The Ukrainian side reported the death of the commander of the battalion "Lugansk-1"

Another aggravation in the area of ​​the demarcation line in the Donbass manifests itself these days - on the sixth anniversary of the outbreak of armed conflict. The shootout manifests itself both in Donetsk and in Lugansk directions.

The Ukrainian side publishes data that suffered losses. In particular, the deceased commander of the battalion "Lugansk-1" is reported. The name of this person is Sergey Gubanov. According to the Ukrainian side, Gubanov received a shrapnel wound in the vicinity of the village of Trekhizbenka (Novoaydarsky district). It happened in the evening - around 22:30 Moscow time. It is added that three more Ukrainian security officials were injured.

When journalists asked representatives of the National Police of Ukraine to clarify under what specific circumstances the battalion commander was killed, no explanation was given. They got off with the general phrase: "Circumstances are being clarified."

At the same time, representatives of the LPR in the Joint Center for the Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire Report on violations by the Ukrainian side. It is noted that the Ukrainian military fired on the territory of the village of Kalinovka. In this case, LNG was used - an easel anti-tank grenade launcher.

Meanwhile, the military intelligence of the DPR received information about activity in Ukrainian positions. So, the APU is engaged in the transfer of air defense systems, tanks and other military equipment in the territory adjacent directly to residential buildings of settlements in the territory of Donbass controlled by them. In particular, two armored vehicles and one air defense system are located in the Broad Beam, three air defense systems - in Konstantinovka, two air defense systems - in Kalinovo. Also, two APU tanks were delivered to Grigorovka. In Mironovka concentrated 7 infantry fighting vehicles.

Recall that on the eve of the authorities of the DPR and LPR ordered to increase the combat readiness of the republican troops in connection with obtaining information about the new activity of the Ukrainian military along the demarcation line.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

Another bury was scorched.

[Hto tama]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Another bury was scorched.

Most likely they got drunk again, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine they like to write off the victims of drunken showdowns for combat losses

[Mavrikiy]

Do you want to say the trophies are not divided?

[Hto tama]

Most likely he found it difficult to answer the traditional question in such situations: - "Do you respect me?"

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Hto tama

Most likely he found it difficult to answer the question: - "Do you respect me?"

Or "Crimea is ours?"

[Fitter65]

Quote: Hto tama

Most likely he found it difficult to answer the traditional question in such situations: - "Do you respect me?"

Most likely I could not quickly and clearly answer whose Crimea ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Do you want to say the trophies are not divided?

What trophies can they have if they do not go forward and are not involved in a direct clash with the Luhansk people?

UNDERSTANDING WITH FORMULATIONS!

Do not well-mindedcall trophies ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

It’s not necessary to call it trophy.

Robbers, Moroders, rapists. There are no trophies in a civil war.

[Insurgent]

Quote: tihonmarine

There are no trophies in a civil war.

About what "civil war" you speak ? How much can this stupidity be duplicated?

Is it not clear that since the referendum on independence from Ukraine, DPR and LPR "de facto"(unfortunately not yet"de jure"but soon become) DO NOT ARE THE TERRITORY OF UKRAINE, and we, the owners of passports of the republics and the Russian Federation-are no longer its citizens ???.

Actually, the "Square" itself considers us as such ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

What "civil war" are you talking about?

Sorry, wrong. This means a war of conquest. I figured it out here, but I still don’t enter what was the war in Western Ukraine after 1944.

[Insurgent]

Quote: tihonmarine

 I figured it out, but I still don’t enter what was the war in Western Ukraine after 1944.

Having difficulty defining terminology?
So I will explain to you ...

That in Western Ukraine, that in other regions of the USSR, during the Second World War, and at some interval after it, a struggle was fought (not war!) Against the gangster and nationalist underground, and the fascist shortcomings ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

the struggle (not war!) with the gangster and nationalist underground, and the fascist shortcomings.

This is clear. So it is from our side, and here is how they look at it from their side.

[Insurgent]

Quote: tihonmarine

This is clear. So it is from our side, and here is how they look at it from their side.

Why do you need this? Want to engage in dialogue with rabble?

We have our own vision of events, supported by the decisions of Nuremberg, the rest of the "opinions" do not sway us. Never...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

Why do you need this? Want to engage in dialogue with rabble?

Yes, no, my father’s brother entered into dialogue in 1945 when he was appointed after the Victory, to Lvov as commander of the NKVD battalion to combat banditry.

[Insurgent]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, no, my father’s brother entered into dialogue in 1945 when he was appointed after the Victory, to Lvov as commander of the NKVD battalion to combat banditry.

So you should definitely understand what these questions are for: " how they look at it for their part" ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

So you should really understand what these questions are for: "how do they look at it from their side"

I understand one thing that they did not allow uncle and others to finish the necessary business. And now we are slurping a spoon, and you are especially in Donbas, at how they look on their part. They have a different light perception than people.

[revnagan]

Quote: Insurgent

backed by the decisions of Nuremberg,

And what was the decision of Nuremberg for Bandera? As far as is known, they were not recognized there as accomplices of the German Nazis ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: revnagan

And what was the decision of Nuremberg for Bandera? As far as is known, they were not recognized there as accomplices of the German Nazis ...

And the backbone of the Bandera members of those who served in the SS and the "Galicians" who had not been killed, does not make them automatic to the accomplices of the fascists?
It’s clear to me like God's day ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

And the backbone of the Bandera members of those who served in the SS and the "Galicians" who had not been killed, does not make them automatic to the accomplices of the fascists?

Of course makes not only accomplices, but also killers. But after the Victory, members of the SS formations appeared on the territory of Austria in the zone of occupation of the allies, and although they caused persistent hostility and disgust among the Western allies. All Soviet citizens who were in the service of the Nazi formations, according to the agreements, were to be extradited to the Soviet Union, but the Vatican stood up for Galicia. Do not forget that most of the Ukrainian SS men were Greek Catholics; they were not recognized as citizens of the USSR. The fact that the allies were confused by the status of these people, called Galicians, allowed many of them to avoid forcible deportation to the Soviet Union. Despite the fact that they served as part of the Waffen-SS, and at the end of the war they suddenly declared themselves citizens of Poland. The Polish general Anders proposed to forgive them their past, and given their potential usefulness as true anti-communists, he supported their claims that they are Poles. So that they calmly lived their lives, and the Nuremberg Tribunal did not touch them.
It is interesting that in the territory of the Soviet Union there were many former fighters of "Galicia". Some were captured, others returned after the war, deciding that life in exile is not for them. No mass executions took place; most of them, having served their prison term, led the lives of ordinary Soviet citizens in Galicia for many years.

[revnagan]

Quote: tihonmarine

but the Vatican stood up for "Galicia".

You are not talking about a little bit. All ersatzSS formation, like the SS itself, were recognized as a criminal organization. We are talking about the crimes of the Bandera UPAR, which Nuremberg did not condemn as accomplices of the Nazi

[revnagan]

Quote: Insurgent

doesn’t automatically make them fascist accomplices?

Only "de facto". But you are referring to the decision of the Nuremberg Tribunal, where war criminals were tried. But the UPA was not tried like that .

[Lelek]

Quote: tihonmarine

So it is from our side, and here is how they look at it from their side.

Vlad, all the accomplices of Nazi Germany were officially recognized by the "Nuremberg Trial" as criminals, and the Bandera, UNA, UNSO swore allegiance to the Fuhrer and Nazi Germany. So, their "gaze" is the gaze of Hitler's fascist criminals. It is a pity that I have to explain this.

[gsev]

Quote: tihonmarine

and here is how they look at it from their side.

I had to talk with the descendant of the beseka general of the OUN underground. Most of all, he boasted that after his release from prison, his grandfather was settled on a collective farm, where he could set himself up so that ordinary collective farmers worked in his place. The war was for the right to have slaves. Then they hoped to have slaves of Western Ukraine, now they dream of mocking at Russian and Eastern Ukrainians. In principle, after 1991, many heads of collective farms and factories in both Russia and Ukraine considered the dream to be feasible that the bosses would exploit ordinary workers with the efficiency of their Western colleagues, and these workers would work with communist enthusiasm like the Chinese.

[210ox]

What the hell is this diving vest pulled ?!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

What the hell is this diving vest pulled ?!

"Ramses" beguiled the Sumer. Wearing Soviet paraphernalia in Ukraine is punishable by law. This is what a decent Sumer should wear.

[bistrov.]

Quote: tihonmarine

what was the war in Western Ukraine after 1944.

Until May 9, 1945, World War II, after the Third World War, which the United States and Great Britain unleashed. Remember Churchill's speech in Fulton.

[Kronos]

And who recognized the DPR except South Ossetia?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kronos

And who recognized the DPR except South Ossetia?

And who recognizes the Republic of China (Taiwan), in Europe it is recognized only by the Vatican.

[Kronos]

Yes the situation is the same no recognition no state

[Insurgent]

Quote: Kronos

Yes the situation is the same no recognition no state

А we will be the state,united Russian state...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

And we will be a state, a single Russian state ...

Whatever it is now, it will come to this anyway. It should be so.

[Kronos]

Russia only needs the rest of Crimea so that Ukraine does not join NATO

[revnagan]

Quote: Insurgent

And we will be a state, a single Russian state ...

Mandatory In parallel measurement .If Russia needed Crimea, they already recognized it as theirs (though no one in the world agrees with this anymore. Even Belarus. Any unrecognized Ossetia - RF puppets do not count). And you were needed as a compress to delay heat from the Crimea.

[NKT]

Is recognition itself a legal necessity and how does it correlate with international law?

If, for example, international laws are violated, but a majority of states recognize independence. Is this recognition an indulgence? Or another situation, international law is not violated, but again, the majority does not recognize the independence of the country. What then? People do not have the right to self-determination and all because of some handful of politicians?

[Kronos]

Recognition is necessary, for example, then, so that other states conduct business with you, such as trade, and military operations against the DPR were impossible with world recognition

[NKT]

And how is world recognition measured? By the number of states, their area or the number of people living there? Is there any order? You understand that “international” recognition does not correlate with international law.
It is ridiculous to hear from Western "democracies" about the non-recognition of the republics, since international law was violated.

[Insurgent]

Quote: NKT

Is recognition itself a legal necessity and how does it correlate with international law?

And fig knows ... Now, after the "Kosovo precedent", the so-called "international law" has been given up. Therefore, looking back at him is not respecting yourself ...

[avg]

Quote: Kronos

And who recognized the DPR except South Ossetia?

I admitted that all my relatives, friends and acquaintances, as well as their friends and acquaintances ... I hope to get to the government soon. (and better now than to the election)

[Kronos]

I meant the leadership of which countries?

[iouris]

Quote: Kronos

And who recognized the DPR except South Ossetia?

I admitted. What's next?

[gsev]

Quote: Kronos

And who recognized the DPR except South Ossetia?

The USSR, Mongolia, the DPRK and the PRC of the USA also did not recognize for a long time.

[DenZ]

Quote: Insurgent

Is it not clear that since the referendum on independence from Ukraine, DPR and LPR "de facto"

Nevertheless, the conflict actually began as a civil war, what you write about (about the referendum) was after Slavyansk.

[Insurgent]

Quote: DenZ

Nevertheless, the conflict actually began as a civil war, what you write about (about the referendum) was after Slavyansk.

The conflict started as punitive operation Kiev against the unarmed Donbass, and only then everything turned into a war.

And how much was that "civil war" from the moment the "ATO" was announced (on April 14, the text of the decree No. 405/2014 was posted on the website of the President of Ukraine) to the referendum on May 11?

[revnagan]

Quote: Insurgent

Is it not clear that since the referendum on independence from Ukraine, DPR and LPR "de facto"

It is not clear, because local referendums have no legal force in matters of the territorial structure of the state. Such issues are resolved at the level of a referendum of the entire state. Chechnya, how many referenda on "independence" have been held, and so what?

Quote: Insurgent

DO NOT ARE THE TERRITORY OF UKRAINE, and we, the holders of passports of the republics and the Russian Federation, are no longer its citizens

If residents of 1/3 of Lugansk and 1/3 of Donetsk regions, changing passports from Ukrainian to Russian, decided that the territory in which they live became Russian from this, then they are deeply mistaken. Next to them, (possibly on the same landing ), citizens live with TWO passports. Russian and Ukrainian. Just in case. Or, say, purely Ukrainian. And now, does Ukraine belong to the region of the Russian Federation where Russian passports were printed and issued? The territory of Ukraine is the territory of Ukraine, and the fact that there were Russian citizens then they did it at their own peril and risk. And if something bad happens on Russian territory with Russian citizens, then this is primarily the fault of the Russian Foreign Ministry and the Russian government, which did not prohibit their citizens from going to the conflict zone.

[bistrov.]

Quote: revnagan

that local referenda have no legal force

After February 21, 2014, such a state as "Ukraine" LEGALLY does not exist, because an armed, unconstitutional coup took place there and people were free to do anything, incl. change the territory of the so-called "Ukraine".
Why is it possible to separate in Kosovo, but not in Lugansk and Donetsk?

[Procyon lotor]

And why was it impossible to separate from Chechnya?

[revnagan]

Quote: bistrov.

After February 21, 2014, such a state as "Ukraine" LEGALLY does not exist, because an armed, unconstitutional coup took place there and people were free to do anything, incl. change the territory of the so-called "Ukraine".

What are you : What about "the best choice of the Ukrainian people"? But what about "our Ukrainian partners"? Or did you personally decide this for yourself? Did you agree with your president? Whom YOU chose. He does not think so. And the UN does not think so. And the world community. So

Quote: bistrov.

there is no such state as "Ukraine" LEGALLY

this is your private, personal, and absolutely incorrect and nobody's interesting opinion.

[gsev]

Quote: revnagan

The territory of Ukraine is the territory of Ukraine

At one time, George Washington was also the leader of illegal separatist groups. Now he is honored and respected in the former metropolis as an outstanding politician and commander who fought for the democratic reconstruction of the world. In eastern Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine are still considered by many to be punishers, sadists and bandits ready to kill their own mother for dollars.

[Looking for]

It is CIVIL as if it was not denied the Kiev government and you are with them.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Do you want to say the trophies are not divided?

The fact of the matter is that the representatives of the national police, "got off with a general phrase:" The circumstances are being clarified. " Not a word about the "death of a hero." And in the photo, judging by the appearance, a typical "brother" from the 90s.

[KCA]

It is necessary for journalists to talk to the relatives of the "militiamen killed by shelling", official representatives only talk about combat losses, but the relatives receive notifications where it is written that he was poisoned with methanol, died in a drunken fight, etc., someone would want relatives insurance for pay combat losses?

[Hto tama]

Quote: KCA

It is necessary for journalists to talk to the relatives of the "militiamen killed by shelling", official representatives only talk about combat losses, but the relatives receive notifications where it is written that he was poisoned with methanol, died in a drunken fight, etc., someone would want relatives insurance for pay combat losses?

Not a fact! It's the same gold mine how much you can steal without paying extra to relatives so u can be attributed to war

[KCA]

It’s just not paying extra to relatives that they need insurance, and relatives should be informed about the negligence of the deceased

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Hto tama

This is a gold mine, how much can be stolen without paying extra to relatives, so that a mustache can be attributed to war

Children from the outskirts do not need to be taught that; they themselves will teach whom they want. It’s time to open courses for the gay men and children of Uncle Sam.

[4ekist]

Rather, the reason for the departure to another world is diabetes and obesity.

[Graz]

what a pig on a photo

[Valery Valery]

Gubanov was blown up by his own grenade. Perhaps I caught the "squirrel", but it turned out to be more agile. This is normal for the APU.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Valery Valery

Gubanov was blown up on his own grenade.

Well, here's the story about the chimpanzee again.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Valery Valery

Gubanov was blown up by his own grenade. Perhaps I caught the "squirrel", but it turned out to be more agile. This is normal for the APU.

И
More specific information from dill sources:

According to the statement of Avakov's department https://www.facebook.com/UA.National.Police/photos/a.1768074770113996/2574004482854350/?type=3&theater, he died of shrapnel wounds "while performing a mission." Also in this episode there were 3 more 300s.
Gubanov and his group were blown up on an anti-personnel mine near Trekhizbenka, after which he died from shrapnel wounds in the hospital.

I suppose that the mine could be from the MES or OZM series ...

[Reserve buildbat]

Another replenishment of dung hundreds. Good luck

[Mountain shooter]

Again, "non-combat losses" will try to push them to the militia ... Did you have fun with a grenade? After "a liter of drunk"?
And now frantically compose a legend? I believe in it. In a successful hit of the militia - not really. They mainly return fire ... and what to do to the battalion commander at the firing position?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, "non-combat losses" will try to push them to the militia ... Did you have fun with a grenade? After "a liter of drunk"?

Let them all get drunk and die!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Again, "non-combat losses" will try to push them to the militia ... Did you have fun with a grenade?

I do not understand that they have no other toys except a grenade?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: tihonmarine

I do not understand that they have no other toys except a grenade?

Well, there is also a grenade from the grenade. But she has a fuse with an inertial fuse. But the offensive is just right. The fragments are weak and fly not far away. All other "toys" are much more powerful, and there would be more deaths ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, there’s still a grenade from a grenade launcher.

This one won’t work, for a toy it’s a hefty difficult one for garnets.

[sharp-lad]

Yes, a perky roulette called "Hammer"!

[Nikolaevich I]

Judging by the name and surname, it seems to be Russian! Well ... is it the fate of the Russians ... to die for the "Waltzmans", "Mendels", "Epsteins"?

[Egoza]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Judging by the name-surname, it seems to be Russian!

Come on, you! We And Poroshenko, and Tymoshenko judging by the surname well, such Ukrainians !!!!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

We have both Poroshenko and Tymoshenko judging by the surname well, such Ukrainians !!

Yes, you have there by the last name for sure "you can't tell whether he is good or bad ..."

[Hey]

Judging by the name and surname, it seems to be Russian! Well ... is it the fate of the Russians ... to die for the "Waltzmans", "Mendels", "Epsteins"?

And this happened as soon as they abandoned their Gods and recognized their religion.

[Maks winter]

I know that they are throwing minuses, but anyway, did you think about, but what if we did not accept Christianity? What would happen to Russia? ...

[Hey]

if we had not accepted Christianity ?, what would happen to Russia? ...

As in the old days, shields would be nailed to the gates of different cities. And the lack of Christianity did not stop us from doing this. Always ask yourself and others the question of who Jesus Christ came to and why, and what the Russians have to do with it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Maks Winter

I know that they are throwing minuses, but anyway, did you think about what if we did not accept Christianity? What would happen to Russia ?.

I thought about it. If we had not accepted Christianity, we would have accepted Islam.

[Alex Nevs]

They jump, and the waltzman has the money. And they will not get it, because "they are not suckers."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex Nevs

They jump, and then the money is at the valtsman.

And where on earth is there a place where the money is not from the "waltzman"?

[Talgarets]

In particular, two armored vehicles and one air defense system are located in the Broad Beam, three air defense systems - in Konstantinovka, two air defense systems - in Kalinovo

Are they going to reflect the air raids there?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Talgarets

Are they going to reflect the air raids there?

So they are fighting with "Russia" !!! For 6 years everyone has been fighting, fighting. The most powerful army in Europe.
And how to fight with Russia without old air defense systems? She has airplanes! Well, how does it strike from the air?
What if the "curators" notice that there is no air defense in the positions? They will immediately think that ukrovermacht DOES NOT BELIEVE in any war with Russia.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Talgarets

Are they going to reflect the air raids there?

The next Boeing is awaiting.

[sharp-lad]

Also thought about it, but so dumb already dumb!

[Borz]

Combat is a loss or non-combat, what's the difference? The main thing is minus another ukrobandit

[aszzz888]

When journalists asked representatives of the National Police of Ukraine to clarify under what specific circumstances the battalion commander was killed, no explanation was given. They got off with the general phrase: "Circumstances are being clarified."

In a drunken showdown. (minus 1 !!!!!)

[prior]

Everything is old, like the world under the moon.
Waltzmanns, Kolomoisky, Zelensky, Trumps, Biden fight for the loot,
Gubanov, Panasenki, Ivanov perish .....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: prior

Waltzmanns, Kolomoisky, Zelensky, Trumps, Biden fight for the loot,
Gubanovs, Panasenks, Ivanovs perish ...

But with the former it’s clear, for the loot, but with the latter it’s not quite. I do not think that the Gubanovs and Bandera dying just like that.

[alex aircraft]

The paradox is that the greatest losses are in percentage terms in Dnipropetrovsk oblast. Russian Bandera turned out to be more stubborn than zapadenskaya evil spirits, which fled to earn money in geyropu.nu and this cheroy land glassy.

[Siberian]

For everything in this life you have to pay, for your stupidity, betrayal (of your homeland, your land, ancestors, beliefs) - too. Sometimes the fee is high and without change, even a trifle. Until 70% of the population understands this, it will only get worse and worse, you will see that convinced ukropatriots will fight duels for men, the ratio outweighs it.

[Kronos]

This pathetics in reality is only a choice and its consequences

[Incompetent]

These are all our people who could bring benefits, but now they perished because the United States has no warriors, their people do not die

[Terenin]

Quote: Incompetent

These are all our people who could bring benefits, but now they perished because the United States has no warriors, their people do not die

It will not always be like this

[Fedorov]

I had a moment, on a construction site I worked part time with one general of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Two jeeps in the garage plus a son and a personal one. There was not enough money for salaries and material. I’ll bring it in a day - you just need to drive it into the ATO zone. He brought it, but the amount is not small - 50 tys. Baku. The question is where did he get them.
I would shoot such without a twinge of conscience. Only on the spot I can’t, and so in the SBU under control. And I can’t leave Mother to leave for Homeland to Siberia. I won’t pull the money with me to take with me.

[Liss Nikita]

Great news!

[Prisoner]

Not every shard will fly past such a hog, not every bullet will whistle. It was necessary to eat less, and to run more.

[Threaded screw]

In particular, two armored vehicles and one air defense system are located in the Broad Beam, three air defense systems - in Konstantinovka, two air defense systems - in Kalinovo.

Where so many boenges to collect?

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

In any war, in any military operations there is a principle - if you shoot, then they shoot at you. It would seem that everything is simple and clear to anyone, but not to the Ukrainian side. Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine regularly fire at the positions of the LPR and the DPR, and plant cannons at towns and villages behind the front line. But as soon as the answer comes, they begin to be very offended. Like, how is it that we have the right to shoot, but we can’t shoot at us.

[Radius]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Insurgent

the struggle (not war!) with the gangster and nationalist underground, and the fascist shortcomings.

This is clear. So it is from our side, and here is how they look at it from their side.

Yes, do not care how they look at it. It has long been necessary to get used to the fact that our opinion is a priority. Other opinions are not considered.

[Procyon lotor]

That is why humanity is fighting that there are people who believe that there is only one correct opinion.

[Dzafdet]

Let the new holes in the cemetery dig. Everything is numb to them. And the equipment between the houses is hidden, like the Nazis in the war ....

[Nosferatu]

The land is glassy, ​​fascist.

[mikstepanenko]

He did not live to see the trial.

[Lord of the Sith]

Minus one famous rubber item of intimate purpose))

By the way, there is a training ground in Trekhizbenka, I was there before the war. Most likely a non-combat loss, another "hammer" tore or something like that. So don't fucking shove it on the People's Militia)

[Larisa Byvsheva_3]

Fuck not to get up, what a pity!