Czech Press: Russia does not have the right to demand eternal gratitude from us for release

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The Czech Republic and some other countries of Eastern Europe have become the battlefield that Russia uses today to strengthen its political influence. And although 75 years have passed since the end of World War II, the events of this bloody and large-scale war in stories humanity is still relevant.

That’s how the expert in political geography M. Romancov argues in his article published by Denik N.

Romantsov believes that Russia has no right to impose its interpretation of the history of World War II on the rest of the world and demand eternal gratitude for liberation from Nazism.



He does not deny that the Russians cannot be indifferent to the topic of war, they perceive it very emotionally. And no one has the right, according to the expert, to impose on Russians their opinion on what and why they feel.

The author also does not argue that the Czech Republic suffered from the war incomparably less than Russia and even neighboring Poland. As well as the fact that Czech industry made a great contribution to the formation of the military power of the Wehrmacht. But at the same time, he believes that these facts have nothing to do with modernity.

Romantsov also recalls that the Soviet Union also contributed to the strengthening of German military power. After all, he very actively supplied Germany before it attacked the USSR, with oil, food, metal, and valuable raw materials. That is, all those that were catastrophically lacking in the powerful industry and army of the Third Reich to conquer Europe.

The author emphasizes the decisive role of the USSR in the defeat of Nazism, but believes that the blood shed by Soviet fighters could have been in vain if Germany had won. And without material and technical assistance from the Allies, victory, Romantsov claims, could have come much later or not at all.

He also recalled that all countries from which the Red Army expelled the Nazis, with the exception of Austria and the Danish island of Bornholm, became puppets of the USSR after the war.

Of course, Russia never disputed the significant contribution of the Allies, but did not let it be forgotten that the victory was achieved at the cost of tremendous sacrifices, especially of Soviet soldiers. And therefore, our country today demands respect from the states that were liberated from the Nazis by our soldiers.
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      1. GMM
        -8
        24 May 2020 10: 19
        And what exactly do you have to do with the liberation of the Czech Republic?
        1. +8
          24 May 2020 11: 42
          Whose will you be? From the Vlasov liberators of Prague or from ...?
          1. +45
            24 May 2020 13: 30
            Czech politicians, of course, can treat monuments in their own country as they want to. As the saying goes, every nation deserves its government. And this is their "internal" business.
            But Russia can treat other countries as their governments deserve. And this is our business.
            1. +10
              24 May 2020 17: 37
              Quote: Shurik70
              Czech politicians, of course, can treat monuments in their own country as they want to. As the saying goes, every nation deserves its government. And this is their "internal" business.
              But Russia can treat other countries as their governments deserve. And this is our business.


              Only we need to do this inevitably, so that everyone knows that we will come ...
              1. 0
                25 May 2020 09: 57
                Quote: cniza
                Quote: Shurik70
                Czech politicians, of course, can treat monuments in their own country as they want to. As the saying goes, every nation deserves its government. And this is their "internal" business.
                But Russia can treat other countries as their governments deserve. And this is our business.


                Only we need to do this inevitably, so that everyone knows that we will come ...

                But is it necessary to come? Let them die out, since they so want it.
                1. +3
                  25 May 2020 12: 41
                  You can come in many ways, your offer is interesting. Yes
            2. +1
              25 May 2020 12: 25
              there is no eternal gratitude; there will be no respect for eternal sneezes.
              1. IC
                0
                26 May 2020 03: 25
                You are very sad
                1. 0
                  26 May 2020 11: 59
                  I don’t need much, if there would be a native country ... and others - as the military from the sofas will say here
        2. -5
          24 May 2020 18: 48
          Quote: mmg
          And what exactly do you have to do with the liberation of the Czech Republic?


          Born in the USSR.
      2. -29
        24 May 2020 10: 41
        What gratitude? Just kneel down when you see us.


        Shaw, right on your knees or all the same with a layer on the floor? The war hero, damn it, drew .... probably in the parades and on the ass glitter hangs ...
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      3. +43
        24 May 2020 10: 51
        Quote: sergo1914
        What gratitude?

        Nobody demands virtue, for it is the impulse of the saved one and depends on his conscience.

        These cattle have no conscience, respectively, no thanks

        They are required of another: recognition of OBJECTIVE facts, namely, thatthen the USSR saved them from slavery and wild shame , namely, from conscientious service to their Nazis.

        Unfortunately, only now Russia is pulling out documents and pokes in the muzzle to these "innocent Eastern European" sheep, pointing out their true, extremely DIRTY and vile role in unleashing the war, in all kinds of support for the Nazis with people, resources, approval, money, etc., without which the Germans would not have lasted so long.

        Recall, at least, HEROICALLY, without regard for losses and danger, as soon as possible , Czechs rebuilt military factories destroyed by American bombers, delighting their beloved Fuhrer.

        In Ostrava, they fired and sent shells for him until the last minute: ours were already in the CITY, already under our fire!

        And they were forgiven ... But it was impossible to forgive!

        PS Romantsov is the same "expert" as from a bullet ....
        1. +25
          24 May 2020 11: 21
          Yes Yes. I remembered how once the workers of "Skoda" went on strike, demanding higher wages. But only once, because they were clearly explained that such tricks do not work in the Reich. And they understood.
        2. +8
          24 May 2020 12: 20
          in this, there was a BIG MISTAKE of the USSR that they hid these documents, it was always necessary to keep these documents openly, now they would not spit in our country ....
          1. -1
            25 May 2020 08: 34
            The USSR hid all the documents, just in case.
        3. +13
          24 May 2020 13: 00
          You just need to understand, they DO NOT THINK that serving the Nazis is slavery and shame, for them it is normal. They are now serving Phillington, which are no different from those Nazis, they all live in the destruction of colonies and the genocide of peoples. All this remained, only the appearance changed a little, they were and will be so.
          What difference does it make to Hitler’s servants or Amers’s?
          1. +1
            25 May 2020 12: 30
            Normal European vassal mentality ... When was it different for Europeans, especially for those that have been changing hands for centuries?
        4. +3
          24 May 2020 17: 07
          These cattle have no conscience, respectively, there is no gratitude either.

          That's it, cattle.
          1. +3
            25 May 2020 11: 56
            Quote: 4ekist
            These cattle have no conscience, respectively, there is no gratitude either.

            That's it, cattle.

            They could not defend their homeland before the Nazis, so now they still have no eternal gratitude to the liberators. Spit and grind on such. And do not forget for yourself how we were treated. The earth is round.
        5. +2
          24 May 2020 21: 00
          Quote: Olgovich
          These cattle have no conscience, respectively, no thanks

          Fiercely plus! hi
        6. +6
          24 May 2020 23: 49
          The country is a chameleon, if not obscene. Adjust to any system that will try to dominate.
        7. 0
          25 May 2020 10: 02
          Quote: Olgovich
          And they were forgiven ... But it was impossible to forgive!

          was it necessary to commit genocide throughout Europe? This would threaten to shake the moral position of the USSR - like the Spanish Inquisition. It is clear that every survivor is under German. You can’t shut your throat with a brainwashed boot (there are probably hundreds of thousands of them), but the massacre is not an option: they would still have slaughtered (suspecting everyone and everyone, like during the Yezhov NKVD), and people would like to live their own hunt (even erroneous) have an opinion - maybe the Red Army shot or planted a relative with him - his right to be offended. Which exit? - Honestly, I don’t know, but not genocide.
          1. 0
            25 May 2020 10: 48
            Quote: Lycan
            was it necessary to commit genocide throughout Europe? This would threaten to shake the moral position of the USSR - like the Spanish Inquisition. It is clear that every survivor is under German. You can’t shut your throat with a brainwashed boot (there are probably hundreds of thousands of them), but the massacre is not an option: they would still have slaughtered (suspecting everyone and everyone, like during the Yezhov NKVD), and people would like to live their own hunt (even erroneous) have an opinion - maybe the Red Army shot or planted a relative with him - his right to be offended. Which exit? - Honestly, I don’t know, but not genocide

            Of course, no genocides!
            God forbid.

            BUT! They needed to call a spade a spade by name and it should have been already in 1945: the Czechs shamefully surrendered to their equal enemy, handing them a bunch of weapons, transferred the powerful military industry, initiatively, honestly, worked in military factories, NOT partisan
            , fought on the sides of the Nazis (many), staged the most vile genocide of peaceful fellow Germans.

            And for all this, they should have been convicted and punished with money, factories, works, bases.

            And they should have been paid up to now, for what Europe has done to us is innumerable by savagery and damage.
            1. 0
              25 May 2020 11: 34
              Quote: Olgovich
              And for all this, they should have been condemned and punished with money, factories, works, bases.

              In the post-war period - yes, I agree, and even some decades after, while the compulsion to reparations (spurred on by all-round pressure in case of non-compliance) works, but .. who will force them if there is no uniform pressure on this issue? Yes, and the late USSR with the present-day RF - what influence do they have there? No longer. Aggregate Europe has decided to self-integrate in all its scope, regardless of the past. Apparently, this is a sacrifice in the name of more far-sighted integration goals, rather than just parasitizing on individual countries, causing a development contrast and, thus, unbalancing the "European order". A kind of Marshall plan on a micro-scale in exchange for the right to spread common European rights, standards, and deploy troops to rotats. basis and logistic. schemes.
              1. 0
                25 May 2020 11: 49
                Quote: Lycan
                but ... who will force them if there is no single pressure on this issue? Yes, and the late USSR with the current Russian Federation - what influence do they have (had) there?

                bases should have been set after WWII for 100 years, for example
                1. 0
                  25 May 2020 12: 14
                  100 years is at least 3 generations. Well, who will work conscientiously there, if the lion's share goes to reparations, and only crumbs for development? And what is there to do in Cesia? (and not only in the Czech Republic - to set up bases in all European countries that worked for the 3rd Reich - and this is not a cheap event for the USSR). All the young generation will leave. And all previous generations will form an unspoken culture "to support their own on the way to emigration."
                2. +1
                  25 May 2020 12: 45
                  Civilized countries set for 99 years wink
            2. DDT
              -3
              25 May 2020 21: 28
              You outplayed the amiable tanks?
              1) Surrendered to an equal opponent ?!
              Are you sure about that? Does this mean that we blew the Soviet Union 3 years of war what is there Czechoslovakia? So the USSR was so weak? You get excited, but do not fall into delirium tremens.
              2) They fought on the side of the Nazis, here a friend described in more detail that there were no more Czechs and Poles in the Nazi army than our traitors, Vlasovites. And I will not write about all sorts of Cossack, Ukrainian, Caucasian and Turkestan legions, they were also citizens of the USSR. Traitors and fought by the way, with their own people. not with strangers.
              3) They were paid by all this. Or didn’t you have a Czech headset at home?
              In general, your Internet "drove" hints at other Aryan heresy ... So you yourself are a comrade, whose will you be? Do you have anything to do with the USSR?
          2. 0
            25 May 2020 12: 34
            Why genocide? It was not necessary to hide the truth about the true situation and relations with the Germans throughout Europe, that's all.
            1. -2
              25 May 2020 14: 04
              Quote: EVDmitri
              It was not necessary to hide the truth about the true situation and relations with the Germans throughout Europe

              Who shouldn't have hidden the truth? THE USSR? What was he hiding?
              Czechs? And what - for decades to engage in self-flagellation about this? From their point of view, it's stupid. Because it is wiser and more far-sighted in the post-war years to develop a completely different (European integration) reputation, and if anyone is interested in the facts of the past years, everything is in the archives. Which are for official use. Self-flagellation, foolishness and other similar activities are a rotten thing. Then there will be no wash. And so: "Error" in choosing a favorite happens to everyone. And now - we take on development: who what offers / wants to receive and how can we improve the country by tying up the services that develop us? "
      4. +47
        24 May 2020 11: 24
        My grandfather ended the war in Prague with a company commander of 175 guards. joint venture, 58 guards. sd, 1Ukr.Fr. I do not have the right to thanks for his courage, but I would very much like the Czechs not to forget the soldiers who brought them a revival of statehood. It is still much easier to change the political system than to revive a national state.
        1. +7
          24 May 2020 12: 12
          And what about the Czechs, was there ever a national state?
          All their lives they were someone else's vassals or second-rate allies ...
        2. +4
          24 May 2020 20: 07
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          My grandfather ended the war in Prague with a company commander of 175 guards. joint venture, 58 guards. sd, 1Ukr.Fr. I do not have the right to gratitude for his courage, but I would very much like that the Czechs did not forget a soldier who brought them a revival of statehood.


          then, in May 1945, they all understood very well.

          That's what 10 May 1945 Mr. declared the mayor of Prague Peter Zenkl (the same city hall that demolished the memory of Konev in 2020) on behalf of the townspeople to our soldiers:
          “Our city was saved from death and destruction and torn from the clutches of the Nazis primarily by the heroic Red Army.

          Dear brothers!

          Unparalleled Heroism and the incomparable sacrifice of Soviet soldiers in this terrible world war made history. But not only in history - they also entered the hearts of all the inhabitants of Prague and the entire Czechoslovak people ”.

          Like this...
          75 years have passed and? request
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          It is still much easier to change the political system than to revive a national state.


          It's hard to disagree ... hi
        3. 0
          25 May 2020 10: 04
          Can Czechs of those times and remained grateful. But their children are a different generation with, perhaps, slightly different landmarks. Well, the children of their children - in general, can be distinguished by immodesty, "flexibility" and total shortsightedness of guidelines.
          1. +1
            25 May 2020 10: 57
            Quote: Lycan
            Maybe the Czechs of those times remained grateful. But their children are a different generation with, perhaps, slightly different landmarks. Well, the children of their children - in general, can be distinguished by immodesty, "flexibility" and total shortsightedness of guidelines

            and what has changed since then?

            Liberation from the Nazis is no longer a fact? No

            The Nazis ceased to be a recognized embodiment of evil? No.

            Liberation from evil is, accordingly, Good.

            This is what they require from RESPECT. And it's all.
            1. 0
              25 May 2020 12: 04
              Quote: Olgovich
              and what has changed since then?

              orientation from self-awareness as a "victim" to "achieving new frontiers in a dynamic modern world."
              Quote: Olgovich
              Liberation from the Nazis is no longer a fact?

              No, but the "Ghost of Communism" (apparently) haunted the Czechs all the post-war period and the competent work of the media with the "equalization" of communism and Nazism - yields its results, adjusting to the capitalist-consumer channel, which (ideologically) did not in any way affect the internal structure of the Czechs ... Here (as they think) this is: doing business - there is money; you just work for your uncle - something rings in your pockets; if you don't work, you are homeless. All in your hands.
              Quote: Olgovich
              The Nazis ceased to be a recognized embodiment of evil? No

              In the Baltic countries, since the 90s, they have acquired the romantic gloss of a pseudo-knightly shtetl style. Governments do not prohibit veterans' processions, well, young people, of course, hang out nearby, adopt "wisdom". Their "personification of evil" is skillfully extinguished and replaced by the image of defeated heroes. As if - the Germans - yes, the "grave mistake" of the attitude to humanity, and that generation - almost died out. Well, the Balts, who voluntarily joined the ranks of the "strong anti-Bolshevik machine", defended their homeland from (as they call it) the "red plague" (who is looking there - did they take the oath to the Fuhrer or not? - it seemed necessary). Heroes, in general, .. yes, with attendant human (Soviet) losses. A necessary sacrifice, so to speak :)
              Quote: Olgovich
              Liberation from evil is, respectively, Good

              These days, the strong ideological media that there is eviland what - good - a question of interpretation. So I heard from many:
              - There were no consumer goods in the 80s and until the end of the USSR and the line for everything, is it evil? Evil!
              - Not allowed abroad - evil? Evil!
              - The neglected monuments of the medieval. are cultures evil? Evil!
              - Around the pro-Soviet propaganda and the history of the CPSU - evil? - Evil!
              - deficit zapadn. culture, goods, music - evil? Evil!
              - KGB horror stories are evil? Evil!
              ... In the 90s, we got rid of the "evil". And fascism ... video chronicles of their crimes ... as if a myth is already being studied optional, like murals on Egyptian temples - few people remember in order to believe it every day.
          2. IC
            0
            26 May 2020 03: 34
            And the children have other historical landmarks - August 1968. This is closer to the current generation, as well as the communist regime established by Stalin.
            1. 0
              26 May 2020 08: 26
              Wait - Comm. Stalin's regime ended in 1953, a long way off for the "current generation." Further - Khrushchev / Brezhnev.
              However, one must understand that the Prague Spring entailed a gradual course towards democratization and preparing society for mental inclusion in the pro-Western course. Therefore, August 68th happened.
      5. +1
        24 May 2020 11: 26
        Conclusions for the future must be made that in any war, Russia should free only its territory from the invaders, and let the rest solve the problems as they want and how they can!
        1. +12
          24 May 2020 12: 55
          Quote: Thrifty
          Conclusions for the future must be made that in any war, Russia should free only its territory from the invaders, and let the rest solve the problems as they want and how they can!

          Ideally, I agree!

          But in practice, imagine, we would leave Hitler alone near Brest or in East Prussia, in Romania and with oil ..

          The next attack is inevitable, Hitler will recover and go!

          So the only way out is to finish off, to decide radically ..

          Of course, knowing today's realities, the details could have been reconsidered: Prague itself and its surroundings could not have been liberated, saving the lives of thousands of ours — let the Americans they loved take more bombing and shooting in cities: save not Vienna’s monuments, but lives ours, etc.
          1. -1
            24 May 2020 13: 15
            It will be more correct to liberate our and their territory from invaders.
          2. 0
            25 May 2020 08: 38
            The commander in chief had other thoughts, he was not a humanist like you
        2. -9
          24 May 2020 13: 31
          Stalin forgot to ask you what to release him, maybe Putin will consult? :))
        3. +5
          24 May 2020 14: 02
          Well, it wasn’t fascist Germany to leave, and leaving these colonies to leave the Germans from Tula was not reasonable.
        4. +5
          24 May 2020 17: 34
          Quote: Thrifty
          Conclusions for the future must be made that in any war, Russia should free only its territory from the invaders, and let the rest solve the problems as they want and how they can!


          Not everything is so simple, we had to create a buffer zone, for the possibility of recovery and to have a security belt.
        5. +4
          24 May 2020 20: 24
          winners write a story and that story is not so black and white
          ..... The German-speaking population with the advent of the Republic of Czechoslovakia in 1918 was almost three million Germans living at that time in Bohemia, Moravia and Czech Silesia and after the signing of the Munich Agreement, the Third Reich annexed the Sudetenland. Its residents met this decision with enthusiasm - their role in this was played by rising unemployment and oppression by the Czechoslovak authorities ....
    2. +35
      24 May 2020 10: 05
      Russia has the right, even should, FOREVER remember the ingratitude and meanness of the same Czech Republic
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      2. IC
        +1
        26 May 2020 03: 36
        Poor Russia Not broadcasting. Surrounded by solid traitors
    3. +18
      24 May 2020 10: 10
      And what exactly was demanded ??? Any reparations ??? But it was possible, right? For example the factories "Skoda". So why is there a medal "for the liberation of Prague" ??? Maybe it was necessary to mint another "for the capture" ??? Nobody demands anything from them, except for historical memory and the fight against monuments.
    4. +12
      24 May 2020 10: 19
      The author emphasizes the decisive role of the USSR in the defeat of Nazism, but believes that the blood shed by Soviet fighters could have been in vain if Germany had won.
      Campaign, this Czech just needs to watch one movie ...
      1. +4
        24 May 2020 13: 14
        Yes, no matter what it is not Cech, an ordinary Bandera from the outskirts.
    5. +18
      24 May 2020 10: 20
      political geography expert M.Romantsov (Michael Romancov) smile


      I read his articles ... he certainly does not belong to the friends of Russia ... I think this person is one of the NATO information forces.
      1. -2
        25 May 2020 11: 52
        It seems that he said everything correctly.
    6. +28
      24 May 2020 10: 20
      Look how they started talking! Slave essence will always manifest. The army of Czechoslovakia was perfectly armed and trained. But she did not fulfill her duty ... to defend her country ... And then they worked together in the factories, supplying the Nazi army. Slave what do you need? So that the owner pats the withers a little and fills the bowl in time ... And now, when NATO bases are located on the territory, the factories do not belong to the Czechs. And no one asks Chekhov what they want. They order ... without going into details ...
      1. +3
        24 May 2020 22: 47
        In 1968, the "army" of Czechoslovakia, the same "SAVED". The Hungarians in Budapest 1956 - "snapped back", but the Hungarians are Magyars who have conquered their homeland on the Danube, not the Czechs ...
        1. -3
          25 May 2020 08: 42
          In 68, Soviet soldiers also died there, but Czechoslovakia remembers them differently, and Konev was in Prague on the eve of the introduction of troops.
          1. 0
            25 May 2020 19: 54
            Fulfilling the order of the President of Czechoslovakia and the Commander-in-Chief of the Supreme Council of the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic, Ludwik Svoboda, the Czechoslovak People’s Army did not resist. Yes, 11 Soviet soldiers died, 87 (including 19 officers) were wounded, and the wife of a Czechoslovak officer, a Soviet citizen, was lynched. This was done by civilians. In the Hungarian uprising of October 23 - November 9, 1956, 706 Soviet soldiers were killed, 1540 wounded and 51 went missing. The army of Hungary and the staff of the AVH have 53 killed and 289 wounded.
            1. 0
              25 May 2020 20: 47
              In Prague, I heard about the storming of the TV tower, and there possible participants and those who know said it was very hot, but did not find any confirmation.
    7. +9
      24 May 2020 10: 27
      But at the same time, he believes that these facts have nothing to do with modernity.
      Yes, it can be seen, and what else, since the monuments demolish and verbalize the main meaning of the Victory and our main contribution to it. The double impression of the retelling of the Czech article seems to be a lot like the truth, but the lodges remain ... as from the person whom you once helped a lot, and then he craps the little things behind your back and, in a direct conversation, falsely smiles .
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 17: 00
        And this is how propaganda works, a little truth, a little half-truth, a little lie. And then just gradually change the proportions
        1. +3
          24 May 2020 17: 30
          Quote: Mitroha
          And this is how propaganda works, a little truth, a little half-truth, a little lie. And then just gradually change the proportions


          Yes, the classic work of propaganda ...
    8. +17
      24 May 2020 10: 32
      Interestingly, today, in the light of Trump's statements about their "decisive" role in the war, will this expert risk walking around the United States in the same manner? Doubts torment me ... Once upon a time Czechoslovakia was, perhaps, a puppet of the USSR. And now it has been divided into parts, and the Czech Republic has become a US puppet. What is the difference? Only in the fact that under the USSR it is equal among equals, and today the Czech Republic, as a part of Europe 2 speeds, feeds on what is not allowed to be consumed in Germany. Take pride in your progress. But I agree that it's enough to remind the Red Army of their duty, they remember everything perfectly and without reminders. There are no countries where there are no qualified historians. The Czech Republic and its like should be beaten like a petty naughty dog, and hard. Economically
      1. -11
        24 May 2020 11: 41
        and today the Czech Republic, as part of Europe 2 speeds, is fed by the fact that in Germany it is not allowed to use.

        Enchanting nonsense. Have you ever been to the Czech Republic?
        1. 0
          24 May 2020 17: 33
          I have been. Grub there is worse than in Germany and Austria and on the same level as Hungary. I do not mean a fried piece of meat, but what is sold in supermarkets.
          1. -2
            24 May 2020 21: 40
            Strange, and the average life expectancy in the Czech Republic is much higher than in Russia. What then is eaten in Russia then? belay
            1. +1
              25 May 2020 05: 21
              "average duration" - so the climate is better ...
    9. +18
      24 May 2020 10: 35
      Well, what to expect from the former fascist, and now sub-mattress puppet?
    10. +7
      24 May 2020 10: 38
      Infovoy against Russia continues. And when under any sauce they begin to revise the results of the Great Patriotic War, one must always remember that there are those who want the death of Russia.
      1. +6
        24 May 2020 11: 05
        Quote: aszzz888
        Infovoy against Russia continues. And when under any sauce they begin to revise the results of the Great Patriotic War, one must always remember that there are those who want the death of Russia.

        It continues in a more cunning form .. By a drop of poison every day they drip into our souls and teach us to do this ..
        I read just recently an interview with a veteran (93 years old) of such a combat grandfather .. So, to the journalist’s question:
        You’re such a generation, you won such a steel war and you’ve built the country into the forefront ..
        And will today's youth be able to defend themselves and attack later, just like you?
        Confident veteran: It can, it's Russia !!! hi
    11. +10
      24 May 2020 10: 46
      Something on the Nazi bed burns out ... As the Wehrmacht’s weapon to provide for the whole war, everything was fine ... Something too kind was Joseph Stalin. They did not carry out total denazification ... So they got it.
      1. +6
        24 May 2020 11: 08
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Something too kind was Joseph Stalin. They did not carry out total denazification ... So they got it.

        I also come to this idea more and more .. I. Stalin did not modify it, it was too soft hi
        1. +3
          24 May 2020 11: 13
          So I think so, and this is not one puncture, especially remembering Bandera to Bandera
    12. +14
      24 May 2020 10: 49
      We do not need gratitude. Monuments are not set for this. We need a new war. So that the West will never again dare to go to war with us. And the demolition of the monuments is nothing but the preparation for a new war of the West against us. For every new war begins with the oblivion of the old.
      1. +7
        24 May 2020 13: 14
        Quote: Pavel73
        We do not need gratitude. Monuments are not set for this. We need a new war. So that the West will never again dare to go to war with us. And the demolition of the monuments is nothing but the preparation for a new war of the West against us. For every new war begins with the oblivion of the old.


        It doesn’t reach them, then their descendants climb the same rake again ...
    13. +8
      24 May 2020 10: 50
      Yes, we do not wait for gratitude ... we do it simply because our soul is such .... help and not demand gratitude ....
      I would like to just remember ...
      Well, something like this .... and time shows that the good is quickly forgotten ....
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 11: 08
        our soul is so ....

        Wow .... sleeping like that with the queen, and saving the whole world at once! love
        1. +1
          24 May 2020 11: 20
          Quote: Mouse
          our soul is so ....

          Wow .... sleeping like that with the queen, and saving the whole world at once! love

          Walk, walk so, shoot so shoot .. hi
    14. +10
      24 May 2020 10: 52
      In Prague there was a jubilee gathering of NATO, last year it seemed. The whole city was in NATO flags, in the subway, every 10 minutes in a relatively clear Russian ear, Slavic language, speakerphone was read through the speakerphone, as NATO saved the Czechs from the eastern aggressive despot. When they wash you like this for years, why should they be friends with us or take care of our monuments. When the conquered natives were grateful to anyone in anything. If the Serbian people were like all these Slavic colonies of the West, would their elite play friendship? Look at Montenegro. There soon they will be in a concentration camp for religion and the right to be called a Serb, and the Russians for each iron are described as a hostile country and ethnic group. Like Croatia with ustashas. What is the difference between democracy or Nazism dominated by the West in a particular period of time. The idea of ​​moving east, to the Ural Mountains, along the former Russian territories, was there and will be the idea of ​​a fix.
      1. +6
        24 May 2020 13: 11
        Quote: Angrybeard
        The idea of ​​moving east, to the Ural Mountains, along the former Russian territories, was there and will be the idea of ​​a fix.


        Yes, this happens regularly, apparently another round is coming ...
        1. +8
          24 May 2020 14: 11
          Yes. The West is a mad dog (c) Slobodan Milosevic. And the saddest thing is that this is not about Western people taken separately. Individually, they are all quite normal people. The trouble is that the West as a whole is a civilization hostile to Russia, programmed for ever more aggressive campaigns to the east.
          1. +4
            24 May 2020 17: 42
            Quote: Pavel73
            The trouble is that the West as a whole is a civilization hostile to Russia, programmed for ever more aggressive campaigns to the east.


            This is not civilization, it is a hostile military-political organization that believes that only they can determine who and how to live.
      2. 0
        24 May 2020 20: 36
        hmmm .... you explain to me stupid -10 years passed after the war and the spring of Prague began Czechoslovakia Hungary Poland 50-60s .... they didn’t realize their happiness there or we drove out a few tanks out there ???
        1. 0
          24 May 2020 21: 22
          Yes, they didn’t. And now they are not aware. There were few wars in the 20th century, they want a new one.
      3. 0
        24 May 2020 21: 32
        NATO is the Fourth Reich.
    15. GMM
      +3
      24 May 2020 10: 53
      Dear ladies and gentlemen, let's try to look at this issue in a slightly different way.
      England and France require some kind of special relationship, for example from the Albanians, for the liberation of those in the First World War?
      Another question is how much time has passed since the end of the war, when the last veteran received fully deserved and appropriate benefits from the state ???
      Our state itself is disrespectful to the results of that war, but something requires from other countries, as an example, the same monuments. I can’t say for other places, but here they are forgotten for a year and only in May they are whitened by volunteers ...
      And in our domestic cinema, recently the image of the war-liberator and the very idea of ​​war with world evil have been so humiliated, and you want a correct understanding of the course of WWII from other countries after all this?
      So you need to start with yourself, and then blame others!
      1. +8
        24 May 2020 13: 09
        Quote: mmg

        So you need to start with yourself, and then blame others!


        This is so, but this does not mean that we must silently observe how our monuments collapse on their territory.
      2. +1
        24 May 2020 21: 30
        You do not understand the difference between forgotten monuments and destroyed monuments?
    16. +7
      24 May 2020 10: 54
      Europe has its RIGHT to forget, but Russia also has the PRAO not to forget. Pan Romantsov wanted to measure his rights? Well, let's start. You write that the USSR planted puppet REGIMES in Europe, but what about the fact that the USSR supplied Poland with grain in a lean 1946, how about the fact that according to the CMEA they bought "Ikarus" and "Tatra", I am already silent about the "Slavic meal" and stuffed cabbage, which provided their enterprises with a huge sales market. ... I'm not even talking about the Palace of Culture and Science in Warsaw, this is just like a razor to the throat. This, of course, deeply offended the peoples of these countries and they changed some puppet REGIMES to others similar. Then you write that the USSR traded before the war with Germany. This is true. But, firstly, Germany at that time also supplied a lot of things to the USSR, including, be surprised, warships. Before the war, my father received them at German shipyards. Let's go further. The Czech Republic supplied the fascists with military equipment until the very end of the war. And America supplied the USSR with Landlease. So there were, as it were, two oppositely directed "Landleese". Consequently, I also have the RIGHT to say that the American Landlease turned out to be more lhandleysist. The Czech Republic, it turns out, lost: even with their supplies, they could not help the Nazis.
      1. +4
        24 May 2020 11: 21
        You write that the USSR planted puppet MODES in Europe


        The USA imposed puppet regimes in Europe IF USE ROMANTSOV TERMINOLOGY. And by the way, the occupation regime, unlike us, the United States has preserved to this day ...
        1. +3
          24 May 2020 13: 06
          Not just a regimen, they also milk them and take advantage of them ...
      2. 0
        24 May 2020 20: 54
        Only the Czechs delivered and repaired the Germans for a bowl of soup, and we paid the United States gold for Landlise ... Whoever war, and who mother is dear .. The USA still hopes that if the trouble starts in Europe, it will sit behind a puddle ..
      3. IC
        0
        26 May 2020 03: 45
        And the inhabitants of these countries compare their post-war life with the countries who received help according to the Marshall plan. Czechs with Austria.
    17. +2
      24 May 2020 10: 58
      without material and technical assistance from the Allies, victory, Romantsov claims, could have come much later or not at all. 

      What to take from them .. the poor ... There is no memory, education is so-so, and even a syndrome of servicing, eternal servicing of a strong master.
      1. +4
        24 May 2020 13: 05
        We pity them every time, and then they shit ...
    18. +1
      24 May 2020 11: 04
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Look how they started talking! Slave essence will always manifest

      Do not confuse slaves and servants. A slave can fight, and a servant only giggles
    19. +2
      24 May 2020 11: 26
      Do not do good, and there will be no harm to you.
      1. +5
        24 May 2020 13: 03
        Quote: 7,62x54
        Do not do good, and there will be no harm to you.


        We always come across this.
      2. +1
        24 May 2020 17: 12
        Most likely like this: "Do good and throw it into the water", i.e. do not expect someone to say then thank you for that.
    20. +2
      24 May 2020 11: 27
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Yes, I saw this friendship!

      Get out of here, scum ...
    21. +1
      24 May 2020 11: 33
      He also recalled that all countries from where the Red Army expelled the Nazis, with the exception of Austria and the Danish island of Bornholm, after the war became puppets of the USSR.
      Norway is already -3 ...
    22. +2
      24 May 2020 11: 33
      In the situation for Russia, as the successor and successor to the Victory, it is very difficult to remain within the bounds of decency.
      And do not go to more non-diplomatic attacks and methods of communication.
      However, the situation is quite deadlocked.

      If communists were not in power in the USSR in 45, then Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, and the rest of the Nazi participants and sponsors, who would reach our hands, would be considered Nazi accomplices and would be subjected to the corresponding impact - from the death penalty of active participants, ideologists, accomplices, collaborators, to many years of imprisonment in camps on the territory of the USSR, with the restoration of all that is destroyed. And the most valuable property of these countries would simply be dismantled and taken to the Union.
      These countries would turn into a miserable semblance of states, without their policies, without their government for many years. At best, they would be engaged in agriculture and livestock.
      And they would be under the external control of the Military Administration of the Soviet Union.
      Where would they be given plans for the production of potatoes and the level of milk yield.

      All those who are trying to "bark" today should be pointed out for this.
      That's why they should thank us.

      But Comrade Stalin showed political foresight and criminal leniency.
      To hope for the "gratitude" of those who licked their boots to the Germans is the height of naivety.
      1. +1
        24 May 2020 12: 17
        Not softness, but pragmatism.
    23. +6
      24 May 2020 11: 38
      just don’t have to arrange a tantrum about this. all Czech actions are predictable, as it should be. maybe someone believes in sparking the friendship of the Czechs with the Russians? thanks for driving the Germans away? By no means, Germany gave thousands of Czechs stable work, self-propelled guns, armored personnel carriers, automobiles, etc. were produced. this was only later in the distant victorious May of 45, when it became clear to everyone that Germany had come to an end, here the Czechs rebelled amicably, and began to slowly pinch the Wehrmacht, but on the German civilian population, they came off completely. the more significantly different from the Slovaks, who, although they fought against us, they had the courage to raise their insurrection all the same in the 44th year. but what Hitler himself said about the Czechs, who undoubtedly knew them better .......... All Czechs are born nationalists, they subordinate everything to their interests. There is no need to harbor illusions - the lower they bow, the more dangerous they are ... Czechs are the most dangerous of all Slavs, because they are the most hardworking. They have discipline, there is order, they have more Mongoloid than Slavic. They know how to hide their intentions, showing a certain loyalty ... I do not feel contempt for them, but fate has appointed us to be enemies. An alien racial element stuck into our nation, someone must leave, either they, or we ... The Habsburgs were also burnt on this. They believed that they would be able to solve the problem in a good way [1244] .......... someone may not agree, but the Czech mentality is disclosed correctly. all the same, Hitler was not a fool. and now we will be reminded of everything / and 1968, they will remember something else there, Comrade STALIN, as 68 had foreseen, and even earlier in the newspaper, it’s true, he answered the Fulton speech, there it is just about the countries of eastern Europe .. ......... The Germans invaded the USSR through Finland, Poland, Romania, Hungary. The Germans could invade through these countries because then in these countries there were governments hostile to the Soviet Union. As a result of the German invasion, the Soviet Union irretrievably lost about seven million people in the battles with the Germans, and also thanks to the German occupation and the theft of Soviet people into German hard labor. In other words, the Soviet Union lost several times more people than England and the United States of America combined. It is possible that in some places these colossal victims of the Soviet people, who ensured the liberation of Europe from the Hitlerite yoke, are inclined to oblivion. But the Soviet Union cannot forget about them. The question is, what could be surprising in the fact that the Soviet Union, wanting to protect itself for the future, is trying to ensure that there are governments in these countries that are loyal to the Soviet Union? .... everything is extremely clear and precise. The USSR had the full, historical and moral right to send troops into the CSSR, if only for the reason that our victims were not in vain, and 1941 did not happen again.
      1. -1
        24 May 2020 20: 54
        I agree with the beginning of your statement, but then you convince yourself that we had the right to crush them with tanks at 68m. why not call it black and white occupation for influence in Eastern Europe — does this ear hurt you? the same with the Baltic states - the threat from the Baltic Sea - they lifted in an ultimatum at 39m in 24 hours. The same thing with the Finnish war - the border is close to Leningrad - they swept aside .... all this should be ennobled into beautiful expressions ???
        1. 0
          25 May 2020 08: 14
          can be called occupation, as you like. by the way, this word, in 11 dictionaries, is interpreted differently, but the essence is the same .. The USSR did not have much influence in Europe when it was eastern or western, but historical memory shows that world wars come from there. there was Napoleon, there was also the Crimean war of 1853-1856, although it would be more correct to call the war of Europe, against Russia, then the 1st World War, and then the 2nd and they were all painful, both for R.I. and for the USSR. we didn’t call anyone to ourselves; we ourselves came. well, and Comrade STALIN, if you remove the diplomatic husk, he said directly so that they wouldn’t go anymore, we would be there, and hostilities would begin there, in Europe, whether you want it or not. so that we won’t talk about poor Czechs, by the way, they went too far with tanks, one landing and a couple of motorized rifle dealerships would have driven the Czechs where they got out of. About the Baltic states, tell me before the WWII, did anyone in the world know such countries, how is estonia, latvia? Well, about Lithuania, you can still argue that it was a state, it was part of Poland, in general, one misunderstanding. but after it they appeared, and called these formations limitrophs. and general elections there were not held in 1918, and German troops stood there, like that. and in the civil war, the Estonians, together with Judenich and the Finns, went to St. Petersburg, though without success, but they went, it was the case. during the entire pre-war period, the Baltic Limitrophs made intrigues, invited Varangians, and talked with the Finns about closing the Gulf of Finland, well, just like now. so the threat was on their part .... but Comrade STALIN was in power, not the current pygmies, for whom the security of the state, came first. so that, I call a spade a spade.
      2. IC
        0
        26 May 2020 03: 48
        So much for the result of 1968.
    24. +1
      24 May 2020 11: 43
      And where do these Romantsov come from, who love to make porridge from everything.
      1. +3
        24 May 2020 13: 00
        Quote: Yuri Siritsky
        And where do these Romantsov come from, who love to make porridge from everything.


        Most likely a custom article, but for him apparently the money does not smell ...
    25. +5
      24 May 2020 11: 47
      But the Czech Republic does not have the right to demand that Russia forget who provided Hitler with weapons from 1939 to April 1945.
      1. +4
        24 May 2020 12: 59
        That we were silent about this, if they did not begin to destroy the monuments.
    26. avg
      +4
      24 May 2020 11: 50
      Because of people like you, no one in the civilized world wants to deal with the Russian world!

      Hey Zulfiya, open your face. Tell us about yourself, see what civilized you will be. Or are you here like that, go bastard and bold only with monuments?
      1. +1
        24 May 2020 12: 58
        No need to splurge on the offended, let history be taught better in books.
    27. +2
      24 May 2020 11: 55
      Who and when turned to them for gratitude? They are politely asked not to harm or mock the memory of the fallen.
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 12: 57
        Quote: Strashila
        Who and when turned to them for gratitude? They are politely asked not to harm or mock the memory of the fallen.


        Absolutely, we do not need their gratitude, let not touch our memory, far from all the wounds have healed.
    28. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 07
      I don’t understand why so much noise around the German-American litter is to burn out, glaze and close the question.
    29. +1
      24 May 2020 12: 15
      Chekhov in the ass! These ghouls do not understand the difference between respect and gratitude. Let them shove their love and gratitude into one place !!
    30. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 16
      Quote: AlexFly
      I ask for clarification, dear! Give some examples, please!

      How did the Czechs cut the Germans? Or the Poles? this is a well-known fact, just search the internet. I noticed, the less some people fought, the more formidable and powerful they became, to the defeated enemy, after defeating him, defeated by others. Czechs, Poles, French, who else, I don’t remember everyone?
    31. -1
      24 May 2020 12: 22
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Yes, I saw this friendship!

      and where could you see this friendship, flawed? you fell under the union, as before under the Germans, and only legs spread apart. you are accomplices of the fascists, it’s not appropriate to be friends with us. and your girls, yes, before sex, they were eager to see, apparently, you already didn’t. I had a Soviet soldier to support your gene pool. ask your grandmother, from whom she gave birth to your mother, maybe you'll learn a lot
      1. +3
        24 May 2020 12: 54
        Well, it’s rude to you, everything was there by agreement ...
    32. +1
      24 May 2020 12: 26
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Now, if you liberated Europe and left then you would be grateful!

      if we had gone, six months later a new hitler would have formed, or slurry. The Soviet people, having lost millions of their citizens, could not allow this. your grandfather would again start riveting tanks for the Wehrmacht. it was easier and cheaper to keep you
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 12: 53
        Yes, we needed a buffer and time to recover, sooner or later, but we would have left, just not as Gorbachev did ...
    33. wow
      0
      24 May 2020 12: 30
      No not like this ! In the next (future) war, and it is inevitable, unfortunately, there will be no prisoners or wounded "on the other side", who are, like, without weapons. There should only be killed and not otherwise. "... I don't need him here as a prisoner, he is just a dead needy here ...". K. Simonov - "They Fought for the Motherland."
    34. -2
      24 May 2020 12: 31
      Quote: Tatiana
      I would refuse to do business with such "friends".
      Nafig normal people need such "friends" - businessmen who are with a stone in their bosom!

      unfortunately, in the sun, all partners are like that. it is to us, it is insulting, and to him equally
    35. +1
      24 May 2020 12: 33
      Do not feed the troll! No.
    36. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 34
      Quote: barium
      you, former friends of the fascists

      The question is, why the former? the attitude to the monuments speaks of a completely different
    37. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 42
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      I am writing about Europe to you! read carefully

      Europe is now such a trifle that you are not interested in Amer. they occupied you in 1945, clinging to our victory, and still hold you (I wanted to say, for Faberge, so you don’t have them, for your stomach they’re holding you). do you like it. you even started yapping at us, do you think the Americans will intercede for you? Yes, never, we just don’t need you now, live as you live, and get into bed, dreaming that we will conquer you. although, if cho, Private Raynan will save you, with delirium pet together
    38. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 43
      It is foolish to wait for gratitude from the losing side.
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 12: 49
        Quote: shubin
        It is foolish to wait for gratitude from the losing side.


        So we do not wait, we know something. that almost all of Europe fought on the side of the Nazis and we were silent about it ... let the monuments not touch and we will not remind ...
    39. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 44
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      I am writing about Europe to you! read carefully

      and whose bases throughout Europe?
    40. +2
      24 May 2020 12: 47
      Czech Press: Russia does not have the right to demand eternal gratitude from us for release


      And no one demands, you don’t touch the monuments and that’s it.
    41. +1
      24 May 2020 12: 47
      Yes, not liberation, but in fact there was a victory over the Czech Republic, they served Hitler and were glad.
    42. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 47
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      if they force planted like the USSR, then we would be against

      and in protest would go in black pants, as always. who held you by force? you were cleaned on the way to Berlin, and then you yourself clung to us, yours the leaders decided this, those who fought with the Nazis, and not riveted tanks to them
    43. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 51
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      So they showed their Nazi insides! Thanks you

      what, we have to say a big thank you for everything that you have done to us, since 1918? and do "ku"?
    44. -7
      24 May 2020 12: 51
      Three generations of people have already changed in the Czech Republic - who did not see that war. But many of them still remember the "Prague Spring" - by the way, it was a pure intrusion. To someone else's territory, with their own charter, as they say. Yes, this cannot be compared with the tyranny of the Nazis, but put yourself in the shoes of an ordinary Czech - how will he look at those events?
      Not only did they "put" some Czech communists (whom no one knew) to power, but they also beat them on the hands, every time they began to act taking into account local specifics, and not like in the USSR. We are remembered accordingly, because in the Czech Republic, "Channel One" and "Russia1" cannot be turned on at full capacity to pump the blizzard over the heads of the population.
      It is necessary to calm down on this subject - this is their country, their will is to demolish some monuments, rename the streets and write their story as they see it. After all, we are doing exactly the same thing - how many memorial plaques were removed, the cities were renamed, how many of our figures and periods of history were craped upside down.
      But at the same time, the Czechs are bad! What cynicism ..
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 13: 46
        Suppression of the counter-revolutionary rebellion or of an elementary coup d'état inspired by the CIA and MI6 was dealt with by all the ATS countries. Especially the GDR showed zeal. Because at the end of the war, the Czechs slaughtered many unarmed civilians.
        1. -2
          24 May 2020 14: 55
          In hindsight, the CIA and MI6 and the hell could be blamed for this - what you believe more, for years, an epic conspiracy has been ripening on the border with the West with agents of influence penetrating the government and various secret operations - and then all this is it so calmly merged, or that local, very remote from the USSR authorities acted on the basis of the needs of people and the economy, and not according to the precepts of Ilyich? And they were punished for it, because it is worthless to be smarter than the master. Along the way, we nagged the Czechs, but who in our country at least once bothered (bothers) on the topic of noschormivaniya population? To shoot, imprison, criminal, administrative, etc. is our everything.
          We ourselves do not love for this - and our power, which trumps all this - so why should the Czechs like us choose good and lamp peas from G? Their country was finally left alone — they are in the Eurozone, they are eating sausages and drinking beer, it’s TO_AS_ONI_ ALWAYS_WANTED_LIVE. Moreover, this is how our own citizens traveling to the Czech Republic want to live in the vast majority.
          Of course, they will look at the whole past without proper piety - because what they have today is very remotely connected with everything that was in their country after 1945. Yes, we released them, we are smart, etc. But forcing people to live and build for years as they DON'T WANT - this has somewhat spoiled our image! What can we do about it? Only conclusions. How to do it is impossible.
          1. -1
            24 May 2020 15: 30
            In reality, there was a massacre of communists from which troops were brought in. Tubus has it in the video.
    45. -1
      24 May 2020 12: 51
      Nothing is eternal. But, then there should be no eternal enmity for the "Prague Spring"
    46. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 53
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      You can immediately see the Russian fascist! It's good that we are not partners with you

      dreamed, our partner is our prezik, but we don’t need you and us
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    47. +3
      24 May 2020 12: 57
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      The Wehrmacht included, among many, both Czechs and Slovaks.

      There were an order of magnitude more Russians in the Wehrmacht than Czechs and Slovaks combined.

      The ancient Roman senator Cato Sr. made history by saying that any public speech on any topic necessarily ended with the words: “Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam”, which literally means: “For the rest, I believe that Carthage should be destroyed.” (Carthage is a city-state hostile to Rome.) I’m not ready to be completely like Senator Cato, but I’ll use any reason to mention once again: in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, the USSR, with an initial strength of 190 million people, didn’t fight with 80 million then Germans. The Soviet Union fought practically with the whole of Europe, the number of which (with the exception of England allied to us and partisan Serbia that did not surrender to the Germans) was about 400 million people. laughing Very interesting data is obtained. And for Ukrainians as well. Almost ahead of the rest. And far ahead of the Russians in the number of traitors were far away. 3 times ahead. During the Great Patriotic War, overcoats in the USSR were put on by 34 thousand people, i.e. 476,7% of the population. And Germany mobilized as much as 17,8% of the population into its armed forces. The Chechs, in which only one Skoda company produced more weapons than the entire pre-war Great Britain, laughing In order to assess the ethnic composition of the whole European bastard, who, hoping for easy prey, climbed to kill us Soviet and Russian people, I will give a table of that part of the foreign volunteers who guessed to surrender to us in time:

      Germans - 2 389 560, Hungarians - 513 767, Romanians - 187 370, Austrians - 156 682, Czechs and Slovaks - 69 977, Poles - 60 280, Italians - 48 957, French - 23 136, Croats - 21 822, Moldovans - 14 129, Jews - 10 173, Dutch - 4 729, Finns - 2 377, Belgians - 2 010, Luxembourgers - 1652, Danes - 457, Spaniards - 452, Gypsies - 383, Norwegians - 101, Swedes - 72. Army ROA - probably consider 700 thousand emigrants. With all that, among them, far from all were ethnic Russians. Russian, by the way, was 0,3% cooperating with the Germans. Sadly descendants of Bandera and Shukhevych.
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    48. 0
      24 May 2020 12: 58
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Yes yes please remind! And then you have a plane shot down by the Turks, and you lost it so much and forgot!

      Well, where is this Turkey now? looks attentively at the anus of the sun
    49. +2
      24 May 2020 13: 00
      After all, he very actively supplied Germany before it attacked the USSR with oil, food, metal, and valuable raw materials.
      ------------------------------
      USA supplied equipment, Great Britain with money. Well? Has someone canceled international trade? Or was fascism condemned by the League of Nations, followed by a tribunal? Very strange juggling in logic and, above all, legal. The USSR traded with Germany and received from her cars and components that were very necessary for him at that time. The USSR of the 1930s was a backward country and was not at all what it was in the 1970s. As for the raw materials, the USSR sent it to Germany in a very careless form, poorly refined and not enriched as it is now. Today they require iron ore pellets instead of ore, for example. Coal not anyhow, but anthracite. Etc. And then everything is simple - "and tops and roots" in one car.
    50. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 01
      Quote: Simon Schempp
      There were an order of magnitude more Russians in the Wehrmacht than Czechs and Slovaks combined

      and this is our business. already dealt with them
    51. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 02
      Quote: akarfoxhound
      Have your own business with each other - as much as you like!!!

      and as far as it will fit
    52. +3
      24 May 2020 13: 04
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      After 68, Russia has no rights at all!

      Russia always has the right. and when you bucked up in 1968 and wanted to lie down under the amers, that’s what you got
    53. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 07
      Quote: Olgovich
      And they were forgiven ... But it was impossible to forgive!

      The Reichstag was defended by the French until the very end. and they were forgiven
    54. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 08
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      It is still much easier to change a political system than to revive a national state

      so they change it without stopping
    55. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 10
      Quote: Thrifty
      Conclusions for the future need to be drawn that in any war Russia must liberate only ITS territory from the occupiers, and let the rest solve problems themselves as they want and as best they can

      you’re wrong, brother. Liberate your territory, clear the rest
    56. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 12
      The Czechs (Czech legionnaires) stole the gold of the Russian Empire and then used this money to prosper until WW2, and then served the fascists... let them consider it a good thing, they were not classified as accomplices because they did not resist the Germans, even like Poland. But when the Germans disarmed and rushed to surrender to the allies, the Czechs became very warlike, killing Germans left and right. Very heroic people.
    57. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 12
      Quote: yo-mine
      No not like this ! In the next (future) war, and it is inevitable, unfortunately, there will be no prisoners or wounded "on the other side", who are, like, without weapons. There should only be killed and not otherwise. "... I don't need him here as a prisoner, he is just a dead needy here ...". K. Simonov - "They Fought for the Motherland."

      laughing One wise man said: Europe will be destroyed, and a new world will be built on its ruins and at the expense of it. laughing
    58. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 13
      Quote: Eragon
      There was a dung heap of Europe, but there is none.

      no, it remains the same, only it has been greatly diluted with foreigners
    59. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 14
      Quote: Eragon
      Hello UK

      and from India too
    60. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 16
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Well, other peoples also lived in Nazi Germany, so what? Stalin systematically destroyed them!

      them, who are they, facts?
    61. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 19
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      But they were shot and exiled to Siberia! Entire nations were overpowered by force

      What peoples from Western Europe were forcibly resettled in Siberia and shot? we dealt with our traitors ourselves
    62. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 21
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      And with whom did the USSR sign a non-aggression pact and help with raw materials?

      and with whom did the whole of Europe sign the same pacts and trade relations much earlier than the Soviet Union?
    63. +2
      24 May 2020 13: 26
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Well then, just shut up and shut up! Since everyone cooperated

      So shut up, you flawed one. the Soviet Union did not sign anything in 1938, on the contrary, it offered to protect the Czech Republic, as I see now, it was completely in vain, under Hitler it was much sweeter for you
      1. +1
        25 May 2020 11: 51
        The damaged campaign does not know how Poland happily shared Czechoslovakia with Hitler
    64. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 27
      We don't ask for gratitude!
      , we just want people to remember at least their undistorted history
    65. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 27
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Uncle they told you what 38 and 39 are, go to school and get a math textbook for 1st grade

      not an uncle, but a boy. doesn’t look like an uncle, from the word - finally
    66. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 28
      Quote: Miron
      The Unified State Exam does not teach cause-and-effect chains.
      These are complicated things. Not for schoolchildren.

      and not for Czechs and Slovaks
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 13: 36
        Don't compare Slovaks with Czechs. The Slovaks didn’t deserve this; they even had a partisan movement https://topwar.ru/73946-slovaki-protiv-fashizma-nacionalnoe-vosstanie-i-boevye-deystviya-na-storone-rkka.html
        Even the Poles had it, but these (Czechs) quietly waited for the whole banquet to end.
    67. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 32
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Just take all the monuments from Europe and put them on Red Square! What is the problem

      the problem is that we have so many monuments all over your fucking Europe that they won’t fit on Red Square
    68. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 35
      Unfortunately, at any time and in any nation there are rotten, vile and filthy people for whom nothing is sacred. Well, these are the Romance ones...
    69. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 38
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      And with whose support do the Russian marches take place?

      and even if there is a Russian march? What does the Czechs have to do with it? Did you suffer greatly from them?
    70. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 40
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      First, remember how Stalin sent his population to concentration camps

      remember how Roosevelt sent his citizens to concentration camps, maybe you’ll feel better
    71. -1
      24 May 2020 13: 43
      So they are right...
    72. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 43
      Quote: Sayan
      Get out of here, pan-headed, anal bastard jumping up

      Besides emotions, what can you say?
    73. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 47
      Quote: Instruktor
      Confident veteran: It can, it's Russia !!!

      what a naive old man. are you going to fight for the extra 10 meters of Abramovich’s yacht? and I won't go
    74. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 57
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      And you! Stop interfering in the affairs of other nations! Put yourself in order, raise the standard of living of your citizens, culture and science, learn to respect others and then other nations will reach out to you!

      We somehow don’t care who will reach out to us. that's enough, you've already reached out. and what we have now is our business, we will decide for ourselves, and you don’t interfere in our affairs, it’s not your rank. Keep your advice to yourself. It’s a little thing that you can give us advice, especially about culture and science, how to wave and suck, you can still teach us, but we don’t need it
    75. AML
      0
      24 May 2020 13: 57
      Quote: aglet
      Czech talking about slaves? and who have you been for the last 200 years? and who handed over Jan Zizka to the Germans?

      The slave dreams not of freedom, but of his own slaves. Everything is classic.
    76. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 00
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      Typical case

      The photojournalists chose the wrong pose. after all, they were on their knees and doggy style, apparently the light was bad
    77. +1
      24 May 2020 14: 01
      Ignore the Czech light and dark ones too!
      Trailers and everything else.
      That would be a decent answer.
      1. +3
        24 May 2020 17: 55
        Or maybe it will work... hi
        1. +1
          24 May 2020 18: 03
          Welcome soldier
          Don't know. We don’t have real unity....or rather, we wake up sometimes, on May 9, for example, for some other emergency, and so on all the time, ALWAYS! Not visible, not heard.
          And it should be!!! The people are united, with a common will on fundamental issues, respect, fear, EVERYONE WILL BE!
          1. +3
            24 May 2020 18: 05
            And here other structures and levers should work, for example, a sanitary doctor...
            1. +1
              24 May 2020 18: 22
              It will be... as always, to no avail.
              Everyone will yap on the authorities, ours. And from there and here! And no one will risk yapping to the united will of the people, otherwise they will respond with multiple responses.
              Until we all stand up to defend our memory, there will be plenty of our heroes willing to kick! When they see the answer of the whole society, everyone will shut up, except for the completely frostbitten ones, who are not very liked there either!
              1. +3
                24 May 2020 18: 32
                Quote: rocket757

                Until we all stand up to defend our memory, there will be plenty of our heroes willing to kick! When they see the answer of the whole society, everyone will shut up, except for the completely frostbitten ones, who are not very liked there either!


                I agree, but it will be difficult to do...
                1. +1
                  24 May 2020 19: 01
                  Obvious and almost incredible.
                  Sometimes you want to dream, although age is already... not lyrical, let's say.
                  1. +3
                    24 May 2020 19: 25
                    I myself am in the same category, but life goes on...
                    1. +1
                      24 May 2020 19: 38
                      Yes, life goes on, so be it.
    78. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 03
      Quote: mmg
      So you need to start with yourself, and then blame others!

      We don’t equate ourselves with the fascists; on the contrary, it is the liberated peoples who equate us with the Germans
    79. +1
      24 May 2020 14: 05
      Quote: Jan Zizka
      Monsieur knows a lot about perversions!

      Well, I learned it from you, or rather, from your girls, 1978-1983. no matter what the girls were
    80. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 07
      Quote: mmg
      England and France require some kind of special relationship, for example from the Albanians, for the liberation of those in the First World War?

      What, did Germany have an Ost plan regarding the Albanians?
    81. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 08
      Quote: Fitter65
      Norway is already -3

      no, this is private rynan
    82. AML
      +1
      24 May 2020 14: 12
      Has East Germany already caught up with Western Germany in terms of level? 30 years have already passed since the unification. Or is the USSR also to blame?
    83. +1
      24 May 2020 14: 17
      Alas, in the Czech Republic, hatred of Russia is already a fashionable trend, and historical events and phenomena are just a background and a reason. By and large, the Czech anti-Russian public no longer cares who liberated Prague in 1945 or even what happened in 1968. Nobody pays attention to the fact that the USSR has been in existence for almost 30 years, and Russia is not imposing any communism on anyone and is not planning to. Russia is always to blame for everything and everywhere, this is an axiom in modern not only the Czech Republic, but also Eastern Europe. Well, historical facts (more precisely, historical fakes) are simply adjusted to this axiom. So vandalism towards the Konev monument is not the stupidity of an individual deranged Czech district administrator, but a purposeful state policy.
    84. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 19
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      And by the way, the US, unlike us, has maintained the occupation regime to this day...

      that is, all of Europe is occupied by the Amers, but they don’t know it, and they puff out their cheeks, supposedly sovereign. or even more accurately, they don’t want to know, they consider themselves sovereign states
    85. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 42
      Quote: zombirusrev
      Don't compare Slovaks with Czechs. The Slovaks didn’t deserve this, they even had a partisan movement

      well, how many Slovaks fought against the Red Army?" Slovakia entered World War II on September 1, 1939, when Slovak troops, together with Hitler’s Wehrmacht, invaded Poland. And Slovakia declared war on the Soviet Union on the very first day of Germany’s attack on USSR - June 22, 1941"
      and why the hell were they partisan there?
    86. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 49
      But you are the same, don’t forget, even if we don’t remind you. You don’t just forget, you distort the very fact of our help, appointing us as invaders!!!
    87. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 54
      Quote: sagitch
      But you are the same, don’t forget, even if we don’t remind you

      Well, maybe facts, not emotions?
    88. 0
      24 May 2020 14: 55
      Quote: sagitch
      But you are the same, don’t forget, even if we don’t remind you

      damn, they don't remind us! son, pray that we you weren't reminded
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 17: 52
        Read his post to the end...
    89. +1
      24 May 2020 15: 04
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      One wise man said: Europe will be destroyed, and a new world will be built on its ruins and at the expense of it.

      He said this about Russia. and everything goes that way
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 17: 50
        If we allow...
    90. +1
      24 May 2020 15: 05
      Quote: cniza
      Well, it’s rude to you, everything was there by agreement ...

      I don’t argue, but there was no need to argue there
      1. +3
        24 May 2020 17: 49
        Then they just thanked and rejoiced...
    91. +1
      24 May 2020 15: 07
      Quote: boriz
      But the Czech Republic does not have the right to demand that Russia forget who provided Hitler with weapons from 1939 to April 1945.

      I made a little mistake, comrade, since 1938. and everything is correct
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 17: 49
        By the way, the Poles also have something to do with this...
    92. +1
      24 May 2020 15: 08
      Quote: cniza
      That we were silent about this, if they did not begin to destroy the monuments.

      that's why they started to destroy because they were silent
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 17: 48
        Apparently there was an agreement, and now we are free from our obligations.
    93. +2
      24 May 2020 15: 42
      The EU is still a puppet of Uncle Sam
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 17: 46
        E.S. is under US occupation...
    94. +1
      24 May 2020 16: 21
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      After all, we do exactly the same thing - how many memorial plaques have been removed, cities have been renamed, how many of our figures and periods of history have been crap from head to toe

      This is our story and we do what we want with it. and it’s not for the Czechs, there, or the Poles, to tell us what to do, which monuments to destroy and which ones to preserve
    95. 0
      24 May 2020 16: 45
      The Soviet Union also strengthened the power of Czechoslovakia after World War II. Now it is turning Russia's side. Apparently, it’s time to start correcting our mistakes and breaking off any ties with these jackals.
    96. +1
      24 May 2020 17: 21
      Throw out trade missions of such countries from Russia: 1. Poland .2. Bulgaria.3. Czech . business then laughing
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 17: 45
        Breaking is not building, you can find a lot of other ways to put them in place...
    97. +1
      24 May 2020 17: 36
      Break down all the monuments to the Czech legionnaires, which is right, dismantle them, put an urn and a beer stall in this place, and sell the granite to local authorities who want to auction or give crowns to the victims laughing
      1. +2
        24 May 2020 17: 44
        Why should we become like their barbarism, they stand with us, which means this is already our history, we just need to know it and understand how and why this monument appeared here...
    98. +2
      24 May 2020 17: 42
      Who is this expert???
      This is yet another proof that the USSR was at war with ALL of Europe. The fact that there are normal, adequate people in the Czech Republic, Poland, etc. is undeniable. But now they can only say that this or that is bad. But the Russian state, represented by its leaders, must find ways, which would be very painful and financially difficult, to say mean things about the fallen soldiers who gave them the opportunity to live in peace!!!
      By the way, with those bleating about this in Russia, do the same!!!!
    99. +2
      24 May 2020 18: 01
      Don’t be surprised at anything anymore, brothers Slavs! It will only get worse. I present to your attention a still from the Disney movie "Jojo Rabbit"!
      You were not mistaken, a nice guy with a mustache - Adik Hitler, the imaginary friend of a German boy who dreams of becoming a real Nazi! A friend in childhood pranks, Carlson's competitor from the rooftop. And it doesn’t matter that the boy falls in love with a Jewish girl and changes: the kind, cheerful and playful elf Schicklgruber will remain in the memory of those watching!
      Here it is, the notorious Overton window, from aversion to sympathy, from sympathy to commitment! Where is this world coming to......

      .
      1. +1
        25 May 2020 22: 26
        Everything is saturated with NLP, and many people consider this stupidity.
    100. +1
      24 May 2020 18: 15
      In my opinion, we pay too much attention to these former Hitler henchmen. There are more important topics.

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