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Yeni Safak: Russia has flown eight planes from Syria to help Haftar

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Yeni Safak: Russia has flown eight planes from Syria to help Haftar

Russia continues to openly support the Haftar Libyan National Army, supplying it with weapons. Another article on this topic was published in the Turkish edition of Yeni Safak.


The author of the article claims that after the Turkish drones destroyed “more than a dozen” of Russian air defense systems in Libya, which are in service with the LNA, Russia continued to support the “coup Haftar”, allegedly sending eight combat aircraft to help him. Aviation was relocated from the Russian base of Khmeimi in Syria and was allegedly deployed in the Al-Jufra region in the central part of the country. The aircraft are designed to strike at units of the government of national consent and the Turkish military, supporting the "legitimate government" in Tripoli.

Russia smuggled at least six Soviet-made MiG-29 fighters and two Su-24 planes to the leader of illegal armed groups in the east of the country, Khalifa Haftaru

- said the Minister of the Interior of Libya, Fathi Bashaga.

The article emphasizes that Russian aid in the form of military aircraft brought the wing of the coup Haftar "untold joy", and the commander of the LNA Air Force, Sakr al-Jarushi, immediately declared "the largest stories Libya's air campaign against Turkish targets in the country. "

Earlier, the Turkish publication claimed that over the past three days, Turkish drones in Libya “hit” fifteen Russian-made Pantsir-C1 air defense missile systems.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 May 2020 08: 02 New
    26
    Something like, in the words of the Turkish edition, by the beginning of summer they will destroy those "shells" that were installed for the air defense of Russia ... On the European part of it!
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 23 May 2020 08: 21 New
      11
      Friendship with Turkey ended before it started
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 23 May 2020 11: 31 New
        16
        I doubt very much that she was. Well, maybe with the exception of the words of journalists writing about politics for the general public.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 23 May 2020 12: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Clever man
          Friendship with Turkey ended before it started

          I always said that - from the very beginning.
          - And when Russia sold S-400 to Turkey
          Now the S-400 through Libya, if I am not mistaken, is probably being studied by the Americans. In any case, the Turks - in which case - the Americans promised it.

          - And when the Russian Federation began to build Turkey’s nuclear power plant for its money.
          By the way, in such cases with the United States built objects - factories, etc. - in foreign countries, American "investors" in practice, after their departure, they simply blow up in a sabotage manner.

          - And when the Russian Federation was building the "Turkish Stream".
          And now, according to statistics, Turkey in March reduced the volume of Russian gas supplies through the Turkish Stream and Blue Stream by 7 times. Instead of 1,5 billion cubic meters, Ankara is purchasing 210 million cubic meters, as a result of which Turkey has dropped from second place in the list of Gazprom's clients below Lithuania.
          Experts call the reason for the drop in demand a warm winter, a drop in industry due to the coronavirus epidemic, as well as RECORD purchases by Turkey of sharply cheaper LNG.

          It’s high time for Russia to understand that Turkey ALWAYS celebrates only its national interests in relation to Russia, and at any moment it thrusts a knife into the back of the Russian Federation.
          1. Abbot
            Abbot 23 May 2020 12: 15 New
            +6
            Russia continues to openly support the Haftar Libyan National Army, supplying it with weapons. Another article on this topic was published in the Turkish edition of Yeni Safak.

            Another information front of the confrontation between Russia and Turkey. Now in Libya. With what drunken joy has Hafrat been credited to our allies? Bullshit. And topwar.ru reprints this nonsense without reservation and explanation. It turns out that we help to solve the information problems of this Yeni Safak, but only in the Russian information space. Well done!
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 23 May 2020 12: 22 New
              -2
              At the same time, this is interesting!

              On the one hand, Russia transferred eight planes from Syria to help Haftar.
              And on the other hand, the US Air Force B-1B Lancer flew about fifty kilometers from the former submarine base in the Kuril Islands.
              This is very similar to coordinating the actions of NATO countries between themselves - between Turkey and the United States - against the Russian Federation on issues in Libya and Syria.
              1. Abbot
                Abbot 23 May 2020 12: 48 New
                +6
                This is very similar to the coordination between NATO actions.
                What is like coordination of actions - the transfer of aircraft from Syria to help Haftar? Are you seriously? Havtor’s army is supplied by the KSA, Egypt, the Emirates, and quite a bit, Israel. Where in this scheme of the struggle for hydrocarbons, shelves and the pipeline (Eastern Mediterranean pipeline) Russia, I would like to know.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 23 May 2020 14: 27 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Abbot
                  Are you seriously? Havtor’s army is supplied by the KSA, Egypt, the Emirates, and quite a bit, Israel.
                  Where in this scheme of the struggle for hydrocarbons, shelves and the pipeline (Eastern Mediterranean pipeline) Russia, I would like to know.

                  The Government of National Unity (PNE), which is based in the capital of Tripoli and supported by the West and the UN Security Council, has not been able to cope with terrorists for years, demonstrating complete political impotence.

                  Russia, by the way, has never officially made a choice in favor of Khalifa Haftar - unlike Egypt and the UAE, which directly support the field marshal, and Qatar and Turkey, who support the PNE.
                  At the same time, however, the same Qatar, which supports the PNE, works more for Al-Qaida representatives (it is banned in the Russian Federation).

                  Russia is trying to evenly perceive all Libyan governments, with the exception of radical groups.
                  But if we talk about military cooperation, here the choice has long been made in favor of the field marshal. This is evidenced by his frequent visits to Russia and meetings with representatives of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
                  In Russia, Haftar is considered as a person who can lead a real fight against radical terrorist groups operating on the territory of Libya. But for this, Haftar needs money, weapons, organizational support. Therefore, the Libyan field marshal in 2018 and often to Russia.



                  As for oil and gas, Libya has always been 90% or more an exporter of cheap coastal oil and LNG. The main consumer of 1/3 of Libyan production even under Gaddafi was the United States.
                  1. businessv
                    businessv 24 May 2020 19: 18 New
                    0
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    The main consumer of 1/3 of Libyan production even under Gaddafi was the United States.
                    Tatyana, please do not be offended, but you wrote so much, but it is completely incomprehensible what exactly you wanted to say Abbot in this answer to his post ?! After all, you wrote with him almost the same thing! And one more thing - you write
                    Russia is trying to evenly perceive all Libyan governments, with the exception of radical groups.
                    and then continue
                    But for this, Haftar needs money, weapons, organizational support. Therefore, the Libyan field marshal in 2018 and often to Russia.
                    So why did he frequent Russia? To be "equally perceived", or, after all, given money?
                2. Charik
                  Charik 23 May 2020 21: 54 New
                  0
                  where in Syria
            2. smart ass
              smart ass 23 May 2020 16: 05 New
              -9
              We have allies allied with terrorist dictators if you haven’t noticed.
              1. bayard
                bayard 23 May 2020 18: 02 New
                +5
                This is for you, Vasya.
                Do not confuse yourself with Russia.
                1. smart ass
                  smart ass 23 May 2020 18: 58 New
                  -6
                  What do you have? No arguments? Only translate arrows .. the level of a person is visible)
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 23 May 2020 19: 48 New
                    +6
                    Vasya, do not identify yourself with Russia.
                    If you, Vasya, are from the country of Great Ukrov, the United States of America, the British Commonwealth or the European Union, then of course - YES.
                    You are certainly right:
                    Quote: Clever man
                    We have allies allied with terrorist dictators if you haven’t noticed.

                    Sorry .
              2. D16
                D16 24 May 2020 19: 45 New
                +1
                We have allies allied with terrorist dictators if you haven’t noticed.

                To kill a maniac, you need another maniac laughing (c). But seriously, are you talking about Assad or Lukashenko?
          2. Abbot
            Abbot 23 May 2020 12: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Tatiana
            It’s high time for Russia to understand that Turkey ALWAYS celebrates only its national interests in relation to Russia, and at any moment it thrusts a knife into the back of the Russian Federation.

            What about China?
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 23 May 2020 12: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: Abbot
              What about China?

              Idem.
              In China, their Chinese national interests are also above all. And China is forced to reckon with the world hegemon so far - with the United States.
          3. Adimius38
            Adimius38 23 May 2020 12: 40 New
            -5
            Yes, Americans don’t really need the S-400 anymore, this export system may be good, but not advanced. Since we are waiting for the S-500
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 23 May 2020 12: 45 New
              -2
              Quote: Adimius38
              Yes, Americans don’t really need the S-400 anymore, this export system may be good, but not advanced. Since we are waiting for the S-500

              In technical developments, the technical counterpart is of great importance. And you can bring it to perfection with your own domestic technologies, if such craftsmen are in the country.
          4. Klingon
            Klingon 23 May 2020 17: 01 New
            +2
            Sorry girl, but what is actually secret in the S-400 export version? let them study. The Greeks have had S-300 PMUs in service for a long time, they have also been studied for a long time. Those that are in service in Russia are still slightly different in filling)) so it's a hackneyed question
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 23 May 2020 17: 19 New
              +3
              Quote: Klingon
              Sorry girl, but what is actually secret in the S-400 export version? let them study.
              You probably never worked in the military-industrial complex.

              The weapons of the enemy and allies are always studied in order to identify new secret technologies abroad and introduce them at home.
              And also when studying the enemy’s weapons, they search for weaknesses in the enemy’s new weapons and determine at the same time both possible ways of defeating them using their own weapons, and ways of moving their weapons away from interacting with them.

              These are very tactically simple adversary interests! Especially since he himself produces similar weapons and sells them to other countries.
              What is there to not understand?
              1. Klingon
                Klingon 23 May 2020 17: 21 New
                0
                I am aware, I did not understand just what does this have to do with the S-400 (not export)?
                PS I did not work in the military-industrial complex by definition, I am a veterinarian who left for human medicine, but no one has canceled the logic yet))
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 23 May 2020 17: 27 New
                  +2
                  And I worked at one time as a designer in the military-industrial complex and I have a fairly clear idea about this.
                  1. Klingon
                    Klingon 23 May 2020 17: 37 New
                    -3
                    It’s great that you worked for a while in the military-industrial complex. and by whom? secretary, payroll economist, or human resources manager in the personnel department ?? or design engineer, these are different specialties, as it were)), but you still have not answered the question. If you are still an engineer)) What will the study of the export version of S-400 give? except for exactly the same appearance and some general characteristics
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 23 May 2020 17: 56 New
                      +2
                      I wrote to you - DESIGNER in KB.
                      At our military factory there were 3 large design bureaus and small-scale experimental production. The plant conducted new scientific and technical developments for 2 years and brought them to perfection during this time - from the idea of ​​creation to launching in full-scale production.
                      Quote: Klingon
                      What will the study of the export version of S-400 give? except for exactly the same appearance and some general characteristics
                      The product can be taken apart. Make drawings on it, understand the principle of its work and technological assembly. And then implement yours for improvement. There was only an analogue on hand.
                      1. Alexey Sommer
                        Alexey Sommer 23 May 2020 19: 15 New
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Make drawings on it, understand the principle of its work and technological assembly

                        What do you want this for? Kalashnikov assault rifle or what?
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 23 May 2020 19: 31 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexey Sommer
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Make drawings on it, understand the principle of its work and technological assembly

                        What do you want this for? Kalashnikov assault rifle or what?

                        No difference! There are always units in a complex product that can be improved by new related technologies and with new materials and for new purposes and tactical and technical indicators. And thus surpass the original analogue.
                    2. dvina71
                      dvina71 24 May 2020 08: 50 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      The product can be taken apart.

                      It’s possible to disassemble .. True, unauthorized removal of blocks in such a system. Leads to their destruction .. the maximum that can be found there .. polymer-flooded, fused parts .. once the electronic unit ..
                      YES and not interested in the filling of the S-400 Americans. They need input and output radiation parameters. Naturally, in the export version, such parameters are different from those adopted by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 23 May 2020 11: 33 New
      +2
      Friendship is something else, but what happened was not even an alliance, but like this: together we walked in one direction along one street to the nearest intersection ...
      The main thing is the strategic effect of Turkey’s separation from the USA and the EU, and what will happen next - we'll see good .
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    4. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 23 May 2020 15: 46 New
      +2
      What are you speaking about. Moreover, armor and friendship destroyed here ... We sell tanks, armor and other equipment to soldiers in sneakers. They pay, waste it and ask for a new one .... Normal business in any country. Not Turks so Americans, French, Germans (who else is spinning) will destroy))))))))
  2. Maz
    Maz 23 May 2020 09: 36 New
    +1
    Already passed the information then this is a well-made Turkish fake
    1. BYCHARA
      BYCHARA 23 May 2020 09: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: Maz
      Already passed the information then this is a well-made Turkish fake

      And not only Turkish .. Haftara Russia still supports unofficially
      They are trying to squeeze Russia out, so as not to interfere with robbing!
  3. iouris
    iouris 23 May 2020 12: 42 New
    -1
    No matter how these aircraft are not affected by the attacks of Turkish UAVs.
  4. Berkut752
    Berkut752 23 May 2020 12: 59 New
    0
    Why only 15 "shells", and the remaining 8 pieces are IDE. This is the old data of 23 "shells". today is the 23rd. should add at least 7 more pieces. The "damned" media just want to belittle the Turkish military.
    I'll tell you the truth, this morning destroyed 30 "shells", 21 MiG-29 aircraft, 42 aircraft
    "Dry", And countless hordes of armored-hoofed divers.
  5. Snarkxnumx
    Snarkxnumx 23 May 2020 21: 00 New
    0
    I wonder how the planes will be secured at the airport. If round the clock Turkish UAV in the air.
  • donavi49
    donavi49 23 May 2020 08: 03 New
    -12
    The STA is about to write at the UN. For they found a foreign fighter in Ain-Zan (who were recaptured from Haftar yesterday).
    Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PNS: “We work with the relevant security agencies and judicial authorities, to investigate the case of the body of a foreign fighter, which was discovered by the government forces of the PNS, and to check all documents and evidence.
    At the end of the official investigation, we will prepare a body report for transmission to the UN Security Council
    as additional evidence of the presence of mercenaries fighting on the side of Haftar forces on the Salah ed-Din front south of Tripoli "




    Video with the calculation:
    https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1263952689618132994?s=20
    1. mark2
      mark2 23 May 2020 08: 14 New
      17
      And what do these pics and videos prove? What did the demonstration of Russian passports of Poroshenko at the time prove? Nothing!
      So you personally, why did they post it? Do you believe that it is, you are a supporter of this, that is so right? and rejoice that you have found confirmation of this.
      Or do you believe that it should not be so, that Russia is already violating all violated international rules, which is forbidden only to it, and therefore you orgasm from the fact that you have found evidence and are ready to go to the UN itself to prove it with foam at the mouth?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 23 May 2020 08: 28 New
        -1
        No, but there was really a strangeness yesterday.

        a) Before leaving, they burned almost all the equipment.
        b) A lot of min. PNS first saw so many mines. And yesterday, that was the main topic of tweets. Like in every house and mines fence. This is generally atypical for that war.




        Well, Hunguz fits in well with the picture.
        1. svp67
          svp67 23 May 2020 09: 32 New
          14
          Quote: donavi49
          Well, Hunguz fits in well with the picture.

          So what? How many of our compatriots have become "geese of war" since the collapse of the USSR. "Hunguz" is Chinese for "bandit" ...
        2. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 23 May 2020 09: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: donavi49
          Well, Hunguz fits in well with the picture.

          in which?!!!
        3. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 23 May 2020 09: 44 New
          22
          Kind Donovi. Let's start from the first. What can you buy for rubles in Libya, especially a crumpled tweet? Or just start remembering a joke about Stirlitz, a parachute and a budenovka? Have you completely forgotten about Soviet engineering and sapper engineering in your Israel? Syrian barmaley.And at the expense of foreigners, the same ukrov, the Baltic states, and the rest of the former how many wild geese fly around the world? Is there little Russian in your IDF? You don’t have to throw a fan. The photo is simply not beautiful.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 23 May 2020 11: 07 New
            +2
            Have you completely forgotten about the Soviet engineer training? Ponalyapono in the style of Syrian barmaley


            It is doubtful that they brought so many army mines. This is a really record setting. Zero VCA, only products. Crammed everywhere. The locals never bothered like that. In Libya, even throwing mines on the road, in the style of Sukhel, is the super-tactic of forgotten supercivilizations.

            The performances are quite normal:
            OZM72


            62 with collective farms.


            half a ruble


            MON90. This is in addition to what I have already posted here.


            I can’t believe that the LNA was scrambled for mining for 3-4 years, and then suddenly one quarter was bombarded with mines by the very best of my ability. Moreover, in neighboring Yarmouk and the coal island there are no mines at all. Only in this compact place are mines everywhere.
            1. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 23 May 2020 11: 36 New
              +4
              Setting on ukrovskaya looks like, semi-handicraft (blue duct tape forev). Everywhere stretch. At least our cobweb was thrown from OZM.A MON from crappy storage (here, like that, they showed me 26 more glasses that they had captured, apparently from the same warehouse). I saw how sappers quickly sealed it - the staging system was different, not an army one, tyap blunder. And due to the absence of IEDs, Gaddafi bought so much from the SVD that this would be enough for another tsz to bury, plus the Arabs are throwing in. "I'm lying, if it was open, then it's just for a fool (for photos). If it was covered with a block, then the body was just finished.
              1. Korax71
                Korax71 23 May 2020 14: 38 New
                0
                If it is not possible to put the OSM into the ground, placement on the ground is allowed. For 72, 4 wooden pegs and 2 metal pegs with holes are included. Although there is nothing to prevent it from being fixed on the ground, at least for a lamppost, and for anything. The same mine is included in the NLV- P and is equipped with an MBE-72 mine fuse, by the way it seems to be in the photo.
                1. zadorin1974
                  zadorin1974 23 May 2020 14: 54 New
                  +4
                  Conversation Alexander for another. Mina installed openly, the meaning of such an installation? Smart (trained) person will put so? It can be assumed (there is a block nearby) that it was masked by a block. In this case, when the knockout is triggered, the warhead will throw up to the top having hit the block now, there are two questions — how the fuses were installed) and whether there is enough health for the powder charge to throw the warhead along with the block. ) will it sculpt? Here in the photo the whole installation is open, even if we assume that they removed all sorts of cardboard branches, the feeling is that the playful window dress.
                  1. Korax71
                    Korax71 23 May 2020 15: 08 New
                    +1
                    He is not a supporter of conspiracy theories, they didn’t see anything like that in the Chechen Republic, and often they themselves were collective farms that you won’t see in a nightmare. It all depended on the terrain and the availability of improvised means. for a beautiful shot, they could be moved from the installation site.
                    1. zadorin1974
                      zadorin1974 23 May 2020 16: 46 New
                      +2
                      That's the whole point of Alexander, everything is somehow visual and not real. And in the plasticine country, masterpieces did. Our sapper intelligence only shook its head.
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 23 May 2020 20: 09 New
              0
              Quote: donavi49
              Have you completely forgotten about the Soviet engineer training? Ponalyapono in the style of Syrian barmaley


              It is doubtful that they brought so many army mines. This is a really record setting. Zero VCA, only products. Crammed everywhere. The locals never bothered like that. In Libya, even throwing mines on the road, in the style of Sukhel, is the super-tactic of forgotten supercivilizations.

              The performances are quite normal:
              OZM72


              62 with collective farms.


              half a ruble


              MON90. This is in addition to what I have already posted here.


              I can’t believe that the LNA was scrambled for mining for 3-4 years, and then suddenly one quarter was bombarded with mines by the very best of my ability. Moreover, in neighboring Yarmouk and the coal island there are no mines at all. Only in this compact place are mines everywhere.

              OZM is somehow funny installed. Why didn't the mines go off, I wonder? I remember the "Hunt" with MES and OZM - our bullshit does not put. drinks
          2. Evgeniy-111
            Evgeniy-111 23 May 2020 13: 16 New
            0
            And which one will go to their Libya with our money (especially dozens)? How to hand out souvenirs?
        4. Blue fox
          Blue fox 23 May 2020 11: 17 New
          +6
          Quote: donavi49
          A lot of mines. PNS first saw so many mines. And yesterday, that was the main topic of tweets. Like in every house and mines fence. This is generally atypical for that war.


          Excuse me, but the level of competence of the mineral (s), judging by the photo, is not a shame. Hence the conclusion, this is the work of non-professionals, or vice versa, professionals who know exactly how not to do it. Why do they need it, I think it’s clear.
          If the defense was held by any geese-swans without subversive training or its basics, then in that case there would be many POM-2Ps that do not require special skills during installation and, importantly, they can be taken much more than MONOK, OZMok with the same weight .
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 23 May 2020 14: 56 New
            0
            When 2p is equipped with self-liquidator, the operating time is from 4 to 100 hours and depending on temperature. At 20 degrees, the liquidation period is 23 hours. And what qualifications do you need? With the production of Mon and Ozm, a freelance squeegee of a company-platoon can cope for itself. I will not say for everyone, but our mine-disruptive business was, of course, not at the level of engineering units, but it was enough to install the mvz.
            1. Blue fox
              Blue fox 23 May 2020 17: 16 New
              +3
              If there is enough time for the engineering preparation of the position, then the installation of mine-explosive barriers is done smartly, with normal disguise (the MON-100 plate is clearly conspicuous, the mon-90 is black against a white wall and bright green is simply mounted on a block, TM- 62 for some reason on the edge, despite the fact that if it lay flat and was practically not determined by the eye, its effectiveness would practically not change, etc.) and the installation site that was most effective for hitting the enemy. If there is no time, POM-2r is enough. As for your experience, you yourself confirm that your freelance specialist installed mines, I think he coped better than in the photo, thereby we conclude that laymen were engaged in mining even close or the situation was staged for beautiful photos.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 23 May 2020 08: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: donavi49
      check all documents and evidence.

      It also seems suspicious rubles, although they have traces of walking repeat Soap taste, iron evidence. But botereyki, roulettes, knives - China. Right, go to China! angry
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 23 May 2020 09: 39 New
        +4
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        But botereyki, roulettes, knives - China. Right, go to China!

        and if you take into account the inscription "hunguz", then look for a Chinese who studied in the Russian Federation
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 23 May 2020 10: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          and if we take into account the inscription "hunguz"

          Thanks, I didn’t notice, otherwise I would joke. request alas, old age.
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 23 May 2020 11: 50 New
          +1
          Good Vladimir. If it was a Chinese, then he was a loser)))))))) wassat wassat wassat
    3. Graz
      Graz 23 May 2020 08: 17 New
      27
      why do peasants in Libya Russian rubles in the form of bills? aha ha. it’s like Poroshenko at the UN shaking Russian passports.
      and a ten-ruble note at the present time is a rare rarity in cash turnover)
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 23 May 2020 08: 32 New
        -5
        Souvenir / remainder. Well, I, too, when I go abroad, I have not only dollars / euros. There you should not even look at rubles (and not at the face), but at medicine wink . Native, domestic. At the same time, the LNA uses other kits, not Soviet ones (rather, it doesn’t use it, but rolls around in warehouses - just like in Syria, the soldiers have a bad sign of taking bandages and harnesses in place). Plus Russian tablets.
        1. IGOR GORDEEV
          IGOR GORDEEV 23 May 2020 08: 42 New
          +8
          Quote: donavi49
          Souvenir / remainder. Well, I, too, when I go abroad, I have not only dollars / euros.

          Have you compared the tour and participation in hostilities? Somehow in this logic "something" is not right))
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 23 May 2020 08: 48 New
            -5
            In the sense? Do you have any idea how this works? No one writes that it is the GRU / FSB / KGB. He was not taken from a house on the black Aurus to Il. On the road to the deployment site, go to the chip there until the plane is approved (it can be two weeks). And this if it is properly prepared. Well, there were 1300 rubles left in his pocket for example (or how many are there in the photo) by the time they were sent to the plane. What to do with them? Throw away? To drink? Hand over for safekeeping (1300 rubles)? Throw in an ATM and into the account? He just left them as a keepsake / return home. It is quite logical.

            He has no documents. Here everything is clear. The documents were handed over to the officer.
            1. zadorin1974
              zadorin1974 23 May 2020 12: 22 New
              +4
              Donovi. Well, you’re even a former one, but with a Soviet school. There are banknotes (in your opinion) but no coins. Did you hand over the documents and leave the banknotes? You won’t carry personnel through the civilian airport, I didn’t see any shops with cafes in the military .Not one cadre will write (scorch) on crap (the elder will fall in love without taking off his pants). At the expense of medicine, in 2000-2001 we had Bundesov’s first-aid kits (albeit on the verge of storage). Geese remain, as usual they don’t have a nationality .
        2. Blue fox
          Blue fox 23 May 2020 11: 11 New
          +2
          Quote: donavi49
          There you should not even look at rubles (and not at the face), but at medicine

          Let's just say that if a person joined the geese, Wagnerites, and other teams, then he knows firsthand what a coelox and hemostatic bandage is, as well as all sorts of advils and other things, not to mention turnstile tows, but here ... anyway as early as 2008, in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in combat units they knew about this and had it, although as a rule for their own money.
        3. PalBor
          PalBor 23 May 2020 11: 52 New
          +1
          As far as I remember, even the Russian authorities did not deny the possible participation of Russian PMCs in Libya. I emphasize, PMCs, that is, private companies. There are dozens of them now, for some reason they are attached to one "Wagner". Because of Prigogine? Which have nothing to do with either the Ministry of Defense or the Russian special services. Uncle went for money for the freedom of Grenada ... sorry, Libya to fight, died. What is the scandal and sensation? Dozens of Russian and Ukrainian pilots, for example, took part in the war between Ethiopia and Eritrea. So what? Did they fight under the leadership of their general staffs? You pull the owl onto the globe.
          1. PalBor
            PalBor 23 May 2020 12: 28 New
            0
            By the way, I looked at the dictionaries of the Russian language: not one of the words hunguza, only hunguza. Already strange.
            1. PalBor
              PalBor 23 May 2020 12: 50 New
              0
              And then, why did everyone get the idea that these things belong to a corpse? Five to ten years ago, some future fighter from the PNS worked as a pool cleaner in Egypt. I gathered every little thing for drunk Russian tourists: money, pills (no expiration date is visible), threads on a paper sleeve (are there any more?), Maybe it will come in handy ... It came in handy!
              1. PalBor
                PalBor 23 May 2020 12: 59 New
                +2
                AND! So not in Egypt, but in Turkey! Here are the "dozens" old.
      2. sagitch
        sagitch 23 May 2020 08: 34 New
        +8
        There are dollars on the right! True "HUNGUZ" in Cyrillic, if yes, then sorry for the guy.
      3. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 23 May 2020 09: 15 New
        +5
        Right I didn’t see ten ruble for a long time! And what for have Russian cash !?
    4. Tuzik
      Tuzik 23 May 2020 09: 05 New
      +6
      damn, where they found 10rublevka, 3 years have not seen
      1. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 23 May 2020 09: 11 New
        0
        accidentally issued a bill, I washed it as I could, stroked and removed it for memory ... two years ago ...
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 23 May 2020 09: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Tuzik
        damn, where they found 10rublevka, 3 years have not seen

        Just yesterday, they gave me such a change in a newsstand. And not shabby.
        1. Evgeniy-111
          Evgeniy-111 23 May 2020 13: 21 New
          -1
          Then another question: where and when it was all filmed? Maybe this photo is already 10 years old?
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 23 May 2020 13: 37 New
            -2
            Quote: Evgeniy-111
            Then another question: where and when it was all filmed? Maybe this photo is already 10 years old?

            It is quite possible that this is a simple cheap fake. Banknotes, cartridges, walkie-talkies ... and all that kind of crap for a photo is not a problem to find. Well, and even writing the word "hunguz" on a Chinese backpack with a felt-tip pen, for fakecomets, such as "white helmets", will not be a problem.
    5. lucul
      lucul 23 May 2020 09: 11 New
      -1
      The STA is about to write at the UN. For they found a foreign fighter in Ain-Zan (who were recaptured from Haftar yesterday).

      You, hatred of the Russians, are already sitting in the subcortex of the brain.
      It’s like a woman who will be physically happy about any setbacks of her rival.
      There is no such thing in the male mentality ...
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 23 May 2020 09: 24 New
        +3
        What hate are you talking about? If these were things of a mercenary from Europe, for example, you did not even begin to disassemble them for authenticity. And since they are attributed to the Russian, then a lie. It is not necessary to see in white, ours also do not disdain unofficial methods of pursuing a policy, only it is beneficial for the country, this is another question.
        1. lucul
          lucul 23 May 2020 09: 34 New
          +1
          What hate are you talking about? If these were things of a mercenary from Europe, for example, you did not even begin to disassemble them for authenticity.

          Well, ours did not upload photos of the dead Israeli instructors or their belongings, in Syria, in the ranks of the Syrian "opposition" ...
          Russians are not involved in savoring.
          1. ender
            ender 23 May 2020 09: 42 New
            0
            about how. photos of dead mercenaries from Alpha Centauri, you do not upload for the same reasons?
            1. lucul
              lucul 23 May 2020 09: 44 New
              -1
              about how. photos of dead mercenaries from Alpha Centauri, you do not upload for the same reasons?

              "- Do you see a gopher?
              - No .
              - And I am not, but he is. "
              1. ender
                ender 23 May 2020 09: 59 New
                -4
                Russians are not involved in savoring.


                https://rusvesna.su/news/1518161114
                https://rusvesna.su/news/1581701164
                https://rusvesna.su/news/1582883448
                1. lucul
                  lucul 23 May 2020 10: 10 New
                  +2
                  https://rusvesna.su/news/1518161114
                  https://rusvesna.su/news/1581701164
                  https://rusvesna.su/news/1582883448

                  Are you sure it's Russian? )))
                  I have any name associated with the term Rus is suspicious. This is typical for foreigners mimicking under the Russian, or foreign agents rubbed into confidence ....
          2. Deniska999
            Deniska999 23 May 2020 09: 55 New
            0
            This is our citizens, and it is logical that such news is of interest. And this is a common discussion.
          3. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 23 May 2020 11: 55 New
            0
            Quote: lucul

            Well, ours did not upload photos of the dead Israeli instructors or their belongings, in Syria, in the ranks of the Syrian "opposition" ...
            Russians are not involved in savoring.

            From Syria to Israel a couple of thousand kilometers. Therefore, instructors are required to be in the country - without this you can’t prepare fighters!
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 23 May 2020 09: 30 New
        +4
        Why? Where? If proofs appear (photo-video) - I always bring them. When the Americans crumbled, I was one of the first to comment, and then the news on the site came out.

        I do not approve of all these screams 100 UAVs were shot down, 1000 Turks were soaked, the Turkish frigate was destroyed and other levels of 15 Armor were burned, hundreds of Wagnerites were killed.

        However, when photo-video is brought up, this is the basis for analysis. wink .

        As for the fact that the white people kept the quarter, I’m sure not even according to the Hungus, but according to the number of mines (and not IEDs, but army ones). This is extremely uncharacteristic for Libya. Annual rate in one compact quarter.



        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 23 May 2020 10: 02 New
          +7
          Dear donavi49, above were the pictures with the deposited money and other allegedly foreign mercenary. Pay attention to the ten-ruble bill. I’m a resident of the Russian Federation, and then probably for at least two years offhand, I haven’t met a dozen of paper, but then they found her at a mercenary - this is doubtful. Not to mention the fact that on a "business trip" money of their country is not carried in principle, it is taboo, and they are not needed. Moreover, even tattoos with signs of origin are usually required to be removed. They carry either dollars or the currency of the host country. I’m even ready to admit that the man turned out to be gouged or it was a pity to throw out the unfortunate thousand, but a dozen of paper hurts the eye. So for me, so overdone with "proof"
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 23 May 2020 10: 59 New
            +2
            Not to mention the fact that on a "business trip" the money of their country is not carried in principle


            Well, this is not all GRU. Quite non-strict. For example, the Colombian pesos were seized from the American PMCs and the Venezuelan Guaidos who slammed Venezuela. Also in residual quantities.

            Tattoo is from the same opera. This is not a problem for a long time. Though the whole thing.

            A paper dozen is like a talisman. Residual money is just residual money. They may have waited a flight at a location for a couple of weeks or a month. To go to a chip, there I bought whitefish. For example, he poured / deposited all the grains into an ATM. And left a trifle on returning home. While they take shape, while the whole bureaucracy passes. So that you can go festive meal / celebrate the return.
            1. KVU-NSVD
              KVU-NSVD 23 May 2020 11: 13 New
              +3
              Anything can be of course - right now there are wild geese of any color like dogs and maybe control over the basic rules even has weakened, but this unfortunate dozen .. Talisman? Somehow I have little faith, and even drag such a talisman without lamination for a year in the pockets of a lump — it will turn into dust. Your will is in opinion, but I do not believe. This bag with an inscription in Cyrillic .. only Putin’s T-shirts on a bear aren’t enough ... I don’t believe in such a relaxation, people there are usually not accidental and people were passing by ... I don’t believe it.
          2. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 23 May 2020 15: 55 New
            0
            I’m a resident of the Russian Federation and I’ve probably not seen a dozen paper dozen offhand for at least a year, but here she was found by a mercenary - this is doubtful.


            Yes you what. What two years. I have not held them in my hands for about 7 years. I’ll tell you a secret, maybe more ....
            1. KVU-NSVD
              KVU-NSVD 23 May 2020 16: 11 New
              +1
              I said offhand. But long ago, for sure
    6. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 23 May 2020 09: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: donavi49
      For they found a foreign fighter in Ain Zan (who were recaptured from Haftar yesterday)

      but I don’t see a fighter, there is a bag with the Cyrillic inscription, there are Russian banknotes of various denominations, only what can this prove ???
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 23 May 2020 09: 44 New
        -1
        Well, click on the link and see - https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1263952689618132994?s=20

        Already a photo from the hospital even exists, but why post a dead warrior close-up? (although probably soon social networks will find him, according to those photos of his face, it’s quite a neural network for recognition, such as the Heartface will recognize him).
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 23 May 2020 09: 48 New
          -1
          and?!
          European face, what does this tell us?
          ohhh, he is from the USA a descendant of migrants from the USSR
          Quote: donavi49
          although it is likely that social networks will find him soon, according to those photos of the face, it’s quite neural networks for recognition, such as the Heartface will recognize him

          and if not, here you will not find me in social networks
        2. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 23 May 2020 09: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          although probably soon social networks will find him, according to those photos of the face

          cheers FOUND !!!!!
          https://yandex.ru/images/search?cbir_id=2805020%2FLk860Xmko6gzVJoWFuW6zg&cbird=5&rpt=imageview&redircnt=1590216770.1

          The nationalist who attacked a girl in Kiev on May 9 was stabbed eight times with a knife https://www.postsovet.ru/blog/ukraina/808156.html
    7. +5
      +5 23 May 2020 09: 47 New
      +2
      Don’t feed these mercenaries with bread; let them take 2 and 10 ruble bills for 50 thousand km from the homeland
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 23 May 2020 09: 48 New
        +1
        I repeat:
        He was not taken from a house on the black Aurus to Il. On the road to the deployment site, go to the chip there until the plane is approved (it can be two weeks). And this if it is properly prepared. Well, there were 1300 rubles left in his pocket for example (or how many are there in the photo) by the time they were sent to the plane. What to do with them? Throw away? To drink? Hand over for safekeeping (1300 rubles)? Throw in an ATM and into the account? He just left them as a keepsake / return home. It is quite logical.

        He has no documents. Here everything is clear. The documents were handed over to the officer.

        For Libya, by the way, his bucks are quite normal.
        1. +5
          +5 23 May 2020 09: 58 New
          +1
          Why the mercenary these pennies? I threw it all away. I'm not talking about the fact that for several years 10 ruble notes have been in circulation, no, and fifty dollars.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 23 May 2020 10: 04 New
            -3
            I mean threw it? Moreover, you contradict yourself. There are no 10 ruble notes - and throw them away ??? Yes this is a talisman / collection.

            Plus, I repeat, again, he did not immediately get home from the plane. Just - to buy something native, after these Livy and eat with nostalgic goodness. There is just money of the level - go to the chip / on the road from the place so that the krupnyak does not change.

            I repeat, I also regularly have different currencies in my wallet with small denominations, just for such purposes. It is practical and convenient.
            1. +5
              +5 23 May 2020 10: 16 New
              +4
              Obviously, the fake-makers collected the old Russian trifle in Antalya, having no idea that the 10 ruble is no longer in use or about how much it is a penny, which it makes no sense to take with you.
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 23 May 2020 11: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: 5-9
            Why the mercenary these pennies? I threw it all away. I'm not talking about the fact that for several years 10 ruble notes have been in circulation, no, and fifty dollars.

            How is it not? In the last couple of months, they gave me change two times
        2. Pivot
          Pivot 23 May 2020 10: 46 New
          +1
          And I’ll say one thing, the word Hunguz has no association with the European, maybe with Dag, Circassian, Chechen or Kalmyk to the extreme, but not Russian, so this is another stuffing and nothing more.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 23 May 2020 10: 54 New
            -1
            Well, the face is usually quite European.
            1. Pivot
              Pivot 23 May 2020 11: 08 New
              0
              Well, this just confirms the stupidity of this stuffing.
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 23 May 2020 20: 36 New
              0
              Quote: donavi49
              Well, the face is usually quite European.

              I had a young sergeant, an ethnic Uzbek, about 190 cm tall, red-haired and blue-eyed. An ordinary European face. laughing So this is not evidence, so to speak.
              1. donavi49
                donavi49 23 May 2020 21: 21 New
                -1
                The retreat of the LNA forces - today ...




                Especially on 1, everything is clearly visible. Indigenous Libyans and Sudanese. That is, the main question can be removed.
              2. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 26 May 2020 15: 11 New
                0
                This is from the mountains ....
    8. 9PA
      9PA 23 May 2020 10: 45 New
      -1
      Is it his tilight chtoli?
    9. dvina71
      dvina71 24 May 2020 08: 55 New
      0
      Quote: donavi49
      Video with the calculation:

      Lord .. curvature is what .. they can’t even print the money .. Fifty rubles in color as 500 ..
      YES and in general .. a set in a pioneer camp .. a folding knife and unused soap without packaging ...
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    11. uav80
      uav80 25 May 2020 12: 38 New
      0
      It turned out to be a certain Alexa Durich from Kosovo, who fought in the territory of the former Yugoslavia. Where did he get the rubles from and why the inscription in Russian is still not known
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  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 May 2020 08: 05 New
    0
    Russia continues to openly support the Haftar Libyan National Army, supplying it with weapons. Another article on this topic was published in the Turkish edition of Yeni Safak.
    Yes diapers, change every day. repeat
  • Masha
    Masha 23 May 2020 08: 12 New
    0
    it means that there is a desire and an opportunity to deliver "unspeakable joy" ... wink
  • rocket757
    rocket757 23 May 2020 08: 20 New
    0
    The one who wins will be right!
    In the meantime ... there will be "mouse" fuss, around the bush!
    1. BYCHARA
      BYCHARA 23 May 2020 08: 33 New
      -5
      Quote: rocket757
      The one who wins will be right!
      In the meantime ... there will be "mouse" fuss, around the bush!

      It is advisable that Haftar, otherwise this massacre will continue forever until the oil runs out in Libya ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 May 2020 08: 49 New
        +1
        Desirable Schaub won the people of LIVIA! And under what banner this will happen, it doesn’t matter.
        1. BYCHARA
          BYCHARA 23 May 2020 09: 03 New
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          Desirable Schaub won the people of LIVIA! And under what banner this will happen, it doesn’t matter.

          In our time, the opinion of the people is not particularly asked .. After all, it was the United States that established "democracy" in Libya and now it "divides and rules" there in every possible way ..
          The same Gaddafi, although he was a "tyrant", but such a social system was not in any country in the world ..
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 May 2020 09: 19 New
            +1
            It is impossible to say for sure what kind of "paradise" it was ... personally, after all, those "bananas did not eat"!
            And so, judging by the description from the media, it was not bad.
            But, someone after all decided that there is the best and it is not the enemy of the good.
        2. really
          really 23 May 2020 09: 03 New
          +4
          The people of Libya have already lost by starting a civil war.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 May 2020 09: 22 New
            0
            Quote: really
            The people of Libya have already lost by starting a civil war.

            The people, as a rule, lose ... but why did they rush to do a revolution, overthrow and destroy? Why?
            1. really
              really 23 May 2020 09: 40 New
              0
              In the Arab countries, society is built on the principle of family, clan, tribe, and only then the state, so any tribal showdown often goes beyond the threshold of war, and then, allies from other tribes are external interests.
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 23 May 2020 09: 34 New
            0
            Quote: really
            The people of Libya have already lost by starting a civil war.

            Something I doubt that the people started it
            1. really
              really 23 May 2020 09: 41 New
              -1
              He supported the war, tribal consciousness
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 23 May 2020 08: 29 New
    +3
    We have interesting relations with Turkey, "we play here, we don't play here, we wrapped the fish here" ...
    In one place, we frankly shit each other, in another place partners ...
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 23 May 2020 08: 41 New
      +1
      Unfortunately, these are modern relationships.
    2. Mouse
      Mouse 23 May 2020 09: 04 New
      +1
      politics, such politics ... still that prostitute .... laughing
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 May 2020 08: 44 New
    0
    Turkey sent G-type frigates to help Libyan PNS. They are equipped with Mk 13 and Mk 41 launchers, which are ways to destroy targets at a distance of 50 kilometers.
    1. D16
      D16 23 May 2020 09: 43 New
      +3
      First went laughing :
      Mysterious MiG-29 and Su-24 aircraft set fire to Turkish warship
      https://tehnowar.ru/151971-Tainstvennye-samolety-MiG-29-i-Su-24-podoghgli-tureckiy-boevoy-korably.html
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 23 May 2020 10: 25 New
        +1
        The Yeghitpians warned the Sultan would beat ...
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 23 May 2020 11: 13 New
          0
          The Sultan is not easy there .... F16 he can’t throw there ... and flying with air strikes from Turkey is far away .... he was lucky that the Egyptians or Algeria did not get there with aviation.
      2. Avior
        Avior 23 May 2020 11: 28 New
        0
        it seems that there they stuck the old picture, 3 months ago.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFkLffUvwY8
  • GMM
    GMM 23 May 2020 08: 44 New
    -10
    Now a crowd of people will appear, which will prove with foam at the mouth that "it will come"
    And when information passes through our central channels that "ichtamnet" is still there, then all these commentators, with a sense of accomplishment for their voluntary participation in the "cover on the Internet" operation, will gouge combat 150 grams of moonshine ...
    1. really
      really 23 May 2020 09: 05 New
      -3
      For a snack, recommend something to them. laughing
    2. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 23 May 2020 09: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: mmg
      "cover on the Internet" fighting 150 grams of moonshine are dug ...

      except for yelling about drinking in the training manual, do you have anything else? !!!
      1. GMM
        GMM 23 May 2020 10: 15 New
        -6
        Do you have anything else besides yelling about manuals? !!!
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 23 May 2020 10: 44 New
          +1
          Are you from Odessa?
          1. GMM
            GMM 23 May 2020 12: 56 New
            -4
            Do you think only residents of Odessa come to laugh with your denial of obvious things?
    3. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 23 May 2020 11: 14 New
      +1
      There are no troops .... there is probably an adviser.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 23 May 2020 08: 52 New
    +1
    Tsar Peter said, don’t believe the Turk! They destroyed 15 pan-prisoners! What kind of tortoiseshell? ?? fool Turks are strong to lie, even the Uk-rollers have been misinterpreted belay
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 May 2020 09: 04 New
      0
      Well, here I calculated how much with the photo-video. From that moment, no new shells were destroyed (with video or photo).

      https://topwar.ru/171469-yeni-afak-tureckie-bpla-v-livii-unichtozhili-shest-zrpk-pancir-s1.html#comment-id-10442284
      7 came out with the fixation of a hit + 1 in doubt (something was under the canopy and vigorously exploded, but it could not be the Shell, but Toyota with ammunition, or just boxes of ammunition).
  • gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 23 May 2020 08: 52 New
    +1
    This is elegant, in the eastern way, neither one nor anyone is completely friend and foe. But even when you cut the throat of the enemy, you need to do this with a smile and respect and the Turks have nothing to offend, we, like them, are the heirs of the Byzantine Empire.
    1. really
      really 23 May 2020 09: 43 New
      0
      They even occupied their house
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 23 May 2020 09: 01 New
    0
    after Turkish drones destroyed "more than a dozen" Russian air defense systems in Libya,
    Yesterday it was like only 6?
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 23 May 2020 09: 05 New
    -3
    Quote: mmg
    Now a crowd of people will appear, which will prove with foam at the mouth that "it will come"

    and why prove that if we really are not there, we are all here, or here, and there we are not 100%. Yes, and what or who is HUNKUZ?
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 23 May 2020 09: 12 New
    +2
    Oh already fifteen !!!!!! Rates are rising !!!
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 23 May 2020 09: 22 New
    -1
    The Libyan issue should have been resolved in the year 11. And now it’s silly to climb into this garbage dump, after the discharge of Gaddafi. You can’t imagine a stupider. The kidneys have fallen off
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 23 May 2020 11: 16 New
      +1
      Moreover, the situation there was simpler than the Syrian one.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 23 May 2020 09: 26 New
    0
    If Russia surpassed the planes, then an air defense system should be built on the base. They are still silent about her, only about the rout of the shell on every corner is heard
  • akims
    akims 23 May 2020 09: 30 New
    0
    "hit" fifteen Pantsir-S1 air defense missile systems
    Reminded: there were three of them. I beat five of them at once ...
  • +5
    +5 23 May 2020 09: 45 New
    +1
    OOO ... "destroyed" air defense systems are not even 6, but more than a dozen? And Russian too?
    Turkish newspaper discovered drug addiction world ukro-media? Soon, this will be added to the armored divers ...
  • donavi49
    donavi49 23 May 2020 09: 53 New
    +2
    By the way - yesterday 1x1.

    TV2 shot down:


    And WingLong shot down (wing with a winglet)


  • Guru
    Guru 23 May 2020 10: 23 New
    -1
    Well, Russia doesn’t have to do this (transfer the air wing), Syria can do it. And we’ll throw Syria again, and newer.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 23 May 2020 10: 58 New
    +2
    Rzhu nimagu))) yesterday was 6, today it is already 15. As Ostap Ibrahimovich used to say, since his dad was a Turkish citizen, "more cynicism - people like it." I would like to wish Turkish science fiction writers - do not hesitate, write 100, why should you feel sorry for their foes?
  • Evgeniy-111
    Evgeniy-111 23 May 2020 13: 10 New
    0
    Does Russia use the MiG-29 in Syria?
    1. Guru
      Guru 23 May 2020 22: 10 New
      +1
      I don’t remember the Russian MIG-29s in Syria, but the Syrians have them. In addition, Assad officially helps Haftaru. So most likely the Syrian, of course, with our permission.
  • nobody111body
    nobody111body 23 May 2020 16: 39 New
    0
    the nationalization of Libyan oil is what a handful of American Jews fear most of all - then there will be nothing to plunder; therefore it does not matter what the name of the one who is "for or against"
  • Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 23 May 2020 19: 54 New
    +2
    Before helping Haftar, you need a 100% guarantee that he does not cooperate with the Americans. Generally speaking, Americans are suspiciously silent when it comes to Libya. Most likely they decided to play it safe and try to maintain neutral relations with both parties to the conflict.

    In general, first you need to first remove Haftar from the geopolitical orbit of the United States. Ideally, if the Turks oust Haftar, he should be scared and seek support from the Americans. In the event that they refuse and Haftar ceases to trust them, Russia will be able to take the side of the LNA, but not earlier. Haftar must really get scared first ...

    From a humanitarian point of view, Haftar’s victory looks much better, because he has the opportunity to very quickly slam the PNE and thereby end this positional massacre and the civil war in general. The only problem is the legitimacy of the Haftar authorities from the point of view of international law, but again, in the face of the inevitable defeat, the PNE can accept Haftar’s recognition. Through the mediation of Russia, for example ...

    The main thing is that the Americans first show their true face ...
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 23 May 2020 22: 35 New
    0
    a question to all of you: whom the UN and Russia support ?!
    1. Connor MacLeod
      Connor MacLeod 23 May 2020 22: 59 New
      -1
      Based on humanitarian considerations, it is necessary to support the strongest of the parties to the conflict, which will be able to end the civil war as soon as possible. In this particular case, this is the PNA. It is terrible to imagine what will happen if now a fiery tornado of a civil war unfolds and goes to the East. In Syria, it was easier because there the strongest grouping in the conflict was the legitimate government of Assad. In Libya, the situation is more complicated. Therefore, among other things, it will be necessary to seek recognition of the Haftar government.
  • businessv
    businessv 24 May 2020 19: 07 New
    0
    over the past three days, Turkish drones in Libya have "hit" fifteen Russian-made Pantsir-C1 air defense missile systems.
    Interestingly, those who write this, believe in themselves?
  • Natalia Sorokina
    Natalia Sorokina 26 May 2020 08: 37 New
    0
    Games in vanity ... Stupidity is always expensive.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 26 May 2020 15: 12 New
    0
    They wrote that the Russian Defense Ministry said they had flown planes to Libya