t be very worried about the USA
      1. Quadro 30 May 2020 20: 09 New
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        Quote: Liam
        And this is not optimism, but realism and knowledge of the materiel. Unemployment benefits are social benefits for those who are in quarantine. In Russia, they would call it "self-isolation"). It is clear that some kind of bankruptcy will happen and not everyone will return to work, but only 80% of what is indicated in the post. But this does not mean that the real unemployment will be all those tens of millions from your horror stories.
        In addition, the US labor market differs from Europe, and even more so from Russia, by much greater mobility. Americans often change jobs and do not become unemployed for years. So I wouldn’t be very worried about the USA

        Another nonsense from Amer lackey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTMZJqOooJo
        Look, you might not be so obviously lying. You do not understand anything, you have no evidence, you just write nonsense in the style of "realism and knowledge of the materiel." Do you think someone will believe you? Funny.
    2. GMM
      GMM 25 May 2020 22: 15 New
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      It is likely that quarantine will provoke a larger-scale crisis than "mortgage".

      Oh, oh, easy! The Russian economy may not survive it. I hope you remember how their mortgage crisis hit us. A quarter of the gold and foreign exchange reserve was lowered to stabilize the ruble, which ultimately was released into free float. I remind you that at the beginning of this voyage, the dollar was worth 23 rubles.
  12. Ravil_Asnafovich 25 May 2020 22: 00 New
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    To each his own, someone on self-isolation, someone saves his ass.
    1. Revival 26 May 2020 00: 54 New
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      Yes, someone in paid self-isolation, someone in unpaid.
      That makes all the difference
      1. Quadro 30 May 2020 20: 11 New
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        Quote: Revival
        Yes, someone in paid self-isolation, someone in unpaid.
        That makes all the difference

        Well, what kind of paid self-isolation is there? A lump sum payment of 1300 dollars, when for a normal life there you need to get at least 4000? Is that such a concern? They made fun.
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          We were amused by the lack of payment at all
  13. samarin1969 25 May 2020 22: 32 New
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    Oh, oh, easy! The Russian economy may not survive it

    Not about the Russian Federation ... And I'm not Stiglitz or some Greenspan to make predictions. laughing
    It was about the demand for weapons in the United States. Depression is the usual horror story of American homeowners even in their “pre-virus” existence ... At VO, too, shotguns, saigas and other “sedatives” are regularly recalled.
    And the fact that the Russian economy does not have the capabilities of the Fed, the Central Bank and is vulnerable to the global crisis is obvious. And about the collapse of the concepts of "safe haven", "whoever buys above 30 - he will lose" everyone also remembers.
    But Americans remember the collapse of Lehman Br.
  14. Petrol cutter 25 May 2020 22: 42 New
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    Useless information.
    Although one blogger from there, yes, he reported on the purchase of six hundred rounds of ammunition ... For the fight, we must assume with the hooligans.
    Harsh but hooligans ... I thought. When purchasing such a BC! ...

    I would even recommend to attend to the purchase of RPGs however ...
    Kah Zhahnesh at the front door! So- Zhahnes!
    There, the opponents, and the melancholy will lag, and the sadness will pass!
    1. bk0010 25 May 2020 23: 10 New
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      When purchasing such a BC! ...
      Let me remind you: normal ammunition - 900 rounds.
      Quote: Benzorez
      I would even recommend to attend to the purchase of RPGs however ...
      I have been hinting to people about the prospects for the production and sales of hunting ATGMs.
      1. Petrol cutter 25 May 2020 23: 47 New
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        PTour
        Father. This is the land of the right machine.
        In the right place. Believe me.
      2. your1970 28 May 2020 19: 53 New
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        Let me remind you: normal BC - 900 cartridges.
        -on such quantities, this means one thing: you shoot back from the police station at least ... well, or from a squirrel ...
        1. bk0010 28 May 2020 21: 37 New
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          Quote: your1970
          -on such quantities, this means one thing: you shoot back from the police station at least ... well, or from a squirrel ...
          Google Minneapolis Riots. Imagine that you live there, and that you need to not only protect your family at the moment, but also to clean up all those “offended” before the end of the unrest, so that later you will have no problems from them. And then estimate the required ammunition, given that "one shot - one corpse" is an unattainable ideal. I think that it will become clear that 900 rounds is not "too much", but "few, but no longer carry."
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            Quote: bk0010
            Google Minneapolis Riots. Imagine that you live there, and that you need to not only protect your family at the moment, but also to clean up all those “offended” before the end of the unrest, so that later you will have no problems from them. And then estimate the required ammunition, given that "one shot - one corpse" is an unattainable ideal. I think that it will become clear that 900 rounds is not "too much", but "few, but no longer carry."
            I will answer with a quote of myself
            Quote: your1970
            why did I read you and realized that I’m living here several times more comfortably ... just because there is no need to stock up cartridges for war
            1. bk0010 28 May 2020 21: 55 New
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              Quote: your1970
              why did I read you and realized that I’m living here several times more comfortably ... just because there is no need to stock up cartridges for war
              As for the war is not necessary, but in the early days it is worth having a stock.
              1. your1970 28 May 2020 22: 07 New
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                Having looked at life for all sorts of things, I’m sure that such shooters, in the presence of an insistent desire to ditch them, just stupidly throw cocktails ... from the rear / sides / top ...
                even we have something to burn, and even in the states with their cardboard walls and wooden carcasses, carcasses the sky

                I thought I had a lot of rounds - 3 packs of 12 gauge belay belay lol lol and then there’s ...

                it turns out that a normal person needs to have a rhinestone - "post No. 4. Warehouses of the RAV division" repeat
  15. kit88 25 May 2020 22: 47 New
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    The United States, indeed, has its own unique specifics in absolutely any matter.

    Not, but our country is also not quite understood by the mind.
    At a time when a pandemic is around, and the United States openly calls us the enemy and constantly punishes us for something, ours include McDonald's from the state of Illinois, USA, in the list of backbone companies for state. support during a crisis. belay
    This means our taxes go to Illinois, and then there is nothing to eat the comrades of billionaires, the owners of this company? fool
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      it means that 50 000 McDonald's workers will not become unemployed, and their product suppliers will not lose their main buyer ...
      At any other time with two hands for - "McDonald's go home !!"
  16. Prisoner 25 May 2020 23: 42 New
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    "The dagger is good for the one who has it, and bad for the one who he will not be at the right time." (with) winked There will be a dagger, there will be a dog ..., sorry, and medicines, and masks, and food. laughing
  17. Baron pardus 26 May 2020 00: 17 New
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    Problem number one. Among criminals in the USA there are VERY many utter thugs. Up to the point that cats are killed "so as not to be recognized." Keep in mind that here, from childhood they say to you that they say social Darwinism, competition, etc. etc. As a result, people grow up who in other people see only competitors for nishtyaki: good work for all is not enough. There will not be enough houses in safe areas. Beautiful girls too. ITD etc. on the list. Therefore, in the USA, the proverb “Better you than me” has been in circulation for a very long time — you are better than me (getting into trouble), “Always look out for number one - YOURSELF” - Always take care of the most important thing - yourself. Well, the famous "nothing personal - just business". Just the mentality that people around are competitors, well, or potential customers (maybe even suckers). This mentality leaves a mark on behavior. I personally saw how in a Marianos store, a man of about 35 grabbed a loaf of bread from an elderly woman. And not the last, there were more on the shelf. Just people were in a mask and decided not to bother, but what will he do? Who will recognize him? And this is not uncommon. In the case of big P, I fear my neighbor, because he EXACTLY knows what I can make money at home. What is chornomazy may not know, for it is my home - a random target, but the neighbor PARTICULAR knows. That’s why I am boasting to all neighbors that I have such cool electronics from the 90s, now they say they don’t do such reliable things. Yes, it’s true, but I’m telling everyone how I have nothing to profit from in my house ... Moreover, since the criminals are full of scumbags, they often prefer not to leave witnesses until the police reach you — you are a corpse. A few years ago, teenagers opened an apartment and killed all domestic animals - including fish so that they would not be “identified” (I’m not joking, it WAS). and teenagers are not black but WHITE from prosperous families. The kids wanted adrenaline. In schools, children gobble each other with amazing sophisticated cruelty. (from there and postrelyushki in schools). So, for the average American, almost ANY other American, in the case of a large P, is a potential adversary: ​​either a victim (you'd better die of hunger and thirst than me), or an attacker. There is little hope for cops. Those just do not have time to arrive. But on the trunk of hope more. I live in a completely prosperous area. But I have an M1 carbine at the head of the bed (so that they can’t shoot the walls here from the drywall) And when this bogie started I bought not only ammunition, but I also bought another AUG rifle, though I wanted it for a long time, it was an excuse for my wife that supposedly ... necessary. And the ammunition - well, so I only bought 885 pieces. Why? And because then prices soared, and what is needed is not always available. And so it is. As they say, it’s good that there is, I hope that NEVER will be needed.
    That only complete degenerates seriously think that in which case they can resist the police, SWAT, the National Guard or the Army (ascending). The rest are armed from swarms of robbers and looters. Which, incidentally, also has a lot of interesting, and often VERY illegal nishtyakov enough. Up to automatic weapons and the M72. By the time police gets to you - you will be laying in a chalk outline (As long as the police reach you, you will lie surrounded by chalk). Man to man or wolf or sheep ...
    1. Whiteidol 26 May 2020 01: 23 New
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      In the US, not a foot ..
      1. Baron pardus 26 May 2020 01: 55 New
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        yes, no, you just need to understand the specifics of the mentality. Every man for himself. And most importantly CYA (Cover Your Ass). For example, when we arrived in the USA, my mother asked her best friend, who came to the USA 7 years before us, to help her with work. A friend named "Turovetskaya" refused "If you are taken and you will work worse than me, they will tell me that I recommended a lazy person. If you work better than me, they will fire me and put you in my place. Sorry, but I will not help." Since then, things have gotten worse. Again, nothing personal, I do not mind that you were fine but I will not substitute MYSELF. Those who served in the armed forces have a completely different mentality, like a different country. And the veterans really help each other. The US Armed Forces from scum make at least more or less normal people. At the same time, material well-being is very, very good. Just rot people. Exactly as Frederick the Great predicted that supposedly materialism is corrupting.
        During the presidency of Reagan, VERY cuts were spent on "mental health" - psychiatrists and psychologists. A bunch of people from hospitals were let out, and a bunch of people were unable to pay for services. And so they walk the streets. And you NEVER ... NEVER know what the brow is in your pocket, and at what level of psychological stress it is. Even in normal regions, the people break coils. A resident of Vernon Hills (a rich white suburb) stabbed my neighbor, a policeman, for what? Because he stopped him for speeding and because of this he was late for an interview. That is, the people decided to stab the MENT only because he stopped him for his rage. And people - before that was not seen in anything. And there are enough of them. And this is also a problem.
        Just coming to the US, remember - each is for himself. Yes, they can help but purely to show off before others that they say "how generous I am - I help losers." And organizations collecting “help” are torn off as they can, if 20% of what they donated reach the needy, it’s luck. But then again. Materially, it’s much better here than in Russia or on Nezalezhnaya.
        And liberalism, in addition to other mucks, inspired people to say that they can do anything: insult, spit, and yell like obsessed, but they can do it because each of them is “unique, precious, unique, creative person with an individual vision of the world, which everyone is OBLIGED to respect and listen and agree. "
        All this superimposed on one another, very very brains. When you DON'T KNOW how neighbors are called by name. And neighbors often do not talk to each other at all. Loneliness among the crowd. Grandpa Cooper once sang "We are clones and we are all alone." Hence the bullying both at work and in educational institutions, and, naturally, massive post-shootings, transcendent cruelty (not communicating closely with people, empathy and empathy atrophy completely) and other delights. You just need to understand where you live and with whom you communicate.
        1. Revolver 26 May 2020 02: 33 New
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          Quote: Baron Pardus
          When you DON'T KNOW how neighbors are called by name. And neighbors often do not talk to each other at all.

          Well this is where. For example, I am familiar with almost everyone on our street. Of course, we don’t go to visit, but at the meeting hi, how are you? and sometimes a couple of meaningless phrases, such as about the weather. Moreover, I am still the least sociable.
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          You just need to understand where you live and with whom you communicate.

          This is yes, always and everywhere.
      2. Revolver 26 May 2020 02: 37 New
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        In the US, not a foot ..

        If you think that we are here only you are not enough for complete happiness, you are very mistaken. Nobody is waiting for you here.
        1. Whiteidol 26 May 2020 21: 29 New
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          I live well in the morder.
    2. Revolver 26 May 2020 02: 51 New
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      Quote: Baron Pardus
      I live in a completely prosperous area

      Obviously not quite.
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      There is little hope for cops. Those just do not have time to arrive.
      The police is only minutes away, when seconds count.
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      so that they do not shoot through the walls here from drywall
      Do not expect it to flash through, and the one who fails behind the wall. Even my Nagan breaks through 50 meters of 5 pine inch boards. And to break through sheetrock, a layer of glass wool, and siding is enough and .22LR, it's 5.6mm crayon.
      1. Baron pardus 26 May 2020 03: 04 New
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        Well, not from M14, I should naughty at home if someone gets into it. And obviously not from AP15 or there Grundel / Boar. So the M1 carbine, it’s the most. With guns, I’m not so bad, I just prefer a rifle, although there’s Cesetta, and TTschka, and even Military and Policy, well, 1911 (if you are in the USA and you do not have 1911 you are not a patriot :-)) .. My wife , carbine 9mm. She also likes rifles more. Rayon is normal. I live across the street from the cops. Rayon Bely. But the “tours” from Chicago occasionally come to Vernon Hills, Arlington Heights, and Buffalo Grove, to Deerfield, last year some Negroes opened the house, but didn’t bother anyone - they cleaned everything out (pets, by the way, didn’t touch it) yes, and then there are scumbags. Like everywhere in the USA. But in the case of the Big Pete, the cops will protect themselves and their families, and certainly not me. The cops are also people, I don’t give them any, and each of them has a family, moreover, in the case of Big Pe Tse, the cops, as always, will try to bring down the first and even destroy all the archives of the mentor - a common thing. So everyone is for himself. By the way, I have long wanted to find out if a 32 H&R cartridge is shoved into a gun when it blows a shot or not?
        1. Revolver 26 May 2020 05: 24 New
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          By the way, I have long wanted to find out if a 32 H&R cartridge is shoved into a gun when it blows a shot or not?
          I have not tried it. I have long bought zinc from my native Naganovsky 7.62x38R, though now there is much less, I traveled to the shooting gallery.
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          if you are in the USA and you do not have 1911 you are not a patriot :-)
          My brother bought one (not a clone, a real Colt), I shot a couple of times and realized that I didn’t want to buy one. .45ACP cartridges are relatively expensive, it’s heavy, and flounders so that even a combination of headphones and ear plugs does not help much. Nagan in this sense is quieter, and lies more pleasant in the hand.
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          Rayon Bely. But the "tours" from Chicago occasionally visit both Vernon Hills, Arlington Heights, and Buffalo Grove,
          IL is still that cesspool, much less so close to Chicago. It seems like I read somewhere on Fox News that Chicago beat Detroit in the killings, and Detroit is still that monkey. These former niggas, and now African Americans, of course mostly shoot each other, but it happens that decent people also fall under the hand.
          1. alma 26 May 2020 09: 01 New
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            Baron Pardus (Dmitry) and Nagan - thanks guys, broadened my horizons good drinks
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            These former niggas, and now African Americans, of course mostly shoot each other, but it happens that decent people also fall under the hand.


            why did I read you and realized that I here lives on the spot at times calmer ... just because there is no need for ammunition for war

            I had about the same number of cartridges in the nest in the army in Kushka in 1989-90 m, but from that side they regularly shot day and night ...

            God forbid us from such a "free circulation of the COP" !!!!
            Quote: Nagan
            These former niggas, and now African Americans, of course mostly shoot each other, but it happens that decent people also fall under the hand.
    3. Normal ok 26 May 2020 04: 55 New
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      Quote: Baron Pardus
      Problem number one. Among criminals in the USA there are VERY many utter thugs. Up to the point that cats are killed "so as not to be recognized." Keep in mind that here, from childhood they say to you that they say social Darwinism, competition, etc. etc. As a result, people grow up who in other people see only competitors for nishtyaki: good work for all is not enough. There will not be enough houses in safe areas. Beautiful girls too. ITD etc. on the list. Therefore, in the USA, the proverb “Better you than me” has been in circulation for a very long time — you are better than me (getting into trouble), “Always look out for number one - YOURSELF” - Always take care of the most important thing - yourself. Well, the famous "nothing personal - just business". Just the mentality that people around are competitors, well, or potential customers (maybe even suckers). This mentality leaves a mark on behavior. I personally saw how in a Marianos store, a man of about 35 grabbed a loaf of bread from an elderly woman. And not the last, there were more on the shelf. Just people were in a mask and decided not to bother, but what will he do? Who will recognize him? And this is not uncommon. In the case of big P, I fear my neighbor, because he EXACTLY knows what I can make money at home. What is chornomazy may not know, for it is my home - a random target, but the neighbor PARTICULAR knows. That’s why I am boasting to all neighbors that I have such cool electronics from the 90s, now they say they don’t do such reliable things. Yes, it’s true, but I’m telling everyone how I have nothing to profit from in my house ... Moreover, since the criminals are full of scumbags, they often prefer not to leave witnesses until the police reach you — you are a corpse. A few years ago, teenagers opened an apartment and killed all domestic animals - including fish so that they would not be “identified” (I’m not joking, it WAS). and teenagers are not black but WHITE from prosperous families. The kids wanted adrenaline. In schools, children gobble each other with amazing sophisticated cruelty. (from there and postrelyushki in schools). So, for the average American, almost ANY other American, in the case of a large P, is a potential adversary: ​​either a victim (you'd better die of hunger and thirst than me), or an attacker. There is little hope for cops. Those just do not have time to arrive. But on the trunk of hope more. I live in a completely prosperous area. But I have an M1 carbine at the head of the bed (so that they can’t shoot the walls here from the drywall) And when this bogie started I bought not only ammunition, but I also bought another AUG rifle, though I wanted it for a long time, it was an excuse for my wife that supposedly ... necessary. And the ammunition - well, so I only bought 885 pieces. Why? And because then prices soared, and what is needed is not always available. And so it is. As they say, it’s good that there is, I hope that NEVER will be needed.
      That only complete degenerates seriously think that in which case they can resist the police, SWAT, National Guard or Army (ascending). The rest are armed from swarms of robbers and looters. Which, incidentally, also has a lot of interesting, and often VERY illegal nishtyakov enough. Up to automatic weapons and M72

      You see, they left for a long time in the states. Everything that you listed just as long ago became the norm in the vast expanses of the former Union. Moreover, in the Russian press last year they wrote (in VO also) that in quite normal schools there are branched-out children's criminal organizations that live “according to concepts” and do not just cheat classmates but collect money from them to “warm the zone” . Do not enter - you are among those who are being lowered, enter - participate in lawlessness.
      There is one difference - they put me here for self-defense. I’m silent about the availability of weapons.
      1. Baron pardus 26 May 2020 07: 37 New
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        Here you can also call on the bunk for self-defense. You have to PROVE that there was a threat to you. For example, last year, one guy ambushed those who cleaned houses in the district (without killing anyone). He caught them, shot them (it turned out a couple of white teenagers, a boy and a girl, were looking for an adrenaline rush), and then, recording himself on the camera, defiantly finished them off, emnip shots in the stomach and recorded how they were dying from loss of blood and pain .. And he sat down. Since they were already shot, they were not a danger to him. Another option can happen, though extremely rare. They got into your house, you shot him, he can theoretically judge you for your injury and disability. One of the reasons you are OPENLY told at self-defense lessons is that, in the case of self-defense, hrenyatke it until the enemy stops moving, which is why he will not judge you if he survives. There’s something else where there’s an idiotic law at all - a warning shot is a crime — a reckless firearm discharge, so you can land with a warning shot. You are RESPONSIBLE for one more subtlety for all that the bullets let out by you will do. That is, you missed, a bullet punched a window, flew 50 meters, broke a window in another house, and smashed the television - you are responsible for both the new window and the new TV. Suppose you were taken on a gop stop, you took out a trunk, and the attackers rushed to run. You have no right to nag them in the back - sit down for the murder. In short, there are also a lot of restrictions when and where you can hrenyat on lessons and gopnik. Everything is VERY strict. Even in states like Texas or Montana. The rules for the use of a firearm in self-defense are very clearly stipulated in the Ug Code.
        He left in 1991. And as for the fact that you’ve done in schools. Well so "children - the flowers of life - damn it grows thieves", these children are not from Mars and not from Nabira flew to you. Here is a section of your society. Congratulations. We have VERY similar here. In projects, all kinds of colors are very quickly divided into gangs, sometimes on an ethnic basis, shorter than evolutions from tribal wars - ZERO. Well, then on the list. Up to poking people who wear the “wrong colors” (FOOL - Folks Our Only Love), with knives and screwdrivers, and of course crap with their baseball bats. In the suburbs, another - of course there are children who WANT to think that they are there GD, Vice Lords, Black Stones, or some other fucking thing. They behave appropriately, though these black bandits are "very" fond of "very". True, without assault, in the rich white suburbs, the parents of your victim can quickly put your moles on the loot. Legally. But they break into cliques, and, often, scam outsiders absolutely mercilessly. As a rule, not physicists - morally. Although filling the spray bottle with urine and pouring urine over such an outsider is generally normal. Very funny. Hazing (Hazing) just rolls over sometimes. For example, there was a scandal at Deerfield High School. It turned out that if you want to be given a chance to be admitted to the club of "cool people" you have to go through a ritual where they poured the urine and shit of these "cool people" onto your head. Teachers naturally "did not know," and "did not suspect." And their career is more expensive. It’s more expensive for you to hurt children. But you will not join the club, well, the collective farm is voluntary - you are nobody, there is no way to call you. They won’t beat you, but they won’t invite you to cool parties, cool girls and guys will not meet with you, but they can easily mock morally. Of course, you can create a reputation for being a scumbag and provoking someone to a fight, he would be crippled, but only to get him started. So my friend Mark did, he simply broke the “tough guy” brush and knee, and then he almost bit his ear. Yes, you will be left alone. But you and your friends and hostels will not increase. They will simply ignore you, even, sometimes, the same outsiders as you yourself, just so as not to provoke “cool people”. So this is a section of our society. Well, the outsiders endure for a long time, then they take the trunk (either they dig it from relatives, or buy a left one, even a singed one), and, having declared to school, they settle accounts with everyone. And then teachers and psychologists make naive round eyes and say "where, how could this happen." Well, then it gradually pops up. But naturally, the teachers are not to blame, not the parents are not classmates, but "cruel video games, films and WEAPONS" I have a cousin, Dank, here, by the way, was born, such bullying was brought to the loop. Saved, pumped out. And by the way they didn’t beat him. Just made a pariah. So here too, a lot of interesting things are happening in schools here. The fact that drugs, even in good schools, are trifles. But the girls are given drugs for free - they are planted. This is in Buffalo Grove, and, Wilmette, and everywhere. And the teachers "do not know", and the cops shrug "And the school management doesn’t let us in, so as not to injure the children." That's it. You can avoid all this at school. But you won’t be popular and cool, you won’t have “right people” as friends, and “cool” girls and guys will not meet with you. Schools are not a gift here either. In addition to the military and the Catholic. Even in private schools, discipline is lame with all the consequences.
        1. Revolver 26 May 2020 08: 33 New
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          So here too, a lot of interesting things are happening in schools here.

          Well nifigase you wrote! I thought this only happens in indecent places, such as high diversity or finally minority majority town. Of course I heard about this, but not where I live. I have one child who went through a public school from kindergarten before graduating from high school, now she is in the 3rd year of college. Junior is just in high school. I know about the fact that there are all kinds of cliques at school, but affiliation with them is purely voluntary, they are not forcibly dragged out, they are not persecuted for non-participation, but the fact that cool kids do not communicate with you can be experienced. Yes, you can buy grass at school or something more serious, but mine doesn’t need it. If not, I have several packs of narcotic oxycodone tablets openly (nothing illegal - painkillers are officially prescribed from my herniated discs), they know where that is, and they don’t carry it. True, our city is more than 80% white, and most non-whites are Indians, Koreans, and other Asians. Blacks excuse me, there are practically no African Americans and Latinos, we have a very high tax on real estate (real estate), but they don’t like it. And the school district in our country includes only our town, and from neighboring cities, among which there is high diversity, students are not taken.
          And there is also such a cartoon. In the neighboring, much richer and white town at school a couple of years ago there was an epidemic of overdoses with fentanyl. Rich parents buy cool cars and rags for their children, give dubious amounts of money, and the children on their Porsches and Lexuses travel to the neighboring racially diverse city and buy heroin there. Well, some sellers dilute heroin like powdered sugar, but to still take it, they add cheaper fentanyl. But fentanyl is such a powerful thing that an extra fraction of a milligram is enough to go where they don’t come back from.
          So it seems I was not mistaken, and your city is really not quite prosperous. I have friends who live in New York City, mainly in Brooklyn, but also in Manhattan, because they get out of this situation by the fact that their children go to private schools or yeshiva, expensive but cheaper than lawyers and drug rehab. For example, one gave a girl 6 years old to the first class of a public school and a few days later she asked: "daddy, am I sexy?" The next day, he transferred it to a yeshiva, it is better to hammer the head with the Talmud than to learn such a thing.
          hi
        2. Shopping Mall 28 May 2020 16: 41 New
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          Quote: Baron Pardus
          ... The rules for using a firearm in self-defense are very clearly stipulated in the UG Code ...


          In Russia, the main problem is precisely that the rules in self-defense are not clearly stipulated. And those that are stipulated, the police and the courts interpret at their discretion. At least, such an opinion is formed on the basis of law enforcement practice available for analysis.

          Well, the people mowed of course - "he gave me in the face, I went home, took a gun and shot him ..."
    4. ycuce234-san 28 May 2020 13: 09 New
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      The rest are armed from swarms of robbers and looters.


      And all the same, only the armament of the American population is an obvious half measure, with regard to their mentality and way of life. It would be necessary to train the population at least in collective armed guards of their quarter and street and set up a control center and warnings: 90% of robberies and vandalism are immediately cut off and guards, police and warriors would flock to serious gangs like honey bees. It also makes sense within a block or street to have a warehouse of sand, bags and trench - for equipping the simplest checkpoints and trenches. It would be interesting for the police to organize this, such help from citizens is interesting, as this will relieve them in a disaster situation.
      What is more important is the lack of interest in the simplest means of communication - walkie-talkies buy a lot less than a small gun. It would be interesting to observe how the local mentality would change and mortality would decrease if, as a result of changes in the legislation, the gunner would be obliged to sell and the sold one should only be equipped with the simplest walkie-talkie and, when training and renewal of rights, they would also give up radio communication skills.
      1. your1970 28 May 2020 20: 18 New
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        Quote: ycuce234-san
        It would be necessary to train the population at least in collective armed guards of their quarter and street and to establish a control center and alerts:
        - fool fool fool
        You wrote the Russian language
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        Just coming to the US, remember - every man for himself.
        !!!!!!
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        When you DON'T KNOW how neighbors are called by name. And neighbors often do not talk to each other at all. Loneliness among the crowd.
        !!!!!!!!!!!!!
        and you are a "collective" ......
        1. ycuce234-san 29 May 2020 04: 25 New
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          The average US citizen has at least a dozen types of different formal or informal memberships: church parish, party membership, jim club, professional association (union), charitable organization, school council, public organizations, and community. That is, the American maintains basic relations not with “fence” neighbors, and many of the members of such organizations live on the same street or block, although they do not border. Rescue radio communication in an acute public situation is possible even for the most perfect misanthrope - with the local police station, not to mention the acquaintance-hunter, who lives a kilometer or two down the street. The secret of the simultaneous existence of inter-human competition and active social interaction is that they compete for objects of competition - for example, jobs and positions, but competition does not concern other things.
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            You wrote a lot of words, described membership in the breakthrough of organizations, the lack of competition outside of work ...
            Trouble is that if they have DNDs (with walkie-talkies), then only in the remote countryside, at some kind of rednecks .... well, or in some kind of Chinatowns ...

            There will be no average CITIZEN die for the sake of a quarterly neighbor ....

            And you have confirmed this, with a large number of rounds to protect YOURSELF, beloved ...
            1. ycuce234-san 29 May 2020 11: 19 New
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              There will be no average CITIZEN die for the sake of a quarterly neighbor ....


              It will not, but it will have to ... on fire.
              In case of pogroms, if the weapons were allowed to enter without hesitation, the thugs would take refuge in shelters, which is not observed, but there are fires and new and new arsons for many days. The mere presence of an arsenal is useless; more diverse equipment and organizational work are needed.

              [media = https: //www.1tv.ru/n/386710]

              By the way, it would be time for organizations selling fire extinguishing agents to take action - to demand that they be recognized as essential infrastructure wink .
          2. Baron pardus 29 May 2020 09: 26 New
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            Collective? Only with the presence of a LEADER whose authority is recognized. Otherwise, "Who are you to order me?" - This mentality is very often shown in American films and is NOT MUCH invented. It's one thing when you are a member of militia. And not only you yourself enrolled there, there is discipline like in the army, and what’s the head of it, there the overwhelming majority served. Another thing is when a bunch of civilian cretins - the crowd. Herd., "And who are you to indicate everything, we are all equal and free." They will just send you. In small villages where everyone knows everyone, yes, it’s different there, and in suburbia or in the city there is a herd, and each for himself. Organized gangs, such as GDs there, or Vice Lords or Black p stones, yes, they will be organized and, in the case of a big pe, they will endorse the people. BECAUSE, of course, they shoot down another friend dividing the prey, but BECAUSE. And I, of course, like all members of Militia, have a walkie-talkie. As for the "membership in the church," then here too the card will fall. The mentality of "Better you than me" is no one, no one has canceled. No, there are decent ones. But here egoism is elevated to the highest degree, "If you don't take care of yourself - nobody will", etc., etc. A person who goes to church with you can easily decide that your medication is more important to him, and then he will say "Only Good Lord can judge me, not you" .. So "membership" in all these organizations does NOT mean ANYTHING. I also go to the rocking chair. I don’t even know there are 7 people who go with me at the same time. School advice also means nothing. You deal not only with bureaucrats at school, but also with the parents of those degenerates who prevent your child from learning. Union Well, not all in unions. Yes, and in trade unions it is good to unite and run into employers (there is a reason), and when there is a lack of medicines and water, it is very difficult to be sure that your "union brothers" will not decide "nothing personal" and will not free you from your supplies. I have been in the states since 1991. He lived in Kansas, and in New York, and in Illinois and in Wisconsin. Well, I didn’t see that the people were in any kind of organizations. unless retirees who do not FIG. The school board is not an "organization"; it is a service and squabble with bureaucrats and scumbag parents. The church, as a rule, is a place of fellowship, and showing what kind of "pious" you are. As well as charitable organizations. Masons - yes, it’s another matter, they usually stand for each other, and they don’t differ from Militia in discipline .. Well, Again, those who served in the armed forces are overwhelmingly normal people with concepts. There are only TWO organizations (outside the Army and the police) in which there is a good chance of unity: these are either Militias or any other “semi-legal” organizations, such as WAR, Nordic Brotherhood, or even gangs. Against such organizations, not a single raion will stand. When you enter 100 Gangster Disciples in the suburbs, they will easily take control of a district of more than 50 large populations. Why What is no organization and cohesion. It goes without saying that they got into some kind of farmer's town - the "rednecks" there they just smeared. Clanism, and it is the community. By the way, among blacks, mexes and Asians, racially ethnic loyalty, unfortunately, is MUCH more developed than among average whites. But in Suburbia, or even in a good district in the city - they, if they want, and with the inaction of the police, the National Guard or organizations like Militia, WAR, Nordic Brotherhood "there, will put the population under control 50 times their size. By the way, the sense of pack and discipline is very developed among neopagans, however, given their close ties to WAR, and Nordic Brotherhood is not surprising.
  18. Revolver 26 May 2020 02: 26 New
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    If you do not know, then the right to own weapons, including a short barrel, is guaranteed by the US Constitution, or rather, the Second Amendment to it. But if in states controlled by shit-guns, they will see if you could escape the conflict and escape (armed with a firearm, running away from a baseball club is ridiculous? I don’t), then in more conservative states there is stand one's ground law. In practice, this means that if you are located anywhere (on the street, in a park, in a store, anywhere, and even more so in your own house) legally, you are not obliged to run away and have the right to self-defense, up to and including using deadly tricks (literally deadly force). And that is why the ability to purchase weapons and ammunition for self-defense is a vital infrastructure.
  19. anjey 26 May 2020 04: 33 New
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    In the USA, the cult of arms, and industrial manufacturers well lobby for their interests in the government, which cannot be said about ours; they have toughened up everything and everything in the civilian arms market, which you don’t want to take for nothing laughing
    1. _Sergei_ 26 May 2020 07: 29 New
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      After two years, the term of retake for an injury will come up and I think I should surrender it and not suffer or lose it.
      1. Alekspel 26 May 2020 10: 01 New
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        It’s better not to lose, you are tormented by explanatory writing. And about a fun life after self-isolation, we think it is guaranteed to us. There are many migrant workers, most will be left without work. Guess what they do with three times. And it’s useless to call the police, there are no district police officers at all. Law-abiding weapons do not, but they are all with knives. So everything is still to come.
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          Lose nothing to worry, 2000r fine and all.
          1. anjey 26 May 2020 13: 43 New
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            At us, apparently, such laws are a priori composed that it’s sometimes easier to break them than to comply, in short, a solid paradox laughing
    2. Baron pardus 29 May 2020 09: 35 New
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      What is lobbying? Common sense. Namely - in the hands of criminals DOFIG illegal trunks. The police CANNOT be everywhere at the same time. The number of scumbags among criminals (and young people who are looking for thrills) rolls over due to a simple banal lack of empathy (competition, selfishness, lack of communication). While the police will be coming to you (15-20 minutes), do you know what a flock of thugs with knives and a machete will do with your family? Even without trunks? Therefore, they are armed. Therefore, be afraid. Therefore, it happens that people knock over a fright .. Well, people came to you on the site in front of the house. It goes towards the house. I didn’t answer your warnings ... Well, you banged him. And then it turns out that the guy messed up the house, headphones in his ears, Mouzon listens, or he is catching Pokemon there, disconnected from reality, he didn’t answer, and he was a blind guy - he’s available. By the way, if you forehead warned and he continues to go - to bang him IN YOUR territory you are fully entitled. There are not one or two precedents. The people are simply FARED. And does not trust each other. By the way, if you talk with older amers, they will tell you that such madness began somewhere in the late 80s. And before that it was MUCH calmer. Even in bad areas.
      1. anjey 29 May 2020 17: 41 New
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        What are you? In the USA, everyone is scared. And when in the USSR, apartments were not closed or keys were placed under the carpet laughing The communists could not scare them laughing ....
  20. Nikolaich 26 May 2020 09: 20 New
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    Quote: bk0010
    I have been hinting to people about the prospects for the production and sales of hunting ATGMs.

    And KORDOV ...)))
    1. Revolver 26 May 2020 10: 11 New
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      Quote: Nikolaichъ
      Quote: bk0010
      I have been hinting to people about the prospects for the production and sales of hunting ATGMs.

      And KORDOV ...)))

      Nah, machine guns, and even automatic pistols like Stechkin cannot be bought here, at least legally. But the bolt rifle chambered for .50 BMG, aka 12.7 × 99mm NATO, he saw in the gun shop. But this is an elephant, almost a PTR, and an ordinary deer hunter or even a bear is redundant, and they do not hunt larger game in America. Unless boasting "I have more than you." lol
      1. Shopping Mall 28 May 2020 16: 45 New
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        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: Nikolaichъ
        Quote: bk0010
        I have been hinting to people about the prospects for the production and sales of hunting ATGMs.

        And KORDOV ...)))

        Nah, machine guns, and even automatic pistols like Stechkin cannot be bought here, at least legally. But the bolt rifle chambered for .50 BMG, aka 12.7 × 99mm NATO, he saw in the gun shop. But this is an elephant, almost a PTR, and an ordinary deer hunter or even a bear is redundant, and they do not hunt larger game in America. Unless boasting "I have more than you." lol


        There are no problems with rifles in Russia either - it’s only more difficult to obtain a license, and at least buy SVLK-14C “Dusk” if there is enough money: http://lobaevarms.ru/twilight/

        By the way, the 50th caliber was also going to be certified as a hunting one.
      2. Baron pardus 29 May 2020 09: 47 New
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        The practicality of such Anti material rifles, for the civilian, is doubtful. Well, of course, you can engage in long-range shooting; only shoot where you can realize it is not enough. Many people buy these weapons, and among his talk saying that hunting on police helicopters or there to hunt niggers and cars clogged Mex. Personally, I know the brow in Wisconsin who bought the FERRET armored car (legally), and installed THIS IN the tower THIS: 20mm caliber. http://www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm And I also know a bunch of people in the same Wisconsin and Kansas, they are either in Militia, or in the Nordic Brotherhood or something like that. who have a bunch of interesting things on the farms that their parents bought or dragged home until 1984. Which have not registered their "toys" anywhere, they lie and wait in the wings. Yes, it’s our guys from Iraq and Afghanistan who brought quite interesting things. And still drag.
  21. Nikolaich 26 May 2020 09: 23 New
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    Quote: _Sergey_
    After two years, the term of retake for an injury will come up and I think I should surrender it and not suffer or lose it.

    Already passed, took the exam, which must be taken in a neighboring city ... after 25 years of using almost all shooting in the sun
  22. Nikolaich 26 May 2020 10: 16 New
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    Quote: Nagan
    Nah, machine guns, and even automatic pistols like Stechkin cannot be bought here.

    Well, you can dream)))
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    Something in the USA is really scary, especially when everyone has a gun in their pocket. I read here about the crazy in the states, they say almost all of the hospitals were kicked out and they roam the streets. Here it certainly becomes dumb.
    1. Baron pardus 29 May 2020 09: 22 New
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      Not everyone has a gun in their pocket. But on the forehead NOT WRITTEN what is under his jacket. Reagan wildly cut down on medical expenses for emotionally and psychologically ill patients. A bunch of hospitals closed. Released all who could. Since then, it has not become better. Moreover, many medical insurance simply does not cover visits to psychologists, and there are from 50 per visit and up to 250. And people just do not have money. Of course you can go to the social worker. But their qualifications are lower than those of a psychologist. Therefore, treating yourself - with booze, CBD oils, drugs - the benefit is easy to get. And just restrain themselves, not wanting to lose a job. You will lose your job, you will lose HONEY INSURANCE (Cobra is not cheap), you will not find work in half a year, it is difficult to have to. No, you will not die of hunger, but you will lose EVERYTHING. So how much can be held back. But the thread breaks (see selfishness and narcissism of the average amer), and you NEVER know when you send a person away because he pushed you with a trolley in the Volmart, and he pokes you with a knife 20 times in response. Not because YOU sent him, but because that they’ve been dripping on his brain for the last 10+ years and you’re just that straw on which he broke. Last year, the foreheads were fired, “nothing personal, just cutting staff to improve productivity”, and for him over 50, it’s hard to find a new job, he returned to work with a pump-action shotgun - EMNIP 12+ corpses. Not that it is every day but it does not happen RARELY. For 300 lemons of people, 100 such cases a year is a trifle. But it does happen. Or, a college student recently blew the roof off us, well, so he managed with a machete, already, 5 corpses, he seems to have not been caught yet. Although, count up was a member of the society ... "Combating cruelty." Somewhere the guy got the thread cut - a few people shredded the machete. Stress, a high pace of life, competition, in the absence of communication (that is, LONELINESS) ... a rattlesnake.
  24. KSVK 26 May 2020 16: 30 New
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    But this is an elephant, almost PTR:

    PTR caliber 14,5 mm. Like the CPV. wink

    In general, well done USAshniki. Anyway. There is a good principle: Hope for Allah, but tie a camel. laughing

    And this proves once again that NORMAL people live in the USA. And in no case can you identify the entire population with the bl..vom ​​that their ruling elite creates. The same is true for Russia.

    I already regretted that I had not bought myself a kalashoid of any thread. nothing, I think I still have time. And so there are three rifled and two smooth. And cartridges in the form of components for five thousand. bully Fortunately reload officially allowed.
    And as for self-defense and other things, I think that it is better if two lead, than four bear. And no one is safe from a schucher. And 380000 guardsmen will not help. There’s already one ... well, the master, probably, was planning to climb the roof with a machine gun, to shoot people in rebellion. I’ll look at such comrades in good optics, yeah, over the trunk. yes
    1. Revolver 26 May 2020 18: 31 New
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      PTR caliber 14,5 mm. Like the CPV.

      Google the book “Tank destroyers of World War II. Anti-tank infantry weapons” by Semyon Fedoseyev, it says that the PTRs under 12.7 were made, but showed themselves weakly, so the PTRs under 14.5 became massive.
      Quote: KSVK
      one ... well, mister, probably, was going to climb with a machine gun on the roof, people rebel to shoot

      He did not come up with anything new; by this Kerensky was still having fun on the corner of Nevsky and Sadovaya. Maxim (s) was in the attic, or on the roof of the Public Library (s).
      Quote: KSVK
      In general, well done USAshniki. Anyway. There is a good principle: Hope for Allah, but tie a camel.

      good hi drinks
      1. your1970 28 May 2020 20: 21 New
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        Quote: Nagan
        He did not come up with anything new; by this Kerensky was still having fun on the corner of Nevsky and Sadovaya. Maxim (s) was in the attic, or on the roof of the Public Library (s).
        - they didn’t find a single one. The mass bike about machine guns in the attics of the February Revolution of 1917 was not confirmed
        1. Revolver 28 May 2020 22: 25 New
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          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Июльские_дни
          1. your1970 28 May 2020 23: 32 New
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            The task:
            We have
            1) "an uncontrollable crowd of numbers, according to various estimates, from several tens to five hundred thousand (according to Bolshevik sources) the man moved forward. "
            2) "On the corner of Liteiny Prospect and Panteleimonovskaya Street, a detachment of sailors underwent machine-gun fire from the windows of one of the houses;"
            3) "three Kronstadters were killed and more than 10 wounded."

            The answer is - crazy raving....


            Here on this avenue is 10 people (take the minimum !!!), the entire length of the avenue is 000 meters ... you see the width of the avenue ???
            When firing a machine gun from pre-prepared positions along a narrow street in a crowd of from more tens of thousands killed 3 and injured more 10 ???? !!!!
            And now let's remember the stampede at the stadium in Luzhniki (1982), simply because the order of numbers is close, there were 16000. They crushed to death 66 person...
            Now imagine how many the crowd would have trampled - if it really would hit a machine gun??? Moreover each a cartridge in such a crowd would have found a guaranteed victim - if it hadn’t killed it would have crippled, which would lead to guaranteed trampling ....
            There, at least a couple of hundreds would be trampled to death and a thousand others mutilated, except for those whom it would have put in turn ...
            But that's not all ...
            Have you ever seen live machine gun firing? Well, at least in the video? Is it possible miss?
            What we see in the description:
            "Sailors grabbed their rifles and became randomly shoot in all directions"-that is none of them shooting at the crowd from the machine gun window not seen!!!. And this is the most technically competent part of the crowd militarily ..

            Reality
            It was the same as on Maidan 2014 - solitary arrows with rifles or even pistols ...
            That is why such miserable (for even 1 machine gun !!) losses and indiscriminate shooting in all directions .... A single shot from the roof - see where the shooter is sitting ... and if they fired from pistols, the crowd might not even hear the shots. ...
            1. Revolver 28 May 2020 23: 46 New
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              Well, I don’t know, I studied these episodes of history from Soviet textbooks, I don’t remember the details anymore, but I remember the fact that there were machine guns and a photo of Nevsky at the intersection with Sadovaya with corpses. So if something is wrong, there are questions for the author of the history textbook.
              1. your1970 29 May 2020 06: 40 New
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                And I'm Soviet ... the problem is that the textbooks did not fit in with the width of the street, the power of the machine gun and the number of victims ....
                There either single shooters or 200-300-500 people walked, no more ...
                The psychosis with machine guns in 1917 was considered by many in memoirs .... in the main mass, all agree that there were no machine guns

                I do not believe on the basis of earlier arguments
                And as for the photo ... I remember it .... you yourself understand, from where at the right moment in the right place are zhurnalyugi .... taking into account the mobility of the then cameras .....
                This is the then White Helmets lol repeat and banal decree
  25. NF68 27 May 2020 16: 25 New
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    Is small arms the best anti-coronovirus?
  26. Baron pardus 30 May 2020 03: 39 New
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    About WHY in which case everyone stocks up with weapons and ammunition. Yes, because they KNOW where they live. Watch what is happening now. The cops banged black. Slightly overdone during the detention, sent back to the forefathers. TURNED OUT. Not only in the city where this happened but also in other cities. "Protests," aha blacks and other liberal rot (paid for by Soros), "protests" against police arbitrariness. Yeah, looting shops, setting fire to shops, buildings and cars. This is here called "protest against police arbitrariness" called. Especially electronics, jewelry and distillery. To break a store, to bring home a TV or computer - to protest against the arbitrariness of the police. Pulling out a box of viskar and blowing it out is also a protest and also a civil position. Like that.

    And, interestingly, the police certainly stand, and NOT INTERVENTING watching it. Why not intervening? And because someone must give them an order to INTERFERE and disperse all of these banderlogs. And who wants to substitute YOUR career? Obviously not to the mayor of the city, obviously not to the governor, and obviously not to the "chief of police" of the city. It is not their property that is robbed and burned, but a career is a pity. Burn a couple of police cars? So they will raise taxes on those who WORK (and all these "protests" take place AFTERNOON when NORMAL citizens work), and they will buy new cars, and they will arrange a cut with a rollback ... But let down the police squad on this pack, let it be 150 times under the law, they will be accused of Racism, Fascism, and a bunch of other Isisms. Therefore, the police are quietly watching. And guys, how are we going to tomorrow and get ready, so that in case of anything we should be ready. And by the way, after you have been accused of all sorts of isms so many times, you start to feel like Mowgli "You called me so many times that I myself felt the truth of these words." We have been called so many times the Nazis, fascists, communists (and communists too), racists, totalitarianists, fans of the Confederates, that we are already beginning to sympathize with them all.
  27. Comrade Kim 30 May 2020 19: 38 New
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    You can still understand, but the presence in the Russian list of the bookmaker is, to put it mildlyperplexity.


    Yes, there shook hands guys, but they can not be called:
    "The owner who can not be called: who is behind the bookmaker Fonbet"
    http://www.compromat.ru/page_41196.htm