Closes the question of the islands. Japan is concerned about the “territorial” amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation

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As already reported by the Military Review, the Japanese authorities reintroduced the wording “northern territories as an integral part of Japan” into diplomatic documents and the country's development strategy. By “northern territories” in Tokyo, the Russian South Kuril Islands continue to be understood.

In Japan, they thus make it clear that they are ready to use the ornate statements that often come from representatives of the Russian Federation that the issue should be "continued to be discussed in a bilateral format." In other words, as long as Russia does not have a clear (rigid) wording regarding the complete impossibility of “sharing with anyone” its territories, the Japanese authorities will continue to “play” on this topic.



Japanese Asahi Shimbun, meanwhile, comes out with material that says the following:

The coronavirus outbreak has prevented Vladimir Putin, in power since 2000, from voting on constitutional amendments. Voting postponed indefinitely. If it had been carried out, the Basic Law of the Russian Federation would have been amended to allow Vladimir Putin to remain in the presidency until 2036.

But it is absolutely certain that the Japanese elites are worried about the impossible terms of the presidency of Vladimir Putin. They are worried about the amendment, which is directly related to the South Kuril Islands. The so-called "territorial" amendment. Tokyo understands that the concretization of the Russian Constitution in this regard can completely erase Japanese claims, and ultimately it will not be the main one who at one time or another may be the president of the Russian Federation. The amendment completely closes the issue of the Kuril Islands, which Japan is still trying to raise.

That is why the Japanese authorities are in a hurry to "adjust" their legislation - as a kind of response to constitutional changes in Russia. And that is why in the so-called “Blue Book” of the Japanese Foreign Ministry, a record appeared as follows:

The four islands of the Northern Territory belong to Japan.

We are talking about Kunashir, Shikotan, Iturup and the group of Habomai islands.

At the same time, the Japanese Foreign Ministry said that "they are enthusiastically participating in negotiations with Russia on the issue of the ownership of the islands and the signing of a peace treaty."

Recall that earlier, Vladimir Putin suggested that Shinzo Abe sign a peace treaty without any preconditions. However, the Japanese prime minister did not go for it, making it clear that for Tokyo it is not the peace treaty that is important, but the islands.
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  1. +32
    21 May 2020 11: 47
    First, 4 islands, then half of Sakhalin, then the entire Kuril ridge ... and Japan’s intervention in the Far East, this can also be stated as Japan’s unconditional claim to the disputed territories up to Chita ... Where was the Japanese soldier there and the claims of Japan .. .
    I think that the phrase of Ostap B. "And your ears are from a dead donkey ...."
    1. +3
      21 May 2020 12: 01
      So Moscow can be called primordially Japanese territory. The Japanese are completely fumbling. What’s what I think can raise the ancient chronicles? There you can probably find information who actually founded Tokyo. I feel that one of ours. feel
      1. +18
        21 May 2020 12: 12
        Residents of Hokkaido - Ainu, were subjects of the Russian Empire and baptized. They were just carved by the Japs. Loving such ...
        1. avg
          +7
          21 May 2020 12: 39
          Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
          Residents of Hokkaido - Ainu, were subjects of the Russian Empire and baptized. They were just carved by the Japs. Loving such ...

          The Japanese need to periodically remind how many and whom they cut. Yes, it’s not a sin for them to recall Detachment 731 and the monstrous experiments on people. And the Chinese should ask you Sikoko-Sikoko for the coronovirus.
          1. +3
            21 May 2020 12: 53
            There is still a golden coin of the Russian Empire, which the Czechs stole ... And everyone is silent ...
            1. 0
              21 May 2020 19: 08
              The Japanese also put their paws on Russian gold with the help of Kolchak! And they grabbed at least as many Czechs as the Czech State Bank opened on this gold! But when they remind you of narrow-film about gold and offer to turn it around, they immediately hit inexplicably! And as for the Kuril Islands, it’s just necessary to politely declare that Russia can think about the ownership of the islands of Japan only when Japan itself becomes part of Russia! if they open their mouths, it’s only to scare them in fright!
        2. +4
          21 May 2020 16: 26
          Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
          Residents of Hokkaido - Ainu, were subjects of the Russian Empire and baptized. They were just carved by the Japs. Loving such ...

          You asked the Ainu opinion on this?
          The opinion of Japan on the belonging of our territories to me is purple. But these claims (claims), in my opinion, arise solely from the extremely toothless policy of our Foreign Ministry. At the same time, the Foreign Ministry seemed to say something there, but the rest of the ministries and departments remained aloof. Until the Guarantor gives the command. Only after that the COMPLEX OF MERs will be worked out and can be realized. And so the seven nannies will have a child without an eye. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs doesn’t fight alone, although there seemed to be promises.
        3. 0
          22 May 2020 00: 41
          Quote: tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
          Residents of Hokkaido - Ainu, were subjects of the Russian Empire and baptized. They were just carved by the Japs. Loving such ...

          Not all Ains were exterminated - most of them were "integrated". And now, the descendants of the once Ains sincerely consider themselves Japanese.
      2. +1
        21 May 2020 13: 35
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        The Japanese were completely bawdy.

        Yes, they are not hoarse. They take advantage of Russia's uncertainty in this matter.
        = At the same time, the Japanese Foreign Ministry said that "they are enthusiastically participating in negotiations with Russia on the issue of the ownership of the islands and the signing of a peace treaty." =
        Why negotiate on this topic? So ours does not exclude the possibility of some concessions to the Japanese, as the Chinese, Norwegians, and mattresses have already done?
      3. +2
        21 May 2020 16: 50
        Let them say thanks that we did not land in Hokkaido in 1945.
        But such plans were ...
        Now - a quarter of Japan would be part of the Sakhalin Oblast.
        Or the Japanese land? .. wink
    2. +6
      21 May 2020 12: 07
      It seems to me that after the start of the intervention on 4 islands, they will have no more than an hour to get there from all the other islands. Because these four islands will not come under fire as our territory. It will take half an hour to debate in government offices, 10 minutes to finish the order and 20 minutes, actually, to fly several missiles to them ... And the question with them will be resolved finally, to everyone’s joy. It’s the only correct way to prevent Americans from getting caught if they don’t wash off right away.
      1. +1
        21 May 2020 12: 18
        Not one swara can do without stripes !!! So, on them in the first place)))))))))
        1. +3
          21 May 2020 12: 28
          Closes the question of the islands. Japan is concerned about the “territorial” amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation

          Japan, in turn, opens the issue of "Northern" and other territories.

          In a policy document by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Japan reaffirms its claim to the Northern Islands
          THE ASAHI SHIMBUN May 20, 2020

          Past editions of the Diplomatic Bluebook Diplomatic Book are on a shelf in the library of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Tokyo. (Naotaka Fujita)

          In its annual Diplomatic Book on Foreign Policy, issued May 19, Japan reiterated its rights to sovereignty over the disputed Northern Territories last year, in an attempt to calm Russia, it excluded [from the document] mention of this problem.

          The 2019 version excluded all references to the four islands off the coast of Japan's main northern island of Hokkaido, and it only emphasized the importance of negotiations on a peace treaty with Russia.

          The peace treaty, formally ending the hostilities associated with World War II, is seen as an important step in Russia reaching an agreement on the return of all or some of the islands captured by Soviet troops at the end of the war.


          Full: http://perevodika.ru/articles/1209323.html
      2. -9
        21 May 2020 12: 38
        Yes, there cheers patriots in 3 minutes will destroy all
      3. -2
        21 May 2020 12: 56
        Stupid ... They have one real way out - to take an example from the Crimea. And then the first normal wave or the activation of the volcano - for them, the last trench to look at the blossoming sakura ... In their place, you need to think about the soul. And immediately a bunch of questions and complaints to the neighbors will disappear. IMHO.
      4. 0
        22 May 2020 00: 45
        Quote: Victor67
        It seems to me that after the start of the intervention on 4 islands, they will have no more than an hour to get there from all the other islands. Because these four islands will not come under fire as our territory. Half an hour will go to the debate in government offices, 10 minutes to finish the order and 20 minutes, actually, to fly several missiles to them ...

        Not at all. It’s just that our Foreign Ministry will express concern, convene the UN Security Council, the pro-Western countries will express their support for the Yap, China will abstain and everything will die out.
    3. +3
      21 May 2020 12: 23
      Quote: Invoce
      I think that the phrase of Ostap B. "And your ears are from a dead donkey ...."

      So then it is, only you inattentively read the article.
      And in it there are two main messages 1) come to the vote for the scary.
      2)
      At the same time, the Japanese Foreign Ministry said that "they are enthusiastically participating in negotiations with Russia on the issue of the ownership of the islands and the signing of a peace treaty."

      Now explain, with what fright and who in general was authorized to negotiate with the islands about Japan?
      The Constitution of the Russian Federation clearly states the indivisibility of the country!
      Why the hell are they again pushing agitation for "voting" to us?
      1. 0
        21 May 2020 19: 02
        Why the hell are they again pushing agitation for "voting" to us?



        )) So you do not read ...
    4. -2
      21 May 2020 12: 41
      Good afternoon, and you're kidding in vain .. It's just a matter of time ..
      1. +1
        21 May 2020 13: 59
        And what is “wrong” in the new amendments to the Constitution, which allegedly “worried” the Iponians? There, in the amendments, on the contrary, the phrase about the unconditional inviolability of territorial value (on which our modern rulers already laid down, remember Damansky and Bolshoi Ussuriysky) was removed, and it will be written in the "new edition" that this "territorial integrity is inviolable, except ... ..in cases of demarcation, settlement of territorial and political disputes with neighboring countries. " That is, on the contrary, the Japanese and other contenders for Russian lands are left with a "constitutional" loophole. So, the attempt of the author of the article to covertly attract the audience to the "voting for the king" of the type, look, what "amendments" are "necessary" - the people of Donetsk are already worried, they will not work. The people have already read these amendments and understood what it is ... tongue
    5. 0
      21 May 2020 14: 20
      Quote: Invoce
      Where was the Japanese soldier there and the claims of Japan ...

      When the claims were made to Nevelskoy, Nicholas I said "Where the Russian Flag is placed, there is Russian land." And when the Japanese soldier got kicked, nobody else considered his pretensions. It was the same not only with the Kuriles and Sakhalin. The destinies of the Kuriles and Okinawa intertwined long ago. When in 1956 Japanese Prime Minister Ichiro Hatoyama almost agreed to sign with Moscow not a Declaration, but a full-fledged Peace Treaty in exchange for the transfer of Shikotan and Habomai, the Americans threatened that in this case they would not return Okinawa and the neighboring Ryukyu archipelago to Japan. which remained occupied even after the official end of the American occupation in 1952. However, Okinawa was essentially never returned to the Japanese. And there are many such islands and territories where no one is looking at the claims of the Japanese soldier, especially China and Korea, which after September 3, 1945, received everything that Japan gained through back-breaking labor.
      1. 0
        21 May 2020 18: 11
        you forgot to mention in the 90s Kozyrev even voiced the price tag for two islands and didn’t work together at the last moment ... chaos and confusion and vacillations then distributed the territories ... now if the Kremlin does not close this issue and periodically speculates it means for some goals - the time has not come - they will give a price tag on how to remove the American fleet investments in the Far East bridges on Sakhalin Hokaydo will revive the Baikal-Amur Maintained will earn the Far East. two islands for joint use with some kind of status there, after a hopping time years on the Hong Kong Taiwan Taiwan .... yes, right now they will take charge of me but you couch patriots have you been here? How do you see the Far East Primorye in 50-100 years? . with Vladik Nakhodka, a third of the population has already run away; no, the Japanese auto industry has closed ... no hectare duty-free zp ... will not return the population ...
        1. -1
          21 May 2020 19: 42
          Quote: kitty
          you forgot to mention in the 90s Kozyrev even voiced the price tag for the two islands and hands on, but at the last moment did not grow together.

          Precisely forgot about those scum, thank God that flew by.
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  2. +3
    21 May 2020 11: 47
    However, the Japanese prime minister did not go for it, making it clear that for Tokyo it is not the peace treaty that is important, but the islands.
    Kemska volost! feel We will not scatter the lands "
  3. -12
    21 May 2020 11: 49
    Yeah. came to the Japanese, this is a constitutional breakthrough. As soon as we accept it, Russia will turn from an island of prosperity and wealth into a white swan and here there are already 25 million high-tech jobs, a pension of 70 and 75, respectively. That's right, life expectancy will increase by 2100 until the end of the employment contract. Have the Japanese eaten?
    1. +1
      21 May 2020 14: 27
      Quote: Civil
      Yeah. came to the Japanese, this is a constitutional breakthrough.

      And you BELIEVE this ????
      1. 0
        22 May 2020 09: 27
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Civil
        Yeah. came to the Japanese, this is a constitutional breakthrough.

        And you BELIEVE this ????

        Yes not - it’s like a sarcasm like that
  4. 0
    21 May 2020 11: 50
    casuistry ... both sides are dragging on time ... maybe it will somehow resolve itself ...
  5. +7
    21 May 2020 11: 50
    Japan is concerned about the “territorial” amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation

    but we don’t care about Japan. let yourself be fucked
  6. +9
    21 May 2020 11: 51
    It is high time to CLOSE this question. Once and forever. Give Japan the only non-freezing straits for the Pacific Fleet to enter the Pacific Ocean, not to mention the "rare earths" deposit on Iturup ... well, then the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will cease to be our inland sea, to the delight of Japanese poachers!
  7. +1
    21 May 2020 11: 55
    That is why the Japanese authorities are in a hurry to "adjust" their legislation - as a kind of response to constitutional changes in Russia.

    And how will this help them?
  8. +3
    21 May 2020 11: 55
    Is it not time for Lavrov to demand the return of Russia to Japan by Hokkaido, as part of Russian territory, immediately, and without any conditions? ??
    1. -1
      21 May 2020 12: 42
      (Isn’t it time for Lavrov to demand the return of Russia to Japan by Hokkaido, as part of the Russian territory, immediately, and without any conditions? ??) Cavo? It's funny! laughing We cannot return the property of property from amers! all chew ..... opley! concerns alone! Our current Foreign Ministry CAN'T NOTHING ANYTHING! hi
  9. +1
    21 May 2020 11: 59
    Japanese. You should not comb iturup, otherwise you will be full of shikotan.
    And in general, it's time to give these islands a new name, for example, the Crimean ridge.
  10. 0
    21 May 2020 12: 01
    And why yupps do not care that their land is still trampled by a mattress boot ??? OUR SMOILS, AND EVERYTHING.
    1. 0
      21 May 2020 14: 04
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Yupps do not care that their land is still trampled on a mattress boot?

      So something else. You do not understand. This is democracy. lol
  11. -1
    21 May 2020 12: 11
    In other words, as long as Russia does not have a clear (rigid) wording regarding the complete impossibility of “sharing with anyone” its territories, the Japanese authorities will continue to “play” on this topic.

    This is just the same.
  12. 0
    21 May 2020 12: 14
    Tokyo was built on primordial Russian lands, and Japan is generally part of the Russian islands. And let them learn the song "Three Tankers" and sing in chorus on Saturdays and Sundays. The islanders got pissed off amid the virus.
  13. -1
    21 May 2020 12: 24

    Yapy work directly with our population, for example, in any Russian post office there is direct advertising of Japan and delivery from the country of rising and blah blah blah .... and when you pay, you put your hard-earned money on a special receiver (looks like a transparent plate with an advertising insert below) next to the cashier’s window.
    And now attention, advertising on this plate with a "golden" border, with meaning, so to speak, about Japan and is indirectly delivered from ...
    The theme of the loudness and claims of the Japanese and affordable Japanese cosmetics in the nearest post and other pleasures for a happy layman, and all this will become even more accessible, this message is quite likely and not ambiguous ...
    1. +1
      21 May 2020 13: 03
      Quote: Igor Polovodov
      Yapy work

      Come on, a wave to catch up with something ... fellow A bunch of laymen of the liberoid kind do no weather. Representatives of these are also present here - and how much have they gotten themselves here? Here it is. Yes
      This category, as a rule, rustles only until the first shout, yeah. Petty bourgeoisie ... Yes
      1. +2
        21 May 2020 14: 07
        Quote: Paranoid50
        A bunch of laymen of the liberoid kind do no weather.

        The weather does not, but the atmosphere spoils. lol
  14. -2
    21 May 2020 12: 25
    Yeah, I see the fuss again .. June 24th, all things) Again Bezrukov will be driven by a zombie man) And the author is right there)
    Nothing lasts forever in our constitution - and since our guarantor so easily rewrites all this for himself, and even in bulk, then there is zero sense in this amendment. If they want to sell / give / transfer, they will either find another wording - in which it will be "a territory of joint use with a special status", or they will completely grind some kind of "referendum type" sewn with white threads with voting at home / by mail, etc. in a month or two where everything will be on the ointment.
    Stop believing in this nonsense. Only a tough popular position will stop these incentives, and not crocheting ..
  15. +2
    21 May 2020 12: 32
    Japan is concerned about the “territorial” amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation
    Let them not worry)) bully , the islands will not receive.
    1. +2
      21 May 2020 12: 41
      But they can get what they would not want to receive at all. laughing
      1. +2
        21 May 2020 12: 52
        The Captive (Airat) Today, 12:41
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        But can get thatthat you don’t want to receive at all. laughing
        But THIS !, forever please! wink Let them stand in line so that everyone gets it. bully
  16. +4
    21 May 2020 12: 41
    In other words, as long as Russia does not have a clear (rigid) wording regarding the complete impossibility of “sharing with anyone” its territories, the Japanese authorities will continue to “play” on this topic.

    The question arises, why not this rigid, clear and understandable wording? Everyone would calm down right away.
    1. -1
      22 May 2020 09: 38
      In diplomacy, there are no rigid and clear formulations; it was you who confused them with military orders.
      Diplomats need to AGREE - and these are always some counter offers. Otherwise, no one will come to an agreement with you - it makes no sense
      In Japan, every prime minister comes with the slogan - I will return the island !!
      If we are negotiating with him, his ratings among the population are growing, if not leading, they are falling. We have such influence on the DOMESTIC policy of Japan, if ....
  17. +2
    21 May 2020 12: 49
    Let them worry further! What do we care?
    1. 0
      21 May 2020 12: 54
      Foreman (Foreman) Today, 12:49
      0
      Let them worry further! What do we care?
      Their "excitement" often storms the Sea of ​​Japan. wink
  18. +2
    21 May 2020 13: 03
    Japan is a grandmother, well, the samurai wrote that there are four islands, well, let them be content with this. Actually all the Kuril Islands belong to us and in our possession. All point, but for the amendments to the Constitution we vote and finally approve them ours.
  19. 0
    21 May 2020 13: 23
    It would be better for the Japanese to think about who they will look for "shelter" from if the US suddenly decides that the presence in the region is too expensive ...
  20. +2
    21 May 2020 13: 51
    Tokyo understands that the concretization of the Russian Constitution in this regard can completely erase Japanese claims,


    Why can it? will put an end to.
    1. +1
      21 May 2020 18: 03
      Quote: cniza
      will put an end to.

      Victor hi de jure, a de facto point are the traditional allies of the Republic of Ingushetia / Union / RF ...
      1. +3
        21 May 2020 18: 13
        Greetings! hi
        Yes, continuity must go on ...
  21. 0
    21 May 2020 14: 15
    The Japanese have a "southern territory" - the island of Okinawa under the American bases. Give the Americans and the "northern" under their bases ...
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    0
    21 May 2020 14: 18
    as long as Russia does not have a clear (rigid) wording regarding the complete impossibility of “sharing with anyone” its territories, the Japanese authorities will continue to “play” on this topic

    As I understand it, after the adoption of amendments to the constitution of the game should end?
  23. 0
    21 May 2020 15: 10
    The proposed amendment will in no way prevent squandering territories: there was a wonderful reservation about re-marking borders.
    1. -3
      21 May 2020 16: 25
      Not only is there a special clause in the new amendments to the Constitution, according to which any part of the territory can be transferred to another country, there is also a cunning amendment that one subject of the federation can, guided by different "requests of the workers" and "improvement of the economic situation" , to cut off absolutely any part of another subject of federations and in addition to introduce special conditions of "regulation" on it. And they also dragged through the law on TORs (territories of advanced development for 50 years). Actually, the Iponians were attracted to create TORs there, followed by "it is clear what", however, the Iponians did not understand what TORs were, or rather understood that it was as long as P and the company were in power, while others would come and TORs could be canceled. and irreplaceable, and the population will be pressed to the nail so that they will not be able to bark, then the Japanese will think about the TOPs with subsequent transfer. More precisely, according to the new amendments to the Constitution, they will first create an area with special joint management, well, then ... and then it will be seen how and what ... Personally, I have no doubt that the islands will "float away" to the Iponians -Now the gentlemen have no money left for their Wishlist due to the drop in income on all fronts, and the poor population is simply so poor that they have to fumble in their pockets without much profit ... and here, the islands ... and other territories ... not in vain, oh not in vain, they suddenly began to talk about concessions, the sale of land and real estate to foreigners ...
  24. +2
    21 May 2020 16: 06
    I do not understand!
    What the hell is a peace treaty for us? Is it not we who defeated (I say, the main contribution of the USSR to the Victory) fascist Germany, we defeated the Kwantung Army, the most powerful and efficient army of imperial Japan. Both Germany and Japan signed a surrender ... what peace treaty should we sign with Japan? Did we sign such an agreement with Germany?
    1. 0
      21 May 2020 16: 55
      I do not understand!
      What the hell is a peace treaty for us?


      And what is there "incomprehensible"? The unsigned "peace treaty" is just a pretext for voicing the "theme", and for the internal user, for the Russian man in the street. Remember Mikhail Gorbachev - he bought himself a "German residence" for the reunification of Germany. And, there will be a "reunification of Japan" ... You never know how it will all turn out in Russia, then ... wink
  25. +1
    21 May 2020 16: 14
    By “northern territories” in Tokyo, the Russian South Kuril Islands continue to be understood.

    A joke from the 90s ...
    -Ukraine! When will you return Crimea to Russia?
    -As soon as you return the Kuril Islands to Japan ... laughing laughing laughing
    Crimea is already ours, therefore Japan owes us Hokkaido !!! We do not pretend to Honshu ... laughing
  26. +1
    21 May 2020 16: 22
    "Return of the Northern Territories" = return of Northern Hokkaido to its native Russian harbor !. We can hack it to the Japanese on their noses!
  27. 0
    21 May 2020 17: 45
    Now they just say, what will happen if they land on the islands?
    How to get them out of there then?
    I feel the thing is going on, the Japanese understand that they will not throw a nuclear bomb at them, and the Russian fleet in the Pacific is too weak to compete with the Japanese.
    1. +1
      21 May 2020 17: 58
      Quote: Herman 4223
      understand that they will not throw a nuclear bomb at them
      Some kind of unfounded optimism.
      1. 0
        21 May 2020 20: 33
        If not, then the whole world will do it.
    2. +1
      21 May 2020 18: 22
      So we'll see, but you must not concede otherwise everyone will want everything. And this will be a test for the authorities, because lately there have been too many empty talk and threats, but in reality it’s empty. USSR such things and thoughts the Japs would not even allow to start
  28. 0
    21 May 2020 18: 18
    Well, if Japan is important not peace, but the islands themselves, so let them go to hell. They already attribute to themselves and conduct a rather negative policy towards Russia, so there is nothing to bend under them. Everyone wants to grab a piece of cake
  29. 0
    21 May 2020 19: 14
    Are you all about? What is Japan? What is the answer in the form of war. Krimlians will not keep their fosterlings at the sight of Russian ballistas. Moreover, distance learning has paid off according to Pucinega. Everyone lives in different realities.
  30. +1
    22 May 2020 03: 20
    - "while in Russia there is no clear (rigid) formulation regarding the complete impossibility of" sharing "their territories with anyone, the Japanese authorities will continue to" play "on this topic" - it was smart enough to make a statement about Crimea !!! - they made noise and fell silent except for the panheads ..
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  33. 0
    22 May 2020 17: 24
    At home there are Grandfather rewards. For the liberation of Korea and for the victory over Japan. I understand correctly? There is no peace treaty, there can be more medals. ???
  34. 0
    23 May 2020 07: 36
    Yes, rename these islands to Ivanova, Petrov and Sidorov, and the fourth to call the common Muslim surname. So that nothing Japanese sounds in them!