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The party of self-propelled guns "Coalition-SV" entered service with the Ground Forces

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The party of self-propelled guns "Coalition-SV" entered service with the Ground Forces

The party of the latest self-propelled howitzers "Coalition-SV" entered service with the Russian Army. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.


According to the report, a batch of 152 mm self-propelled artillery guns "Coalition-SV" entered service with the Ground Forces as part of a state defense order. The quantity of equipment delivered and other delivery details are not given. Most likely, an experimental batch of the latest self-propelled artillery units was delivered to the troops, the manufacture of which and readiness for delivery at the end of last year were reported by the UVZ press service.

Recall that the 152-mm howitzer 2С35 "Coalition-SV" was first officially presented in Moscow at the Victory Day parade on May 9, 2015.

Earlier it was reported that the state tests of self-propelled guns "Coalition-SV" should end in 2022, and the timing of serial deliveries to the troops has not yet been determined, the Ministry of Defense will deal with this issue in the future based on the results of the tests.

The 152 mm 2C35 Coalition-SV self-propelled howitzer is designed to destroy command posts, communications centers, artillery and mortar batteries, and armored vehicles, including tanks, anti-tank weapons, air defense and missile defense systems, as well as manpower of a potential enemy. The shooting of the latest SAO is more automated and computerized, the howitzer can operate in the “Flurry of Fire” mode, in which several shells fired from the gun from different angles simultaneously reach the target.

The basis of firepower is a 2 mm 88A152 gun with a firing speed of more than 10 rounds per minute, which is higher than the firing speed of other artillery systems.

It is expected that separate artillery brigades will be equipped with the Coalition-SV.
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  1. Voltsky
    Voltsky 22 May 2020 15: 35 New
    13
    good bibika
    1. parkello
      parkello 22 May 2020 15: 40 New
      +1
      I am glad that deliveries have already begun. and the experimental batch was before, at the parade, this is no longer experimental ... I wonder how they solved the issue with new ammunition. as far as I remember, the plant and machine tools for new shells were in Ukraine. recourse By the way, they stayed there after 2014 ...
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 22 May 2020 15: 47 New
        -37
        Well, what do you think ?! Any establishment of a new technological process is a lot of money that can be mastered, and so not a lot will stick to your hands, of course, to the most worthy ones. So that is either ready, or already in the process; do not be afraid and be afraid
        1. parkello
          parkello 22 May 2020 15: 54 New
          +3
          Yes, I’m so calm ... why should I calm down? I just remember how someone maliciously wrote to me about machine tools and shells. so I remembered. and what’s there to whose hands it sticks to me at all with a hair dryer. but since they launched a small series, it means they were already able to somehow arrange the release. Well, then let them continue to supply. new equipment needed in the army. Msta C, of ​​course, is also not bad. But the Coalition NE is still newer and more perfect Msta. By the way, it can shoot with old shells. so anyway good. and yes. by the way. the word you write with a capital letter, and with a small one it is when accessing the set. and since I am alone ... well, in short, and you do not get sick. yes
          1. Voltsky
            Voltsky 22 May 2020 16: 05 New
            -14
            I generally write in transliteration, and as they say, well, at least I put the commas where necessary :)
            The system is new, there is nothing particularly revolutionary in it by modern standards (if only the reliability tends to 0), but the technology is in demand and sincerely necessary. And you more "all is lost" listen; these people usually work poorly themselves, are sincerely surprised by the fact that others are doing poorly, and say that the country is shit; Well, let's leave it on their conscience: it's like women, all men, though I'm not in 5 minutes bl ** s, I mean, damn it :) I would attribute this to the Fermi paradox, but astrophysicists will forgive me :)
            1. parkello
              parkello 22 May 2020 16: 10 New
              +2
              yes I am not listening "everything is lost" request I don’t have a TV either .. for about 20 years probably. I don’t know who works there badly. They don’t interest me at all. You confuse me with someone most likely. I can’t say anything about translit .. I have never used it, although I do not live in Russia. oh well, we'll meet again i think on this site. once clashed once. so good luck to you, and health to those close to you. hi
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 22 May 2020 17: 28 New
                +8
                . as far as I remember, the plant and machine tools for new shells were in Ukraine.

                Are you sure? As far as I remember, Rosatom took part in the development of new shells. Ukraine in these latest technologies was not near IMHO. hi
                1. parkello
                  parkello 22 May 2020 17: 31 New
                  0
                  sure yes and stood next and the first orders for Ukraine went. because of this, the whole story with the Coalition dragged on. now it is free Donbass. Ukraine has never been. but this does not change the essence.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 22 May 2020 17: 32 New
                    0
                    Not expected. I’ll clarify. smile
                    The EMNIP organization of the production of 152/155 mm shells several years ago led to a holiday with the participation of Poroshenko ... There were such stocks that production was not necessary. hi
                    1. parkello
                      parkello 22 May 2020 17: 33 New
                      0
                      God help wink (this is not irony)
              2. Voltsky
                Voltsky 22 May 2020 18: 05 New
                -1
                Quote: parkello
                oh well, we'll meet again i think on this site. once clashed once. so good luck to you, and health to those close to you.

                oh and the same for you :) True, it really didn’t work out a lot :) but there was no reason, it’s nice to see adequate, well, or good debaters
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            2. D16
              D16 22 May 2020 16: 15 New
              11
              there is nothing special about it by modern standards

              Microwave ignition, modular propelling charge and barrel cooling system have at least never been used in our country. And not only with us.
              1. Voltsky
                Voltsky 22 May 2020 16: 17 New
                -8
                Well, technology 80, then it was expensive and no reason :) And now it is already, and not expensive, and as it were.
                In the Navy, similar cooling systems were practiced.
                1. D16
                  D16 22 May 2020 18: 35 New
                  +5
                  Well, technology 80, then it was expensive and there was no need

                  Americans in their promising self-propelled guns tried to use a laser beam to ignite modular charges. I have not heard about the microwave.
                  In the Navy, similar cooling systems were practiced.

                  The fleet has too much sea water to bother with similar sistams.
                  1. Voltsky
                    Voltsky 22 May 2020 19: 00 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    similar systems

                    there is nothing special to add, for we always go in the simplest way.
                    Entertaining Physics / Chemistry is like an old book :) but apparently I advise you to get acquainted
                    1. D16
                      D16 22 May 2020 19: 05 New
                      +2
                      we always go the simplest way

                      And thank God. Usually it turns out more reliable and cheaper.
                      1. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 22 May 2020 19: 10 New
                        -5
                        Sorry, here my opus does not concern you :) But unfortunately people do not know what shoulder and lever are .... And for them my words are heresy :)
                        Well, I here judged the cons :)
                        So sadness and longing
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                    1. D16
                      D16 22 May 2020 20: 02 New
                      0
                      Do you think in powder charges forget spoons? laughing
                      1. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 22 May 2020 22: 36 New
                        -3
                        no :) I think that people did not know and realized a simple truth-logic
              2. Lopatov
                Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 39 New
                10
                Quote: D16
                at least we never used a barrel cooling system

                "Vienna" 2C31
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 22 May 2020 17: 42 New
                  -15
                  Monsieur Lopatov :) to whom you explain, here the bulk are either Urya-Urya or all-props :) critical thinking is not a priori characteristic of them :)
                  1. VO3A
                    VO3A 23 May 2020 00: 27 New
                    -4
                    Why do we need a "Coalition" at all? Nobody writes about this in the article or in any comments !!! To work in real time in systems like the EU, TK "Constellation-M" ... The latter is buried in the bud .... despite the fact that this is the president's program with a deadline for completion in 2020 .... I will say more, for lovers of shock UAVs, it, as part of the EU TZ, could completely replace them within its radius of action, and "Tornado-S" and "Tornado-U" could replace shock UAVs within its radius of action .... This is a New Weapon for conducting modern war ... Alas, it is not in demand, because we do not have systems for this ... Reconnaissance and target designation systems in real time are replaced with systems for controlling our troops and transmitting orders to them in real time ... It is not clear how will the latter help to wage modern warfare? They can, if the corpses of the scouts will be provided for the fighting ... For this they are preparing our army, they are preparing to fight in the old way in the New Information War ...
                2. D16
                  D16 22 May 2020 18: 27 New
                  0
                  "Vienna" 2C31

                  Did not know. The declared rate of vein of Vienna, as it were, hints that there should be something similar, but I found nothing but a forced blowdown of the barrel. And this is a completely different thing. Don’t share the link? winked
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 22 May 2020 18: 35 New
                    +5
                    Quote: D16
                    Don’t share the link?

                    http://btvt.narod.ru/4/vena.htm
                    http://mz.perm.ru/products/23/534/
              3. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 18: 28 New
                0
                Quote: D16

                Microwave ignition, modular propelling charge and barrel cooling system have at least never been used in our country. And not only with us.

                I beg your pardon, about "barrel cooling" is that for sure?
                And then "10 rounds per minute" inevitably prompted the idea of ​​heating the barrel. How long will it last at this rate of fire without forced cooling.
                And then the photo of such cooling is invisible. What is the principle of cooling?
                1. D16
                  D16 22 May 2020 19: 00 New
                  +5
                  What is the principle of cooling?

                  A NNP is injected into the chamber between shots with a water-alcohol mixture and blown through the barrel by a blowing system. True, as it turned out, this system was being worked out back in the late 80s on the "Vienna".
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 19: 05 New
                    +1
                    Quote: D16

                    A NNP is injected into the chamber between shots with a water-alcohol mixture and blown through the barrel by a blowing system. True, as it turned out, this system was being worked out back in the late 80s on the "Vienna".

                    Thank you. hi
                  2. Uncle Izya
                    Uncle Izya 22 May 2020 19: 12 New
                    +1
                    And the calculation of this alcohol mixture does not use?
                    1. D16
                      D16 22 May 2020 19: 13 New
                      +4
                      It depends on what color it is. laughing .
                    2. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 22 May 2020 19: 58 New
                      +7
                      Quote: Uncle Izya
                      And the calculation of this alcohol mixture does not use?

                      No, they are aware that not everything smelling of alcohol can be drunk.

                      And who didn’t know, some POZH-70 had long choked on and left for home in a zinc box.
                  3. Bad_gr
                    Bad_gr 23 May 2020 02: 11 New
                    +2
                    Quote: D16
                    water-alcohol mixture is injected into the chamber between shots and blown through the barrel by a purge system.

                    That is, after firing from the gun will not pull gunpowder, but a fume?
                    winked
          2. Kathernik
            Kathernik 22 May 2020 18: 09 New
            +3
            According to the rules of the Russian language, with the capital letter “You” (as well as “You”, “Your”, “Your”, etc.) it is written when you address only one person and use the plural form of respect. If there are more than one recipients, you need a lowercase letter. At the same time, writing “you” with a lowercase when referring to one person is also not an error, since the plural in itself shows your respectful attitude.

            There are no capital letters in the word “in your opinion” - it is wrong to write “in your way”.

            Thus, according to the rules, with a capital “You” should be written in those texts where there is a specific addressee. In such cases, there is often a direct appeal: for example, “Dear Ivan Ivanovich! Let me introduce you ... ”

            In mass mailings starting with the words “Dear friends / partners / colleagues!”, Or when referring to any other group of people, “you” should be written with a small letter. The same applies to a personal appeal to several people - “Dear Ivan Ivanovich and Petr Petrovich! Glad to welcome you ... "," Ilya and Maria! Congratulations on your wedding! ”

            Based on this, we get that in the vast majority of cases in the texts on websites it is worth writing "You" not with a capital letter, but with a lowercase letter. If we are talking about a standard text, most likely you will be contacting a whole group of people - the entire audience or part of it. A capital letter is appropriate if, for example, you write a public congratulation to someone - a user or a partner (a specific person).

            In practice, many adhere to the point of view that “you” with a capital letter is a polite spelling, and with a small letter it is impolite, therefore they always write “you” - including in mass mailings and other “multi-personal” calls. From the point of view of the Russian language, this is wrong. It is possible to oppose the logic of “polite - impolite” only with the fact that it is unlikely that someone who sees what is written with a lowercase letter “you” will be offended to the core and decide that they do not respect him in this company. But those who are familiar with the rules, stuck to the place and out of place “You” will hurt the eye. Hand on heart, we note that it is unlikely that this will scare away potential customers, but a competent and beautiful text has more chances to attract readers to you.

            In conclusion, we note that also “You”, written with a capital letter, will be appropriate in the questionnaires. According to the rules of drafting documents and according to tradition, “You” is written here, even though there is no specific address and more than one person will read and fill out the questionnaire.
      2. avg
        avg 22 May 2020 16: 08 New
        +7
        Quote: parkello
        as far as I remember, the plant and machine tools for new shells were in Ukraine

        The design bureau is exactly in Tula, but the manufacturers, in my opinion, are in Tula and in Moscow.
        A self-propelled guns should be sent closer to Rostov, so that from Svidomo screech in social networks, your ears are blocked.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 22 May 2020 17: 39 New
          +1
          And self-propelled guns must be sent closer to Rostov,

          I wanted to write about the same. Apparently that's why they accelerated with deliveries.
          These lovers of unrequited fire do not understand differently. hi
      3. Albert1988
        Albert1988 22 May 2020 16: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: parkello
        .interesting how to solve the issue with new ammunition. as far as I remember, the plant and machine tools for new shells were in Ukraine. By the way, they stayed there after 2014 ...

        Most likely, after 2014, no one was oriented to Ukraine and began to establish with us. In any case, such information is unlikely to be released immediately.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 22 May 2020 16: 32 New
          +3
          In my opinion, before and after 2014, no one was guided by it. And God bless her. Interesting information on the development of new shells.
          As it became known, Russian industry is working to create promising ultra-long-range artillery systems. Their basis will be the latest 2S35 Coalition-SV self-propelled gun, and the required characteristics will be provided with special shells. According to the domestic press, new types of ammunition will be able to hit targets at ranges of more than 100 km.


          It is alleged that the industry is developing several shells of extended range with different features. While it is a question of design work, but soon it is planned to conduct the first tests of experimental products.

          New shells are carried out in caliber 152 mm, which will allow them to be used together with modern artillery pieces. They will be able to use promising self-propelled guns 2S35 “Coalition-SV”, serial self-propelled guns 2S19 “Msta-S” and towed guns 2A65 “Msta-B”. It is alleged that due to such ammunition the firing range will be increased to 100 km or more.

          https://topwar.ru/168730-100-km-i-bolee-dlja-rossijskih-sau-sozdajutsja-novye-snarjady.html
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 22 May 2020 19: 08 New
            0
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            https://topwar.ru/168730-100-km-i-bolee-dlja-rossijskih-sau-sozdajutsja-novye-snarjady.html

            By the way, an interesting fact is a quote from the article you quoted:
            "One of the projects of the ultra-long-range shot provides for the creation of a telescopic ammunition with a ramjet engine."
            And now we recall the recently published Damantsev's cry about a similar product in the USA ...
      4. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 16 New
        11
        Quote: parkello
        factory and machine tools for new shells was in Ukraine.

        ??
        You are very confusing something
        1. parkello
          parkello 22 May 2020 16: 27 New
          0
          I never confuse ... when the production cycle was launched, then Ukraine was still a union state. therefore, the first shells for the Coalition were manufactured there. yes and now, since it has gone into production, it is likely that we have purchased exactly the same machines for ourselves. I have been talking to guys from this field for a long time. there was a portal-forum of the Pereyaslav Rada. the owners are Russian emigrants in the USA. I remember how one "puppet" made his way there ... he wrote to me. Where on what machines are new shells grinded. but many years have passed. and now, perhaps, we have established production at home.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 31 New
            10
            Quote: parkello
            when the production cycle was launched, then Ukraine was still a union state
            Precisely because they are trying with great creak to launch shell production?

            In the Urals, it was all riveted. Vysokogorsk mechanical plant collapsed, now Serovsky will rivet
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 22 May 2020 17: 47 New
            0
            I read what you write. I am sure that the Coalition was confused with a different attitude.
            I am familiar with those who participated in the development.
            The truth has not been seen for a long time. The problems there were not in Ukraine.
            And also "puppies" dug the Black Sea ... hi
      5. KCA
        KCA 22 May 2020 16: 33 New
        0
        It was in Ukraine, and now it is in Donbass, although they wrote that the military is restoring the production of 152mm shells, but I think that for the "Coalition" there are slightly different shells than for the "Hyacinth"
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 22 May 2020 16: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: KCA
          that for the "Coalition" there are slightly different shells than for the "Hyacinth"

          There are very different shells ...
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 22 May 2020 17: 43 New
          +2
          I think that for "Coalition" there are slightly different shells than for "Hyacinth"

          Instead of gunpowder - liquid propellant.
          And there is no capsule. And you can not set fire to the entire charge.
          In short - nothing in common. hi
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 22 May 2020 19: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Alex777
            And you can not set fire to the entire charge.

            Do you mean the case of fire in the ammunition?
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 22 May 2020 19: 54 New
              +1
              I mean different firing ranges depending on the power of the charge.
              It would be right to write not to set fire, but to initiate. bully
              The variable charge provides a "flurry of fire". hi
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 22 May 2020 22: 12 New
                0
                Quote: Alex777
                I mean different firing ranges depending on the power of the charge.
                It would be right to write not to set fire, but to initiate.
                The variable charge provides a "flurry of fire".

                I understand you! Did it seem like they meant electrochemical detonation initiation?
      6. 210ox
        210ox 22 May 2020 18: 01 New
        +1
        Where? They themselves were sitting on old stockpiles of shells. Last year there seemed to have surrendered their production.
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 22 May 2020 19: 06 New
          0
          Quote: 210ox
          Last year there seems to have passed their production.

          At the same time, abandoning all the old GOSTs for the quality and safety of ammunition ... There are even very serious suspicions that most of the production comes down to scraping rust from old shells coming from Eastern Europe ...
      7. g1v2
        g1v2 22 May 2020 21: 07 New
        +3
        Most likely there will be a couple more years of trial operation in the troops to identify all the jambs and bases.
      8. Ascetic
        Ascetic 22 May 2020 21: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: parkello
        as far as I remember, the plant and machine tools for new shells were in Ukraine

        Paladin American for sale Ukraine shells supplier ...
      9. venik
        venik 22 May 2020 21: 23 New
        0
        Quote: parkello
        I wonder how they solved the issue with new ammunition. as far as I remember, the plant and machine tools for new shells were in Ukraine. recourse by the way there and stayed after 2014 ...

        =======
        Well, somehow, probably decided to!
    2. Alexey LK
      Alexey LK 26 May 2020 04: 41 New
      0
      Rather, a dubik! wink
  2. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 22 May 2020 15: 46 New
    +1
    The quantity of equipment delivered and other delivery details are not given.

    But I don’t need the details! The main thing is to announce such news more often.
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 22 May 2020 15: 53 New
      -3
      You are not in the process of war, and so far with the updated system of deterrence, you can not especially panic and systematically approach the issue, gradually updating the tractor fleet. The fact is that the location of the Russian Federation does not favor a patriotic attitude among citizens and officials; but here from childhood it is necessary to learn.
  3. Yrec
    Yrec 22 May 2020 16: 00 New
    +2
    Well, a serious step for the MO is a gun there with electric ignition and a variable propellant charge. The technological breakthrough is solid. The crew of self-propelled guns will have to recruit people with good brains.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 09 New
      +6
      2C19 no less difficult
      1. svp67
        svp67 22 May 2020 16: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Spade
        2C19 no less difficult

        But the "Coalition" will be more complicated. The presence of radars is worth something ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 21 New
          10
          Quote: svp67
          The presence of radars is only worth it ...

          I put a hundred against a penny that it will be easier to work with it than with a Soviet ballistic station


          laughing
          1. svp67
            svp67 22 May 2020 16: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            I put a hundred against a penny that it will be easier to work with it than with a Soviet ballistic station

            I bet the same that at the time of the operation of this station it will be unsafe in front, especially for manhood ... with a ballistic station, this was definitely not
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 27 New
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              I bet the same that at the time of the operation of this station it will be unsafe in front, especially for manhood ... with a ballistic station, this was definitely not

              ?
              Well, you could try ....
              In general, this is a radar speed determinant. laughing
              1. svp67
                svp67 22 May 2020 16: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Well, you could try ....

                I do not advise. Passed, something similar with a radio command system on tanks ...
                Quote: Spade
                In general, this is a radar speed determinant.

                So I think that it’s a little more complicated ... the direction of flight, and accordingly the deviation using these systems, can be considered the same
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: svp67
                  So I think it's a little more complicated ...

                  It’s much more complicated, because you have to count yourself.
            2. ultra
              ultra 22 May 2020 17: 05 New
              0
              Quote: svp67
              I put the same amount that at the time of the operation of this station it will be unsafe in front, especially for manhood

              You eat microwave-preheated food, doesn’t it scare you?
              1. svp67
                svp67 22 May 2020 17: 09 New
                0
                The locator and microwave, although they use similar physical principles, are made differently in terms of protection ...
                1. ultra
                  ultra 23 May 2020 11: 13 New
                  0
                  I'm talking about the effect of "microwaves", they heat everything that contains water and do not affect the "dignity" in any way.
  4. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 22 May 2020 16: 02 New
    0
    By barmaley it is necessary.
    1. Pug
      Pug 22 May 2020 16: 13 New
      -3
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      By barmaley it is necessary.

      On barmaley. Just experienced! Now they will guard Russia at the borders!
  5. faterdom
    faterdom 22 May 2020 16: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Yrec
    Well, a serious step for the MO is a gun there with electric ignition and a variable propellant charge. The technological breakthrough is solid. The crew of self-propelled guns will have to recruit people with good brains.

    Well, on the other hand, it’s not enough for subscribers on the other end. Such a division will blow, even if not with the maximum rate of fire - those who didn’t hide there will no longer hide. And then - it will leave into the distance, until the answer arrives.
    Maybe for the whole life of such a product it will be his royal two minutes, but they will be worth it: the production of such a device, and the selection and training of the crew.
  6. Lopatov
    Lopatov 22 May 2020 16: 25 New
    +3
    howitzer can operate in "Flurry of Fire" mode

    laughing
    These are his words:

    And the Discovery Channel

    And we call this mode "pseudo-salvo"
  7. Old tanker
    Old tanker 22 May 2020 16: 32 New
    +1
    Great news! Glavnre so that this does not end there.
  8. NEXUS
    NEXUS 22 May 2020 17: 31 New
    0
    So soon Armata with the T-15 will go in series to the troops, once the Coalition is finished. Let's see how the dynamics of orders of new platforms for the troops will develop.
    1. parkello
      parkello 22 May 2020 17: 36 New
      0
      from your lips. yes to God’s ears. Andrew winked
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 22 May 2020 17: 45 New
      +1
      NEXUS, no, not soon T14 and T15 will go to the troops, because some significant problems, alas, have not yet been completely resolved. ..
      1. Artemiy_2
        Artemiy_2 22 May 2020 19: 19 New
        0
        and what kind of problems are these?
  9. Tektor
    Tektor 22 May 2020 17: 35 New
    0
    But this is serious! Finally, our god of war will have an advantage. The necessary things went to the troops.
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 May 2020 17: 50 New
    0
    Good support to our gunners for fear of enemies.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 22 May 2020 18: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      Good support to our gunners for fear of enemies.

      Most likely, this new self-propelled gun, due to the caliber and various types of shells, will lead to a change in the ratio of tanks and artillery in motorized infantry formations and associations, because its capabilities are much greater, and we will no longer have new tank battles. And most importantly - not only Americans are thinking about the use of tactical nuclear weapons in the future, which is why the advantages of self-propelled guns in this regard are obvious to everyone.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 22 May 2020 18: 56 New
        +3
        No tactical nuclear weapons will be used. Putin made clear the stripes, immediately an answer will fly across the ocean of various systems and the stripes will cease to exist. And they know this very well, and therefore rage. We will not fight in Europe with NATO, a decision center will be struck immediately and that’s it.
        1. +5
          +5 23 May 2020 09: 28 New
          -1
          Come on ... on what thread Palyak provocation "the whole world in dust" to arrange?
          Do we have in vain chtol nuclear weapons 10 times more than the rest of the world combined? Wasted money for decades?
        2. ccsr
          ccsr 23 May 2020 10: 22 New
          0
          Quote: Ros 56
          No tactical nuclear weapons will be used.

          Americans don’t think so.
          The Pentagon recently sent President Trump a draft new US nuclear strategy for approval. In the case of presidential good, US nuclear weapons will also be used in the course of an attack on the United States by non-nuclear means of the enemy that can destroy the American infrastructure. We are talking about the so-called cyber attacks ... The Pentagon project provides for the creation of a new generation of small nuclear bombs. However, their creation was begun under Obama. Some experts warn that these small nuclear shells can erase the difference between nuclear and non-nuclear weapons. Therefore, their use can be very tempting.

          Quote: Ros 56
          Putin made it clear striped, immediately otvetka fly overseas

          Tactical nuclear weapons will not be used against the United States - this is not discussed at all, if only because the strategic nuclear forces will be used. We are talking about local conflicts, and they can just be used nuclear charges of low power.
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          . We will not fight in Europe with NATO,

          The Americans will not even ask where it will be more convenient for them to attack us in the event of a nuclear war, especially since their dream of pulling as many nuclear weapons as possible to our borders will be the main thing in their planning - this is what we and the Pershing passed in Europe.
          In general, this question must be considered on a different plane - whether we have the will to use tactical nuclear weapons in the same Syria, if suddenly our bases are threatened with the real destruction of all who are there. It is possible that Syria is not the last region where our troops provide assistance outside the country, which is why in the future we will also have to change the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons.
  11. Kirill Petrov_2
    Kirill Petrov_2 23 May 2020 02: 10 New
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    Another piece of production suitable for public relations and only ....
  12. GRANATE-19
    GRANATE-19 23 May 2020 08: 14 New
    +1
    Or maybe a bang !?
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 23 May 2020 15: 07 New
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      Or maybe a better drink, it will be more fun. drinks laughing good
  13. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 23 May 2020 18: 13 New
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    Oh and fierce child prodigy, good luck, as they say!
  14. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 24 May 2020 09: 26 New
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    And is there information, having realized a crew of 2-3 people and shooting along different trajectories on the same target (fire raid)?