Erdogan decided to recall the anniversary of the "expulsion of the Circassians from Tsarist Russia"


The President of Turkey made a statement regarding the Circassian ethnic group. According to Erdogan, he "does not remain indifferent to what the Circassians experienced 156 years ago." The Turkish president decided to share his "indifference" on his pages on social networks.


In particular, on a Twitter page, Recep Tayyip Erdogan writes:

"I share the pain of our Circassian brothers, who faced exile from their homeland 156 years ago."

According to the Turkish president, "he wishes the grace of God" for those representatives of the Circassian people who died during the "expulsion from the Caucasus."

Erdogan said that in the XNUMXth century the Circassians "were expelled by tsarist Russia from the places where they lived for centuries."

Erdogan decided to recall the anniversary of the "expulsion of the Circassians from Tsarist Russia"


It is worth recalling that the official Ankara, paying attention to events in stories other states, sometimes extremely negatively refers to the fact that abroad speak about certain events in Turkish history. In particular, the Turkish authorities are extremely sensitive to the fact that many countries recognize the genocide of the Armenian people in the Ottoman Empire during the First World War. Erdogan does not like to mention those historical events, to put it mildly.

It is noteworthy that in the comments on Erdogan's post on Twitter appeared those where Turkish citizens urged their president to return from history to the reality of today. One such comment:

It would be necessary to resolve the issue of how we should not become unemployed. Mr. President, let us continue our business in the coming days.
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  1. Timon2155 22 May 2020 11: 45 New
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    Clearly, Russia is bad, but the Turks and the West are good. We saw, swam, we know. It should be reminded once again about the Armenian genocide, correctly in the article they notice, the Sultan does not like this)))
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 11: 59 New
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      Quote: Timon2155
      Clearly, Russia is bad, but the Turks and the West are good. We saw, swam, we know.

      Can you stop writing sarcasm? From history: The day of this meeting, May 21, 1864, was declared the day of the end of the Caucasian War. Grand Duke Mikhail Nikolaevich, brother of the king, officially proclaimed the final "conquest of the Caucasus."
      Will you deny it?

      Quote: Timon2155
      remind once again about the Armenian Genocide

      Come on? Show their burial, at least from 1.5 million show 100.000? And speaking honestly, answer yourself 3 questions. 1) Why didn’t they decide to kill the Armenians? 2) If there was a reason, who helped them, whose ears stuck in the coup d'état in the Ottoman Empire, who poisoned them, and who later removed the same Armenians to the Iravan Khanate of Azerbaijan?

      You don’t have the courage to acknowledge both the act of violence and the act of helping the Dashnaks against the Ottoman Empire and then sit sofa experts and say, EAST is a delicate matter. Turks are enemies. And for what should they respect?
      1. Sky strike fighter 22 May 2020 12: 46 New
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        "I share the pain of our Circassian brothers, who faced exile from their homeland 156 years ago."

        And according to the Greek brothers, who were expelled from Constantinople in 1453, Erdogan also mournes? The city was called Istanbul. Today, Turkey is all on former Greek, Armenian lands. Will you deny it? You don’t see the logs in your eye, but in the alien reed, make out.
        1. Abbot 22 May 2020 12: 57 New
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          The President of Turkey made a statement regarding the Circassian ethnic group. According to Erdogan, he "does not remain indifferent to what the Circassians experienced 156 years ago."

          The great sultan in his repertoire. We must thank him for caring for historical memory and tactfully hint about the Armenians and Turkish problems with the Kurds. And in general, in modern Russia there is the Karachay-Cherkess Republic with the capital Cherkessk, in which today the Circassian ethnic group lives and develops along with all other peoples of the Russian Federation. What can not be said about Turkey. And we must work closely in the region with the population, with public and religious organizations, with muftis. It is necessary to explain to them what national interests are, to teach history, to remind them that it was the geopolitical intrigues of the Ottoman Empire that plunged many Caucasian ethnic groups into bloodshed and confrontation, after which order and peace in RI were planted by force. Something like this.
          1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 13: 02 New
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            Quote: Abbot
            tactfully hint about the Armenians and Turkish problems with the Kurds.

            So for 30 years Turkey has been hinting that all historians (independent experts) should study this issue and besides Turkey nobody needs it)))))))))))))))))))) And because many have this question hands in der!

            As for the Kurds, in Turkey, the Kurds are buzzing, and the Kurds you are talking about are many Armenians among them. Yes, and the real Kurds in harmony with Turkey)))
            1. Abbot 22 May 2020 13: 18 New
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              Quote: AzDefence2020
              So for 30 years Turkey has been hinting that all historians (independent experts) should study this issue and besides Turkey nobody needs it)))))))))))))))))))) And because many have this question hands in der!

              As for the Kurds, in Turkey, the Kurds are buzzing, and the Kurds you are talking about are many Armenians among them. Yes, and the real Kurds in harmony with Turkey)))

              You have some kind of parallel reality, sorry. Thank you, I heard you. All the best.
              1. KURT330 22 May 2020 17: 07 New
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                No, that's right. After all, Turkey offered to open and make public archives on the Armenian issue. Why didn’t the Armenians agree? Maybe out of fear of someone? wink
                1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 17: 31 New
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                  Quote: KURT330
                  Why didn’t the Armenians agree?

                  So Russia refused to open archives. It is painful that they do not want lines about Russia's relations with one-eared General Andranik to come out. Divide and rule, that’s what everyone acted against Russia and the tool was the Armenians.
          2. Polente the Wanderer 22 May 2020 14: 23 New
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            "what are national interests"
            They know perfectly well what national interests are. But national always means the interests of their nations in the first place.
        2. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 59 New
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          who were expelled from Constantinople in 1453,

          and Azerbaijanis from Irevan?

          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Armenian lands.

          Tell me at least 1 Armenian ruler in the last 200 years? 300? 400? Good 500? What kind of land are we talking about?))))) Show one international agreement with them?

          And if you mean the times of the dinosaurs, then let's divide the whole world for that era not weakly?
          1. Sky strike fighter 22 May 2020 13: 09 New
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            and Azerbaijanis from Irevan?

            I’m talking about Thomas, and you’re talking about Yerema. What does Azerbaijan have to do with its conflict with Armenia? We talked about Turkey. And you translate the arrows.
            Tell me at least 1 Armenian ruler in the last 200 years? 300? 400? Good 500?

            Cheat? wink Or ask what happened before 1453? And before the Turks expelled the Greeks or the same Armenians from Anatolia.
            What kind of land are we talking about?))))) Show one international agreement with them?

            Cunning. About the same Anatolia. And where did such an interesting name come from as Anadolu? And so you're right, not a thief is caught. The bribes are smooth.
            1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 17: 39 New
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              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              Or ask what happened before 1453?

              I am for. I understand only FOR. only suckers in the person of the Turkic peoples do not need to be seen, then the whole world will be redone until 1453, including the border.



              Quote: Sky Strike fighter
              About the same Anatolia. And where did such an interesting name come from as Anadolu?

              What makes you think that this Greek word?

              1. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 17: 50 New
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                Quote: AzDefence2020
                only suckers in the person of the Turkic peoples do not need to be seen, then the whole world will be redone until 1453, including the border.

                that's what I like so much is the eternal attempt of the type to unite the WHOLE Turkic world, and it was once united, NO so why are you pushing all of yourself forward, answer for the bazaar yourself
              2. Sky strike fighter 22 May 2020 18: 03 New
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                I am for. I understand only FOR. only suckers in the person of the Turkic peoples do not need to be seen, then the whole world will be redone until 1453, including the border.


                Well, it’s glorious that you are FOR. Only for a start with historical and territorial issues, see the link below.
                The active development of Anatolia by the Seljuks began with a victory in the Battle of Manzikert in 1071. The emirs of the famous Seljuk Sultan of Alp Arslan such as Saltuk Bay, Menguch Bey, Chaka Bey, Tanrybermish Bey, Dilmachoglu Mehmed Bey, Danyshmendi Ghazi Bey and others, from 1071 to 1102 conquered and founded ten beyliks who changed history throughout history. Later, beiliks entered the more organized and powerful Turkic beiliks of the Koni Sultanate, the Ottoman beilik, etc.

                https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5b10e98f48c85e2421e05394/spisok-pervyh-tiurskih-vladenii-v-anatolii-xixii-v-5e9c603fe8af1c5b9d6aa456

                May 29, 1453 after an almost continuous three-day assault, supported by artillery, the Turkish army of Sultan Mehmed II, nicknamed Fatih ("Conqueror") captured Constantinople. This marked the end of the 1100-year history of the Christian Byzantine Empire.
                The last emperor of Byzantium, Konstantin XI Paleolog, died heroically fighting among the defenders of the city. He was recognized in a huge mountain of corpses by the small golden two-headed eagles on purple morocco boots. The Sultan ordered to cut off Konstantin’s head and put it out for public viewing at the hippodrome, and to bury the body with proper honors.
                Constantine was the last of the emperors of the Romans. With the death of Constantine XI, the Byzantine Empire ceased to exist. Its lands became part of the Ottoman state. The sultan was granted the Greeks the rights of a self-governing community within the empire, and the Patriarch of Constantinople, who was responsible to the sultan, was to head the community.
                The sultan himself, considering himself the successor of the Byzantine emperor, took the title of Kaiser-i Rum (Caesar of Rome). This title was worn by Turkish sultans until the end of the First World War.

                https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2016/05/29/etot-den-v-istorii-29-maya-1453-goda-turki-zahvatili-konstantinopol
          2. Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 May 2020 16: 31 New
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            And if you mean the times of the dinosaurs, then let's divide the whole world for that era not weakly?

            Easy! wink Only you will not like it! tongue
            In the era of trilobites, the Ural Ocean was in the southern hemisphere !!! what
            Turkey is much south, in the Antarctic region !!! good
            I think the penguins will not like you !!! lol
            Now seriously. Seljuk Turks came to the Black Sea from Altai. The Slavs also walked around the world! If you roll back the situation to the fall of Constantinople, these are the times of Vasily and Ivan II, then Russia at that time was still a small regional power within the central federal district! Ottoman Porta, also at the start, without major territorial acquisitions to Europe and Africa! If we take the day real Turkey = Turkey sample of five centuries ago. Russia is the largest continental country! Feel the difference however!
            Regards, Kote!
          3. Tank hard 23 May 2020 09: 48 New
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            Quote: AzDefence2020
            Tell me at least 1 Armenian ruler in the last 200 years? 300? 400? Good 500? What kind of land are we talking about?))))) Show one international agreement with them?

            So, have a discussion with the Armenians on their or your site. Do not flood the topic with illiterate posts, for example:
            Quote: AzDefence2020
            dinаsaur
        3. pmkemcity 22 May 2020 13: 13 New
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          But according to the Greek brothers, who were expelled from Constantinople in 1453, is Erdogan also mourning?

          By this time, they had long been not “Greek,” but “Slavic” brothers.
        4. avg
          avg 22 May 2020 13: 43 New
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          Genocide of Greeks and other Christians (1914-1923) Minister of War Enver Pasha said in October 1915: “I would like to solve the Greek problem during the war ... in the same way that I seem to have solved the Armenian problem. In 2007, the International Association of Genocide Researchers adopted a resolution recognizing the campaign against the Christian minorities of the Ottoman Empire, including the Greeks, as genocide. And Erdogan is just nervous, lying, hysterical on the wave of radicalism brought to the presidency. And many Turks understand this more and more.
        5. parkello 22 May 2020 14: 24 New
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          and the name Istanbul itself is from the Greek true poly (in the city, in the city ... literally), and they played the game until 1925, and the Jews and Armenians and anyone else .. all who did not obey for one reason or another .. but as the Kgreks say, their shit doesn’t stink ... how do they recognize that they exterminated everyone in a row? .. this is an article in the UN and an occasion for war.
          1. Stavros 22 May 2020 16: 49 New
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            Al filet, let them not forget the afti name, that nothing is forgotten, and no one is going to forget.
            1. parkello 22 May 2020 16: 55 New
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              adelph !! fellow kalos se blindly edo filet mu Stavro)) ... and yes right, we can’t forget .. because everything is recorded. I would say on paper, but there are documents written before its appearance as a product for the office)) I remember on Athos I saw documents on calf skin written, instead of ink, they used sep squid. so ... what they can brag about is all ours. and let them not forget, and when we need to get material evidence, reinforced concrete) yes
        6. KURT330 22 May 2020 17: 04 New
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          And on whose lands is Russia worth?)) Do not put it that way. Everyone knows everything about everything))
      2. Hlavaty 22 May 2020 13: 27 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        And speaking honestly, answer yourself 3 questions. 1) Why didn’t they decide to kill the Armenians? 2) If there was anything, then who helped them

        With regard to the Jewish pogroms, do these issues also work? Or only in relation to the Armenians?
        1. parkello 22 May 2020 17: 16 New
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          they already forgot how the Turks slaughtered the Jews, the Poles slaughtered. the Germans ... yes, everyone is not lazy ... and the Greeks hid them at home. They gave their names so that the Germans would not shoot them ... we had the whole Tsimiski street Jewish. and above Vardara, the Jewish quarter was. even when they were leaving here, they didn’t want to leave. they cried ... they left their houses and shops to the Greeks. Because the Greeks helped them during the war, that with the Turks. That with the Germans-Italians, that with the Bulgarians ... Thessaloniki called the Jews poli ( the city of Jews. if literally) but we did not betray them .. didn’t hand over to either Italian or German or Bulgarian or Turk ... let them remember that our people were killed for this ... that they would live. I grew up with Jews since childhood. Until they moved to permanent residence in Israel. The Germans shot my grandfather for not saying where they were hiding and how many of them ... but few remember this. when I go to Israel, I always stay for a week in Haifa and Netanya .. our salvation people settled there, I am friends with their children too. we ate and drank from the same plate, slept together on the same bed. I will not forget them, and they hope us too. we keep what we fought for. and we will never forget and forgive the Turks. the bones of our ancestors creak in the graves ... cry out for revenge. so ... big surprises await them.
          1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 17: 48 New
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            they already forgot how the Turks slaughtered the Jews

            This is something new))))))))
            1. parkello 22 May 2020 17: 49 New
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              this is not new. but well forgotten old. hi
            2. Oquzyurd 22 May 2020 21: 56 New
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              There’s no perversion to the perversion. There’s a lot more to come up with.)
      3. mikh-korsakov 22 May 2020 13: 27 New
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        EAST is a delicate matter, but Russia is a thick matter. One could refer to the burning of Moscow in 1571 by the Crimean Khan Devlet Giray. But we will not be likened. If you want to be offended by Russians, yes be offended as much as you want. And we have no time. Our life will improve, but it will improve, you will not wait for another - you will come to Moscow to sell vegetables.
      4. Xnumx vis 22 May 2020 13: 30 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        Can you stop writing sarcasm? From history: The day of this meeting, May 21, 1864, was declared the day of the end of the Caucasian War. Grand Duke Mikhail Nikolaevich, brother of the king, officially proclaimed the final "conquest of the Caucasus."
        Will you deny it?

        Where is Turkey, where is the Caucasus! Why is your Erdogan not crying about the fate of the American Indians and Negroes turned into slaves by the Angles? Afraid of America !!!! Yes, and millions of Slavs tortured and enslaved by the Turks, sold into slavery by the Turks ... Tribute to the blood from Christian peoples, why did not remember and did not repent! For many families, the selection of their sons by devshire became a real tragedy !! It's time for Turkey to start paying compensation for the Turkish genocide!
      5. Same lech 22 May 2020 13: 54 New
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        As I understand it, you are justifying the genocide of the Turks against the Armenians ... then you and I will never come to an understanding.
        In addition, I would remind you of Turkey’s constant dirty tricks against Russia ... this also left a mark on the attitude of Russians towards Turkey and now, by and large, little has changed in Turkey’s policies led by Erdogan.
        The Russian soldier has witnessed this genocide and you will never wash away this stain of Turkey’s shame of the massacre of Armenians.


        https://tjournal.ru/flood/91860-obrabotannye-v-ultra-hd-4k-arhivnye-fotografii-genocida-armyan
        1. KURT330 22 May 2020 17: 14 New
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          Yeah, on the turtles it is already written that this is the ancient Armenian skull?) Adults seem to be, and what are you doing. And is that your evidence? Well, find at least one mass burial of Armenians. They were killed as much as 1.5 million type. Well, where are these graves?
          1. Oquzyurd 22 May 2020 22: 11 New
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            Moreover, they started with the figure of 90 thousand dead, then, after a few years, they already said 300 thousand, after that, they decided to lie like that on a big scale, they reached 1.5 million, now they can’t stop, they’re already talking about 2 million .Logically, if they would like to convince everyone thoroughly, after the first figure (?) 90 thousand, and as it went on increasing, they had to present new facts, burials, documents, etc. But this was not, and never will be. They turned this topic into a business among their diasporas around the world, and this will continue as well. Opening archives will cause irreparable damage to this policy, covering everything and everything artificially created.
      6. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 13: 55 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        Grand Duke Mikhail Nikolaevich, brother of the king, officially proclaimed the final "conquest of the Caucasus."
        Will you deny it?

        and?!!!!
        Why this cry of Yaroslavna? !!!
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        1) Why didn’t they decide to kill the Armenians? 2) If it was for what

        eeeeee
        do not specify why 80 years ago, citizens of one European country suddenly decided that there are peoples who are unworthy of living? !!!!!
      7. avg
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        Come on? Show their burial, at least from 1.5 million show 100.000

        Now I’ll drop everything, and I’ll go to show the graves.
        If you are interested, turn to the Armenians, they will show you everything and tell you, if not until the last Armenian, then up to a hundred for sure.
        Yes, don’t, don’t tell them about Erdogan ...
      8. gurzuf 22 May 2020 15: 01 New
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        What are we talking about. Consciousness does not torment the sultan in Syria to fry oil as caravans. So these are the current affairs. Living witnesses who wanted on the Internet can watch.
      9. tagil 22 May 2020 16: 01 New
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        And you are aware that the outcome of the Circassians was provoked by the British and Turks, and not only the Circassians, but even the Ossetians (and they are Christians). Russia provided both ships and provisions to those leaving. But when the Circassians arrived in Turkey, their hopes were deceived, they settled on unsuitable cultivated lands, were not allowed to engage in crafts, and were encouraged to sell their women into slavery and harems. For the Circassians there was one road to the Turkish army, here the Turks did everything so that the Circassians fought with Russia. And when the Circassians realized that their Turkish brothers were not ... well, then the Turks already made all sorts of obstacles for their departure to their homeland, right up to the killings. Although Russia again provided its ships for their return.
        1. Albert1988 22 May 2020 19: 10 New
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          But when the Circassians arrived in Turkey, their hopes were deceived, they settled on unsuitable lands for cultivation.

          Most generally assimilated severely, because of which many unique local languages ​​of the North Caucasus disappeared ...
          1. Crane 22 May 2020 19: 49 New
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            And how many Turks in the Black Sea have sunk immigrants, the mustachioed does not want to remember?
            1. Albert1988 22 May 2020 20: 02 New
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              Quote: Crane
              And how many Turks in the Black Sea have sunk immigrants, the mustachioed does not want to remember?

              What do you! He doesn’t want to notice the Armenian genocide ...
          2. tagil 22 May 2020 20: 01 New
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            Most generally assimilated severely, because of which many unique local languages ​​of the North Caucasus disappeared ...
            Yes, you are right, but for the sake of truth I must say that there were also enough Turkish military leaders of Circassian origin. Although mere mortals were spread rot, but princes with money were greeted.
            1. Albert1988 22 May 2020 20: 03 New
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              Quote: Tagil
              Yes, you are right, but for the sake of truth I must say that there were also enough Turkish military leaders of Circassian origin. Although mere mortals were spread rot, but princes with money were greeted.

              Clear business - they have money! But ordinary people in the mines ...
              1. tagil 22 May 2020 20: 08 New
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                But what a howl stood in "democratic" Europe over the Russian genocide of Caucasians, especially in England. Oh oh oh. Although the war in the Caucasus was again started by England, knocking out the highlanders to attack the only Russian infantry company stationed in Mozdok (Ossetia) which guarded the road. And these were the only Russian troops near the mountains. But as always, Russia is to blame for starting a war.
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                  Quote: Tagil
                  But what a howl stood in "democratic" Europe over the Russian genocide of Caucasians, especially in England.

                  These are centuries-old traditions!
                  Quote: Tagil
                  Although the war in the Caucasus, England again started

                  Well, this is also a "centuries-old tradition"!
                  "An Englishwoman is crap! An Englishwoman is crap! An Englishwoman will crap!"
                  Quote: Tagil
                  But as always, Russia is to blame for starting a war.

                  Well, looking at modern political farces like the “MH-17 process” and the “Skripals case” - everything becomes clear)))
                  One thing is good - our "partners" are extremely predictable))))
      10. Bad_gr 22 May 2020 22: 56 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        The day of this meeting, May 21, 1864, was declared the day of the end of the Caucasian War.

        At first you would have a little history.
        How did this war even begin? Once again, Georgia requested not just help (and the first attempts were back in the time of Peter the Great), but as part of the Russian Empire, as they were constantly between a rock and a hard place (Persia and Turkey). And unlike the previous kings, who saw only losses in rendering assistance, the George Treaty was concluded under Catherine, and under Paul I (if my memory serves me) troops were introduced into Georgia (when they approached, the Persians liberated Georgia without fighting). The supply went along the Georgian military road and coastal transport. Both here and there, local peoples practiced robbery and trade in slaves. In this area, 3-4 local residents accounted for 1 slave. Several times peace treaties were signed, and their constant failure to comply with local ones. In the end, patience ran out and began to solve the problem by more stringent methods.
        By the way, one of the largest pirate places in our time is pos. Dagomys.

        It would not hurt you to read about "Mahadzhirstvo" and Bagrat Shinkub "The Last of the Departed". This is about the Caucasian peoples.
        Quote: AzDefence2020
        Show their burial

        And you on the territory of Greater Sochi can show the graves of the Ubykhs, Circassians, etc. ? and how many are there?
      11. IS-80_RVGK2 22 May 2020 23: 00 New
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        You don’t have the courage to admit the Armenian Genocide. Why the heck do we have to admit to what we didn't do? By the way, no one called the Turks to Byzantium. They came in large numbers. So draw conclusions occupier.
      12. SSR
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        Can you stop writing sarcasm? From history: The day of this meeting, May 21, 1864, was declared the day of the end of the Caucasian War. Grand Duke Mikhail Nikolaevich, brother of the king, officially proclaimed the final "conquest of the Caucasus."
        Will you deny it?

        Kamrad, I am quietly quiet, in a whisper, I want to ask, are you sorting out all the skeletons in the cabinets like that?
        My opinion.
        It may be a dead end opinion but I will say.
        Erdogash Forest, it is up to him to decide with the UAE and Egypt and Iran. Worm greyhound, strong outside ....
        Your smart historical dates .. Yes, undermine to more ancient years before, ancient not absolutely .....
        Comrades, you litter the resource with the close-up dumb high-rises from The Big History. About.
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      He did not forget to remember about the Armenians? They were not expelled, they were simply destroyed. Guardian of Circassian justice
    3. Albert1988 22 May 2020 16: 15 New
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      Clearly, Russia is bad, but the Turks and the West are good. We saw, swam, we know. It should be reminded once again about the Armenian genocide, correctly in the article they notice, the Sultan does not like this)))

      But I propose to recall that in the first place it’s not Circassians, but Adygs, since the Circassian in Turkish is “thug”, this in itself illustrates the attitude of the Turks towards these peoples. And secondly, to recall that these same Circassians left Russia exclusively by choice - temporary deportation to the Kuban with the possibility of then returning to their native lands or emigrating to Turkey. As a result, those resettled in the Kuban returned to the Caucasus and now have their own republic, and those who left for Turkey were warmly received in their new "homeland": the elderly left the sea from the ships on the way. The men were driven into the mines upon arrival, and the women were forcibly distributed to the locals, the children were sent to foster families and actively assimilated ... Such Turkish hospitality and care for the "brotherly" peoples ...
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        1. Albert1988 22 May 2020 19: 03 New
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          how much plaque is Historians on the site ... nothing that 99% of Wikipedians ...

          Do you, dear, have something to say against? By the way, the information I provided does not apply to Wikipedia ... It was obtained from a person, Adyge by nationality, specialist in the history of the peoples of the North Caucasus. Incidentally, he traveled many times to Turkey itself in search of the descendants of the Adygs taken there.
          Quote: Dead Day
          but I hate Erdogash for the downed pilots in Syria.

          For this, all adequate people hate him. But. no matter how cruel it may sound, during the recent events in the north of Syria, the Turkish military paid in full for these crimes ...
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            Do you, dear, have something to say against? By the way, the information I provided does not apply to Wikipedia ..

            "you think a lot for yourself," as they used to say in Odessa .. why did you decide that my comment refers to you?
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              Quote: Dead Day
              "you think a lot for yourself," as they used to say in Odessa .. why did you decide that my comment refers to you?

              Probably because it goes as an answer exactly to my comment?
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                Quote: Albert1988
                Quote: Dead Day
                "you think a lot for yourself," as they used to say in Odessa .. why did you decide that my comment refers to you?

                Probably because it goes as an answer exactly to my comment?

                try to find a free "niche" .... hi
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                  try to find a free "niche" ....

                  Ah, if only for this, then I apologize ... repeat
          2. Grandfather 22 May 2020 19: 11 New
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            no matter how cruel it may sound, the Turkish military during the recent events in the north of Syria fully paid for these crimes ..

            Russian accounts were ... no? and how much did they estimate the death of our high-class pilots who got a blow in the back?
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              Russian accounts were ... no?

              about 30 Turkish military men, who clambered into the columns of bearded children, officially died then due to attacks by the “Syrian aviation”, I think you remember. According to unofficial data, about 80 Turkish military could have died from the attacks of "Syrian aviation" at that time. BUT! How did the Syrians know exactly where to beat?
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      Against the backdrop of success in Libya, Edik once again fluffed out his mustache ...
      I forgot that when you live in a glass house, it is not safe to throw stones at a neighbor.
      It can pin down the roof. Who went ... wink
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    And how many poor Tatar-Mongols died during the yoke ..
    And then Polovtsy, we destroyed Polovtsy! All of us ..: P
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 03 New
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      And how many poor Tatar-Mongols died during the yoke

      I agree. The Mongol yoke claimed a lot of life, including Slavic.
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        Thank you, kind, good man. Declined to subhuman.
    2. orionvitt 22 May 2020 12: 35 New
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      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      And how many poor Tatar-Mongols died during the yoke ..
      And then Polovtsy, we destroyed Polovtsy! All of us ..: P

      Especially if you look now, it turns out everyone is alive healthy. Both the Mongols and the Tatars. And on the Circassian issue, let Erdogan go to the Caucasus, see, everything is in place. And the Circassians and even Chechens with Karachais, with whom the "tyrant" Stalin, that just did not do, and evicted and so destroyed, well, just millions. And they, oops, are still in place and live on their own. And how are you, much better than others in the rest of Russia.
  3. Andrei Nikolaevich 22 May 2020 11: 51 New
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    Volodya, do not be friends with this boy. It affects you badly.)))
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      Volodya, do not be friends with this boy. It affects you badly.))

      or maybe we won’t ask for something we don’t give ourselves?
  4. Carnifexx 22 May 2020 11: 52 New
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    In particular, the Turkish authorities are extremely sensitive to the fact that many countries recognize the genocide of the Armenian people in the Ottoman Empire during the First World War.
    There is one. But in general, the president-historian is not fun. The more madness and incompetence today the more anniversaries, exiles and Polovtsians are remembered.
  5. vavilon 22 May 2020 11: 52 New
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    He constantly needs to be reminded that the Orthodox city of Constantinople is located in Turkey and not Istanbul
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 05 New
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      He constantly needs to be reminded that the Orthodox city of Constantinople is located in Turkey and not Istanbul

      Like you about the Turkic city of KYRYM (Crimea) and about many Turkic territories on the territory of modern Russia.
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        My dear
        you just need to remind where you came from to Constantinople
        And then you can be sent there if you don’t correct it, of course)))
        1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 13: 05 New
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          My dear
          you just need to remind where you came from to Constantinople

          For starters, you should look and study the question of Turan and then look at the years and then re-ask this question only this time to yourself respected.

          Quote: vavilon
          And then there you can be sent if you do not correct, of course

          fortunately in the courtyard of the 21st century. They are no longer afraid, and moreover, it is not yet known who will send whom. Judging by the latest news from Syria and Libya, I would not promise in your place))))
          1. vavilon 22 May 2020 17: 40 New
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            Dear friend,
            I don’t want to study your Turan, it’s not interesting for me; I rely only on historical facts
            And everyone has their own news and everyone has their own truth
            No matter how and what happens, it’s important how it all ends.
        2. KURT330 22 May 2020 17: 17 New
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          Speak the word halva more! wink
      2. orionvitt 22 May 2020 12: 39 New
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        So maybe you can recall in what century, Crimea suddenly became Turkic?
        1. vavilon 22 May 2020 12: 53 New
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          Yes for the sake of your enlightenment:

          The Türks are an ethnolinguistic community that formed in the steppes of Northern China in the XNUMXst millennium BC. e.
          Türkic-speaking are many peoples inhabiting world space. Conventionally, they can be classified into several groups. Conventionality is explained by linguistic convergence in the process of coexistence of tribes in neighboring lands. Ancient t. Include: Turkuts, Pechenegs, Polovtsy, Huns, Bulgars, Khazars, Oghuz Turks, Karluks.
      3. Slavs 22 May 2020 12: 42 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        about many Turkic territories in the territory of modern Russia.

        If you are so sad about the territory of modern Russia, then from the territories of the USSR you will feel bad with your heart, and from the territories of the Russian Empire you will have a lingering depression))
        1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 13: 09 New
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          If the territory of modern Russia saddens you so much

          Does it sad me?))))))) Why? I just need to sit still and wait. At one time, Tsar Nikolai thought so. We know what happened to him and his territory. And then the communists came with Kuzkin’s mother, what happened to them we also know in the territories, so I wouldn’t have renounced in your place. Especially since the Japanese are right there with the Kuril Islands, China and Siberia. Finland with Karelia. The Germans with Kaliningrad, and so on and that ...

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          your lingering depression will begin

          Given the above, we should not be depressed)))))))))))
          1. mikh-korsakov 22 May 2020 13: 56 New
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            Az! Your position doesn’t even disappoint me, but amuses me. It’s funny to me how, in the heat of the argument, you are taking the side of those who dream of dividing Russia, they say, it has just too much. Do you think that the Russian people themselves will rise and want to give their lands? Do not wait. Poles, Germans, French, Romanians wanted this - and so what?
          2. Thompson 22 May 2020 14: 41 New
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            Here's a direct analogy and conclusion - a Ukrainian Azerbaijani or Azerbaijani Ukrainian. It’s painful to think with just some patterns ... however, today it fell apart or fell off just for you. Just a fact
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      4. Xnumx vis 22 May 2020 13: 36 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        Quote: vavilon
        He constantly needs to be reminded that the Orthodox city of Constantinople is located in Turkey and not Istanbul

        Like you about the Turkic city of KYRYM (Crimea) and about many Turkic territories on the territory of modern Russia.

        It's ridiculous! It’s ridiculous to God ... the Turkic city of “Crimea” Chersonesos, Panticapaeum, Yevpatoria know, but I haven’t heard about the cities of Turks in Crimea ... Ah! There is one - Bakhchisarath ... What is translated into Russian, like - melon-city! A barn is a barn, that is, a shack, a hut, a hut ... In a word Shed in the garden !!
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          "What is translated into Russian, like - melon-town! A barn is a barn, that is, a shack, a hut, a hut ... In a word, the Barn in the garden !!" Amazing knowledge of the language and meaning of words lol "Bakhcha" means "Garden", the Shed "means" Palace "in many Turkic languages.
          1. Xnumx vis 22 May 2020 17: 55 New
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            Quote: Oquzyurd
            An amazing knowledge of the language and the meaning of the words "Bahcha" means "Garden", the Shed "means" Palace "in many Turkic languages.

            This is your garden melon ... And the Russian meaning of your "garden" is a GARDEN .... for zucchini and watermelons ... And in the palace -SARAJ ... we have all the rubbish, coal and firewood ..... The barn in the garden, he is barn in the garden! In a word, Bakhchisaray !!!
            1. Oquzyurd 22 May 2020 21: 50 New
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              "There is one - Bakhchisaray" You wrote. The Turks built this BakhchAsaray and didn’t think at that time that you would use these Turkic words as your own “garden” and “hut”.
              The Turkic Sultan in this city had a Palace (Barn) for summer vacations, as it was more cool there in summer than in Anatolia.
              1. Xnumx vis 22 May 2020 21: 59 New
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                This BahchAsaray Turks

                I always believed that it was the residence of Gireyev .. Kymous Tatars ...
                At the beginning of the 1420th century, the Gireev (Geraev) dynasty arose on the Crimean peninsula, which was strengthened with the help of the Lithuanian-Russian Grand Duke Vytautas and was first a vassal of Lithuania. The residence of this dynasty was the fortress of Kirk-Er (now Chufut-Kale), and later the khan's settlement not far - actually Bakhchisaray. The first khan of this dynasty was Haji I Gerai (1466-1429), who, by the way, participated in the XNUMX international European congress in Lutsk, where plans for a joint campaign of Christian Europe against the Turks were discussed.
        2. KURT330 22 May 2020 17: 21 New
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          Bahcha and Sarai are Russian words ??? laughing
          1. Xnumx vis 22 May 2020 17: 56 New
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            Quote: KURT330
            Bahcha and Sarai are Russian words ??? laughing

            These are Turkic words that in the Russian language have the meaning of Sarai and Bakhchi!
      5. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 14: 00 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        and about many Turkic territories in the territory of modern Russia.

        Türks are not Turkey, but about Crimea, to remind because of what he became Russian, they would sit quietly on their priests and live for their pleasure, but what is not the task, they didn’t want to work, and therefore they needed to live on something and were engaged in human trafficking , the Russian neighbor endured, endured, but how patience came to an end and closed the topic once and for all
      6. Stavros 22 May 2020 16: 32 New
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        You still tell us about Karimli, this one which the Kremlin built)
        By the way, the other day, your Aliyev on the map of Azerbaijan was looking for what he managed to find there or not?)
      7. ecolog 22 May 2020 17: 09 New
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        the Turks in Crimea just came before, nothing more.
  6. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 11: 53 New
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    Erdogan decided to recall the anniversary of the "expulsion of the Circassians from Tsarist Russia"
    ! There was no exile, there was a choice, and they made it. Soyuznichka wants us to dunk him in the shit of the Armenian genocide, and through this gain the support of the Turks. Somehow you need to beat him in a brazen, cunning, mustachioed face. angry
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 07 New
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      he was dunked in the shit of the Armenian genocide

      Yes, they do not care about this famous genocide. Half the world set fire to Armenians for a coup, failed, they decided to make long-suffering of them. Therefore, everything from Russia to Armenia archives and hide and do not open. If your hands are not in shit, what archives do not open? Turkey is open to everyone .....
      1. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 12: 25 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        the famous genocide.
        And is it considered so in the world, or only in Turkey?
        Quote: AzDefence2020
        Yes, they do not care
        I understand, I understand ... The camel has no where to spit, he decided to spit to the North. request
      2. PalBor 22 May 2020 12: 41 New
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        If only the Armenians suffered there, you could believe with a stretch. But given that many hundreds of thousands of Assyrians, Christian Arabs, Yezidi Kurds, Pontic Greeks, Molokans Russians were destroyed, your weak arguments: "But they themselves are to blame!" do not channel. Especially in defense of the Young Turks regime, which was our enemy in 1 MV. There was genocide of non-Muslims and that’s it.
        1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 13: 12 New
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          Quote: PalBor
          hundreds of thousands of Assyrians, Christian Arabs, Yezidi Kurds, Pontic Greeks, Molokans Russians were also destroyed, your weak arguments: "But they themselves are to blame!" do not channel.

          This is something new) Are you not interested in who mainly fought with the Armenians? Guess from 3 times, who else claimed the lands that the Armenians wanted? There and look for your assassins killers. The Ottoman Empire stood for a long time because all nations respected it. Like in the USSR. Therefore, it was great.
      3. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 12: 59 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        If your hands are not in shit, what archives do not open?
        It’s sinful to laugh at the doctor. The glands were carved by the Turks through the anus. (Aziz Nesin)
    2. Sergey49 22 May 2020 12: 10 New
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      Well, yes, at least the Circassians were given a choice - to leave or die. We must say thanks to Russia for this.
      1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 18 New
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        Quote: Sergey49
        the choice was given - to leave or die. We must say thanks to Russia for this.

        May God give you such a choice and thanks to the one who will give you this choice.
        1. apro 22 May 2020 12: 36 New
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          God grant you such a choice

          The choice of the Circassians is war. And this is their choice. And in the war you can lose .... if that.
      2. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 12: 19 New
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        Quote: Sergey49
        Well, yes, at least the Circassians were given a choice - to leave or die. We must say thanks to Russia for this.

        Circassians who remained dead? fool fool Ну fool
        1. Sergey49 22 May 2020 12: 30 New
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          Yeah, in America, too, the Indians remained, wise guy.
          1. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 12: 38 New
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            Quote: Sergey49
            Yeah, in America, too, the Indians remained, wise guy.

            And we plagued the Circassians, like the brazen Indians? Well, you gush with ideas, Seryozha. foolI recognize the Svanidze-Gozman school.
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              Don't stick out your ignorance, Mauritius.
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                Don't stick out your ignorance, Mauritius.

                Blown away, Gray, well. request
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                Ie "died" is this vezhestvo?
          2. Slavs 22 May 2020 12: 47 New
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            So what about the Circassians? My son served a year in Cherkessk, no one cursed ...)
            1. Okolotochny 22 May 2020 13: 18 New
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              Cherekssk, by the way, is 30% Russian. Walk through the streets and everything will become clear about how the "enslavers and the humiliated" live.
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                Quote: Okolotochny
                Cherekssk, by the way, is 30% Russian. Walk through the streets and everything will become clear about how the "enslavers and the humiliated" live.

                That's right, Alex! Again they want to pit us ..
                Stalin said, "I am Russian of Georgian descent ..!"
                Nothing, everything will be fine .., sure!
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                Quote: Okolotochny
                Cherekssk, by the way, is 30% Russian. Walk through the streets and everything will become clear about how the "enslavers and the humiliated" live.

                By the way, Cherkessk is historically the village of Batalpashinskaya. And it would be nice to remind Erdogan why he had such a name.
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        Well, yes, at least the Circassians were given a choice - to leave or die

        Well, and how, a lot died. Travel to the Caucasus, look. I already wrote above, everything is in place. they even made their own republic. They live and live, they do not blow into the dudu, only the water, as always, is muddied.
    3. Altona 22 May 2020 13: 02 New
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      Ally wants

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      With what fright Erdogan is Russia's ally? He never was and never will be. If there was any rhetoric or even trade, then these are just words and just trade. In fact, Erdogan, by his actions, including this one, distances himself from Russia and insists on his interests, that is, leads an undeclared war.
  7. fruit_cake 22 May 2020 11: 53 New
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    what about the expelled Syrians from Syria to the same Turkey in the amount of several million?
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 09 New
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      what about the expelled Syrians

      They themselves left. Because cowards. They don’t know how to fight. Love an easy life. These are not my words, but the words of the prophet Muhammad himself, only I wrote in a more intelligible language. The same picture is with the Iraqis.
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        They themselves left. Because cowards.

        you and the Circassians themselves left because cowards, and you don’t know how to fight all your life, Slavs fought for you, because the Janissaries grew out of Slavic children
  8. sibiryk 22 May 2020 11: 56 New
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    And about the Armenians, does he also remember?
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 11 New
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      And about the Armenians, does he also remember?

      Of course he remembers. He remembers that before the celebrated genocide, half of the Ottoman diplomats were Armenians, they were allowed to pray and build churches on the territory of the Ottoman Empire. Schools in their own languages. And then, thanks to those who pity them and blackmail them with this genocide, they promised the Armenians the land and their country. Read about one recruited “One-Eared General” Armenian. For what and why he was punished. Remember everything Erdogan do not worry.
      1. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 14: 03 New
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        they were allowed to pray and build churches in the Ottoman Empire

        but do not tell me if not a Muslim could use a horse in the Ottoman Empire?
  9. knn54 22 May 2020 11: 58 New
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    As his mother would say, just not drink ...
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    Erdogan was, is and will be the enemy of Russia. He understands only when they give him the teeth.
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 12: 13 New
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      Quote: SU
      Erdogan was, is and will be the enemy of Russia. He understands only when they give him the teeth.

      and this is said by the representative of the people who took the land from the Turks, and some peoples destroyed their life and history (I am talking about the Turks in Russia) so they know very well that your friendship is not worth a penny. For this, a lot of mind is not needed. Look around at your neighbors and your relationship with imperial manners.
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        Turks have always carried genocide to peoples. The same Balkans, Armenians. The Russians liberated the peoples of Europe from the Turkish yoke. But Erdogan will break his teeth and be killed by his own people in the end.
        And our neighbors, as one, go to Russia in droves in order to earn money for their impoverished republics, who staged a parade of sovereignty. If it weren’t for Russia, then now all the Balkans were under the Turkish yoke, the Turks would have been cut out by the Turks without a trace, as is now happening in the Kurdish provinces.
      2. Kronos 22 May 2020 12: 21 New
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        As if the Turks did not have imperial ways and the desire to recreate the Ottoman Empire
      3. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 12: 48 New
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        and this is said by the representative of the people who took the land from the Turks,

        Dear, do not rush. Answer: "Our Crimea?"
        As for "your" lands. Answer: "is yours Constantinople?"
        Do not grab someone else's, you will not receive a rake. "Eyes are envious, hands are raking.
        Where did the Seljuk Turks crawl out of? so crawl back to the house, to the hut.
      4. orionvitt 22 May 2020 12: 49 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        and this is said by the representative of the people who took the land from the Turks,

        Nefig was at war with Russia. They took away a little, regretted it. And if you already go into history, then the Turks by and large, the newcomers, do not live on their own land.
      5. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 14: 03 New
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        Quote: AzDefence2020
        representative of the people who took the land from the Turks

        land list can you voice ?!
        ps your country still exists only thanks to grandfather Lenin
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        "and this is said by the representative of the people who took the land from the Turks," as you said - you are to blame yourself because the cowards?
  11. 1536 22 May 2020 12: 02 New
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    Did you receive a letter from 10 Downing Street with a new methodological guide for dealing with Russia? Once again, the Turks want to put their country under the British feet. We are waiting for the new 2053, and the Turks are probably waiting for the 2056th? Crimea they still can not see how their ears!
  12. Keyser soze 22 May 2020 12: 07 New
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    Turks time to get out of Constantinople.
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      Turks time to get out of Constantinople.

      But what if the Turks tell you this? From Crimea to Yakutia?
      1. Keyser soze 22 May 2020 12: 24 New
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        What if the Turks tell you this? From Crimea to Yakutia?


        There, the Russians kick you so that you remember a thousand years. And the Turks and their Turkic sixes. And then the peacefully plowed tractor will turn on the afterburner and retire into orbit ... laughing
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      3. V1er 22 May 2020 12: 45 New
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        But what if the Turks tell you this? From Crimea to Yakutia?


        Especially for you a brief history of the Crimea.
        In the VI – V centuries. BC e., when the Scythians dominated the steppes, immigrants from Hellas founded their trading colonies on the Crimean coast. Panticapaeum or the Bosporus (the modern city of Kerch) and Theodosius were built by colonists from the ancient Greek city of Miletus; Chersonesos, located within the limits of present Sevastopol, was built by the Greeks from Heraclea of ​​the Pontic colony.
        By the middle of the 47st century AD e. the Romans settled in Crimea. The Bosporus kingdom became dependent on Rome. Rome actively influences the politics of the peninsula from 340 BC. e. for XNUMX years n e.
        In the VI century, the Crimea came under the control of the Turks, the Turkic Khaganate also controlled the northern Black Sea coast. In the VII century, Bulgars-Turks were noted here.

        In the XNUMXth century, Pechenegs and Hungarians appeared in Crimea. At the beginning of the X century, Crimea becomes the scene of the battle of the armies of the Rus (Helgu) and the Khazars (Passover). After the death of the Khazar Khaganate, the Khazar part of Crimea passes under the influence of the Old Russian Tmutarakan principality. A significant city in this period is Korchev.
        After the weakening of Byzantium in its former Crimean possessions by the Gotalans (Crimean Goths), the Orthodox Christian Principality of Theodoro was founded with the capital in the largest "cave city" city of Mangup
        In 1223, the Mongol Tatar-Mongol troops invaded Crimea, but soon left it. Steppe Crimea becomes the possession of the Golden Horde - Jochi Ulus - not earlier than 1250.

        In the XIV century, part of the territory of the south-eastern coast of Crimea displacing the Venetians was acquired by the Genoese (Gazaria, Kaffa, Soldaya). By this time, the Polovtsian language was already widely spread in the Crimea, as evidenced by the Codex Kumanikus. In 1367, Crimea was subordinate to the rebel Beklarbek Mamay, whose power also relied on the Genoese colonies. After the defeat of Tokhtamysh, Mamai fled to the Crimea and was killed in 1380

        After the collapse of the Golden Horde in 1441 in Crimea from various ethnic groups inhabiting Crimea, the formation of the Crimean Tatar people begins, its state is formed - the Crimean Khanate.
        The Russo-Turkish war of 1768-1774 put an end to Ottoman rule over the Crimea, and according to the Kuchuk-Kainardzhi peace treaty of 1774, the Ottomans officially refused claims to the peninsula. The fortresses of Kerch and Yenikale moved to Russia, blocking the exit from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Black Sea. The Kerch Strait became Russian, which was of great importance for the southern trade of Russia. The Crimean Khanate was declared independent of Turkey. Former Ottoman possessions on the peninsula (Southern and Southeast Crimea) passed to the Crimean Khanate. The historical task of Russia’s exit to the Black Sea was half solved.

        Bottom line: the Ottomans were only temporary passengers in this car. For centuries, Crimea = Russia and in 1000 years it will remain so.
      4. Slavs 22 May 2020 12: 52 New
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        Are you bored in Baku? Why did you split up like that?)) Hang a Turkish flag in the bedroom and meditate before going to bed ... True, there is a danger of morning emissions ...))
      5. orionvitt 22 May 2020 12: 54 New
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        But what if the Turks tell you this? From Crimea to Yakutia?

        fool What else can be expected from a “oppressed” person of a non-Russian nationality. Of course, the Russians are always to blame for everything laughing .
      6. velikoros-xnumx 22 May 2020 13: 05 New
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        Good day, dear.
        Regarding Constantinople-Istanbul, Crimea-Krym (in the Russian Empire, he was always Taurida, which is more correct from the point of view of the history of the region). Unlike the Seljuk Turks and Ottoman Turks, Slavic tribes and later Russians occupied the territory from the Elbe to the Ural Mountains (certainly not alone, but nonetheless) for a long time, no one can name the exact period, but not less than 2000 years. Further expansion to the east beyond the Urals led to the absorption and inclusion of the peoples living there in the Moscow kingdom (hereinafter referred to as the Russian Empire). The accession was of a different nature, somewhere relatively peaceful, but somewhere not quite. At least all these peoples still live there, no one suited their genocide - the Buryats, Khakasses, Evenks, Tuvans, Nenets, Chukchi and many others. Moreover, the Russians did not interfere in the lifestyle of many of them. A vivid example of the Chukchi, Nenets, Yakuts. As they were engaged in fishing and reindeer husbandry, they are still doing it now, having at the same time a large number of benefits from the state, which I, the Russian, did not even dream of.
        Turks came to the territory of the Roman Empire (it is with the light hand of European historians the Byzantine Empire) from the territory of Central Asia, from the Turkmen steppes), without living there initially. In contrast to Russia, there was no talk of even a relatively peaceful takeover in principle. Unlike the territories annexed by Russians and for the most part without developed statehood, the Byzantine Empire and Constantinople were at that time one of the most highly developed centers of world civilization. Who are Romans? These are Kurds, Armenians, Greeks and many other peoples who inhabited this land long before the arrival of the Turks. Where are they now??? Armenians are either cut out or expelled, Kurds are in a state of cutting out, Greeks are mostly expelled, part of the territory of Cyprus is insolently occupied without any stupid things like a referendum.
        Regarding the Turks and Muslims in Russia, as you put it "from the Crimea to Yakutia", most of them are represented by Tatars and Bashkirs. Turkey certainly has an influence on these peoples, but do not overestimate it. I’ve grown, studied and worked with Tatars all my life and I’ll say that we have long become almost a single people with minimal cultural characteristics, they won’t support Turkey’s great Turkish adventures in Russia. There are a couple of charged idiots with brainwashed, but we won’t get close to mass support. And Orthodox Christians in Russia are about 90% (Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Mordovians, Udmurts, Armenians, Georgians, etc.).
        Turkey has two ways - the establishment of a sincere good dialogue with Russia, discarding its unrealistic manners with attempts to revive the former empire; or decay with a very probable loss of statehood. Life will show which path the Turkish leadership will choose ...
      7. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 13: 19 New
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        But what if the Turks tell you this? From Crimea to Yakutia?
        Tell me, but answer for the bazaar. By the way: "Our Crimea?"
      8. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 14: 05 New
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        Will they tell you that? From Crimea to Yakutia?

        but what does the Turks and Yakutia, do not confuse the language group and the citizens of Turkey, it can end badly
  13. prior 22 May 2020 12: 11 New
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    Another "Ball" drew.
    We give him gas, Akkuyu, and he draws us Circassian “wigwams”.
    Unfinished Sultan. I already forgot how his ass was saved.
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      We give him gas, Akkuyu, and he draws us Circassian “wigwams”.

      I agree. Not doing the right thing.
  14. KVU-NSVD 22 May 2020 12: 12 New
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    Politicians often say words that make a lump in their throats. It is only worth remembering that all words have a true purpose and background, and are not always as noble as words. Erdogan is no exception - Chot Nada from the Circassians in terms of undercover Turkish activities somewhere in the area
    places where they lived for centuries. "
  15. svp67 22 May 2020 12: 12 New
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    Erdogan once again showed that his ambitions have no limits and I don’t know whether it is worth saving him again if someone wants to overthrow him again ...
    And honestly, I was very indifferent to Libyan affairs, but now I wish success to the Haftar troops
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      but now I wish success to the Haftar troops

      Wish it is only useless. They will carry both the Hawtor and those who support him. By the way, they have proven more than once.
      1. svp67 22 May 2020 12: 56 New
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        Wish it is only useless. Havtor and those who support him

        Don’t give me a gop, until you rattle ...
        Assad has already been buried so many times that one can make a separate cemetery from these monuments, but he is nothing, long live ...
  16. Operator 22 May 2020 12: 34 New
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    The Circassians were not expelled from the Russian Empire, but by mutual consent were transferred to the Ottoman Empire, which settled them in the Middle East in order to combat Arab separatism.

    So there is nothing for the Turks to pour crocodile tears over the Circassians.
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    Quote: AzDefence2020
    Quote: fruit_cake
    what about the expelled Syrians

    They themselves left. Because cowards. They don’t know how to fight. Love an easy life. These are not my words, but the words of the prophet Muhammad himself, only I wrote in a more intelligible language. The same picture is with the Iraqis.

    Are you a colleague bot-Cossack sent to us?
  18. ssnyper2007 22 May 2020 13: 16 New
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    Turks are bad - we are good and vice versa ... As Palmerston said, there are no permanent allies, there are constant interests (and a geopolitical context). It is profitable for us to convince the Sultan against NATO - tourism, tomatoes, S-400 begins. Unprofitable - Armenians, tourism x 0, Kurds to Wellcome.
    The Sultan sees the opportunity and acts - this goes against our interests - it is necessary to explain in an accessible way that you should not think that he and the Turkish military are descendants of Duncan McCloud. And finally, it’s tough to do it, reckoning neither with “public opinion”, nor with anything like the same Jews.
  19. Kapellan23 22 May 2020 13: 29 New
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    Erdogan does not want to remember the transfer by the Bolsheviks of the Kars region from Russia and the support of Kemal?
  20. Junior Private 22 May 2020 13: 38 New
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    Cheap national-genetic show-offs of Erdogan Pasha, sooner or later, come across not only in the tomato trade. The Ottomans were already embroiled in a military showdown, which is now not known when they will end and whether they will end at all. Everything else is spoiled relations with democracies, a very difficult situation in the economy, and one should not forget about the unsociable supporters of Gulen - it's time to shut up in order to pass for the clever.
  21. tekinoral 22 May 2020 13: 43 New
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    Turks time to get out of Constantinople.

    Come and take it away, and when will you get out of the Rhodope Mountains?
  22. Junior Private 22 May 2020 13: 46 New
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    Quote: AzDefence2020
    Quote: svp67
    but now I wish success to the Haftar troops

    Wish it is only useless. They will carry both the Hawtor and those who support him.

    Unfortunately, this issue will be resolved without your participation. Like all similar issues with Armenians, Circassians, Kurds, etc.
  23. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 13: 51 New
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    Quote: Erodogan
    "I share the pain of our Circassian brothers, who faced exile from their homeland 156 years ago."

    share the Kurds pain
  24. tekinoral 22 May 2020 13: 52 New
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    There, the Russians kick you so that you remember a thousand years. And the Turks and their Turkic sixes. And then the peacefully plowed tractor will turn on the afterburner and retire into orbit ... laughing[/ Q
    And does the Bulgarian write this?
  25. tekinoral 22 May 2020 13: 58 New
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    share the pain of the Kurds [/ quote]
    don't you share
  26. Junior Private 22 May 2020 13: 59 New
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    Quote: tekinoral

    Come and take it away, and when will you get out of the Rhodope Mountains?

    Are the markets still quarantined?
  27. Andrey Ostroushko 22 May 2020 14: 00 New
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    "I share the pain of our Circassian brothers, who faced exile from their homeland 156 years ago." But the moustached cockroach does not share the pain of 1,5 million Armenians slaughtered by his relatives in 1915?
  28. 7,62h54 22 May 2020 14: 04 New
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    Nobody forcibly drove them out of Russia. The Circassians still could not calm down and traded robbery and massacre. What the then Russian emperor answered several times with military expeditions. The proud highlanders were driven from the mountains into rotten reeds, where they sat for several years, dying of malaria. Until part of the tribes bowed to their feet and accepted the citizenship of the Russian Empire, and part, especially stubborn barmaley, did not leave Russia.
    Erdogan would better remember how he cut out Armenians and Greeks.
    1. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 14: 44 New
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      Expeditions were constant on auls ... forced to evict. Then it was populated by the Russian population, Cossacks and refugees from Turkey.
      One way or another, it was not the Highlanders who invaded the empire, but the empire came out to the warm sea. The story is the same as the Indians of America.
      1. 7,62h54 22 May 2020 14: 50 New
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        It could not be otherwise. For example, the Tatars, after the next capture of the Kazan Kremlin, took up their heads and began to assert themselves peacefully, integrating into the society and economy of Russia. No one interfered with the mountaineers doing this.
      2. reservist 22 May 2020 15: 52 New
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        The story is the same as the Indians of America.

        and what empire of the Indians of America were evicted?
        1. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 15: 59 New
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          About the same as the northern peoples like the Chukchi .. but harder of course.
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            Are these the very ones who, in the code of laws of the Russian Empire, belonged to peoples “not completely subjugated”, who “pay yasak, in whatever quantity and quality they wish”?
  29. Ru_Na 22 May 2020 14: 13 New
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    Erdogan should be reminded of what the Turks did with the Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Armenians, Kurds!
    1. tekinoral 22 May 2020 14: 41 New
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      Erdogan should be reminded of what the Turks did with the Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Armenians, Kurds!

      Have you seen? Or a historian?
      1. Ru_Na 22 May 2020 19: 15 New
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        I want to disappoint you, I am a historian by training, so I know what I'm writing about, unlike you!
        1. Oquzyurd 22 May 2020 22: 28 New
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          "I’m a historian by training" I hope that when it comes to the realization that you were deceiving yourself. But for this you will have to look not only at local books, but at different sources, contrast, analyze, discuss it yourself, then draw conclusions. The historian, this is how he can get to this title, and not just in the diploma ...
        2. tekinoral 22 May 2020 22: 29 New
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          I am a historian by training,

          Then you must by definition know that there was no genocide! wink
    2. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 14: 46 New
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      The main thing is that the peoples themselves would remember this and be grateful to the country that liberated and saved them.
      1. tekinoral 22 May 2020 17: 04 New
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        [quote = Zaurbek] The main thing is that the peoples themselves would remember this and be grateful to the country that liberated and saved them [/
        Still sucking, elder?
        1. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 17: 19 New
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          Commenting .... to whom should I suck?
  30. tekinoral 22 May 2020 14: 40 New
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    Quote: tekinoral

    Come and take it away, and when will you get out of the Rhodope Mountains?

    Are the markets still quarantined?

    I have money and not bad, even helped the site! Have you helped the site?
  31. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 14: 40 New
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    At least someone remembered. And then thanks.
  32. veritas 22 May 2020 14: 51 New
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    It would be necessary to resolve the issue of how we should not become unemployed. Mr. President, let us continue our business in the coming days.

    An urgent issue for both Russia and us, too, they like to look towards history and remember the Polovtsy, Pechenegs. Coincidence? The stylistics of politicians are similar.
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      Quote: veritas
      An urgent issue for both Russia and us, too, they like to look towards history and remember the Polovtsy, Pechenegs. Coincidence? The stylistics of politicians are similar.

      Actually, this is from the speech of Plevako who participated in the defense of the old woman, whose fault was the theft of a tin teapot worth 50 cents. The prosecutor turned up about the sacred property and, if you let people encroach on it, the country will die.
      In response, Plevako spoke:
      - Russia had to endure many troubles and trials for its more than a thousand-year existence. Pechenegs tormented her, Polovtsy, Tatars, Poles. Twelve languages ​​fell upon her, took Moscow. She endured everything, Russia overcame everything, only grew stronger and grew from trials. But now, now ... the old woman stole a kettle for fifty cents. Of course, Russia will not be able to withstand this, it will perish forever.
      So, the Polovechens with the Pechenegs are just subtle trolling from Putin. And we must pay tribute to him, many fell for him.
  33. faterdom 22 May 2020 15: 16 New
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    Yes, the issue to be resolved - they are ready to correct what they have done. Once Tsarist Russia expelled, then the next time it will be Tsarist again, it will be possible to return. Only without any repatriations - an exam in Russian, an oath to the Tsar, work for the good of Russia, living in the area where Moscow-Petersburg will be allocated without any. Children are full citizens.
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      Quote: faterdom
      living on the site where Moscow-Petersburg will be allocated without any there.

      Is it possible in Sochi? We still have a tradition from the USSR - when the Armenians flee from Azerbaijanis, or vice versa, then they both settle in Sochi ... repeat
  34. Voltsky 22 May 2020 15: 37 New
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    The Lord should be reminded that all this was and not only in Russia and also everywhere. I advise you to accept this and not consider yourself or other saints, or ghouls and bloodsuckers.
  35. qobnvmog 22 May 2020 15: 48 New
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    This is historical truth; Empire behaves as it should empire, ruthlessly towards the conquered. The Russian authorities paid the Turks for the deportation of the Circassians to Turkey.
    Only Erdogan forgot to recall that the Turks were thrown out of greed in order to earn more, half-way around the Circassians and returning for the next. Taking advantage of the hopeless situation of defenseless people. There is evidence of this.
  36. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 16: 02 New
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    In their new homeland, the Circassians performed the same functions as the Cossacks in the Russian Federation .... they shot them on the outskirts of the empire. And attracted to suppress bouquets in Turkey itself. And not only.
    1. slipped 22 May 2020 16: 19 New
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      Not only.


      I look here almost all commentators do not understand the topic. The "Circassians of Erdogan" are not Circassians from Karachay-Cherkessia. laughing Circassians were called all the small nationalities inhabiting the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus in the areas of Sochi, Lazarevsky, Tuapse, Arkhipo-Osipovka and to Taman. After their native "rebellious villages", where the campaign for rebellion was carried out by the English ombudsmen, were practically destroyed by the tsarist troops, some of them went to the plains of the Kuban and became Circassians (yes, that same Maikop), some moved to Turkey and on. The former retained their culture and language, the latter assimilated.
      1. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 17: 04 New
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        Circassians are Circassians-Adyghe-Kabardins ....
        They expelled everyone from the mountains, part of the Ubykh and Abtzin tribes completely disappeared. Some of the Chechens and Dagestanis were resettled ...
      2. Zaurbek 22 May 2020 17: 18 New
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        Maykop, a Russian fortress ..... became the capital of Adygea under the USSR, as did Grozny.
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          Quote: Zaurbek
          Maykop, a Russian fortress ..... became the capital of Adygea under the USSR, as did Grozny.

          Even when the Cossacks founded Grozny in the Tsarist Empire, read Lermontov, etc. Well, I didn’t hear anything about Adygea in history .. During Soviet times, dancing and history were dancing and history, like other peoples of the USSR ..
          Now no one knows that such nations existed .. Feel the difference!
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            Read books ... The Caucasian war ended in Adygea ... and the only place where the Russian fortifications were attacked and taken was also here.
        2. 26rus 22 May 2020 19: 54 New
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          Maykop, a Russian fortress ..... became the capital of Adygea under the USSR, as did Grozny.

          Like Cherkessk.
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            Yes. Like Cherkessk.
  37. faterdom 22 May 2020 16: 11 New
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    In their new homeland, the Circassians performed the same functions as the Cossacks in the Russian Federation .... they shot them on the outskirts of the empire. And attracted to suppress bouquets in Turkey itself. And not only.

    Well, I didn’t shoot, let’s put it, but I resettled. And then, how to say ... The elite guard of the King of Jordan is the Circassians, not the outskirts in any way.
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      Jordan and Israel - Outskirts of the Ottoman Empire
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    And about the destruction of the Armenian people, by the Turks, Erdogan for some reason never remembers ....
  39. Radius 22 May 2020 17: 33 New
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    Adygs and other highlanders were treated the way they deserved. They offered them ... Persuaded. They promised a lot. But the proud and stupid decided that it was more convenient to live by predation. Those who are smarter, have integrated themselves quite well and live well and prosper in hated Russia, in contrast to blessed Turkey, where they stupidly stupid.
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    Commenting .... to whom should I suck?

    pluses pluses smile
  41. Dmitry Shilling 23 May 2020 01: 25 New
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    A man still lives in the 19th century, what to take from him, there are no current problems, but most likely, the one who recalls history in order to give a pundel to the ass of another state is either a hint at something, or an excuse is needed for exacerbation
  42. Revolver 23 May 2020 09: 19 New
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    But can Erdogan remember the Armenian Genocide? And the fact that he has been doing with the Kurds in recent years is also quite genocidal.
  43. APAHAKC 23 May 2020 10: 00 New
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    Turks were Turks will remain
  44. another RUSICH 23 May 2020 10: 35 New
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    The topic is well known to me.
    Circassians, or rather, the Adyghe were not expelled. They themselves left, expecting that they would be better off in a "brotherly" Islamic Turkey, which they regretted very much later, because no one was waiting for them there. More than a million Adyghe emigrated, of which most died there from starvation.
    So let it be better to remember how the Turks starved hundreds of thousands of co-religionists!
  45. Lord of the Sith 23 May 2020 18: 17 New
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    Oh, let not tryndit, the Circassians or Adygeis were so persecuted and humiliated in Russia that they even created a republic within Russia.

    May remember the genocide by the Turks of the Armenians, huh?
  46. Proximo 24 May 2020 16: 03 New
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    To whom, but not the Turks, to depict compassion for the Circassian peoples, exported mostly to the territory of the Port. Everyone forgot that the harems in Turkey were immediately filled with girls from the Caucasus, how many Circassians did not swim to the coast of Turkey at all? All this is hypocrisy and nothing more. The Turks made excellent use of this relocation for their (different) purposes without regard to the interests of these peoples. That is why we no longer hear about Natukhais, Shapsugs, Ubykhs, Ahchipsou, etc. They disappeared not in the Caucasus, but in the expanses of the Ottoman Empire. It would be better if they moved to the plains of the Kuban and survived ...
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