NASA announced the readiness of the ship Crew Dragon for a manned flight

SpaceX's Crew Dragon spacecraft is ready for manned flight to the ISS. This was stated by the director of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) Jim Brydenstein.

Speaking at a briefing at the Kennedy Space Flight Center, Bridenstein said that the spacecraft Ilona Mask was fully prepared for a manned flight, scheduled for May 27. The ship is already installed on the launch pad.

The pre-flight review of all systems and subsystems has been completed. We are ready to start in five days. The booster is already on the launch pad.

- said the head of NASA.

In turn, the head of the commission for assessing the state of the ship’s and launch vehicle’s systems, Steve Jersek, noted that during the preparation of the ship for flight, discussions were held that lasted two days, but all issues were “closed”. They were also attended by "Russian colleagues from Roscosmos."

Our colleagues from Roscosmos participated in the discussions. Russian colleagues have been working with us since the first demonstration flight of the ship without a crew, and in preparation for the current flight they discussed all aspects. We gave technical explanations to our Russian colleagues and answered all questions.

- explained the head of the ISS flight program Kirk Shirman.

The manned spacecraft Crew Dragon, planned to be sent to the ISS, is a modification of the Dragon cargo ship, which has already delivered cargo into orbit in automatic mode. On the ship, whose launch is scheduled for May 27, and docking with the ISS at 28, the American astronauts Douglas Harley and Robert Benken will leave.

Recall that the United States stopped manned space flights in 2011, since that time all American astronauts were delivered into orbit by the Russian Soyuz.

Comments

[DEVIL LIFE'S]

Interesting, and then sanctions to Roskosmos for the eyes, or if something goes wrong.

[Civil]

We are waiting for "Musk is a fraud, nothing flies with him" all American astronautics bullshit, Rogozin boh. We are waiting for his trampoline 2.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Civil

Rogozin Boch

and what is it for?
discuss will fly ...

[Wedmak]

Max is really the rogue ... so far none of his subjugation ideas have worked. Dragon (like SpaceX) owes its appearance to NASA and the company with their money, experience, and specialists.
But there are still big questions for the operation of this ship, while it has not shown itself in any way: neither as reliable, nor as safe, nor as serial.

[Blackmokona]

NASA long before the advent of SpaceX gave the development of ships and rockets to corporations. Therefore, she had nothing but money. And she gave SpaceX money much less than other contractors.
For example, for money

September 16, 2014 NASA announced the signing of contracts with Boeing and SpaceX [1]. The contract with Boeing amounted to 4,2 billion dollars, with SpaceX - 2,6 billion, with the same contractual obligations: completion of development and certification of transport systems, test and staff missions to the ISS [19].

How is Boeing doing with specialists, experience and technology? And his ship even failed an unmanned test. And until next year, it’s definitely not going to fly with people.
Well, and about not one idea did not work?
What about Falcon-9, which has already flown 82 times successfully into space?

[Wedmak]

What about Falcon-9, which has already flown 82 times successfully into space?

NASA sponsorship, and not directly, from there the same technology, specialists, etc.
Do you seriously believe that one small company founded by a millionaire is capable of creating and launching a heavy rocket launcher in such a short time ??? Do not tell my slippers ...

[Blackmokona]

The technologies were developed during the work of SpaceX, experts were recruited from other companies and fresh ones from universities were hired on the open market.
Practice has shown yes, capable. This caused a stir in the market and the emergence of dozens of new spacecraft launch companies around the world. For example, the BO company in 2021 is going to launch its heavy New Glen launch vehicle; the RocketLab launches its light electrons already in series. People do, but do not whine, which is impossible

[Keyser soze]

that one small company founded by a millionaire is capable of

But they don’t fly ... They get to the edge of the Flat Earth and when they get to the Cosmos ...

[indy424]

little of. tesla don't go anywhere either

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

And she gave SpaceX money much less than other contractors.
For example, for money

Your example is only one stage of financing.

Quote: BlackMokona

development completion and certification

OCD, manufacturing, testing - where?

[Blackmokona]

All inclusive, read carefully

commitment: completion Development of и certification transport systems test и full-time missions to the ISS [19].

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

All inclusive, read carefully
obligations: completion development and certification

The word "completion" does not mean the entire volume. This is just additional funding for the project.

[Blackmokona]

Just the beginning of development is an excursion project, which is needed to generally participate in the competition. You can’t come to the competition with a statement, we will make some kind of ship sometime. We need calculations, pictures, and more.

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

the beginning of development is an excursion project

And after EP what? Where is OCD and production? Where are the trials?
Your "completion" is as usual, something was not enough and you need more money.

[Blackmokona]

So I pointed out that everything is included in this contract.
Development, test and staff missions and everything else

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

So I pointed out that everything is included in this contract.

Who is "he pointed out"?
Financing completion is the payment of the tail of the contract.
Payment of the contract is always carried out in stages, with full reporting. Until you report on success, no one will give you money for the next step.

[Blackmokona]

So this contract is divided into stages, which are paid with full reporting.
Launched unmanned to the ISS, get the loot.
Launched SAS in flight get the loot.
Launched a ship with astronauts in the first mission get loot
Launched a second time with astronauts to the ISS get loot.

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

So this contract is divided into stages, which are paid with full reporting.
Launched unmanned to the ISS, get the loot.
Launched SAS in flight get the loot.
Launched a ship with astronauts in the first mission get loot
Launched a second time with astronauts to the ISS get loot

Well, something comes, but not all ....
These steps are only after certification and a full test cycle (final stage of the contract).
Or do you think the end is with a flight to Mars (which no one in FIG needs)?

[Blackmokona]

Dragon 2 will receive certification only after the first successful flight with people.
And again, carefully re-read.

obligations: completion of the development and certification of transport systems, test and staff missions to the ISS [19].

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

And again, carefully re-read.
obligations: completion development and certification of transport systems, test and staff missions to the ISS [19].

Can you understand the difference between execution (main part) and completion (tail) ..?

[Blackmokona]

Yes, full implementation, if SpaceX would completely develop a ship from scratch with a NASA contract, and before the contract it was not a rumor about the ship at all.
The completion means that SpaceX has already done some work to determine the appearance and characteristics of the ship, with which it won a contract.
It’s just an exact bureaucratic formulation.

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

SpaceX has already done some work to determine the shape and characteristics of the ship, with which it won a contract.

It didn’t even start the work of designing, manufacturing and testing ....

[Blackmokona]

The beginning, with a preliminary design, work begins on the design, manufacture and testing ...

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

The beginning, with a preliminary design, work begins on the design, manufacture and testing ..

Do not twist and do not pile everything. Everywhere in the world these are different stages.

[Blackmokona]

http://grafika.stu.ru/wolchin/umm/eskd/eskd/GOST/2_103.htm

Design stages
(ESKD GOST 2.103-68)

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

http://grafika.stu.ru/wСтадии проектирования
(ESKD GOST 2.103-68) olchin / umm / eskd / eskd / GOST / 2_103.htm

And then hack.
Right here:
http://docs.cntd.ru/document/1200001990
And all these stages go after the conclusion of the contract according to the results of the approved TOR (of those tasks).

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

Well, and about not one idea did not work?
What about Falcon-9, which has already flown 82 times successfully into space?

Actually, the idea was to provide cheap launches. But the price gap between advertising and real military launches is huge and shows that the average cost is very high ..

[Blackmokona]

Are you seduced by that nonsense of Rogozin?
https://elonmusk.su/spacex-vyigryvaet-kontrakt-82-mln-dlya-falcon-9-na-zapusk-sputnika-gps-3-v-2018-godu/

The SpaceX development company received a contract for $ 82,7 million from the U.S. Air Force to launch a GPS satellite in May 2018. For SpaceX, this will be the first project for the Armed Forces since the company received permission to launch military satellites in 2015.

Almost all are commercial or for NASA at very different prices.
https://prostopasha1914.livejournal.com/432404.html

For the entire mission, the entire costs were limited to $ 50,3 million (and this is taking into account ALL costs, including overheads - that is, the launch is even cheaper). This is where Elon Musk appeared - considering that his "workhorse" Falcon-9 with reusable first stages is being invested into this cost with a profit.

https://prostopasha1914.livejournal.com/432404.html
An advertising by the way on the SpaceX website is 62 million per launch.

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

https://prostopasha1914.livejournal

Is this OBS? Why don't you, at all, link to your comments on other sites ("I said so").

[Blackmokona]

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/07/rocket-report-falcon-9-beats-pegasus-on-price-vega-has-its-first-failure/
Google Translate

Falcon 9 hits the Pegasus rocket for the price. NASA signed a contract to launch SpaceX on July 8 to launch a small astrophysical mission, as the company offered the previously launched Falcon 9 at a lower price than a much smaller rocket. NASA said it selected SpaceX to launch the X-Ray Polarimetry Imaging Browser (IXPE) mission in April 2021 for $ 50,3 million, including the launch itself and other mission-related expenses.

Talk about the importance of reusability ... Mission officials substantiated the use of the Pegasus XL rocket to launch a spacecraft. Departing from the Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific Ocean, Pegasus XL will be able to launch IXPE into the desired orbit. But a Pegasus rocket would cost more. What is surprising, because the Falcon 9 rocket has 50 times the payload of a Pegasus. (JohnCarter17)

[Genry]

Quote: BlackMokona

https://arstechnica.com/science/2

So I need to believe that the earth is flat:
http://www.meltingreality.com/ploskaja-zemlja-dokazatelstva/

[Blackmokona]

Well, believe what a problem, I brought you an authoritative media. Let it fall in English, as ours is not loving to cover such moments.

[Genry]

If there are scans of the contract, then the site is reputable. And this is your simple "yolk".

[Blackmokona]

https://tass.ru/sport/4382248

Kuznetsov signs $ 62,4 million contract with NHL Washington

I can’t see the scan, TASS yolk

[Mikhail3]

Musk receives money bypassing NASA, directly from the government. In order to create his company, money laundering through NASA began to smack.

[Blackmokona]

You just don’t know that before Mask arrived, the ULA had a monopoly on heavy launches at the Boeing-Lockheed alliance, and not at NASA, so your plan is completely crazy. The main lobbyists already had a monopoly on launches

[tracer]

Exactly, pray better for your little Mask or what you do there for it. You look, and the launch will succeed ..... into space.

[Interlocutor]

Interesting, and then sanctions to Roskosmos for the eyes, or if something goes wrong

Space is such a thing that it can go wrong, flying on the 6th or 16th. And then something will have to be done, but then he imposed a bunch of sanctions.

[Venya Selnikov]

There will be a Boeing for this.
Something can go wrong with anyone (and the Union can also), which is why NASA wants to have at least 2 working projects manned by spacecraft. To duplicate and reduce risks.
And this is not counting Orion, because he is supposed for long-distance missions, although the NOU can certainly fly.

[Interlocutor]

Distant missions of people?

[Venya Selnikov]

Quote: Interlocutor

Distant missions of people?

Yes, above the DOE. Most likely there will be a near-moon station, although in the 24th year I don’t believe it, but a year or two later — it’s real ... the contracts have already begun to be distributed, and Orion will fly to it with people. At the first stage. Then maybe someone else will join, but at first it was Orion.

[Interlocutor]

But how will we deal with radiation and solar flares? Have you come up with a pill? Or did the induced radiation become not afraid of us?

[Venya Selnikov]

Quote: Interlocutor

But how will we deal with radiation and solar flares? Have you come up with a pill? Or did the induced radiation become not afraid of us?

In fact, the devil of radiation outside the NOU is not so terrible as it is painted. With flashes in the sun more, but briefly.
It is precisely the testing of radiation-resistant long-term solutions for modules, improved protection for residential modules (emnip, assuming at least water "jackets") is one of the goals of the getuway.
Well, you can play a lot of missions.
Those. brief missions are supposed at first to getaway, which will reduce the accumulated doses by several times. Long ones are also supposed, but only later, when the modules with normal protection will be.
By the way, just because of the understanding of the importance of radiation, one of the first scientific devices there was chosen the means of radiometric control:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-selects-first-science-instruments-to-send-to-gateway/

[Interlocutor]

The more interesting it will be to observe. But something seems to me that not everything is so simple there, or rather not at all simple. This is not a small compartment, for astronauts in orbit at a station where you can hide from radiation.

[Venya Selnikov]

In space, everything is not easy, but you are not afraid of wolves - do not walk in the forest.
In the main inhabited module, increased radiation protection is assumed, where they will sit out during flares, but the flashes are short (they are not planned on the ISS during active flashes of the VCD).
In fact, the radiation in the orbit of the ISS may be even larger in some periods than on the getuwe, because although the orbit of the ISS is chosen so that it does not intersect with the lines of force, in the places of some anomalies (above the Atlantic and Brazil) the lines of force descend very low and during flares the dose absorbed on the ISS may be greater than outside the force field.
Well, on the ISS, read no radiation protection at all.
Getaway - these are new challenges for engineers. It would be nice, of course, for us to participate there, at least a small fraction, but it is unlikely to be.

[acetophenone]

I hope everything goes according to plan. It will not be good if people burn up again.

[nPuBaTuP]

To be honest, I have some kind of twofold feeling .... and of course the desire for everything to go well and the ship to fly .... still the development of astronautics .....
and it’s not strange, the desire that he crashes .... well, this is already on the subcortex ... all against the mattresses .....

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

To be honest, I have some kind of twofold feeling .... and of course the desire for everything to go well and the ship to fly .... still the development of astronautics .....

Let it fly and return.
Maybe this will stimulate us a little ...

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

I agree one hundred percent, we are not going to get such a kick in one place, we don’t do anything.

[Rostislav]

It is unlikely. Rogozin’s salaries and bonuses do not depend on the results of work. And the desire to lead their country into leaders is also only in words. Unfortunately.
Judge not by words, but by their deeds.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Rostislav

Rogozin’s salaries and bonuses do not depend on the results of work. And the desire to lead their country into leaders is also only in words.

We are not all Rogozins.
"Let's survive this corn too" ©

[Kronos]

This is because you are a fool, since the development of humanity is no more important for you than minor strife

[Interlocutor]

I agree. It’s time for the Americans to fly their ships. Development must always go in parallel. Here, humanity will have to decide with radiation fields around the earth. Do not fly to the moon each time flying around them. And there above 500 km, very tough. Yes, and the moon is not sugar. One good solar flare and there is no astronaut il astronaut il tyconaut.

[Izotovp]

Hi Rogozin. So the Americans made their trampoline. And we are cutting all the money for old projects. It’s sad. After all, there are bright heads, I personally studied with them!

[Ham]

and they do not have an "old project"? 50 years ago for them it was a routine, but now it is as much joy as if the first person is launched ...
this is an example of how quickly you can lose technology and then throw away much more money in order to recreate them than "sawing money for old projects"

[Vadim237]

Dragon 2 ship, unlike Apollo, is reusable as the first stage of a rocket on which the ship will launch progress - of course.

[Genry]

Quote: Vadim237

Dragon 2 ship, unlike Apollo, is reusable as the first stage of a rocket on which the ship will launch progress - of course.

Find out what the engines of Dragon-2 (analogue of heptyl) work on and where this fuel is in it (under the astronauts' seats), then you will immediately say: "Well, it's on ...". And explosions occur precisely because of the complexity of the passage of fuel through pipelines (water hammer)
In Soyuz, there is nothing dangerous in the descent capsule.

[mark2]

Only the Shuttle was reusable. And the return of the pipe to the ground is the return of the pipe to the ground.

[AML]

What they did, well, there is nothing surprising, there are no breakthrough technologies in rocket engines. During the time that they sawed it, China has already climbed into space. The only question for the Americans, why so long? I do not believe in the hope that they can count money and therefore consider it economically feasible to fly on Russian engines. For the Americans, tens of billions back and forth does not matter, and even more so in such matters of principle.

[Blackmokona]

Because Congress did not allocate money for the project. The contract for a manned spacecraft with SpaceX was concluded only in 2014, and the first money went only in 2015. Also, NASA changed the requirements for the ship 100500 times during the project, plus Boeing judged by an audit to make money for NASA officials to delay SpaceX

[Iris]

Judging by the audit, Boeing was making money on NASA officials.

In fact, this is a charge of corruption against NASA and Boeing! If this is evident from the audit to you, the budget commissions of the Congress, I think, would they see it all the more? ..

[Blackmokona]

Well, yes, the audit was created to identify contract violations and all kinds of corruption. In the audit, it was indicated, for example, that in violation of the rules NASA changed the contract without notifying SpaceX and held a tender with the only bidder to accelerate the development of the manned spacecraft and gave Boeing $ 287 million. As an example. Skanchalchik was not bad.

[Iris]

Wow! .. Something reminds me of it all ..

[orionvitt]

Quote: AML

For the Americans, a dozen billion back and forth doesn't matter

Already has. The blessed times are over. We will see how it flies.

[eklmn]

“The only question for the Americans, why so long?”
Yes, because NASA, after the shuttles, refused to manufacture rockets.
It was cheaper to pay Russia. But a holy place does not happen empty and there was a private trader who 10 years went to the first launch.
Question to the Russians. Where is your private trader, who with a team of 6 thousand people would create competition with Rogozin with his 400 thousand.?

[slipped]

Quote: eklmn

It was cheaper to pay Russia.

It is now cheaper.

Quote: eklmn

But a holy place is never empty

Of course, only recently, in April, a new crew was delivered to the ISS, on the next, only in the ISS program, the 62nd (!) Soyuz MS-16 spacecraft.

Quote: eklmn

and there was a private trader who 10 years went to the first launch.

Initially, the terms were called much shorter.

Quote: eklmn

Question to the Russians. Where is your private trader, who with a team of 6 thousand people would create competition with Rogozin with his 400 thousand.?

The answer is most likely "non-Russian" - have you been in hibernation for the last 20 years? Roskosmos has a well-functioning space transport system on the ISS, which has proven its reliability not in word but in deed. Many times. "Soyuz MS" is called. Now it delivers to the station in four orbits, but soon it will learn to deliver cosmonauts in one orbit, i.e. for an hour and a half. Super fast and clear.

And we also have a "private trader" - for example, the private satellite construction company "Sputniks", which has already started practically industrial production of small spacecraft for sale - their new and already serial spacecraft fly this year in a cluster at Soyuz-2.

The private company "Kosmokurs" is creating a suborbital rocket for tourist launches at an altitude of 200 km, in a couple of months they are already starting the OSI of their engine. In addition, a competition has been announced for the creation of an ultralight carrier, and the same "Kosmokurs" has already announced that it will participate in it with its own project. There are other private companies that are successfully working in the Russian space industry as subcontractors.

[eklmn]

“It is now cheaper. (fly in Russian) ”
NASA pays Russia from $ 75 million to $ 80 million for one astronaut.
NASA pays SpaceX $ 55 million for one astronaut. As you can see, the difference is significant.
“Initially, the terms were called much shorter.” So what?
Five-year plan for 3? Were the plans broken? Is someone financially hurt? NASA - yes, suffered - overpaid Russia, it is! But they didn’t tighten it because of theft !!!
Well, for the rest, you are right - Russia has progress, and significant! I wish the entire 400 thousandth staff of Roscosmos, its leader Rogozin, further success on the thorny path of space exploration, health and happiness in personal life !!!
I also wish success to private companies in their difficult business - the path is thorny and difficult. Good luck !!!

[slipped]

Quote: eklmn

“It is now cheaper. (fly in Russian) ”
NASA pays Russia from $ 75 million to $ 80 million for one astronaut.

NASA pays more than $ 90 million for a six-month flight. Well, this is a special price tag for NASA.

Quote: eklmn

NASA pays SpaceX $ 55 million for one astronaut. As you can see, the difference is significant.

SpaceX designed the ship with NASA money and now, in your opinion, should NASA pay SpaceX? Nothing confuses you in this statement?

By the way, the flight of the Arab cosmonaut Al-Mansuri on the "Soyuz MS" cost the Arabs a little more than $ 40 million

Quote: eklmn

“Initially, the terms were called much shorter.” So what?

Yes, but what bothers you? They have been flying for two years now.

Quote: eklmn

Five-year plan for 3? Were the plans broken? Is someone financially hurt? NASA - yes, suffered - overpaid Russia, it is!

He asked the question himself, and he himself answered. By the way - NASA is the customer and continues to "overpay" further.

Quote: eklmn

But they didn’t tighten it because of theft !!!

Are you sure?

Quote: eklmn

Well, for the rest, you are right - Russia has progress, and significant!

Of course have. You just probably don't want to see him. Well, I remind you that we have switched from leak-tight systems in space to leak-tight systems with a long active life. We create new composite structures.

The previously destroyed production of the domestic electronic component base was practically restored, here is the schedule for using the domestic electronic components in the new GLONASS satellites:

We have created a powerful civilian constellation of remote sensing satellites and provide service packages to various customers, including foreign ones:

and start to launch spacecraft into deep space:

As for manned flights, from next year Russia will increase the production of Soyuz MS spacecraft to three per year and begin assembling a new-generation spacecraft flight product.

[silverwolf88]

"And we saw all the money" ... and you stop sawing ... and everything will work out for you ...

[Interlocutor]

Offer your leader

[Interlocutor]

Do you have a confirmation that we are sawing on old projects? The key word is "sawing". Draw a line between old and new projects. When should the old end and the new begin?

[Simon schempp]

I foresee sarcastic comments like: "Well done, Americans. They repeated what the Soviet Union did 60 years ago."

[orionvitt]

Quote: Simon Schempp

I foresee malicious comments

And what is wrong? If for Russia flights of cosmonauts into orbit and maintenance of the ISS by replacement crews is a routine, then for the "most technologically advanced" country, this is an event. Many questions arise.

[Courier]

And who is the most technologically advanced power for you?

[orionvitt]

Quote: Courier

And who is the most technologically advanced power for you?

First of all, give me the definition of a "developed technological power" and I will answer you. Just do not talk about iPhones, otherwise schoolchildren are immediately guessed, for whom, a fancy mobile is the height of human civilization.

[A.TOR]

In fact, the "fancy mobile" is the "top of human civilization".
Because this is a completely new level in the organization of interpersonal communication, with all the so-called "pribludes" - binding to a bank card, navigation, etc. and so on.
For billions (!) Of people, this is a huge window into the world of completely new opportunities, a tremendous simplification of doing business, organizing personal life, and much, much more.
This is a new ideology of life.
But the release of new, "unparalleled" tractors is already a routine. And how long

[mark2]

Wow! Is telephone the top of civilization? Gygygy.
And I thought the creation of a nuclear submarine. A nuclear submarine is the most technologically sophisticated product on this planet. Even taking off into space is easier than dropping a few hundred meters under water.
Thank you for opening my eyes.

[A.TOR]

The development of mankind is the development of communicative opportunities. The easier (and faster) information exchange takes place - the faster the development of society.
Yes, the creation of a nuclear submarine is a complicated thing. By the way, the United States was the first. But these, of course, are trifles.
But the creation of a nuclear submarine - like other technology - is just the tip of the iceberg. It looks good, of course, but - to be honest - it especially affects people's living standards indirectly through the introduction of technologies created during the development of nuclear submarines in everyday life. There were / there are countries that created submarines, but outhouses, sorry, almost the majority of the population, were on the street.
"Gygygy" is a sign, sorry, of the previous socio-cultural model. Neanderthal.

[Charik]

The first were refugees from tsarist Russia, so they made submarines in America only

[orionvitt]

Quote: A.TOR

This is a new ideology of life.

Clearly, the Internet generation. The head is empty. But why have something in mind if in a fashionable device terabytes of memory with network access.

For billions (!) Of people, this is a colossal window into the world of completely new opportunities, an amazing simplification of doing business, organizing personal life, and much, much more

Fashionable, stylish, and no need to think.

[A.TOR]

Yes ... you are right ... at age 60 I stupidly stupid ... sorry fool ...

[slipped]

Quote: A.TOR

Yes ... you are right ... at age 60 I stupidly stupid ... sorry fool ...

By the way, regarding technological development on the topic:

for example, here are two brave US astronauts who are flying in this ship sitting in a teslamobile:

pay attention to the cervical articulation of their elaborate cinematic helmets with overalls - reminiscent of a gypsum medical bandage, right?

Now look at the "ancient" flight suit of the "Mercury" astronaut John Glenn:

His helmet has a fully sealed articulated joint (!), I.e. his helmet unfolds with the turn of his head. And the spacesuit itself does not at all look like a "plastic" one.

[Vadim237]

The Soviet Union did not have such reusable ships like missiles, and Buran flew once and without a crew.

[mark2]

Note in unmanned mode. Myself! Do you understand? it was controlled by a computer. Soviet computer! Do you understand this? not from Earth, nor the pilots. he himself !! he took off, he sat down. At that time, as now, no one has done anything like this, is not doing it and will not do it.

[KVU-NSVD]

Our colleagues from Roscosmos participated in the discussions. Russian colleagues have been working with us since the first demonstration flight of the ship without a crew, and in preparation for the current flight they discussed all aspects. We gave technical explanations to our Russian colleagues and answered all questions.

And what did they discuss there together? Only docking systems come to mind, but they have already been worked out for a long time, and the masked Dragon has already flown, there I think everything is the same with the manned

[Blackmokona]

There Musk wanted to do everything the same way as a manned one, they even put the LSS on the cargo. But NASA demanded the whole project of constant alterations. Therefore, on the contrary, a new version of the cargo was made from a manned one. Since there is almost nothing left of the old design.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Repetition, mother of teaching ..., etc.

[slipped]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

And what did they discuss together there?

The thing is that the ISS is an international project. Accordingly, all decisions on working with the station are made by a joint commission consisting of specialists from the two main countries participating in the project - Russia and the USA. The remaining countries participating in the project occupy a subordinate position to the USA - their opinion is taken into account according to the US quota. In this case, the flight of a manned ship affects the station as a whole - therefore, for its flight there, approval of the Roskosmos specialists is required, who checked the compliance of the technical specifications for the ship with the actual state of affairs. Earlier, the docking of an unmanned vehicle to the station led to an increase in the level of isopropyl alcohol in the atmosphere of the ISS, and the return vehicle exploded in post-flight tests.

[KVU-NSVD]

Thanks for the clarification - clearly and intelligibly.

[qobnvmog]

Russian astronauts may well fly dragons if it will be cheaper than unions.

[slipped]

Quote: qobnvmog

Russian astronauts may well fly dragons if it will be cheaper than unions.

Russian cosmonauts will fly on the Crew Dragon if, firstly, this vehicle proves its reliability and safety in serial flights. Secondly, it will only be cross-exchange flights with American astronauts with their delivery to the station, on the Soyuz MS, if an urgent replacement of the crew members is required. And yes, this does not work "cheaper than unions" - Russian cosmonauts fly on "Soyuz" not at commercial prices.

[Disant]

And yes, this does not work "cheaper than unions" - Russian cosmonauts fly on "Soyuz" not at commercial prices.

it's five!
Now, apparently, below the scan of payments for the flight on the dragon will be reset. Of course, with an explanatory note on the benefits of a market economy in the militarization of space

[zwlad]

Have a good flight to them. They are like Gagarin. For the first time on a new ship.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: zwlad

They are like Gagarin

Compare member with a finger.

[zwlad]

And there and there the first manned flight on a new ship
It’s one thing when they fly on decades of proven technology and another thing when for the first time on a new ship.

[Interlocutor]

Definitely Heroes

[zwlad]

Heroes Perhaps so to speak. Our astronauts are assigned Heroes. But I would not want to be in their place.

[Interlocutor]

Yes. They have a rather dangerous mission.

[Mountain shooter]

I really hope that people will not die ... very much such a Musk ... PR man, in short. All to the public, all to show off ... When the car launches - let him. And here PEOPLE!

[Blackmokona]

The ship is equipped with a proven SAS in real flight, countless tests have been passed under the strict control of NASA, the rocket has very high reliability.

[engineer74]

Quote: BlackMokona

The ship is equipped with a proven SAS in real flight, countless tests have been passed under the strict control of NASA, the rocket has very high reliability.

I don’t want anyone’s blood and I don’t wish disaster for the Dragon. But all these tests "for reliability and safety", as well as "strict control", the last 20 years, turn into a bunch of victims, the same Boing, F-35, Tesla, Samsung and many other smaller things. Something in this system is incomplete.
IMHO

[Blackmokona]

Because it is impossible to achieve 100% reliability regardless of the quantity and quality of the tests performed. There is always a well-disguised "No.?" which will bypass any restrictions and difficulties during the construction or operation of the product.
You need to look at the number of victims statistically, and then you can see that the number of Tesla accidents is several times less than that of conventional cars in the USA per 1 million kilometers traveled, that the number of accidents per passenger kilometer in aviation is constantly falling, etc.

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Quote: engineer74

But all these tests "for reliability and safety", as well as "strict control"

The Crew Dragon rescue system was tested in a very "gentle and gentle" mode. It was felt that it didn’t want to lose one more SpaceX. Therefore, the ship was undocked from the missile, which was in passive ballistic flight, which, after leaving the ship to a safe distance, was effectively undermined for the sake of PR. In fact, these tests have passed for "show" in front of NASA. If we recall the last accident of the Soyuz-FG, then there the process developed according to a different scenario - the timely non-separation of the side block of the first stage and the subsequent "impact" on the central block of the second stage of the rocket with the penetration of the kerosene tank led to the loss of orientation of the bundle of the second and third stages with the space ship - the rocket began to unfold across the stream, i.e. the rocket reached an outrageous angle of attack, and even in this case the SAS worked as required. Those. for authenticity with reality, it would be desirable to test SAS Crew Dragon from a rocket in the process of yawing, thereby simulating an explosion of the rocket engine, but SpaceX experts did not go for it, limiting themselves only to their (engines) shutdown. Well, the "explosion" was much later.

[Blackmokona]

This is a direct lie.

As can be clearly seen in the photographs of the activation of the CAC, the flame from the Falcon-9 engines spied at the same time as the CAC engines opening the Dragon from Falcon.
Well, the rocket exploded as a result of the loss of the fairing, which the Dragon acts in the dense layers of the atmosphere.

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Quote: BlackMokona

This is a direct lie.

In what This only confirms the gentle operation mode.

Quote: BlackMokona

As can be clearly seen in the photographs of the activation of the CAC, the flame from the Falcon-9 engines spied at the same time as the CAC engines opening the Dragon from Falcon.

So what? How does this contradict the foregoing? Perhaps the flight was not even passive at that moment - if the engines had been turned off before the SAS was triggered, the rocket would have risen just across the stream, which happened a few seconds later. And so it was still stable, which allowed the ship to come off.

Quote: BlackMokona

Well, the rocket exploded as a result of the loss of the fairing, which the Dragon acts in the dense layers of the atmosphere.

Are you sure that the APO was not there?

[Blackmokona]

Almost in all of your comments.
The power of the Dragon-2 engines is enough to come off at any angle, tests were carried out when the maximum aerodynamic drag of the rocket was reached
APO on Falcon-9 is fully automated, and it worked because the rocket left the estimated flight conditions.

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Quote: BlackMokona

Almost in all of your comments.

Oh li

Quote: BlackMokona

The power of the Dragon-2 engines is enough to come off at any angle, tests were carried out when the maximum aerodynamic drag of the rocket was reached

Power is unimportant - the ship was torn from a stably flying rocket. Do you deny it? this is also visible in your photo.

Quote: BlackMokona

APO on Falcon-9 is fully automated, and it worked because the rocket left the estimated flight conditions.

Opa, APO - automatic detonation of an object - it a priori happens automatically even by name.

[Blackmokona]

Power is unimportant - the ship was torn from a stably flying rocket.

What is the difference between a stably or not stably flying rocket? Reduced aerodynamic drag during firing? So this is a simplification of the work of the SAS, and not complication. And the height allows in any direction to give an impulse without threat to the crew.

No, APO is usually driven from the ground, after which it already automatically explodes. Nobody there sets fire to a manual wick. Here, a fully automatic system, on Earth, no one with a button is needed.

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Quote: BlackMokona

What is the difference between a stably or not stably flying rocket?

When an accident occurs, a rocket, or indeed any product, very rarely remains stable. The accident at the Soyuz-FG clearly showed this.

Quote: BlackMokona

No, APO is usually driven from the ground, after which it already automatically explodes.

Yeah

[Blackmokona]

If the SAS fires at lightning speed then the rocket does not have time to lose stability.

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Quote: BlackMokona

If the SAS fires at lightning speed then the rocket does not have time to lose stability.

The missile loses stability not as a result of the triggering of the SAS And as a result of an emergency on it. Those. first the accident, then the operation of the CAC.

On the Crew Dragon test, the opposite happened - CAC triggered, then an accident. Do not you understand what?

With the same success, SAS could be tested from Earth - it would be the same.

[Blackmokona]

No, at first there was an accident, engine shutdown began. And then SAS worked, noticing changes in the propulsion system. After all, there is a delay between the start of the shutdown process and the actual shutdown. Fuel is not dematerialized in the combustion chamber from a program command.

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Quote: BlackMokona

No, at first there was an accident, engine shutdown began.

That is, the rocket has already begun the transition to passive flight. The most gentle accident mode that could have been invented.

Quote: BlackMokona

And then SAS worked, noticing changes in the propulsion system. Indeed, there is a delay between the start of the shutdown process and the actual shutdown. Fuel is not dematerialized in the combustion chamber from a program command.

Ay-ay. It would be honest if it weren’t just that the engines were turned off, and the fuel line was opened, followed by the destruction of the turbopump, from then we would see how the CAC Crew Dragon really works.

[Blackmokona]

1) No, since the engine was still fully operational when CAC, upon detecting changes in the propulsion system, decided to separate.
2) No difference would be seen. As shown by the explosion on the launch pad during a test burn of engines, as well as an accident in flight during the delivery of a cargo ship for the ISS. The payload, even with a complete explosion of the rocket, was not affected, without any CAC.
In the case of AMOS-6, the load crashed simply about a fall to Earth in a completely whole form, in the case of Dragon, the ship crashed simply on the surface of the water due to the lack of a program for this situation, and the entire drop successfully transmitted telemetry.
And in the test with the CAC test, the second stage did not explode from the explosion of the first stage and flew to the surface of the ocean.

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Quote: BlackMokona

1) No, since the engine was still fully operational when CAC, upon detecting changes in the propulsion system, decided to separate.

It worked, it didn’t work. You already decide, and that direct artificial intelligence, not otherwise.

Quote: BlackMokona

2) No difference would be seen. As shown by the explosion on the launch pad during a test burn of engines, as well as an accident in flight during the delivery of a cargo ship for the ISS. The payload, even with a complete explosion of the rocket, was not affected, without any CAC.

Exactly, what for did this САС!

Quote: BlackMokona

In the case of AMOS-6, the load crashed simply about a fall to Earth in a completely whole form, in the case of Dragon, the ship crashed simply due to the lack of a program for this situation, and the entire drop successfully transmitted telemetry.

People would definitely not be hurt! Himself is not funny?

[Blackmokona]

1) I will explain that there is a delay between the order and the action.
2) Musk did not want to do it, NASA insisted.
3) No, often people overestimate the explosions after seeing Hollywood.

Here is an example, inside this explosion, a test ship for jumping tests. Rate damage

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Quote: BlackMokona

1) I will explain that there is a delay between the order and the action.

Yes, it doesn’t matter in this case.

Quote: BlackMokona

2) Musk did not want to do it, NASA insisted.

Well so, Dr. Mengele straight.

Quote: BlackMokona

3) No, often people overestimate the explosions after seeing Hollywood.

In short, the CAS test is an explosion, and then shooting. This was just not there.

[Blackmokona]

You would tell Boeing and Lockheed. Boeing tested the CAC on the ground and completely satisfied NASA, and Lockheed jumped on a mini rocket and also completely satisfied NASA.

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Quote: BlackMokona

You would tell Boeing and Lockheed.

Oh, and there’s another song in general.

[Interlocutor]

Yes. The engine was already turned off when the capsule was disconnected.

[knn54]

US-sea money, specialists and ENTUSIASTS (not only their own) is enough. Equipment, whatever you want.
RF-money goes to no one knows where. Young people are not interested. Only pensioners are left. And "effective" managers.
Here is the result.

[orionvitt]

Quote: knn54

RF money goes unknowingly where

You might think in the states money goes wherever. Oh yes, "so that is different." Trillions are re-printed every year, and there are fewer and fewer of them.

[zwlad]

So they print and store tons of ours in apartments, save up waste paper for the future. Then they will change to smart books.

[Interlocutor]

The results are normal, we just don’t know about them. Our country does not like self-promotion.

[mark2]

But how can young people be interested in something, if they explained to me on this page today that the smartphone is the highest point in the development of civilization. Life is a success. In FIG space, in FIG Mars! .. iPhone - this is the topic!))

[Pontiffsulyvahn]

That's right, yes. The smartphone is the highest point in the development of civilization. This is a device that combines the most outstanding technical achievements of mankind, ranging from simple toys to satellite navigation systems.
This is the quintessence of human experience.

[prior]

As you call a ship, it will sail (in this case, it will fly).
Fly the Dragon ?! No, it's better on a broomstick, in the sense of a Soyuz.

[Guards turn]

May 27 can’t be launched, it must be postponed to another day. Every year on the last Wednesday of May in many countries of the world, World Multiple Sclerosis Day or World Multiple Sclerosis Day is held.

[silverwolf88]

let's see how the operation goes ... it's a complex ... a launch vehicle ... launch systems and a manned spacecraft itself ... there are always risks with space technology ... the rest will be shown by time ...
the main thing is for our crews not to participate in flights on this equipment ... and the ship must be our Union to return to the station ...

[orionvitt]

Quote: silberwolf88

and the ship to return to the station must be our Union ...

No, you yourself. And there will always be a spare Soyuz for every fireman.

[seregin-s1]

The main thing is that the rescue system works!

[Valent691_1]

And here, as it is, not everything looks syrupy https://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/148992/

[BYCHARA]

Well, let's pray for the pilots !!! For some year they have been trying to start and something farts are compressed))))

[domovoy doma_2]

Successful flight.

[BYCHARA]

Quote: domovoy doma_2

Successful flight.

Without Russians, it would be scary for them to rise into space ... Well, yourself, with a mustache, so to speak.!
Let the "White Sun of the Desert" look and the wheels of the bus get pissed off. Our cosmonauts had such a sign !!!

Well, here they are chasing puppies ..

[Interlocutor]

Who knows. Suddenly they are watching "White Sun of the Desert" on iPhones ...

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Wedmak

What about Falcon-9, which has already flown 82 times successfully into space?

NASA sponsorship, and not directly, from there the same technology, specialists, etc.
Do you seriously believe that one small company founded by a millionaire is capable of creating and launching a heavy rocket launcher in such a short time ??? Do not tell my slippers ...

LRE "Merlin" - an open cycle. Kerosene is used as fuel, liquid oxygen is an oxidizing agent.

The Merlin engine uses pin injectors. This type of nozzle was first used in NASA's Apollo program on the lunar module landing stage engine, which was one of the most critical segments of this program. The fuel components are fed through a double impeller turbo pump located on the same axis. The pump also supplies high pressure kerosene to the hydraulic control system, which is then discharged into the low pressure channel. This eliminates the need for a separate hydraulic system to control the thrust vector and guarantees its operation during the entire operation time of the Merlin LPRE.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: seregin-s1

The main thing is that the rescue system works!

The vehicle is separated from the emergency rocket by engines located in close proximity to the last stage of the launch vehicle. Their accidental launch causes an explosion of the entire system. This exacerbates the composition of the fuel and oxidizer, which is self-igniting in a pair. This has already destroyed our rocket, which destroyed a lot of staff and Marshal Nedelin. Not regular inclusion of engines of the upper stage.
Not for nothing, the rescue engines we have are on a long bar, at the top of the ship. And such a rescue system has already proven effective when the crew in which the US citizen was rescued. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_Rescue_Rescue_Range_unit_Union »

[Blackmokona]

The second stage during the test of the SAS did not explode, neither from the SAS engines, nor even from the explosion of the first stage. It flew to the surface of the ocean and only exploded there.

[75 Sergey]

what will we answer at what stage of testing the trampolines?

[Interlocutor]

what will we answer at what stage of testing the trampolines?

Actually, this is their answer to us .....

[Zeev Zeev]

The first commercial manned flight ... Elon Musk makes history.

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Quote: Zeev Zeev

The first commercial manned flight ... Elon Musk makes history.

The first commercial manned spacecraft flight will take place on the Soyuz MS-20 TPK at the end of next year. This ship is being built with money from space tourists who previously signed a contract with Space Adventure, who will fly on it as passengers.

[nobody111body]

Well, let's say they make fun of their crook mask that they are smart. Well, well, clever, cunning, treacherous, and then we climb there? the best is not in a hurry to do everything ourselves and our designers are not bad; do not chase after these Americans their democracy, more precisely, the dictatorship of a handful of oligarchs is a dead end

[Jack O'Neill]

Musk handsome! Good luck flying!

[Lord of the Sith]

Oh, and the Yankees are in a hurry, after the first test flight, they immediately launched with astronauts.

I wish good luck to people, let's see what the vaunted Mask technique is worth.

[qobnvmog]

Many people have been working on this for a long time. I wish them success.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: BlackMokona

The second stage during the test of the SAS did not explode, neither from the SAS engines, nor even from the explosion of the first stage. It flew to the surface of the ocean and only exploded there.

Important nuances.

[Charik]

Rogozin on a trampoline cried

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Quote: Charik

Rogozin on a trampoline cried

So for five years they’ve been jumping, I’m probably tired of selling tickets, I don’t have enough for my own, but they are paying more and more money - the price tag for a ticket for $ 90 million has risen.

[Engineer Schukin]

Quote: slipped

The private company "Kosmokurs" is creating a suborbital rocket for tourist launches at an altitude of 200 km, in a couple of months they are already starting the OSI of their engine. In addition, a competition has been announced for the creation of an ultralight carrier, and the same "Kosmokurs" has already announced that it will participate in it with its own project. There are other private companies that are successfully working in the Russian space industry as subcontractors.

Judging by how you have falsely described the Cosmocourse, you are either just a propagandist or you don’t have any information at all.
In fact, there is no Kosmokurs. There are only constant statements "New cosmodrome. Unprecedented prospects.", "There was no such thing in the USSR" by Pavel Pushkin and near-numbing activities.
And there is also a "workshop" of 200 squares, where they replaced the windows and painted the walls.

In general, a very remarkable story with this Cosmocourse.
At any time, if you enter the word "Kosmokurs" into Google, there will certainly be fresh "news" about them, and this has been going on for 3-4 years. Moreover, each title is more beautiful than the previous one. But in reality there is absolutely nothing, no production, no R&D, no investment.

And you must either know this, or stop once again spreading propaganda misinformation.

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Quote: Engineer Schukin

Judging by how you have falsely described the Cosmocourse, you are either just a propagandist or you don’t have any information at all.

Wow, do you own? Not a propagandist?

Quote: Engineer Schukin

In fact, there is no Kosmokurs. There are only constant statements "New cosmodrome. Unprecedented prospects.", "There was no such thing in the USSR" by Pavel Pushkin and near-numbing activities.

Really? Is it right near the bell?

Quote: Engineer Schukin

And there is also a "workshop" of 200 squares, where they replaced the windows and painted the walls.

But still there is a workshop. And 200 squares. At a private company. Those. A private rocket design firm has a 200-square workshop. This is bad?

Quote: Engineer Schukin

But in reality there is absolutely nothing, neither production, nor R&D, nor investment.

Oops So, let’s list - it has a workshop, it has equipment, a bench base has been made, rocket engine elements are being tested, coordination is being made on the choice of a launch site ... Did you miss anything? Is it like "having no investment" to contain all this? Your logic is, to say the least, lame.

Quote: Engineer Schukin

And you must either know this, or stop once again spreading propaganda misinformation.

Burns and burns from "Kosmokurs"? Those. Regarding the private company Sputniks, Azmerit, Bioprinting Solution, Galaxy group of companies, are you without any complaints?