Nebenzya: If not for the coup in Ukraine, Crimea would have remained where it was until 2014

Nebenzya: If not for the coup in Ukraine, Crimea would have remained where it was until 2014

Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya commented on another attack against Russia on the issue of reunification with Crimea. It all started with the fact that during the meeting of the UN Security Council "with the participation of representatives of civil society", the permanent representatives of several European countries declared the non-recognition of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation. These permanent representatives are diplomats from France, Germany, the Czech Republic, as well as a diplomat from the European Union.


Responding to the attack from the series “we do not recognize the entry of the Crimean peninsula into Russia and believe that its accession by Russia is a violation of international standards,” Vasily Nebenzya reminded the interlocutors of how it all began.

The Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation made a reference to the beginning of 2014 and noted that Ukraine itself had opened the way for Crimeans to a referendum on the issue of self-determination.

Vasily Nebenzya:

Ukrainians have no one to blame but themselves.

The Russian diplomat also reminded the French and German colleagues that it was the representatives of the Foreign Ministries of these countries, along with the Polish Foreign Ministry, who in February 2014 acted as guarantors of the agreement between the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych and the opposition.

Vasily Nebenzya:

But the opposition violated these guarantees the very next day.

As is known, no measures were taken by the guarantors then. Both Germany, and France, and Poland have eliminated themselves.

Nebenzya recalled that the opposition carried out an armed seizure of power in the country, forcing Yanukovych to save his life.

Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN:

If then none of this had happened, then today Crimea would have remained where it was until 2014.

After that, Vasily Nebenzya urged the participants in the meeting not to build judgments without having listened to those who live in Crimea now.
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  1. Alexey Sommer 22 May 2020 08: 06 New
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    Locally, for the coup, you can say thank you in that case.
    People are just sorry. We left all the rest in Ukraine.
    And they are not enough.
    And this is just our land.
    1. AzDefence2020 22 May 2020 08: 11 New
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      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      People are just sorry. We left all the rest in Ukraine.

      A certain part of the people from the burg, in a matter of days, made 2 fraternal peoples enemies. It is not right. What the Soviet Union built over the years, the architects of dirty politics destroyed.
      1. maykl8 22 May 2020 08: 25 New
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        Yeah !? But what about the "brotherly people"? All videos until 2014.


        1. Insurgent 22 May 2020 08: 43 New
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          Quote: maykl8
          But what about the "brotherly people"? All videos until 2014.


          A video from E. Limonov who left us long before 2014 (1992) about Ukraine.

          1. Alexey Sommer 22 May 2020 09: 14 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            A video from E. Limonov who left us long before 2014 (1992) about Ukraine.

            Brilliant answer.
        2. Ravil_Asnafovich 22 May 2020 08: 55 New
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          I fucked up such good songs, then I can only express myself non-literally.
          1. Terenin 22 May 2020 09: 55 New
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            Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
            I fucked up such good songs, then I can only express myself non-literally.

            And where did they get their literature, art, poetry ...
            Ah, yes, the local "poetess" Nastyukha Dmitruk with her "We Will Never Be Brothers"? fool
            Only steal and defile everything
            1. major147 22 May 2020 10: 14 New
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              Quote: Terenin
              local "poetess" Nastyukha Dmitruk with her "We will never be brothers"?

              And with a later "Masks are ripped off, there is no one to believe."
              Masks are ripped off - no one to believe. Birds are breaking on ice. Hastened to a new, brighter - a careless flight ended. Who is in power - everyone is bought, sold, our hundreds fall in a row. Instead of storks, there are crows in the sky. Souls of light do not burn.

              And sums up:
              Masks are ripped off. false soums, hail, mines, battle after battle. Only we are no longer playful. Now we are predators.
              1. Chigi 22 May 2020 22: 06 New
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                The poetess is lying ... in fact, like this
                "Masks are ripped off. Sou-ki are false, hail, mines, battle after battle.
                Only we are not playful anymore.
                Now we are each for himself. "

                Predators ... HaHa ...
                Scavengers for whom the Vultures are ashamed to be called the same.
        3. Campanella 22 May 2020 09: 20 New
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          Kissel sits neighing ....
          Orestes, of course, is a fool!
        4. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 09: 58 New
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          Quote: maykl8
          Yeah !? But what about the "brotherly people"? All videos until 2014.

          Do you think the characters from the video are the people of Ukraine?
          1. your1970 22 May 2020 12: 29 New
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            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Quote: maykl8
            Yeah !? But what about the "brotherly people"? All videos until 2014.

            Do you think the characters from the video are the people of Ukraine?
            -
            1) In fact, even 1 person out of a billion people in China is a people ... it’s not strange ..
            2) These videos are watched by millions. The problem is that they find their target audience ....
            House-2 has its own target audience - not me, not you, not 99,9% of VO readers, but nonetheless they are watching, otherwise the project would have been closed long ago due to lack of interest

            And yes, this is also a people, alas, but this is so: both people watching these videos and people watching House-2 are people .... And you really can’t do anything about it ...
            Clean House -2 - some Comedy or Naked and Funny will watch
            1. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 13: 03 New
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              Quote: your1970

              2) These videos are watched by millions. The problem is that they find their target audience ....

              1 Watching these videos does not mean sharing the opinions of his characters.
              2. These videos are watched not only and not so much sharing their opinion, but for the sake of idle interest - but what is there?
              Someone looked completely, someone part, and someone turned off after the first phrases. But they are all recorded - look! The people are watching! So what?!
              "Rollers watch millions," so what? Of these millions, the target audience is 1 thousand people. AND?
              You do not want to understand that it is not in them. The matter is in power. And they do not form power.
              The people of Ukraine chose the president? No! He was chosen not by those in the commercials, but by completely different ones and they slipped them on to a trusting voter. And these videos did not play in any way when the people chose the president.
              1. your1970 22 May 2020 13: 51 New
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                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                The people of Ukraine chose the president? No! He was chosen not by those in the commercials, but by completely different ones and they slipped them on to a trusting voter. And these videos did not play in any way when the people chose the president.
                -that is, 40 million "gullible voters" of Ukraine were not able to at least minimally see what kind of garbage they palm off ???
                Very convenient - then bleat: "We were deceived / betrayed / set up !!" ... or "us again ... of that !!!!"
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                  Pug 22 May 2020 14: 06 New
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                  Quote: your1970
                  -that is, 40 million "gullible voters" of Ukraine were not able to at least minimally see what kind of garbage they palm off ???

                  So yes, but we in Russia were also not badly divorced in the 90s ..
                  Quote: your1970
                  Very convenient - then bleat: "We were deceived / betrayed / set up !!" ... or "us again ... that !!!!"

                  You are right about this and again Russia save and help .. We are not to blame, etc. That everything was destroyed and plundered, that the whole Soviet Union was built and worked somewhere in the Urals and Siberia for your well-being, etc.
                  It's a shame, but you can’t give in .. More of this will not be "brothers." As Bandera soak and others themselves !!!!! ..Here then contact and then we’ll think negative

                  A joke, but still, everything is tired !!!
                2. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 14: 21 New
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                  Quote: your1970
                  -that is, 40 million "gullible voters" of Ukraine were not able to at least minimally see what kind of garbage they palm off ???

                  Able. But ... Did they have a choice? Was! - Poroshenko! Would you choose him? And here is 40 million. the gullible chose hope. Did they lose? No. Because if they chose Poroshenko, they would get the same thing.
                  This once again proves that not 40 million are chosen. They only legitimize, legitimize, someone's choice. Whose, guess for yourself.
                  By the way, in Russia everything is the same. Whether you like it or not.
                  1. your1970 22 May 2020 14: 29 New
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                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Did they have a choice? Was! - Poroshenko! Would you choose him?

                    1) Poroshenko was chosen in the 1st round - 3, in 2 - 4 million people
                    2) I tried to count possible candidates, counted 20 and lost ....
                    3) Zelensky-hope? In how ... man without his team is a politician ... much ....

                    ZY, you can watch the video 1 time, the second time you don’t like it will not open. And here are SEVERAL videos and EVERYONE has a lot of views, it’s already target the audience is watching a particular character. I already gave an example with House -2 ...
                    1. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 15: 17 New
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                      Quote: your1970

                      2) I tried to count possible candidates, counted 20 and lost ....

                      And among them - you. Did you have any hope of becoming a leader?
                      Well, with what a fright would people vote for a complete stranger?
                      Quote: your1970

                      3) Zelensky-hope? In how ... a person without his team is a politician ... strongly ....

                      All is correct. But where did you get the idea that 100% or at least 50% of voters should understand politics? He said, "I am good and I will bring peace to the country." And that’s all. That's why they vote on a whim. Does it surprise you? I'm not at all. And I advise you to take it for granted. And in my thoughts to proceed from this. - The vast majority of people do not understand politics. From the word at all.
                      We are not very good either.
                      Otherwise, you would not ask stupid questions, and I did not try to answer them unsuccessfully.
                      1. your1970 22 May 2020 21: 21 New
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                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        He said, "I am good and I will bring peace to the country." And that’s all. That's why they vote on a whim. Does this surprise you?
                        -Trouble is that it contradicts this
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Well, with what a fright people will vote for a complete stranger?
                        .
                        I can also promise "Peace in Ukraine. Fat is not less than 7 centimeters with meat layers. And visa-free to everyone"
                        Anyway, on a whim? Not?
                      2. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 21: 40 New
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                        Quote: your1970
                        -Trouble is that it contradicts this
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Well, with what a fright would people vote for a complete stranger?

                        Is this a stranger? He is unfamiliar to us, but in Ukraine he is very famous. Known, incidentally, for his criticism of Poroshenko and the company.
                        Quote: your1970

                        I can also promise "Peace in Ukraine. Fat is not less than 7 centimeters with meat layers. And visa-free to everyone"
                        Anyway, on a whim? Not?

                        Can you, only who will listen to you? Because you are a passerby on the street. And only friends and relatives know you. It’s not enough to vote for you, despite your promises. Even if you promise heaven on earth.
        5. Voyager 22 May 2020 12: 30 New
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          The people of Ukraine are very different depending on the regions. So partly yes, the video also includes representatives of the people of Ukraine and their opinions. My relatives in the Crimea were born and, as far as I can remember, they said that this Ukrainian bomb would ever explode. Back in the 90s and 2000s, they were practically predicting what is happening today, except that they could not dream of how Crimea would return home. All this rubbish came for decades, was rude and imposed its language in schools and "life". Both bureaucrats and representatives of the usual so-called people.
        6. maykl8 22 May 2020 20: 41 New
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          From my experience in communicating with Ukrainians, there are a lot of such people. The rest live by the principle of "My hut from the edge ...". Otherwise, this "fierce" would be sentenced for life for inciting.
          And this freak would be given to Russia in 1995.

          And they would not have secretly sent Ukrainian military personnel with the Buk complex to Georgia to fire at our aircraft in 2008.
          And now they are asking with surprise, “What about us?”
          1. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 21: 49 New
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            Quote: maykl8

            From my experience in communicating with Ukrainians, there are a lot of such people. The rest live by the principle of "My hut from the edge ...". Otherwise, this "fierce" would be sentenced for life for inciting.
            And this freak would be given to Russia in 1995.

            Is it a people, "of which there are many," who must "judge" and "betray"? Or power?
            When talking about Ukraine, divide the people and the government. By the way, in Russia the same way. Power, this is power, and the people, this is the people.
            1. maykl8 22 May 2020 22: 43 New
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              In Russia they say: "What is pop, such is the parish." Power in Ukraine is not from a neighboring galaxy.
              “Unfortunately, there is no one to blame Ukrainians except themselves, because it was they who created the prerequisites for the referendum of 2014”, (Nebenzya.)
              1. Krasnoyarsk 23 May 2020 09: 41 New
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                Quote: maykl8
                In Russia they say: "What is pop, such is the parish." Power in Ukraine is not from a neighboring galaxy.
                “Unfortunately, there is no one to blame Ukrainians except themselves, because it was they who created the prerequisites for the referendum of 2014”, (Nebenzya.)

                You also do not understand the essence of what has been said. Nebenzya, saying "Ukrainians" had in mind precisely the power, and not the people. And yes, in this sense, it is Ukraine (the government) who is to blame for the fact that it “created the prerequisites”. After all, not ordinary citizens of Ukraine initiated the closure of Russian-language schools, (translating them into the Ukrainian language of instruction), and much more. Power did all this!
                1. maykl8 23 May 2020 20: 39 New
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                  From my personal communication with "ordinary citizens of Ukraine" I know that: 1.Ukraine feeds Russia. 2.Russian drunk and lazy, and Ukrainians are smart and hardworking. 3.Ukrainian language is the most melodious in the world, and the Russians staged a famine. etc. etc. And that's all from the 80s of the last century. Now everything is even worse.
                  The performance of the anthem of Ukraine by the peoples inhabiting it to the 20th anniversary of independence. Feel the difference and find the loafer and the rogue.




                  1. Krasnoyarsk 23 May 2020 21: 44 New
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                    Quote: maykl8

                    From my personal communication with "ordinary citizens of Ukraine" I know that: 1.Ukraine feeds Russia. 2.Russian drunk and lazy

                    Birds of a feather flock together. Therefore, you ended up in such a company.
                    And about the anthem, so you pay them and they will sing the anthem of Russia.
    2. venik 22 May 2020 08: 50 New
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      Quote: AzDefence2020
      A certain part of the people from the burg, in a matter of days, made 2 fraternal peoples enemies.

      =======
      Alas! You're not right! Not for the "few days." Naglo-Saxons and Co. conducted their active policy of inciting peoples against each other for a very long time, from the very collapse of the Union (in fact, much earlier): "grant-eaters" were educated, nationalists of different stripes were fed, pseudo-scientific ideas were thrown (ethnos, history, sociology), corrupt elites bribed (including by controlling the banking sector) ...... It didn’t work out everywhere ..... But in Ukraine it was a “ride” ... It's not for nothing that THEY boasted that they “invested in development "democracy" in Ukraine " 5 billion bucks!
      1. New Year day 22 May 2020 09: 33 New
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        Quote: venik
        Naglosaksa and Co. conducted their active policy of inciting peoples against each other for a very long time, since the collapse of the Union

        Who prevented Russia from doing this?
        Quote: venik
        "invested in the development of" democracy "in Ukraine" 5 billion. Bucks!

        Once, Medvedev said that Russia has invested $ 200 billion in Ukraine. But not received! How could it happen that, having all the resources, being at hand, Russia was able to lose this battle? Without understanding this, there will be no success not in Ukraine, not in Belarus!
        1. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 10: 06 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          Who prevented Russia from doing this?

          You might think that you do not know, "there is no money, but ..."
          Quote: Silvestr
          Once, Medvedev said that Russia has invested $ 200 billion in Ukraine. But not received! How could it happen that having everyone

          And here you know the answer - Invested, but not there. Investing in "Ukraine" actually invested in the oligarchy of Ukraine, which, led from the outside, ultimately led to the Maidan.
        2. Lopatov 22 May 2020 11: 09 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          Who prevented Russia from doing this?

          What to do?
          Set nations against each other?
          Why did we need to do this?

          Quote: Silvestr
          Once, Medvedev said that Russia has invested $ 200 billion in Ukraine. But not received! How could it happen that, having all the resources, being at hand, Russia was able to lose this battle?

          Everything is extremely simple. Russia tried to build the United States-to break. The second is much simpler.
          1. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 22: 04 New
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            Quote: Spade

            What to do?
            Set nations against each other?
            Why did we need to do this?

            You, Lopatov, do not understand anything.
            Russia had to support the "Russian parties", all kinds of "Russian centers", work with youth, as our sworn "partners" worked. It was with their money that the future leaders of the fives, tens, hundreds and thousands of future participants of the Maidan were preparing in Polish and Baltic camps. Maidan was distinguished by a clear organization and discipline. And anti-Maidan? Confusion and reeling. So there you go.
            Russia did not support a single Russian-language publication, not a single Russian-language television channel. But she could. Promote the friendship of Russia and Ukraine on these channels. But she gave the matter of propaganda to our sworn "partners."
            Having spared money then, Russia now spends more on neutralizing the hostility of Ukraine towards Russia.
            1. Lopatov 23 May 2020 08: 32 New
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              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Russia was supposed to support the "Russian parties", all kinds of "Russian centers", work with youth

              And it will not give anything.
              For
              Quote: Spade
              Russia tried to build the United States-to break. The second is much simpler.
              1. Krasnoyarsk 23 May 2020 09: 44 New
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                Quote: Spade

                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Russia was supposed to support the "Russian parties", all kinds of "Russian centers", work with youth

                And it will not give anything.

                Why did the Americans give it?
        3. Slavs 22 May 2020 11: 43 New
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          Quote: Silvestr
          How could it happen that, having all the resources, being at hand, Russia was able to lose this battle?

          The greed of the elites, the creation of conditions when everyone thinks about his pocket, is not up to state interests ...
          And now they are taking all measures to eliminate the remnants of patriotism ...
          And the very word patriotism was turned into an insult, here in the comments you can often hear - cheers patriot ...
          Interestingly, in the United States, too, teasing each other with jingoism?
    3. Alexey Sommer 22 May 2020 09: 03 New
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      Quote: AzDefence2020
      A certain part of the people from the burg, in a matter of days, made 2 fraternal peoples enemies

      Here, in my opinion, you are fundamentally wrong.
      From behind the hill only helped. This was done by our people (for example Khrushchev), for at least 25 years (the Russian Federation criminally condoned this) and not fraternal peoples, but divided a single people.
      Betrayal, in a word.
      1. your1970 22 May 2020 12: 34 New
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        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        Betrayal, in a word.
        - Again ?? it’s very convenient to blame everything on betrayal .. "They betrayed us and we are accordingly not to blame!" - Pts is easy and convenient ...
        To me in 1988, the "Ternopilsky" said that Ridna Nenko feeds the entire USSR .... Khrushchev taught them too belay ?? simple conscript soldiers from collective farms ?? or vsezh still this attitude was in the family, on the street, then the neighbors had there?
        1. Krasnoyarsk 22 May 2020 22: 08 New
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          Quote: your1970

          To me in 1988 "Ternopil" said that Ridna Nenko feeds the whole USSR .... Khrushchev taught them too belay ?? ordinary conscripts from

          So what? The Baltic states said the same thing. And Azerbaijanis won thanks to OUR OIL. And we heard that. So what? Pay attention to the words of individual individuals? Stupid.
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      1. stalki 22 May 2020 09: 42 New
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        Nonsense, moreover, ancient Russian land and peoples are not fraternal? No need to sculpt what is not. Yes, we were almost no different.
        1. Lopatov 22 May 2020 11: 19 New
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          Quote: stalki
          Old Russian land

          laughing laughing
          If you look at history with an unashamed gaze, Ukraine has always been a "passing pennant."
          The Khazars seized, the Rurikovich took, the Mongol-Tatars were taken from them, the Litvinians were taken from them. But at the same time they overstrained and presented it to the Poles, they gave it, and partially sold it to Russia. Russia held until it collapsed, the Germans took advantage of Ukraine, the Poles bit off a piece, but the Soviets returned it to themselves. But in the end, too, fell apart.
          And suddenly “sovereign Ukraine” appeared. Which immediately began to look for whom to give control of themselves to the cries of "want to NATO, the EU and lace panties"
          1. stalki 22 May 2020 11: 33 New
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            Well, curvy is just laughing well, okay, there were normal ones, well, you’re not an optimist at all crying
            1. Lopatov 22 May 2020 11: 43 New
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              Quote: stalki
              well, okay, there were normal ones, well, you’re not an optimist at all

              It is “not an optimist” and therefore I can only wish for normal things — to save up money and leave for an adequate country with a future. In any. Even Belarus with all its problems is better.
              1. your1970 22 May 2020 12: 42 New
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                Quote: Spade
                Quote: stalki
                well, okay, there were normal ones, well, you’re not an optimist at all

                It is “not an optimist” and therefore I can only wish for normal things — to save up money and leave for an adequate country with a future. In any. Even Belarus with all its problems is better.
                - I will support ..
                as long as Russia exists, the US will not give anyone a quiet life there. Hitler will not be there, it is dangerous for America - uncontrollable leader thing is so slippery ....
                And there will be anyone at the level of Poroshchenka / Zelensky - who does not let Russia feel calm.
                In such a situation - the population will not have to live peacefully there ... "there will be no war but there will be such a struggle for peace that there will be no stone unturned" ...
                What we have been observing for 6 years
                1. Lopatov 22 May 2020 15: 59 New
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                  Quote: your1970
                  as long as Russia exists, the US will not give anyone a quiet life there.

                  The point is not in Russia, the point is different ... The point is in the USSR
                  They are afraid of his rebirth to wet pants, and are ready to blow water:
                  “We are noting a certain shift towards re-Sovietization of the region. But, of course, it will not be called that way. It will be called the Customs Union, the Eurasian Union or something like that. We know what the goal is, and we are trying devise effective ways to slow it down or prevent it"(c) H. Clinton
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                    Quote: Spade
                    The point is not in Russia, the point is different ... The point is in the USSR
                    They are afraid of his rebirth to wet pants, and are ready to blow water:

                    Shovels from the bottom of your heart plus you for this statement !!! Indeed, it is ..SSSR revival, in this situation it will be a terrible dream of all the swindlers and haters of Russia and Russophobes .. How they shake at the very same mention ..
                    There will be a different format and the former "brothers!" already such a status will not have .. Ask for their behavior, etc.
                    The so-called debriefing will be with "closed doors and borders" ..

                    We won’t scatter this time ... negative
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          1. stalki 22 May 2020 12: 44 New
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            Where is Lenin and where did the beginning begin? Rhetorical. laughing laughing laughing
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      Quote: AzDefence2020
      A certain part of the people from the burg, in a matter of days, made 2 fraternal peoples enemies.

      The fact that this happened in a matter of days is an illusion, dear.
      In a matter of days, our eyes opened and we saw the result of many years of thoughtful work by US intelligence agencies. This is a good example of how water sharpens a stone. The Americans thoroughly studied the soil they sowed their ugly grain. The presence of spineless and venal power in Ukraine has allowed this seed of seedlings to bear fruit. And if they had not seen the prospects for success, they would not have invested billions of dollars in this operation. Apparently, their operation will go down in history as one of the most successful, and will be taught (or perhaps already taught) to train personnel to undermine the sovereignty of other countries.
      And Russia at that time was sleeping peacefully, and was occupied with its own problems, until it saw that the enemy was at the gates, and that there was a real risk of the appearance of a US Navy base in Sevastopol. After that, we could live to the point of having to ask permission from America and from NATO for ships to enter the Black Sea.
  2. u123uuu 22 May 2020 08: 16 New
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    They were thrown by the drunk Borka, but not the people. Who could without blood (Crimea) Putin pulled out. Alas, not everyone (Donbass), but there were reasons and conditions .. Putin is a cool strategist, but alas, it seems that war or harsh decisions in that spirit is not his.
    1. Alexey Sommer 22 May 2020 08: 25 New
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      Putin is a cool strategist, but alas it seems that war or harsh decisions in that spirit is not his

      I can’t agree that he is a strategist ..
      Well, it doesn’t.
      That we took Crimea, that all of Ukraine, the consequences would be the same now. Only neither the Nord Stream nor the Turkish would need to be built now.
      And by the way, and now it’s not too late to take your own. Only the brains of the Seluk will have to solder longer now.
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        1. Alexey Sommer 22 May 2020 08: 35 New
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          How old are you, what terms do you judge?

          48, and you?
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        1. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 08: 47 New
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          Quote: Insurgent
          But to solve the problem of the Outskirts, Russia will have to do it anyway, how much do not put this matter aside.

          Yes, every year it will be more difficult to do, because the Soviet people leave, and instead they grow Bandera and Natsik.
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          but then Rotenberg would have been left without a Hero Star ...

          It's not about Rotenberg, it happened along the way.
          But thank him even for that.
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          But to solve the problem of the Outskirts, Russia will have to do it anyway, how much do not put this matter aside "..

          ... and the farther, the more expensive in every sense
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        That we took Crimea, that all of Ukraine, the consequences would be the same now

        No, not the same! It would not be possible to take all of Ukraine without blood. And that stopped ... IMHO. Left until better times, let it cross itself ...
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          Left until better times, let it cross itself ...

          It has already been translated. In Croatia, in Bosnia.
          But Russia is not Serbia. We are potentially powerful, except for impotent politicians. You have to take yours.
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          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          That we took Crimea, that all of Ukraine, the consequences would be the same now

          No, not the same! It would not be possible to take all of Ukraine without blood. And that stopped ... IMHO. Left until better times, let it cross itself ...

          Yes, that would be a victory .... but Pyrrova. If Russia had come to Ukraine, they would have climbed up on us, saying that they were preventing you from going to a bright future in Europe, and even with the West they would have had problems incomparable with today. And so, let them be ill.
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          And how are your Jews different from ours? The fact that both of them act not in the interests of the country of residence. You are embittered with us because your Jews told you so. Ours told us so. Maybe the whole thing is that you need to listen less, but what to do?
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              Ivan Vasilyevich, when you say, it feels like you are raving
              (film "Ivan Vasilievich Changes the Profession")
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          No Akim will not allow. One way or another, you have too much of our land and sooner or later we will return it to ourselves. And for the price we will not stand not yours not yours. It is bitter but it is.
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            1. bondrostov 22 May 2020 09: 59 New
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              In the world of rule, power will rule. So I won’t breed srach. Whether we can return our time or not will show time. So see you on the battlefield.
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              .Bodya Khmelnitsky, go and turn over in a coffin - forgive the Ukrainians, did not know what I was doing)

              Bogdan Khmelnitsky, who for some time was with the Poles “on one leg”, and when they “threw” him, he suddenly became “anti-Polish” and “pro-Russian”?

              Yes, actually not for you, "a broad Ukrainian patriot" on whose ava "shows off" polish sign in honor of Henrik Dobrzanski ("Major Hubal"), to declare this ...

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            you have too much of our land and we will return it to us sooner or later.

            You can have our land only under your nails, here you can return it to yourself. On our land you have nothing to do.
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              Wait and see in battle.
              PS And this is our land including Kiev. your it is Lviv and Ivano Frankivsk command there.
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                will see
                laughing
                Yeah, what color is your combat sofa? And to begin, finish school, and pass the Russian exam.
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                And this is our land including Kiev.

                Yeah, it’s so in Russian, “we don’t want someone else’s, but we’ll take our own, no matter what it is.” Not guys, you won’t succeed. My ancestors lived on this land, they rebuilt it with their own hands (not Russian), they watered with their sweat and blood and lay down in it when you weren’t in the project either. So you can consider something your own, but people on this earth will protect their OWN, blood.
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                your it is Lviv and Ivano Frankivsk command there.

                Why did you get what NOBODY is (exactly “nobody” and not “somebody”), how can you decide who owns what? I, and only I will decide on my land what will happen and how I should act . Lviv and Frankivsk will remain here, but Bandera can roll to their beloved Poland or to Austria there.
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          Yes, you have slogans no less, or even more, trying to cover up a fig leaf that is not being covered? Who wants to leave let him leave, this is the Russian land and nobody specifically holds you. laughing
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            1. stalki 22 May 2020 10: 04 New
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              We are not natives and not Indians, who were not asked when they took the land and turned into colonies, we are not going to uproot our roots. No matter how it is to anyone fantasized. Dream on tongue
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          Let's figure it out. But, if you allow me, without you. Do not allow it - anger will be longer and more blood. Who needs this, think, if you have not forgotten how to ...

          If you were normal people, you would say, they say, dear brothers (non-brothers), you and I are not on the way. You remain in the Eurasian Union, and we go to Europe. Happy to stay, do not remember dashingly! Well, like the Czechs with Slovaks. But when you attempted to escape, you cheated on everything you could, spat on all the wells, etc. etc. And what do you want after everything you have done? What would we bother with your spits and see how you are selling Russian lands abundantly watered with the blood of our ancestors? Maybe you will leave for “Europe” (if you take it), but you will leave at best with what you came from in the 20th century, or even with what you take in your hands, i.e. bare-bare, without Russian gifts!
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          So I would have figured it out for myself, no one bothered for 23 years, but you have to pay for the “americas” anyway, it's like joining an igil.
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          only I - do not bother anyone to live.

          Even as you interfere.
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          Let's figure it out. But, if you allow me, without you.

          So you let go of people who are not on your way and territory, who have presented you and go wherever you want.
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            you let go of people who are not on your way and territory

            You don’t need to mix everything together. Let’s say: flies separately, cutlets separately. Let people go wherever they want. And the territorial integrity of any state is inviolable. But you didn’t let the Chechens go along with the territory?
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              Chechens voted in a referendum and expressed a desire to stay in Russia.
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              Let people go wherever they want.

              And people in Crimea have already decided where they want - to Russia. They went there and the whole peninsula ..
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                Chechens voted in referendum

                on which specifically? They had a lot of referenda. And you won’t vote against the Russian sight specifically.
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                  At a constitutional referendum in 2003, the people of Chechnya wanted to remain part of Russia. The people, not the units of terrorists who wanted independence.

                  And stop talking nonsense about the sights and gun barrel. There are many records and fixations about how the referenda took place in Chechnya and in the Crimea. There is still common sense, which gives a clear answer whether it is possible to force 2 million people to vote at gunpoint.

                  Or do you think that Crimeans are sleeping and see how to return to Ukraine?
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                    At a constitutional referendum in 2003, the people of Chechnya wanted to remain part of Russia. The people, not the units of terrorists who wanted independence.

                    Of course, if there is a contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
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                    And stop talking nonsense about the sights and gun barrel. There are many records and fixations about how the referenda took place in Chechnya and in the Crimea.

                    Well, yes, well, yes, what’s profitable, we remove what’s not profitably “random” in the frame good Well, I understand
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                      Of course, if there is a contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

                      Once again, how did the contingent of the RF Armed Forces influence the voting process?
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                      which is not profitably “randomly" left overs

                      What remains behind the scenes?
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                      Once again, how did the contingent of the RF Armed Forces influence the voting process?

                      Do you really don’t understand? Is it your birthright, or did you graduate from any special courses? Take all the Russian security officials out of Chechnya, or the Crimea there, and see.
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                      What remains behind the scenes?

                      You left behind the scenes, you know better.
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                      You left behind the scenes, you know better.

                      Go there, I don’t know where and do it, I don’t know what - this is about you laughing You say specifically what and where left behind the scenes and prove it, or do not engage in verbiage.
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                      Do you really don’t understand? Is it inborn for you, or did you graduate from any special courses?

                      So you speak directly and answer the questions posed, do not spin too much.
                      I ask again: how did the contingent of the armed forces affect the election results?


                      Naturally, it is more visible: what Crimeans always wanted to go to Russia is clear and has been known for a very long time. What they wanted, they got it, the vast majority are pretty happy. Chechens are also not seen in separatist sentiments. Unless in your head you can see laughing
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                      Well, I turned out to be truly innate.
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                      So you speak directly and answer the questions posed, do not spin too much.

                      I answer directly to the question posed - the presence of the RF Armed Forces in the Crimea directly affected the fact that 102 percent of its residents wanted to join Russia (as in Chechnya) as a force factor. Fighters everywhere, even close to civilians and children. that there are no extras in the frame, an experienced operator knows how to shoot correctly. If in Chechnya you find Russian security officers instead of Russian and Ukrainian in Crimea instead of Russian, the referendum will be 102% for secession from Russia. Or doubt?
                      laughing Chechens are also not seen in the separatist moods. Unless in your head you can see laughing
                      Certainly not noticed, I swear by several Chechen wars of the 90s and the tribute that Russia pays the Caucasus laughing .

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                      The presence of the RF Armed Forces in the territory of Crimea directly affected the fact that 102 percent of its inhabitants wanted to join Russia (as in Chechnya), as a force factor.

                      An interesting story, and now the facts and evidence in the studio, that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in this way influenced these elections. Forward. Clearly state how the force was used to drive 2 million mostly Russian people in the voting booths and to force to put the necessary tick. At the same time, tell me how my grandmother and relatives were forced to do this, so I laughed laughing

                      Or, I repeat the question, do you think that Crimeans are sleeping and seeing how to return to your wonderful state? laughing

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                      and in Crimea, instead of Russian-Ukrainian, the referendum will be 102% for secession from Russia. Or are you in doubt?

                      There can be no doubt whatsoever: if the Ukrainian security forces in Crimea were in such a referendum, a lot of blood would have been shed in Crimea, especially those of the Ukrainian security forces. You don’t even need to run for an example - there is the same Donbass and military operations there because of the sense of impunity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But in the Crimea there were no and no military operations, and all thanks to the fact that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are there and the APU will not even think to go there. smile

                      Moreover, the lack of any desire for various international monitoring commissions to visit Crimea with the aim of observing the state of residents and the general background, only confirms the fact that everything is good there now)

                      As for Chechnya, this your number will not work - you should clearly distinguish between terrorists and the people of Chechnya, who ultimately voted the way they voted. wink
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      ANB 23 May 2020 17: 14 New
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      . Let people go wherever they want.

      Well, that would go to Poland in 1991.
      Why did the integrity of the USSR be violated?
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        Why did the integrity of the USSR be violated?

        The integrity of the USSR was first violated by YOU.
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    ANB 22 May 2020 21: 25 New
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    . Call me Selyuk, Bander, scum, only I - I do not bother anyone to live.

    Every day, shelling civilians in the Donbass, blocking the water in the Crimea, etc. — are you bothering anyone?
    Separatists should not be indignant if someone decided to leave them.
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      Separatists should not be indignant if someone decided to leave them.

      That is, Russia decided to leave the USSR, then it is a separatist. Then why are you indignant about the departure of Ukraine (which came out AFTER the RSFSR) or, say, Chechnya? You yourself say, you should not be indignant laughing .
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        That is, Russia decided to leave the USSR, then it is a separatist. Then why are you outraged about the departure of Ukraine (which came out AFTER the RSFSR) or, say, Chechnya? You yourself say, you should not be outraged laughing.

        I was against Russia's exit from the USSR. Therefore, I have every right to be indignant about Ukraine and Russia.
        Do you think that Ukraine withdrew from the USSR lawfully and fairly? Then, just as legally and fairly, they have the right to exit from Ukraine any of its parts.
        1. revnagan 24 May 2020 10: 12 New
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          Do you think that Ukraine withdrew from the USSR lawfully and fairly?

          Ukraine left the USSR AFTER Russia. And I was against the collapse of the USSR. And 83% of Ukrainians were against it. But Russia left. So is Ukraine legal and fair after the USSR AFTER Russia?
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          Then, just as legally and fairly, they have the right to exit from Ukraine any of its parts.

          I don’t see any logic. It would be if a “parade of sovereignty” of regions had begun in Ukraine, and Kiev and the region withdrew from Ukraine, then yes. Or Russia should have recognized the sovereignty of Chechnya, which,
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          legally and fairly have the right to exit
          following your logic request .
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            ANB 24 May 2020 13: 00 New
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            . Ukraine left the USSR AFTER Russia.

            The adoption of the law on the priority of local legislation over the Union does not mean withdrawal from the Union. Although yes, it greatly contributes to its collapse. But the Union collapsed into 91 four traitors. Moreover, our drunk even lacked time to agree on the borders and territories. And Gorbachev, instead of giving the command to arrest everyone, quietly merged. And gkchp was some theatrical.
            Actually, if Bandera’s power had not taken power in Ukraine, I would have stood up for it first.
            And it’s not clear that you have a Kozhedub hero, and I lived on Kozhedub Street. And now she is also called.
            But in today's Ukraine is no longer the case. And who are you protecting? It turns out that now the real Ukrainians live in the Donbass and in the Crimea.
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              It turns out that now the real Ukrainians live in the Donbass and in the Crimea.

              Real Ukrainians live a lot where. They wish their camp well and work for its good. And it turns out that if someone does not want the good of Russia, does not want to be its vassal again, that Bandera, terrorist, American bedding. They want to go to Donbass RF-yeah, they are REAL Ukrainians. But I do not want to go to Russia. In the USSR, yes, I would love to return. So all the territorial losses of Ukraine are bad for me. Globally bad. Everyone who inflicted them on Ukraine is an enemy, and should be punished. Although this is America, even Russia. Although corrupt Ukrainian politicians.
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                ANB 26 May 2020 01: 08 New
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                . And it turns out that if someone doesn’t want the good of Russia, doesn’t want to be her vassal again, that Bandera man, terrorist, American litter

                Crossing everything. Where did I write about the good of Russia?
                It is clearly written, whose hero is not Kozhedub, but Bandera, that’s just everything you wrote.
                And it so happened that it was Donbass and Crimea for Kozhedub. And the rest of Ukraine is either for Bandera or, like you, quietly whisper in the kitchen and blame Russia for everything.
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            . The commander of the 503 Separate Marine Battalion, Vadim Sukharevsky, who hung in his office a portrait of Hitler’s favorite Otto Skorzeny,

            You are defending just such a Ukraine. And it was from this that Crimea and the Donbass left. And this is exactly what kills people in the Donbass.
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              You are defending just such a Ukraine.

              It’s not true, I’m ashamed of such a Ukraine. But it will not be so always. And Russia, recognizing this Ukraine, does not fight with it, but cooperates by selling goods and raw materials (the same fuel and lubricants), but at the same time supports and encourages the split of the territory, to pick up the neighbors who had broken off from trouble and pocket them. He also comes up with specious pretexts to support the population in the fight against the Nazis. And they themselves recognized these Nazis. It's just amazing treachery. So, when Ukraine gets rid of the Nazis, the territory she’ll come in handy herself. And the fewer they fall into the tenacious clutches of an unprincipled neighbor, the better for Ukraine.
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                ANB 26 May 2020 01: 15 New
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                . So, when Ukraine expands from the Nazis, the territories will come in handy for itself.

                So Putin told you in plain text (and this is recorded in Minsk) - remove Bandera from power, declare them criminals, and Donbass will return to Ukraine.
                Although it is no longer a fact that the Donetsk people want this, after so many murders. But it’s up to you to apologize to them.
                But Crimea is everything. Already returned. The fact that Yeltsin swelled in 91m.
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                But Crimea is everything.

                Nothing lasts forever under the Moon. Moreover, officially the fact of the capture of Crimea by Russia in the world has been officially recognized, but no one has legally recognized Crimea as part of the Russian Federation and will never recognize it. No, I understand you, they captured it - that's all. So you conveniently. But for Ukraine, the loss of territory is bad. It doesn’t suit us, and Ukraine will never admit it. We’ll wait in the wings. And I don’t have anything to apologize to the Donetsk people. to do with them. I don’t feel guilty about anything. Yes, Donetsk is not Israel, and Ukraine is not Germany.
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                ANB 26 May 2020 22: 43 New
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                . This does not suit us, and Ukraine will never recognize this.

                So you can wait not for the weakening of Russia, but the recognition of Crimea by the Russian next president of Ukraine.
                You have already been shown that in Ukraine, the president can promise one thing, and fulfill a completely different one. They will cram the next one, he will recognize Crimea in a day and will dump it. What will you do then?
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                recognition of Crimea by the Russian next president of Ukraine.

                Well, firstly, he is the president, not a kamikaze. Secondly, the Verkhovna Zrada must ratify this decision (this is not for you in the Russian Federation),
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                he recognizes the Crimea in a day and dumps.

                But where will he go after that? He will run to the plane, his own guard will hang. Yes, and Rostov is not rubber laughing . Also, see above. Verkhovna Zrada, a referendum throughout Ukraine ... No, you don’t have a chance to recognize Crimea as Russian. In Ukraine they say: “Duren’s bagaty dummy.” So you don’t have to wash, there’s no water laughing .
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                ANB 27 May 2020 09: 10 New
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                . He doesn’t run to the plane, his own guard will hang

                When properly organized, it will both run and not hang. Security can also be your own.
                Putin has completed the minimum program for Ukraine today. And she was not at all in the spin of the territory. OEMK, for example, is now plowing in full, and in 2013 they introduced a shortened day.
              6. revnagan 27 May 2020 09: 17 New
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                When properly organized, it will both run and not hang.

                laughing Who will be involved in the “right” organization? And who will let the “right” organization of the pro-Russian idea in Ukraine be carried out at the expense of Ukraine? And most importantly, who will agree to carry out an anti-Ukrainian campaign in favor of Russia with the official transfer of Ukrainian territory? the territory of Ukraine? It’s a sentence right away. And it’s good, if only as a politician. Besides, I repeat, the President of Ukraine does not have such dictatorial powers as the Russian. Zrada has not ratified - and Uso request laughing .
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                . Zrada "has not ratified

                So enough public statement. Who needs ratification if the transfer has already taken place?
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                So enough public statement.

                Listen, the dispute takes on a shade of a child’s theme “whose father is stronger.” I answer for the last time, and we will end there. The President’s public statement is not enough. The president is not the king (as in the Russian Federation). It doesn’t work. ratification in general I don’t see the point of answering, it’s for children. There is a procedure for signing such documents. This is the “Bucharest Memorandum” Russia has not ratified, and it’s not necessary to execute it. So it will be with the hypothetical statement of the President of Ukraine. This is one of the elements of “protection against do. ra.ka "so that tyrannical rulers do not get drunk with" Kemsky volosts ". And if such simple truths need to be explained to you ... what to say then. The president, even captured by terrorists, will not be able to promise them or give them back. That's for why it’s been done (I’m exaggerating). On this, let’s take a leave, the pointless argument and your clumsy attempts to prove the legitimacy of the seizure of foreign territories under the “we need it” log are pretty tired. You will never become an official Russian territory with all consequences for its residents and the Russian Federation.
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                . .Krym never become official Russian territory with all the consequences for its residents and the Russian Federation

                So Crimea is already officially Russian territory with all the ensuing consequences.
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                Crimea is already officially Russian territory

                Officially TAKEN, but NOT ANYWHERE RECOGNIZED IN THE WORLD by Russian territory (you can’t mention about "recognition" by your lackeys such as South Ossetia, which itself is not recognized by anyone).
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                with all the ensuing consequences.

                Well, if the sanctions are not enough, and they did not affect the economy of the Russian Federation in any way. Plus, nobody needs Crimean products, Crimean diplomas are not quoted anywhere, etc. etc ... In general, go ahead.
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                ANB 27 May 2020 22: 43 New
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                . Plus, Crimean products are not needed by anyone, Crimean diplomas are not quoted anywhere, etc. and so on

                In Ukraine, yes. Not needed and not quoted.
                I have a friend from Feodosia. He himself moved to Moscow under the Ukrainian Crimea. But his father is happy as a hippo.
                We opened a plant in Primorsky, orders went. Planting vineyards, building roads. Full of work, and normal work, and not sitting in the market or in a shaman. I personally buy Crimean oysters in the store, if I have time. Since they disassemble quickly. Was in Crimea in 2008, 2009 and last year. Just drove to familiar places. The difference is very noticeable.
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                . In Russia, a contract was signed for the construction of two landing ships of domestic production - analogues of French ships. Work in the near future will begin at the Zaliv shipyard in Crimean Kerch.
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    ANB 26 May 2020 01: 17 New
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    . Having recognized ETU Ukraine, Russia does not fight with it, but cooperates by selling goods and raw materials (the same fuels and lubricants

    Read the comments on this site. Almost 100 percent are outraged by this.
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    That we took Crimea, that all of Ukraine, the consequences would be the same now.

    Due to the lives of our military? Was it necessary to fully deploy troops and begin a massive shed of blood? We were afraid of this and for a reason.
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    That we took Crimea, that all of Ukraine, the consequences would be the same now

    Thoughtfully ... Interestingly, and the question "at whose expense is the banquet," when writing was considered?
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    Putin is a cool strategist, but alas it seems that war or harsh decisions in that spirit is not his.

    I do not agree.
    For 20 years of rule, it would be possible to bring the country out of the oil and gas needle. Instead, they continued to stupidly sell oil and gas without developing light industry and consumer goods. As a strategist, in the first place, he would set such a task so that there is independence from external supplies.
    Then the "optimization" of the health system led to the fact that coronavirus is rampant in the country. There are not enough specialists in the field, and medical students have to be attracted.
    A mess in the healthcare system.
    So this is most likely a failure
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    Putin is a cool strategist

    judging by the result in Ukraine- yes laughing
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    war or harsh decisions in that spirit is not his.

    and Munich speech, at least, doesn’t count?
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    We left all the rest in Ukraine.

    100% true.
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    And they are not enough.

    Now it’s much less. And precisely because
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    We left all the rest in Ukraine.

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    And this is just our land.

    No, this is our land, and the Russian Federation has nothing to do with my land.
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      No, this is our land, and the Russian Federation has nothing to do with my land.

      Excuse me, what language do you think?
      Less to you is not mine. Note)
      1. revnagan 22 May 2020 08: 47 New
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        Excuse me, what language do you think?

        In Russian. Not Russian, but in Russian. As the Austrians think in German. And the Swiss. And the Belgians.
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          Yes .. And you live, you are like a Belgian?
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            Do you live like a Belgian?

            As a citizen of Ukraine. Approximately, as an average Russian.
    2. Mountain shooter 22 May 2020 08: 44 New
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      No, this is our land, and the Russian Federation has nothing to do with my land

      All all? Well, love it, and save it, and the land, and the people ... and the country ... Otherwise, rob it godlessly, and the most successful export from you is the export of "wages" ... How many people are left at home? And how much will remain in 10 years?
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        All all? Well, love her, and save, and the land, and the people ... and the country ...

        I do what I can to save. And the land and the people. But some nimble neighbors strive to chop off a piece for themselves, taking advantage of the scum that got into our power, and there is trouble in the country. Only my humble forces are barely enough to fulfill their duties hi .
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        And then rob it godlessly, and the most successful export you have - export "zarobitchan" ...

        Oh, you shamelessly flatter me repeat .
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        How many people are left at home? And how much will remain in 10 years?

        Yes, this is bad. But you have the same thing. So why should I change my idea? Yes, the Russians are not allowed into the European Union, and you would have such a shameful thing as zarobitchans.
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          ANB 22 May 2020 15: 22 New
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          . But some nimble neighbors strive to chop off a piece for themselves, taking advantage of the fact that scum got into our power, and the country is in trouble.

          Debt by payment is red.
          At first, some nimble neighbors chopped off a piece of themselves (and not a small one) in 1991. And when the return went, now they are howling "what about us?" Excuse me, now capitalism and FWM.
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            At first, some nimble neighbors chopped off a piece (and not a small one) in 1991.

            No one chopped off anything in 1991. Everything was allowed kindly, honestly, within the framework of international law.
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            Excuse me, now capitalism and FWM.

            Nothing, God will forgive. We will wait ...
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              ANB 22 May 2020 21: 16 New
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              . No one chopped off anything in 1991. Everything was allowed kindly, honestly, within the framework of international law.

              So how did you not chop off?
              Taking advantage of the fact that in the USSR the president was a traitor Gorbachev, and in the RSFSR drunk Yeltsin, they completely brazenly and illegally left the Union. Bringing Crimea, Donbass and New Russia with them.
              And now referring to the mythical "international law."
              Well, now wait. True, what are you going to wait for?
              1. revnagan 23 May 2020 10: 13 New
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                Taking advantage of the fact that in the USSR the president was a traitor Gorbachev, and in the RSFSR drunk Yeltsin, they completely brazenly and illegally left the Union.

                Why so impudently, shamelessly and shamelessly lie? The first of the Union left the RSFSR on June 12, 1990.
                "The Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR is a political and legal act that marked the beginning of constitutional reform and the proclamation of state sovereignty of the RSFSR.
                The declaration was adopted in the course of a difficult political struggle by the First Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR on June 12, 1990. Voting results: 907 for, 13 against, 9 abstained [1] [2].
                In addition to the proclamation of the sovereignty of the RSFSR and the intention to create a new democratic rule of law within the renewed Union of the SSR, the declaration also stated:
                the priority of the Constitution and laws of the RSFSR over legislative acts of the USSR; "
                wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_state_ sovereignty of the RSFSR
                Having started to lie, you are no longer able to stop, and generate more and more lies. "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat!" No, guys, you can’t build anything worthwhile on lies. So Ukraine has every reason (legal) take advantage of Russia's weakening and regain its own. Big things are being done slowly. Let's wait.
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                  . No, guys, you can’t build anything worthwhile on a lie. So Ukraine has every reason (legal) to take advantage of Russia's weakening and regain its own. Great things are being done slowly. Let's wait.

                  In 1990, the USSR itself still existed. And Yeltsin is also a separatist. I honestly wrote that Gorbachev and Yeltsin are traitors who drove the country to f. Ukraine brazenly took advantage of this.
                  Now Ukraine has fallen into the same position as Russia in the 90s.
                  And Russia also took advantage. And less arrogant, since only Crimea took.
                  And you wait there for yourself. By the way, what exactly are you waiting for? Hedgehogs we have eaten all of them, the economy to shreds, the bottom has broken. Already, growth is beginning. So you have to wait next time.
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                    Ukraine brazenly took advantage of this.

                    The first took advantage of the Russian Federation.
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                    Hedgehogs we have eaten all of them, the economy to shreds, the bottom has broken.

                    I'm crying right now with compassion.
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                    Already, growth is beginning.

                    Forward.
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                    So you have to wait next time.

                    Though the next. After all, he will come very soon.
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                      . Though the next. After all, he will come very soon.

                      And what exactly are you waiting for?
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                      And what exactly are you waiting for?

                      Ah, don’t bother .... You, the great ones, have nothing to fear at all, so doesn’t it matter what we wait.
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        . and so you would have such a shameful thing as zarobitchane.

        So it was already. And it ended. How many salaries do Europeans offer? Maydauns dreamed of 1000 euros, and in Russia it was the average salary. And is it worth the Russians to go to Poland?
        And who told you such nonsense that Russian citizens are not allowed abroad?
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          And who told you such nonsense that Russian citizens are not allowed abroad?

          They let me in, of course. You are just trying to pervert and defame the meaning of what I said above. But here, as Ukrainians, they are not taken that way. And about 1000 euros, salaries in the Russian Federation do not have to lie. 10-15-18 tyr. in the territory of Zamkadia is a normal RFov s / n.
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            . They let me in, of course. You are just trying to pervert and defame the meaning of what I said above. But here, as Ukrainians, they are not taken that way. And about 1000 euros, salaries in the Russian Federation do not have to lie. 10-15-18 tyr. in the territory of Zamkadia is a normal RFov s / n.
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            Well, where am I misinterpreting your words. Now you agree that the Russians are allowed abroad.
            We clarify about the work. Ukrainians get jobs, mostly illegally and in low-skilled jobs.
            Officially and for a normal salary, I think that they take about the same. Till. Although not a fact, I do not own statistics.
            But to go koryachitsya in Poland for a penny, I definitely do not make sense.
            Salary of the seller in 5ke 30-50 thousand. It is less than 1000 euros. But this is the position of the seller. Men in working positions get more.
            In the 90s, yes, they also drove en masse to work over the hill. Now the departure has greatly decreased, as it is unprofitable.
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              Now you agree that the Russians are allowed abroad.

              You might think that I did not agree with this, but you convinced me of the opposite.
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              We clarify about the work.

              We clarify about work, where? In the Russian Federation or the European Union?
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              Ukrainians get jobs, mostly illegally and in low-skilled jobs.

              You don’t own the knowledge of the materiel. The fact of the matter is that they go to work, having previously drawn up a contract in Ukraine. Officially. Yes, they work in most of them not in the office, but where the locals don’t go. And the Russians can also pre-contract in the Russian Federation, and for a variety of jobs?
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              Salary of the seller in 5ke 30-50 thousand.

              Oh, I’m so happy for you. If that were true, I would have rejoiced even more laughing .
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              Now the departure has greatly decreased, as it is unprofitable.

              It’s good that employers are right after the citizens of the Russian Federation. They grab from hand, offering 50 ty. for simple easy work, and citizens proudly turn away, not agreeing to work for such a penny. Finally, luck turned to face the Russians and you have built a society of universal social justice good !
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                . offering 50 sput. for simple easy work, and citizens proudly turn away, not agreeing to work for such a penny.

                There was no question of simple and easy work. But in Europe this is exactly what they are offering?
                In the 90s, and we had such offices.
                Now they are not visible. Share it somewhere.
                At my work place, if I find an intelligent specialist to work for us, then I’m supposed to get a bonus of 30 thousand. And, damn it, I just got it. And work is easier than picking strawberries. True, it is not much easier.
                And look at haha ​​ru.
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    3. Alexey Sommer 22 May 2020 08: 53 New
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      your export is paid for work ... How many people are left at home? And how much will remain in 10 years?

      I don’t get it. Explain more detailed please.
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      and the most successful export for you is the export of money for workers ...

      You underestimate them. More babies are successfully selling!
  • tihonmarine 22 May 2020 09: 02 New
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    No, this is our land, and the Russian Federation has nothing to do with my land.

    And who claims your land? As far as your media writes correctly, you will not sell land to the Russians, but only to Americans and gay people. You always find reasons to push something from Russia, but not Russia from you. Crimea and Donbas were able to break away from the outskirts. Have you ever looked in the mirror for the last time?
    And you write 100% of the truth that Russia left you. Have you ever looked at the data whom you threw, and for what? Maybe Russia needs 70% of the pro-Bandera Nazi population that has already blown up all of Ukraine. Live on your land, Russia does not need it, but what you got from Russia will have to be returned, because we are now on opposite sides of the barricades. Ours is ours, and yours is yours.
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      And you write 100% of the truth that Russia left you.

      Why didn’t they come to the Maidan when they blew ears from irons and coffee grinders - “Ukraine is not Russia”! They only squealed joyfully at the thought that they had gotten rid of the "lazy and eternally drunken" elder brother "whom they feed." I have not seen protests except in the Crimea.
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        They only squealed joyfully at the thought that they had gotten rid of the "lazy and eternally drunken" elder brother "whom they feed."

        Because they were 93% of these screeching with joy, so they do not need such a Maidan either then or now. Although now they no longer squeal, but squeal.
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    What's the truth then? The fact that the Ukrainians wanted to live separately, and Russia would have fed them? Did they throw a job to her and so on? And do not dream. Gone so gone. A debt would not be bad to return. Let the Crimea, let Donbas. With a black sheep, even a tuft of wool. It would be better of course with money. But the great agrarian power will remain agrarian. There will never be money from the word.
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      But the great agrarian power will remain agrarian.


      Yes, you flatter them, they buy agricultural products abroad, including and in Russia!
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      A debt would not be bad to return.

      Well, we have decided on our debts after the collapse of the USSR. Everything. Point. The rest is robbery. However, you can start by returning the squeezed oil production platforms.
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      Let the Crimea, let Donbas.

      Bananas. And refined dust. Territories will come in handy when the government becomes sane, so NEVER Ukraine recognizes them as Russian.
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    No, this is our land, and the Russian Federation has nothing to do with my land.

    Oh how !!!! And when did our land become “yours”? If you in the Union were allowed to live on it, then this does not make yours. It’s like a room in an apartment.
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      Oh how !!!! And when did our land become “yours”?

      Hello to you. She was always ours. Here my great-grandfathers were born, lived and protected her. They are buried here. Here I was born, I live and I will protect her. And there is nothing to do for any of the people from the cordon.
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      If you in the Union were allowed to live on it, then this does not make yours.

      It’s ridiculous. Well, from whom do I need permission to live on my land, is it not from you, but, neighbors? What relation can you, with your RF, have to my property? Jews troll for hutspu, but you yourself are exactly like that same.
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        Hello to you.

        The lands on which you temporarily live belonged first to RI, then to the USSR. They conquered them, bought them, etc. You deny them, like "lived in the occupation." How did you live "in occupation" on lands not belonging to you? How are the blacks brought into the US?
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          The lands on which you temporarily inhabit belonged first to RI

          So we all live on this earth temporarily, and RI has long been living in Bose. Like the USSR. So what was conquered was conquered by my ancestors. And bought for the money of my ancestors. For future generations who will live. And the Russians Well, they can’t pretend to be descendants in any way, because everything that was new and alien after 1991. I didn’t live in occupation, my grandfathers freed Europe from the Nazis. They rebuilt the factories that blew up during the evacuation. These are their government bonds. I keep together with their photographs from Budapest, orders and medals, as a memory. So I didn’t live on earth for a minute. Which does not belong to me. It is mine by right. And you, Russian White Guards chauvinists, you can’t even dream about mine the earth.
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            And you, the Russian White Guard chauvinists, you can not even dream about my land.

            It is bad that such a concept as "Succession of States" is not familiar to you. We’ll take everything away!
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              It is bad that such a concept as "Succession of States" is not familiar to you.

              It is well known, therefore, Ukraine, like Russia, is the heir to the USSR in the part that concerns them. with me crawling on all fours laughing . "His" he will take ... Bula in the dog's hut ...
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                therefore, Ukraine, like Russia, are the heirs of the USSR in the part concerning them.

                Debts of the USSR also given?
                We just started from the Crimea, look at youtube like people like you promised, then apologized in captivity lol
                1. revnagan 23 May 2020 13: 54 New
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                  Debts of the USSR also given?

                  But the assets of the USSR were also divided into all? Parents still have a savings book. Sberbank of the USSR lies, and it has 10 full-fledged Soviet rubles. And 000 from me. Who did you give them to?
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                  We just started from Crimea
                  On that and finished.
                  But who is arguing? On the "hapok", the factor of surprise, insidiousness and vile perfidy .... Since then 6 years have passed, much has changed, few Russians believe in the "brothers". And make the prisoners apologize ( and taken aback by the former "brothers") a lot of heroism is not necessary.
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                    And the assets of the USSR also divided into all?

                    How to repay debts - so Russia, how to divide assets - so on everyone! Interesting logic!
                    The book of the Sberbank of the USSR lies, To whom did you give them?

                    They gave you $ 200 million over 20 years! Where have you been?
                    On the "hapok", the factor of surprise, treachery and vile perfidy.

                    And Crimeans only rejoiced and welcomed .....
                    a lot has changed, few Russians believe that the “brothers”.

                    Our brothers in the Crimea and in the Donbass! Bandera is not our brothers.
                    And make the prisoners apologize

                    God be with them, with an apology! But as the camera promised "Muscovites" "both here and here", but something did not grow together ....
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                    Interesting logic!

                    Not worse than yours: screaming that you gave back your debts for everyone (although, in fact, you didn’t repay them), but the fact that the assets were tidied up FOR EVERYTHING is modestly silent.
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                    They gave you $ 200 million over 20 years! Where have you been?

                    And show the sheet with my signature. No? Yes, 200 something there, they didn’t give back debts, but bribed the top. So you can ask the question “where did you go” to Rostov's sitter.
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                    And Crimeans only rejoiced and welcomed .....

                    Yes, if only for health. And now seriously: the only plus of Crimea is that there was no blood, like in the Donbass. That's all. Legally, Crimea remains Ukrainian, and no one will ever recognize him as Russian. And the most interesting thing there is just beginning : there is no water, the winter was snowless, there will be no tourists. There are budget problems in Russia, so it will be difficult to get money in the Crimea. Agricultural products in Crimea are not in demand (far to carry, the price rises, plus, again, watering .. .). So the Russian salaries and pensions of Crimeans will be expensive. A year for n x will be hard, and it's only the beginning.
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                    But as the camera promised "Muscovites" "both here and here", but something did not grow together ....

                    Well, then it’s not a man. He promised, do it. And is it something offensive to you?
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    People are just sorry. We left all the rest in Ukraine.
    And they are not enough.
    And this is just our land.

    At first, everything was sold by Eltsin, and then captured by immigrants from Western Ukraine. There are many of our Soviet people in Ukraine, who are with us in our souls and minds, and as many people who are against us, and even hate with fierce hatred. You can only feel sorry for the first half, but nothing can be done already.
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      You can only feel sorry for the first half, but nothing can be done already.

      Everything is possible. It would be a desire and a will.
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        You can only feel sorry for the first half, but nothing can be done already.

        Everything is possible. It would be a desire and a will.

        What, again, to Russian Van to pour his blood while Mykola chews fat and thinks out what else to demand from Vania for "taking him with Velika nenki"?
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          What, again, to Russian Van to pour his blood while Mykola chews fat and thinks out what else to demand from Vania for "taking him with Velika nenki"?

          Do you mean by Kozhedub? Kovpak? Kirponos? Heroes of the Soviet Union-Ukrainians who are second only to Russians in terms of the number of awarded? And, yes, yes, yes, your president said that "you could do it (yourself)", which means true truth good .
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            Do you mean by Kozhedub? Kovpak? Kirponos? Heroes of the Soviet Union-Ukrainians who are second only to Russians in terms of the number of awarded? And, yes, yes, yes, your president said that "you could do it (yourself)", which means true truth

            You do not touch the Heroes of the USSR who beat your idols - fascists and Bandervu, and the monuments to which you are now tearing down with a hoot. Go to the gay parade along Bandera Street and don’t touch the Heroes from your bloody paws, you sold them for “European” pants!
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              who beat your idols - fascists and banderv

              Judging by your comments, these are your idols. My people are standing on the photo as if they were alive. On May 9, I celebrate with them every year.
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              Go to the gay parade

              Sorry, I don’t go to some events with you.
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              don't touch out your bloody paws

              In general, by the way. By the way, why is it so angry, a dog-watchdog? Did you miss the spring vaccine against rabies? Did you stop the tail?
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                Judging by your comments, these are your idols. My people are standing on the photo as if they were alive. On May 9, I celebrate with them every year.

                Beautiful fairy tale! When you destroy the next monument to the heroes of the Second World War, you can tell your own people - laugh.
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                Sorry, I don’t go to some events with you.

                I hasten to upset ukrogeytusovka - in Russia such rubbish does not happen, but with curiosity I follow the further movement of Ukraine along Bandera Street to Europe. Or is there no such street in the capital? By the way, are you aware that RI bought your capital from the Poles?
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                By the way, why so angry, dog watchdog?

                Well, when the argument ends at Bandera, he goes on to personal insults. Not new.
                Another "Putin slave" can call me. I won’t sleep all day, I won’t eat all night, I will “worry”!
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                  Beautiful fairy tale! When you destroy the next monument to the heroes of the Second World War, you can tell your own people - laugh.

                  Arabs say: “the sand is heavy, the stone is heavy, but the hardest is the fool’s spite.” This is about you. But the monuments to the Heroes of the Great Patriotic War in my city:
                  http://shostka.info/shostkanews/vo-vremya-karantyna-kulturnye-meropryyatyya-v-shostke-prohodyat-vyrtualno-vyrtualnaya-ekskursyya-v-muzej-kozheduba/
                  Well, this is for you to break the template. However, the descendants of the White Guards and Vlasovites, this is not to understand ....
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                  there’s no such rubbish in Russia,

                  Yeah, never since Tchaikovsky, ending Moiseev in Russia this was not. laughing Glory to the braces.
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                  By the way, are you aware that RI bought your capital from the Poles?

                  In the course. But it’s not clear what side you, the descendants of serfs, feel about the tsar’s purchase. Yes, and now it’s now in the yard-21. And you know that in the 21st century Moscow pays tribute to the Caucasus, like the Tatars in 17m? You were one of the Golden Horde uluses shortly before the purchase of the territory of the then Maloros? And now what? Ulan Bator will require a tribute, give? laughing .
                  Quote: major147
                  Well, when the argument ends at Bandera, he goes on to personal insults. Not new.

                  I’m not familiar with Bandera, so you know better. With regard to insults, for some reason you can, and it is considered on your part almost valor. But how about the same coin to you: "- But what about us ?!" Oh, somewhere I’ve heard something like this .... Someone you remind me of this, I don’t understand only whom. Well, right one to one.
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                  I won’t sleep all day, I won’t eat all night, I will “worry”!

                  Right now, I would like to help you wholeheartedly, but I don’t know how. If I were a cat-valerian, I would suggest drinking, and so ... Well, dig out a bone, gnaw it, or lie down for yourself something (if you stayed), maybe let it go.
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                    maybe let it go.

                    Well, based on the totality of your posts, I can state a complete lack of mental function, the main reason for which is the systematic long jumps from the pan on the head.
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        It would be the people’s desire and will, enough to feed them a tit.
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      There are many of our Soviet people in Ukraine, who are with us in our hearts and minds,

      Not with you (as with Russia), but with you, just like with the USSR. Well, since the difference between the USSR and the modern RF is approximately the same as between a simple chair and an electric one, it’s not with you.
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      Russia has not left anyone. These are Ukrainians

      I will subscribe to your every word! But according to not our brothers, as always, “Russia is to blame for everything”!
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      Something went wrong with the former slave with independence, he immediately ran to look for new masters, this slave cannot be without masters ...
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      The storyteller ... at the time of the collapse of the Union, no more than 15 percent negatively related to Russia ...
  • Vend 22 May 2020 09: 46 New
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    Well it is. They themselves are to blame.
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      Well it is. They themselves are to blame.

      What do you!? According to their old tradition, they are "not guilty of anything"!
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        Quote: Wend
        Well it is. They themselves are to blame.

        What do you!? According to their old tradition, they are "not guilty of anything"!

        But you never know what they’ll invent for themselves)
  • 4ekist 22 May 2020 10: 12 New
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    That is our land.
  • Maverick78 22 May 2020 12: 29 New
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    Believe me, you had no other option.
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    And the most obscene thing is that our leadership has stepped over and recognized the coup.
    Then she began to communicate with the putschists.
    And now it’s impossible to wash off of it.
    Now, if they would say to the UN or where else:
    "The Maidan is an illegal overthrow of a popularly elected president. We do not recognize the power that has come.
    In order to avoid bloodshed, we introduce our troops into the territory inhabited by ethnic Russians, and which is originally Russian land. "
    Then then, Nebenzya could be taught to live Polish-French-German Germans.
    And now it’s not worth it.
  • andr327 22 May 2020 08: 08 New
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    They don’t want to hear this, therefore they don’t hear it. And there were no commands to “pull out earplugs” from Washington.
  • svp67 22 May 2020 08: 12 New
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    Well, where does France climb with its claims against us in relation to Crimea ... maybe it’s enough for us to remain silent and not recognize Mayotte as its member?
    1. And what will it give? Well, we do not recognize Venezuela, Cuba, Armenia .... We can even impose sanctions. What will it give? How will it hit France? Will they withdraw their banks from there or will Airfrans and the rest of the world airlines stop flying?
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        And what will it give?

        So far, a clear hint ... We don’t know how it will turn out tomorrow, maybe France will turn out to be objectionable to the “world community”
        1. This is unlikely ... No, everything happens, but the French are not a third-rate country, and I’m sure, turning their colonial affairs, she consults with the “club of gentlemen” - are there any interests whatsoever? And our lord of the Siberian Cranes imagined that he had risen above the birds and decided to turn it original, but in his own way. It seems to have happened, but clumsily somehow ....
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            It seems to have happened, but clumsily somehow ....

            Once you can’t stop halfway ... you always need to finish things right away
    2. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 09: 05 New
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      Quote: svp67

      Well, where does France climb with its claims against us in relation to Crimea ... maybe it’s enough for us to remain silent and not recognize Mayotte as its member?

      You may not recognize the entire zone of influence of the CFA, where France creates the economic and military genocide of the African population.
  • rocket757 22 May 2020 08: 27 New
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    Vasily Nebenzya reminded the interlocutors of how it all began.

    No, they won’t remember, they won’t understand .... until something terrible, argued by him, was brought to the "nose"! Then they will immediately have a scent and the memory will “wake up”!
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      Interrogated, it will be so ... hi
      1. Terenin 22 May 2020 09: 15 New
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        Quote: cniza
        Interrogated, it will be so ... hi

        I agree. It's time to finish - harness ...
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          Quote: Terenin
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          Interrogated, it will be so ... hi

          I agree. It's time to finish - harness ...

          I think that you need to harness "on readiness." "They don’t show a fool half the battle!" When the "arguments" are completely ready, then they need to be brought "to the nose" of the consumer!
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        Honestly ... I just fantasized, did not even dream.
        It is bad that our desires do not correspond to our reality and possibilities.
        We need many changes in the country, we have got a Schaub, and we must bring in those who will do it.
  • Masha 22 May 2020 08: 29 New
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    Crimea is Russia! And this is a fait accompli! And who is there that sounds ... on the drum ....
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      Quote: Masha
      Crimea is Russia! And this is a fait accompli! And who is there that sounds ... on the drum.

      Yes, 6 years have passed, and everyone agrees that this is Russia. It is only among arthropods, Crimea is still supposedly non-existent, and Crimea is already like “carrying chacha past the company, past the cherry plum nose” for it, flying like a basin over the bathhouse. Whistling flies from the outskirts, and they all gallop and gallop, like driven horses dropping their blinkers over their eyes, and noticing anything .....
      1. New Year day 22 May 2020 09: 48 New
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        and everyone agrees that this is Russia.

        .. and even Ukraine! BUT the theme of Crimea is very convenient for the Ukrainian government - you can exaggerate it, chew it, spit it out and chew it again, since this is relevant and a simple Ukrainian will not ask the authorities about education, healthcare, and living standards. Again, those who are offended love and little by little they throw up some money.
        because
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        they all gallop and gallop, like driven horses dropping their blinders over their eyes, and noticing anything .....

        because it’s so convenient and even beneficial, but ... not for everyone
        1. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 09: 59 New
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          BUT the theme of Crimea for the Ukrainian government is very convenient - you can exaggerate it, chew, spit it out and chew again

          And what more they scratch their tongue. Will they be exaggerating and shouting that both Crimea and Donbas have fled from them, or that they have already put their lands under the hammer.
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        and do not notice anything .....

        In front of them, they “wave” the Crimea and the Donbass, so that they won’t take their eyes off while the remnants of the “independent” troubling!
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        all agree that this is Russia.

        All this is who? Your lackeys who live at your expense and do not even have the international status of a state (such as South Ossetia) laughing ?
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  • prior 22 May 2020 08: 32 New
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    Nebenza should express gratitude to the Ukrainian “racers” and their European directors.
    Without their active help, Crimea would have remained Ukrainian.
    And now - our Crimea.
    Continue to ride Svidomo, and there you watch and the rest of Ukraine will return to its native harbor.
    1. vavilon 22 May 2020 09: 19 New
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      What do you think means "ours"? But the Ukrainian people are not ours or something that was left to their own devices?
      These are our people and we theirs, it must be understood in our heads and not to separate what it is we and it is they
      1. prior 22 May 2020 09: 50 New
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        In America, darkness is the people of Russia. Whose will they be? Ours or theirs?
        In fascist Germany, a mass of soldiers were workers and sympathized with the USSR. Whose are they?
        Vlasov, Krasnov, Kolchak Russians. Whose are they?
        While the Ukrainian people are not with us, they are not ours. For the most part, if not Bandera, then a hatskraynik.
        The term "non-brothers" did not appear in Russia.
        1. vavilon 22 May 2020 11: 37 New
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          I don’t understand your answer to my comment, but I’ll try to answer your arguments,
          Well, firstly, the United States is a country of immigrants there, all the strangers and who went there, he decided for himself where he should live and don’t need to confuse America with Ukraine. Ukraine has always been the same Russia and people are the same Russians as we are,
          Well, Vlasov and others like him are also ours, even though they are bastards, but they are our bastards as they say in the family
          And you need to understand one thing that Bandera is not a people is not a nation is an ideology
          1. revnagan 22 May 2020 11: 58 New
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            Quote: vavilon
            Ukraine has always been the same Russia

            Was.
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            people are the same Russians as we are

            And here, you’re naughty. Russian, yes, we are full here. Soviet, yes too, I agree. Russians? No, thank you. Change Petlyurov Ukraine to White Guard Russia it changed to sewn soap. There are no “Russians” here and there will not be.
            1. vavilon 22 May 2020 12: 18 New
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              And who are you at the summit?
              Who do you think you are?
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                Quote: vavilon
                you summit

                What a "summit"?
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                Who do you think you are?

                A citizen of Ukraine (I would like the USSR, but alas ...) by ethnicity-Russian. I do not want to in the Russian Federation. Explain why?
                1. vavilon 22 May 2020 12: 42 New
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                  Try to explain, trying to understand you
                  1. revnagan 22 May 2020 13: 09 New
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                    Try to explain

                    I’m trying. Now Russia is no better than Ukraine. Everything is bought and sold. Power belongs to a handful of oligarchs. There is no justice like that in the USSR. Russia seizes foreign territories by the right of the strong, but it refuses to recognize this right with respect to itself, beloved. Russia easily refuses his words, guarantees, promises on far-fetched pretexts. The Russian authorities are lying and winding. The Crimea was needed not because the Russians live there, but as a strategically important territory. An opportunity appeared, Ukraine weakened, and the Russian Federation overcame Crimea without looking and their guarantees. And the whole world is pouring rubbish into their ears. "It's your fault that I want to eat," yeah. The main thing that I don't like is injustice. No, in Ukraine the situation with justice is not better, but let’s say for sure as well. Russia is far from the USSR, it has become exactly the same cap.country like the rest, and lives on the principle of robbers from the tale "We will rob, good, we will be robbed, bad." Plus, constant, all swelling chauvinism. "We are you fed, everything is yours, ours, and you don’t even have a language ... "and other Nazi crap. Therefore, the Russian Federation is no better than Ukraine. Ukraine is my home, mine scarlet Rodina.Eo robbed under the pretext of, and adhering to the principles of "divide and conquer" plan to rob in dalneyshem.Vas surprised that I mind?
                    1. vavilon 22 May 2020 13: 32 New
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                      Of course, I agree with many of your comments, and I adhere to the same point of view, well, I have one BUT!
                      The problem is that today Ukraine uses other forces that are now in power, they do not need Ukraine, Ukraine for them is a way to earn money and they rely on world financial institutions that will absorb Ukraine, and its people will become homeless on their own land and from Ukraine one name will remain
                      As for Russia, I agree with you, but this is not the way of struggle that is happening in Ukraine now
                      First you need to clean up your house in Kiev and then you can already talk with Russia
                      And so we will always be scapegoats in someone’s hands
                      As for me we are one people that Russia Belarus Ukraine, it is politicians who made us all enemies and pushed our heads together
                      1. revnagan 22 May 2020 13: 47 New
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                        Quote: vavilon
                        they do not need Ukraine

                        They need Ukraine, like Russia, for their own purposes. Russia is angry because it has lost influence in Ukraine, and capitalist Russia is just as ready to swallow Ukraine with all the consequences.
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                        As for Russia, I agree with you, but this is not the way of struggle that is happening in Ukraine now

                        And there is no other way to fight. What can you do if Natsik became the most ardent fighters for the territorial integrity of Ukraine request .
                        Quote: vavilon
                        First you need to clean up your house in Kiev and then you can already talk with Russia

                        External forces, neither in the West nor in the East, need this. It is so convenient to do their business under the slogan of "fighting the Nazis" or the "Eastern threat." Therefore, the only way out is to make the invaders pay exorbitant prices.
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                        As for me, we are one people that Russia Belarus Ukraine

                        I used to think so, too, but now, no. And I don’t want to have anything to do with stiff Russians. When they become Russians again, then perhaps. Only so that it is not too late.
                      2. vavilon 22 May 2020 14: 24 New
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                        In Russia, it is not going to absorb Ukraine because oligarchs rule in Russia and oligarchs are not financially profitable to absorb countries, but to maintain their spheres of influence is yes.
                        There are different ways of fighting, do you think it’s better to shed blood to send young people who do not understand what they’re fighting to the bullets, Just don’t tell me here about the slogans “Ukraine ponadus” or the like?
                        As I said, you need to understand first inside Ukraine without otherworldly help. We look at the oligarchic system of Russia and we don’t notice the oligarchs who take away the last of the Ukrainian people
                        As for our Slavic peoples, so I can say one thing that no one chooses and does not replace father and mother
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                        Is “Ukraine” in Canada? bully
                      4. revnagan 22 May 2020 20: 37 New
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                        In Russia is not going to absorb Ukraine

                        Of course he’s going to. In Russia, they remember well the words of Z. Brzezinski (the earth is glassy to him) that without Ukraine it will never be a superpower. The West will not hinder pushing the borders either. .Pipelines.Nedra.Only, why do we need all this?
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      In America, darkness is the people of Russia. Whose will they be? Ours or theirs?

      Theirs. And since former Russians have American passports, now America has rights to the territory on which these Russians previously lived. Well, just like Russia in the Donbass and in Crimea good .
      1. prior 22 May 2020 12: 02 New
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        Bravo. You are a master of verbiage, in a good way. Just let these former elections be held in the territory that they supposedly have the right to hold. Well, as in the Crimea or in the Donbass.
        Let's see what happens.
        And then suddenly, as a result of the referendum, it turns out that Alaska and California are not American at all.
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          Just let these former elections be held in the territory that they supposedly have the right to hold.

          To do this, it will be necessary to introduce the US military / territorial control to these territories, treacherously taking advantage of the gullibility of the Russian Federation (as the Russian Federation did in relation to Ukraine). I hope that China will restore world justice in relation to Russia ....
          1. prior 22 May 2020 13: 01 New
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            Obviously, you are ready to lie under anyone, even under America, even under China, if only to shit Russia for returning its rightful territory - the Crimea, which, by Khrushchev’s stupidity, accidentally became part of Soviet Ukraine.
            1. revnagan 22 May 2020 13: 51 New
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              Obviously you're ready to lie under anyone

              Do not judge strangers by yourself. Not everyone is ready to do what you are in a similar situation. And yes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
              Quote: prior
              just to spoil Russia

              Do not shit, but restore justice.
              Quote: prior
              she regained her rightful territory

              She (Russia) can return Crimea only to Ukraine. Since the collapse of the USSR, this is the legal territory of Ukraine. And legally, nothing has changed at the moment.
  • major147 22 May 2020 11: 13 New
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    What do you think means "ours"? But the Ukrainian people are not ours or something that was left to their own devices?
    These are our people and we theirs, it must be understood in our heads and not to separate what it is we and it is they

    Ours rose against the junta, and yours joyfully attended such "attractions" during the Maidan!

    Cherishing his "greatness" over the "padded coats"! But I’m upset, your cell is also in the cage!
    1. vavilon 22 May 2020 11: 43 New
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      And in the cell and outside the cell it is also ours and we theirs
      1. major147 22 May 2020 12: 56 New
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        And in the cell and outside the cell it is also ours and we theirs

        Can you imagine such a performance with a Ukrainian in a cage in Russia !?
  • New Year day 22 May 2020 09: 53 New
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    and there you look and the rest of Ukraine will return to its native harbor.

    I don’t like it when they use the terms “territory”, not people.
    In fact, this is the philosophy of banderlog: “Crimea will be Ukrainian or deserted”
    People are the main thing in any territory and it is necessary to fight for the minds, it is difficult, but possible.
    Hence the question: how do you pretend to all of Ukraine, quitting the fight for the minds of Ukrainians?
    1. prior 22 May 2020 09: 57 New
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      Do not cling to terms. For me, the territory of Ukraine and the people of Ukraine are inextricable, like Crimea and Crimeans.
      Zapadentsev is "useless", so there is no one to fight for, and Orthodox Ukraine will eat up the fill of shit and shit and remember the Pereyaslav Rada.
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    4. vavilon 22 May 2020 11: 50 New
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      I fully support you, now many Ukrainian minds are clogged with the ideology of Bandera and this weed needs to be uprooted and we need to do it now, nobody will do it for us
  • tihonmarine 22 May 2020 10: 00 New
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    Continue to ride Svidomo, and there you watch and the rest of Ukraine will return to its native harbor.

    That's for sure, because time works against them.
  • tihonmarine 22 May 2020 08: 35 New
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    After that, Vasily Nebenzya urged the participants in the meeting not to build judgments without having listened to those who live in Crimea now.
    But the “progressive west" people in Crimea do not see and do not hear, it is just dust for them, but then they see and hear in Kiev Zielnsky, Kolomoisky, Welshman and also the Bandera that joined them, and other garbage that have nothing to do with Crimea .
  • Andrei Nikolaevich 22 May 2020 08: 40 New
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    Right to all the service stations!
  • Vladimir 22 May 2020 08: 47 New
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    Quote: prior
    Without their active help, Crimea would have remained Ukrainian.
    And now - our Crimea.

    I agree, there was still a certain third party in the scenario of which they surrendered the Crimea, agree 25 thousand. a soldier of the Ukrainian army, although not quite combat-ready, is something, and I believe there was an order from the outside.
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      I agree, there was still a certain third party in the scenario of which they surrendered the Crimea, agree 25 thousand. a soldier of the Ukrainian army, although not quite combat-ready, is something, and I believe there was an order from the outside.

      everything is simple! You can get an answer. looking all hated Gordon. 2 former defense ministers of Ukraine live in Russia - does this mean something?
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      there was still a certain third party

      Are you talking about the Lord God?
  • cniza 22 May 2020 08: 56 New
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    Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya commented on another attack against Russia on the issue of reunification with Crimea.


    The issue with Crimea is closed and there is nothing to procrastinate it.
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      Quote: cniza
      Russian Permanent Representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya commented on another attack against Russia on the issue of reunification with Crimea.


      The issue with Crimea is closed and there is nothing to procrastinate it.

      So if the teeth are knocked out or can be knocked out, it remains - to procrastinate winked
    2. major147 22 May 2020 11: 18 New
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      The issue with Crimea is closed and there is nothing to procrastinate it.

      They "comb" him and he bothers them!
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      The question with Crimea is closed

      This is your point of view. Ukrainian is different. The question is postponed until there is a decision in favor of Ukraine.
      1. cniza 22 May 2020 12: 30 New
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        The question is postponed until there is a decision in favor of Ukraine.



        Who should decide and why in favor of Ukraine, the people of Crimea have already decided, period.
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          the people of Crimea have already decided, period.

          You say a point, we say a comma. International laws are violated, no one recognized Crimea as Russian. We’ll wait. If you sit on the river for a long time, sooner or later the enemy’s corpse will float by ...
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            Here time will judge us, it’s not long to wait ...
  • 75 Sergey 22 May 2020 09: 08 New
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    I don’t understand one thing, why Russia will not put the return of Crimea as a restoration of justice, i.e. return of the territory with the population, ka illegally squeezed earlier by Ukraine?
    To begin with, the transfer of Crimea to the RSFSR was not ratified, and Sevastopol, as a separate enclave, has always been the territory of the RSFSR.
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      ka illegally squeezed earlier by Ukraine?

      in more detail from this place ..
      Crimea was not squeezed out, but transferred to Ukraine by decision of the supreme power of the USSR. The opinion of people, neither then nor now, was or is not interested
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        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: 75Sergey
        ka illegally squeezed earlier by Ukraine?

        in more detail from this place ..
        Crimea was not squeezed out, but transferred to Ukraine by decision of the supreme power of the USSR. The opinion of people, neither then nor now, was or is not interested

        Previously, the people of Crimea did not ask anyone about his desire, but now they asked and the people said their word! That's it, all the discussions are over!
      2. 75 Sergey 22 May 2020 12: 58 New
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        "The transfer of the Crimean region from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR (also known as the" transfer of Crimea to Ukraine ") was carried out on the basis of a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of February 19, 1954," but "Changing the territory of the republics was not the responsibility of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, determined by Article 49 of the Constitution of the USSR "and" According to Article 18 of the USSR Constitution of 1954 and Articles 16, 19, 22 and 23 of the Constitution of the RSFSR of 1937, the territory of the RSFSR could not be changed without its consent, which could be given by the highest body of state authorities - the Supreme Council of the RSFSR "and" According to the decision of the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation of 21.05.1992 No. 2809-1, Resolution of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the RSFSR of 05.02.1954 "On the transfer of the Crimean region from the RSFSR to the Ukrainian SSR", as adopted in violation The Constitution (Basic Law) of the RSFSR and the legislative procedure are recognized as having no legal force from the moment of adoption "
        Let them go to the garden, take their own, not a stranger.

        Here is such an incident, during the times of the USSR no one paid attention to this, but times have changed.
    2. vavilon 22 May 2020 11: 41 New
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      Justice will be restored when Russia Belarus Ukraine will be as one state and one people, this will be historical justice
      1. 75 Sergey 22 May 2020 17: 29 New
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        And for this we need to make sure that everyone in Russia works and generates income (a national idea, wages must be decent and productivity), when we ride like butter and cheese, then we will reach for us
  • vavilon 22 May 2020 09: 14 New
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    Crimea is wonderful, why did Ukraine stay where it is now? because these are also our people our land our history
    Why are we so cruel to Ukraine?
    1. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 10: 20 New
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      Why are we so cruel to Ukraine?

      Did we really want that ???
      The act of declaration of independence of Ukraine - adopted by the extraordinary session of the Supreme Council of the Ukrainian SSR on August 24, 1991, which proclaimed the independence of Ukraine. Thus, the legal existence of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic was put to an end. The act entered into force upon approval. 346 deputies voted in favor. On August 24, 1991, a blue-yellow flag was raised above the dome of the Verkhovna Rada - the flag of Ukraine, which people brought under the walls of the Verkhovna Rada. Simultaneously with the Declaration of Independence, a Decree on the Declaration of Independence was adopted, which stipulated the holding of a referendum on December 1, 1991 to confirm the Declaration of Independence. December 1, 93% of the population of Ukraine voted for independence.

      And where is our fault here, and how cruelly we treated Ukraine, if 93% of the population were against cohabitation. And now some of us say that it is our people. Somehow everything does not fit.
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        My dear interlocutor
        And how do you explain the result of the referendum of March 91 when all the republics spoke out in favor of preserving the Soviet Union, and if I am not mistaken, more than 76% of the union, what can you say?
        At that time, the central government was inactive in Moscow, purposefully loosening the USSR, separatism spread to the whole Union and the fact that Kiev accepted it didn’t mean anything, and where do you get these figures from 93 percent is completely false, while the whole army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, special services were under control of Moscow dotted and put the Bialowieza Agreement with the signature of Yeltsin
        when all the other republics didn’t know what to do with this independence, At that time they also tried to create the Volga, Ural, and Far Eastern republics of Chechnya, which also voted for independence, but it is now part of Russia, how to explain this correctly?
        I never agree when we do not know how to admit our mistakes and try to blame everything that happened on others.
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          at that time the whole army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and special services were under the control of Moscow a point over and the Belovezhskaya agreement with the signature of Yeltsin put
          You bring everything down on Yeltsin, forgetting about Kravchuk and Shushkevich. There were three of them. The Belovegsky putsch was on December 8, 1991. But let me remind you again
          On August 24, 1991, a blue-yellow flag was raised above the dome of the Verkhovna Rada - the flag of Ukraine, which people brought under the walls of the Verkhovna Rada. At that time, other crucial decisions were made: the deportation of law enforcement agencies (the prosecutor’s office, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the then KGB); It was decided to subordinate all military formations deployed on the territory of the republic to the Verkhovna Rada; form the Ministry of Defense; the government - to begin the creation of the Armed Forces, the Republican Guard and the security units of the Verkhovna Rada, the Cabinet of Ministers and the National Bank. And which army, which GB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which were no longer subordinate to Moscow on December 8.12.1991, XNUMX.
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            What’s the flag here? What kind of people? What are you talking about? Read my comment carefully again
      2. revnagan 22 May 2020 12: 08 New
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        The act of declaration of independence of Ukraine - adopted by the extraordinary session of the Supreme Council of the Ukrainian SSR on August 24, 1991, which proclaimed the independence of Ukraine.

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        Did we really want that ???

        Is not it so?
        Here, admire, "who first started."
        "The Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR is a political and legal act that marked the beginning of constitutional reform and the proclamation of state sovereignty of the RSFSR. The declaration was adopted during the difficult political struggle by the First Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR on June 12, 1990." (cit).
        "The Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR is a political and legal act that marked the beginning of constitutional reform and the proclamation of state sovereignty of the RSFSR.
        The declaration was adopted in the course of a difficult political struggle by the First Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR on June 12, 1990. Voting results: 907 for, 13 against, 9 abstained [1] [2]. "
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_state_ sovereignty of the RSFSR
        If you find even one false word here, I will delete my account from the site.
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          If you find even one false word here, I will delete my account from the site.

          Well what are you! I will even give some quotes. Gorbachev. If a republic emerges using constitutional law, the Union will experience infringement. And if Russia exercises its right of exit? Then - everything: there is no Soviet Union. more... Elzin. Russia needs full-blooded sovereignty! .. Russia has suffered great damage from an obsolete, but still clinging to the life of the administrative-command system. In terms of labor productivity, the republic is in first place in the country, and in spending on social needs - in the last, fifteenth. Not the center, but Russia should think about what functions to transfer to the center. Well, as a result. On June 12, 1990, the First Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR adopted the Declaration on State Sovereignty. Of the thousands who voted against, there were three. (On June 12, 1991, the republic elected its own President, B.N. Yeltsin). From the Declaration on State Sovereignty of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic of June 12, 1990
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      Crimea is wonderful, why did Ukraine stay where it is now? because these are also our people our land our history
      Why are we so cruel to Ukraine?

      Let Crimea go to Russia.
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        I'm all for it ! the fact is that in Russia we have forces that are not interested in the reunification of Slavic peoples
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        Let Crimea go to Russia.

        Crimea, this is Crimea. He has a different story back in 1991. January 20, 1991 in the Crimean region of Ukraine held a referendum on the reconstruction of the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, first plebiscite in the history of the USSR. The general question was posed: "Are you for the reconstruction of the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic as a subject of the USSR and a party to the Union Treaty?" On January 22, 1991, the referendum commission in the Crimean region reported "On the results of the referendum on the state and legal status of Crimea, held on January 20, 1991." Based on the presented protocols of the referendum commissions, the regional (central) commission reported that the number of citizens who participated in the vote was 1 people, which is 441% of those listed. The number of votes cast for the restoration of the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic as a subject of the USSR and a party to the Union Treaty amounted to 019, or 81,37% of those participating.
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  • Campanella 22 May 2020 09: 28 New
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    While Russia will hang between the legs of the powers that be, it will be kicked by everyone. Putin's getting up is reminiscent of the rise of a drunk who wants to get up, but his head does not cook and his legs do not obey ...
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    the fact that if there hadn’t been a coup in Ukraine so Crimea would have remained part of Ukraine, such a statement can only be like diplomatic pasta on the ears of those who do not understand or are afraid to admit that God has drawn the path of Russia, the relay legacy of past generations and history. And this path is the Empire, which must include not only Little Russia, Great Russia and White Russia, but also those lands of the Russian Empire that the ancestors annexed to this Empire as buffer zones to move through these lands the danger of enemy invasion into the Empire to empire to dismember, plunder and destroy. Moreover, if more than one generation of Russian wars and sailors shed blood for these lands of the Empire, these lands were so important for the generations of ancestors who created this Empire. So Russia cannot live without enclaves like Crimea. They should be returned as soon as possible to this reviving Empire, the rebirth of which will end in not a year or two, and after Putin. And it doesn’t matter what power is today in Little or White Russia. These lands must be returned to the new Empire, otherwise Lukoshenko in White Russia is now gradually being converted into Poroshenko in Little Russia and on the outskirts. But the new Empire cannot call its Kaliningrad region yet another Outskirts, because the outskirts of the Empire on which Kiev stands are already called Outskirts. So, through the territory of White Russia the lands of the Outskirts, the lands of Little Russia and the lands of the Kaliningrad region with the lands of Great Russia must be connected so that Russia finally revived its Empire. And do not wait until Lukoshenko finally becomes Poroshenko.
    That's what should be in the minds of politicians such as Nebenzya, and only such thoughts of Russian politicians turning into actions justify them if they diplomatically hang pasta on the ears of local
    liberals, Badera on the outskirts of the empire or the Anglo-Saxons abroad.
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    Opposition forced Yanukovych to escape!
    Yes, he ran like a cowardly coyote! And Putin has sheltered this mess. Take the stolen money and throw it back to Ukraine. So that all subsequent ones know that you need to fight to the end.
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    1. Rosko 22 May 2020 11: 26 New
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      Dream on, the near future will show whose time and where it went. Your last name is not Anderson's case?
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      Get out of your "filthy" pigsty for starters; the Selyaks are illiterate.
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    1. Radius 22 May 2020 11: 00 New
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      "... Who is this ordinary mass, which only after the" pensioner "stirred"
      It is interesting, after what kick, sorry, stimulation !, the "ordinary" mass in Ukraine will stir?
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      the communist state, in terms of its content and content, does not need an opinion ... of the majority of the people (!!).

      What the hell is komunyatskoe? There’s a bar, but there are slaves whose opinion is not interesting to anyone. The bar decided that it would be better for them, that's all, period. Under the communists of the Russian Federation it grew by population, industry, people developed, (like Ukraine, by the way), but these ...
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    And there is nothing to report to them .. Just keep silent and with your lips like laurels explain everything hi
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    1. Elephant 22 May 2020 11: 29 New
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      And it was necessary to chop off gas altogether, how they Crimeans water, light, began to kill the Russians in the Donbass, etc.
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  • Junior Private 22 May 2020 10: 33 New
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    There is a lot of shit in Ukraine, but this is a scoop, lack of education and the dominance of Jews in power. Let's figure it out. But, if you allow me, without you.

    You've already figured it out enough. Enough for three generations. So profucu entire country still have to try. The agricultural industry is breathing in the dark, production has been killed (and what kind of defense industry), armed gangs roam the country, it’s not clear to anyone under control, soon it will be possible to convey greetings to the black soils ... And again, Russia is your fault. Tired of listening to your clinic.
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    Do not allow it - anger will be longer and more blood.

    Here is a typical neohohlyatsky thinking. America commands the Ukrainians, Russia is to blame, but we will figure it out ourselves - we will fill everything with blood and will be angry in our own impotence. Ugh!
  • Elephant 22 May 2020 11: 21 New
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    The coup in Ukraine exposed the problems of the Russian special services, which at the initial stage allowed this obscurantism. The return of Crimea is certainly good for Russia, but bad - now Ukraine is under foreign influence and a hostile belligerent state.
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    Nebenzya: If not for the coup in Ukraine, Crimea would have remained where it was until 2014

    Not so it was necessary: ​​Crimea was UNLAWFUL, in violation of the Constitution of the USSR and the RSFSR, transferred to Ukraine.

    The people said their word in a referendum.

    That's it!
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      1. Olgovich 22 May 2020 13: 07 New
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        not the people, but a particle of those who are sober and expecting millions on their heads))

        It is the people of Crimea, 96%, who said their WORD WORD, the so-called. "Ukraine", which, for some reason, considered Crimea .... to be its own. belay fool lol

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        ) without tourists, without water))

        There are more tourists than before, and the waters are the whole Black and Azov Seas.

        But the pan-and-leg-not panties, no work, no land ...

        The townspeople! lol
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    1. AllBiBek 22 May 2020 12: 48 New
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      Below you is a chair smoking. Please be careful, otherwise the whole hut will burn out - and Muscovites will always be to blame.
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  • AllBiBek 22 May 2020 12: 46 New
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    All Ukraine in one film is the “Queen of the gas station”, oddly enough. The archetype is on the archetype, and "I won’t give money," and "this anonymous calls," and "a woman must have her own little weaknesses," and so on, so on, so on ...

    Even two bureaucrats in embroidered shirts, and the dilapidated bridge collapsed because of them.

    Ie even then it was all, and on a massive scale, since everything was shoved into one not-so-expensive comedy.

    So there is not so much arrogant-Saxon machinations as a mentality. The place there is.
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    Apparently, history does not teach anything.

    The Hauptman of the punitive battalion Roman Shukhevych at the OUN congress in 1940, he bluntly stated: "If half of the 40 million Ukrainians remain, there is nothing to worry about."
    http://www.ukrstat.gov.ua/express/expr2020/02/18.pdf
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      1. alien 22 May 2020 13: 11 New
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        Akim (Akim)

        Dostoevsky Fedor Mikhailovich. The diary of a writer. September - November 1877
        III. ONE WITH ALL THE SPECIAL WORDS ABOUT THE SLAVES, WHICH I HAVE LIKE FOR A LONG TIME TO SAY
        “... according to my inner conviction, the most complete and insurmountable - Russia will never have, and never have, haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them released!
        ... It will be especially pleasant for the liberated Slavs to express and trumpet the whole world that they are educated tribes capable of the highest European culture, while Russia is a barbaric country, gloomy northern colossus, not even pure Slavic blood, persecutor and hater of European civilization ”
        http://az.lib.ru/d/dostoewskij_f_m/text_0500.shtml
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    1. alien 22 May 2020 14: 15 New
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      But the board is yet to come


      V. Zelensky:
      “What the hell is the association with the EU? Which EU? Have you read the agreement? Europe takes our forest, Ukrainian zarobitchans make furniture, and then the EU sells this furniture to our country three times more expensive than for the countries of the European Union. They export our natural resources, make products, and then sell them to us. And what did Ukraine get from this? Loans on enslaving terms. Everything, nothing more ”
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  • Junior Private 22 May 2020 14: 38 New
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    I haven’t been surprised for a long time - why Ukrainians hate the Scoop so much

    Eka you deftly cling to the Ukrainians. They are our blood brothers, unlike the Ragul Nazis. I understand that you are not able to directly answer my questions. You just have to march under the banner of the Polish passive homosexual Bandera-Popel.
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    And who told you such nonsense that Russian citizens are not allowed abroad?

    They let me in, of course. You are just trying to pervert and defame the meaning of what I said above. But here, as Ukrainians, they are not taken that way. And about 1000 euros, salaries in the Russian Federation do not have to lie. 10-15-18 tyr. in the territory of Zamkadia is a normal RFov s / n.

    You have interesting salary statistics. In the Russian Federation. And just like my subordinates, simple hard workers, as well as teachers, doctors, kindergarten teachers in our small town in Siberia, go on vacation abroad. Of course, in basic it is Asia, but there are also many who went to Europe before quarantine. The figures given by you correspond to the average pension. My mother gets just 18 thousand. A teacher with forty years of experience. My place of residence is Siberia, about 100 km from Baikal in a straight line. The lower bar w / board we have in the production of 25 - 30 thousand. This is the second category. Energy I just get more than 1000 euros. Mid-level engineering.