The first fight in the Donbass in 2014: some details

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Speaking of a civil war, it is always extremely difficult to find a “reference point” in it, starting from which a civil confrontation turns into a fierce armed conflict. Who was the first to pull the trigger? Whose blood has spilled before? Each of the parties subsequently blames the transition from words to shooting their own opponents, while being holy confident in their own right. Therefore, we will not now search for who and when the first bullet was fired in the Donbass war, which has been going on for more than six years, but we’ll talk about the clash of the parties, which can be considered its first full-fledged battle.

Perhaps the most correct in this case will be the attempt by the Ukrainian security forces to assault Slavyansk, which at that time was controlled by the Donbass people's militia under the command of Igor Strelkov. All that was before - and a shootout near the city on April 2, when “cool special forces” gathered from all over Ukraine stupidly got into the distribution, and a raid on one of the DPR checkpoints near the village of Bylbasovka, committed on Easter April 2014 and decided to “play at war ”by the Kiev“ pravoseki ”and which ended extremely sadly for them in the end, can only be considered episodic skirmishes, a breakdown.



But on May 2, the considerable punitive forces, which had pulled down to this moment near Slavyansk, decided to take a rebellious city with a “dashing swoop”, whose defenders were clearly not going to add weapon. It must be admitted that the attackers had certain grounds for counting on success. To assault the positions of the militias, many of which, according to the same Strelkova, saw weapons for the first time, in April 2014, soldiers of special units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine, reinforced by an army "airborne assault," were supposed to. Moreover, the main “trump card” of the attackers was to be combat helicopters, at the helm of which were pilots who nominally had combat experience - who served in the UN “peacekeeping” contingent in Africa.

However, either something turned out to be wrong with the pilots, or with technology, but instead of a menacing blow in the best traditions of Hollywood action movies, a disgrace turned out. The first Mi-24P "09-Yellow" from the 16th tactical brigade attacking Slavyansk aviation The Ukrainian Air Force was shot down from MANPADS on the outskirts of the city at the very beginning - literally at 3 a.m. Two pilots died, the third was captured (subsequently was transferred to his own). The second "turntable" - Mi-24P "40-Yellow" in exactly the same way "failed" a little later. Nobody escaped from her crew. The third helicopter was the luckiest of all - the MI-8 knocked out of small arms managed to land.

Unfortunately, things were not so good on earth. According to the recollections of the militia, of the nearly 30 hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers they had in local warehouses, none were suitable for battle — they all turned out to be malfunctioning junk. There was simply nothing to contain the “armor” of the 95th airborne brigade of the Ukrainian army, torn to the height of Karachun. No matter how heroic and stubborn the resistance of the militia fighters was, many of which, including the famous Sergey Zhurikov (call sign "Daisy") were literally dead, but even at the cost of their lives, Karachun could not be kept.

This, in fact, was the only tactical success of the Ukrainian side that day. Unfortunately, the occupation of the hill dominating the Slavyansk subsequently allowed the deployment of artillery batteries there, the fire of which methodically turned the city into ruins and played a significant role in the fact that the militia eventually had to leave it. Nevertheless, by the end of the day on May 2, it was planned as a “last and decisive” assault. Three lost helicopters, the death of five pilots and several paratroopers demoralized the attackers so much that they did not take offensive attempts of this magnitude for more than a month. In the end, Slavyansk, despite the enormous superiority of the Ukrainian security forces besieging him over the militias in numbers, and especially in equipment and heavy weapons, held out until early July 2014.

The main thing that the battle clarified was that the events in the Donbass were not “anti-terrorist operations”, but a real civil war, using all available forces and means available to the warring parties. Kiev has shown that it intends to "appease" the rebellious region with fire and sword, regardless of the number of possible victims, and the defenders of Donbass have proved their willingness to defend their own land without sparing themselves. It was a war ... And then no one could even imagine that it would last not days, not months, but for many years.
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  1. +26
    22 May 2020 16: 06
    And then no one could even imagine that it would last not days, not months, but for many years.

    If at the helm of Russia there were statesmen, everything would have ended long ago. The fear of personal Western sanctions turned out to be stronger ... than the desire to stop the killing of civilians who wanted to return home and, against the background of Crimea, were confident that they would be supported and accepted as part of Russia.
    1. +19
      22 May 2020 16: 16
      I remember how the whole country around the clock around Russia24 watched about Donbass! She was worried ... And then, after the arrival of the famous Swiss, Donbass was simply turned off from the TV and removed from the agenda.
      1. +16
        22 May 2020 16: 40
        The first fight in the Donbass in 2014: some details

        Eh author, author ... You report from the wrong date ... Karachun is already a development.

        It all started on April 20, and the first battle with the "weapon" that the first losses had ...

        1. +11
          22 May 2020 17: 49
          The main thing that the battle clarified was that the events in the Donbass were not “anti-terrorist operations”, but a real civil war, using all available forces and means available to the warring parties.


          Again this "spreading cranberry" about the alleged "civil war" ...

          The author leaves a simple "loophole" for shoving us back into the dill?

          Is it not clear that the citizens of one state of Ukraine, we ceased to be de facto May 11, 2014, after a referendum on the independence of the republics ???
          And de jure we will become full-fledged independent formations when we force Kiev to recognize us ...
          1. +2
            22 May 2020 20: 39
            And de jure we will become full-fledged independent formations when Kiev is forced to recognize us

            And who now recognizes you not as the territory of Ukraine, except for yourself?
            (the question is without a catch, I’m really interested in how the foreign policy work is proceeding in Donetsk)
            1. +4
              23 May 2020 08: 49
              Quote: TAMBU
              And who now recognizes you not as the territory of Ukraine, except for yourself?
              (the question is without a catch, I’m really interested in how the foreign policy work is proceeding in Donetsk)

              Once without a catch, I’ll answer as it is, in spirit ...

              After all, everyone understands that until the outskirts themselves, under duress, give up claims to our territory, will no efforts of the DPR and LPR foreign ministries radically change anything?

              And understand also that this does not mean that the DPR and LPR Foreign Ministries are not doing anything to recognize us as the world, from the "arsenal" of means and measures that are available.
              In a number of countries, unofficial (so far) representations of the republics have been opened; representatives of European parliamentary factions come to us.

              Generally - "Water wears away the stone"
              1. 0
                23 May 2020 19: 27
                Thank you, it’s understandable, but the reasons for the desire to live separately and, as a result, the struggle for it — are such ideas being promoted somewhere (China, Belarus, at least) or is there no money for lobbying?
          2. -1
            12 December 2020 17: 02
            Insurgent
            You are not right! See what question was on the May 11, 2014 ballot. There was NO question of INDEPENDENCE was NOT! There was a question about INDEPENDENCE within Ukraine. Those. the question of gaining independence had to go a CERTAIN path. Having gained independence approximately as the Autonomy of Crimea, you can further raise the question of INDEPENDENCE
            1. +4
              12 December 2020 17: 12
              Quote: andreus1948
              x-ray
              You are not right! See what question was on the May 11, 2014 ballot. There was NO question of INDEPENDENCE was NOT! There was a question about INDEPENDENCE within Ukraine.

              What are you scratching me? You can deceive Russians, and only those who do not know how and what happened.
              I don’t need to snatch my independent propaganda.

              I remember everything. And the Internet remembers and stores samples of the DNR bulletin on May 11, 2014.

              ACT OF STATE INDEPENDENCE , without any Outskirts.

      2. -1
        23 May 2020 10: 56
        I remember how the whole country around the clock around Russia24 watched about Donbass! Worried ...


        Real zombies just watch life through TV.
  2. +7
    22 May 2020 16: 16
    Therefore, we will not now search for who and when the first bullet was fired in the war in Donbass, which has been going on for more than six years, and
    what do you have to find out who the first pulnul? We know those criminals who unleashed this war, and then extended the dead people on whose conscience. These are Turchinov, Poroshenko, and now Zelensky.
    1. +4
      22 May 2020 16: 48
      Quote: Terenin
      what do you have to find out who the first pulnul? We know those criminals who unleashed this war, and then extended the dead people on whose conscience. These are Turchinov, Poroshenko, and now Zelensky.

      It's like that...

  3. +10
    22 May 2020 16: 52
    All that was before - and a shootout near the city on April 13, when “cool special forces” gathered from all over Ukraine stupidly “received the hand”

    It is unnecessary to write something that I personally have not double-checked!
    The militia did not know then that the group was personally commanded by the head of the SBU special operations center (from March 2014 to January 2015), a colonel, and Kuznetsov, the former personal bodyguard of Prudential Yushchenko. Then they lost one killed ((the captain from "Alpha")), Kuznetsov and the SBU colonel Kuksa, were seriously wounded. Later, a conflict arose between these two - who is to blame that the group came under attack, the SBU or the Central Security Service of the SBU.
    In accordance with the decree of the prudent Zelensky, instead of Valery Lutkovskaya, for humanitarian issues in the negotiations of the Contact Group, in Minsk, he is now responsible ... peacekeeper, major general of the SBU, Gennady Kuznetsov!
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  4. +9
    22 May 2020 18: 59
    I still believe that if someone had a stronger Leberger, then back in 2014 it was necessary to drive troops into Donbass and cover it with aviation and air defense with a no-fly zone above it, and calmly set conditions for Kiev, spitting on squeals and shouts ... They weren't scared for the Crimea, did they? They brought in troops, aviation, equipment. They chopped off the peninsula. I don’t think they hoped only for a peaceful sprinkling of ukrovoyaks from his territory. Obviously, they were ready to fight the rebellious. What are you afraid of? Sanctions? So they were already introduced up to that moment already a mountain, and still they would have been introduced and driven. For Crimea alone, sanctions will be introduced for another 100 years. But there would not have been as many deaths and devastation in Donbass as in these 6 years. This creeping trench war has been dragging on for six years. And all 6 years of sanctions and death of people again and again. And all for the sake of the useless Nord Stream 2 and other unprofitable projects of friendship with Europe, for the sake of oligarchic pockets.
    1. +3
      22 May 2020 19: 18
      I disagree on many things. The Russian Federation has no "moral opportunity" to bomb Yugoslavia like NATA. For this it was necessary to turn to the criminal america. And if it were not for RUSSIA, Donbass would have been bombed with European values ​​under the wing of bombers !!!! .... Further, for some reason, already surrounded Mariupol was "returned" ... Many questions. Many. But there are already many victims from the criminal gang of Waltzman and his followers, patrons. And the sanctions are the same foreign faberge (golden parachutes). Here for these Fabergés EVERYTHING is cleared up. ....
      1. +8
        22 May 2020 19: 53
        Further, for some reason, already surrounded Mariupol was "returned" ...

        If Mariupol were not returned, then Akhmetov could not have sold his products. And so he uses the port and is satisfied. Business, nothing personal. Capitalism, however. Purely class interest.
  5. +12
    22 May 2020 20: 48
    The blessed memory of Donbass militias who died in unequal battles for their home, for their family, for their country in battles with the Ukrainian fascist invaders.
    For me, as for a Donetsk citizen, Slavyansk will forever remain a hero city! And I believe, he was, is and still will be ours, and with us!
    And yet ... I like someone or not, but I have to say: Igor Ivanovich Strelkov needs to erect a monument in life! If it weren’t for him and his detachment, it’s not known how the history of the whole Donbass would have turned (east of Ukraine or southwest of Russia ... There is someone who likes to name or designate).
  6. +3
    22 May 2020 21: 01
    There is no more Ukraine, there is a rotten Ukraine * with the support of most of its rabble - this is Truth. The Russian Federation and the Donbass are a single whole HEART and MIND. .
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    1. 0
      23 May 2020 00: 36
      Well, I don’t think that it’s easy and simple but quite realistic if you use all the necessary tools and sensible commanders. Naturally, this is about the Russian army
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    2. +1
      24 May 2020 13: 53
      north wind (which took a lot even for a very small army APU model 2014, when the army was not there)


      How much is this? I know from a fairly competent interlocutor about 3 battalion tactical groups and several company companies. and don’t believe the maps of Ukrainians where for example 5 tank brigade is drawn, RTGr instead, and so on. In aggregate, we barely pulled CC to the combined team.
  8. +2
    23 May 2020 09: 42
    Quote: Σελήνη
    from the couch everyone ardently believes in an easy game walk, without losses, without preparation, and in a very low motivation and strength of the opponent.

    Are you the field marshall with the greatest combat experience? On the strength and motivation of the APU, push your grandmother or shkolota khokhlyatskaya. In 2014, with the beginning of the ATO, the involved units and units drove out of the parks, all the best, (in this case, able to move at least, on a tie,) from the available regular means --- and successfully passed ... 60% of this ,, the best ,,. Losses were made up for with shamanized junk from storage bases - thereby, which even very undemanding potential buyers did not take a glance at during the great sales of the times of Kuchma and Yushchenko.
    1. +1
      23 May 2020 13: 55
      Well, he’s just right, they’ve pulled up the equipment and are buying new weapons, the equipment of the soldiers is much better than in the DPR, the salaries are high
      1. +1
        24 May 2020 13: 48
        Where are the salaries high?
  9. -1
    11 June 2020 10: 16
    Quote: TatarinSSSR
    For the Crimea are not afraid? They introduced troops, aircraft, equipment. Chopped off the peninsula.

    But what about the referendum ????? People ...