USC terminated a contract with a contractor for the construction of a dry dock in Murmansk

The contract for the construction of a dry dock at the 35th shipyard in Murmansk with the company JSC Investments. Engineering. Construction (I. I. S.) is terminated. This was stated by the head of the USC, Alexei Rakhmanov.

According to Rakhmanov, USC terminated the contract with JSC I.I.S. contract for the construction of the dry dock necessary for the docking of the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr. The reason for termination is the unsatisfactory pace of construction. As previously reported, the work is being delayed, the commissioning of the dock was postponed from 2020 to 2021.

However, the head of the USC emphasized that this will not affect the deadlines for the completion of Admiral Kuznetsov, since in the near future the work will continue with another contractor. At the same time, the previous contractor will have to report for all 900 million advance payments received from USC under the contract.

Agreement with JSC I.I.S. was terminated on the eve. We are now discussing the choice of a new contractor. There is a choice of three large Russian companies owned by responsible Russian businessmen. With each of these potential contractors, the need to start docking the ship was agreed - the summer of 2021 in order to be able to deliver it to the customer in time in 2022

- said Rakhmanov.

Recall that the contract for the modernization of the dry dock at the 35th shipyard for docking Admiral Kuznetsov was signed in July 2019 after the flooding of the floating dock PD-50. The modernization itself consists in the reconstruction of two adjacent dry docks of the plant (one 187 m long and 28 m wide at the top, and another 236 m long and 30,8 m at the top, both docks have a bottom width of 22 m) into one large dock by demolishing the partitions between them. As a result of modernization, the largest dry dock in Russia will be created for the reception of large vessels and ships, which will have a length of 335 m and a width of 60 m on the bottom and 70 m on top.

It was planned to complete the full modernization of the dry dock with the upgrade of all hydraulic structures — walls, slipways, dock equipment and other things — during 2020.

Comments

[Theodore]

And the penalty? Will it be refunded, or is it sawn - sawn?

[Bashkirkhan]

Together they probably sawed the rollback, it will be hard to appeal to the court. Now, to the sunken PD-50, the unfinished dry dock was added as expected. Already a couple of excavators were driven to the construction site from the construction of the cottagebroke the partition between two dry docks.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Together they probably sawed the rollback, it will be hard to appeal to the court.

It just appeared a few new dollar millionaires with offshore accounts. Let's cry again, long live Putinism!

[Bashkirkhan]

Well, they will always steal. In any mode. Let's remember that at one time, USC joyfully informed us that the best construction organizations of the country refused their conditions for the modernization of 2 docks in 1, and they found the worst (of those who agreed to their conditions) the worst.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Well, they will always steal. In any mode.

I bet that this is not so, and your "excuse" in the form of "stealing always and everywhere," suggests that you are involuntary accomplice of embezzlement.

[Bashkirkhan]

It's just that in Europe they steal from profits, and in Russia from losses.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

It's just that in Europe they steal from profits, and in Russia from losses.

How do you know how to steal in Europe? But you continue to claim that those thieves are worse / better than local ones.
Why are you trying to "otmazyvat" embezzlers in your own eyes? While trying to convince the public of your mmm, to put it mildly, delusions.

[New Year day]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

It's just that in Europe they steal from profits, and in Russia from losses.

They steal everywhere, but the question all of a sudden is that if THERE he got on this, then he will sit down. In this case, we will be scolded / rewarded / moved by US and, in extreme cases, if he hid, he will be jailed.
As Zheglov said

[mmaxx]

Yes, it’s not visible to be planted. You can’t pester women there already. They will plant.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Silvestr

if there he fell for it, then he will sit down.

[Vasya was here]

Dear Stroporez, give at least one example when, where there was no embezzlement. Before shouting that everything was gone.

[avg]

The best construction organizations of the country refused their conditions for the modernization of 2 docks in 1, and they found the worst (of those who agreed to their conditions).

They built 16 hospitals in 1.5-2 months, which means they can, why is "Gerasim being offended" here. And the USC has really got it, it's time to take their bosses for a certain place.

[mmaxx]

Hospitals on the tender did not build. Therefore, they built it quickly. And with tenders we fight corruption.
Reminds: "We drink wine for health, and we need health to drink vodka." (from)

[Grits]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

The best construction organizations in the country, and they found the best (of those who agreed to their terms) the worst.

For these purposes, the Ministry of Defense was always at hand was Spetsstroy. However, the vicious practice of stupid contests and tenders for the implementation of complex work has penetrated the MO.

[avg]

Quote: Gritsa

However, the vicious practice of stupid contests and tenders for the implementation of complex work has penetrated the MO.

They learned from the Hindus these "dances with tambourines".

[pmkemcity]

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Founders? (1)
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TIN? Xnumx
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Registered capital: 10 rubles.
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[Fantazer911]

Here I read your koment, and I find it funny to become, according to your personal. V.V. Putin led, therefore the word is what, Putinism, is not worth all the leaders to measure with one ruler!

[Civil]

It's okay, they will find another option, for example, to overtake to the Far East or sawed into metal. The main thing is that the financing process go.

[Thrifty]

They will demand a refund of only the amounts spent from the advance payment! They will not demand forfeit, so as not to ruin the contractor-loser outright.

[Grits]

Quote: Thrifty

They will not demand forfeit, so as not to ruin the contractor-loser outright.

And what is there to ruin? Two excavators to the bailiffs to pick up and a table with a telephone from the secretary ...
Director with an accountant, most likely, has long been behind the cordon.

[starshina]

Guess from once? And who the first contractor has found is not responsible for anything ... probably the competition was held or what?

[The leader of the Redskins]

What is it ?! It seems that everything has started to get better, and then from Donbass to the alarm, then they twist their noses!

[Bashkirkhan]

The main military temple is being built, therefore, it will not work out differently with devilry.

[kjhg]

What is it ?! It seems that everything has started to get better, and then from Donbass to the alarm, then they twist their noses!

The main military temple is being built, therefore, it will not work out differently with devilry.

But how can we deal with it, if these demons themselves stir up both the Donbass and the Temple. The main thing is that grandmothers are dripping for them, the rest is secondary for them.

[alexmach]

What is it ?! It seems that everything has started to get better, and then from Donbass to the alarm, then they twist their noses!

Everything is fine. Breaking this contract is just about "everything starts to get better".

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

then twist their nose!

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

What is it ?! It seems like everything’s getting better

And where did you see yours? These "friends" have everything adjusted for a long time, but for the rest there is a news block from the bunker and "assignments".

[Kronos]

What to adjust everything as it was

[starshina]

CORRUPTION - brother .. dark matter ..

[forest1]

Well, ours has become traditional, beloved by all:
"This will not affect the terms of the repair of the ship" (C) USC

[Blackmokona]

The explosion of the ship Admiral of the Fleet Kuznetsov smashed it into fine dust. This will not affect the terms of repair of the ship.

[starshina]

Fabulous - dolbyotyatly ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: forest1

Well, ours has become traditional, beloved by all:
"This will not affect the terms of the repair of the ship" (C) USC

After all, they said

In the near future, work will continue with another contractor.

and he’s good, until it turns out that he’s the same.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Piramidon

and he’s good, until it turns out that he’s the same.

Usual. Just in the circumstances, the rollback amount will increase from 70% to 85%, the rest will be cut later ...., on the electrodes.

[starshina]

How to cut the loot ... then it will become bad ...

[GMM]

Neither the loss of PD-50, nor the fire, nor the coronavirus, nor the blockage with the construction of the dry dock, will in any way affect the deadlines for Kuznetsov ...
Miracles are wonderful in one word!

The guys from the USC are as motivated as gasoline. Oil prices are rising - the price of gasoline is rising. Oil prices are falling - the price of gasoline is rising. Nothing happens with the price of oil - the price of gasoline is still rising.

[NEXUS]

Most likely this event is associated with the laying of a dry dock in China for export. And I believe that the Chinese will do everything on time and relatively quickly. Alas, our manufacturers are far from the Chinese pace of construction.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: NEXUS

Most likely this event is associated with the laying of a dry dock in China for export.

Dry dock export sounds extremely interesting. There is a dry dock in Kronstadt, we can sell it for export

[cniza]

Together with the territory, only with delivery there will be a problem.

[Liam]

Do not judge strictly comrade. It is something like a random phrase generator

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Dry dock export sounds extremely interesting. There is a dry dock in Kronstadt, we can sell it for export

Pickup after prepayment.

[sabakina]

Andrew, most importantly, those 900 million are now found.

[NEXUS]

Quote: sabakina

Andrew, most importantly, those 900 million are now found.

The main thing is not to find, the main thing is Schaub they were not stolen. Do you feel the difference in accents?

[sabakina]

Andrey, 900 million is an advance. And the advance, as you know, is an ephemeral thing. Today is, but tomorrow I do not remember.

[starshina]

Search in the MALDIVES ...

[starshina]

But do not tell me how two docks 22 meters wide after docking will be 60 meters wide?

[aftbreeze]

But what, the partition between the docks has no thickness?

[Grits]

Quote: NEXUS

Most likely this event is associated with the laying of a dry dock in China for export.

I also think that the Chinese floating the dock will build faster than our builders break the wall

[Maks1995]

"It never happened and here it is again!"
Chelovek knew life well and managed to rise on this ....

[Antokha]

Well, what if you hold contests with the maximum price fixed in advance, then the contestants try to make the price slightly lower than that of competitors, but not so much lower. so that it looks like a dumping, and not so low as to miss out on the benefits that the customer can agree to. The result is the same sentences. If the issue price is 100 rubles, there will be offers for 99, 98 and 97. They will choose the one that is 97. And only then the winner will think how to do the job. Under normal conditions, we would need 150, but they gave 97. We will save on wages, the number of employees and equipment. And here's the result. And this is without corruption. Competitions should be held differently. The factor of responsibility of businessmen must be taken into account immediately, as well as the history of the company. With such a name as "Investment. Engineering. Construction" nothing good can be expected. It's like "oil, medicine and stock trading". A set of heterogeneous areas of activity. Those who build are not involved in investments. They are handled by professional financiers. The builders don't invest.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Anton

With such a name as "Investment. Engineering. Construction" nothing good can be expected. It's like "oil, medicine and stock trading." A set of heterogeneous areas of activity. Those who build are not involved in investments. They are handled by professional financiers. The builders don't invest.

I looked at their site - the "Projects" section. Almost everywhere the company acted as a general contractor. So it's not surprising: they took money, hired a company for interest on the amount sharash-dismantling-installation - and then the noise and surprise, sho deadlines are broken and no one works.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: Anton

Contests must be conducted in a different way. The responsibility factor of businessmen must be taken into account immediately, as is the history of the company.

The first - I give a tooth! The second - I swear by my mother! Third - the century of will not to see! But, of course, he must win - these are the cross!

[GMM]

It doesn’t fit in my head like a unique operation in the world that could have no analogues in the world, to unite two dry docks, would fail almost at the root ...

[Kronos]

As a rule, this happens with loud statements

[sabakina]

mmg, well, you can’t do without a quarter of moonshine.

[aftbreeze]

But will not you be too much 2.5 liters?

[New Year day]

Quote: mmg

how could having no analogues in the world, a unique operation to combine two dry docks fail almost at the root ...

[alexmach]

This is also despite the fact that they allocated an advance. Well, they just stole the money and could not do it for free, that's all.

[mmaxx]

According to 223-FZ, it simply should fail. Only such mechanisms are laid there. And all that did not fail is some other layouts. Type of the Crimean bridge and so on.

[viktor_ui]

It seems to me alone that this is not the first time this Rakhmanov has been optimistically lying, how is he breathing? He’s a fairy-tale character still ... a storyteller and a hands-on guide ... https: //www.mzk1.ru/2018/06/aleksej-raxmanov-i-kontrakt-na-stroitelstvo/

[starshina]

Rakhmanov is a relative of OLD MAN - WANTED so everything will be tip-top ..

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Not only one. Besides, now he was revived after the contractor first filed a complaint with the UK against the customer in the person of USC and Zvezda, who do not pay for the work and still have not provided design and estimate documentation for the second phase of construction. Now they will look for another sucker what would be the advance worked and also under the ass with his knee for far-fetched reasons.

[Prahlad]

I must admit that Kuznetsov’s time is up, it’s better to let go. He became too burdensome
For training pilots, you can probably come up with something else. Less costly

[V.I.P.]

You can practice on Indian or Chinese aircraft carriers (planes and aircraft carriers are identical). While their new unparalleled build)))

[senima56]

There was information in the media that JSC "Investments. Engineering. Construction" (I.I.S.) itself filed a lawsuit against OSK and MO! They demand a "fast pace of construction", but they don't pay money!

[Pvi1206]

the largest dry dock in Russia will be created for the reception of large vessels and ships, which will have a length of 335 m and a width of 60 m on the bottom and 70 m on the top.

such objects should be built by state. companies run by specialists, not "talented" managers .... otherwise there will be continuous losses ... as is the case in the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Pvi1206

such objects should be built by state. companies run by specialists, not "talented" managers .... otherwise there will be continuous losses ... as is the case in the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome ...

He-he-he ... actually, it was the state-owned company that started building Vostochny. And precisely according to the results of her work, I had to urgently look for other contractors.

"The status of the sole contractor for work at the Vostochny cosmodrome has been removed from Spetsstroy of Russia. The determination of the general contractor for all works of the second stage of construction in 2016-2025 (the creation of the Angara launch complex to provide manned programs) will be carried out exclusively on the basis of a competition," the politician wrote.
Earlier it was reported that "Dalspetsstroy" (under Spetsstroy of Russia), according to the Investigative Committee, did not provide sufficient production capacity to comply with the pace of work, did not report on the progress and results of its activities in a timely manner; as of March 2015, completed less than 1% of the total volume of work for an amount not exceeding RUB 30 million.

[Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)]

Quote: Pvi1206

state the company

Quote: Pvi1206

led by experts

Comedian you, my friend

[FIR FIR]

Murmansk is the ice-free northern port of Russia. If officials had seen beyond their wallet, they would have long ago built a huge sea trade port in Murmansk with a cargo turnover of 200 million tons. Coal, oil, liquefied natural gas, wood products and another million goods would go from Murmansk to all countries of the world. In Murmansk, it was also possible to build a grand center of ship repair and shipbuilding ....

[Liam]

“Do not worry,” said Ostap, “my project guarantees your city an unheard-of flowering of productive forces.” Think about what will happen when the tournament ends and when all guests leave. Residents of Moscow, constrained by the housing crisis, will rush into your magnificent city. The capital automatically switches to Vasyuki. The government is moving here. The Vasyuki are renamed to New Moscow, and Moscow to the Old Vasyuki. Leningraders and Kharkovites grind their teeth, but they can not do anything. New Moscow becomes the most elegant center of Europe, and soon the whole world

[Tavrik]

And how to ship to (from) Murmansk? There is one railway to the mainland and a dead track. It is not known when the Northern Sea Route will work fully. Nobody seems to need him. The climate is not at all suitable. Peter as a window to Europe in this regard is more convenient.

[Tochilka]

Drive would-be contractors with picks, wheelbarrows and shovels into the barracks and set the task - "to do it in the shortest possible time" instead of life. it is possible to arrange a second barrack for drowned floating docks.

[Grits]

Quote: Tochilka

perhaps a second hut to arrange for drowned floats.

And next to the third one - for those who started the fire. A little further away - the worm. Empty. With a sign "waiting for residents"

[Sergey S.]

USC terminated a contract with a contractor for the construction of a dry dock in Murmansk

I have deja vu, or have we already discussed this .... and is this not news?

[kjhg]

Quote: Sergey S.

USC terminated a contract with a contractor for the construction of a dry dock in Murmansk

I have deja vu, or have we already discussed this .... and is this not news?

Never discussed, and here again

[Sergey S.]

Quote: kjhg

Never discussed, and here again

Found ... Not on Topwar:
"The St. Petersburg contractor did not cope with the megadok for the burned-out aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov. USC is breaking the contract."
17:24 26.03.2020
https://47news.ru/articles/171498/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com

As it became known to 47news, the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) on March 25 initiated a procedure for terminating the contract with the St. Petersburg JSC "Investments. Engineering. Construction" (I. I. S.), which is modernizing a dry dock in Murmansk for the repair of the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov".

[alexmach]

The information that the process "hung" with the dock, about the termination of the contract is news.

[yfast]

Either the cat cat stopped mice catching, or the helmsman got old, or did not create the conditions when it all develops itself, and he catches fish. But there was a time.

[bar]

However, the head of the USC emphasized, this will not affect the deadlines for the commissioning of Admiral Kuznetsov.

We have heard these mantras many times. And when the dock drowned, and when the fire happened, and now again. A sad conclusion suggests itself - in fact, there are no deadlines, and the surrender itself is no longer planned

[75 Sergey]

Oh, come on, there is 10 km. They gnaw at the rock and make docks for the construction of concrete floating islands to liquefy gas and pump it into EUROPA, this is the "contractor".
Back in the fall of 2019. one was coming to an end.

[IC]

First, you need to clarify the wording. In practice, this is the construction of a new dock. Modern contractors have no experience building such structures. Not for nothing, the Chinese are building a dry dock on the Star. One had to be naive people to believe the USC in terms of docking and ship repair. Most likely they want to build in the first turn a semi-finished product in which at least to assemble AWG. Then test the power plant with new boilers. For the effective operation of the new unit, a whole range of measures must be implemented. Order and install new cranes, purchase modern cleaning and painting equipment, equipment and accessories for repairing AWG, etc. In addition, it would be nice to implement a set of measures to create in the dock protection from low temperatures and strong winds.

[mmaxx]

The contract was broken. And who will build the docks? Another tender for the year.

[xomaNN]

If the USC is choosing contractors for the construction of the dock dimly, then it is time to include responsibility not only in the form of fines for organizations. Specifically, with the name, both customers and contractors to send to the bunk.
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There is also a Chinese version of the fight against similar types ... Maybe you should try in the Russian Federation and this experience ???

[lvov_aleksey]

I do not understand why the topic should be raised if something like this:
https://topwar.ru/165223-suhoj-dok-dlja-admirala.html