China is wondering why hypersonic missiles are deployed in Siberia

MiG-31 - carrier of missiles of the Dagger complex

Russia decided to deploy hypersonic missiles in Siberia. Naturally, China paid attention to this decision. Interested in such placement in China.

On the pages of the Chinese edition of Phoenix, military experts Cheng Hanping and Yuan Zhou are considering possible reasons for placing hypersonic weapons "near the territory of China." The wording “near the territory of China” itself at the same time looks strange.

The reason for the discussion was information published by the Russian military that military pilots of units deployed in Siberia will begin to master the dagger hypersonic missiles that will be equipped with combat aircraft next year.

Chinese experts believe that hypersonic weapons will appear in Siberia in order to control and ensure the security of the Arctic, Central Asia and the Far East. All of these regions will be within reach of the missiles.

They believe that Russia has reasons to closely monitor precisely these areas.

The situation in Central Asia of the Russian Federation should be controlled because of a possible aggravation of the situation in the region after the withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan. Such a change in the situation can negatively affect not only Afghanistan, but also the neighboring post-Soviet republics of Central Asia.

In the Far East, Russia has a threat of conflict with Japan, which claims to be the so-called "northern territories." Therefore, this region should also be “under the gun”. Phoenix correspondents write about this.

And finally, the Arctic. Since Soviet times, Russia considered the North Pole its property. And if before the Arctic did not pay attention, today interest in it has grown significantly. And Moscow rightly believes that the “Daggers” stationed in Siberia are capable of protecting the country's interests in this region.

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[PN]

They themselves asked a question, they themselves answered it ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: PN

They themselves asked a question, they themselves answered it ...

They did not answer, but clarified. )))

[mark2]

And explained - believed.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: mark2

And explained - believed.

And having believed - they were afraid!

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Quote: mark2

And explained - believed.

And having believed - they were afraid!

consider the possible reasons for the deployment of hypersonic weapons "near the territory of the PRC"

The counter-question is - why does China need tank armies if there are straits in front of Taiwan in the southwest of the mountain? Who are you going to fight with? With Mongolia or Kazakhstan? Or ... ?!

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Starover_Z

Or ... ?!

A very plausible option!

[hydrox]

Abaldet!
It’s even impossible to imagine WHAT ELSE Chinese journalists can suck out of their dirty fingers, since they could hardly find public information about the deployment of MiGs with daggers in the public domain

[5-9]

Until the Chinese "tank armies" get to our border from their places of permanent deployment, any war will end 5 times, or just start when they are on the way .... The fact that China has near our border is an analogue of the Soviet Central Asian military district. ..the boondocks, rear areas and rural pastoral

[Naughty]

it is an analogue of the Soviet Central Asian military district ... outback, rear and rural pastoral

Ridiculed even my slippers

[5-9]

Of course, much thinner both in terms of composition and preparation .... I had in mind the level with respect to their FGPA, which are deployed on the coast opposite Taiwan ...

[Dimmedroll]

Not really, ours will have to get the same. So, by agreement, we took 100 km. his heavy equipment.

[5-9]

Where and where do ours get to? China has a thousand kilometers from our border troops with a gulkin nose.
I'm not saying that because of the terrain and geography, it’s almost impossible to attack us from them (the more you catch Amur, the more they surrender themselves), but on the contrary, it’s very convenient.

[LeonidL]

Regarding the Mongolian People's Republic and Kazakhstan - China has long considered the Mongolian People's Republic and considers it only a severed part of Outer Mongolia, well, Kazakhstan ... Kazakhstan, and the Chinese "brothers" will try to do everything for Russia to sit and only voice its formidable "Chinese" demands through the Foreign Ministry.

[Revolver]

Quote: Starover_Z

The counter-question is - why does China need tank armies if there are straits in front of Taiwan in the southwest of the mountain? Who are you going to fight with? With Mongolia or Kazakhstan? Or ... ?!

Also ask for what polar waters of China they build icebreakers.
It is no secret that China considers Siberia and the Far East to be Chinese territories illegally seized by the tsarist government, taking advantage of the temporary weakness of the "Celestial Empire". And that sooner or later "historical injustice" must be redressed.

[Ilya-spb]

It is not a Chinese matter to ask such questions.

Wherever we want, there we place it.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Ilya-spb

This is not a Chinese business to ask such questions.

If the Chinese were still fluffy nyashki, and so, no one knows what they have in mind. Nothing, now in a swara with the Americans, will be in Russian skin. Let's see how they sing.

[ROSS_51]

Quote: mark2

And explained - believed.

Themselves with it. They are so white, no .. the yellow ones are fluffy that you don’t need to hold any weapons against them.

[seregatara1969]

From Siberia to America closer

[Mavrikiy]

On the pages of the Chinese edition of the Phoenix, military experts Cheng Hanping and Yuan Zhou are considering possible reasons for placing hypersonic weapons "near the territory of China." The wording “near the territory of China” itself at the same time looks strange.

Thank you for not writing, "in China." What to answer to talking stools. Does the Chinese Foreign Ministry exist or is it no longer there?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: PN

They themselves asked a question, they themselves answered it ...

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: PN

They themselves asked a question, they themselves answered it ...

They did not answer, but clarified. )))

And in general, they are pleased to communicate with smart people

[Civil]

There is no trust in an ally, a ring of enemies from Norway to Turkey and from Georgia to Japan. Especially generous Mongols are conspiring, not to mention Madagascar spies.

[Stalllker]

Need to eat

[Pavel57]

The Mongols wanted to build a dam and keep water out of Lake Baikal. While persuaded not to do this.

[hydrox]

But if the insidious Mongols, incited by the cunning Japanese, nevertheless build such a dam, then these MiGs with Daggers will fly to split it.

[avg]

Quote: PN

They themselves asked a question, they themselves answered it ...

They answered, but not quite. So it could be quite possible to add - do not ask "too smart" questions, you will not get "no less smart" answers. We did not ask the Chinese why they deployed their DF-41 ICBMs in the northeastern Heilongjiang province, bordering Russia.

[Pavel57]

The goals of the DF-4 ICBMs in Russia. Like ICBMs near Irkutsk, they are not aimed at China.

[hydrox]

If we recall that the Daggers with their "lethal" range of up to 1,5 thousand km are "killers of aircraft carriers, then their basing in Siberia makes no sense, since even the NSR is beyond the launch range, and the Pacific Ocean at the latitude of Sakhalin is even more so is at a distance greater than two launch ranges - and there is nowhere else to catch more aircraft carriers (unless a model ship on a river ) ...
And then, you can learn in Siberia (fewer prying eyes), but you can get up to a permanent deployment anywhere in the Far East, and aircraft carriers do not go north (catapults freeze !!)

[hydrox]

Well, you uneducated Liberdyan, are you minus me ?. Read here, enlighten, try with this coal to drop a spark of reason into your sleeping head!
https://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/590327-uyti-nevozmozhno-chto-rossiya-prigotovila-dlya-avianoscev-ssha.html

[SOKOL777]

As for the DF-41, it’s simple. China has no reliable air defense systems. The location near our borders is agreed. We took them under our umbrella. If they fly in our direction, they will be immediately shot down. A military alliance is looming here.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

"We took them under our umbrella" - can you attach a scan of the contract?

[Dmitry Potapov]

For beauty, exclusively for beauty!

[mark1]

And also, that Europe would not once again be brought to a hysterical crisis. Throwing from place to place is not a long business, but formally there is no threat.

[Prisoner]

The hysterical crisis is a permanent state of Europe. Surely they will begin to howl about the threat from Siberia.

[hydrox]

To do this, it would be useful to put in Belarus a couple of inflatable mock-ups with daggers somewhere at the dual-use aerodrome (or in Lida, Machulishchi, maybe Baranovichi) and chuckle over Eurohistory ...

[Mountain shooter]

To transfer Migi to any part of the country, with their "mobility" will not take much time. And why are Chinese missiles in Inner Mongolia?

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

... And why are Chinese missiles in Inner Mongolia?

This is not aggression, it is rather a sign of trust - they deploy strategic forces in the safest areas in terms of their remoteness from the coast and other threats and probably understanding that we are not enemies strategically. You must admit that the difference is small at what distance from our borders their strategic nuclear forces, and they are calmer in the event of a non-nuclear strike by their enemies.

[vvvjak]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

This is not aggression, but rather a sign of trust

And I agree with you. It is stupid to place ICBMs in the zone of destruction of conventional (non-nuclear) weapons of a potential enemy. There are various options for such a step. For example, ICBMs of the PRC are under the "umbrella" of the RF early warning system, or a strike on missile positions will result in the defeat of the RF territory, which will automatically force it to retaliate.

[zadorin1974]

I would add Eugene, why so many PLA forces in the north of China? By the way, the northern districts are rearmament first.

[l7yzo]

Campaign natural disasters still happen. Well, the coast may well flood a small (or large tsunami). After all, it floods and shakes. A hurricane is where you have never heard of them before. The seas are drying up, the deserts are turning green, soon you can engage in farming on Novaya Zemlya)) Australia can finally condole with it, you can finally understand what is happening, the car burns to ashes, and next to it there is a green tree and there’s not a trace of fire (there are a lot of pictures in the internet )

[AllBiBek]

It begs that in order for Russian air defense systems to be covered up, in which case the states will hit just the mines with missiles.

[Mavrikiy]

China is wondering why hypersonic missiles are deployed in Siberia

Oh, the next preoccupied, Europe and the US are not enough. You ask the Chinese Foreign Ministry, on a neighboring branch

China and Russia act together. This cooperation will continue in the name of peace and stability, which today is increasingly lacking on the planet.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

In order for Chinese experts to have work, or they will die of hunger.

[prior]

The "dagger" from Siberia will reach any part of the "torso of the aggressor", whoever he is.
My apartment, where I want slippers and put .....

[cniza]

The main thing is that away from the eyes of the main "partners".

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

The Chinese guys are a counterweight to American military bases in Japan.

[carnifexx]

In China, they began to suspect that Russia is not as naive about them as the Chinese would like. I would like to believe that the deployment of "Daggers" from Siberia is not an accident.

[Pvi1206]

it is unclear why the Russian Defense Ministry is reporting the deployment of weapons ... so that they start to fear? ... or is it disinfect ...

[cniza]

Quote: Pvi1206

it is unclear why the Russian Defense Ministry is reporting the deployment of weapons ... so that they start to fear? ... or is it disinfect ...

So it’s like the Chinese said so, and our M.O. is silent ...

[evgen1221]

And where do we place hypersound on my territory note, given the acceleration factor and media stability? As if in America and other radishes they do not allow our nuclear facilities to be placed, it remains to be blamed on its territory. Or not on your own?

[evgen1221]

And where do we place hypersound on my territory note, given the acceleration factor and media stability? As if in America and other radishes they do not allow our nuclear facilities to be placed, it remains to be blamed on its territory. Or not on your own?

[Reserve buildbat]

1. Our missiles in our territory. Where we consider it necessary, there we place it.
2. In addition to the tasks indicated by the Chinese, one can recall one more: so that all sorts of "monkey kings" sit on their branch and do not confuse the banks. Cupid.

[l7yzo]

Gentlemen, we will be honest. China was grown for a reason, its development over 30 years from obscure consumer goods to the production of missiles is no coincidence. Such technologies just do not give anyone, and you need to develop a base for yourself - and it was not born in China. And technology and machine tools. And this current, the century before last, is usually sold to other countries. And note that every cool IT company, every cool can and every cool microprocessor company had offices and manufacturing in China. What would China study, peep well, if it was very tight then he was taught)))
As they say, we will soon find out why they raised him.

[NAVIAVI]

Also with Newton's bean :-)
Labor cost. Why drag this whole gopa to the states, it’s easier to teach them how to do it, pay miser for work, and sell in Europe and other countries is more expensive.

[Brigadier]

"China is wondering why hypersonic missiles are deployed in Siberia."

A Schaub Bulo!

[cniza]

Hid away from everyone ...

[l7yzo]

It really pleases - what it is.

[Chaldon48]

In China, the strange idea of ​​the border and where it passes seems to be somewhere very close to Lake Baikal. I wonder who drove the Chinese absurdity into the head of the Chinese, is it not official Beijing?

[Knell wardenheart]

The border is where the Communist Party of China says))))

[l7yzo]

exactly,
their border is their ambition.

[Runoway]

Well, no one forgot the surprise from a communist friend on Damansky Island. The tradition there is to demonstrate the latest weapons.
And then, according to Sohu, the Russian Federation has neither a 5th generation aircraft nor hypersonic weapons, which were then scared of MiGs

[veritas]

China is wondering why hypersonic missiles are deployed in Siberia

What is there to be interested in, China also has an army at the border with us. In general, in addition to China, there is someone to defend against.

[lopuhan2006]

Are those Chinese we all fluffy?

[Grits]

Nicely, the Chinese described the territory of Siberia - from the Arctic to the "territory of China" and from Central Asia to the Kuril Islands. And where, in this vast area, are the Migi that scared the Chinese so much?

[Sergej1972]

In Russia, until 1917, the Russian Far East was also considered part of Siberia. In addition to the Amur region. It was even believed that Amur people were not similar in nature to Siberians.

[Grits]

Quote: Sergej1972

It was even believed that Amur people were not similar in nature to Siberians.

I think that Kamchadals and Chukchi are also not very similar to Siberians. Character.

[Sergej1972]

Actually, I studied the press of that time. We are talking specifically about the Russian people - Siberians and residents of the Amur region. The latter were often called "Russian Americans", not particularly religious and prone to adventures.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Gritsa

I think that Kamchadals and Chukchi are also not very similar to Siberians. Character.

The indigenous people were compared. Although the ethnonym "Kamchadal" is controversial, it is believed that this is an old-timer in the second or third generation of immigrants or from a mixed marriage. Also called residents living in the floodplain of the Kamchatka River.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Sergej1972

In Russia, until 1917, the Russian Far East was also considered part of Siberia. In addition to the Amur region. It was even believed that Amur people were not similar in nature to Siberians.

Since 1708, the Siberian province was formed with territories from the Urals to Kamchatka.
Further Siberian Governor General. In 1822 it was divided into West Siberian and East Siberian (the capital Irkutsk). Since 1884 it has been divided into the Irkutsk Governor General and the Amur (capital of Nikolaevsk-on-Amur), including: Sakhalin, Primorsk, Amur and Transbaikal regions.
The Kamchatka Region, first as the Petropavlovk-Kamchatka Special Harbor with Chukotka, Okhotsk and Gizhigi counties, was part of the Irkutsk, then Priamursky provinces.
What are the differences between Siberians and Amur people?

[Sergej1972]

We are talking about the 70-90s. 19th century, that is, not about the modern population. Russian ethnographers, travelers, and officials in their reports emphasized the peculiarity of the inhabitants of the Amur region. They were very different both from the Russians of European Russia, and from the Siberians, especially from the Old Believers, and the chaldons. This was often written in Russian wealth, Russian thought, Herald of Europe. They compared them with the inhabitants of America, and, oddly enough, of Odessa. As I understand it, a metaphor showing the desire of the inhabitants of the region for enrichment, their enterprise. A lot has been written about the Chinese and Koreans living in this Russian region.

[Knell wardenheart]

Well yes, hypersonic over-expensive products will be used by the mujahideen ..
Generally speaking, the topic of our defense in the direction of China is a dark horse. It would be very interesting to read material with analytics on this subject ..

[Voltsky]

China is wondering why hypersonic missiles are deployed in Siberia

With a good word and a gun, you can achieve much more than just a good word

[cniza]

Chinese experts believe that hypersonic weapons will appear in Siberia in order to control and ensure the security of the Arctic, Central Asia and the Far East. All of these regions will be within reach of the missiles.

They took care of themselves and answered their own questions.

[Piramidon]

Russia decided to deploy hypersonic missiles in Siberia. Naturally, China paid attention to this decision. Interested in such placement in China.

A conclusion can be drawn from this message. Of course, the sphincter of the Chinese is also not metallic, which is why they are worried. But they understand that the samurai and the bases of their overseas "shoguns" are a priority for us.
PS Pure IMHO. Do not kick much

[Old26]

Quote: Starosta

This is a warning ..! You never know what ... And this is not necessarily a threat to China! Supersonic and "Daggers" can hit any target in this region while stable, but if anything ..

The question is, where is this "Siberia" and to what goals in the region they will be able to reach. For the Chinese, yes. But why do we need a hypersonic "Dagger"? Defending the Arctic from its bases "in Siberia" is also problematic. The only real place is Kamchatka and the goal of Japan, or rather its fleet and bases

[cniza]

Well, there, and the USA is hanging around everywhere ...

[Antokha]

If India were on the territory of China, they might not have been accommodated. A predatory nation, especially now, is looking with lust at our territory. They want to rule as America, and not as a strong, but decent state, such as the Russian Empire or the USSR.

[Old26]

Quote: Anton

If India were on the territory of China, they might not have been accommodated. A predatory nation, especially now, is looking with lust at our territory. They want to rule as America, and not as a strong, but decent state, such as the Russian Empire or the USSR.

The question is different. Why exactly "Dagger"?

[cniza]

It was the Chinese who said that the "dagger", and so ...

[LeonidL]

An exceptionally correct decision in case "If a" friend "turns out to be suddenly ...", and China showed that with such a friend as the PRC it is necessary to keep the "Dagger" ready just in case ...

[Old26]

Quote: cniza

It was the Chinese who said that the "dagger", and so ...

The first sentence of the article:

Russia decided to deploy hypersonic missiles in Siberia. Naturally, China paid attention to this decision. Interested in such placement in China.

What other hypersonic missiles do we have that can be deployed in Siberia? Only two places where the MIG-31 is based

[75 Sergey]

The devils were worried. But like tanks in the mountains, everything is fine.

[Marconi41]

In the photo Kamchatka Elizovo and there are no such missiles.

[Old Horseradish]

Chinasians have long considered Siberia and the Far East their territory. Where they feel at home and use the resources of Siberia and the Far East for all 100.
Chinese Air Force worked night rocket-bombing attacks in the north-west of the country

[Old Horseradish]

China will play the role of Russia's adversary in World War III. The corresponding prophecy was allegedly made by the Soviet mentalist Wolf Messing at one time, according to the material posted on the Internet.
According to "Messing's prediction" published in Yandex. Zen ”, in the future the PRC will become the most serious threat to Moscow. The Chinese side will camouflage its aggressive steps, posing as a friend and partner of Russia.
Because of the actions of Beijing, the Third World War is to begin, the quoted post notes. China will strike Japan and Taiwan with nuclear weapons, after which Russia will act against the PRC. https://weekend.rambler.ru/crazy-world/44234206/?utm_content=weekend_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

Old Horseradish, do not read internet delirium at night. If the PRC hits Taiwan or Japan, Russia will not lift a finger to protect one or the other, since they are neither friends, nor allies, nor even Russia's main economic partners. But the United States and NATO will not only move, but will unleash all their might on China. Second, it’s enough to spread tales about the "dominance of the Chinese" in Siberia. I just live in the very center of this Siberia, and so we have very few Chinese. There are 10 times more Azerbaijanis. At the same time, the Chinese do not stay here for a long time, only a few units take Russian citizenship (for example, in 2018, only 6 residents of the PRC became citizens of the Russian Federation in the Krasnoyarsk Territory. In the same year, the inhabitants of the Caucasus and Central Asia turned into Russians in dozens, if not hundreds times more). In the Amur Region and in the southern part of the Far East, there are more Chinese, since the border is nearby, but even there they are only temporary guests. About the exploitation of the riches of Siberia by the Chinese is greatly exaggerated. This is mainly felling and removal of timber. Previously, they rented land for growing vegetables, but now it is very rare. Their attempt to build a plant for bottling lake water on Lake Baikal failed.

[NAVIAVI]

Photo article 31st Elizovo.
Does not hit the headline about Siberia.
In 865 IAP there are no dagger carriers.

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

Yes, the answer to the question "why is Russia placing missiles in Siberia?" simple and straightforward: because Siberia is the territory of Russia. And on its territory, the Russian Federation places missiles wherever it sees fit.

[Old26]

Quote: Marconi41

In the photo Kamchatka Elizovo and there are no such missiles.

Of course not. The first phrase with the article sounds like?

Russia decided to deploy hypersonic missiles in Siberia.

Decided - this does not mean that she posted. And it is completely unknown when it will place and whether it will be placed at all. IMHO it makes no sense to place MIGs with "Daggers" in Kansk. In Yelizovo - it is necessary to deploy an additional number of MIGs, and not redo the existing ones

Quote: NAVIAVI

Photo article 31st Elizovo.
Does not hit the headline about Siberia.
In 865 IAP there are no dagger carriers.

Yelizovo is generally difficult to call Siberia ... Only Siberia is suitable for Siberia ...

Quote: Andrey Krasnoyarsky

Yes, the answer to the question "why is Russia placing missiles in Siberia?" simple and straightforward: because Siberia is the territory of Russia. And on its territory, the Russian Federation places missiles wherever it sees fit.

The question is not whether or not Russia can deploy what is needed on its territory. The question is different. Why in Siberia "Daggers"

[NAVIAVI]

What I wrote about. Let the author state it clearly, but as in the USSR, we say one thing, think another, do the third. Although what am I. If Stone brings in a video of the work of American helicopters, posing as his ... :-)
Or at a briefing of the Moscow Region, a silhouette is allegedly shot down by a Boeing, specifically the American aircraft EW Raiden, which generally has no armament and was removed for a long time.
And this is Kanashenkov, a graduate of the Zhytomyr School of Air Defense .... Air Defense !!! For which silhouette recognition is a sacred affair.

[Redfox3k]

In his apartment, slippers stand near the threshold, through the door - the door of a neighbor. Question: what’s the matter to the neighbor where I put my slippers. Or a rubber baton, which hangs on a hanger near the front door ... against a neighbor, definitely.

[NAVIAVI]

what a neighbor cares where I put my slippers.
Ek you what :-)
And chegozh not remember about it, when after the overthrow of Yanukovych, someone trampled into the Crimea?
For new slippers?

[kris_67]

The PRC is worried, Russia has placed all five "Daggers" in Siberia

[Ros 56]

Itself believed, or brought the magpie on the tail?

[Ros 56]

And so that the Chinese crucian carp does not doze off, and the rest of the crucian carp, too. Let the dagger be ready.

[Ax Matt]

At one time, throughout the steppe in Kazakhstan there were framed units with a huge number of Maksimov machine guns in grease and dug-in armored caps ... And we studied the performance characteristics of the military equipment of the neighboring state - China. "Daggers" - this is our current ardent greetings! And China too ...