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Marshal Haftar: We will fight against Turkish colonialism

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Marshal Haftar: We will fight against Turkish colonialism

The commander of the Libyan National Army, Khalifa Haftar, spoke out about the developing situation in Libya. According to Marshal Haftar, representatives of the so-called Government of National Accord, "which is pursuing a comprehensive disagreement in the country, are trying to bet on the Turkish occupation."


Haftar:

We will fight against Turkish colonialism. For our brave soldiers and officers, this is a holy war in which for all of us there is nothing but victory.

Meanwhile, reports are coming from Libya that PNS forces Fayez Saraj, with active support from militants deployed by Turkey from Idlib, have taken control of one of the key facilities south of Tripoli. This is the Al-Yarmouk military base, which was used by the LNA as the headquarters of the command to take the capital of the country.

Representatives of the PNS claim that Al-Yarmouk was allegedly controlled by "Russian mercenaries from PMC Wagner."

It became known about the telephone conversations of US President Donald trump with a Turkish colleague. Trump called on Erdogan to de-escalate the conflict as soon as possible. Recall that the United States is concerned about the possibility of a complete victory of the PNS in Libya due to the fact that then the Libyan fields can resume work and large-scale export of Libyan oil can open. For the time being, Haftar’s forces are holding back this opportunity for Saraj, but if LNA loses, Libyan oil will flood the world market and minimize all the agreements reached in the OPEC + format.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 24 May 2020 07: 35
    +7
    It is completely incomprehensible how the confrontation is going on there. what ... information is extremely limited and there is too much disinformation on both sides.
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 24 May 2020 08: 13
      -2
      Regarding oil. The article says that the US fears Libyan oil in the market. But after all, we should be afraid, then all the plans according to which the budget is laid down can be safely sent to a landfill.
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 24 May 2020 08: 29
        +1
        Quote: Deniska999
        You can safely send to the landfill.

        The Saudis already sent ... But ... they don’t have Urals oil .. which is first fuel, and secondly bitumen .. necessary for road construction .. Light oil is suitable for distillation into gasoline ... even the output of heavy fuels from it is not large . Conclusion .. not a competitor ..
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 24 May 2020 08: 30
        +1
        Representatives of the PNS claim that Al-Yarmouk was allegedly controlled by "Russian mercenaries from PMC Wagner."


        Quote: Colonel Cassad
        Libyan PNS published photos and videos of the body of an alleged PMC employee from Russia.
        Demonstrated Russian rubles and a backpack with the inscription "Hunguz"







        ..... However, the version is already walking that this is the body of a Ukrainian doctor who was abducted in Libya several months ago.
        The very participation of Russian PMCs in Libya is not a big secret and was even recognized by the Kremlin, with the amendment that they operate there independently.
        So it is impossible to exclude the fact that this is a real PMC.


        I did not consider it necessary to demonstrate a photo of the body of the deceased, for those interested in such things, video (18+): https://twitter.com/ahmed_hmodaa/status/1264040038318379008
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 24 May 2020 09: 54
          +2
          Demonstrated Russian rubles and a backpack with the inscription "Hunguz"

          belay Why does a PMC mercenary need Russian rubles in Libya ... a toilet or something to paste over?
          Very strange . what
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 24 May 2020 10: 04
            +7
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            Why does a PMC mercenary need Russian rubles in Libya ... a toilet or something to paste over?
            Very strange .

            You know recourse ...
            If you do not take into account the dubious bills, the other contents of the backpack of the deceased soldier - in my opinion, indicates that it looks like it was still a man "from ours", or very close in spirit to the Russian practical soldier mentality ...

            I don’t know how to explain this, but I feel, looking at a set of things and objects in a backpack ...
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 24 May 2020 10: 06
              0
              it seems that he was still a man "from ours", or very close in spirit to the Russian practical-soldier mentality ...

              I agree ... I watched every frame of the video in detail ... all details are met ... except for Soviet rubles ... what if I went to Libya I would have stocked up dollars but not rubles ... it doesn’t fit into the logic ... I think the Turkish proxies have worked ... the face of the mercenary is clearly visible ... who needs to recognize this person.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 24 May 2020 10: 16
                +7
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                it does not fit into the logic ...

                Yes, quit. There were rubles from the road, what to throw them away, or what? Would be useful upon return. I kept a couple of years of hryvnia, despite the fact that I was not going to Ukraine.
                1. Same lech
                  Same lech 24 May 2020 10: 23
                  0
                  There were rubles from the road, what to throw them away, or what?

                  Of course I would have thrown it ... I would have been captured by thugs with indirect evidence indicating belonging to the country ... they could cut off their heads right away without really understanding.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 24 May 2020 10: 31
                    +5
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    Of course I would have thrown it ... I would have been captured by thugs with indirect evidence indicating belonging to the country ... they could cut off their heads right away without really understanding.

                    So they will find out if you do not perfectly know a foreign language.
                    1. Same lech
                      Same lech 24 May 2020 10: 34
                      0
                      But you can live a couple of hours ... and then they will kill quickly and not slowly with pleasure.
                      1. Stirbjorn
                        Stirbjorn 24 May 2020 11: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: The same LYOKHA
                        But you can live a couple of hours ... and then they will kill quickly and not slowly with pleasure.

                        Mercenaries are not taken prisoner, and it was written on his face that he was not an Arab
                      2. Same lech
                        Same lech 24 May 2020 11: 12
                        +1
                        Sadness ... it’s better to fight on the couch ... at least the monitor does not wave a dagger.
                      3. Stirbjorn
                        Stirbjorn 24 May 2020 11: 20
                        +3
                        Quote: The same Lech
                        Sadness ... it’s better to fight on the couch ... at least the monitor does not wave a dagger.
                        You are too self-critical, although in general, tell the truth hi
              2. Nikanet
                Nikanet 24 May 2020 18: 20
                +3
                And why, without rubles, would you not know that a Russian is a man?
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 24 May 2020 13: 53
              +9
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              it does not fit into the logic ...

              Yes, quit. There were rubles from the road, what to throw them away, or what? Would be useful upon return. I kept a couple of years of hryvnia, despite the fact that I was not going to Ukraine.
              Here doubts arise in the sense that when the shovel was opened to the camera, these rubles lay on top like a walker, and the Libyan walker herself did not appear from the word at all. He did not pay in rubles, and there are no military trade stores there. Logically, if this money is not quoted in the host country, then their place would be in a separate compartment for the time being, so as not to interfere. And the striker's "body kits" are quite weak for a "chevekashnik", there is even no normal unloading. It looks like a statement that would accuse Russia of direct participation in the Libyan conflict, they say, not only Turks violate the UN ban.
              PS- while writing, the fighter has already been identified - this is a certain Alex Durich from Kosovo, when he fought in Yugoslavia. There is information on it on "Kassada". Here you can see -
              https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5891702.html
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 24 May 2020 13: 55
            +5
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            I watched in detail each frame of the video ... all the details are met ... except for Soviet rubles ...

            I purely mechanically missed, but now I saw ... Sorry,what are the Soviet rubles ?
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 24 May 2020 15: 41
              +3
              what are the Soviet rubles?

              Sorry ... old scoop hi blurted out also mechanically ... and did not check. what
        2. Altona
          Altona 24 May 2020 12: 28
          +3
          Quote: Insurgent
          I don’t know how to explain this, but I feel, looking at a set of things and objects in a backpack ...

          -----------------------
          Chinese multitool and tape measure, a coil of coarse threads, paracetamol tablets, a penny knife for a picnic. wink
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          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 25 May 2020 15: 08
            +1
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            And nonche, how?
            https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5891702.html


            Quote: Insurgent
            it looks like it was still a man "from ours",or very close in spirit to the Russian practical-soldier mentality ...


            I fought alongside the Serbs, and their mentality, way of thinking, "habits" are very close to our.
            As you can see, the "chuyka" did not let me down, although it is not even a "chuyka", but the simple knowledge of what may be in the backpack of our soldier (or close to him in mentality) ...
      3. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 24 May 2020 11: 08
        +2
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        belay Why would a PMC mercenary have Russian rubles in Libya ... a toilet or something to paste over?
        Very strange .

        What's so strange ?! He was not brought by teleport from home. When you go abroad, do you leave all rubles at home ?! He didn’t find bundles, but small bills ... damn it, get a taxi home, or have a snack at the airport transit.
      4. Altona
        Altona 24 May 2020 12: 30
        +5
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Why does a PMC mercenary need Russian rubles in Libya ... a toilet or something to paste over?
        Very strange .

        ----------------------------
        Rubles there by the way a bit, exactly on the Aeroexpress from Sheremetyevo. Rubles 400-500, no longer necessary, but also so as not to look for them upon arrival.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 24 May 2020 13: 32
          +3
          As for the money, most likely basic either in custody or on the account. There was a ruble trifle + pocket bucks, the video is clearly weaving, and in the photo another 20 = 120. It’s quite an ordinary stash, in case of anything (buy something or get there).

          as for the rest, so they already took the location where they lodged most likely. There they’ll also analyze profiles in Russian (so far it’s jackalous, but this video is the same).



      5. Stalllker
        Stalllker 24 May 2020 14: 49
        0
        Still, a bottle of vodka "Russian, vodka" or "Stolichnaya", for credibility laughing laughing laughing ... And so nonsense of course, stopudovy fake
      6. Victorio
        Victorio 24 May 2020 23: 07
        +1
        Quote: The same Lech
        Demonstrated Russian rubles and a backpack with the inscription "Hunguz"

        belay Why does a PMC mercenary need Russian rubles in Libya ... a toilet or something to paste over?
        Very strange . what

        ===
        stayed in your pocket / wallet / backpack. what's so surprising on arrival there he needed to throw out these banknotes?
    2. PalBor
      PalBor 24 May 2020 13: 05
      +2
      Identified, like, him already. Someone Alexa Durich from Kosovo. At first he fought in the territory of the former Yugoslavia, after which he was hired. But what PMCs worked in Libya, do not write. Who knows.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 24 May 2020 08: 28
    +1
    Maybe desa, but the new Osmania them. Erdogan does not seem to be there.
  • Instruktor
    Instruktor 24 May 2020 08: 43
    -2
    Quote: The same Lech
    It is completely incomprehensible how the confrontation is going on there. what ... information is extremely limited and there is too much disinformation on both sides.

    Yes, everything seems to be clear, Russia supports Haftar, while unofficially .. Here they are going to get it wet, it prevents them from robbing Libya there!
  • g1v2
    g1v2 24 May 2020 11: 08
    12
    Both groups included various detachments — tribal militias and jihadist detachments on both sides. Until the Turks fully intervened, Haftar won through greater centralization and unity of command, plus support from the UAE, Egypt, France, us, the Saudis and Israel. But after the Turks essentially placed the occupation corps there and transferred from Syria to 20 thousand controlled militants, everything changed. Now the Syrian militants are mainly fighting with the support of Turkish drones and aircraft. With a centralized army of experienced fighters with the support of the Turkish army, Haftaru is much more difficult to fight. Plus, while eager for Tripoli, I did not think about the front line. Right now, the Turks are hitting the flanks and Haftar has to roll back. However, all the sponsors have already strained and the emirates and the Egyptians are running around the market, buying equipment for Haftar - there is infa that a dozen and a half29 and su24 should fly through Egypt. Plus, the emirates want to buy mi24 and mi35. It seems that the Egyptians received the first sou 35, but this is not yet accurate. I hope we will sell a lot of things to the Haftar sponsors, and the Turks will get seriously stuck there.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 24 May 2020 17: 54
      0
      Quote: g1v2
      I hope we will sell a lot of things to the Haftar sponsors, and the Turks are seriously bogged down there.

      It is good to. wink
  • Altona
    Altona 24 May 2020 11: 40
    +3
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    information is extremely limited and there is too much disinformation on both sides.

    ----------------------
    Information in bulk, though if only critical to look at it. Ukrainian and not only Youtube channels have long been drowned in savoring events from Syria and Libya.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 24 May 2020 13: 32
    +7
    Franklin Roosevelt is credited with the phrase allegedly said by him in 1939: “Somosa, maybe a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch” ..
  • Siberian 66
    Siberian 66 24 May 2020 07: 37
    +4
    For the time being, Haftar’s forces are holding back this opportunity for Saraj, but if LNA loses, Libyan oil will flood the world market and minimize all the agreements reached in the OPEC + format.
    That's why both LNA and PNS are just pawns in a game of big uncles with big money and big plans. And the fact that people are dying there, in general, the uncles do not care much.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 24 May 2020 07: 55
      +3
      That's why both LNA and PNS are just pawns

      It would be nice to know the detailed alignment of the armed forces on both sides as of May 24, 2020.
      And how many mercenaries and from which countries are participating in the Libyan war ... their weapons who coordinate their activities ... a lot of questions. what
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 24 May 2020 08: 10
        -4
        Puzzled photo - the boy in the background in the uniform of an officer. Is this a joke or a call for a totalitarian confrontation?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 May 2020 08: 13
          +8
          This is Haftar's successor. He is not a marshal, but only a colonel.
          But to learn. fellow
          1. Grits
            Grits 24 May 2020 09: 33
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            This is Haftar's successor. He is not a marshal, but only a colonel.
            But to learn.

            If compatriots and fellow believers do not cut off their heads
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 24 May 2020 08: 34
        +3
        Well, that’s not even in intelligence.

        To vskidku:
        UAE - Shells, UAVs WingLong2, supplies of armored vehicles, armored personnel carriers (Jordanian by the way), financing, procurement of Sudanese fighters.
        Sudan - Sudanese fighters for the UAE. Instead of Yemen, money is now flying to Libya.
        Egypt - training of officers in the country's educational institutions, the supply of old but proven equipment from storage (guns, MLRS, T-55, various memory / KPVT, shells - the main supplier). Providing corridors and white hubs for deliveries to Libya (well, a chartered vessel will not go to Tobruk / Benghazi, but it’s easy to go to Egyptian Martukh or Alexandria). Small deliveries of new for Saudi and UAE Money - armored cars, Cornets, etc.
        Saudis - repurchase of weapons in the secondary, financing.
        Jordan - the supply of weapons as its own production (the same KADDB armored personnel carriers), as well as purchasing for itself in other countries with the supply of Haftaru.
        France - political support, shadow repair of Mirages, various non-public support. Well, when Haftar was going to die seriously, he was pulled from the other world precisely in France.
        Russia - officially handshakes in high offices and interests. Unofficially, I will repeat yesterday's photos and videos, retreats from Tripoli.




        https://twitter.com/AsbGhost/status/1264277993691721729

        PNS:
        Qatar - in cash, also purchased a limited batch of mercenaries, transported weapons. Now they bear the basic costs of a military operation. Provides BTA for the transfer of Syrians / weapons from Turkey, yesterday the Qatari C17A passed in from Turkey to Misurata.
        Turkey - Navy patrols the coast, A400 / Hercules + Watermelons / Boeings with l / s and cargo are constantly on the way. On the earth, thousands of Syrian militants deployed by Turkey and already somehow managed in a new place. Technique - starting from all sorts of Cyprus, ending with the T-62M captured in Syria, which can be seen by sea delivered to Libya. A lot of UAVs. Command of all operations. Turkish vacationers.
        Italy - political support. Some help with armament maintenance.
        1. V.I.P.
          V.I.P. 24 May 2020 12: 09
          0
          Pictured is the shell on the Kamaz chassis. There is also a burned on a trailer in Kamaz. UAE purchased on MAN chassis. Where in Libya on Kamaz and who is the operator then?
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 24 May 2020 12: 17
            +1
            From there, from where rare Urals, ordinary Urals, Msty-B, Tigers (in this column, too) and white people with tactical beards and slides wink .

            By the way, yesterday they proved to me that mines were placed in that compact quarter, at every turn, by local Libyans. So - 3 years of the war were even lazy on the road in front of the village to throw a couple of mines in the style of Sukhel, and here they forced 8 houses with a hundred mines. Inspiration found on them. So, they took their abandoned location. Traditional Libyan Cyrillic everywhere laughing



      3. Pike
        Pike 24 May 2020 11: 09
        +2
        A lot of mercenaries arrived from Syria, the Turks exported them from Idlib, now their number in military operations even prevails over the local fighters of the PNS.
  • sagitch
    sagitch 24 May 2020 07: 38
    -3
    Turks are like jackals at "Sherkhan"! (Who is "Sherkhan" is not even worth voicing)
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 24 May 2020 07: 39
    -9
    Marshall is old and thinks in terms of bygone times
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 24 May 2020 08: 29
      +5
      Yes, he thinks normally. As long as Haftar keeps the Libyan oil tap closed, no one really bothers him. But Saraj, who has a different opinion on this matter, as soon as he finally begins to win, runs the risk of following in the footsteps of Gaddafi or Hussein. They will again find some kind of test tube, or even just according to the current fashion of "high-like-like", they will bring a couple of AUG's Amero-killers there, and not any Turks with C400 will help Saraj. Edorgan, of course, is offended at Trump, but not so much that he would openly start fighting with amers.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 24 May 2020 08: 42
        -1
        Yes, all he thinks normally.
        I meant his words about the colony. After all, we, too, olonia ordered the gentlemen to raise the retirement age, obeyed, ordered to arrange self-termination everyone is happy. And so I completely agree with you.
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 24 May 2020 08: 50
          +1
          In modern times, no one can do without verbal pathetics. They say one thing (hang out), think another (trick), and do the third (what happens).
        2. Joker62
          Joker62 24 May 2020 10: 06
          0
          ... We, too, are olonia.
          from this place and in more detail ....
  • donavi49
    donavi49 24 May 2020 08: 03
    0
    Well, in fact, he kicked the Tripolentans when they were still Breaking Dawn - with the support of the UAE, Egypt, Sudanese fighters and as we see from yesterday’s video of the run from the Tripoli suburbs PMCs with heavy weapons (Msta-B, D30, Shell on Kamaz, Urals / Kamaz , Tigers).

    Dawn could not oppose anything to this. Palmaria repaired, and heels misurasti aircraft that flew on Soviet quality. They were helped with money. But only money can not win on the battlefield.

    Now Dawn (the jihadists) have decided (by the way, when they had the GV in the GV - Haftar had the greatest success and the campaign began on Tripoli, literally 2 weeks weren’t enough to win this way), the tripolents 100% of the Turkish leadership and the Turks fit in, even a little more active than Egypt, the UAE and PMCs before.
  • knn54
    knn54 24 May 2020 08: 07
    +1
    -USA is worried about the possibility of a complete victory of the PNS in Libya.
    The US has long felt the financial benefits of conflict — even during WWI.
    And today a strategic one has been added to it.
    The Turks once again carry "chestnuts from the fire" for the Yankes.
    Which will come to Libya for everything ready. Proved, at least by Syria.
    Moreover, the PNS really wants this.
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 24 May 2020 08: 42
      +2
      Are you sure of this, that in favor of amers? It seems to me that everything is quite the opposite. Edorgan's list is rather his personal initiative against the background of recent events (assassination attempt, f35, S400) And in case of victory, it is unlikely that he himself, voluntarily, will refuse the trophies. It is easier for Amers to "move" Haftar later. Moreover, he is old, Libya is just after years of civil war. Democratic elections, all that and according to the old scheme - give goodbye.
      1. knn54
        knn54 24 May 2020 11: 32
        +2
        1.PNS repeatedly asked the Yankees to build a base in the suburbs of Tripoli.
        During a visit to Turkey, the head of the PNS met with the US ambassador to Turkey.
        2 Haftar has a "khatynka" in the US. He opposed Gaddafi on the side of NATO.
        3. Haftar is ONLY the commander of the army of the "Tobruk government".
        And the JANQUESTS NEVER bet on one "horse".
        Do not discount the Berbers who do not like to fight outside their territory, and the venality of their leaders.
        Therefore they are. like the Kurds, they are unlikely to get their state.
        Only "booze", "booze" and will "booze". Of course for the money.
      2. Altona
        Altona 24 May 2020 12: 38
        +2
        Quote: Rusticolus
        And you are sure of it, what in favor of amers? It seems to me that everything is quite the opposite there.

        ------------------------
        Erdogan looked at the gestures of the US, Russia and the EU in the region for too long, then he thought "why am I worse?" and also began to move the carcass, trying to grab the still-nobody's wealth of Libya and Syria.
        PS SA, Israel and Iran forgot to mention.
  • nobody111body
    nobody111body 24 May 2020 08: 31
    +1
    in order to confront a handful of American Jews pushing the Turks to war, either in Syria or in Libya, any person who needs to nationalize Libyan oil is needed — anyone who can do it on a horse; it could be Haftar; Well, the Syrians and Iranians are also good at helping the Libyans by stretching the front and distracting the Turks from the idlib; of course it is necessary to fight the current and not fooling
  • Graz
    Graz 24 May 2020 08: 43
    +3
    Haftar must be supported at least in order to moderate the Turkish fervor
    1. Instruktor
      Instruktor 24 May 2020 08: 55
      -1
      Quote: Graz
      Haftar must be supported at least in order to moderate the Turkish fervor

      Yes, they seem to support behind the scenes, "Air Defense and" Tigers "new ones were spotted there ..
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 24 May 2020 09: 37
        +2
        There are still different prototypes lit up which in the 00s were promising, and then they were closed.



        Such incomprehensible Urals incidentally flashed in Syria. But there it was completely pixelated, not to make out. And here in full quality.
  • Altona
    Altona 24 May 2020 10: 43
    +2
    Haftar stupidly confirmed my yesterday's and the day before yesterday's words, against which yesterday fiercely objected left and right, especially those who believe in "Russian-Turkish friendship." True, Haftar is fighting against Turkish colonialism in favor of the same Russian imperialism, which at one time could not eat and really wanted the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles.
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 24 May 2020 11: 17
    +2
    For the time being, Haftar’s forces are holding back this opportunity for Saraj, but if LNA loses, Libyan oil will flood the world market and minimize all the agreements reached in the OPEC + format.
    The conclusion is very caveat - that is, let them fight endlessly ... the Libyans, by the logic of the author, of course should support the side that does not allow oil to be sold as before. In Soviet times, such cannibalism in thoughts was unthinkable
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 May 2020 11: 44
      +3
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      The conclusion is very caveat - that is, let them fight endlessly ...

      ------------------------
      This is "normal" today. The conclusion of the militant petty bourgeois is that "theirs colonialists should not interfere with our imperialists." Why shouldn't it be the tenth thing, the main thing is that Sechin and Miller "dictate their unyielding will to the entire world community." Although this is a stupid business, since the owners of the dollars for which the millers and sechins are sold always know where to kick the millers and sechins.
  • Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 24 May 2020 12: 40
    -2
    We must wait until the Americans merge Haftar. winked And then deliver a decisive, lightning strike. angry
  • alone
    alone 24 May 2020 15: 09
    -1
    Hawtor has turned into an instrument in the hands of the sheikhs of the UAE and the French, who are counting on the Libyan fields .. The French oil company TOTAL hopes to take control of all Libyan oil if Hawtor wins .. By the way, after Hawtor lost essentially a general battle for Tripoli ( And he lost this outright, it's a fact), the Emirates, Egypt and France are looking for his replacement .. The old man became uninteresting. Specific finances were spent for him, which were supposed to bring income .. And as we can see, there is no income.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 24 May 2020 17: 23
      0
      Again. For countless times. Haftar cannot be any tool other than the United States, as he not only studied there and was trained separately at the CIA camps, but his family is held hostage in the United States. The French can think (and obviously for the rollback. Well ... some French) that Haftar works for them, and give him money. But if he had a real opportunity to win (but she doesn’t), the United States would get all the preferences.
      1. alone
        alone 24 May 2020 18: 11
        +2
        Quote: Mikhail3
        separately trained in the CIA camps,

        He did not go through training there .. With the CIA money, he created an army there to overthrow Gaddafi .. The camps were in Chad .. After the change of power, he and his detachment had to be removed from there ..
        Quote: Mikhail3
        but his family is held hostage in the United States.

        In the USA, US citizenship is not given out to hostages .. it’s time to know this.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        The French can think (and obviously for the rollback. Well ... some French) that Haftar works for them, and give him money.

        The French are not fools to scatter hundreds of millions of euros for American interests .. France has its own interests and they know to whom and why they help ..
        Quote: Mikhail3
        all the preferences would go to the USA.

        Everywhere all the preferences go to them .. This is not news.
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Again. For countless times. Haftar can’t be any tool other than the United States, since he not only studied there,

        The fact of the matter is that Havtor graduated from the Academy of the Military University in Benghazi .. at the age of 26 he was a participant in Gaddafi's coup, was a member of the Revolutionary Command Council .. 1978 graduated from the Higher Officer Courses "Shot", and was also a student of courses at the Academy of the General Staff im.Frunze .. As you can see, there are no studies in America ... Learn materiel, and then blame someone not exactly
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 25 May 2020 13: 01
          0
          I understood. The Americans gave Haftar money just like that, and the fact that his family in the USA is an accident, but in general he is independent .. Do you yourself believe in everything you wrote ... is this ... the truth? And yes, Haftar studied in the USSR. Only the USSR is no more ...
          1. alone
            alone 25 May 2020 13: 11
            0
            I wish you all the best in life .. Just teach the materiel ..
            P.S. For some, even if someone cheated on the elevator, the United States is also to blame hi
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 25 May 2020 13: 27
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              And I do not wish you anything, because I do not know you. And I should not take into account in my reasoning absolutely nothing of what you wrote, because all this has nothing to do with the situation under consideration. If a person is shot with a pistol, when he is standing towards the shooter, this person will fall forward. Did this information, completely true, really help you? The statement that the Haftar family has American citizenship is reflected in exactly the same situation.
              It has. So what? Thanks to citizenship, are they not hostages? When it was necessary to test the effects of nuclear explosion radiation on people, the Americans dug trenches and planted their battalion in these trenches. Trenches began a hundred meters from the epicenter. All soldiers had American citizenship. It helped them a lot ...
              1. alone
                alone 25 May 2020 13: 30
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                All the offspring of your government have non-Russian citizenship .. You better think about why this is happening in your country .. Want to say that, they are also hostages foolIf they are hostages, so what is the difference between Libya and Russia? Is it still not calm and calm?
                1. Mikhail3
                  Mikhail3 25 May 2020 13: 31
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                  Apples and uncle in Kiev ...
                  1. alone
                    alone 25 May 2020 13: 32
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                    Quote: Mikhail3
                    Apples and uncle in Kiev ...


                    Well, when there is nothing to say, I recall Kiev wassat wassat
          2. Cat
            Cat 26 May 2020 08: 58
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            Quote: Mikhail3
            And yes, Haftar studied in the USSR. Only the USSR is no more ...

            A memory remained and respect hi ..Most of those who studied in the USSR now occupy high positions in their countries, maybe they don’t feel much love for Russians, but the majority have a feeling of gratitude in their souls .. The same Afghan mujahideen comparing our "Shuravi" and Americans .. Already They say with regret that they fought in vain, and as "Shuravi" warriors they were real and not only fought, but built ..
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 26 May 2020 09: 19
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              I agree. And with that great contempt they relate to Russia, because it was brilliant to ruin the USSR ...
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 24 May 2020 17: 20
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    Marshal Haftar: We will fight against Turkish colonialism
    As long as there are alternatively gifted country administrations supplying us with money and weapons! Well done, cho ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 May 2020 17: 50
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    Yes, this is understandable, Haftar is at home, but what the hell are the Turks doing in Libya, it’s not entirely clear.
    1. alone
      alone 24 May 2020 18: 15
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      Quote: Ros 56
      Yes, this is understandable, Haftar is at home, but what the hell are the Turks doing in Libya, it’s not entirely clear.

      The same as you are in Syria, my friend .. PNS is officially recognized as the legitimate authority in Libya. As well as Assad in Syria ... Assad officially invited Russia to help him .. PNS did the same by inviting Turkey ..
      If the PNS would invite Russia, you would now say other things)))
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 24 May 2020 23: 28
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        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Ros 56
        Yes, this is understandable, Haftar is at home, but what the hell are the Turks doing in Libya, it’s not entirely clear.

        Same as you in Syria, my friend..PNS officially recognized as legitimate authority in Libya. As well as Assad in Syria ... Assad officially invited Russia to help him .. The PNS did the same by inviting Turkey ..
        If the PNS would invite Russia, you would now say other things)))

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        Assad did not seize power in the country by force of arms. About cooperation with jihadists and writing is not necessary. Well, and of the minuses-this is the recognition of the legitimate authority of the Russian Federation by the PCV. you can’t argue here.
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 24 May 2020 19: 31
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    The photo is exactly the same Old Man with his son))
  • Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 25 May 2020 00: 29
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    Khalifa Haftar is a noble and strong military man.
    It is unlikely that he wants his country bad.
    And after the victory of Islam, Gaddafi will appoint the son of the dictator chief.
    Do not go to the fortuneteller.
  • Antokha
    Antokha 25 May 2020 14: 54
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    Competent move of the marshal! It is necessary to play the national card. Like, Turkey wants to enslave us (and perhaps this one is). Nobody likes when another country crawls into your house.