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NI recalled how Churchill planned to turn the end of World War II into the beginning of the Third

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Winston Churchill, who had a reputation as a man with innovative thinking, in the spring of 1945 gave his military analysts a task that they could not even expect from such an original as the British Prime Minister. He instructed them to develop a plan of attack on the USSR.


This is written by an American expert on defense and stories Michael Peck in an article published by National Interest (NI).

The very idea of ​​starting another one after such a large-scale war was so crazy that the British military called the “Unthinkable” a plan of attack on the USSR.

Then it was assumed that after the victory over Hitler, most of the American troops would be transferred to the Pacific Ocean against Japan. And then, according to Churchill, if Stalin decides not to confine himself to Eastern Europe and moves his troops further, then there will be no one to stop him.

Therefore, the British prime minister decided to attack first and arrange on the line dividing Germany and Poland, tank a battle like the Battle of Kursk. The offensive was supposed to involve not only Anglo-American troops, but also German divisions, which the British planned to form from captured Wehrmacht soldiers, arming them with British and captured weapons.

They were going to start in July 1945, so that everything would end before the cold. It was assumed that British troops would stop on the Danzig - Breslau line (Gdansk - Wroclaw) in order to avoid an attack from the rear of the Soviet units located in Czechoslovakia. Then the allies were to demand the immediate withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe.

The plan was, as the American observer writes, interesting, but there was one very weak point in it that not only complicated the task, but made its implementation impossible. The fact is that the British never managed to figure out how to make the Russians surrender if they suddenly did not want to lay down their arms. After all, then you would have to step further, thousands of kilometers inland of a vast country. And both Napoleon and Hitler have already tried to do this. And nothing good for them, this venture did not end ...

In general, the British military made a good plan, showed Churchill and hid away.
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  1. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 24 May 2020 18: 37 New
    20
    They were going to start in July 1945, so that everything would end before the cold.

    One more, damn it. "Before the cold," Panimash! Another thing is that the arrogant Saxons had the mind not to rock the boat. And still enough ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 24 May 2020 18: 53 New
      +5
      Churchill Count Marlborough of the outbreak of war and Churchill after the end of the war, these are two different people. The first real man without fear and reproach, the second vile man burned out from the inside who lost the election. War spares no one.
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 24 May 2020 19: 11 New
        +7
        Anglo-Saxons in their repertoire. Nothing good can be expected from these “partners”.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 24 May 2020 20: 10 New
          +6
          Quote: 4ekist
          Anglo-Saxons in their repertoire. Nothing good can be expected from these “partners”.

          In general, the British military made a good plan, showed Churchill and hid away.

          And with the advent of Gorbachev, they got it and redid it. Eastern Europe is now under NATO ...
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 24 May 2020 20: 14 New
            16
            Quote: Civil
            Churchill Count Marlborough of the outbreak of war and Churchill after the end of the war, these are two different people. The first real man without fear and reproach, the second vile man burned out from the inside who lost the election. War spares no one.

            What does the war have to do with it?
            Churchill - the most classic English politician
            He who was not a radical in his youth — he does not have a heart;

            This is his quote. Churchill changed parties like gloves. For the sake of the political moment.
            He did not become "vile," he always was. Just before there was a different political situation.
        2. Courier
          Courier 24 May 2020 20: 27 New
          -68
          And communists like angels did not supply North Korea and Vietnam?
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 24 May 2020 20: 30 New
            17
            What is this for?
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 24 May 2020 20: 45 New
              21
              quit
              Quote: bk0010
              What is this for?

              Yes, he himself does not know, it was necessary something to the fan
        3. Courier
          Courier 24 May 2020 20: 40 New
          -75
          Because the Anglo-Saxons are judged according to one plan, one Churchill.

          And about how the Communists drove thousands of pieces of military equipment to Vietnam or Korea, this is normal.
          The post-war future showed that Churchill was right in his beliefs, the Communists did not calm down and no millions of victims could stop them.
          They set North Korea on South Korea, set the CCP on the Kuomintang, set North Vietnam on South. Provoking wars over and over again.


          Kennedy could have vaporized the entire Union in '62, had the Anglo-Saxons been so bloodthirsty this would have happened.
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 24 May 2020 20: 54 New
            23
            And here is another odious “Fighter for the truth.” Do you work out the cookies? Here the Courier is a citizen of a gear and even more modestly behaves.
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 21: 06 New
              21
              Quote: zadorin1974
              Do you work out cookies?

              These specimens are extremely interesting from a medical point of view. After all, what kind of deviations do you need to have in order to block such an inhuman plan of such a treacherous blow to your own ancestors, who at that time were already sipping beyond measure?
          2. Connor MacLeod
            Connor MacLeod 24 May 2020 21: 11 New
            23
            Quote: Courier
            Because the Anglo-Saxons are judged according to one plan, one Churchill.

            Not only. Do not forget about the plans for nuclear bombing of the USSR - Totality, Chariotir, Dropshot and others.

            Quote: Courier
            And about how the Communists drove thousands of pieces of military equipment to Vietnam or Korea, this is normal.
            The post-war future showed that Churchill was right in his beliefs, the Communists did not calm down and no millions of victims could stop them.
            They set North Korea on South Korea, set the CCP on the Kuomintang, set North Vietnam on South. Provoking wars over and over again.

            The regimes of Li Son Man and Ngo Dinh Ziem of the Communists were shot in batches. For that fought for it and ran.

            Quote: Courier
            Kennedy could have vaporized the entire Union in '62, had the Anglo-Saxons been so bloodthirsty this would have happened.

            Could, though the USSR would have evaporated the United States. And Western Europe for one.
          3. nemez
            nemez 24 May 2020 21: 13 New
            +9
            In your case, medicine is powerless. Only in the morgue.
          4. user1212
            user1212 25 May 2020 06: 17 New
            15
            Quote: Courier
            Because the Anglo-Saxons are judged according to one plan, one Churchill.

            No, there are more than 300 years of war crimes, compared with which even the German "SS" rests
            The post-war future showed that Stalin was right in his beliefs, the capitalists did not calm down and no millions of victims could stop them.
            Set South Korea on the DPRK, set the Kuomintang on the CCP, set South Vietnam on the North. Provoking wars over and over again.

            So rather laughing
            Khrushchev could evaporate the whole "West" in '62, if the Communists were so bloodthirsty, this would happen
            Now right hi
          5. CSKA
            CSKA 25 May 2020 11: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: Courier
            They set North Korea on South Korea, set the CCP on the Kuomintang, set North Vietnam on South.

            )))) Read the story carefully before writing this nonsense. Even as your version for ears can be pulled about Korea and Vietnam, then about the CCP and the Kuomintang utter nonsense.
        4. ApJlekuHo
          ApJlekuHo 25 May 2020 03: 57 New
          -10
          I wonder what you know about the repertoire of the Saxons or the British
          1. user1212
            user1212 25 May 2020 07: 27 New
            18
            Quote: ApJlekuHo
            I wonder what you know about the repertoire of the Saxons or the British

            Genocide, millions of slaves, concentration camps, British East India Company, Opium Wars. Indeed, what we know about their repertoire ... lol
      2. 16329
        16329 24 May 2020 19: 27 New
        +6
        Winston Churchill did not have the right to bear the title of Duke of Marlborough, as he was the youngest son in the family
      3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 19: 34 New
        15
        Quote: Civil
        Churchill Count Marlborough of the outbreak of war and Churchill after the end of the war, these are two different people. The first real man without fear and reproach

        What are you talking about? Wait until the opponents exhaust each other, then attack at the head of the troops gathered from all the dependent countries, and with their fresh strength, or better just to demonstrate it, force both to their conditions. This old "good" Anglo-Saxon tradition at the beginning of the Second World War was for Britons a plan for further actions, and Churchill just about this, as a man of "conservative" views, dreamed from the very beginning. This was subject to delays in opening a second front, procrastination with lend-lease, and much more. It even slips in his memoirs. But this time - it did not grow together. One of the parties in the course of the confrontation gained so much strength that it was very scary and even stupid to scramble against it.
        1. businessv
          businessv 24 May 2020 19: 54 New
          21
          Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
          One of the parties in the course of the confrontation gained so much strength that it was very scary and even stupid to pry against it.

          That's right, colleague! At the time of Victory, our army was the most efficient in the world! The author forgot to mention one more nuance, this is Churchill's request to Roosevelt for the latter to use atomic weapons against the Union. Roosevelt prudently refused.
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 24 May 2020 21: 05 New
          +3
          Good Boris N. The naglichans were bewildered for several reasons. In the Ardennes, the Germans did not roll allies into a pancake just because Zhukov had to launch an offensive under unfavorable conditions for us (under the tearful pleas of the Americans). There were several clashes between us and the allies (lice check ), where we piled on to our colleagues, we let everyone down on the brakes. Well, the famous parade of the IS-3 battalion
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 23: 22 New
            +6
            Quote: zadorin1974
            Well

            There is much to add. The power and scope of our final operations were also supposed to show the "allies" what awaits them, in the event of victory of power over common sense. They landed in order to be the first to take Berlin.
          2. Kuroneko
            Kuroneko 25 May 2020 02: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: zadorin1974
            launch an offensive under unfavorable conditions for us (under the tearful pleas of the Americans)

            No, actually. Just under the tearful pleas of Churchill, NOT Americans.
      4. Tusv
        Tusv 24 May 2020 20: 21 New
        +8
        Quote: Civil
        Churchill Count Marlborough of the outbreak of war and Churchill after the end of the war, these are two different people.

        Well, be the last head of the empire "over which the sun does not set." In the modern sense - I jumped at polymers bully And now the company has phantom pains. The Rockfeiler has long held Rothschild behind Faberge, with a special American twist
      5. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 24 May 2020 20: 44 New
        10
        Quote: Civil
        The first real man without fear and reproach

        Well, just a paladin of honor, I just want to put in a stingy male tear, well, for some reason my hand is looking for a hammer to cut into the cumpole of this "without fear and reproach"
        ps what do you think this was doing in the Boer War?
      6. +5
        +5 25 May 2020 10: 10 New
        +1
        Yes, not only the elections, in fact WWII Britain lost, with a formal presence in the composition of the winners. The USA and the USSR won, which became superpowers, and the Empire collapsed (collapsed by joint efforts) ...
    2. ApJlekuHo
      ApJlekuHo 25 May 2020 03: 55 New
      -5
      Another thing is that the arrogant Saxons had the mind not to rock the boat. And still enough ...


      Duck they once drunk half the world, they dividends for their eyes, no? Or do you say hello to friends in LONDON
    3. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs 25 May 2020 09: 00 New
      +2
      Now information has gone that it’s not just in July, but on July 1. Moreover, the Americans decided not to keep things up to date, since Roosevelt would not have taken this adventure, but simply substituted for a retaliatory strike. But on June 28, Soviet troops began to move and began to change their deployment, radically changing British plans, after which they were canceled.
  2. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 May 2020 18: 42 New
    +4
    laughing Well, he got angry — Dunkirk’s miracle wouldn’t work, otherwise On these days, French Prime Minister Raynaud phoned his colleague Churchill in London and shouted into the phone in desperation: “We are broken! We are completely broken! ” laughing
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 24 May 2020 20: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Miracle Dunkirk did not work

      Just Dunker is a miracle. And it’s quite heroic. But this is an imperialist miracle. Troops were sent to Africa to fight for their colonies. But all this was a miracle
    2. Connor MacLeod
      Connor MacLeod 25 May 2020 13: 30 New
      +2
      Yes, snatched up well! good Tank strike through the Ardennes, Manstein handsome! bully I forgive him the Third Kharkov, if only to see the dangling English nerds! drinks
  3. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 24 May 2020 18: 46 New
    +1
    In my opinion, they didn’t get to know Truman.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 24 May 2020 18: 55 New
      +3
      The "Unthinkable" plan for the American command to familiarize the British did not provide. Moreover, in August 1945, as a result of the work of the headquarters of the American General Dwight Eisenhower, the “Totality” plan was developed, when the first atomic bombs began to come into service. Their number and production capabilities were very limited, as well as delivery vehicles (exclusively bombers). He was thought by President Harry Truman to mislead the USSR about the real nuclear capabilities of the United States in the postwar years. "Totality" implied the bombardment of several major cities of the alleged enemy with nuclear bombs. The list included Moscow, Gorky (Nizhny Novgorod), Kuibyshev (Samara), Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg), Novosibirsk, Omsk, Saratov, Kazan, Leningrad (St. Petersburg), Baku, Tashkent, Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, Magnitogorsk, Molotov (Perm ), Tbilisi, Stalin (Novokuznetsk), Grozny, Irkutsk and Yaroslavl - only 20 cities. Meanwhile, the United States did not have 20 atomic bombs in August 1945. The only two atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
  4. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 24 May 2020 18: 48 New
    16
    The Unimaginable Plan did not win the approval of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which calculated that quick success in such a war was impossible because of the superiority of the USSR in manpower and military equipment by 2,6 times, and in aviation by 1,5 times.
    1. Courier
      Courier 24 May 2020 20: 30 New
      -22
      Excellence in aviation? lol
      Did the Americans know about this?
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 May 2020 20: 38 New
        +8
        Quote: Courier
        Excellence in aviation?

        absolutely right. You read the text of the plan, it is on the network :))))
      2. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 24 May 2020 20: 53 New
        +6
        Do you consider exclusively strategic aviation ?!
        By the way, the Americans tried to clash with us and got snotty from Kozhedub, after they said that they allegedly attacked by mistake, but I think there was a test of strength
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 24 May 2020 18: 51 New
    +2
    Politicians and the military are required to develop plans for all cases of the vagaries of geopolitics. Caring for his Britain, Churchill was simply obliged to develop his "drop-shot". This is a routine of politics.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 24 May 2020 19: 02 New
      -1
      Quote: samarin1969
      Caring for Britain's Churchill

      Churchill did not care about Britain, the result of his policy was the complete subjugation of the British by the Americans, what is now called "special relations," that is, if translated, Britain's vassal dependence on the United States.
      Churchill merely announced such plans; he was allowed to do so.
    2. Altona
      Altona 24 May 2020 19: 02 New
      -4
      Quote: samarin1969
      Politicians and the military are required to develop plans for all cases of the vagaries of geopolitics. Caring for his Britain, Churchill was simply obliged to develop his "drop-shot". This is a routine of politics.

      ---------------------------
      I wonder if such a plan really existed or was it a thrown bike that began to live its own life? And what could one hope to achieve victory in such a war? The land component of the combined forces had neither the experience nor the capabilities of the Soviet army, even if the numbers had been increased to the required level. The power of the fleet and allied aviation is also impossible to use to their full potential. To establish cooperation overnight with a former enemy, that is, the Wehrmacht, is also problematic. It is not clear what the Duke of Marlborough was betting on.
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 24 May 2020 19: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: Altona
        I wonder if such a plan really existed or was it a thrown bike that began to live its own life? And what could one hope to achieve victory in such a war?

        Churchill instructed the military to make a plan, they made it. Then they discussed the prospects and that’s all. There were no opportunities to implement the "Unthinkable" plan.
        1. knn54
          knn54 24 May 2020 19: 16 New
          -2
          -It was so crazy that the British military called the plan of the attack on the USSR "Unthinkable."
          Unthinkable ... VILLAGE / LYCEPHEMISM ..
        2. Altona
          Altona 24 May 2020 19: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Churchill instructed the military to make a plan, they made it. Then they discussed the prospects and that’s all. There were no opportunities to implement the "Unthinkable" plan.

          ---------------------------
          Any sane military would not even tezisno plan such an event in view of its complete futility at that time. But it is, thoughts aloud.
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 19: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            Any sane military would not even tezisno plan such an event in view of its complete futility at that time

            The move was planned at the beginning of the war. Rejecting such a pleasing plan for thoughts was not so simple. They convinced themselves with the arguments of the staff, who were entrusted with calculating everything. That’s the whole point of the “plan”
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 19: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Altona
        I wonder if such a plan really existed or was it a thrown bike that began to live its own life?

        Churchill talks about him in his memoirs.
    3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 19: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: samarin1969
      for all occasions

      They did not, however, have a plan to capture the United States.
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 24 May 2020 19: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Quote: samarin1969
        for all occasions

        They did not, however, have a plan to capture the United States.

        ... gentlemen could well assume that the Yankees could share spheres of influence with Hitler. If you remove the Masonic ideals, then the United States with England had more contradictions than with the Reich. I admit that the Imperial General Staff could calculate the hostile actions of the United States in the early 40s.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 20: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: samarin1969
          I admit that the Imperial General Staff could calculate

          You can allow anything. And if you look at the facts, then we still have a plan of attack on us. Yes, even at such a moment
          1. samarin1969
            samarin1969 24 May 2020 20: 56 New
            0
            Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Quote: samarin1969
            I admit that the Imperial General Staff could calculate

            You can allow anything. And if you look at the facts, then we still have a plan of attack on us. Yes, even at such a moment


            These are only the facts that are published. Inconvenient facts are usually buried more reliably.
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 21: 13 New
              +3
              Quote: samarin1969
              Inconvenient facts are usually buried more reliably.

              This is not a reason to invent them.
  6. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 24 May 2020 18: 53 New
    0
    At all times, the Englishwoman is the most capricious girl, and even shit anywhere hi .
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 May 2020 12: 31 New
      +2
      She is not a girl, she is an old maid ...
  7. Victor_B
    Victor_B 24 May 2020 18: 55 New
    +4
    Bravery and stupidity!
    Churchill is an entire era, he is the last successive adherent of the Great British Empire.
    Until recently, he believed that an empire could be preserved.
    He foresaw (and quite rightly) that a successful struggle for the independence of the British colonies was possible only with the support of the USSR.
    Therefore, he saw the Soviet Union as the main enemy.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 24 May 2020 19: 15 New
      +1
      And yet, after.
      Was the "Unthinkable" plan approved and accepted for execution or is it just a study of possible actions?
      As far as I remember, German prisoners of war in British camps maintained their army structure and discipline, full-time weapons were stored in warehouses nearby.
      Those. could really be armed and thrown into battle.
      1. cniza
        cniza 25 May 2020 12: 30 New
        +1
        It looks more like the imagination of an American journalist, but there were no doubts about the issues worked out.
  8. Sayan
    Sayan 24 May 2020 18: 57 New
    +8
    The weakest point in this regard was that they were going to fight with the most efficient army in the world — the Red Army, which had colossal combat experience, and the British mountain warriors understood.
  9. Svarog
    Svarog 24 May 2020 19: 06 New
    +7
    In general, the British military made a good plan, showed Churchill and hid away.

    The British have always been conspirators and instigators, now the baton is with the United States, but who knows, if Churchill took a chance, England might be part of the USSR, like all of Europe. In the 45th, the USSR was already the strongest and most combat ready army in the world. Another question, of course, is that people are already tired of the war.
  10. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 24 May 2020 19: 07 New
    0
    the anti-Hitler coalition is an involuntary ally ...
  11. Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 May 2020 19: 24 New
    +2
    The very idea of ​​starting another after such a large-scale war was so insane that the British military called the “Unthinkable” a plan of attack on the USSR

    Rather, the idea of ​​starting a war at almost a 100% chance of snatching lule in the end gave the name to this operation.
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 24 May 2020 19: 32 New
    +6
    At that time, this madness could have faded only in one case - if it had begun with the atomic bombing of Soviet cities, in a clean field, the Britons had no chance at all against the then Red Army - they would have torn the heating pad like an ace. And there couldn’t be any bombing, because: 1) Americans probably didn’t get acquainted with the plan 2) The nuclear stock was not enough and the Americans needed it for Japanese goals that were much more important for them at that time 3) Again, the Americans needed help from The USSR in the war with Japan, and that was at that moment far more relevant than all the unthinkable plans. So developed and put on the shelf and thank God ... for everyone ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 May 2020 22: 46 New
      0
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      At that time, this madness could have faded only in one case - if its execution had begun with the atomic bombings of Soviet cities

      So Churchill did not have an atomic bomb. In October 1952, Britain became the third country to test a self-developed nuclear weapon.
  13. LeonidL
    LeonidL 24 May 2020 20: 01 New
    +3
    “In general, the British military made a good plan, showed Churchill and hid it away.” - Not only hid the plan away, but after the election hid Churchill just in case, just to become toxic for the dilapidated British Empire, which clearly lost its status and a great power and mistress of the seas.
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 May 2020 08: 52 New
      +2
      Apparently this plan finished it off, but whether this plan was at all ... it seems to me that they had only Wishlist, and there were zero opportunities.
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL 25 May 2020 16: 46 New
        +1
        The plan was now declassified. Churchill had a Wishlist, the Wishlist failed ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 25 May 2020 17: 35 New
          +2
          The first who would be against it is the USA, but they did not inform them ...
  14. Eug
    Eug 24 May 2020 20: 23 New
    +2
    This reality is very interestingly described in Anisimov’s novel "Option" Bis "".
  15. NordUral
    NordUral 24 May 2020 20: 50 New
    -1
    Then it was assumed that after the victory over Hitler, most of the American troops would be transferred to the Pacific Ocean against Japan. And then, according to Churchill, if Stalin decides not to confine himself to Eastern Europe and moves his troops further, then there will be no one to stop him.

    Churchill's cowardice was underestimated in contrast to his abilities.
  16. nikolai.shupenin
    nikolai.shupenin 24 May 2020 20: 50 New
    -13
    in vain Churchill changed his mind, would now live in England
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 24 May 2020 21: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: nikolai.shupenin
      would live now in england

      “We agreed so much that victory over Hitler seemed to be of no use to us:“ If we lost the war, we would now drink Bavarian beer. ”No. Gentlemen, if we lost the war, now you would slurp and collect scraps from the master's table, as befits slaves. "
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 May 2020 22: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: nikolai.shupenin
      in vain Churchill changed his mind, would now live in England

      They wanted to become an Aglitsky slave?
    3. svp67
      svp67 25 May 2020 07: 01 New
      0
      Quote: nikolai.shupenin
      in vain Churchill changed his mind, would now live in England

      What is stopping now?
    4. cniza
      cniza 25 May 2020 08: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: nikolai.shupenin
      in vain Churchill changed his mind, would now live in England


      And who is stopping you from living there now, in my opinion no problems ...
  17. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 24 May 2020 22: 17 New
    -3
    You can’t take blogger articles in popular magazines at face value.
    This Mike Peck brought an excerpt from alternative story based on Jonathan Walker’s Churchill's Third World War


    In fact, in the spring of 1945, Churchill was not up to plans for an attack on the USSR. There, the matter went to the elections in which he failed and even at the Potsdam Conference only half of the term was present. He was replaced by Clement Atley.
    By the way, he made his famous Fulton speech, which is considered to be the starting point of the Cold War, as a leader of the opposition for a long time. He will return to big politics only in October 1951. hi
  18. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 24 May 2020 22: 22 New
    +1
    Again daytime Jan ижižka showed up? wink .
  19. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 May 2020 22: 41 New
    +2
    Therefore, the British prime minister decided to attack first and arrange on the line dividing Germany and Poland, a tank battle like the Battle of Kursk.
    Churchill had desires, but there was no strength.
  20. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 24 May 2020 22: 47 New
    -3
    The absence of such a “good plan” in case of Hitler’s attack cost our country great sacrifices.
    So such a plan is better than none. Bad things happen ..
  21. Maks1995
    Maks1995 24 May 2020 23: 16 New
    0
    And, again, they dug up something and distorted everything.
    The unthinkable has been persuaded for a long time from all sides
    Only, I see from the comments - for some reason people are completely off topic


    Informed people wrote earlier that the plan was completely different.
    If the USSR goes to capture France, that is, it will strike at the troops of the Anglo-Saxons and Amers, then grab all who are at hand — Germans, Austrians, French — to arm with what is, including trophies, and use as cannon fodder with the English and amers.
    .
    Nobody expected any victory, since the USSR seemed to have 6 roofing felts, 9 tank armies roofing felts in Europe, and the United States - either one, roofing felts 2. And the 6 atomic bombs available to the USA then did not help ...

    It would be good to hold him back to the lamb - and that would be good ...

  22. signifera
    signifera 25 May 2020 06: 17 New
    +1
    very similar to the fantastic story for the new film))) But I wonder why they were sure that they could win this grandiose tank battle? What captive Germans will agree to once again go into battle against us for certain death? And what is the only problem is to finish everything before the cold. It looks like winter, you can safely let all our military go home))) At that time, our army was abruptly all the “allies” put together, seasoned and experienced fighters, equipment, weapons, the whole country was imprisoned for war. It would be just that the USSR would become much larger and their island would become a part. With a strait of name ... some worthy marshal or general at that time.
  23. K-50
    K-50 25 May 2020 06: 35 New
    +2
    We were going to start in July 1945, so that everything would end before the cold

    One already wanted to "finish before the cold," then he had to poison himself so as not to get on the gallows.
    Fat hog would also be then taken away! am
  24. svp67
    svp67 25 May 2020 07: 00 New
    -1
    They were going to start in July 1945, so that everything would end before the cold.
    Considering Japan, which was not defeated, by this time, this plan is definitely INCREASABLE ...
  25. cniza
    cniza 25 May 2020 08: 45 New
    +2
    in the spring of 1945, he gave his military analysts a task that they could not even expect from such an original as the British prime minister. He instructed them to develop a plan of attack on the USSR.


    That is the whole politics and essence of the West ...
  26. +5
    +5 25 May 2020 09: 55 New
    +1
    Fantazer ... taking into account the fact that 45 divisions and 214 brigades (plus Hungarians) fought against the USSR in the 40 m, and on the western front there were about 70 second-rate divisions, and the speed of advancement of us and the allies was the same, the answer to the question "who whom "obvious (let us recall the Ardennes shame) ... of course, one can hope for an undefeated Wehrmacht and a contingent surrendered to the allies, but an attempt to remilitarize them will immediately open. Well, the Yankees were somehow bigger than the Tommies and it depended on where and how to fight .... and the Yankees and Uncle Joe recently decided from Ymperiya her pearl - to take away India, i.e. finished off the Empire .... and ... this, how to defeat Japan completely, without the USSR?
  27. milestone
    milestone 25 May 2020 15: 54 New
    0
    I wonder what could be counted on if the plan was implemented? that the capitalist troops are bending the battle-hardened Soviet people ideologically soaked from head to foot to crush anyone who comes with a sword? Oh well
    1. cniza
      cniza 25 May 2020 17: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: milestone
      I wonder what could be counted on if the plan was implemented?


      Only a miracle ...
  28. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 25 May 2020 17: 15 New
    -2
    Is this gossip or are there documents?
  29. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 25 May 2020 22: 18 New
    +1

    yes these are two acrobat brothers
  30. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 26 May 2020 12: 09 New
    0
    An analogy can be drawn between the Polish attack in 1920, the Poles being driven back to their capital and the help of the "friends" of Poland to defeat the Bolsheviks while trying to take the capital between the German attacks. A similar plan of assistance to Germany would have taken place if the Germans had not shown aggression against the "friends" themselves, and the Bolsheviks were no longer those near Warsaw, it was so difficult to break them down.
  31. Alexander Sobko
    Alexander Sobko 26 May 2020 14: 56 New
    0
    There is no need to argue with liberals. It is necessary to apply the principle of Aristotle: "You can reach the scoundrel's conscience only with slaps