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The first step to MGCS. Germany and France will determine the appearance of the new tank

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Leopard 2A7V - the latest modification of the existing tank. KMW Photos


Since 2015, France and Germany have been working to create a promising main tank, in the future capable of replacing existing combat vehicles. The joint program MGCS (Main Combat Ground System) so far provided only for preliminary studies, and now moves to a new stage. Based on its results, the final look of the future MBT for the two countries will be determined.

Architecture study


To date, Germany and France have managed to sign a series of agreements defining various aspects of a promising program. The last such document appeared in December last year. It provided for the formation of the ARGE working group (Arbeitsgemeinschaft), which included German companies Krauss-Maffei Wegmann and Rheinmetall AG, as well as the French Nexter Defense Systems. KMW and Nexter participate in the work as a single structure - KNDS.

On May 20, the press service of Rheinmetall announced the start of a new phase of the program. Earlier, ARGE participants agreed to soon launch the scientific research work “System Architecture Definition Study - Part 1” or SADS Part 1 (“Definition of system architecture, part 1”). Now they begin the corresponding work. It is noted that this gives rise to the "demonstration" stage of the MGCS program.

The first step to MGCS. Germany and France will determine the appearance of the new tank
KNDS Early MGCS Concept

The purpose of SADS P.1 is to study the proposed concepts and options for the appearance of the MGCS combat vehicle with the subsequent development of recommendations and requirements. It is planned to study the current and future needs of the armies of Germany and France, the economic aspects of the project, etc. The final appearance of MBT will be formed at the next stages of the program.

Research on SADS P.1 will be carried out by two countries, for which they will create a joint venture. Jobs in this organization will be distributed equally between the two states. In half will be divided and costs of 150 million euros. 18 months are allotted for all work. Thus, in the fall of 2021, KNDS and Rheinmetall will be ready for the next phase of work on MGCS.

20 year plans


Earlier, in March of this year, the German press published curious information about the plans of the Bundestag defense committee regarding the MGCS program. These plans are planned 15 years in advance and provide for the implementation of all stages of research and development work, starting with the current SADS P.1.

The launch of the first part of the SADS study will last until the fall of next year, after which its second phase will begin. By 2024, on the basis of the studies conducted, the final appearance of the promising MBT will be determined. Also during this period, the “technology demonstration phase" of the Technologiedemonstrationsphase (TDP) will begin. During these R&D activities, various components intended for installation on tanks will be tested.


Nexter offer

For 2024-27 years. The "full demonstration phase" of the Gesamtsystemdemonstratorphase (GSDP) is planned - the construction and testing of experimental units and tanks in general. During the GSDP, they will check and fine-tune the entire promising complex, the result of which will be the formation of the final highlight of future serial armored vehicles.

In 2028, they plan to begin assembling pre-production equipment. It will pass full-scale field and military tests, during which it will have to confirm the characteristics and show the possibility of exploitation in the army. Only after this stage will the deployment of a full-fledged series begin.

The transfer of the first production MGCS to the German armed forces is scheduled for 2035. The next few years will be spent on the production of sufficient quantities of equipment, training personnel, etc. The first units equipped with promising tanks reached their initial operational readiness only by 2040.

Budget expenses


The German Defense Committee has already calculated the estimated costs for the MGCS. For all R&D from 2020 to 2028. participating countries should spend about 1,5 billion euros. Costs will be divided in half - approximately 750 million per country. The planned costs for different stages of the program were also announced.


MGCS Tank Option from Rheinmetall AG

For the first studies in 2020-22. Germany will spend approx. 175 million euros. Some of these costs are already provided for by the military budget, but the Committee plans to request an additional 56 million. The next stages of the program, TDP, GSDP, construction and testing of pre-production equipment will require more than 500 million euros per country.

Future costs for the purchase of serial equipment have not yet been determined. This aspect of the program will be worked out later, after the end of the two stages of SADS, when the approximate cost of the finished tank becomes known. In addition, France and Germany still cannot name the required number of new tanks. The same, for obvious reasons, applies to potential foreign customers.

Appearance of the future


The final version of the tactical and technical requirements for MBC MBT MBT has not yet been determined; it will be formed according to the results of current research. Moreover, the most general wishes of the customer in the person of the armies of the two countries are known. The "European tank" of the future should have significant advantages over existing equipment and compete on equal terms with the Russian T-14. It is curious that it was “Armata”, which is ahead of modern tanks in all respects, called the main reason for launching the French-German project.

Customers in the face of the armies of Germany and France want to get MBT with improved protection, enhanced weapons and more advanced fire control. It is also necessary to ensure the possibility of full-fledged work in network-centric troop control systems. It implies maximum mechanization and automation of the main processes.


Rheinmetall also promotes its 130mm tank gun

Despite the lack of clear TTTs, members of the ARGE working group repeatedly showed certain materials and revealed general considerations regarding the appearance of promising MBTs. At different times, at the level of general research, the possibility of deep modernization of existing samples or the development of new ones that are distinguished by the most daring innovations was considered.

As part of preliminary studies in the interests of MGCS, the possibility of a deep modernization of Leopard 2 MBT using various promising components was studied. In particular, the issues of replacing a 120 mm gun with a larger caliber gun were studied. However, the relatively old base platform sharply limits the prospects of such a model.

In 2018, KNDS introduced a tank made by combining the Leopard 2 chassis and the Leclerc turret. This product had some advantages over two basic tanks, but it was a pure experiment. Such a pilot project clearly showed the ability of the two countries to cooperate in the field of armored vehicles, but nothing more.


Rheinmetall combat compartment option

The participating companies also offer various preliminary concept projects. Schemes and three-dimensional images of tanks of a traditional and front-engine layout with an inhabited and automated turret and various options were repeatedly published weapons. Apparently, it is precisely such ideas that will form the basis of the real MGCS project. Which of them are worth attention and will find application on a real tank will be determined during the current SADS P.1 research.

Tank of the distant future


According to current plans, the MGCS pre-production main tanks will leave the assembly shop in 2028, and a full-fledged series will begin only in the mid-thirties. Only at the turn of the forties the German Bundeswehr and the French army will be able to create quite numerous and combat-ready groups of the latest technology of joint development. By this time, 60 years will have passed since the start of the Leopard 2 service, and Leclerc will be preparing for its half-century anniversary.

According to the current work schedule, about 20 years will pass from the start of research and development on MGCS to operational readiness. The rearmament of the two armies is postponed for a long time, but the ARGE working group receives a substantial reserve of time for all work and the creation of a full tank, devoid of shortcomings and shortcomings.

A two-decade journey has already begun with the first step in the form of SADS Part 1. Three companies from two countries are launching the first phase of research aimed directly at creating MGCS. It will be followed by others, which will ultimately lead to the emergence of a completely new “European tank”. Of course, if the countries do not decide to make their own tanks and do not stop cooperation - as it was in the past.
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  1. NF68
    NF68 22 May 2020 18: 12 New
    -1
    It remains to wait for another 15 years or so. And there we see what they will fix.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 22 May 2020 18: 32 New
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      Quote: NF68
      A two-decade journey has already begun with the first step in the form of SADS Part 1. Three companies from two countries are launching the first phase of research aimed directly at creating MGCS. It will be followed by others, which will ultimately lead to the emergence of a completely new “European tank”

      here the main thing is to observe the weight, and the European dimensions, that there were no embarrassments ...
      1. NF68
        NF68 23 May 2020 16: 27 New
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        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: NF68
        A two-decade journey has already begun with the first step in the form of SADS Part 1. Three companies from two countries are launching the first phase of research aimed directly at creating MGCS. It will be followed by others, which will ultimately lead to the emergence of a completely new “European tank”

        here the main thing is to observe the weight, and the European dimensions, that there were no embarrassments ...


        No matter how big politics intervenes again. It can be more dangerous and weight and size, and much more.
      2. blackice
        blackice 24 May 2020 10: 15 New
        -2
        here the main thing is to comply with the weight and dimensions

        Yeah. And then again the wunderwaffle named "Mouse" will work.
        The Germans love that thicker. This is about armor.
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 22 May 2020 22: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: NF68
      It remains to wait for another 15 years or so. And there we see what they will fix.

      They have nowhere to hurry. We are not going to attack them. Their concept yes goodWith the design they have everything "Ales Gut"
      1. NF68
        NF68 27 May 2020 16: 53 New
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        Quote: Observer2014
        Quote: NF68
        It remains to wait for another 15 years or so. And there we see what they will fix.

        They have nowhere to hurry. We are not going to attack them. Their concept yes goodWith the design they have everything "Ales Gut"


        The Germans and the French also do not want to attack Russia, since they do not need it at all. I wanted to recall the opinions of the Germans and the French when developing this tank again, they may not coincide. At least in theory, this is possible.
  2. GMM
    GMM 22 May 2020 18: 41 New
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    It is curious, and by the time when our Armata begins to enter service, how many French and Germans are already riveting new MBTs?
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 22 May 2020 19: 21 New
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      Quote: mmg
      It is curious, and by the time when our Armata begins to enter service, how many French and Germans are already riveting new MBTs?

      Why do you need a pipe shatal?
      1. GMM
        GMM 22 May 2020 19: 37 New
        +4
        I’m a pipe not a marquee, I’ve rocked a boat ...
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 22 May 2020 19: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: mmg
          I’m a pipe not a marquee, I’ve rocked a boat ...

          uh ... it's a yacht ..
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 May 2020 18: 42 New
    -4
    And when they start biting among themselves, how will the tanks be divided? lol
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 22 May 2020 19: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Ros 56
      And when they start biting among themselves, how will the tanks be divided? lol

      they bite in the pack ... but the pack is a pack .... although, the opinion of the former gynecologist on THIS issue would be extremely interesting.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 23 May 2020 09: 08 New
      +1
      They signed an agreement on equal rights to all components of the tank ... they can disperse and each can do their own thing ...
    3. Svetlana
      Svetlana 23 May 2020 14: 57 New
      -1
      As well as the shared economy of 15 republics, with the collapse of the Union.
  4. knn54
    knn54 22 May 2020 18: 43 New
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    It seems that today the military of France and the FRG have not yet developed UNIFIED tactical and technical requirements for the future of MBT.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 22 May 2020 19: 26 New
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      Quote: knn54
      It seems that today the military of France and the FRG have not yet developed UNIFIED tactical and technical requirements for the future of MBT.

      the Germans have their own solid school, and they do not intend to share with some ... neighbors, be calm, the Germans have something to do "under the cloth", we would not lose the pace.
  5. Avior
    Avior 22 May 2020 19: 57 New
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    I don’t really know how they design for 20 years in advance.
    And if, for example, during this time, for the ATGM there will be GOS capable of falling not just into the tank, but into the most vulnerable parts of it?
    Is it a redesign of the tank?
    A very long period at a modern pace of development of electronics.
    1. +5
      +5 23 May 2020 10: 04 New
      +1
      Do you propose to do nothing?
      And KAZ, at least catching ATGMs, is simply obliged to be there.
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 May 2020 10: 44 New
        -1
        The deadline for development is long.
        Did - modify it right away
  6. Kars
    Kars 22 May 2020 20: 17 New
    +2
    A running leopard, a tower from a leclerc, a 140 mm gun, a kaz of some kind, and there will be a normal tank for the next 25 years.
    1. max702
      max702 22 May 2020 21: 00 New
      +2
      It? Like already tried
    2. Vadim_2
      Vadim_2 22 May 2020 22: 41 New
      -2
      Yes, it will pull 90 tons.
    3. +5
      +5 23 May 2020 10: 07 New
      +1
      This will not solve the security problem. Running Leo2 already with A5 at the limit, so in the beak A6 the filler is a secret mixture of nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide and inert gases. Even just for 130mm there is no reserve by weight.
      Well, the Amx56 tower is only good for AZ, so there it is in the powerful cheekbones of the tower .... glove compartments for junk half a meter deep ...
  7. novel66
    novel66 22 May 2020 20: 31 New
    -4
    let the Germans make a tank. and let the Frenchman ditch
  8. Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 22 May 2020 21: 02 New
    -3
    In my opinion, our modernization of the T-72N4, the designer of Yakovlev looks more interesting. Who is not in the know, this designer took part in the development of Object 195 and our "terminator". On the T-72N4, in addition to the main 125mm gun, there is an additional 30mm 2A42 cannon, which is clearly not enough on the T-14.

    1. Momotomba
      Momotomba 22 May 2020 22: 32 New
      -1
      For me it is better to have two cars with different guns than one car with two different guns. In the years 30-40, tanks with several towers and cannons of various calibers were already made, but they abandoned this.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 22 May 2020 23: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Momotomba
        For me it is better to have two cars with different guns than one car with two different guns.

        A 30 mm cannon allows you to solve those tasks for which 125 is redundant (that is, to save ammunition for the main gun), and it is not always possible to get a large cannon everywhere. For example, in the city, the windows of the upper floors. And not only the upper ones, you can't bully the main weapon on the third floor. In general, the same tasks that the so-called "anti-aircraft" machine gun (DShK, Utyos) performed, only with greater efficiency.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 24 May 2020 14: 11 New
          +1
          For example, in the city, the windows of the upper floors.
          You shoot at the load-bearing wall (support column) a couple of floors below. And they add up with the necessary standing above.
    2. +5
      +5 23 May 2020 10: 10 New
      0
      One of the drawbacks of the triple on BMP3 is that in a gunner’s battle it’s psychologically difficult to switch from one gun to another if it’s more logical to work with a different caliber for a new target ... they’re sitting down from what they shot before
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 23 May 2020 10: 47 New
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        Quote: 5-9
        One of the drawbacks of the triple on BMP3 is that in a gunner’s battle it’s psychologically difficult to switch from one gun to another

        For the first time I hear about a similar flaw. In tanks, a machine gun is installed in parallel with the cannon. The gunner himself chooses what to shoot him with - there has never been a problem of choice. Immediately, in addition to a smaller caliber than the main gun, the firing sector is much wider: the second barrel can be lifted up almost vertically into the sky. In an urban setting or in a mountainous area, it’s not an unnecessary opportunity to protect your tank and cover your own.
  9. Observer2014
    Observer2014 22 May 2020 22: 37 New
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    Rheinmetall also promotes its 130mm tank gun
    Why not 140 mm? Tricky infections. Well, judge for yourself. There are more CDs. It’s easier to charge them than 140 mm previously presented by the gun over the years. Our 152 x mm guns are not threatened with a promising weapon. Will they have an intermediate option? Or nothing will change how even here economically exhausted by developments .152 mm excess power. Let's spend money on an intermediate version between 125 and 152 mm.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 May 2020 02: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      .Let's spend money on an intermediate version between 125 and 152 mm.

      Within the framework of the Object 195 project, a 135-mm gun was developed ...
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 23 May 2020 09: 11 New
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      I think that all the same this issue will be resolved at the level of the whole of NATO (count the USA) ... everything is standardized for them. Maybe in general, how to happen with Armata. 120mm
  10. Felix Chuykov
    Felix Chuykov 22 May 2020 23: 38 New
    0
    Atlantis

    To earn the show -
    Over the star of COVID
    Herd thoughts invest
    In the rearview mirror.

    Felix Chuykov

    22 May 2020 years
  11. Non-fighter
    Non-fighter 23 May 2020 12: 01 New
    +1
    During the GSDP, they will check and fine-tune the entire promising complex, the result of which will be the formation of the final highlight of future serial armored vehicles.

    Add a letter pliz. Into the word "look"
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 24 May 2020 14: 14 New
      0
      Add a letter pliz. Into the word "look"
      The typo also worked out well. And not even obscene. wassat