How the Polish Army of Craiova tried to detain the Nazis on the eastern front: from the history of World War II

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On the anniversary of the 75th anniversary of the end of World War II, questions are often raised about the provision of assistance to the USSR by Western allies. First of all, we are talking about the United States and Great Britain. It would be strange to not recognize the fact that help from the Allies played an important role in the defeat of the Nazis: supplies to the Soviet Union weapons and military equipment, ammunition, medicine and food. But at the same time, it would be strange to deny the fact that the Allies acted in their own interests. Moreover, often these interests directly contradicted the interests of the Soviet Union itself.

One example in this context is the example with the support of London, which sheltered the so-called Polish government in exile, the Craiova Army. As you know, these are armed groups that were originally created to counter the Nazi occupation of Poland. But in stories The Craiova’s army also has a period where the struggle against the Nazi occupation was, to put it mildly, strange.



The same Polish government in exile initially relied on the fact that Nazi Germany would prevail over the Soviet Union, and then the combined Western forces would defeat the Nazis and celebrate the victory. But when the Wehrmacht suffered its first defeat - in the battle of Moscow - the "Polish exiles", controlled by British intelligence, began to change approaches. So, analytics appeared, which consisted in working out the issue of the probability of a quick advance of the Red Army to the west in the event of a successful counterattack. This probability increased many times after the defeat of the Nazis near Stalingrad.

As a result, the headquarters of the Craiova Army, with the active support of British patrons, formed a plan that today is known to historians as the “Barrier”. The essence of the plan is this: to make the Wehrmacht’s retreat during the advance of the Red Army as difficult as possible, to detain the Nazis on the eastern front as much as possible. The goal is to give the Western Allies large forces to open a second front. In this context, it is clear that the West did not see the second front as certainly as assistance to the USSR in the fight against Hitler.

It is noteworthy - in the Home Army and the Polish government in exile, they openly talked about the fact that the imminent defeat of Germany did not meet their strategic interests, that is, the strategic interests of Western patrons. It was openly talked about "the threat of a quick attack by the Red Army in the event of a weakening of Germany."

Frankly speaking, such a policy can hardly be called a full-fledged struggle for the independence of Poland.

The Barrier plan really corresponded to its name: the German armies, suffering one defeat after another in the USSR, the Craiov Army, with the active support of finances and weapons from London, made retreat difficult. She did everything so that the Germans literally did not run. These are sabotage on the paths of a possible retreat - undermining railways, bridges, and other infrastructure.

At the same time, the goal was to prevent the Red Army from moving quickly after leaving the USSR during the offensive. Railways are blown up, bridges are often gone ... For obvious reasons, the offensive speed was slowed down for objective reasons.

Against this background, the Craiova Army also tried to negotiate with the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA - an extremist organization banned in the Russian Federation). And if in 1943-1944 such negotiations ended in failure and the Craiova Army fought against the UPA for some time, then in 1945 an agreement was reached. Its main essence is joint sabotage operations against the troops of the Red Army.

This year officially marks the 75th anniversary of the dissolution of the Home Army. But de facto some of its units and representatives continued to act against the authorities, including in the Soviet territories of Western Ukraine, until 1948. At the same time, again, not shunning contact with the UPA. Probably, such an interaction was in the interests of those Western forces that themselves had contact with both the AK and the UPA in their own interests — interests in containing the USSR.
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  1. -20
    23 May 2020 17: 45
    Comment on this nonsense, do not respect yourself.
    1. +5
      23 May 2020 18: 01
      Said in the comment. Good joke)
    2. +9
      23 May 2020 18: 15
      Ravil Asnafovich - and what is the article not thank God? Perhaps you confused the Army Craiova with the Army Ludova that you really fought against Nazi Germany? ??
      1. 0
        23 May 2020 18: 32
        I don’t confuse, there is simply nothing for our VO to do, they would write that there was no hero of the Soviet Union, Major General of Aviation S.M. Kramarenko, by the way, the last surviving pilot of the hero of the Soviet Union who received a star for Korea.
    3. +20
      23 May 2020 18: 18
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Comment on this nonsense, do not respect yourself.

      And right ... why respect you? "Army of Craiova ”set as its goal the restoration with the help of the USA and Great Britain of pre-war Polish statehood. The Soviet Union was seen as a situational ally in the struggle against the Nazis, but then the plans of the Craiova Army included the beginning of an uprising against the USSR with the aim of returning to Poland the power of all territories that belonged to it before 1939. In fact, formally collaborating with the Soviet Union, in fact, the “Army of Craiova” was playing a double game. In the territory of Western Belarus, the “Craiova Army”, from the very beginning of its existence, carried out operations against communist partisans, considering them as their natural opponents. At the same time, Polish nationalists tried to impersonate the allies of the Soviet partisans, but as soon as favorable circumstances developed, they instantly hit them in the back. When by the fall of 1943 the Red Army began to push the Nazis into the territory of Belarus, the attitude of the "Home Army" to the Soviet partisans became even worse. This was due to the fear of the Poles to again lose control of the territory of Western Belarus. In the Stolbtsovsky district, Poles from the local battalion of the "Army of the Local Army" shot ten Soviet partisans from the Zorin detachment. ... (Military Review of December 6, 2018) And so on and so forth ...
      1. +6
        23 May 2020 19: 43
        In fact, formally collaborating with the Soviet Union, in fact, the “Army of Craiova” was playing a double game.
        Why be surprised, as well as their masters and our allies, the Yankees and the British laughingWhich in the late 30s, Hitler's pacification policy, indirectly unleashed WWII.
    4. +2
      23 May 2020 18: 31
      You know, I will not be so categorical as Ravil Asnafovich, but ...
      I am always alarmed by articles without a signature and without links to any sources. It is desirable, of course, reliable.
      In this case, one poured out his thoughts on paper and gives them away as history.
      For example:
      The same Polish government in exile initially relied on the fact that Nazi Germany would prevail over the Soviet Union, and after that the combined Western forces would defeat the Nazis and celebrate the victory ...
      Very interesting...
      What kind of combined forces could you think of in 1939-1941, while in England, the ONLY European country at that time fighting against Hitler?
    5. -7
      23 May 2020 19: 59
      You shouldn’t be so. Everything is much more complicated. World War 2 is a project of the United States, or rather its leading part. The truth about her has not yet been voiced. As far as one can judge, its goal was to defeat Germany through Hitler’s shell government, which was led to power. For this, Soviet Russia was forced to rise, to which the United States provided industrial assistance, including through Hitler. Hence all the talk about the criminal plan of Stalin’s attack on Germany and Hitler’s inevitable attack on the USSR. Ultimately, World War II was won by Britain and the United States because the plan was implemented and both states disappeared from the face of the earth, despite the fact that the Second World War won the USSR alone against all. If for you this is nonsense, then in fact you yourself are delirious. The truth of the history of the 2th century has not yet been told.
      1. +2
        23 May 2020 21: 55
        Minus apparently not studying history. Smedley Buttler - Major General of the US Marine Corps, in! 934 testified about a conspiracy led by wealthy businessmen (American Liberty League), the purpose of which was to establish a fascist dictatorship in the United States with the organization of concentration camps for "Jews and other unwanted persons."
        1. +1
          24 May 2020 07: 21
          Tell us more about the love and sympathy for Hitler and the Nazis, in the royal family of Britain and in the circles of many industrialists and politicians. In general, this was the culmination of the sometimes hypocritical and secret and sometimes direct ideological struggle of the West against the USSR and, in the WWII, the geopolitical redivision of the World began when weakened Germany and Japan collapsed at the feet of all allies ....
      2. -3
        23 May 2020 22: 33
        World War 2 is a project of the United States, or rather its leading part. The truth about her has not yet been voiced.
        good

        Secrets of Anna Chapman?
        1. 0
          23 May 2020 22: 40
          In general, it is not clear what are you talking about?
          1. -12
            23 May 2020 22: 54
            Somehow knowledgeable people bypass the facts of the work of 1,5 million German specialists in the USSR on their own equipment due to the lack of those among the bastards in the USSR, which could be taken with their bare hands without any wars. The same specialists also worked from the United States on their own equipment supplied as part of gratuitous American aid. If such data is not provided and used, then the corresponding studies are empty and not worth the pixels on which they are recorded. those are stupidly amateurish. At the same time, no one has yet reminded me in the discussions of "experts" that Germany is not a full-fledged state, but is based on the 1946 decree of the commanders-in-chief of the occupation forces of Great Britain and the United States without any constitution. Discussion of any questions without this is empty chatter of Anna Chapman's admirers. That is, the secrets of WW2 are still hidden.
            1. +1
              24 May 2020 00: 02
              Alexander, who are you in life? Why such a chaotic, "semi-literate" presentation of your thoughts (or the text you read ...)?
              1. -3
                24 May 2020 00: 30
                This is how I look forward to understanding. It is necessary to include the brains. Some don't like it. In fact, it is very simple: there are facts unknown to the masses, but which change the picture of the world on the contrary. In the British Encyclopedia you will find a link to the above decree of the occupation forces (I myself did not believe, it is difficult to search, but there is), if you look through the facts of aid for the USSR, you will learn a lot about the real role of German and American specialists and technology and their scale, including Hitler, and then turn on the logic and think over why this is absent in the modern information space, but there are delusional statements from all sides that people hawala, including the discussions here. If this does not help, it is necessary to "drain the water" (like from the radiator in frost), because nothing else will help to find the truth. And it is also important to personally verify such discussions with foreign experts and scientists, who will reveal a lot of interesting things to you, directly or indirectly, again through your thinking. Indeed, Britain and the United States won the war. Very competent presentation of thoughts. Don't be dumb, otherwise history will repeat itself. Too much has been paid for her. Unfortunately, the eyewitnesses of the events gradually almost disappeared, it remains to restore the "picture of the world" from the archives.
    6. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 33
      Indeed, based on this logic, Belarusian partisans blew up bridges to slow the advance of the Soviet army.
    7. 0
      24 May 2020 21: 14
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Comment on this nonsense, do not respect yourself.

      The commentator said, commenting on a very robust article with little-known but interesting facts.
  2. 0
    23 May 2020 18: 01
    This AK was something like a pug.
    1. +16
      23 May 2020 18: 25
      Unfortunately, it’s not Moska at all, but well-armed, trained formations led by professional commanders. And they drank the blood of our soldiers fairly, and they also spoiled a lot. So, not the Pugs, but rather the Wolves, and as with the wolves they dealt with them over time, overlaid and destroyed.
      1. +1
        24 May 2020 15: 42
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Unfortunately, it’s not Moska at all, but well-armed, trained formations led by professional commanders. And they drank the blood of our soldiers fairly, and they also spoiled a lot. So, not the Pugs, but rather the Wolves, and as with the wolves they dealt with them over time, overlaid and destroyed.


        Nothing but shitting them for some reason was not enough. They would have fought with the Germans wisely in 1939.
        1. +1
          24 May 2020 15: 53
          It didn’t work out with the Germans, it wasn’t enough to see that very mind. request
          1. 0
            24 May 2020 15: 55
            Quote: Sea Cat
            It didn’t work out with the Germans, it wasn’t enough to see that very mind. request


            But the ambition of the clairvoyants was always enough. They beat them thoroughly for this, but they still did not become smarter, although, in theory, they should have become smarter after every good thrashing.
            1. +1
              24 May 2020 15: 58
              So, not in the "horse feed", let them frolic until the next section.
              1. 0
                24 May 2020 15: 59
                Quote: Sea Cat
                So, not in the "horse feed", let them frolic until the next section.


                It seems to me that now many countries of the world, primarily the neighbors of Poland, have understood too well what Poland is and there will not be any serious ones to get into it.
                1. +1
                  24 May 2020 16: 07
                  So they understood long ago what she was. Churchill even when he called Poland "the hyena of Europe".
            2. +1
              24 May 2020 21: 19
              Quote: NF68
              But the ambition of the clairvoyants was always enough.

              Exactly! As soon as they have a relative independence, attempts and conversations begin on "the revival of Poland from sea to sea." I do not know who exactly said "The history of Poland says that history does not teach the Poles anything!" Idiocy is incurable!
  3. -6
    23 May 2020 18: 19
    Firstly, who put me, minus, I wish you health and prosperity, but I really do not want to comment on this nonsense.
    1. 0
      24 May 2020 21: 24
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      but I really don’t want to comment on this nonsense.

      Can you justify your unwillingness with at least one fact, since you still don’t comment? What is the author raving about? Interesting, intrigued! Looks like the deck is up your sleeve! smile
  4. +12
    23 May 2020 18: 23
    Its main essence is joint sabotage operations against the troops of the Red Army.

    To this there is evidence of the participants of the Great Patriotic War, which describe the atrocities of the Polish AK:
    1. +1
      24 May 2020 18: 53
      Quote: ccsr
      Its main essence is joint sabotage operations against the troops of the Red Army.

      To this there is evidence of the participants of the Great Patriotic War, which describe the atrocities of the Polish AK:

      A colleague who grew up on Soviet literature knows very well what AK is. Or did you decide to do educational work for minors? They will not appreciate it anyway - they have a different scale of value. hi
      1. +1
        25 May 2020 11: 06
        Quote: Doliva63
        Or did you decide to do educational work for minors?

        Yes, I believe that I am obliged to do this, otherwise our descendants will grow up as Ivanes who do not remember kinship. That's why I'm trying to convey the information that they are unlikely to quickly find in a sea of ​​lies and misinformation of modern RuNet.
        Quote: Doliva63
        They will not appreciate it anyway - they have a different scale of value.

        I’m not so pessimistic - I had to talk with young people, my son graduated from high school last year, and in general they are quite developed people, but they have too much in their heads, so we need to tell them our point of view. Although of course they will not be like us anymore, but we must at least do something to make it worthy descendants.
  5. -7
    23 May 2020 18: 44
    What surprised the author? Each nation fights for its interests by ANY means. Ideologies (communism, "democracy", fascism) are secondary. AK rationally tried to destroy its enemies with someone else's hands. And they did it! We got the territory of East Prussia without significant hostilities.
    1. +2
      23 May 2020 21: 38
      The Poles did not know that everyone had already decided for them. Therefore, their throwing was really meaningless.
      With the help of three matches, Churchill moved the Polish borders in Tehran.
      But the Poles decided not to inform about this.
      . Churchill’s proposal was accepted that Poland’s claim to the lands of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine would be satisfied at the expense of Germany, and that the Curzon line (a conditional line) should be in the east as a border. Churchill finally decided the territorial issue, laying out three matches on the map of Eastern Europe. He laid two of them parallel to the borders of pre-war Poland, and the third - along the Curzon Line. Then Churchill took the extreme (eastern) match and shifted it to the west, at the same distance from the western border of Poland as from the Curzon Line, already along the Oder-Neiss line. Such a simple reception was approved by all participants, the USSR received areas in the northern territories of East Prussia with Königsberg, which soon after the occupation of the city by the Red Army was called Kaliningrad. At the insistence of the US president, the agreements reached in Tehran were not officially presented to the Polish government in exile
    2. +2
      24 May 2020 12: 32
      Quote: samarin1969
      AK rationally tried to destroy their enemies with the wrong hands.

      But nothing that AK was funded and supplied by Britain, which was an ally of the USSR? Our partisans in France did not destroy the British paratroopers who were abandoned for reconnaissance and sabotage - they knew perfectly well that these were our allies. Yes, and the army of Ludov in our zone was operating - why then did the Akovtsy send us, and not to other territories where there were German troops?
      Quote: samarin1969
      And they did it!

      Yes, they did not succeed, but Comrade Stalin was too generous to those who did not deserve it.
      Quote: samarin1969
      Without significant hostilities received the territory of East Prussia.

      Concerning Poland already expressed:
      “And now, when all these advantages and all this help were lost and abandoned, England, leading France behind it, offers to guarantee the integrity of Poland - that same Poland, which only six months ago with the greed of a hyena took part in the robbery and destruction of the Czechoslovak state” .
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 13: 02
        Quote: ccsr
        Yes, they did not succeed, but Comrade Stalin was too generous to those who did not deserve it.

        Yes, you're right here. Only "generous" is not the best characteristic of strengthening a future adversary. The Russians and the Poles have a feud for 500 years and no "PORP" can fix it. The Poles (AK) acted unscrupulously, like everyone who achieved something in history. Stalin could, in the interests of his people, be less "generous" with Eastern Europe.
        1. +2
          24 May 2020 13: 39
          Quote: samarin1969
          Stalin could, in the interests of his people, be less "generous" with Eastern Europe.

          I completely agree with this. But he was apparently mistaken about proletarian internationalism, believing that the ideas of building a humanistic society lay in the minds of all the peoples of the world. Unfortunately, the leader of the peoples also had mistakes, and then they came to us sideways.
    3. +3
      24 May 2020 19: 03
      Quote: samarin1969
      What surprised the author? Each nation fights for its interests by ANY means. Ideologies (communism, "democracy", fascism) are secondary. AK rationally tried to destroy its enemies with someone else's hands. And they did it! We got the territory of East Prussia without significant hostilities.

      “And they did it!” What did they do? Did you manage to take Konigsberg? Ours took him and other Prussia. The Poles did not succeed at all! Nothing. They were just lucky that they were in the USSR's plans for the future. Otherwise, they would not have gained anything, or they would have lost a lot. And the plans of the USSR did not depend on the "wishlist" of the Poles. Well, that is, historically, AK did not play any role at all, only ours shit and mastered the pounds. And it all starts with ideology - there is no state without it. It seems that you are already quite a few years old, but you are arguing at the level of a first-year student who was expelled for academic failure 20 years ago.
      1. -1
        24 May 2020 19: 31
        The Poles succeeded, having lost the battle, to obtain vast landscaped lands. As a Russian, I preferred that Königsberg be stormed by the Poles with corresponding losses. I know about the assault on Koenigsberg from the words of relatives who went on the assault hiding behind the bodies of their comrades.
        I graduated from East Faculty with honors. And this fact is not considered an achievement. This is not an occupation for a real man.
        You can argue for a long time on the topic of historical justice. But the ideology of AK is now blooming and triumphing in Poland.
        1. +2
          25 May 2020 11: 16
          Quote: samarin1969
          I graduated from East Faculty with honors. And this fact is not considered an achievement. This is not an occupation for a real man.

          You think so in vain - I listened with interest to Vladlen Sirotkin when he was alive, and now E. Spitsyn very interestingly presents the history of the USSR. So a good historian worth its weight in gold - I understood this a long time ago, and more often than not the Brewers on our screens flickered until they kicked him out with a bang for the fire.
  6. -3
    23 May 2020 18: 50
    I understand that they are putting a minus, and then they ask for help later for the development of the site, but do they ask for a lot, and really Poland is bad there, bad here, Ukraine bad there, bad here, now Belarus, etc., etc. .p, tell me please, who is good for Russia for us ??? Or is it a principle to pour mud on everyone, gentlemen, I don’t go to any Turkish resorts, I love my homeland .ps in the 90s, when it was difficult with monetary allowance, I wasn’t lackey, like some senior officers in academies, I did not work as a doorman (security guard) in entertainment establishments ...
    1. +1
      23 May 2020 19: 53
      Ravil hi , well, you understand that it makes no sense to judge by a dozen p r and d u r k about everyone. These narrow-minded uryakalki and nationalists do not make the weather either in the country or here on the website. For example, I was once dubbed "a Russophobe and a libert" just because I called the police station a cop. And the fact that in the south of Russia this institution was never called in another way, "comrades" were clearly not aware. "This is a patriotic side!" - They told me. Well, if they have such a touching attitude to the name of a "law enforcement" body as a manifestation of patriotism, so what else to talk about with them. So - spit it. smile
      PS Regarding the idiocy of the article, I agree with you, with all my negativity to the AKovtsev’s methods, I can’t imagine a similar situation, except in the form of a caricature, where the mustachioed pan in the confederate holds the fritz overcoat by the bracelet, banging his feet in place and trying to jerk off low start to Vaterland from the Eastern Front.
      1. +3
        24 May 2020 00: 27
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Regarding the idiocy of the article, I agree with you, with all my negativity to the AK’s methods, I can’t imagine a similar situation ...

        I agree that the article causes some confusion and "mistrust"! I was also surprised by the words in the article that the Akovites blew up "bridges and railways in the rear of the Germans in order to detain them and thereby force the Germans to offer more stubborn resistance to the advancing Soviet troops ..." But comment Ravil perceived it as a "complete rehabilitation" of the Polish AK, and therefore criticized his comments.
    2. 0
      24 May 2020 02: 07
      I criticized your comment, but did not put a minus ... I agree with the opinion that the assertion of the author of the article that the Akovtsy "blew up bridges and railways in the rear of the Germans only in order to force them to resist the Soviet troops more stubbornly and staunchly. ... "evokes, to put it mildly, mistrust ... But your" short and vague "comment I took as an excuse, the complete rehabilitation of the AK, which is" fundamentally "wrong! Yes ... individual detachments, ordinary AK fighters, ignorant of the political "multiple moves" of the "Polish-British" leadership tried to "honestly" fight the Germans, taking active actions, and died in battles and dungeons of the Gestapo ... But in general, AK refrained from very active hostilities against the German troops, fulfilling the directives of the London government! The meaning of the directives was to "save, save strength and wait ... not to get involved in active hostilities ..."! That is, these "artists" were waiting for the "stuntmen" to perform all the dangerous stunts for them; and then they appear to "win the applause"! The "London government" was also afraid of strengthening, the spread of the influence of the "communist" armed forces in the territories that it considered their own! It was also afraid of the strengthening, the spread of Soviet influence ... Therefore, it "blessed" the AK for armed resistance to "the communists and the Soviets", physical destruction " communist "partisans, cooperation with the Germans ... (for example, if the Akovites discovered a large detachment of Soviet partisans that the Akovtsy could not" cope "with on their own; then they reported to the Germans ... took them to the right positions.) One should not forget the armed AK resistance to Soviet troops, the authorities of the People's Republic of Poland at the end of the war in the liberated territory of Poland and Western Belarus, the first years after the war!
      Are you offended that Poland is considered "bad" in the VO? But didn't the Poles deserve it? It is known that the Poles living in the territory of Western Belarus happily greeted the Germans ... willingly and voluntarily went to serve in the occupational administrative and police structures! After the occupation of Western Belarus by the Germans, officials and policemen from the former Polish administrative and police structures ... These structures actively cooperated with the Germans! And what about the inadequate actions and conversations of Poles and Poland directed against Russia at the present time? After all this, why should Russians consider Poles, Poland "good"? belay
  7. +3
    23 May 2020 18: 55
    Craiova’s army is trying to hold back the retreating Wehrmacht in order to give the Anglo-Americans time to do something ... I didn’t hear delirium. I don’t suppose that there was a plan, but in my opinion, Polish emigrants simply had to draw up their existence and justify their financing by drawing up such plans ... Maybe something would happen locally, but it's like putting fences in the path of an avalanche.
    1. Mwg
      +1
      24 May 2020 05: 21
      And if we take into account the frequent cases of opposition of the AK to the advancing troops of the USSR, then perhaps we do not know about all the plans of the AK
  8. 0
    23 May 2020 19: 00
    The first one.
    Yes, the opening of the Second Front at the end of the war when the outcome of the war was clear, this is one of the few
    strategic mistakes Stalin in geopolitics. But this mistake is not at all how it writes here that how
    as if the opening of the Second Front had some influence on the actions of the Home Army.
    The second one.
    Judging by such articles, the subversive units of this Craiova Army were as much
    from fiction, that they successfully prevented the retreating Germans so that they would not retreat, but the Germans
    there were so many fools in front of the Poles that the Germans did not understand who there were blowing up bridges and roads
    pushing retreating not to be saved in Germany, but to wait in Russia, so that Britain
    could finish off the Germans on these blown up bridges and roads, but already as part of the Second Front.
    The third.
    The actions of the Home Army and the UPA have so much in common that just this is common and ensures that official Poland even minimally unmasks the atrocities of the UPA.
    Fourth.
    Poland’s dream was Germany’s attack on the USSR and so that the USSR would lose in this war. Then Britain and Poland enter the war and defeat Germany, weakened during the war. And Craiova's Army
    A victorious march strides along Berlin, and Britain and Poland share both the USSR and Germany.
    It can be assumed that Poland liked the territory of Germany more than the USSR. But from Smolensk
    and from Belarus, as well as from Vilna and Lviv, the Poles would never have refused in favor of Britain ...
    1. 0
      24 May 2020 01: 59
      And what is Stalin’s mistake, how could he prevent the arrogant Saxons and their minions from landing on the continent? The Red Army was still very far away and practical help, this allied offensive, provided. From Europe, the Germans could not transfer troops to our front.
      1. +1
        24 May 2020 07: 16
        And Stalin’s mistake was that the Second Front was not supposed to be in the strategic configuration that the United States and Britain managed to impose on Stalin. Thanks to this strategic configuration
        The Red Army had to lay another hundreds of thousands of its soldiers at the end of the war, freeing from
        Germans Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria - because the Second Front was too weak it
        And Stalin had to save this Second Front by intensifying the onslaught of the Red Army on its fronts, when after the landing the Germans began to beat this front. Moreover, after the Victory of the Red Army, Japan had to be finished off, which neither the leader of the recent Second Front of the United States could do, not to mention the fact that the United States did not even help her mother and creator and parent of Britain. For this, the Second Front was in a hurry and managed to drive on the shoulders of the Red Army
        to Berlin for the Victory Day, for the signing of Germany's surrender, for the export of German
        scientists, technology, archives and Nazi criminals in the United States and to prevent the unshared
        Germany, so that she realizing and redeeming her sins after the war did not begin to closely cooperate with the USSR. So to whom such a Second Front was more useful, profitable and needed, the USSR or the USA with Britain.
        After all, Britain could have sent armada of its bombers not for peaceful and without anti-aircraft defense, without military facilities in Dresden, for the accumulation of fascist equipment and manpower at the facilities of the Eastern Front or for such facilities in the Germans of occupied Europe, which the Germans certainly guarded. Indeed, if the raids on the defenseless and without the military object Dresden, more than seven hundred aircraft of the countries participating in this Second Front participated, since how many of these aircraft could destroy German soldiers and equipment if they flew into such clusters, and not defenseless and without military object cities in Germany.
        1. 0
          24 May 2020 13: 07
          Again. What did Stalin have to do to prevent and turn the events into the course you are describing? In my opinion, nothing. Stop at the border of the USSR and get a few more years of war with the Nazis who went and sniffed with the "allies"?
  9. 0
    23 May 2020 19: 07
    FIRST TIME I hear that AK would cooperate with the OUN.
    -On the night of February 5-6, 1945, Ukrainian groups attacked the Polish village of Barizh, near Buchach: 126 Poles were killed, including women and children. On February 12-13, a local OUN group attacked the Polish settlement of Puzhniki, killing about 100 people (Ternopil Oblast).
    -About 150-366 Ukrainian and several Polish residents of Pavlokoma were killed on March 3, 1945 (as a "response") by the remnants of the AK and local "self-defense squads".
    1. +4
      23 May 2020 23: 01
      The outrage of the descendants of the veterans of the Kraiova Army with honors rendered by the Свwiętokrzycka Brigade does not remove the issue of the activities of the Kraiova Army itself during the years of Hitler’s occupation. The current Polish authorities are imposing on society an impeccable image of “Akovtsy”, silent about the facts of cooperation with the Nazis.

      The cult of "damned soldiers", or How Poland fertilizes the seeds of neo-Nazism in Belarus

      The most famous commanders of the Home Army, who collaborated with the Nazis, were Adolf Pilch (call sign Gur) and Cheslav Zayonchkovsky (call sign Ragner). They had a choice: either together with the Red Army and the allied Polish Army Ludova, to free their homeland from the Nazis, or together with the Nazis to fight against the Red Army and the Ludova Army. Gora and Ragner chose the second.

      Moreover, Pilch began to cooperate with the Nazis in 1943, and in 1944 the command of the Craiova Army did not disdain to include his units. That is, conspiracy with the Nazis was not always considered by the Polish anti-communist bandit underground as a minus. Today, the name Pilch in Poland is called the street.

      Gora and Ragner were not the only supporters of the military fraternity with the Wehrmacht. Zygmunt Shenzelage (Major Lupashka), one of the cult figures of the anti-Soviet gang underground, who ordered his militants to kill Soviet soldiers on the spot, including women, in the winter of 1944 held talks on cooperation with SD officer Zaydler von Rosenfeld. The German promised military assistance to Lupashka’s detachment and other units of the Home Army. It was not possible to agree only because the Poles, except for military assistance, demanded recognition of the Polish borders of 1939 with Western Ukraine and Western Belarus in its composition.

      In the same year, officers of the Vilnius District of the Craiova Army repeatedly discussed with the Nazis the format of possible cooperation. The Polish historian Krzysztof Tarka in an article entitled “Negotiations of the Home Army with the Germans” writes that this happened in the Vilgis restaurant Valgis.

      A separate topic is the participation of the Craiova Army and its sympathetic elements in the extermination of Polish Jews. In 1939, by order of the Governor-General Hans Frank (executed in 1946 by the sentence of the Nuremberg Tribunal), the Polish auxiliary police was created (the so-called blue police because of the color of the uniform). Blue policemen participated in the arrests and deportations of the Polish and Jewish populations.

      The army of Craiova considered the “blue” policemen traitors, although she herself was involved in the Holocaust. After talking about the role of Poles in the Holocaust, Europe began to publish after the publication in 2000 of a Polish Jewish historian, Ian Tomasz Gross, who emigrated to the USA, "Neighbors ..." about the pogrom in Edvabna in July 1941. For many years, Polish propaganda lied that Jews the Germans burned in Edvabna. Warsaw later had to admit that this was the work of the Poles, engulfed in anti-communist hysteria. They burned their Jewish neighbors alive with the permission of the Germans, accusing them of sympathy for the Soviet regime. Craiova’s army fought not so much against the Germans as against the Soviet partisans and the civilian population of Belarus, Ukraine and Lithuania. After the war, her militants had to answer for the atrocities committed before the court. In post-socialist Poland they came up with a touching euphemism for “rejected soldiers” and put it on a podium. Say, rejected by the communist government for their allegiance to the Commonwealth, they are the ideal of the Polish patriot.
  10. +4
    23 May 2020 19: 17
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    You know, I will not be so categorical as Ravil Asnafovich, but ...
    I am always alarmed by articles without a signature and without links to any sources. It is desirable, of course, reliable.
    In this case, one poured out his thoughts on paper and gives them away as history.
    For example:
    The same Polish government in exile initially relied on the fact that Nazi Germany would prevail over the Soviet Union, and after that the combined Western forces would defeat the Nazis and celebrate the victory ...
    Very interesting...
    What kind of combined forces could you think of in 1939-1941, while in England, the ONLY European country at that time fighting against Hitler?

    Well, you didn't read the story well. France, Belgium, Czechoslovakia, Poland were "at war" with Germany then ... True, one week, the rest even less. After the defeat, they joined the war on the other side.
    The total losses of the United Kingdom in the war, together with the losses of the colonies, can be estimated at 450,9 thousand dead, of which only 97,8 thousand fall on the civilian population.
    All the dead must be respected, but nevertheless the contribution of Great Britain to the war could have been more substantial. Moreover, according to Lend-Lease, they received three times more than the USSR.
  11. +3
    23 May 2020 19: 27
    So bish, when our partisans blew up bridges and paths in the rear of the Germans, also prevented the rapid liberation of our territories by the red army?
    1. 0
      24 May 2020 11: 59
      So bish, when our partisans blew up bridges and paths in the rear of the Germans, also prevented the rapid liberation of our territories by the red army?

      The author of the article is probably a dropout student. Stupidity wrote, and everyone is seriously discussing :)
  12. +1
    23 May 2020 19: 29
    Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
    I don’t confuse, there is simply nothing for our VO to do, they would write that there was no hero of the Soviet Union, Major General of Aviation S.M. Kramarenko, by the way, the last surviving pilot of the hero of the Soviet Union who received a star for Korea.

    And who's stopping you from doing this?
  13. 0
    23 May 2020 19: 54
    Quote: "Such a policy, frankly, can hardly be called a full-fledged struggle for Polish independence." End of quote.
    Personally, I don't care: the role of AK is deeply clear, right up to tears - the same Bandera, but a view from a different angle. However, from the title it is clear that the author formulates this question as deeply "problematic". Thus, the next publication can be dedicated to the Banderaites.
  14. +2
    23 May 2020 20: 09
    Ukrainian OUN in Polish AK sounds.
    Polish AK in Ukrainian sounds OUN.
  15. -1
    23 May 2020 21: 14
    World War II often raises questions of assistance to the USSR by Western allies. First of all, we are talking about the United States and Great Britain. It would be strange to not recognize the fact that help from the Allies played an important role in the defeat of the Nazis: the supply of arms and military equipment, ammunition, medicine and food to the Soviet Union. But at the same time, it would be strange to deny the fact that the Allies acted in their own interests. Moreover, often these interests directly contradicted the interests of the Soviet Union itself.

    This is called snickering.
    Sorry, but they helped us a lot! And we were cut down the percentage is not frail for LL, and much was not subject to payment at all.
    Conscience must have!
  16. +2
    23 May 2020 22: 36
    In fact, both the AK and the OUN-UPA are guilty not only of the killings of Soviet troops, sabotage, etc. Every day on which these bastards delayed the war also led to the loss of US-WB-France troops and ... Poles in their ranks too . The blood of the Western Allies is in the hands of these Hitler accomplices, too. It was the accomplices and accomplices of his crimes - they did everything to prolong the war, that is, they fought on the side of the Nazis. And all the cries and snot in their favor is the grunt of their last.
    1. Mwg
      0
      24 May 2020 05: 10
      A puppet is a doll in whose ass the puppet master’s hand can’t be called either an accomplice or accomplice - she has no will of her own. The puppeteer is who the true culprit for the performance is. So all thanks for MV 2 are accepted in the USA, the addressee is the financial elite.
  17. -1
    23 May 2020 22: 41
    Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
    ? Or the principle is to pour mud on everyone like that, gentlemen, I don’t go to all Turkish resorts, I love my homeland .ps in the 90s, when it was difficult with money allowance, I wasn’t lacking, as some senior officers in academies did not work as a doorman (by security guard) in entertainment establishments ...

    Eh, yes you, my friend, have swung at the holy things. We have all the political leaders who have spread rot for years, and we, and the personnel, turned out to be MOST !!! patriotic - in the USA, to Israel, to Canada, to Yarosh, to Tyagnibog. And their children (remaining in Nenko) in Poland - wash the toilet
  18. Mwg
    0
    24 May 2020 05: 06
    If we consider the emergency opening of the second front by means of a huge number of victims in the context of this article, then the true meaning of the Allies' participation in the defeat of fascism becomes more clear: it was not the Soviet Union’s help in defeating fascism that was the main goal, but the seizure of territories for the organization of control sectors, and the seizure of the technologies of the Third Reich .
  19. Mwg
    +1
    24 May 2020 05: 30
    Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
    As far as one can judge, its goal was to defeat Germany through Hitler’s shell government, which was led to power. For this, Soviet Russia was forced to rise, to which the United States provided industrial assistance, including through Hitler.

    Isn't it exactly the opposite? Or maybe they tried to defeat the Stalinist USSR by means of the fostered Hitler at the head of the entire "advanced European humanity"?
  20. -1
    24 May 2020 18: 11
    According to this logic, our partisans: blowing up bridges, railways and carrying out sabotage in the rear of the Germans, also harmed the Red Army, preventing the Germans from quickly escaping from the territory of the USSR ????

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